1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,275 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The 2 00:00:22,355 --> 00:00:25,795 Speaker 1: seven justices of the Colorado Supreme Court have given no 3 00:00:25,875 --> 00:00:29,755 Speaker 1: indication how they will rule on Trump's disqualification under the 4 00:00:29,755 --> 00:00:32,675 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment, and they have given no indication when they 5 00:00:32,715 --> 00:00:36,075 Speaker 1: will rule. But here is a bigger issue. They have 6 00:00:36,515 --> 00:00:43,355 Speaker 1: no right to rule. The fourteenth Amendment clearly, unquestionably, inarguably, 7 00:00:43,515 --> 00:00:48,595 Speaker 1: and eternally states that an insurrectionist cannot serve in an 8 00:00:48,635 --> 00:00:52,795 Speaker 1: elected federal or state office, or a lot of other offices. 9 00:00:53,075 --> 00:00:56,755 Speaker 1: And it does not allow Chief Justice vote Right or 10 00:00:56,955 --> 00:01:00,915 Speaker 1: Justice Birkencotter, or Justice Gabriel or Justice Hard or Justice 11 00:01:00,915 --> 00:01:04,155 Speaker 1: Hood or Justice Marquez or Justice Samour, or for that matter, 12 00:01:04,395 --> 00:01:07,835 Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts or Justice Soda mayor or anybody else 13 00:01:07,875 --> 00:01:11,995 Speaker 1: on that court to overrule the Constitution. Because the Fourteenth 14 00:01:12,035 --> 00:01:17,955 Speaker 1: Amendment already has a means by which disqualified traders may appeal. 15 00:01:18,395 --> 00:01:22,955 Speaker 1: The drafters of the Fourteenth Amendment built that remedy in 16 00:01:23,475 --> 00:01:28,475 Speaker 1: and they have already designated two bodies to overrule disqualification 17 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:33,035 Speaker 1: under special circumstances. And those bodies are the United States 18 00:01:33,035 --> 00:01:36,195 Speaker 1: House of Representatives and the United States Senate. And if 19 00:01:36,235 --> 00:01:39,235 Speaker 1: they each vote by two thirds to let Trump back 20 00:01:39,315 --> 00:01:42,115 Speaker 1: on the ballot. He is back on the ballot, that 21 00:01:42,395 --> 00:01:46,595 Speaker 1: is for all practical purposes in the Constitution. And if 22 00:01:46,635 --> 00:01:49,675 Speaker 1: they don't vote by two thirds, he's not on the ballot, 23 00:01:49,835 --> 00:01:53,555 Speaker 1: and that is also for all practical purposes in the Constitution. 24 00:01:54,795 --> 00:02:00,115 Speaker 1: The entirety of the Trump and Fascist Party arguments against 25 00:02:00,275 --> 00:02:07,595 Speaker 1: disqualification under the fourteenth Amendment are two fictions unsupported by 26 00:02:07,595 --> 00:02:10,435 Speaker 1: the Constitution, or by the Amendment, or by the history 27 00:02:10,435 --> 00:02:12,275 Speaker 1: of this country, or by the history of the men 28 00:02:12,395 --> 00:02:16,035 Speaker 1: who wrote the goddamn fourteenth Amendment as they were still 29 00:02:16,275 --> 00:02:20,275 Speaker 1: wiping up the blood from the floor of this country 30 00:02:20,355 --> 00:02:24,155 Speaker 1: after the First Civil War. The fictions are that this 31 00:02:24,235 --> 00:02:28,115 Speaker 1: has to go through the courts. It does not, It 32 00:02:28,195 --> 00:02:31,915 Speaker 1: has to go through the Congress. But the other one, 33 00:02:31,955 --> 00:02:36,475 Speaker 1: even before that, the legal whore representing Trump in front 34 00:02:36,475 --> 00:02:40,795 Speaker 1: of the Colorado State Supreme Court, this gas bag, Scott Gessler, 35 00:02:41,115 --> 00:02:44,795 Speaker 1: the ex Colorado Secretary of State who lost that job 36 00:02:45,075 --> 00:02:49,715 Speaker 1: after he was found guilty of ethics violations. Gessler has 37 00:02:49,875 --> 00:02:54,315 Speaker 1: manufactured out of thin air this hallucination that the president 38 00:02:54,755 --> 00:02:59,275 Speaker 1: was not a mere officer of the United States like 39 00:02:59,395 --> 00:03:03,155 Speaker 1: senators or congressmen or state office holders. Then that the 40 00:03:03,195 --> 00:03:07,555 Speaker 1: authors of the fourteenth mend phrase the disqualification clause in 41 00:03:07,635 --> 00:03:13,115 Speaker 1: such a way as to clearly and deliberately exclude would 42 00:03:13,155 --> 00:03:17,115 Speaker 1: be presidents because they were more important and their selection 43 00:03:17,715 --> 00:03:26,195 Speaker 1: represented the true will of the American people. Bullshit. When 44 00:03:26,195 --> 00:03:30,315 Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, the President of the United 45 00:03:30,395 --> 00:03:35,875 Speaker 1: States was a lesser figure than the average senator or 46 00:03:35,915 --> 00:03:41,115 Speaker 1: the average congressman. The Fourteenth Amendment was ratified on July ninth, 47 00:03:41,195 --> 00:03:44,595 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty eight, and at that point the President of 48 00:03:44,595 --> 00:03:48,355 Speaker 1: the United States was Andrew Johnson, and the Senate had 49 00:03:48,515 --> 00:03:53,555 Speaker 1: just spent eighteen months trying to neoter Andrew Johnson, and 50 00:03:53,635 --> 00:03:56,955 Speaker 1: they took away his right to readmit the Southern States, 51 00:03:57,275 --> 00:04:00,355 Speaker 1: and they passed legislation denying him the right to fire 52 00:04:00,475 --> 00:04:04,395 Speaker 1: cabinet members, specifically Secretary of War Edwin Stanton, And when 53 00:04:04,435 --> 00:04:09,435 Speaker 1: he to do it anyway, the House passed eleven articles 54 00:04:09,555 --> 00:04:14,195 Speaker 1: of impeachment against Andrew Johnson, and the Senate acquitted him 55 00:04:14,235 --> 00:04:17,715 Speaker 1: on May sixteenth, eighteen sixty eight, and by only one vote, 56 00:04:17,755 --> 00:04:21,675 Speaker 1: and that senator and others had been bribed to vote 57 00:04:21,835 --> 00:04:27,275 Speaker 1: to acquit the president. They wrote the Fourteenth Amendment over 58 00:04:27,595 --> 00:04:32,115 Speaker 1: the objections of President Andrew Johnson, and the clause that 59 00:04:32,235 --> 00:04:38,795 Speaker 1: disqualified all insurrectionists for all time, but gave Congress the 60 00:04:38,875 --> 00:04:41,075 Speaker 1: right to vote to overrule that by a two thirds 61 00:04:41,155 --> 00:04:44,955 Speaker 1: vote was written that way because they wanted to emphasize 62 00:04:44,955 --> 00:04:47,955 Speaker 1: that it was Congress that would make that choice and 63 00:04:48,035 --> 00:04:55,475 Speaker 1: not the president, and especially not that president. We forget, 64 00:04:56,275 --> 00:05:00,435 Speaker 1: but skipping Lincoln, the preceding nine presidents of the United 65 00:05:00,475 --> 00:05:04,355 Speaker 1: States had been going backwards from the day the fourteenth 66 00:05:04,435 --> 00:05:12,915 Speaker 1: mend was passed. Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, Millard Fillmore, 67 00:05:13,555 --> 00:05:19,995 Speaker 1: Zachary Taylor, James K. Polk, John Tyler, William Henry Harrison, 68 00:05:20,155 --> 00:05:24,875 Speaker 1: and Martin Van Buren, and not one of them had 69 00:05:24,915 --> 00:05:29,955 Speaker 1: been re elected. We changed presidents ten times in thirty years, 70 00:05:29,995 --> 00:05:34,635 Speaker 1: and only Lincoln got a second chance. The presidency was 71 00:05:34,675 --> 00:05:38,235 Speaker 1: not imperial, and it was not more important, and it 72 00:05:38,315 --> 00:05:44,435 Speaker 1: was not exalted. But it's more than just that. The 73 00:05:44,555 --> 00:05:49,675 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment, the one disqualifying insurrectionists from office in this 74 00:05:49,835 --> 00:05:56,155 Speaker 1: country forever, was principally conceived and written by two committees, 75 00:05:56,195 --> 00:05:59,395 Speaker 1: one of the House, one in the Senate on Reconstruction, 76 00:06:00,595 --> 00:06:05,475 Speaker 1: the one in the Senate included Thaddeus Stevens, who wanted 77 00:06:05,475 --> 00:06:08,315 Speaker 1: to take all the money from all the insurrectionists in 78 00:06:08,395 --> 00:06:12,315 Speaker 1: the South and give it to the freed slaves. And 79 00:06:12,955 --> 00:06:17,515 Speaker 1: it contained Senator Roscoe Conkling, so respected as a lawyer, 80 00:06:17,635 --> 00:06:21,555 Speaker 1: as a jurist, as a constitutional scholar, that two presidents 81 00:06:21,635 --> 00:06:23,955 Speaker 1: asked him to serve on the Supreme Court, and he 82 00:06:24,075 --> 00:06:29,755 Speaker 1: said no, thanks. But it was written principally by Congressman 83 00:06:30,075 --> 00:06:35,595 Speaker 1: John Bingham of Ohio. John Bingham was a radical Republican 84 00:06:35,955 --> 00:06:38,275 Speaker 1: who not only was one of the House Managers for 85 00:06:38,355 --> 00:06:42,635 Speaker 1: the impeachment of President Johnson, but earlier, John Bingham had 86 00:06:42,675 --> 00:06:46,995 Speaker 1: been the assistant judge Advocate general during the trial of 87 00:06:47,035 --> 00:06:51,235 Speaker 1: the accomplices of the man who murdered Abraham Lincoln, John 88 00:06:51,435 --> 00:06:58,395 Speaker 1: Wilkes Booth. And if John Bingham's attitude towards insurrectionists was 89 00:06:58,475 --> 00:07:01,875 Speaker 1: not clear enough from what is written in the fourteenth 90 00:07:01,915 --> 00:07:08,035 Speaker 1: Amendment and what he did completely justifiably slow roasting President 91 00:07:08,075 --> 00:07:13,115 Speaker 1: Andrew Johnson. Just a reminder about the trial of the conspirators. 