Speaker 1: What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone. So yeah, it's the point I'm saying
Speaker 1: is like, they raided cous house on the behest of
Speaker 1: a possible sex trafficking case. Right, yeah, ready, cous house
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. They raided cougs house in Miami, and
Speaker 1: sex trafficking on a federal level, bro, is really some shit, right,
Speaker 1: It's not. No, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the real deal. That's the ship that puts
Speaker 2: you away forever.
Speaker 1: Let me read y'all. The definition sex trafficking is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, patronizing,
Speaker 1: or soliciting of a person for the purposes of a
Speaker 1: commercial sex act, in which the commercial sex act is
Speaker 1: induced by force, fraud, or coersion, or in which the
Speaker 1: person induced the person induced to perform such an act
Speaker 1: has not attained eighteen years of age. So it's really loose.
Speaker 2: That's a dense definition.
Speaker 1: And they were asking me, why did I think I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure did he did it? Or why did I
Speaker 1: think he didn't do it? I said, because the commercial
Speaker 1: sex act part right, Like I heard the Cassie you know,
Speaker 1: I seen the Cassie layout of a civil case, right,
Speaker 1: and she was saying he forced her to have sex
Speaker 1: with other people right for his enjoyment. Right, But then
Speaker 1: the term force right, What are we saying did he
Speaker 1: threaten her to say? Like, let me ask you a question,
Speaker 1: Pete if if you say, hey, man, I like the
Speaker 1: fuck girls. I like to. I like to. I like to.
Speaker 1: What's the word when you have sex with a girl? Anneally?
Speaker 1: Side of eyes? I like to side of mize my women.
Speaker 1: She like, well, I don't like that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. Well, if you want to be with me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? This is how I like
Speaker 1: my sex. And she chooses to be with you, right
Speaker 1: and let you do it even though she she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to do it. And see, that's where it gets
Speaker 1: crazy on the concept of willingness, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's still it's still to me, it's willful even
Speaker 1: if you don't want to do it. And I tell
Speaker 1: you I am actually at state being with me. This
Speaker 1: is what I like. But by that federal standard, by
Speaker 1: that federal statue, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That can be considered coercion or for that opens every
Speaker 3: woman who's ever asked for anything to be bought to her.
Speaker 4: Ever, And this is my point into extortion at the
Speaker 4: And that's.
Speaker 1: My point, bro, And I'm glad you said that, because
Speaker 1: that's where I was trying to get when I was
Speaker 1: talking to some of my peoples in the conversation. I'm like,
Speaker 1: like even in the in the in the Harvey Weinstein thing, right,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, if you want this job, you have
Speaker 1: to watch me jack off as weird and creepy as
Speaker 1: that ship is. I don't know if that's a force,
Speaker 1: because the option when it is late, the option is
Speaker 1: very much yours right or like. But then I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like men use power and money to get what they
Speaker 1: want out of a woman. Women use beauty and.
Speaker 2: Sex sex.
Speaker 1: Like the vanity of it, all right, And this is
Speaker 1: a stat of the man and woman dynamic outside of
Speaker 1: my fold.
Speaker 3: This is like the preface in chapter one of like
Speaker 3: Robert Green's Art of Seduction, like dating.
Speaker 4: Back to early like early historic man.
Speaker 5: And I think it and I think it changes and
Speaker 5: people take it differently. Once the person has a quote
Speaker 5: unquote power money, it's like it's like, well, that happens
Speaker 5: in the regular ship, Like that happens all the time.
Speaker 5: I'm sure, like just outside, like in somebody house right now, Like.
Speaker 2: Well, if you ain't fuck with me, if you ain't sucking.
Speaker 1: About buying, you get up out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't doing all that like but it ain't
Speaker 2: ain't nothing like Okay, I'll do it. He didn't force it.
Speaker 5: But when you got a position to where you can change,
Speaker 5: somebody left, I mean life, you know, at least they
Speaker 5: believe it.
Speaker 2: It changed the whole game.
Speaker 1: Somebody said to me. They were saying, because I've been
Speaker 1: kind of been accused of being like an R Kelly supporter,
Speaker 1: and I'm not right. This is how I see R Kelly.
Speaker 1: Bro Somebody said, well, y'all act like R Kelly. Nobody
Speaker 1: ever thought R Kelly was innocent. There's no person walking
Speaker 1: the earth that did not think R Kelly was not
Speaker 1: sleeping with women that were under the legal age of consent.
