WEBVTT - CONVOS ABOUT TRAFFICKING

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>loaw glasses Malone. So yeah, it's the point I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is like, they raided cous house on the behest of

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<v Speaker 1>a possible sex trafficking case. Right, yeah, ready, cous house

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<v Speaker 1>in Beverly Hills. They raided cougs house in Miami, and

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<v Speaker 1>sex trafficking on a federal level, bro, is really some shit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. No, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the real deal. That's the ship that puts

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<v Speaker 2>you away forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me read y'all. The definition sex trafficking is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, patronizing,

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<v Speaker 1>or soliciting of a person for the purposes of a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial sex act, in which the commercial sex act is

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<v Speaker 1>induced by force, fraud, or coersion, or in which the

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<v Speaker 1>person induced the person induced to perform such an act

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<v Speaker 1>has not attained eighteen years of age. So it's really loose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a dense definition.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were asking me, why did I think I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure did he did it? Or why did I

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<v Speaker 1>think he didn't do it? I said, because the commercial

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<v Speaker 1>sex act part right, Like I heard the Cassie you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I seen the Cassie layout of a civil case, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was saying he forced her to have sex

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<v Speaker 1>with other people right for his enjoyment. Right, But then

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<v Speaker 1>the term force right, What are we saying did he

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<v Speaker 1>threaten her to say? Like, let me ask you a question,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete if if you say, hey, man, I like the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck girls. I like to. I like to. I like to.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the word when you have sex with a girl? Anneally?

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<v Speaker 1>Side of eyes? I like to side of mize my women.

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<v Speaker 1>She like, well, I don't like that. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Well, if you want to be with me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? This is how I like

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<v Speaker 1>my sex. And she chooses to be with you, right

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<v Speaker 1>and let you do it even though she she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it. And see, that's where it gets

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<v Speaker 1>crazy on the concept of willingness, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's still it's still to me, it's willful even

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to do it. And I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I am actually at state being with me. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I like. But by that federal standard, by

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<v Speaker 1>that federal statue, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That can be considered coercion or for that opens every

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<v Speaker 3>woman who's ever asked for anything to be bought to her.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever, And this is my point into extortion at the

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<v Speaker 4>And that's.

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<v Speaker 1>My point, bro, And I'm glad you said that, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I was trying to get when I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to some of my peoples in the conversation. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>like even in the in the in the Harvey Weinstein thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, if you want this job, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to watch me jack off as weird and creepy as

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<v Speaker 1>that ship is. I don't know if that's a force,

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<v Speaker 1>because the option when it is late, the option is

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<v Speaker 1>very much yours right or like. But then I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like men use power and money to get what they

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<v Speaker 1>want out of a woman. Women use beauty and.

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<v Speaker 2>Sex sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the vanity of it, all right, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a stat of the man and woman dynamic outside of

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<v Speaker 1>my fold.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like the preface in chapter one of like

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Green's Art of Seduction, like dating.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to early like early historic man.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it and I think it changes and

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<v Speaker 5>people take it differently. Once the person has a quote

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<v Speaker 5>unquote power money, it's like it's like, well, that happens

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<v Speaker 5>in the regular ship, Like that happens all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure, like just outside, like in somebody house right now, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you ain't fuck with me, if you ain't sucking.

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<v Speaker 1>About buying, you get up out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I ain't doing all that like but it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>ain't nothing like Okay, I'll do it. He didn't force it.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you got a position to where you can change,

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<v Speaker 5>somebody left, I mean life, you know, at least they

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<v Speaker 5>believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>It changed the whole game.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody said to me. They were saying, because I've been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been accused of being like an R Kelly supporter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not right. This is how I see R Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro Somebody said, well, y'all act like R Kelly. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>ever thought R Kelly was innocent. There's no person walking

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<v Speaker 1>the earth that did not think R Kelly was not

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with women that were under the legal age of consent.

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<v Speaker 1>We all knew he married a Leah in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>We all knew he pissed on that fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>girl in real time, But at that time, the mind

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<v Speaker 1>state was different on how we saw men and women dynamics. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little looser thirty years ago or thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years before that, or thirty years before that, because lord knows,

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<v Speaker 1>half of these niggas Grandpa would be in jail, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, because they had a different mind

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<v Speaker 1>state then it was, they didn't. You know, Over time,

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<v Speaker 1>sophistication comes in and we start to expect more from

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<v Speaker 1>human beings as some sophisticated life of you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>sophisticated form of life. We demand a greater sense of

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<v Speaker 1>excellence right where it's like, well you have to wait

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<v Speaker 1>until she eighteen bro before you get before she can

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<v Speaker 1>legally consent to sleep with you. But back to my

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<v Speaker 1>point is, I don't think none of us ever thought

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<v Speaker 1>or R Kelly was in it. Not one person thought

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<v Speaker 1>R Kelly was innocent. But you know what happened. It

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<v Speaker 1>went from him being right breaking the law when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to having sex with a what is it called,

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<v Speaker 1>uh like a statutory statutory rape, to trafficking. And because

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<v Speaker 1>the federal version of that law, even the Man Act,

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<v Speaker 1>the Man Act, was a racist law used against Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson one hundred years ago, one hundred plus years ago

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<v Speaker 1>for taking white women across state line to fights and