92 00:07:13,155 --> 00:07:18,155 Speaker 1: The eight co conspirators charged in the Lincoln assassination that 93 00:07:18,275 --> 00:07:22,555 Speaker 1: the co author of the Fourteenth Amendment prosecuted included missus 94 00:07:22,715 --> 00:07:28,275 Speaker 1: Mary Surrat, who ran the boarding house where the conspirators met, 95 00:07:29,035 --> 00:07:33,755 Speaker 1: and it included Spangler, the stage hand at Ford's Theater, 96 00:07:33,875 --> 00:07:38,675 Speaker 1: who did nothing more than hold Booth's horse while Booth 97 00:07:38,715 --> 00:07:42,915 Speaker 1: went in and murdered the president. They hanged half of 98 00:07:42,955 --> 00:07:46,395 Speaker 1: the defendants, including the woman who ran the boarding house. 99 00:07:47,275 --> 00:07:50,315 Speaker 1: Three of the other four defendants were given life sentences. 100 00:07:50,475 --> 00:07:55,315 Speaker 1: The guy who held the horse got six years at 101 00:07:55,355 --> 00:08:00,315 Speaker 1: hard labor. They did make a concession to Missus Surratt 102 00:08:01,275 --> 00:08:03,995 Speaker 1: while they were preparing to hang her and the others, 103 00:08:04,355 --> 00:08:09,195 Speaker 1: they let her sit in a chair. The authors of 104 00:08:09,235 --> 00:08:17,075 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment were not effing around about insurrectionists. So 105 00:08:17,275 --> 00:08:23,315 Speaker 1: the idea that this legal whore taking money from Trump 106 00:08:23,875 --> 00:08:26,755 Speaker 1: can walk into the Colorado Supreme Court and say with 107 00:08:26,835 --> 00:08:30,715 Speaker 1: a straight face that the intent of the fourteenth Amendment 108 00:08:31,195 --> 00:08:35,435 Speaker 1: was to disqualify insurrectionist, but not a president. You can't 109 00:08:35,475 --> 00:08:38,195 Speaker 1: disqualify a president. A president is too big a deal, 110 00:08:39,355 --> 00:08:43,235 Speaker 1: and that the justice could sit there without finding him 111 00:08:43,235 --> 00:08:51,435 Speaker 1: in contempt of American history. It's a pathetic joke. Senator 112 00:08:51,475 --> 00:08:57,115 Speaker 1: Stevens and especially Congressman Yeah Hang Missus Surrat to Bingham 113 00:08:57,795 --> 00:09:02,315 Speaker 1: were not excluding presidents from their Amendment to the Constitution. 114 00:09:03,115 --> 00:09:07,675 Speaker 1: They were not making sure that Jefferson Davis or Alexander Stevens, 115 00:09:07,755 --> 00:09:11,035 Speaker 1: or Nathan Bedford Forrest or Robert E. Lee or Donald 116 00:09:11,075 --> 00:09:13,635 Speaker 1: Trump could still run for president after they tried to 117 00:09:13,675 --> 00:09:18,235 Speaker 1: overthrow the goddamned government. It's not just nonsense. It is 118 00:09:18,355 --> 00:09:21,715 Speaker 1: literally an insult to every American who died in the 119 00:09:21,755 --> 00:09:25,235 Speaker 1: Civil War defending the Union, and to the sanctity of 120 00:09:25,275 --> 00:09:29,435 Speaker 1: the elections. It is an insult to Lincoln. It is 121 00:09:29,515 --> 00:09:35,475 Speaker 1: an insult to this country. And so is this nonsensical 122 00:09:35,515 --> 00:09:39,515 Speaker 1: idea that the state courts have to rule on whether 123 00:09:39,595 --> 00:09:43,995 Speaker 1: or not Trump or any other insurrectionist, scumbag and craze 124 00:09:44,075 --> 00:09:48,195 Speaker 1: violent revolutionary should be on the ballot for anything from 125 00:09:48,235 --> 00:09:54,395 Speaker 1: president to dog catcher. Thaddeus Stevens and John Bingham's fourteenth 126 00:09:54,475 --> 00:10:03,875 Speaker 1: Amendment is clearly self executing. It is clearly automatic. It 127 00:10:03,955 --> 00:10:09,075 Speaker 1: is the def position. If it were not self executing, 128 00:10:09,195 --> 00:10:12,795 Speaker 1: why would they have attached the actual key words to 129 00:10:12,955 --> 00:10:17,035 Speaker 1: the third clause, the disqualification clause. Why would they have 130 00:10:17,075 --> 00:10:21,835 Speaker 1: attached the final fourteen words of the damn thing? Congress 131 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:25,395 Speaker 1: may buy a vote of two thirds of each House 132 00:10:25,795 --> 00:10:32,475 Speaker 1: remove such disqualification If the Fourteenth Amendment was not automatic, 133 00:10:32,715 --> 00:10:35,075 Speaker 1: why would you need a PostScript permitting the House and 134 00:10:35,115 --> 00:10:39,475 Speaker 1: the Senate to override it under special circumstances. If everybody 135 00:10:39,595 --> 00:10:44,235 Speaker 1: seemingly disqualified under it for trying to overthrow our government 136 00:10:44,715 --> 00:10:48,875 Speaker 1: was to be judged separately and individually based on which 137 00:10:48,995 --> 00:10:52,275 Speaker 1: office he was running for and how menacingly he tried 138 00:10:52,315 --> 00:10:54,315 Speaker 1: to overthrow the government. If it was up to a 139 00:10:54,435 --> 00:10:58,435 Speaker 1: judge or a court or the Supreme Court, you wouldn't 140 00:10:58,475 --> 00:11:01,755 Speaker 1: need a Senate and House override, and that would not 141 00:11:01,875 --> 00:11:06,875 Speaker 1: be written into the Amendment. Simply put, the States do 142 00:11:07,115 --> 00:11:10,795 Speaker 1: not have the right to put Donald Trump or any 143 00:11:10,835 --> 00:11:14,835 Speaker 1: of the other January sixth insurrectionists and insurrectionist plotters on 144 00:11:15,035 --> 00:11:20,675 Speaker 1: their ballot. The Constitution is explicit. There is already a 145 00:11:20,715 --> 00:11:23,435 Speaker 1: mechanism by which Trump could be put on the ballot. 146 00:11:23,635 --> 00:11:26,835 Speaker 1: And there is only one mechanism and only one action 147 00:11:26,955 --> 00:11:29,475 Speaker 1: by only one group by which Trump can override the 148 00:11:29,515 --> 00:11:32,195 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment to be put on the ballot. And it 149 00:11:32,235 --> 00:11:35,995 Speaker 1: is exactly what Thatdeus Stevens and the others and John 150 00:11:36,035 --> 00:11:40,915 Speaker 1: Bingham wrote in eighteen sixty six. Congress may by a 151 00:11:40,995 --> 00:11:46,915 Speaker 1: vote of two thirds in each House the Colorado Supreme 152 00:11:47,035 --> 00:11:53,915 Speaker 1: Court hearing is regardless of the outcome a farce, there 153 00:11:54,075 --> 00:12:00,475 Speaker 1: is due process available, even to Trump. It is right 154 00:12:00,555 --> 00:12:06,235 Speaker 1: there in the Constitution. You know the Constitution, the thing 155 00:12:06,355 --> 00:12:13,915 Speaker 1: Trump has vowed and promised to terminate. He is ineligible. 156 00:12:14,875 --> 00:12:18,475 Speaker 1: I suspect if Thaddeus Stevens and John Bingham came back 157 00:12:18,515 --> 00:12:21,955 Speaker 1: to life today and we're briefed on this, their response 158 00:12:21,955 --> 00:12:28,595 Speaker 1: would be to chase Trump with their canes. Oh and 159 00:12:28,715 --> 00:12:32,595 Speaker 1: if this farce were not stupid enough, if it were 160 00:12:32,635 --> 00:12:38,235 Speaker 1: not unconstitutional enough, this disgraced ex State Secretary of State, 161 00:12:38,635 --> 00:12:42,155 Speaker 1: Trump's stooge Gessler, who seems to have gotten his law 162 00:12:42,195 --> 00:12:45,515 Speaker 1: degree as a prize in a box of cracker jacks, 163 00:12:46,435 --> 00:12:48,795 Speaker 1: is also an idiot. 164 00:12:49,075 --> 00:12:52,435 Speaker 2: What if we narrat it to say, prevent the peaceful 165 00:12:52,475 --> 00:12:52,995 Speaker 2: transfer of. 166 00:12:53,075 --> 00:12:56,955 Speaker 3: Power of the United States government, would that be an insurrection. 167 00:12:57,715 --> 00:13:01,315 Speaker 2: To prevent the peaceful transfer? I don't think so, and 168 00:13:01,355 --> 00:13:02,515 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're honor. 169 00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:02,955 Speaker 1: Look. 170 00:13:03,075 --> 00:13:05,875 Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at historically and the context 171 00:13:05,875 --> 00:13:08,435 Speaker 2: of how insurrection was used, I mean, it has to 172 00:13:08,435 --> 00:13:11,035 Speaker 2: be for a substantial duration, not three hours. 173 00:13:11,395 --> 00:13:17,675 Speaker 1: An insurrection has to last more than three hours. Gotcha, 174 00:13:17,955 --> 00:13:21,635 Speaker 1: if your insurrection lasts more than three hours, see your 175 00:13:21,675 --> 00:13:27,195 Speaker 1: doctor immediately, because you, mister Gessler, appropriately enough, are a dick. 176 00:13:32,115 --> 00:13:38,355 Speaker 1: My rage about the fourteenth Amendment. Notwithstanding, sometimes the unimportant 177 00:13:38,395 --> 00:13:42,715 Speaker 1: things make the most important impact. I didn't even flinch 178 00:13:43,115 --> 00:13:45,755 Speaker 1: when Hannity tried to get the would be dictator Trump 179 00:13:46,355 --> 00:13:49,355 Speaker 1: to take advantage of a chance to lie and say 180 00:13:49,355 --> 00:13:53,275 Speaker 1: he would not be a dictator. But Trump was too 181 00:13:53,315 --> 00:13:57,275 Speaker 1: stupid to take it. But a whole lot of other 182 00:13:57,315 --> 00:14:02,235 Speaker 1: people flinched big time. The symbolism of this enemy of 183 00:14:02,235 --> 00:14:06,435 Speaker 1: the United States of America making a big joke about 184 00:14:06,435 --> 00:14:09,475 Speaker 1: how he'd only be a dictator from the instant he 185 00:14:09,555 --> 00:14:13,395 Speaker 1: regained power, but he'd stop after one day. That may 186 00:14:13,435 --> 00:14:14,915 Speaker 1: have actually cut through the noise. 187 00:14:15,315 --> 00:14:19,515 Speaker 3: Under no circumstances. You are promising America tonight you would 188 00:14:19,595 --> 00:14:24,235 Speaker 3: never abuse power as retribution against anybody. 189 00:14:23,755 --> 00:14:27,395 Speaker 4: Except the day one, except he's gone to for except 190 00:14:27,395 --> 00:14:27,835 Speaker 4: the day one. 191 00:14:27,955 --> 00:14:29,395 Speaker 1: He says you're not going to be a dictator. 192 00:14:29,875 --> 00:14:32,035 Speaker 4: I said, no, no, no other than day one. 193 00:14:32,275 --> 00:14:35,955 Speaker 1: Once again, they have people paid to do this. But there, 194 00:14:36,355 --> 00:14:41,315 Speaker 1: President Biden, my old friend is your reelection campaign commercial. 