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So much though they have a 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 6: remix of the I'm a Believer song coming okay, wait 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 6: sooner than later. 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: Next week next to no no, no, no, no, no, 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: next Tuesday and Wednesday, no following Tuesday and Wednesday. 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 5: Oh no, we got the coming up to this. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 6: So on one hand, Sam Donald in a win mention 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 6: that lowest completion percentage of the season fifty percent, second 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 6: worst yards per attempt. He overthrew at least one long 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 6: touchdown and under threw at least another touchdown touchdowns. There 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 6: wasn't spectacular Brandy means, but zero turnovers. In the second half, 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 6: he turned it on ten to sixteen, one fourteen and 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 6: a touchdown, so there was some context to what he 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 6: did there in the game. So, guys, obviously, now that 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 6: Sam Donald has got the super Bowl, he played mistake 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 6: free football for about a month. It's clear now more 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 6: than ever, that we've all turned the page of Sam Donald. 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Right, not so fast, Gosh, you set up here and promise. 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: Through not so fast. 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: I will give you that he had a clean game, 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna buy into Sam Donald. In fact, 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: I'm calling him scam Donald. He's he gammed his way 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: into a super Bowl riding a great defense and a 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: kicker who set a record for field goals because Sam 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 4: Donald couldn't get the team in the end zone. We 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 4: know he had the most turnovers in the NFL, yes, twenty. 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: When you think back to his. 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: Numbers all year twenty five touchdowns, fourteen interceptions, it's not great. 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: He had an okay season. 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: His Super Bowl numbers, it was so bad that they 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 4: picked a running back with no touchdowns to beat the MVP. 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: Because they couldn't give it to the defense, They didn't 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 4: want to give it to the kicker, so the running 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: back got it again. A clean game, but it was 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 4: not spectacular by any stretch of the imagination. Two hundred 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: and two yards, one touchdown, seventy four point seven percent 51 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: quarterback rating. It was so bad, in fact, that Brad 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: Johnson and Trent Dilfer had better quarterback ratings than Sam Donald. 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: Only in two games this year did Sam Donald have 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: a worse quarterback rating. I mean, that's how bad this 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: was compared. 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: To the rest of the season. 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: He shrunk when it mattered most, in those big moments. 58 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: Rob g talked about two touchdowns that he didn't deliver 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: on in the red zone and a chance to blow 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: this game open. Couldn't do it nine to nothing at 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: the half. Celebrate him all you want. It was a 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: mid performance. And I'm not giving up the ghost that 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: I'm buying in the Sam Donald that he's a big 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: time quarterback. 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: He's not that quarterback. 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: Who the Jets drafted and thought that their franchise quarterback 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: would be. Is he suitable for framing? Can he get 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: you a Super Bowl with a great defense and kicker? Yes, 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: he can, but from here on out, he scammed Donald 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: because he scammed himself into a super. 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Scam Parker is what I'm calling you. Scam Parker. You 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: set up here, look me in the eyes, and lied 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: to me and the people who wake up every day 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: listening to our show, going about their day, working hard, 75 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: listening to the pod, ignoring the children and their spouses 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: to listen to us. And they heard you say this. 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: Hit me with that, Mary and Rob g I will 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: not believe in Sam Donald until he's it's Super Bowl 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: Sunday and he runs out onto. 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 5: The field he did with the Seahawks and then he 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 5: ran up to the stage with a Super Bowl trophy. 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 5: Do you believe in him? 83 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: No, you give him another nickname, scam Darno. I'm so 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: mad at you all season long. When you did it right, Hey, Rob, 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: you got it right. When that happened, you were like, hey, 86 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: look that happened. I said it would. And dagget when 87 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: you're wrong. I need you to be wrong. And when 88 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you tell the people you're gonna do something, you need 89 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: to believe in them. 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 5: You said you would. 91 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Now let's get back to some things you brought up 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: this particular game grant you. He didn't look like the 93 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: return to Joe Montana, Tom Brady and John that way. 94 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: But you know what, guess what, you know who else 95 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: didn't the guy who you said should have won MVP. 