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<v Speaker 1>fuck them, you know what I'm saying. So they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to put racketeering charges. Right, he should have went

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<v Speaker 1>to jail because the federal violation law that was obvious

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<v Speaker 1>that he violated was the Child Pornography Act, where you

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<v Speaker 1>take if you record sleeping with a woman less than

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old, it's a child pornography Act. That shit

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<v Speaker 1>carry I think sixty ten years or somewhere roughly around there. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But because of the false outrage of TV shows that

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<v Speaker 1>created around the space of conversation you I mean and

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<v Speaker 1>turn that villainized him past exactly what he was. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>ever thought or Kelly forced anybody. That's something nobody never thought.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he was in charged with rape. Right, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>thought he forced anybody. We all thought he liked young women,

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<v Speaker 1>and that shit is against the law in some of

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<v Speaker 1>these states. Some of these states is less than six

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<v Speaker 1>like some of these states are sixteen more states in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States of America, the legal age of con

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<v Speaker 1>center sixteen than it is eighteen or seventeen. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>we all knew he was guilty of statutory rape, and

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<v Speaker 1>even on a federal level, he would be guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>the Child Pornography Act, right, But none of us thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was trafficking women because we have a decent understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of what trafficking women is in relating to commercial sex acts.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were able to hit him with that because

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<v Speaker 1>of the public outrage. They were able to hit him

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<v Speaker 1>with the Man Act because of the fake public outrage. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They were able to hit him with a racketeering charge

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<v Speaker 1>because of the fake public outrage, and he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>with more time than Sammy de Boy Gravano who killed

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen people. This is my problem, bro, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>fucking drives me crazy. It's like we keep letting him

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Like people are mentioning, did he cuz with

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epsteincuz had an island of crime?

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<v Speaker 5>They gonna do that though, Bro, that's that dude. They

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<v Speaker 5>the Internet man. People on the Internet, man, they extremists.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think they extremists as much as they're

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<v Speaker 1>just shouting. It's not even out of any sense. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all a false competition. And that's my point, right. Like

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<v Speaker 1>people was asking me about Diddy, I'm like, look, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>are we saying I don't have to agree with his

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<v Speaker 1>life morally? Man? If I got into a moral conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with most people, they would be telling me what I

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<v Speaker 1>do as a crypy. Oh you're a crip, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>would agree with that, y'all. Killy, y'all kill other black people. Nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with you drinking alcohol. That's how serious, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with you smoking tobacco. Niggas, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. You want to go down a list of

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<v Speaker 1>dumb ass shit that I don't agree with human beings doing. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>like the list of shit that I see human beings doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like, that's dumb niggas doing drugs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not judging Puff morally. I don't give a fuck

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<v Speaker 1>which deal Doughcuz left in the bathroom. I don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>fuck which one of these niggas he was fucking. If

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<v Speaker 1>he was fucking one of these niggas. Listen, it's simple,

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<v Speaker 1>no sellings, gl my nigga, Pete in the house. I

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<v Speaker 1>got Joey back for y'all. Know y'all like Joey, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>think he crazy, so I got him back. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that now we're judging him morally. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, well, I hate him so much. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Puff ain't did nothing for nobody to hate cuz

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<v Speaker 1>Puff not. Now nigga, Puff is against everybody scared of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and niggas is not scared of puff Dog. Nah, do

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<v Speaker 1>I think Puff is capable of doing some bullshit? Sure

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<v Speaker 1>he got some money. Do I think Puff is a

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<v Speaker 1>type of nigga that's gonna walk up on the street

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<v Speaker 1>and try a man man? Fuck No, that ain't his style. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>He not gonna let you bully his motherfucking family. He

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stand up for himself what I mean? But he

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<v Speaker 1>ain't something motherfuckers who perped us. And now to why

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<v Speaker 1>people sit back and act like the justice system in

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<v Speaker 1>some all sense of righteousness, like oh yeah, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know they fears don't come unless they got all evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga ain't not even coming to They didn't even say

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<v Speaker 1>they had an arrest warrant. They said they were raiding

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<v Speaker 1>his house based off the possibility of a sex trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>game and they had their guns draw Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had their guns drawing because he had.

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<v Speaker 2>So what the hell?

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<v Speaker 5>Like if you if you raiding his house for possible

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<v Speaker 5>sex trafficking, Like what the fuck they looking for tapes.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, because women and then like tied up

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<v Speaker 5>like what it seemed like at this point, it just

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<v Speaker 5>seemed like they got an agenda and it's working.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point, they're pretty much raiding the house for

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<v Speaker 3>electronic devices.

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<v Speaker 4>If I had to make guests, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is well this commercial act. And if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial act of someone under the age of eighteen, well

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<v Speaker 1>I think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think I think it's any act under the age of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean sex trafficking, yeah, we as.