195 00:14:42,275 --> 00:14:45,395 Speaker 1: There are millions of people in America who not only 196 00:14:45,435 --> 00:14:49,675 Speaker 1: don't know who the president is. They don't know who 197 00:14:49,715 --> 00:14:53,275 Speaker 1: the president was, and they don't know who the next 198 00:14:53,315 --> 00:14:58,795 Speaker 1: president might be. They are the ones who need to 199 00:14:58,995 --> 00:15:05,555 Speaker 1: hear him saying that because refusing to even lie and 200 00:15:05,675 --> 00:15:09,835 Speaker 1: to sure your most loyal anti democracy propagandist that you 201 00:15:09,995 --> 00:15:12,595 Speaker 1: aren't going to be a dictator and saying yeah, I am, 202 00:15:12,715 --> 00:15:17,555 Speaker 1: but just for a day, that can cut through. Take 203 00:15:17,595 --> 00:15:22,115 Speaker 1: the tape, Write one strong opening line like Donald Trump 204 00:15:22,155 --> 00:15:25,915 Speaker 1: is running for dictator of America, and get some voiceover 205 00:15:25,995 --> 00:15:29,195 Speaker 1: guy to kill the read. Then you run the clip. 206 00:15:29,195 --> 00:15:31,435 Speaker 1: Then you get the president to say I'm Joe Biden 207 00:15:31,475 --> 00:15:35,555 Speaker 1: and I approved this message, and you're done. It'll make 208 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:40,155 Speaker 1: Lyndon Johnson's daisy commercial look like a public service announcement 209 00:15:40,235 --> 00:15:46,795 Speaker 1: on c SPAN. Wait, you know that Lyndon Johnson daisy 210 00:15:46,835 --> 00:15:54,755 Speaker 1: commercial right after Barry Goldwater mused about using nuclear weapons. 211 00:15:55,275 --> 00:16:00,035 Speaker 1: The daisy commercial ran once middle of the NBC Monday 212 00:16:00,115 --> 00:16:04,595 Speaker 1: Night Movie on September seventh, nineteen sixty four. Once this 213 00:16:04,875 --> 00:16:06,315 Speaker 1: ran once. 214 00:16:11,395 --> 00:16:24,235 Speaker 5: Play far five seven, six six eight nine. 215 00:16:27,795 --> 00:16:34,595 Speaker 6: Nine five four three. 216 00:16:35,555 --> 00:16:38,595 Speaker 1: Why there. 217 00:16:40,515 --> 00:16:44,795 Speaker 7: These are the stakes to make a world in which 218 00:16:44,995 --> 00:16:48,835 Speaker 7: all of God's children can live. Are to go into 219 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:55,115 Speaker 7: the dark. We must either love each other, or we 220 00:16:55,195 --> 00:16:55,835 Speaker 7: must die. 221 00:16:56,395 --> 00:17:00,235 Speaker 1: Vote for President Johnson on November third. The stakes are 222 00:17:00,275 --> 00:17:05,155 Speaker 1: too high for you to stay home. Once were and once, 223 00:17:06,755 --> 00:17:09,035 Speaker 1: Let's try it again. Let's update it, shall we? 224 00:17:10,515 --> 00:17:10,795 Speaker 5: Six? 225 00:17:13,155 --> 00:17:17,755 Speaker 7: No? 226 00:17:21,155 --> 00:17:26,395 Speaker 6: Five? Four three wore? 227 00:17:30,075 --> 00:17:31,595 Speaker 7: These are the stakes? 228 00:17:31,795 --> 00:17:36,395 Speaker 3: Who would never abuse power as retribution against anybody? 229 00:17:36,475 --> 00:17:39,355 Speaker 4: Except the day one? Except the work he's going to 230 00:17:39,395 --> 00:17:41,355 Speaker 4: christ except the day one. He says, You're not going 231 00:17:41,395 --> 00:17:42,075 Speaker 4: to be a dictator? 232 00:17:42,075 --> 00:17:42,275 Speaker 1: Are you? 233 00:17:42,515 --> 00:17:44,715 Speaker 4: I said no, No, no other than day one. 234 00:17:45,115 --> 00:17:50,235 Speaker 7: We must either love each other or we must die. 235 00:17:50,635 --> 00:17:56,035 Speaker 1: Vote for President Biden on November fifth. The stakes are 236 00:17:56,075 --> 00:18:07,795 Speaker 1: too high for you to stay home. Any questions. Yeah, 237 00:18:07,795 --> 00:18:10,035 Speaker 1: by the way, I'll do the read for that one 238 00:18:10,395 --> 00:18:16,355 Speaker 1: for free. A couple of more headlines. All of the 239 00:18:16,355 --> 00:18:20,115 Speaker 1: Trump fake electors in Wisconsin flipped yesterday. They had been 240 00:18:20,195 --> 00:18:23,675 Speaker 1: sued civilly, and as part of the settlement they promised 241 00:18:23,715 --> 00:18:27,555 Speaker 1: never to do it again and to cooperate with the 242 00:18:27,555 --> 00:18:32,475 Speaker 1: federal prosecutors. Meanwhile, the six fake electors in Nevada were 243 00:18:32,475 --> 00:18:35,355 Speaker 1: all indicted by that state. Among them is the state 244 00:18:35,515 --> 00:18:39,115 Speaker 1: National Republican Committee man Jim Degraff and red and Nevada 245 00:18:39,235 --> 00:18:42,955 Speaker 1: GOP chair Michael McDonald, who did not have a three 246 00:18:42,995 --> 00:18:44,675 Speaker 1: way with the co founder of Moms or a Liberty, 247 00:18:44,675 --> 00:18:48,795 Speaker 1: Bridget Zegler, and the Florida GOP chair Christian Zealer, speaking 248 00:18:48,795 --> 00:18:52,195 Speaker 1: of if you're thinking of Nicky Haley as some kind 249 00:18:52,235 --> 00:18:56,875 Speaker 1: of viable option last night at debate number I don't know, 250 00:18:57,195 --> 00:19:00,355 Speaker 1: As the old SNL joke goes, welcome to the fourth 251 00:19:00,435 --> 00:19:04,675 Speaker 1: or fifth Republican debate Nicky Haley last night tis Tis 252 00:19:04,955 --> 00:19:08,875 Speaker 1: DeSantis by saying his don't say gay bill did not 253 00:19:09,075 --> 00:19:13,115 Speaker 1: go far enough. Well, obviously it did not go far 254 00:19:13,235 --> 00:19:17,115 Speaker 1: enough for mister missus Ziegler, did it. Kevin McCarthy is 255 00:19:17,155 --> 00:19:21,395 Speaker 1: going to quit Congress. So now, if a Democrat wins 256 00:19:21,435 --> 00:19:25,795 Speaker 1: the vacant George Santo's seat, almost to certainty, the GOP 257 00:19:25,995 --> 00:19:28,515 Speaker 1: margin in the House will be down to two votes, 258 00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:31,955 Speaker 1: the margin becoming reduced to two hundred and twenty to 259 00:19:31,955 --> 00:19:34,875 Speaker 1: two hundred and fourteen. Well, how in the hell is 260 00:19:34,875 --> 00:19:41,035 Speaker 1: a margin of six just two votes? New math? Because 261 00:19:41,075 --> 00:19:44,555 Speaker 1: a tie in the House, it's not like the Senate. 262 00:19:44,835 --> 00:19:47,515 Speaker 1: There's no tie breaking vote. A tie in the House 263 00:19:47,675 --> 00:19:50,915 Speaker 1: is a no. You have to get two hundred and 264 00:19:50,955 --> 00:19:55,155 Speaker 1: eighteen votes to pass anything. Speaker Johnson will only have 265 00:19:55,355 --> 00:19:58,155 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty votes to play with, and now 266 00:19:58,275 --> 00:20:02,515 Speaker 1: literally any two House Republicans can stop anything they personally 267 00:20:02,555 --> 00:20:09,435 Speaker 1: don't like. Bon chance, mikey and you may have heard, 268 00:20:09,475 --> 00:20:11,795 Speaker 1: Mike Pence has been added to the potential witness list 269 00:20:11,795 --> 00:20:14,475 Speaker 1: in Georgia by Fannie Willis. It's way bigger than just that. 270 00:20:14,555 --> 00:20:17,915 Speaker 1: The Atlanta Journal Constitution saw the entire expanded witness list, 271 00:20:17,955 --> 00:20:21,955 Speaker 1: and sure it's Pence and Bill Barr and Jeffrey Rosen 272 00:20:21,995 --> 00:20:26,475 Speaker 1: and Richard Donahue from Justice and Steve Bannon and Congressman 273 00:20:26,515 --> 00:20:30,395 Speaker 1: Scott Perry, who, by the way, is also ineligible under 274 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:35,035 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment, and also on the witness list Georgia 275 00:20:35,075 --> 00:20:38,635 Speaker 1: officials like Governor Brian Kemp, former Lieutenant Governor Jeff Duncan, 276 00:20:38,795 --> 00:20:42,355 Speaker 1: Attorney General Chris Carr, and Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger, 277 00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:46,475 Speaker 1: all of whom are not ineligible under the fourteenth Amendment. 278 00:20:47,275 --> 00:20:52,515 Speaker 1: And don't effing make me dig up Thaddeus Stevens to 279 00:20:52,675 --> 00:20:56,795 Speaker 1: prove this, because he would be in a really really 280 00:20:57,195 --> 00:21:06,155 Speaker 1: bad mood. Also of interest here, oh, great Elon Musk. 281 00:21:06,315 --> 00:21:11,315 Speaker 1: Just let Tucker Carlson put Alex Jones back on Twitter, 282 00:21:12,555 --> 00:21:17,635 Speaker 1: and why yes, I did sell a nineteen fourteen Babe 283 00:21:17,715 --> 00:21:23,955 Speaker 1: Ruth Baltimore Orioles rookie baseball card for seven figures. Why 284 00:21:23,955 --> 00:21:30,555 Speaker 1: do you ask that's next? This is countdown. This is 285 00:21:30,715 --> 00:21:32,675 Speaker 1: countdown with Keith Alberman. 286 00:21:44,515 --> 00:21:50,915 Speaker 8: This is Sports Center. Wait, check that not anymore. This 287 00:21:51,755 --> 00:21:55,155 Speaker 8: is countdown with Keith. 288 00:21:54,955 --> 00:22:02,795 Speaker 1: Alberman in Sports Dateline, New York. He reached Major League 289 00:22:02,835 --> 00:22:06,355 Speaker 1: Baseball on May twentieth eighteen, and the rumors that he 290 00:22:06,395 --> 00:22:10,275 Speaker 1: would wind up with the New York Yankees began on 291 00:22:10,515 --> 00:22:14,755 Speaker 1: May twentieth, twenty eighteen. It reportedly came true last night. 