Speaker 1: We all knew he married a Leah in real time.
Speaker 1: We all knew he pissed on that fifteen year old
Speaker 1: girl in real time, But at that time, the mind
Speaker 1: state was different on how we saw men and women dynamics. Right,
Speaker 1: it was a little looser thirty years ago or thirty
Speaker 1: years before that, or thirty years before that, because lord knows,
Speaker 1: half of these niggas Grandpa would be in jail, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because they had a different mind
Speaker 1: state then it was, they didn't. You know, Over time,
Speaker 1: sophistication comes in and we start to expect more from
Speaker 1: human beings as some sophisticated life of you know, some
Speaker 1: sophisticated form of life. We demand a greater sense of
Speaker 1: excellence right where it's like, well you have to wait
Speaker 1: until she eighteen bro before you get before she can
Speaker 1: legally consent to sleep with you. But back to my
Speaker 1: point is, I don't think none of us ever thought
Speaker 1: or R Kelly was in it. Not one person thought
Speaker 1: R Kelly was innocent. But you know what happened. It
Speaker 1: went from him being right breaking the law when it
Speaker 1: comes to having sex with a what is it called,
Speaker 1: uh like a statutory statutory rape, to trafficking. And because
Speaker 1: the federal version of that law, even the Man Act,
Speaker 1: the Man Act, was a racist law used against Jack
Speaker 1: Johnson one hundred years ago, one hundred plus years ago
Speaker 1: for taking white women across state line to fights and
Speaker 1: fuck them, you know what I'm saying. So they were
Speaker 1: able to put racketeering charges. Right, he should have went
Speaker 1: to jail because the federal violation law that was obvious
Speaker 1: that he violated was the Child Pornography Act, where you
Speaker 1: take if you record sleeping with a woman less than
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, it's a child pornography Act. That shit
Speaker 1: carry I think sixty ten years or somewhere roughly around there. Right,
Speaker 1: But because of the false outrage of TV shows that
Speaker 1: created around the space of conversation you I mean and
Speaker 1: turn that villainized him past exactly what he was. Nobody
Speaker 1: ever thought or Kelly forced anybody. That's something nobody never thought.
Speaker 1: That's why he was in charged with rape. Right, nobody
Speaker 1: thought he forced anybody. We all thought he liked young women,
Speaker 1: and that shit is against the law in some of
Speaker 1: these states. Some of these states is less than six
Speaker 1: like some of these states are sixteen more states in
Speaker 1: the United States of America, the legal age of con
Speaker 1: center sixteen than it is eighteen or seventeen. Right, But
Speaker 1: we all knew he was guilty of statutory rape, and
Speaker 1: even on a federal level, he would be guilty of
Speaker 1: the Child Pornography Act, right, But none of us thought
Speaker 1: he was trafficking women because we have a decent understanding
Speaker 1: of what trafficking women is in relating to commercial sex acts.
Speaker 1: But they were able to hit him with that because
Speaker 1: of the public outrage. They were able to hit him
Speaker 1: with the Man Act because of the fake public outrage. Right.
Speaker 1: They were able to hit him with a racketeering charge
Speaker 1: because of the fake public outrage, and he ended up
Speaker 1: with more time than Sammy de Boy Gravano who killed
Speaker 1: sixteen people. This is my problem, bro, this is what
Speaker 1: fucking drives me crazy. It's like we keep letting him
Speaker 1: do that. Like people are mentioning, did he cuz with
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epsteincuz had an island of crime?
Speaker 5: They gonna do that though, Bro, that's that dude. They
Speaker 5: the Internet man. People on the Internet, man, they extremists.