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 5: You know what Drake May had in four games in the. 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: Postseason, six passing touchdowns, four interceptions. 98 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'll say that it was. 99 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Sacked hold up an NFL record twenty one times. The 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: reason I bring it up is to say, Sam Darnold, 101 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: you always bring up led the NFL and terms, and 102 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: that's a fact, and I say, hey, I can't argue Jen. 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Only thing I will say is, hey, he's been on 104 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: the three game with Hey. He looked great against the 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game against r Hey. He looked great in 106 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: that second, that four quarter against the Rams, you know, 107 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: a few weeks back. He's been great since then, including 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: the specifically Ribu with the turnovers. He did not turn 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the ball over a single time in the post was 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: a clean game. It was huge, though, But that's huge 111 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: in a game like that because turnovers ultimately can turn 112 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: around and be the thing. And this is what he did. 113 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: He didn't make all the big throws. He didn't have 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: three hundred four hundred yards. But what he did was 115 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: get his team down the field enough to get said 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: field goals. 117 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 5: I admit he was boring. 118 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: We all wanted more action, but he got those field goals, 119 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: which were enough to give them a nice twelve point 120 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: lead and then ultimately nineteen to nothing and then the 121 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: Patriots scored a couple. But my point is he had 122 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: to do what Drake May couldn't do, and Drake May 123 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: couldn't make some of the throws that were there because 124 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: he was seeing ghosts. Ironically enough, which is what Sam 125 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Donald said back when he was a Jet, Sam Donald 126 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: did enough. He didn't hurt his team. We piled on 127 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: to CJ. Straub because he hurt his team. He was 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: the reason they lost. When you have a great special team, 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: you're well coaching, you have a good defense, you go 130 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: out there and do what you're supposed to do. He 131 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: did that, so you got to put some respect on it. 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: And this is to me. Now we're looking at him 133 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: fourteen wins plus with two teams, four thousand yards, two 134 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: teams in a row, and now a Super Bowl ring. 135 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Sam Donald has turned the story around and eternally. When 136 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: you talk about Super Bowl winners. We got to talk 137 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: about him because he's got the same he's got more 138 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: than Dan Marino. He's got the same as Aaron Rodgers, 139 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: and he's got the same as Matthew Stafford and a 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: whole bunch of other would be. 141 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: The only difference is he wasn't the reason that they won. 142 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: And that and you can poop poo it or discount it. 143 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: That was all set up for him to write the 144 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: Ultimate Disney movie, okay, because that would have been and 145 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: it was on the table for him. Like you said, 146 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: they moved the ball. There were situations in circumstance. What 147 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: he did was he wasn't able to completely erase doubt 148 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: a lot of people watching that first half set there 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: it is that Sam Donald can't get in the end zone. 150 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: It should be twenty one nothing. Instead it's nine to nothing. Uh, 151 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: he's letting the Patriots still be in the game because 152 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: he couldn't finish the job. It would it would tell 153 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: me if he would have gotten some touchdowns early on, 154 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: he would have. 155 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 3: Won the MVP. 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: And then you don't really have an argument, but everybody 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: talks about it. When ESPN on their main page put 158 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: up that that the Seahawks had won. Sam Donald's not 159 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: in that picture. But that's the Sam Donald's not in 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: that picture because he was on the wagon. He wasn't 161 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: driving the wagon. And that's the difference. So there will 162 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: still be people like yours truly who will look at 163 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 4: him as Scam Donald, not Sam Donald, because he scammed 164 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: his way into a super Bowl. 165 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: So let me say this, you're under selling the ability 166 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: to just do your job and to not for sure 167 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: his job, and to not be the reason that literally 168 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: had been the thing people said. He doesn't win as 169 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: he turns it over with it matters, crunch. 170 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: On, I'll give you. 171 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: But did you think he played fine? Okay, he played 172 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 4: mad as you would say. 173 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: Well not to see, no, not when it mattered. That's 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: what we'll disagree. 