292 00:22:14,835 --> 00:22:18,155 Speaker 1: Juan Soto reportedly traded from the San Diego Padres to 293 00:22:18,195 --> 00:22:21,875 Speaker 1: the Yankees along with outfielder Trent Grisham for young pitchers 294 00:22:21,915 --> 00:22:26,035 Speaker 1: Michael King, Randy Vasquez and Johnny Brido, top pitching prospect 295 00:22:26,155 --> 00:22:30,075 Speaker 1: Drew Thorpe, and the catcher Kyle Higashioka. Soto is an 296 00:22:30,115 --> 00:22:32,915 Speaker 1: offensive juggernaut who also gets walked an average of one 297 00:22:32,995 --> 00:22:36,355 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three times a season. On the other hand, 298 00:22:36,795 --> 00:22:39,955 Speaker 1: the Washington Nationals did not hesitate to dump him for 299 00:22:40,115 --> 00:22:44,155 Speaker 1: salary reasons at age twenty three, and San Diego, which 300 00:22:44,195 --> 00:22:46,995 Speaker 1: needed fifty million dollars in September in a loane just 301 00:22:47,035 --> 00:22:50,235 Speaker 1: to meet payroll has now dumped him for salary reasons 302 00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:53,195 Speaker 1: at age twenty five, And all the Yankee fans who 303 00:22:53,195 --> 00:22:56,435 Speaker 1: are proclaiming themselves the twenty twenty four World champions have 304 00:22:56,515 --> 00:22:59,435 Speaker 1: already forgotten. They said exactly the same thing when they 305 00:22:59,475 --> 00:23:03,795 Speaker 1: traded for John Carlos stanton On. The Yankees have won 306 00:23:03,915 --> 00:23:06,435 Speaker 1: one World Series since the year two thousand, which is 307 00:23:06,475 --> 00:23:13,915 Speaker 1: the longest drought in franchise history. Dateline Nashville, Tennessee. Three 308 00:23:13,955 --> 00:23:16,915 Speaker 1: months after, he got angry at reporters who suggested he 309 00:23:17,075 --> 00:23:20,275 Speaker 1: was thinking of moving the Chicago White Sox out of 310 00:23:20,355 --> 00:23:24,275 Speaker 1: Chicago after one hundred and twenty three seasons there, and 311 00:23:24,315 --> 00:23:26,675 Speaker 1: then said, you know, his lease is up in six years, 312 00:23:26,755 --> 00:23:28,835 Speaker 1: so quote, we've got to decide what the future is 313 00:23:28,875 --> 00:23:33,155 Speaker 1: going to be. Chicago White Sox owner Jerry Rhinsdorf the 314 00:23:33,195 --> 00:23:37,715 Speaker 1: biggest clown in sports, Bigger even than hal Steinbrenner of 315 00:23:37,715 --> 00:23:41,115 Speaker 1: the Yankees, more of a clown than two hal Steinbrenners. 316 00:23:41,515 --> 00:23:46,155 Speaker 1: Jerry Reinsdorf has reportedly met with the mayor of Nashville, 317 00:23:46,195 --> 00:23:50,195 Speaker 1: Tennessee that city is pushing hard for a major league 318 00:23:50,235 --> 00:23:54,595 Speaker 1: franchise of any kind. It can get Rhinsdorf previously blackmailed 319 00:23:54,595 --> 00:23:57,355 Speaker 1: the state of Illinois into a new ballpark by agreeing 320 00:23:57,355 --> 00:24:00,155 Speaker 1: to move the White Sox to Tampa Bay in nineteen 321 00:24:00,195 --> 00:24:02,795 Speaker 1: eighty eight. Then he backed out of that deal. Now 322 00:24:02,795 --> 00:24:05,755 Speaker 1: he's not happy with the new stadium I gave him, 323 00:24:05,995 --> 00:24:12,755 Speaker 1: but moved to Nashville. I mean, nice city, but in 324 00:24:12,835 --> 00:24:17,035 Speaker 1: terms of DMAs designated market areas how you make your 325 00:24:17,115 --> 00:24:21,195 Speaker 1: money in sports, Nashville is twenty ninth in this country. 326 00:24:21,275 --> 00:24:25,995 Speaker 1: TV household population is one million, eleven thousand people. Chicago, 327 00:24:26,435 --> 00:24:29,475 Speaker 1: by that same measure, is third. The population is three 328 00:24:29,555 --> 00:24:32,195 Speaker 1: times that size. So even if you were only to 329 00:24:32,195 --> 00:24:36,475 Speaker 1: get thirty five percent of the Chicago baseball market, you'll 330 00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:39,035 Speaker 1: be getting more people than you would get in Nashville. 331 00:24:39,675 --> 00:24:44,235 Speaker 1: Nashville is also a smaller market than Portland, Orlando, Charlotte, 332 00:24:44,955 --> 00:24:50,435 Speaker 1: and Indianapolis. But go ahead, move to Nashville from Chicago, Jerry, 333 00:24:50,675 --> 00:24:52,795 Speaker 1: because that's the kind of thinking that has brought the 334 00:24:52,795 --> 00:25:27,035 Speaker 1: White Sox one championship since nineteen oh six. Thank you, 335 00:25:27,115 --> 00:25:35,955 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. Actually you're welcome. Nancy Faust, Dateline, Baltimore. So 336 00:25:35,995 --> 00:25:39,475 Speaker 1: I got asked again last night that Babe Ruth baseball card, 337 00:25:39,515 --> 00:25:42,355 Speaker 1: his rookie card from nineteen fourteen, when he had just 338 00:25:42,435 --> 00:25:45,715 Speaker 1: started his professional career as a pitcher with the then 339 00:25:45,795 --> 00:25:49,195 Speaker 1: minor league Baltimore Orioles, before he was sold to the 340 00:25:49,235 --> 00:25:51,555 Speaker 1: Red Sox. Let alone sold to the Yankees. You know 341 00:25:51,635 --> 00:25:54,755 Speaker 1: the card that sold at auction for seven million, two 342 00:25:54,835 --> 00:25:59,435 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. No, it was not mine. I had one. 343 00:25:59,755 --> 00:26:03,435 Speaker 1: I sold mine early in twenty twenty for one million dollars, 344 00:26:03,635 --> 00:26:06,755 Speaker 1: And no, I'm not sorry. I did this one graded 345 00:26:06,995 --> 00:26:09,395 Speaker 1: very good, a three on a scale of one to ten. 346 00:26:09,635 --> 00:26:12,875 Speaker 1: The one I sold for for one seventh the price. 347 00:26:13,315 --> 00:26:15,475 Speaker 1: It looked nicer on the front, but half of the 348 00:26:15,595 --> 00:26:18,995 Speaker 1: back is missing. I think it's been graded authentic, which 349 00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:22,315 Speaker 1: means it's not even considered poor. If I auctioned it 350 00:26:22,355 --> 00:26:24,635 Speaker 1: off now, I might get more for it, maybe fifty 351 00:26:24,635 --> 00:26:28,475 Speaker 1: percent more, maybe twice as much. I mean, the guy 352 00:26:28,475 --> 00:26:32,075 Speaker 1: who lost that auction was clearly willing to go like 353 00:26:32,195 --> 00:26:34,435 Speaker 1: seven million flat for that one. So if you have 354 00:26:34,515 --> 00:26:37,635 Speaker 1: one at home, sell it. There are that many of 355 00:26:37,635 --> 00:26:40,995 Speaker 1: the Babe Ruth nineteen fourteen cards, and they are spectacular 356 00:26:41,115 --> 00:26:45,675 Speaker 1: artifacts of baseball history. They're almost religious iconography. Ruth is 357 00:26:45,755 --> 00:26:50,915 Speaker 1: shown skinny young just after the Truants home, but that 358 00:26:50,995 --> 00:26:54,675 Speaker 1: devilish smile and broad face are beginning to be recognizable. 359 00:26:54,715 --> 00:26:58,155 Speaker 1: It is some baseball card, but I sold mine for 360 00:26:58,195 --> 00:27:01,355 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One, it was the beginning of 361 00:27:01,435 --> 00:27:04,635 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and you might remember there was that pandemic 362 00:27:04,955 --> 00:27:07,315 Speaker 1: just underway, and nobody really knew how that was going 363 00:27:07,355 --> 00:27:09,675 Speaker 1: to turn out. I thought, hey, you know, maybe now 364 00:27:09,715 --> 00:27:13,915 Speaker 1: is the time to have that cash, not the card. Plus, 365 00:27:13,995 --> 00:27:16,395 Speaker 1: I bought it either in nineteen ninety nine or two thousand, 366 00:27:16,515 --> 00:27:21,555 Speaker 1: for only about twenty twenty five thousand, fifty thousand. Maybe 367 00:27:21,675 --> 00:27:25,235 Speaker 1: I don't know. If a profit of forty nine hundred 368 00:27:25,235 --> 00:27:28,275 Speaker 1: percent on a baseball card is not enough for you, 369 00:27:28,955 --> 00:27:30,915 Speaker 1: well not enough for me. It's time to get a 370 00:27:30,955 --> 00:27:35,275 Speaker 1: full physical, including a mental health test. More importantly, I'm 371 00:27:35,315 --> 00:27:38,315 Speaker 1: a set collector. I bought the Ruth because it was cool, 372 00:27:38,715 --> 00:27:40,955 Speaker 1: and I hope to complete the set produced by the 373 00:27:40,955 --> 00:27:44,875 Speaker 1: Baltimore News newspaper, showing both the minor league Baltimore Orioles 374 00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:49,475 Speaker 1: and the old Baltimore Terrapins of the long defunct Federal League. 375 00:27:49,555 --> 00:27:52,235 Speaker 1: But the set is really scarce, not just the Ruth card. 376 00:27:52,835 --> 00:27:56,595 Speaker 1: I have only seen about six of the other cards 377 00:27:57,195 --> 00:27:59,995 Speaker 1: from the set, let alone other Babe Ruths turn up 378 00:28:00,035 --> 00:28:03,395 Speaker 1: in all these years. My collection of nineteen fourteen Baltimore 379 00:28:03,435 --> 00:28:07,835 Speaker 1: News cards with twenty years trying consisted of two cards, 380 00:28:08,035 --> 00:28:11,955 Speaker 1: the Babe Ruth and the Gus Gleischmann. So I had 381 00:28:11,995 --> 00:28:14,995 Speaker 1: two and I still needed twenty two to complete the set. 382 00:28:15,875 --> 00:28:18,595 Speaker 1: I don't like that I have the famous nineteen oh 383 00:28:18,675 --> 00:28:20,675 Speaker 1: nine Honis Wagner, and in fact I have an even 384 00:28:20,755 --> 00:28:23,675 Speaker 1: rarer proof version of the same card, which Honnes Wagner 385 00:28:23,755 --> 00:28:26,155 Speaker 1: himself used to own. And I wanted to get a 386 00:28:26,155 --> 00:28:28,835 Speaker 1: Honess Wagner when I was eleven years old and I 387 00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:32,235 Speaker 1: started collecting the set. He's in American Tobacco T two 388 00:28:32,315 --> 00:28:35,315 Speaker 1: o six they call it, when I was eleven years old. 389 00:28:35,355 --> 00:28:37,995 Speaker 1: But if I didn't collect American Tobacco T two o six, 390 00:28:38,715 --> 00:28:41,555 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gotten a Wagner. But I do, so 391 00:28:41,675 --> 00:28:44,235 Speaker 1: I did. You have to have it to complete your set. 392 00:28:44,835 --> 00:28:46,955 Speaker 1: That and all the other five hundred and twenty three 393 00:28:46,995 --> 00:28:49,995 Speaker 1: cards in the set, and hundreds of different color variations, 394 00:28:50,035 --> 00:28:52,475 Speaker 1: and a bunch of proof cards of players who wound 395 00:28:52,555 --> 00:28:54,915 Speaker 1: up being dropped from the set. And they're really cool 396 00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:59,355 Speaker 1: because I'm a set collector. I'm an anal retentive. As 397 00:28:59,395 --> 00:29:01,635 Speaker 1: I think Diane Keaton said of Woody Allen in one 398 00:29:01,675 --> 00:29:04,115 Speaker 1: of his films, that's the nice term for what you are. 399 00:29:05,275 --> 00:29:09,715 Speaker 1: So I don't have the nineteen fourteen Babe Ruth card anymore. 