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<v Speaker 4>You, yeah, but like you don't have to if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Transport a minor to have sex, it doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 3>be commercial for that to be trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>And so maybe that's the part we don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's some seventeen year old girl, right, he had you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, and he flew to another state

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<v Speaker 1>and they had sex. I mean she was seventeen or

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<v Speaker 1>not and they had sex, you feel me, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they have, then that would be sex trafficking. But

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<v Speaker 1>again I wouldn't I'd be really careful, like I see.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing about a federal law. It's left

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<v Speaker 1>really open, so they can really position the law how

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<v Speaker 1>they want. It's not stable. It's really like the times

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<v Speaker 1>it is black and white, like on drugs, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>if you get caught with this much dope, your ads

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<v Speaker 1>going to jail for this much time rights that is,

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<v Speaker 1>but on a lot of those type of rico charges,

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<v Speaker 1>trafficing charges, it's really open. And coersion is very much

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<v Speaker 1>like a motherfucking like an interpretation word.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, coercion.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with coercion is it can be defined as

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<v Speaker 3>carrot or stick, and then people only think about it

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<v Speaker 3>in the stick sense, but it can be also existing

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<v Speaker 3>in the carrots sense, like the Weinstein that's a carrot thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Suck my dick, I'll put you in that TV show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not suck my dick or I'm gonna knock off

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<v Speaker 3>your kneecap.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? Right, it cuts both ways

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<v Speaker 4>from zero.

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<v Speaker 2>And you ain't gotta suck the dick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like you don't need the job, go back to

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<v Speaker 4>the cashier gig you had before.

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<v Speaker 1>Co Ers to persuade to do something by using force

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<v Speaker 1>of threats.

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<v Speaker 2>So so they can you don't get that.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not gonna get this job if you don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it's like it's so like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>As if you had the job locked up beforehand, which

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<v Speaker 3>is the part that isn't true. Like there's a menu

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<v Speaker 3>of people trying to apply for this, to get cast

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<v Speaker 3>for this position. We haven't chosen one yet. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't suck my dick, you're going to be out

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<v Speaker 3>of contention.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, that's that's I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>To feel about that, bro. Like, because I've watched human

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<v Speaker 1>beings for years. You something that somebody else wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get what they want. Like, while I've never done it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not my forte, right, but I've watched human beings

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<v Speaker 1>do that forever. I watched it beautiful do it with

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<v Speaker 1>beauty in the pursuit of you know, physical intimacy. For

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<v Speaker 1>me and I watch men do it for money for money.

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<v Speaker 5>We're watching it. We're watching niggas do it right now

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<v Speaker 5>for money. Yeah, all day on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>So even in a Cassie case, because I've read through it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember every part of it. Listen, if

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<v Speaker 1>he had some woman, if he had some if he

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<v Speaker 1>told Cassie, Hey, so let's let's agree. Let's let's agree

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<v Speaker 1>on something, right, Let's let's let's come to some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of agreement. Let's say he told Cassie, hey, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a cuk a a motherfucking cup. I like my girl

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<v Speaker 1>getting nailed by another man. And she's like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't like that. I just want to sleep with you.

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<v Speaker 1>He like, look, this is what I like it. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be me, this is what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you not, then if we're not gonna be together.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we calling that coercion? Are we saying if he

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<v Speaker 1>say like, I'm gonna beat your ass to do this, like,

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<v Speaker 1>where does it stand for you? Like Pete, where does

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<v Speaker 1>it stand for you?

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<v Speaker 4>To me?

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be an escapable physical threat with time,

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<v Speaker 3>sense of activity of the immediate variety. Not I know

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<v Speaker 3>you've grown accustomed to this lifestyle and it would be

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<v Speaker 3>a shame if something happened to your financial lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 4>Wink wink, nod, nod.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not be a shame if you have to go

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<v Speaker 3>get a fucking job, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not what about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Joy?

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<v Speaker 1>Where you staying with it?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm kind of with that on the same thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to be some like physical like a real

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<v Speaker 5>threat like things that we consider real threats.

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<v Speaker 2>Danger not yet like danger not like.

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<v Speaker 4>Or a shame if you found yourself driving a camera tomorrow, wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>It you You interpreting that I have power because I

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<v Speaker 5>am who I am and you may have heard something

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<v Speaker 5>about me or whatever the case may be. So you like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh I forced you, are cohersed you or something like

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<v Speaker 5>that because you you're aware of.

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<v Speaker 2>My alleged past. You know, it's like I'm gonna slap

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<v Speaker 2>the shit out of you if you don't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, okay, just like, hey, nigga, you damn nigga added

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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of it's kind of crazy threat.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage,

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<v Speaker 1>or other hostile action on someone and retribution for something

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<v Speaker 1>done or not done.

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<v Speaker 3>See this is where I was going here real quick

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<v Speaker 3>with that. It just falls into the definition, is what

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<v Speaker 3>the definition is. But like, especially in the modern climate,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna get dangerously.

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<v Speaker 2>Unavoidable to.

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<v Speaker 1>Deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>The emotional abuse aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well you don't want to do this, well fine,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go fuck Susie Q from my Instagram at box.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bring her down here right now. She'll come through,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem. And that creates an emotional trauma for the

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<v Speaker 3>girl who for Cassie, who's the girlfriend, because she hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>liked the idea of her man fucking this other girl.

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<v Speaker 3>And no, no, no, no no, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Threat you with emotionally abusive actions.

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<v Speaker 5>That worked a lot, and that shit will work and

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<v Speaker 5>people will be on her side.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga Vance said, I don't honestly don't know. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>if flying an escort from Phoenix to LA to fuck

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<v Speaker 1>is illegal, I know mad niggas that are going to jail,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Van, that's definitely illegal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's like superup illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like way more than even prostitution. That's that's actually trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually it's funny to what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, but which is normal as that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the same as like hosting a babe. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>same statement as being like, well, if having two ounces

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<v Speaker 3>of code because of a giant crime, I know a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of people have done that before. Well yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just a giant crime.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but he asked, he was asking for the

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<v Speaker 1>sake of prostitution versus trafficking, And I'm like, that's trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>prostitutions hard.