175 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Ten for sixteen one hundred and fourteen yards and the 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: touchdowns some key runs, no no, no, but see that. 177 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 5: But that's where that's. 178 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: When here's with me and you were different because you 179 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: talk about Caleb doesn't pass for a fifty more than 180 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 4: fifty percent. I tell you about the big throw to 181 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: win the game, And now you're saying you don't care 182 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: that you don't care that he threw for a miss 183 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 4: fifty percent of his throws as long as he made 184 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: the key ones and won the game. So which one 185 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: is our answer to that? Okay, which one is it? 186 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: Number one? This is the super Bowl, this is a winter. 187 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. 188 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: That's a massiveness. It doesn't number two. I just said 189 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: he was fine. You come in and act like kaylab 190 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: was the greatest thing sinceays Brandon. 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It's gonna be some smoke when I 224 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 5: see somebody. 225 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 6: There's gonna be some smoke for Kevin Durant, that's Jalo sure, 226 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 6: because he after their game last night, a loss to 227 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 6: the Clippers, Kawhi Leonard aspire LLC and all them boys 228 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 6: went in there and put Belta ass on the Rockets. 229 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 6: And after the game, of course, the All Star Game 230 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 6: is coming up in about seventy two hours. All Star 231 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 6: Weekend starts in about a day and a half, yep, 232 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 6: and everybody's talking about like, hey, how are we going 233 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 6: to fix the All Star Game? This new form, what 234 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 6: are we gonna do? And ultimately what it seems to 235 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 6: comes down to is if guys just play hard, we'll 236 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 6: have a great All Star Game experience. Well, Kevin Durant 237 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 6: was asked about that last night and he seemed to 238 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 6: take it kind of personally. Take a listen, I saw 239 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 6: you saw the rosters were revealed and said, you're on 240 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 6: the Old Heads team. Do you think the Old Heads 241 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 6: will compete and try to win the whole tournament? 242 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 5: Here? 243 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 8: You should ask the Europeans if the World team, if 244 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 8: they're gonna compete. I mean, because we look at Luka, 245 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 8: Doncis and Nicole Jokis. Now let's go back and look 246 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 8: at what they do at the All Star Game. 247 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: Is that competition? 248 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 8: So we haven't questioned what they've been doing, but we're 249 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 8: gonna question Old His in the Americans but these two 250 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 8: dudes out there, Luca and Yokis, they don't care about 251 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 8: the game. 252 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 7: Man. 253 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 8: Oh, these dudes be laying on the floor. They shoot 254 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 8: from half court. But you got worried about the old 255 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 8: heads playing hard. I can read between the lines, bro. 256 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you and you could read between the lines, 257 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: and you be wrong, because guess what, even before those 258 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: guys showed up and became what's called this has stopped 259 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: a long time ago. This didn't stop since Luca and 260 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: the Joker showed up. You guys have stopped playing way 261 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: before that. You really haven't. When Lebron checked out of this, 262 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and people follow the leader less. 263 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: He's the face of the NBA. When he checked out 264 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: of this, a lot of players checked out. They didn't 265 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 4: want to compete. People told you, talked about it yesterday 266 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: when Kobe picked up Lebron at full at the half 267 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: court right, and Lebron immediately gave up the ball and 268 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 4: was like, I want no part of this, dude. 269 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: That was strange that a All Star game sided Kobe 270 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: slaps the ground. 271 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 5: He's ready to go. Let's go. 272 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: Everybody stands up, even the players stood on the bench, 273 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: all right, let's let's see our moment what he passed. 274 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: They didn't double team nothing. He just that was that 275 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: was strange Canda. 276 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: Ny but but but that's where I think Kevin Durant 277 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: is missing. The point is that uh NBA fans have 278 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: felt cheated for a while now and it ain't gonna 279 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: be the European the Johnny cum latelies, they're a big 280 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: part of the league. I get what Kevin Durant's saying. 281 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: They don't set the tone. The American players set the 282 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: tone in the NBA. KD, what are you talking about? 283 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: Can you replay any interviews from Luka Doncic or from 284 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: the Joker. 285 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 3: They're not saying anything about the NBA. 286 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: Nobody goes and ask them what why? It's about the 287 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: American players. You set the standard. This is an American league. 