400 00:29:10,435 --> 00:29:13,115 Speaker 1: I do like my Babe Ruth collection. When he hit 401 00:29:13,155 --> 00:29:16,075 Speaker 1: his five hundredth home running nineteen twenty nine, the year 402 00:29:16,115 --> 00:29:18,875 Speaker 1: my folks were born. My dad would have been thirteen 403 00:29:19,035 --> 00:29:21,955 Speaker 1: days old when Babe Ruth hit his five hundredth home run. 404 00:29:22,075 --> 00:29:24,075 Speaker 1: My mom would have been just shive two months old. 405 00:29:24,955 --> 00:29:27,715 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth bought it from the fan who ran down 406 00:29:27,715 --> 00:29:30,275 Speaker 1: the home run in Cleveland as it bounced around past 407 00:29:30,315 --> 00:29:33,835 Speaker 1: the outfield wall, a guy named Jake Geyser. He gave 408 00:29:33,915 --> 00:29:36,755 Speaker 1: Jake Geyser twenty bucks for it in nineteen twenty nine, 409 00:29:36,955 --> 00:29:39,755 Speaker 1: and then he gave the baseball to his pal, one 410 00:29:39,795 --> 00:29:43,115 Speaker 1: of the earliest of the true baseball collectors, the comedian 411 00:29:43,395 --> 00:29:47,115 Speaker 1: Joe E. Brown. He inscribed it to Joe Brown and 412 00:29:47,155 --> 00:29:50,115 Speaker 1: everything in. Brown put a screw into the bottom of 413 00:29:50,115 --> 00:29:52,675 Speaker 1: the ball and displayed it on a little marble pedestal. 414 00:29:52,915 --> 00:29:55,475 Speaker 1: And guess where Babe Ruth's five hundredth home run is 415 00:29:55,555 --> 00:30:00,715 Speaker 1: right now, including the pedestal yep, right in there behind 416 00:30:00,715 --> 00:30:05,315 Speaker 1: the studio wall. So I'll keep that. Of course, if 417 00:30:05,315 --> 00:30:07,955 Speaker 1: you want to make me an offer, I might listen. 418 00:30:30,235 --> 00:30:32,355 Speaker 1: Still ahead of us on countdown. I was just talking 419 00:30:32,395 --> 00:30:35,275 Speaker 1: to another woman with another charming British accent, and she 420 00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:39,635 Speaker 1: said another word that I mistook because of the accent, 421 00:30:40,115 --> 00:30:42,755 Speaker 1: for a different word, and that flashed me back to 422 00:30:42,795 --> 00:30:44,595 Speaker 1: this time of year in nineteen eighty five. I would 423 00:30:44,635 --> 00:30:48,115 Speaker 1: have sworn to you on my life that that British 424 00:30:48,155 --> 00:30:53,635 Speaker 1: woman had said her name last name was Carleton. It 425 00:30:53,795 --> 00:30:57,035 Speaker 1: is some story because her name was not Carlton, and 426 00:30:57,075 --> 00:30:59,035 Speaker 1: it's coming up in things I promised not to tell. 427 00:31:00,355 --> 00:31:02,035 Speaker 1: By the way, when I tapped on the door to 428 00:31:02,075 --> 00:31:05,475 Speaker 1: the studio, the door opened, oops first time for the 429 00:31:05,555 --> 00:31:07,795 Speaker 1: daily roundup of the mis grants, morons and Dunning Kruger 430 00:31:07,835 --> 00:31:12,315 Speaker 1: effect specimens who constitute two days worst persons in the world. 431 00:31:12,515 --> 00:31:15,075 Speaker 1: Wors Mayor Eric Adams of New York. Actually, this is 432 00:31:15,115 --> 00:31:18,635 Speaker 1: good news. This is a positive sign that my fellow 433 00:31:18,755 --> 00:31:23,435 Speaker 1: residents and Dennison's here of fun City are paying attention. 434 00:31:24,155 --> 00:31:28,675 Speaker 1: Quinnipiac polling Gotham on its opinion of its mayors since 435 00:31:28,755 --> 00:31:32,035 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six is out with the first poll on Adams, 436 00:31:32,315 --> 00:31:37,875 Speaker 1: and his approval rating is thirty five percent among Democrats, 437 00:31:38,755 --> 00:31:42,675 Speaker 1: it's twenty eight percent among all New Yorkers. They would 438 00:31:42,715 --> 00:31:45,715 Speaker 1: compare it to one of the other turds we've had recently, 439 00:31:45,835 --> 00:31:49,515 Speaker 1: Giuliani de Blasio. But this is the worst they have 440 00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:52,795 Speaker 1: ever polled for a New York mayor since they started 441 00:31:52,835 --> 00:31:55,195 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six. But don't worry. Mayor Adams is 442 00:31:55,275 --> 00:31:58,875 Speaker 1: unfazed after all, As he once said, I thank god 443 00:31:59,075 --> 00:32:02,395 Speaker 1: I'm the mayor right now. Get him out of here, 444 00:32:02,395 --> 00:32:03,875 Speaker 1: Get him out of here. Just get him out of here. 445 00:32:03,875 --> 00:32:05,235 Speaker 1: I don't care how you get them, just get him 446 00:32:05,235 --> 00:32:08,275 Speaker 1: out of here. Worser, speaking of get him out of here, 447 00:32:08,395 --> 00:32:11,355 Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy Junior, you know the Qanons and half 448 00:32:11,395 --> 00:32:14,515 Speaker 1: the Republicans want the death penalty for anybody who was 449 00:32:14,595 --> 00:32:19,435 Speaker 1: ever on the plane owned by Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein. Well, 450 00:32:19,435 --> 00:32:23,155 Speaker 1: guess what, Jesse Waters, Little Jesse. If Fox News asked 451 00:32:23,395 --> 00:32:27,395 Speaker 1: rfk Junior you were an ever on Jeffrey Epstein's jat 452 00:32:27,475 --> 00:32:31,195 Speaker 1: where are you? And Robert F. Kennedy Junior answered, I 453 00:32:31,395 --> 00:32:35,875 Speaker 1: was on Jeffrey Epstein's jat two times, my wife had 454 00:32:35,915 --> 00:32:42,555 Speaker 1: some kind of relationship with Kallaine Maxwell. Wait what two 455 00:32:42,595 --> 00:32:45,675 Speaker 1: times and your wife had a relationship with Khlain Maxwell. 456 00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:50,555 Speaker 1: So RFK Junior has to be military tribunaled right Republicans, 457 00:32:52,235 --> 00:32:56,795 Speaker 1: but the winner the worst. Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk 458 00:32:56,835 --> 00:33:03,915 Speaker 1: and Alex Jones. Remember Tucker Carlson, Remember Elon Musk, Remember 459 00:33:03,955 --> 00:33:09,075 Speaker 1: Alex Joe Ones. When Musk bought Twitter even he had 460 00:33:09,075 --> 00:33:12,395 Speaker 1: the self respect and self awareness to continue the ban 461 00:33:13,035 --> 00:33:16,355 Speaker 1: on the psychopath and Sandy Hook Denier Alex Jones, Well, 462 00:33:16,395 --> 00:33:21,715 Speaker 1: guess who he's platforming now in a video by Tucker 463 00:33:21,755 --> 00:33:26,995 Speaker 1: Carlson Alex Jones, a video in which Carlson says Jones 464 00:33:27,035 --> 00:33:30,395 Speaker 1: predicted nine to eleven, he didn't, and that nine to 465 00:33:30,395 --> 00:33:33,715 Speaker 1: eleven was an inside job. It wasn't. Oh, and this 466 00:33:33,755 --> 00:33:35,635 Speaker 1: comes on the same day as Republicans in the Senate 467 00:33:35,715 --> 00:33:39,915 Speaker 1: blocked a new assault weapons ban. Alex Jones, Sandy Hook Denier, 468 00:33:40,155 --> 00:33:42,075 Speaker 1: and there was another mass shooting at the University of 469 00:33:42,155 --> 00:33:46,555 Speaker 1: Nevada at Las Vegas. Alex Jones, Sandy Hook Denier platformed 470 00:33:46,595 --> 00:33:49,395 Speaker 1: by Elon Musk. Nice work, Musk here's an idea. The 471 00:33:49,395 --> 00:33:52,635 Speaker 1: next rocket you send up, make it self driving like 472 00:33:52,675 --> 00:33:57,755 Speaker 1: your incendiary cars, and make sure you and Tucker and 473 00:33:57,835 --> 00:34:03,875 Speaker 1: Alex Jones are on it with you. Scumbag Carlson insane, 474 00:34:04,075 --> 00:34:29,315 Speaker 1: Jones insane, Musk insane. Two days worst Arsendens. And now 475 00:34:29,355 --> 00:34:31,435 Speaker 1: to the number one story on the Countdown and my 476 00:34:31,475 --> 00:34:34,475 Speaker 1: favorite topic, me and things I promised not to tell, 477 00:34:34,555 --> 00:34:38,875 Speaker 1: and I swear I thought I heard her say, Carleton. 478 00:34:40,075 --> 00:34:43,835 Speaker 1: This was also December in nineteen eighty five in Los Angeles. 479 00:34:44,155 --> 00:34:46,955 Speaker 1: And if you've never spent Christmas in a warm metropolitan 480 00:34:46,995 --> 00:34:49,355 Speaker 1: area for the first time in your life, you do 481 00:34:49,475 --> 00:34:53,955 Speaker 1: not know what disorientation really is. I had just completed 482 00:34:53,995 --> 00:34:56,275 Speaker 1: three months in my new job as the sports director 483 00:34:56,315 --> 00:34:58,915 Speaker 1: of Channel five in LA. I had spent most of 484 00:34:58,995 --> 00:35:02,675 Speaker 1: November adjusting not only to it not getting cold, but 485 00:35:02,955 --> 00:35:05,515 Speaker 1: to the fact that almost nobody else noticed that it 486 00:35:05,555 --> 00:35:08,355 Speaker 1: was not getting cold, except one of our production assistants, 487 00:35:08,595 --> 00:35:11,195 Speaker 1: who sprinted through the parking lot and up the stairs 488 00:35:11,195 --> 00:35:14,315 Speaker 1: into the little bungalow on the KTLA lot in Hollywood, 489 00:35:14,395 --> 00:35:17,555 Speaker 1: then housed our sports department. He shivered like a dog, 490 00:35:17,635 --> 00:35:21,595 Speaker 1: shaking himself awake, and announced, my God, it's bitter out there. Bitter. 