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<v Speaker 3>They've expanded the definition of prostitution. It's pretty much it

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<v Speaker 3>if you if you take the bitch from the hotel

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<v Speaker 3>to the street corner, you traffickedor yeah, if if you

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<v Speaker 3>if you pull up and and you wave the bitch

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<v Speaker 3>from the curb to the passenger seat you traffickedor from

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<v Speaker 3>the curb to the passenger.

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<v Speaker 1>Seat, right and and and that's my point is like, look.

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<v Speaker 2>And it'll get that petty. It'll get that petty.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially with the But but they couldn't make that work.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't make that work without public outrage, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Because if we're conscious of what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be like, hold up, hey, o nog y'all stop

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<v Speaker 1>that that's prob We would force them as a society.

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<v Speaker 2>To public opinion convicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. And it's getting people, it's getting people investigated. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not real, bro, These are like these are not

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<v Speaker 1>true threats to public safety. Puff is not a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>true threat to public safety. Like we outraged in him,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it was more outrage on Puff than Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I don't and I don't support it. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't support Like, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't think that that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro, there there was an enormous amount of outrage on

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<v Speaker 3>on Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>That no, no, no, no, Harvey Weinstein.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Weinstein.

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<v Speaker 1>That ship was yeah, that shit was everywhere, and people were.

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<v Speaker 3>More about Epstein being killed. I don't think that there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of talking. That ship was so weird

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<v Speaker 3>that that that guy's ship was so muffled.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm until he got wise because whoever was fucking

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<v Speaker 1>because with that little ship, that little weirdo ship that

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing, it's real power.

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<v Speaker 4>Power, I would say, powerful people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So again it's like listen, if puff broke the law

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<v Speaker 1>right for real, right, then justice is fair in society

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<v Speaker 1>and I would understand it, like just like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the kills thing, I got it if he

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<v Speaker 1>got ten years. But my problem is when you railroad

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<v Speaker 1>him and then we're like, well shit, we don't care

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<v Speaker 1>that nigga was a nuisance. It's like, bro, don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't do that. Like, yes, he should be in

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<v Speaker 1>prison for crimes that he committed in a society because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how justice worked. But everything ain't all, it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>balls off on because it ain't just do anything to

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<v Speaker 1>him because he's just this horrible person, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a fucked up person and he died. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep it justice, justice, because that's what they would do

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<v Speaker 1>to other Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I mean, this is right here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is basically the Eighth Amendment issue about all the

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump shiit. I mean, like he's the best example

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<v Speaker 3>of language interpretation and bizarre targeting of weird obscure life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even a fact of like the deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the most of Trump's cases, it's not did he do

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<v Speaker 3>it or not. It hasn't been adjudicated with precedents as

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<v Speaker 3>to whether that is or is not even a crime.

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<v Speaker 3>He's being convicted on stuff that's gonna get dumped in

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<v Speaker 3>appeal when it's determined that it's not even a crime,

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<v Speaker 3>not that the evidence with gas with badly, not that

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<v Speaker 3>it blah blah blah blah blah, that it simply yeah

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<v Speaker 3>he did that, and you know, quite frankly, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>not a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think society realizes the power of outrage

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<v Speaker 1>of socially talking about something specifically like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they do because for most people they just going to

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<v Speaker 1>live in their life, but they forget these are real

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<v Speaker 1>consequences for real people. And it goes back like to

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<v Speaker 1>that jay Z line where people have look. I hear

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<v Speaker 1>so many people telling me, oh man, glasses, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how people be. They tell me the mind state

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<v Speaker 1>of a hater, like I hear people, well, you know, Glass,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it is when niggas be hating on you,

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<v Speaker 1>because niggas they have these grand scheme when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the way a hater feel, and they'll just be

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down how haters feel. And I will ask him like,

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<v Speaker 1>cuz you ever hated on somebody?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't, never did that. Well, how do you know this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Who where did you get this discernment or this lesson?

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<v Speaker 1>And hater? One on one like, how do you know how?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Glass, you know, when niggas get too much money,

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<v Speaker 1>they start thinking they could do anything. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>got too much money and thought you'd do anything?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how do you know when a nigga get too

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<v Speaker 1>much money how he feels.

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<v Speaker 5>They've read it, heard somebody else say it, and just

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<v Speaker 5>regurgitate that.

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<v Speaker 1>A group thought. It's all group thought. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>just say it again and they say it again and

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<v Speaker 1>it could cost somebody their life. Listen, Cuz if Puff

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<v Speaker 1>did that shit, then Puff got he got to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the society that he is a part of. Right cool,

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<v Speaker 1>That's how that worked. But man, he already convicted, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was explaining to them, because like, bro, like, it

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter if he was not if it came out

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<v Speaker 1>he was not guilty. His career is over. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't understand it. They really, well, no, it

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<v Speaker 1>ain't I'm like, bro, it's over, Like yeah, man, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. Michael Jackson's music career was over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they humiliated him and to this day people saying

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<v Speaker 2>he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is so many of these contracts work

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<v Speaker 1>on moral standards, on them judging your behavior.