288 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: If you were playing in Europe, they wouldn't go to 289 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: UKD and ask you this is about America. And this 290 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: is why you get the smoke O. This is your league. 291 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: This is our league in the United States. Even in 292 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: the baseball, nobody's going to Old Tani to ask him 293 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: what's Major League Baseball? 294 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: Are you kidding? 295 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: Hey, Old TOHNI, Why aren't they black fans in the stands. 296 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 5: Oh, he definitely gonna get an interpreted for that. 297 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, That's not how it works. 298 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: Come on, man, don't pass the buck. Answer the damn question. KD. 299 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: Stop passing the buck to guys who came over to 300 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: this country just to play basketball. They didn't invent the league. 301 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 4: You guys gave up the league. You stop having passion, 302 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: you stop playing hard. 303 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: You gave up the MVP. 304 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: We haven't had an MVP and American MVP since Luisi 305 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 4: had a purchase. You got the nerve to want to 306 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: pass the buck. Own it if you want to do it. 307 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: Tell the fans blake you, we don't care about you, 308 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: because that's the message that the fans got. 309 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: They're not running to Luca or gonna run to the 310 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: to the Joker and say what about you guy from Europe? 311 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: How come you're not playing hard? 312 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 4: Because when you checked out KD and all of your contemporaries, 313 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: that's when the rest of the league checked out. If 314 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: you took the game seriously, you think the Joker and 315 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: Luca would get out on the court. 316 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: And not play. 317 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: That's the part right there, Ron, That's the part I agree. 318 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: If you watch Luca, Luca looks lazy as ever out there. 319 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: We all know Joker rather be with his horses. However, 320 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: there are twenty four guys give or taken an All 321 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: Star Game, and if the other twenty two were going hard, 322 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: if the other twenty two were playing that top you 323 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: know for you know, three quarters effort, absolutely they would 324 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: fall in line or you know what they would do. Coach, 325 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I just think about just keep me 326 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: out and they wouldn't be on the floor. So absolutely 327 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: they can set the tone. And a couple of things too. 328 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time. Right now, it's 329 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: the Winner Olympics on TV. Let me tell you a 330 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: country that don't play about their particular sport, Canada. What 331 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: sport don't they play about? Rob They don't play about hockey. 332 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: That's their sport. They take it very seriously and they 333 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: don't get they don't want to lose it. Whenever they 334 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: have the American versus Canada or other countries, they want 335 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: to compete, they want to play. So yes, I get 336 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: his point that lucas one of the best players, and 337 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: Yo Kisch is one of the best players, and yes 338 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: they are mister All Star Game type of players per se. However, 339 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: you all set the tone. This is an American game. 340 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: There's a reason why those guys even play because we 341 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: set the tone back in ninety two with the Dream Team. 342 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: We set the tone. We kind of reset the parameters 343 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: of what basketball is supposed to be. We set out 344 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: our best, we win out there, we balled over and 345 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: the whole world said, oh shoot, that's basketball, and we 346 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: reset the tone for what basketball is supposed to be. 347 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, that's how you get 348 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: all these baby birthday in it and Yo Kich and 349 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: Lucas and so on. So absolutely KD knows what people 350 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: are saying, because Katie loves basketball maybe more than just 351 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: about anybody in the NBA, So he knows what people 352 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: are asking for is what we see every summer on 353 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: my youtubes and my instagrams and what's that Rob, What 354 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: I see at UCLA pickup games, what we see at 355 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: the Rutger games. When KD pulls up, what we say 356 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: all these summer league games and lifetime fitness, and what 357 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: we're saying is elite competition. That's all people are asking for. 358 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: They want people to go in there and compete. Nobody's 359 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: asking you like it's life or death, but we're asking 360 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: nobody wants you to get injured something. But he knows 361 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: what we're referring to because he of all people, we 362 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: see him playing the summers, We see him playing the 363 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: league at the league, So you know what we're asking for. 364 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: You all set the tone, especially the old head, because 365 