491 00:35:22,315 --> 00:35:27,315 Speaker 1: I checked it was forty nine degrees. So December nineteen 492 00:35:27,355 --> 00:35:30,555 Speaker 1: eighty five was already weird enough. I was doing well 493 00:35:30,595 --> 00:35:33,555 Speaker 1: in LA, being three thousand miles away from everyone and 494 00:35:33,595 --> 00:35:36,635 Speaker 1: everything I knew had been surprisingly helpful, and there was 495 00:35:36,675 --> 00:35:38,635 Speaker 1: no ramp up time for my work. I'd already won 496 00:35:38,675 --> 00:35:41,395 Speaker 1: a couple of best Sportscaster awards, and then the top 497 00:35:41,435 --> 00:35:43,715 Speaker 1: all news radio station was asking me to come over 498 00:35:43,795 --> 00:35:47,715 Speaker 1: every afternoon and split the afternoon drive sportscasting shift with 499 00:35:47,835 --> 00:35:50,395 Speaker 1: a guy who'd been on the air there literally for 500 00:35:50,435 --> 00:35:53,235 Speaker 1: thirty years, who's one of the voices in the background 501 00:35:53,275 --> 00:35:58,795 Speaker 1: and the Godfather Part two. And now somehow, my producer, 502 00:35:58,915 --> 00:36:01,435 Speaker 1: Ron Greulnick, and I were headed to the Beverly Wilshire 503 00:36:01,435 --> 00:36:06,475 Speaker 1: Hotel to go interview Mickey Mantle. For the average LA 504 00:36:06,555 --> 00:36:09,915 Speaker 1: sportscaster here, there really wasn't much reason to interview Mickey Mantle, 505 00:36:10,195 --> 00:36:12,275 Speaker 1: which is why all of them at the bigger three 506 00:36:12,475 --> 00:36:15,515 Speaker 1: network stations had turned down the offer of a sit 507 00:36:15,595 --> 00:36:18,995 Speaker 1: down interview. But I was a New Yorker and had 508 00:36:19,035 --> 00:36:22,075 Speaker 1: been three months earlier, and thus Mickey Mantle was my idol. 509 00:36:22,635 --> 00:36:25,315 Speaker 1: And moreover, when I became a baseball fan. In nineteen 510 00:36:25,435 --> 00:36:30,155 Speaker 1: sixty seven. My folks bought tickets specifically behind first base 511 00:36:30,235 --> 00:36:33,115 Speaker 1: at Yankee Stadium because they had just moved Mantle there 512 00:36:33,355 --> 00:36:35,595 Speaker 1: from the outfield. And as my dad said, when you 513 00:36:35,675 --> 00:36:38,595 Speaker 1: are an old man, you will say, the greatest thing 514 00:36:38,635 --> 00:36:42,195 Speaker 1: you ever saw in baseball was Mickey Mantle, so you 515 00:36:42,275 --> 00:36:45,035 Speaker 1: might as well see as much of him as you can. Well, 516 00:36:45,075 --> 00:36:47,475 Speaker 1: I'm an old man now, and my dad was exactly right. 517 00:36:48,995 --> 00:36:52,195 Speaker 1: Mantle was on a tour publicizing some kind of hitting video, 518 00:36:52,235 --> 00:36:54,835 Speaker 1: and he would do one exclusive interview with an LA 519 00:36:54,955 --> 00:36:57,755 Speaker 1: station at like exactly five pm on that night in 520 00:36:57,795 --> 00:37:00,715 Speaker 1: December nineteen eighty five, and to get it you had 521 00:37:00,755 --> 00:37:03,715 Speaker 1: to agree to give the video exactly one plug and 522 00:37:03,795 --> 00:37:06,675 Speaker 1: ask him one quot questioned about it. But otherwise you 523 00:37:06,715 --> 00:37:09,915 Speaker 1: could ask whatever you wanted. He had fifteen minutes then 524 00:37:09,915 --> 00:37:15,195 Speaker 1: he was going out to dinner. Yeah, yeah, that was it. Dinner. 525 00:37:16,115 --> 00:37:18,235 Speaker 1: So Ron and I pulled up to the Beverly Wilshire 526 00:37:18,235 --> 00:37:20,555 Speaker 1: in his car, and I had never been in, but 527 00:37:20,595 --> 00:37:22,755 Speaker 1: I had walked past it a dozen times and I 528 00:37:22,835 --> 00:37:24,915 Speaker 1: knew there was a new wing and an old wing. 529 00:37:24,955 --> 00:37:27,355 Speaker 1: And as Ron tried to park, I tried to find 530 00:37:27,395 --> 00:37:29,675 Speaker 1: the room where Mantle would be waiting for us, so 531 00:37:29,715 --> 00:37:32,075 Speaker 1: I could be there to meet the camera crew that 532 00:37:32,235 --> 00:37:35,315 Speaker 1: was joining us from some other shoot somewhere, and also 533 00:37:35,315 --> 00:37:38,315 Speaker 1: because he was Mickey Mantle. I had met him before, 534 00:37:38,355 --> 00:37:40,915 Speaker 1: I had even interviewed him briefly for CNN, but nothing 535 00:37:40,995 --> 00:37:43,475 Speaker 1: like this, nothing like a sit down interview, just me 536 00:37:44,035 --> 00:37:50,155 Speaker 1: and him. The room number was something like eight ninety seven, 537 00:37:50,635 --> 00:37:52,595 Speaker 1: could have been five ninety seven, could have been twelve 538 00:37:52,675 --> 00:37:55,715 Speaker 1: ninety seven, but it was basically the highest number there 539 00:37:55,755 --> 00:37:59,555 Speaker 1: could be on a given hotel floor. And I saw 540 00:37:59,555 --> 00:38:01,835 Speaker 1: the elevator just pass the registration desk and up. I 541 00:38:01,875 --> 00:38:04,635 Speaker 1: went to the eighth floor, and it was a deserted labyrinth, 542 00:38:05,355 --> 00:38:08,195 Speaker 1: turn after turn and nobody there. And then suddenly I 543 00:38:08,275 --> 00:38:11,915 Speaker 1: turned to corner, and walking towards me was the most 544 00:38:11,915 --> 00:38:15,475 Speaker 1: elegantly dressed older couple I had ever seen to that 545 00:38:15,635 --> 00:38:22,355 Speaker 1: point or since. She was wearing a mink stole atop 546 00:38:22,395 --> 00:38:26,155 Speaker 1: a beautiful gown, and she had a diamond necklace big 547 00:38:26,275 --> 00:38:30,995 Speaker 1: enough to induce cramps. She had a piercing, glistening set 548 00:38:30,995 --> 00:38:33,595 Speaker 1: of deep brown eyes. She looked to be in her 549 00:38:33,955 --> 00:38:37,355 Speaker 1: mid to late fifties, but might have been older. He 550 00:38:38,435 --> 00:38:41,195 Speaker 1: was older, maybe eighty, but with a full head of 551 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:45,675 Speaker 1: thick and wiry hair. He was tall, thin, extraordinarily elegant 552 00:38:45,795 --> 00:38:48,875 Speaker 1: in a perfect tuxedo. But all of this was overwhelmed, 553 00:38:48,915 --> 00:38:52,795 Speaker 1: almost erased, by one fact that startles me still thirty 554 00:38:52,995 --> 00:39:01,875 Speaker 1: seven years later. This man was wearing a cape. I'm 555 00:39:01,915 --> 00:39:04,195 Speaker 1: pretty confident that I had never seen a man wearing 556 00:39:04,235 --> 00:39:07,515 Speaker 1: a cape before. I know, I have not seen one 557 00:39:07,555 --> 00:39:10,795 Speaker 1: since I have been looking. And yet it looked so 558 00:39:11,115 --> 00:39:15,115 Speaker 1: good on him that I can recall briefly thinking, Keith, 559 00:39:15,155 --> 00:39:19,835 Speaker 1: maybe you should buy a cape. This couple was perfect. 560 00:39:20,715 --> 00:39:22,835 Speaker 1: We seem to be the only people on the floor. 561 00:39:23,315 --> 00:39:25,515 Speaker 1: The hallway wasn't all that wide. I said good evening 562 00:39:25,515 --> 00:39:27,795 Speaker 1: as I passed. She said good evening, and in so 563 00:39:27,915 --> 00:39:30,795 Speaker 1: doing revealed a British accent. And he mumbled at evening 564 00:39:31,195 --> 00:39:34,235 Speaker 1: and revealed what sounded like the lingering, minor aftermaths of 565 00:39:34,275 --> 00:39:38,075 Speaker 1: a minor stroke. They walked their way, I walked mine, 566 00:39:38,595 --> 00:39:41,755 Speaker 1: and my focus returned to finding Mickey Mantle in room 567 00:39:41,795 --> 00:39:45,835 Speaker 1: eight ninety seven. The numbers of the rooms I was 568 00:39:45,875 --> 00:39:48,635 Speaker 1: passing were like eight eleven and eight fourteen, and after 569 00:39:48,675 --> 00:39:50,915 Speaker 1: a few more turns of the labyrinth. That dawned on 570 00:39:50,995 --> 00:39:53,675 Speaker 1: me that I must be in the old wing of 571 00:39:53,715 --> 00:39:56,715 Speaker 1: the Beverly Wilshire, and the high numbers like eight ninety 572 00:39:56,755 --> 00:39:58,395 Speaker 1: seven must have been in the new wing of the 573 00:39:58,435 --> 00:40:01,555 Speaker 1: Beverly Wilshire. I also noticed that I had not passed 574 00:40:01,595 --> 00:40:04,435 Speaker 1: a doorway or a vestibule or some kind of connecting 575 00:40:04,435 --> 00:40:07,395 Speaker 1: brick to the new wing, so I had better make 576 00:40:07,395 --> 00:40:09,675 Speaker 1: it back to the elevator and the lobby before Ron 577 00:40:09,755 --> 00:40:12,035 Speaker 1: or the camera crew made the same mistake I had. 578 00:40:12,475 --> 00:40:17,595 Speaker 1: Because Mickey Mantle was waiting my reversed course, I began 579 00:40:17,635 --> 00:40:21,515 Speaker 1: to trot. After three or four more of these labyrinthine turns, 580 00:40:21,755 --> 00:40:25,315 Speaker 1: I found, to my shock that the perfectly elegant older 581 00:40:25,355 --> 00:40:30,115 Speaker 1: couple he was wearing a cape, was standing exactly where 582 00:40:30,115 --> 00:40:34,115 Speaker 1: I had left them. She laughed, she mentioned something about 583 00:40:34,115 --> 00:40:36,155 Speaker 1: the higher numbers being in the new wing, and everybody 584 00:40:36,195 --> 00:40:38,475 Speaker 1: made that mistake. I thanked her, and then she said, 585 00:40:39,155 --> 00:40:41,555 Speaker 1: you're the young man who does the spots on the television, 586 00:40:41,595 --> 00:40:45,475 Speaker 1: aren't you. And I had gotten pretty popular pretty fast there, 587 00:40:45,475 --> 00:40:48,475 Speaker 1: but being recognized was still very surprising and pleasantly so. 588 00:40:48,635 --> 00:40:51,395 Speaker 1: And I said that, and I introduced myself. So nice 589 00:40:51,435 --> 00:40:54,795 Speaker 1: to meet you, She said, I'm Patricia Carlton, and this, 590 00:40:55,115 --> 00:40:58,075 Speaker 1: she pointed to the guy in the cape is my husband. 