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<v Speaker 5>But see that's information you privy too, right Bay, and

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<v Speaker 5>not just because you're in the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have read that, right. But they don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about none of that. Man. They are he guilty in

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes.

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<v Speaker 5>So as soon as the allegations came out, guilty, like

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<v Speaker 5>they glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you know all these years, Glasses, all these years

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<v Speaker 1>we've been hearing shit. Puff. I'm like, well, what have

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you heard about Puff all these years because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear what you heard. I have never in my life

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<v Speaker 1>heard Puff was a gangster. Now I'm not saying there

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<v Speaker 1>ain't some niggas saying Puff is a gangster. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. No nigga that said Puff is no gangster,

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<v Speaker 1>not her Puff as a man. I'm just starting to

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>hear more shit about Puff this whole time. Like over

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the last three or four years, I'm hearing about more

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>tough shit Puff did in his entire life than I've

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>ever heard in MIAs about.

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 5>It's about to come out. Now, it's all coming out.

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 5>He did this, he gets set this person up. He

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 5>slapped this person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh he got no. He punched on Drake, right,

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's Drake. No disrespect to to Drake. But like nigga,

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't get no points punching Drake. He got into

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>a ship with Ja Cole. Nigga, you don't get no

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:55.959
<v Speaker 1>points choking Jake Cole, not amongst other dudes that's masculine

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>or in the streets at all. We not gonna look

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>at Drake. We're gonna look at Drake as a talented musician.

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>That's a kid from Canada, that's thirty seven, Like, I

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even fucking fight Drake. It's fucking Drake. I wouldn't

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>fight j Cole Brodies are like talented rapper. Like. So,

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where this whole thing came from. Now

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to hear more shit. I didn't hear none

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of this shit at first. The closest shit I heard

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to some Gasha shit was Puff putting the hit out

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>on Tupac. That is it. Oh, he was supposed to

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>post them. He was gonna give them some money. That's

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the closest thing I've heard. I never that too.

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>People believe that too.

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>But I've never in any other years, all these years

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>since I heard a Cuz since nineteen ninety one ninety two,

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>heard Cuz doing no bunch of tough ass shit. Never.

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why it's always surprising to me when Cuz ended

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>up in some tough ass shit, when he was arguing

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>with that actor on the corner, dressed like the joker,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I just was surprised, Like.

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Damne, look at Puff, fink he tough, right.

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm so when people say to me because years

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and years of Puff, I'm like, years and years of

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Puff doing what Puff never been like that, Oh well

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>he blew that dude car up. Nigga, You fucking my bitch,

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna blow your fucking car up. Damn is wrong

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>with you? I don't think you gotta be tough to

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>blow nobody nigga fucking yo, Broad imagine might sleep with

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>your wife, Joe, you might blow they fucking car up. Yeah, man,

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe ship you gotta be what if it's a nigga, you.

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Know I'm carp.

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that makes you tough. Because somebody knocking

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>your girl down and you want vengeance and you take vengeance.

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>That don't mean that you Jeffrey Dahmer. That's standard for

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>for unruling niggas. That what we come from something.

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's rage of passion.

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Sure, so it just gets worse and worse and I

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. And and like this whole trafficking, I'm like, look, glads,

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>so you don't believe none of it? What is none

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of it? Are we talking about? Morally? Or do I

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 1>not believe the crime? Do I believe puff trafficked a woman?

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>But based on a federal statutory law. Better, based on

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a federal law, the statue of it. If he did fly?

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Is it possible?

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Puff?

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know, twelve, fifteen, twenty years ago, could have

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>flew a girl seventeen somewhere. Possibly, that's not crazy. But

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't reference that as trafficking.

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 5>But I ain't trying to say that was Cassie under

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 5>age when he started dealing with her.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't be in the tabloid, so

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know when he got her.

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah me, me, me, neither man not like that. I

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying, okay, okay, based on a federal law,

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think your shit is off peak. Based on the

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>federal law, say say something. Nope, you ain't got nothing,

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought, So we can't hear you.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 2>G no he O can't hear you?

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Your mic is not no, no okay. So based off

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the federal law, like I wouldn't reference, I wouldn't reference

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that as trafficking. I would reference that again. Now this

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>is where it does become interpretation and personal. But based

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>on the federal law, he's trafficking. So then by the

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>federal law, I just say, yeah, puff, federally, if he

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>flew a seventeen year old girl somewhere and fucked her

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that my friend is fucking trafficking under the federal statue,

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>then you're a trafficker. You're a federal trafficker. Then I

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>get it. Okay, sure, but based off what we understand

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>about trafficking, I wouldn't have connected the two. No, not

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>at all.

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 5>I think that is just like what they Yeah, it's

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 5>like with the whole pimping at home thing when they

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 5>start putting that on the pitch, you know what I'm saying,

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 5>Like they can create what they want, they can create laws.

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you can get them passed and then it's working.

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 3>This to me is one of those things where it's like,

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 3>as far as defining trafficking, if you're the it's like

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 3>it's like the end user, the buyer versus seller. Right

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 3>if you if you flew a chick out who had

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>a pimp, the pimp, who the pimp is the trafficker,

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 3>you're just the guy buying with the girl.

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>But but based off the federal statue that person can

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>be charged with.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Understand that.