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: you guys are the last leaders before you guys call 366 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: it quit, so we want to see the tone be 367 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: set by them. 368 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 369 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com 370 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 371 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: Chris Paul is done. 372 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know if this is breaking news because 373 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 6: he's kind of been done for a few months now 374 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 6: at this point, but it is official, like a referee 375 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 6: with the whistle. Chris Paul has retired from the NBA 376 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 6: after twenty one seasons. He was famously sent home by 377 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 6: the Los Angeles Clippers at the end of last year 378 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 6: because he was beefing with ty Lou wasn't speaking to him. 379 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 6: They had just had it enough to hear with them, 380 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 6: so they sent him home. They traded him unceremoniously to 381 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 6: the Raptors about a week and a half ago. The 382 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 6: Raptors tried to reroute him, they couldn't, so they waved him. 383 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 6: And then Chris Paul was like, you know what, rather 384 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 6: than hang on for whatever last twenty five games of 385 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 6: the season, let me just call it a career. 386 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: CP three, the point. 387 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: Guard retired and. 388 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: Kel At this point, there's waves of going out twenty 389 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: one years in the NBA, and you know, we always 390 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: talk about it, is it good luck or good riddance 391 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: for Chris Paul? 392 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: I think is good riddance? 393 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: Stuck around too long the way he was dumped in 394 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: a place that you know, this Lob City, and he 395 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: had all this love. He was coming back to go 396 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 4: out a certain way right and have people feel good 397 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: about him and all that. He lost that because of 398 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: whatever shenanigans that he did with the Clippers to turn 399 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: people off to him. 400 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: And I'm just being honest. I've covered the league for 401 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: a long time. 402 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: We know what a player he is, but he rubbed 403 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: people the wrong way along the way. And that's a 404 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: long road twenty one NBA seasons and what happens is 405 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: people put up with a lot of stuff. When you 406 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 4: can play and make a difference, right as soon as 407 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: you can't. 408 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: Do that, those days are over. 409 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: People aren't going to put up with the rubbing people 410 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: the wrong way, treating people a certain way or whatnot. 411 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: And I think that's why the Clippers the middle of 412 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: the night they had to fly in, remember that, right 413 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 4: the middle of the night, to tell him to pack 414 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: his bags and get out of here. I mean that 415 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: speaks volume, especially for a guy who played in the 416 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: organization for a long time, had some success. Put that 417 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: organization with lob City on the map in NBA America, and. 418 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: That's the way it ended. So that that's on. 419 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Chris paul I put it like this, Chris Paul is, 420 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: let's say he had twenty one years. 421 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna split it up in a twenty. Let's say 422 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: it's ten and ten. 423 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: He's the most interesting of his peers, if you will, 424 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: and that Lebron, we already know he's number one, number two, 425 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: number three, where if you play m but we already 426 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: know his greatness. 427 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 5: You are, Steph. 428 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: We already say, the great greatest shooter of all time, 429 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: one of the best players like you kind of know. 430 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: Steps He got a bunch of rings, you kind of 431 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: know where he is, so on and so forth. Dwayne 432 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Wade's got a few rings. You kind of can place 433 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: people in certain places. Chris Paul. The reason why Rob 434 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: Gus said point God because he was the first person 435 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: we started to call the point God. Right, you had magic, 436 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: you heard that, you had other great point guards, but 437 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: he was the one we really started to say that with. 438 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: He was the first ten years. He couldn't been more lovable, Right, 439 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: He's the small guy that's playing great in New Orleans 440 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: and in turn Oklahoma City because they had, you know, 441 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: all the whole the Hurricane Katrina, so on and so forth. 442 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: Then he's the guy that comes to Love City and 443 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: he's they're great, they're fun, they're entertaining, they're a sexy 444 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: pick four handful of seasons to win it all. 445 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 5: He asked. 446 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: The one of the best campaigns for an athlete commercial wise, 447 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: with the Cliff Paul and the State farms. 