591 00:40:58,715 --> 00:41:02,475 Speaker 1: He slowly extended a hand but shook mine vigorously, and 592 00:41:02,555 --> 00:41:07,915 Speaker 1: I'm Joseph Carlton. Missus Carleton was very excited. You know, 593 00:41:08,035 --> 00:41:10,355 Speaker 1: Joe and I, we really are not fans of the sports, 594 00:41:10,915 --> 00:41:12,915 Speaker 1: but whenever we're at home in Palm Springs, we make 595 00:41:12,955 --> 00:41:14,475 Speaker 1: sure we stay up until the end of the ten 596 00:41:14,515 --> 00:41:18,195 Speaker 1: o'clock news so we can watch you. Joe nodded and 597 00:41:18,315 --> 00:41:21,795 Speaker 1: smiled in the cape. You know, so clearly enjoying yourself 598 00:41:21,835 --> 00:41:24,595 Speaker 1: that we find ourselves enjoying it too. That's really quite remarkable. 599 00:41:25,835 --> 00:41:29,435 Speaker 1: I was genuinely touched and remain so I explained my dilemma. 600 00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:32,235 Speaker 1: I treated them as you were supposed to treat viewers, 601 00:41:32,275 --> 00:41:34,315 Speaker 1: gratefully and solicitously, and I asked them if they were 602 00:41:34,315 --> 00:41:36,515 Speaker 1: going to the lobby, and if I might walk with them, 603 00:41:36,515 --> 00:41:39,875 Speaker 1: so I didn't get any further lost. We'd be delighted. 604 00:41:40,275 --> 00:41:42,955 Speaker 1: I must ask you, mister fishman, who does the news 605 00:41:42,955 --> 00:41:47,275 Speaker 1: on your program? Is that his real hair? She saw 606 00:41:47,315 --> 00:41:50,475 Speaker 1: my shock at the question. Joe and I have often 607 00:41:50,515 --> 00:41:53,435 Speaker 1: worn wigs, and we can't be certain. That means if 608 00:41:53,435 --> 00:41:57,435 Speaker 1: it is a wig, it's a good one. We reached 609 00:41:57,435 --> 00:42:01,155 Speaker 1: the elevator bank and I pushed down. He was walking slowly. 610 00:42:01,235 --> 00:42:03,755 Speaker 1: He must have had a stroke. Still, he was an 611 00:42:03,795 --> 00:42:06,515 Speaker 1: imposing figure of a man, and not just because he 612 00:42:06,675 --> 00:42:09,875 Speaker 1: was wearing a cape. As I steered them away from 613 00:42:09,875 --> 00:42:12,915 Speaker 1: the subject of our anchorman's to pay and talked instead 614 00:42:12,955 --> 00:42:17,315 Speaker 1: about my Mickey Mantle interview, I realized he looked extremely familiar, 615 00:42:18,395 --> 00:42:23,715 Speaker 1: like I knew him. Joseph Carleton kept rolling the name 616 00:42:23,755 --> 00:42:28,835 Speaker 1: over in my mind. And Patricia Carlton, who are they? 617 00:42:30,315 --> 00:42:32,955 Speaker 1: The elevator light went off and a very loud bell sounded. 618 00:42:33,315 --> 00:42:36,195 Speaker 1: The doors opened, and there was my producer, Ron and 619 00:42:36,275 --> 00:42:38,755 Speaker 1: the two man camera crew and the reporter who had 620 00:42:38,755 --> 00:42:41,635 Speaker 1: been with them on the previous story, Sam chu Lynn, 621 00:42:41,875 --> 00:42:44,035 Speaker 1: who had stayed with him because he wanted to meet 622 00:42:44,075 --> 00:42:47,035 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle. And as I joked to my new friends 623 00:42:47,115 --> 00:42:50,435 Speaker 1: Joe and Patricia Carlton, oh look, here's my camera crew. 624 00:42:51,715 --> 00:42:54,635 Speaker 1: It's four members made no motion to even leave the elevator. 625 00:42:54,675 --> 00:42:58,115 Speaker 1: They all looked dumb struck. Sam chu Lynn's eyes looked 626 00:42:58,115 --> 00:42:59,715 Speaker 1: like they were about to pop out of his head. 627 00:42:59,795 --> 00:43:02,595 Speaker 1: I assumed this was because my new friend Joe was 628 00:43:02,715 --> 00:43:08,075 Speaker 1: wearing a cape. Finally I got the crew to move. 629 00:43:08,355 --> 00:43:10,515 Speaker 1: I held the door open so Joe and Patricia could 630 00:43:10,515 --> 00:43:13,555 Speaker 1: get into the elevator. I actually said, such a pleasure 631 00:43:13,555 --> 00:43:15,155 Speaker 1: to meet you, and of course, thank you so much 632 00:43:15,155 --> 00:43:18,995 Speaker 1: for watching Channel five News at ten, and she smiled warmly, 633 00:43:19,035 --> 00:43:21,315 Speaker 1: and he managed to quick wave and the doors closed. 634 00:43:21,635 --> 00:43:25,795 Speaker 1: And only at that exact moment did it dawn on 635 00:43:25,915 --> 00:43:31,195 Speaker 1: me where I knew him from the blood now drained 636 00:43:31,595 --> 00:43:33,795 Speaker 1: from my face. As I turned to talk to the 637 00:43:33,795 --> 00:43:38,035 Speaker 1: camera crew and Ron and Sam. Uh, you guys knew 638 00:43:38,035 --> 00:43:41,875 Speaker 1: who those two people were, right, Sam laughed at me. 639 00:43:42,315 --> 00:43:46,275 Speaker 1: Of course I did, didn't you? And I sighed, oh 640 00:43:46,275 --> 00:43:49,795 Speaker 1: my god. She said her name was Patricia Carleton and 641 00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:53,475 Speaker 1: that was her husband, Joseph Carleton, and she said it 642 00:43:53,475 --> 00:43:56,715 Speaker 1: that way because she's British, and that's how if you're 643 00:43:56,755 --> 00:44:01,675 Speaker 1: British you would say the name Cotton. She's Patricia Cotton 644 00:44:02,195 --> 00:44:07,995 Speaker 1: and he's Joseph Cotton, who was in Citizen Kane. I 645 00:44:07,995 --> 00:44:09,955 Speaker 1: remember actually put my hand on the wall on my 646 00:44:10,035 --> 00:44:12,795 Speaker 1: face in my other hand. I just met Joseph Cotton, 647 00:44:12,835 --> 00:44:16,995 Speaker 1: and I didn't recognize him, and the cameraman Martin Klancy, 648 00:44:16,995 --> 00:44:19,875 Speaker 1: who also often said things like this, said pretty stupid 649 00:44:19,915 --> 00:44:23,035 Speaker 1: of you, huh, And I said, you know you have 650 00:44:23,115 --> 00:44:26,395 Speaker 1: no idea how stupid? I mean, obviously I know who 651 00:44:26,475 --> 00:44:30,675 Speaker 1: Joseph Cotton is. And Sam Chulinn said are you sure 652 00:44:30,715 --> 00:44:33,435 Speaker 1: about that? I gave him a dirty look and I said, no, 653 00:44:33,475 --> 00:44:37,555 Speaker 1: it's worse than this. In nineteen forty eight, the president 654 00:44:37,595 --> 00:44:41,875 Speaker 1: of the International Joseph Cotton Fan Club was my mother. 655 00:44:42,595 --> 00:44:45,835 Speaker 1: There is a picture of that man with my mother 656 00:44:46,715 --> 00:44:50,755 Speaker 1: from like thirty seven years ago at the Stork Club. 657 00:44:53,035 --> 00:44:57,275 Speaker 1: They all laughed. Then Sam Chulin said in that photo, 658 00:44:57,355 --> 00:45:03,795 Speaker 1: is he wearing that cape? My gaff did serve to 659 00:45:03,835 --> 00:45:08,475 Speaker 1: relax me a little for the interview with Mantle. My gaff. 660 00:45:09,675 --> 00:45:13,395 Speaker 1: When I get over it, i'll let you know. So anyway, 661 00:45:13,435 --> 00:45:15,875 Speaker 1: we all reached room eight ninety seven or whatever it 662 00:45:15,995 --> 00:45:19,035 Speaker 1: was in the new Wing the Beverly Wilshire, and as 663 00:45:19,075 --> 00:45:20,995 Speaker 1: the crew set up, I managed to tell the story 664 00:45:20,995 --> 00:45:24,075 Speaker 1: of the Cottons to Mickey Mantle and he said, yeah, 665 00:45:24,115 --> 00:45:25,995 Speaker 1: I saw them in the lobby a couple hours ago. 666 00:45:26,155 --> 00:45:28,435 Speaker 1: He's a great actor. I met him in New York, 667 00:45:28,595 --> 00:45:31,155 Speaker 1: must be thirty years ago. Did you say hi? 668 00:45:31,395 --> 00:45:31,595 Speaker 7: Oh? 669 00:45:31,715 --> 00:45:31,875 Speaker 6: Right? 670 00:45:31,915 --> 00:45:35,235 Speaker 1: You just told me you didn't recognize him. Mickey Mantle 671 00:45:35,315 --> 00:45:38,915 Speaker 1: was busting my chops, as I said. I had met 672 00:45:38,955 --> 00:45:41,035 Speaker 1: him before, even interviewed him before, but this was our 673 00:45:41,035 --> 00:45:43,315 Speaker 1: first sit down. And he was in a good mood, 674 00:45:43,355 --> 00:45:47,195 Speaker 1: even expansive and playful. And at one point he stunned me. 675 00:45:47,915 --> 00:45:49,235 Speaker 1: I said, I know you only have a couple of 676 00:45:49,235 --> 00:45:51,555 Speaker 1: minutes left, so forgive me if I'm bringing up something 677 00:45:51,555 --> 00:45:53,355 Speaker 1: that takes more than a couple of minutes. And he interrupted, 678 00:45:53,395 --> 00:45:55,275 Speaker 1: and he said, take as much time as you need. 679 00:45:55,275 --> 00:45:59,275 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying us talking. So I asked him about this 680 00:45:59,355 --> 00:46:02,075 Speaker 1: one subject, how he felt about what he did in 681 00:46:02,115 --> 00:46:05,995 Speaker 1: his career, considering how injured he was when he retired. 682 00:46:06,035 --> 00:46:08,675 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle was third all time in homers. He hit 683 00:46:08,715 --> 00:46:11,235 Speaker 1: three hundred and ten times. He played in twelve World 684 00:46:11,275 --> 00:46:16,755 Speaker 1: Series on one bad knee and one worse knee. Mantell 685 00:46:16,835 --> 00:46:20,675 Speaker 1: got very reflective and self critical. We use this sound 686 00:46:20,755 --> 00:46:23,635 Speaker 1: bite at the end of his obituary that I would 687 00:46:23,635 --> 00:46:27,235 Speaker 1: do for ESPN a decade later if I'd known I 688 00:46:27,275 --> 00:46:29,115 Speaker 1: was going to live so long, he told me, I 689 00:46:29,115 --> 00:46:31,675 Speaker 1: would have taken better care of myself and done better. 690 00:46:33,035 --> 00:46:36,515 Speaker 1: I said, well, he'd done pretty good. I could have 691 00:46:36,675 --> 00:46:41,635 Speaker 1: done better, I thanked him. Then, as the cameraman moved 692 00:46:41,675 --> 00:46:43,515 Speaker 1: to get the shots of me nodding and repeating a 693 00:46:43,595 --> 00:46:47,035 Speaker 1: question or two, Mickey Mantle said that was really good. 694 00:46:47,675 --> 00:46:52,035 Speaker 1: I flushed. I got to ask you something. Can you 695 00:46:52,035 --> 00:46:55,995 Speaker 1: give me some pointers? I suddenly had no idea what 696 00:46:56,035 --> 00:47:00,915 Speaker 1: the word pointers meant? Pointers? What are pointers? Mantle said 697 00:47:00,995 --> 00:47:02,515 Speaker 1: he was going to do some Yankee games the next 698 00:47:02,555 --> 00:47:06,075 Speaker 1: year on cable with Mel Allen doing interviews after games. 