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I understand that now I'm saying as far as yeah,

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying as far as like defining you know, the

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>spirit of the law versus letter of the law, oh

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, see.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I like and as a and as a as an outlaw,

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even know those that specific. I know what

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about exactly, but that's exactly spiritually what I've

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>been trying to summon that, Like, yes, there is the

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>letter of the law, and then there's the spirit of

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the law.

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 3>There you go, sure, and like even within that, if

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 3>you're just some chick who why don't you come down

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 3>here to my house in Miami from Atlanta whatever, blah

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 3>blah blah mess around. I don't really want to. I

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>don't really think I can. Dad, I'll slide to two thousand, okay, okay, cool,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 3>then I'll come down tomorrow. At that point, the lady

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 3>is then an entrepreneur. She's trafficking herself.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>But but yes, that's the spirit of the laws.

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>The letter of the law is, Yeah, anybody moves anybody

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 3>anywhere for any purpose and has sex.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>That there it's no, no, it has to be commercial

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>or under the age of eighteen.

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Define commerce.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.719
<v Speaker 3>The Commerce clause at the federal level says anything that

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 3>impacts the economy outwardly without a transaction is commerce. Wow,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 3>So so define commerce. That is a very vague, it's

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 3>very opaque.

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 5>There's so many layers that ships. The point where it

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 5>was created. The really like you, it's.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>It's like if I grow corn on my balcony and

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 3>eat it myself, because I therefore am affecting the inner

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>state corn marketed, it's under.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>The commerce clause.

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 5>Wow, man, they when they.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>They know what they're doing.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there are some things I have to accept

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>right federally, federally, federally again, I'm gonna readss Trafficking is

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:58.719
<v Speaker 1>a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>or coersion, or it was the person induced to perform

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>such an act has not obtained eighteen years of age.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 5>So based on that bro chances are them saying he

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 5>trafficking can be true according to that law.

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and everybody keeps saying Cassie, but it may not

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>even be Cassie because girl, there was another girl that

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>said it that she was seventeen.

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>That's what I and that's what they're doing.

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 5>They building it up and then, like you say, they

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 5>they are weaponizing public outrage and dusing it all against

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 5>him because he guilty in nigga's eyes, Like you the

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 5>people that's really trying to that. I mean, like when

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 5>I was listening to you talk to them dudes, and

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 5>they I felt like that what they was asking was

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 5>unfair because they basically like they're trying to make it.

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 5>It's like, y'all all believe what y'all believe based on

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 5>how y'all proceed this shit because we don't know, we

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 5>don't know the facts. We just know what was said.

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 5>So it's like, why do you believe it? Why don't

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 5>you believe it? It's like because I just I think that's

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 5>a bit extreme in a reach. And at this point

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 5>it's obvious that y'all won't this. Y'all won't this nigga

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 5>in jail for this. Y'all believe he's a horrible person.

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 5>Y'all don't see no good. Y'all don't see no good.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's weird because even when they would be talking

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>about sugar different people, they'd be like, and I'm like, bro,

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>these people are not any different than any person.

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 5>Well, the difference is that they're celebrities and they're rich

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 5>on paper, so the moral that.

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Will It's it's.

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 5>Like you say, we see ship in here conversations all

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 5>the time, man, the nigga. I mean, look the man,

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 5>Come on, man, it's so much wild shit going on

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 5>bro in everyday life. You feel me like to where

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 5>but they don't matter. They don't matter. It's like they

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 5>not they're not diddy. It's like, man, they ain't even

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 5>they ain't doing nothing good in their life at this point. Man,

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 5>they just guilty like you're the They're the worst person

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 5>people in the world, bro, which makes you realize how bad,

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 5>like how horrible are the people that's judging them is.

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, this conversation falls so far into women

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>versus men so often, Like I'm tired of the conversation

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>being pushed into what she came out right now or

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, why does she come out? Like I don't

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 1>want to have that conversation. I watch entirely too much

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Law and Order as for you.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Because it's gonna turn into an argument.

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I watch too much Law and Order as

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>for you, bro, And like I am way over programmed

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>in rape culture, you know what I mean? Like Olivia

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Benson cuz has like, like, she has shaped my view

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>on rape. That's crazy, right, a fucking character on television, right,

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Detective Tutuola, you know what I mean. Shout out to

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the big Homy Ice, all of these people, Stabler, They

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>have shaped my mind on rape culture. I don't have

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a fair mind. So, like, I really believe everything that

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>shows say about rape, like women could come out you

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>fear me twenty years, they could be embarrassed, like, I

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. So I really believe it because that show

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>has done such an excellent job of programming me. I

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>won't say teaching me because I didn't have to read it.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to follow up the information. I am

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>programmed by what they say about, you know, any of

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>those type of hainous crimes towards women sexually. I am programmed.

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 1>So like when people say that, I'm automatically like, shit,

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not what Olivia said. So I'm gonna take Olivia

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Benson's word because I've been watching this motherfucker for twenty

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>five years.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they telling you something though in them show

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>they don't just hear it.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm okay with that programming. That's one of the

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:37.959
<v Speaker 1>hearsay things that I am okay with. But again, there

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>is a space, bro where it's like, like even with Diddy,

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like what are we saying he did to Cassie. Did

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>he say I'm gonna kick your ass if you don't

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>have sex with this man, then that motherfucker is sex trafficking,

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 2>If you did that he beat her up. They saying,

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, it's.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>No I've seen it into fights and he heard her, right,

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's not connected to sex, you know, I mean,

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:09.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's over disagreements.