Speaker 1: I don't even think they extremists as much as they're
Speaker 1: just shouting. It's not even out of any sense. It's
Speaker 1: all a false competition. And that's my point, right. Like
Speaker 1: people was asking me about Diddy, I'm like, look, bro,
Speaker 1: are we saying I don't have to agree with his
Speaker 1: life morally? Man? If I got into a moral conversation
Speaker 1: with most people, they would be telling me what I
Speaker 1: do as a crypy. Oh you're a crip, well, I
Speaker 1: would agree with that, y'all. Killy, y'all kill other black people. Nigga.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you drinking alcohol. That's how serious, nigga.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you smoking tobacco. Niggas, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with you. You want to go down a list of
Speaker 1: dumb ass shit that I don't agree with human beings doing. Bro,
Speaker 1: like the list of shit that I see human beings doing,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, that's dumb niggas doing drugs, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not judging Puff morally. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: which deal Doughcuz left in the bathroom. I don't ever
Speaker 1: fuck which one of these niggas he was fucking. If
Speaker 1: he was fucking one of these niggas. Listen, it's simple,
Speaker 1: no sellings, gl my nigga, Pete in the house. I
Speaker 1: got Joey back for y'all. Know y'all like Joey, y'all
Speaker 1: think he crazy, so I got him back. I don't
Speaker 1: like the fact that now we're judging him morally. I mean,
Speaker 1: people are like, well, I hate him so much. It's
Speaker 1: like Puff ain't did nothing for nobody to hate cuz
Speaker 1: Puff not. Now nigga, Puff is against everybody scared of him,
Speaker 1: and niggas is not scared of puff Dog. Nah, do
Speaker 1: I think Puff is capable of doing some bullshit? Sure
Speaker 1: he got some money. Do I think Puff is a
Speaker 1: type of nigga that's gonna walk up on the street
Speaker 1: and try a man man? Fuck No, that ain't his style. Now,
Speaker 1: He not gonna let you bully his motherfucking family. He
Speaker 1: gonna stand up for himself what I mean? But he
Speaker 1: ain't something motherfuckers who perped us. And now to why
Speaker 1: people sit back and act like the justice system in
Speaker 1: some all sense of righteousness, like oh yeah, well, you
Speaker 1: know they fears don't come unless they got all evidence.
Speaker 1: Nigga ain't not even coming to They didn't even say
Speaker 1: they had an arrest warrant. They said they were raiding
Speaker 1: his house based off the possibility of a sex trafficking
Speaker 1: game and they had their guns draw Oh you know,
Speaker 1: they had their guns drawing because he had.
Speaker 2: So what the hell?
Speaker 5: Like if you if you raiding his house for possible
Speaker 5: sex trafficking, Like what the fuck they looking for tapes.
Speaker 5: I don't know, because women and then like tied up
Speaker 5: like what it seemed like at this point, it just
Speaker 5: seemed like they got an agenda and it's working.
Speaker 3: At that point, they're pretty much raiding the house for
Speaker 3: electronic devices.
Speaker 4: If I had to make guests, right, you know.
Speaker 1: This is well this commercial act. And if it's a
Speaker 1: commercial act of someone under the age of eighteen, well
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 3: Think I think it's any act under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean sex trafficking, yeah, we as.
Speaker 4: You, yeah, but like you don't have to if you.
Speaker 3: Transport a minor to have sex, it doesn't need to
Speaker 3: be commercial for that to be trafficking.
Speaker 1: And so maybe that's the part we don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's some seventeen year old girl, right, he had you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and he flew to another state
Speaker 1: and they had sex. I mean she was seventeen or
Speaker 1: not and they had sex, you feel me, and that's
Speaker 1: what they have, then that would be sex trafficking. But
Speaker 1: again I wouldn't I'd be really careful, like I see.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about a federal law. It's left
Speaker 1: really open, so they can really position the law how
Speaker 1: they want. It's not stable. It's really like the times
Speaker 1: it is black and white, like on drugs, it's like
Speaker 1: if you get caught with this much dope, your ads
Speaker 1: going to jail for this much time rights that is,
Speaker 1: but on a lot of those type of rico charges,
Speaker 1: trafficing charges, it's really open. And coersion is very much
Speaker 1: like a motherfucking like an interpretation word.
Speaker 4: Sure, coercion.
Speaker 3: The problem with coercion is it can be defined as
Speaker 3: carrot or stick, and then people only think about it
Speaker 3: in the stick sense, but it can be also existing
Speaker 3: in the carrots sense, like the Weinstein that's a carrot thing.
Speaker 3: Suck my dick, I'll put you in that TV show.
Speaker 3: It's not suck my dick or I'm gonna knock off
Speaker 3: your kneecap.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Right, it cuts both ways
Speaker 4: from zero.
Speaker 2: And you ain't gotta suck the dick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you don't need the job, go back to
Speaker 4: the cashier gig you had before.
Speaker 1: Co Ers to persuade to do something by using force
Speaker 1: of threats.
Speaker 2: So so they can you don't get that.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna get this job if you don't do it.