699 00:47:06,235 --> 00:47:09,155 Speaker 1: I'm no damn good at interviews. Just now, you were 700 00:47:09,155 --> 00:47:12,755 Speaker 1: moving from topics to topics so smooth. How you keep 701 00:47:12,795 --> 00:47:16,115 Speaker 1: all the questions in your head? Now? I laughed. I 702 00:47:16,115 --> 00:47:17,755 Speaker 1: didn't keep them in my head. Didn't you see my 703 00:47:17,835 --> 00:47:20,155 Speaker 1: cheat card? And he laughed and he said no, and 704 00:47:20,195 --> 00:47:21,435 Speaker 1: I showed it to him. I said, it's just a 705 00:47:21,435 --> 00:47:24,835 Speaker 1: business card with like seven keywords written on the back. 706 00:47:25,075 --> 00:47:27,555 Speaker 1: If I think i might freeze up because I'm nervous 707 00:47:27,595 --> 00:47:30,955 Speaker 1: because I'm interviewing Mickey Mantle, or I just met Joseph 708 00:47:30,955 --> 00:47:33,435 Speaker 1: Cotton and I didn't recognize him, I make one of 709 00:47:33,475 --> 00:47:36,555 Speaker 1: these cards. I hide it in the palm of my hand, 710 00:47:36,795 --> 00:47:39,475 Speaker 1: and if I get stuck, I could just look down 711 00:47:39,555 --> 00:47:41,115 Speaker 1: quickly and see one of the words, and I've got 712 00:47:41,115 --> 00:47:43,715 Speaker 1: the question. I've got this card to remind me. Mickey 713 00:47:43,715 --> 00:47:49,155 Speaker 1: Mantle's eyes glowed. But wait, he said, we're using these mics, 714 00:47:49,915 --> 00:47:51,835 Speaker 1: and he pointed to the clip on on his shirt, 715 00:47:52,115 --> 00:47:53,875 Speaker 1: so you don't have to hold mike. What do you 716 00:47:53,915 --> 00:47:55,795 Speaker 1: do if you have to hold the mic like I'll 717 00:47:55,835 --> 00:47:58,315 Speaker 1: have to in an interview after a ballgame, What if 718 00:47:58,355 --> 00:48:00,555 Speaker 1: the card would fall out or you have to shake 719 00:48:00,595 --> 00:48:03,515 Speaker 1: hands with the player. And I said, well, just write 720 00:48:03,555 --> 00:48:06,875 Speaker 1: the words on your hand whichever hand is holding the mic, 721 00:48:07,635 --> 00:48:11,635 Speaker 1: like below the thumb. Mickey Mantle looked at me as 722 00:48:11,675 --> 00:48:14,555 Speaker 1: if I had just given him the secret of eternal life. Wow, 723 00:48:15,835 --> 00:48:18,435 Speaker 1: he said, that's great. I'm gonna write this down. Thanks, 724 00:48:18,795 --> 00:48:21,075 Speaker 1: and we were packed up, and he actually walked me 725 00:48:21,115 --> 00:48:23,275 Speaker 1: to the hotel room door and gave me a double 726 00:48:23,315 --> 00:48:28,355 Speaker 1: handed handshake. So it had been a big day, even 727 00:48:28,395 --> 00:48:32,395 Speaker 1: if I didn't realize it was Joseph Cotton. Mickey Mantle 728 00:48:32,435 --> 00:48:36,515 Speaker 1: had asked me for advice about anything. Somehow I had 729 00:48:36,515 --> 00:48:38,795 Speaker 1: thought of something to tell him, and he was really 730 00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:43,915 Speaker 1: happy about the advice, and of course this provided a punchline. 731 00:48:43,915 --> 00:48:46,995 Speaker 1: The following spring, we were in the studios at KTLA, 732 00:48:47,115 --> 00:48:49,715 Speaker 1: watching on the satellite feed as the Yankees first cable 733 00:48:49,755 --> 00:48:52,675 Speaker 1: telecast of the nineteen eighty six season ended, And sure enough, 734 00:48:52,675 --> 00:48:54,395 Speaker 1: they threw it down to Mickey Mantle on the field 735 00:48:54,435 --> 00:48:57,035 Speaker 1: interviewing some player, and one of our producers said, oh, 736 00:48:57,115 --> 00:48:58,995 Speaker 1: let's see if he remembers the lesson you gave him, 737 00:48:59,035 --> 00:49:01,595 Speaker 1: and another one said, here's your student, Mickey Mantle. And 738 00:49:01,675 --> 00:49:05,475 Speaker 1: sure enough, after the first answer, Mickey Mantle pauses, and 739 00:49:05,515 --> 00:49:07,875 Speaker 1: I know he can't remember what he wanted to ask next, 740 00:49:08,075 --> 00:49:10,435 Speaker 1: And sure enough I see him cheat his look down 741 00:49:10,475 --> 00:49:13,195 Speaker 1: slightly towards the head holding the microphone, and the next 742 00:49:13,195 --> 00:49:17,155 Speaker 1: thing I see he's kind of tilted the microphone sideways 743 00:49:17,795 --> 00:49:20,435 Speaker 1: and he's asking the question, but you can barely hear 744 00:49:20,555 --> 00:49:25,195 Speaker 1: him because the mic is pointing off at a forty 745 00:49:25,235 --> 00:49:29,835 Speaker 1: five degree angle, because he has written his key reminder 746 00:49:29,875 --> 00:49:34,955 Speaker 1: words not below the thumb on the outside part of 747 00:49:34,995 --> 00:49:38,195 Speaker 1: his hand, but on the palm side of his hand, 748 00:49:38,915 --> 00:49:40,955 Speaker 1: and he's had to move the mic out of the 749 00:49:40,955 --> 00:49:43,315 Speaker 1: way to read the words on the palm of his hand. 750 00:49:43,355 --> 00:49:48,035 Speaker 1: And the producer says, ha ha, Well, now Mickey Mantle 751 00:49:48,115 --> 00:50:03,475 Speaker 1: hates you. I've done all the damage I can do here. 752 00:50:03,515 --> 00:50:05,115 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Count And it has come to 753 00:50:05,155 --> 00:50:07,635 Speaker 1: you from the Vin Scully Studios at the El Roman 754 00:50:07,715 --> 00:50:10,795 Speaker 1: Broadcasting Empire in New York. My mother when I called 755 00:50:10,795 --> 00:50:12,635 Speaker 1: her that day to tell her that I had met 756 00:50:12,675 --> 00:50:16,395 Speaker 1: Joseph Cotton and not recognized him until the exact last 757 00:50:16,435 --> 00:50:20,195 Speaker 1: minute that the elevator doors closed, my mother said, you know, 758 00:50:20,275 --> 00:50:22,595 Speaker 1: he was not very talkative. Back at the Stork Club 759 00:50:22,595 --> 00:50:26,435 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty seven, Countdown musical directors Brian Ray and 760 00:50:26,475 --> 00:50:30,315 Speaker 1: John Phillip Schanel arranged, produced, and performed most of our music. 761 00:50:30,555 --> 00:50:33,715 Speaker 1: Mister Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Mister Ray was on 762 00:50:33,755 --> 00:50:37,595 Speaker 1: the guitars, bass and drums, produced by Tko Brothers. It 763 00:50:37,715 --> 00:50:40,435 Speaker 1: explained at least, although it does underscore the fact that 764 00:50:40,475 --> 00:50:44,355 Speaker 1: my mother held a grudge. Now and again. There it 765 00:50:44,635 --> 00:50:46,595 Speaker 1: was a photo. I saw it. I don't know where 766 00:50:46,595 --> 00:50:49,595 Speaker 1: it is. I've looked for it. It's a photo of 767 00:50:49,675 --> 00:50:54,915 Speaker 1: my mother at the Stork Club with Joseph Cotton, nineteen 768 00:50:54,995 --> 00:50:58,435 Speaker 1: forty seven fan club meeting of some sort, and Joseph 769 00:50:58,435 --> 00:51:01,715 Speaker 1: Cotton looks bored and my mother looks even more bored. 770 00:51:03,315 --> 00:51:06,395 Speaker 1: I would I'd pay somebody in my family to find 771 00:51:06,395 --> 00:51:09,195 Speaker 1: that photo for me. You guys are listening, go ahead. 772 00:51:09,435 --> 00:51:12,355 Speaker 1: Other music, including some of the Beethoven compositions, arranged and 773 00:51:12,395 --> 00:51:16,355 Speaker 1: performed by No horns allowed. The sports music courtesy ESPN, Inc. 774 00:51:16,555 --> 00:51:18,995 Speaker 1: Written by Mitch Warren Davis. We call it the Olderman 775 00:51:19,035 --> 00:51:23,115 Speaker 1: theme from ESPN two. Our satirical and pithy musical comments 776 00:51:23,315 --> 00:51:26,355 Speaker 1: are by Nancy Fauss, the best baseball stadium organist ever. 777 00:51:26,635 --> 00:51:29,955 Speaker 1: Our announcer today is my friend John Dean. Everything else 778 00:51:30,155 --> 00:51:32,435 Speaker 1: pretty much my fault. So that's countdown for this, the 779 00:51:32,435 --> 00:51:35,915 Speaker 1: one thy sixty sixth day since dementia Jay Trump's first 780 00:51:35,915 --> 00:51:39,675 Speaker 1: attempted coup against the democratically elected government of the United States. 781 00:51:40,115 --> 00:51:44,115 Speaker 1: Use the Insurrection Act against him and them while we 782 00:51:44,195 --> 00:51:48,875 Speaker 1: still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bolletin's as 783 00:51:48,875 --> 00:51:51,275 Speaker 1: the news warrants till then on Keith Olderman, good morning, 784 00:51:51,475 --> 00:51:54,075 Speaker 1: good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. 785 00:51:57,875 --> 00:52:19,475 Speaker 9: Foh, there these are the stakes who. 786 00:52:19,315 --> 00:52:23,755 Speaker 3: Would never abuse power as retribution against anybody? 787 00:52:23,835 --> 00:52:26,955 Speaker 4: Except the day one, except the walk He's going to Chris, 788 00:52:27,115 --> 00:52:28,795 Speaker 4: except the day one. He says, You're not going to 789 00:52:28,835 --> 00:52:30,955 Speaker 4: be a dictator, are you? I said no, no, no 790 00:52:31,195 --> 00:52:32,075 Speaker 4: other than day one. 791 00:52:32,475 --> 00:52:37,595 Speaker 7: We must either love each other or we must die. 792 00:52:37,995 --> 00:52:43,395 Speaker 1: Vote for President Biden on November fifth. The stakes are 793 00:52:43,435 --> 00:52:48,475 Speaker 1: too high for you to stay home. Countdown with Keith 794 00:52:48,515 --> 00:52:53,515 Speaker 1: Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 795 00:52:53,715 --> 00:52:57,755 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 796 00:52:57,795 --> 00:52:58,675 Speaker 1: your podcasts.