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>When though they're gonna connect all that.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Opinion, Yeah, in the in the in the in the

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 1>in the uh, in the complaint, that's not it wasn't

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>attached great, Yeah, the complaint and the complaint. It was

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>like this nigga was whooping my ass, I mean over

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>dudes calling me or certain people or blah blah blah,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>like right, but it wasn't connected to sex. And it's

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>important that those two things happen. Like the thought of

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>me kicking your ass at this time of what I'm

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>asking you to do, that's a far separate component. Because

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>of the.

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 5>Fact that she's stayed with him. That whole time, and

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 5>he was doing all this that's when the whole.

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>See, I don't even want to get into that because

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I watched too much as for you, And.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but what I'm saying, but I'm saying is people

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<v Speaker 5>are going to look at it like, well, she stayed

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 5>because she was afraid. He called hers her, he did

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 5>all these other things, blackmail, he did all these things.

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 5>He's doing that that's why she stayed. She's not about

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 5>to be held accountable for making a choice to still stay.

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 5>Even if you're afraid, you're still making a choice.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>See, I watched too much SVU, dog, So I can't

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>even give you an honest answer. And I'm not going

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>to even respond to that logically because I don't have

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a logical process. I would literally repeat something that I

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>heard in SVU, you know what I mean. So look,

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a nuanced conversation that I don't have enough information

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to have, you know what I mean. But why she

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>stayed with him could definitely be out of fear, and

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it could be out of the fact that she likes

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the comfortable lifestyle. And I don't think neither should be negated.

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they both could be true.

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's probably both are true. Now, the fear part,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know because I would. I don't know Puff

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't know Puff as this monster. Puff

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>came whip my ass. No, no disrespect Puff. If you

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>heard this podcast, Puff couldn't whoop my ass. So I'd

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>never be scared of Puff. It's niggas who came with

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>my ass. I might, like, I think me and Shug

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 1>is a good squabble. He could win or I might win,

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not like I'd be more scared of Should

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>than I would be a Puff, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>if I had to have fear, I'd be like that

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>big old nigga that's gonna.

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Be a bob. It's gonna it's gonna hurt.

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna come, It may hurt, you know what

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So but I just look at Puff, so

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I could never see Puff from that for tea ladies eyes,

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So I'm not saying that

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>those things are not true, like because we don't know exactly,

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe her that he kicked her ass before.

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, when we all know niggas, couples.

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Fight, Yeah, people fight, and she probably was on the

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>losing in Yeah.

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people act like nigga couples fight.

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm in. I'm all into yep. I always say that

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not not acknowledging that's true. That's true.

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I stand with you on that. What I'm saying is,

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>let's say that's true. Let's say he kicked her ass.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's say she lost the fight, right, they want to it,

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.320
<v Speaker 1>she lost the fight. I don't know if I'm connecting

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that to you. Gonna do whatever I'm gonna say because

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you think I'm gonna kick my ass and see that's

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>hard for me because I don't think one plus one

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>equals two. Yeah, but they connected that, sure, sure, Sure

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's just what he gotta be fitter kicking

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>her ass over set. I'm not in that.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 5>There all the nigga all that's factor when nigga, you

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, young man, then you got other

0:41:58.480 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 5>niggas tell the stories.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like do you feel like people weaponizing

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 1>their celebrity to get what they want? Is that wrong?

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it wrong?

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you feel like morally that's wrong?

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 5>Because we are if we if we really just break

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 5>down life and just even in our regular life. Somebody

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 5>that weaponized something that they they embody or possessed to

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 5>get what they want. I just think they're they are

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 5>being seen, you know what I'm saying, Like, didre weaponize

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 5>her beauty and her sex?

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 2>And in the game she.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 5>Had came across you know what I'm saying, and had

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 5>that little boy put a baby in it.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>He said he got babies with two other girls too, coming.

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know what I'm saying. But you know she

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 2>a girl though, so they ain't gonna look at it

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, you see some outrage on her and comments,

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 5>but for the most part, they like, man.

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>I was just as he just got his old girl prayer,

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>He got all his girls prayer, he got all he

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>got it. Yeah, he out there by the boy Jay

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>out there, shout out to Jay.

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Man, you can say the weaponizing, you

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, Like, boy, get out of here.

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>But you can't say nothing about women. Bro.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 5>If you ain't calling them beautiful, gorgeous, perfect, you really

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 5>ain't supposed to say shit.

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely where we're at in society. What do

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you generally feel about this, like sex trafficking based off

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>of the definition I gave you on the federal level,

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think that that's do you think that what

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>if you had to pick because Joey, between what I

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 1>explained about the federal statue of sex trafficking, sex trafficking

0:43:56.239 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of a person for the purposes of a commercial sex act,

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>in which the commercial sect in which the commercial sex

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>act is induced by force, fraud, or corrosion, or in

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>which the person induced to perform such an act has

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>not attained eighteen years of age. If again, because this

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>is somebody life, but if he was guilty federally of

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.240
<v Speaker 1>one of those, which part would you think it would be.

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Him? Just him transporting some pussy?