Speaker 1: And and it's like it's so like, yeah.
Speaker 3: As if you had the job locked up beforehand, which
Speaker 3: is the part that isn't true. Like there's a menu
Speaker 3: of people trying to apply for this, to get cast
Speaker 3: for this position. We haven't chosen one yet. But if
Speaker 3: you don't suck my dick, you're going to be out
Speaker 3: of contention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's that's I mean.
Speaker 4: And I don't know how.
Speaker 1: To feel about that, bro. Like, because I've watched human
Speaker 1: beings for years. You something that somebody else wanted to
Speaker 1: get what they want. Like, while I've never done it,
Speaker 1: that's not my forte, right, but I've watched human beings
Speaker 1: do that forever. I watched it beautiful do it with
Speaker 1: beauty in the pursuit of you know, physical intimacy. For
Speaker 1: me and I watch men do it for money for money.
Speaker 5: We're watching it. We're watching niggas do it right now
Speaker 5: for money. Yeah, all day on the internet.
Speaker 1: So even in a Cassie case, because I've read through it,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember every part of it. Listen, if
Speaker 1: he had some woman, if he had some if he
Speaker 1: told Cassie, Hey, so let's let's agree. Let's let's agree
Speaker 1: on something, right, Let's let's let's come to some kind
Speaker 1: of agreement. Let's say he told Cassie, hey, like, I'm
Speaker 1: a cuk a a motherfucking cup. I like my girl
Speaker 1: getting nailed by another man. And she's like, well, I
Speaker 1: really don't like that. I just want to sleep with you.
Speaker 1: He like, look, this is what I like it. If
Speaker 1: you want to be me, this is what I like.
Speaker 1: And if you not, then if we're not gonna be together.
Speaker 1: Are we calling that coercion? Are we saying if he
Speaker 1: say like, I'm gonna beat your ass to do this, like,
Speaker 1: where does it stand for you? Like Pete, where does
Speaker 1: it stand for you?
Speaker 4: To me?
Speaker 3: It has to be an escapable physical threat with time,
Speaker 3: sense of activity of the immediate variety. Not I know
Speaker 3: you've grown accustomed to this lifestyle and it would be
Speaker 3: a shame if something happened to your financial lifestyle.
Speaker 4: Wink wink, nod, nod.
Speaker 3: That's not be a shame if you have to go
Speaker 3: get a fucking job, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: No, that's not what about you?
Speaker 2: Joy?
Speaker 1: Where you staying with it?
Speaker 5: I'm kind of with that on the same thing, Like,
Speaker 5: you got to be some like physical like a real
Speaker 5: threat like things that we consider real threats.
Speaker 2: Danger not yet like danger not like.
Speaker 4: Or a shame if you found yourself driving a camera tomorrow, wouldn't.
Speaker 5: It you You interpreting that I have power because I
Speaker 5: am who I am and you may have heard something
Speaker 5: about me or whatever the case may be. So you like,
Speaker 5: oh I forced you, are cohersed you or something like
Speaker 5: that because you you're aware of.
Speaker 2: My alleged past. You know, it's like I'm gonna slap
Speaker 2: the shit out of you if you don't do that.
Speaker 5: Well, okay, just like, hey, nigga, you damn nigga added
Speaker 5: that's kind of it's kind of crazy threat.
Speaker 1: I feel the statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage,
Speaker 1: or other hostile action on someone and retribution for something
Speaker 1: done or not done.
Speaker 3: See this is where I was going here real quick
Speaker 3: with that. It just falls into the definition, is what
Speaker 3: the definition is. But like, especially in the modern climate,
Speaker 3: it's gonna get dangerously.
Speaker 2: Unavoidable to.
Speaker 1: Deal with.
Speaker 4: The emotional abuse aspect.
Speaker 3: Oh well you don't want to do this, well fine,
Speaker 3: I'll go fuck Susie Q from my Instagram at box.
Speaker 3: I'll bring her down here right now. She'll come through,
Speaker 3: no problem. And that creates an emotional trauma for the
Speaker 3: girl who for Cassie, who's the girlfriend, because she hasn't
Speaker 3: liked the idea of her man fucking this other girl.
Speaker 3: And no, no, no, no no, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Threat you with emotionally abusive actions.