448 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 5: So he's just he's that guy. It's parential All Star. 449 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: He's finishing in the top three for MVP a couple 450 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: of times, and you're like, woll, he's that guy. One 451 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: thing started to change when he and that Love City 452 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: team started to fail in the postseason, and not just 453 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: fail like all we couldn't get it done, but collapse right. 454 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: They started to give up leads and series. They started 455 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: to have epic choke jobs. Things started to change about 456 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: him then in the last ten years, to your point, 457 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: it went from lovable Cliff Chris and Cliff Paul Love 458 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: Cities commercials. One of the best passers in the league, 459 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: one of the best players to man, do they choke 460 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: many's he always injured? 461 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: Man, they always come up short. Man. He became a 462 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 5: journey man. Dang, he's a dirty player. Man. 463 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Didn't get along with his teammates. I wonder why he's 464 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: always leaving these places. And it's just been interesting to 465 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: see the two split. Like I said, if you go 466 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: the first ten or so years, in the last ten 467 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: or so years of Chris Paul, it has been remarkable 468 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: to witness. And he's been spectacular. He ranks number two 469 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: off time in both assists and steals. He's the first 470 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: player with twenty thousand points, ten thousand assists, and he's just. 471 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 5: Had a very decorated career. 472 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: But for me to see him go from just loved 473 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: and respected and one of the right up there with 474 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: his Peers and the Lebron, the d Wade's, the you 475 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: know those guys kds to now kind of becoming an 476 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: after thought. 477 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 5: It's been shocking to me. He was one of my 478 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: favorite players to watch. 479 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: He always made teams better, but they're always to your point, 480 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: would be some weird. 481 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: Riff with teams. 482 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: It team at the end, like it would start off good, 483 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: they win, they'd be successful, then it would end badly. 484 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: Uh So. 485 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: I think as time gets away, will be more reflective 486 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: on his career and how great he was. 487 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: But it is really odd. 488 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: To me, Rob He's one of those just rare players 489 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: where you can see the divide. 490 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 5: And I also wonder you covered the league. 491 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: This was a big Hughes thing, one of the great 492 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: what would have been of all time in the NBA. 493 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: If David Stern okay that trade and as I've never 494 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: seen before him block a trade and if he would 495 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: have paired up in Tindo with Kobe, how that might 496 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: have changed the trajectory of his career. 497 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you also got to remember the league owned 498 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: the team at the time. 499 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: That was the only asset of the team. 500 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 5: I don't no, no, I don't. 501 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't do it just to do it. 502 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, but I mean, if I told you, 503 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm giving you Pau Gasol Hall of Famer Lamar Odelman 504 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: six Man of the Year. 505 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 5: Excuse me, you think you'd be all right with that? 506 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: So it's just interesting how it all ended up for 507 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: Chris Paul versus where it started. 508 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 5: Good luck of good riddance, where are you? Good luck? 509 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: Excuse me? Good luck? All right? 510 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. I just think 511 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: the way it ended. 512 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: Remember, everybody was ready to crown Chris Paul when they 513 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: were up two to zero in the NBA Finals, the 514 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: Sons and the Bucks. 515 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 5: They never won another game. 516 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 4: That kind of also changed the way people looked at 517 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 4: them because they were doing a coronation. It was all 518 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: about Chris Paul and how great he was and looking 519 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: it is, he finally passed Isaiah Thomas and all these 520 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 4: other people they were talking about, and I think that 521 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 4: went I just think the way he went out, there 522 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: was no way Chris Paul should have gone out that 523 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: way with the Clippers, which tells you that that that 524 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: that says a lot to me. 525 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: That's what I mean that really does. 526 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: Right the middle of the night, they have to fly 527 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 4: from California to wherever they were in a row to 528 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: say Okay, pack your back, we need you to get 529 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: out of here. Wow.