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Like but see, but I just don't know how you

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>wrap that into commercial.

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:54.439
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's probably just because he the fact that he's

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 5>just rich and he has money. So people feel like

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 5>that's just these things are happening just because he is

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 5>who he is and he have money.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 1>That is I don't know, it is that loose to interpretation,

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. I don't know if he's paying, Like, look,

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna shoot you this bread and all that.

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt in my mind that these niggas be

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>buying bitches.

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I would feel no disappointed if Puff was paying for pussy.

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 5>I mean, what what probably not like, hey, look I'm

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 5>gonna pay you.

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna fuck me.

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 5>But it's like I'm diddy, so you you money, just

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 5>come with me being diddy.

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then you probably I didn't heart.

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 5>I didn't hear niggas say like women that come kicking

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 5>and you know, yeah, you know, yeah, shoot him a

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 5>couple of shoot him a thousand of dollars or something

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 5>like that. Man, just because off GP. It just make

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 5>things go smoother. You may not have like negotiated it.

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I can't believe Puff is paying for pussy.

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Now now listen why they.

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Huh?

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Why would I would be so outrage if somebody told

0:45:58.600 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>me I had to pay for pussy.

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>If I was, well, you don't, you don't have to,

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 2>But people choose to.

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 1>You mean to tell me she don't want to fuck

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:07.439
<v Speaker 1>me for free?

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 5>They's it's a possibility that is bitches that don't want

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 5>to fuck.

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 2>You for free?

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 1>For real?

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 5>If you Puff, I'm pretty sure it's bitches that don't

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 5>want to willingly fuck Puff.

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>There's women who don't willingly want to sleep with Puff Daddy.

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's women, But then you got holes right who

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 5>will and they like are either gonna do it for

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 5>the bread or for the stature or for whatever.

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm the lifestyle and he's paying at that point.

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 1>So you think he could have paid for some pussy?

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Now, now do I think uh puffy on fig?

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I'm not saying on fig. But he paying,

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>so you genuinely believe he could have been paying uh

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.439
<v Speaker 1>uh escort?

0:46:56.280 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 5>I believe he paid for escort before. Yes, wouldn't I

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't doubt that. I wouldn't doubt that. Niggas don't have

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 5>They probably have parties and pay a lot at escorts.

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 5>Pull up, I'm gonna fly, y'all out, y'all know what's happening.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 5>Do y'all think money here? Y'all good?

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>For sure?

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Shit then he goddamn so this whole episode. But I

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 1>just feel dumb because at that point, federally, to the

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>letter of the law, not the spirit of it, but

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to the letter of the law, he would probably be

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>guilty if he flew some girls out. It was like, like,

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>let's say he paid some girls that was like dancers

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>or got out I to come out and fuck with us,

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and five for y'all and this five of us and

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm flying y'all out. That would be sex trafficking on

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the federal level.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 5>As regular as it is, and it don't really be

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 5>no big thing, but in the sense of this, and

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 5>it's daddy the public outrage and you got people who

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 5>just they didn't already painted this picture. I mean, they

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 5>calling the nigga gay every like, they just they dogging

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 5>a nigga. And I don't know what he didne did

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 5>to people. You feel me, I ain't never been signed

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 5>a bad boy, but they just dogging a nigga. It

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 5>ain't nobody speaking up for him.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's just me like and I'm like,

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't even fuck with this nigga.

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but see we yeah, but you yeah, man, ain't

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 5>nobody speaking for that nigga.

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Man, because everybody else worried about they checks and or.

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Worried about how people go see them.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 5>Oh, they definitely believe that, Oh for sure that it's

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 5>a lot of that. Because you could talk to some

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 5>of these dudes behind closed doors and they know what's up.

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 5>You'd be like, damn nigga, But you can't say that

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 5>because you know you're attached to this corporation, or you.

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Really just don't want to deal with being looked at

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 2>a certain way.

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I just really feel like I cannot be the only

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>reasonable real nigga in the room.

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>You mean, everybody on dope, everybody drink drunk, everybody is

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>being sexual shit everybody.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>No, everybody not on it.

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 5>But you definitely when it comes to just having your

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 5>own thoughts and and and even just reading things, like

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 5>even just reading that definition you read like three or

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 5>four times right now, I don't think most people are

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 5>even doing that.

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Which brought me to the thing off he possibly could

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 1>be guilty. I can't just say I don't believe he's guilty, you.

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 5>Know, because now that you have the definition of what

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 5>letter is the letter letter, Now that you have this,

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.720
<v Speaker 5>it's damn near it's damn near impossible.

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 2>For him to probably not ever traffic.

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>That's true, Like Van just said, the letter of the

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 1>law versus the spirits.

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Biggas rap about flying bitches out all the time.

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you know they paying and you, nigga.

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>You ain't even flying them out.

0:49:59.040 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 1>The fuck.

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 5>It's hard for me to believe niggas flying out bitches

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 5>and not wanting to fuck him. M and when like

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 5>when women be like, oh, why would a man expect that,

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 5>It's like, why wouldnety, why would he fly you out?

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you are y'all dating? Like?

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Is he trying to really? Is he looking to marry you?

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Are y'all court on Instagram? You on Instagram? Ass out

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 5>till he's out. He get at you and fly you

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<v Speaker 5>out and you don't think he expecting the fuck. That's crazy.

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