Speaker 5: That worked a lot, and that shit will work and
Speaker 5: people will be on her side.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Nigga Vance said, I don't honestly don't know. He said,
Speaker 1: if flying an escort from Phoenix to LA to fuck
Speaker 1: is illegal, I know mad niggas that are going to jail,
Speaker 1: I said, Van, that's definitely illegal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like superup illegal.
Speaker 1: Like way more than even prostitution. That's that's actually trafficking.
Speaker 1: That's actually it's funny to what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but which is normal as that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now imagine.
Speaker 3: That's the same as like hosting a babe. That's the
Speaker 3: same statement as being like, well, if having two ounces
Speaker 3: of code because of a giant crime, I know a
Speaker 3: bunch of people have done that before. Well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: just a giant crime.
Speaker 1: But but but he asked, he was asking for the
Speaker 1: sake of prostitution versus trafficking, And I'm like, that's trafficking
Speaker 1: prostitutions hard.
Speaker 3: They've expanded the definition of prostitution. It's pretty much it
Speaker 3: if you if you take the bitch from the hotel
Speaker 3: to the street corner, you traffickedor yeah, if if you
Speaker 3: if you pull up and and you wave the bitch
Speaker 3: from the curb to the passenger seat you traffickedor from
Speaker 3: the curb to the passenger.
Speaker 1: Seat, right and and and that's my point is like, look.
Speaker 2: And it'll get that petty. It'll get that petty.
Speaker 1: Especially with the But but they couldn't make that work.
Speaker 1: They couldn't make that work without public outrage, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because if we're conscious of what's going on,
Speaker 1: we'd be like, hold up, hey, o nog y'all stop
Speaker 1: that that's prob We would force them as a society.
Speaker 2: To public opinion convicted.
Speaker 1: Man. And it's getting people, it's getting people investigated. And
Speaker 1: it's not real, bro, These are like these are not
Speaker 1: true threats to public safety. Puff is not a fucking
Speaker 1: true threat to public safety. Like we outraged in him,
Speaker 1: Like it's it was more outrage on Puff than Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: That's why I don't and I don't support it. Man,
Speaker 5: I don't support Like, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think that that's true.
Speaker 3: Bro, there there was an enormous amount of outrage on
Speaker 3: on Epstein.
Speaker 1: That no, no, no, no, Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker 4: It was Weinstein.
Speaker 1: That ship was yeah, that shit was everywhere, and people were.
Speaker 3: More about Epstein being killed. I don't think that there
Speaker 3: was a lot of talking. That ship was so weird
Speaker 3: that that that guy's ship was so muffled.
Speaker 1: But I'm until he got wise because whoever was fucking
Speaker 1: because with that little ship, that little weirdo ship that
Speaker 1: he was doing, it's real power.
Speaker 4: Power, I would say, powerful people.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again it's like listen, if puff broke the law
Speaker 1: right for real, right, then justice is fair in society
Speaker 1: and I would understand it, like just like I said,
Speaker 1: back to the kills thing, I got it if he
Speaker 1: got ten years. But my problem is when you railroad
Speaker 1: him and then we're like, well shit, we don't care
Speaker 1: that nigga was a nuisance. It's like, bro, don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. Like, yes, he should be in
Speaker 1: prison for crimes that he committed in a society because
Speaker 1: that's how justice worked. But everything ain't all, it ain't
Speaker 1: balls off on because it ain't just do anything to
Speaker 1: him because he's just this horrible person, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a fucked up person and he died. But let's
Speaker 1: keep it justice, justice, because that's what they would do
Speaker 1: to other Americans.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, this is right here.
Speaker 3: This is basically the Eighth Amendment issue about all the
Speaker 3: Donald Trump shiit. I mean, like he's the best example
Speaker 3: of language interpretation and bizarre targeting of weird obscure life.
Speaker 3: It's not even a fact of like the deal with
Speaker 3: the most of Trump's cases, it's not did he do
Speaker 3: it or not. It hasn't been adjudicated with precedents as
Speaker 3: to whether that is or is not even a crime.
Speaker 3: He's being convicted on stuff that's gonna get dumped in
Speaker 3: appeal when it's determined that it's not even a crime,
Speaker 3: not that the evidence with gas with badly, not that
Speaker 3: it blah blah blah blah blah, that it simply yeah
Speaker 3: he did that, and you know, quite frankly, it's just
Speaker 3: not a crime.
Speaker 1: And I don't think society realizes the power of outrage
Speaker 1: of socially talking about something specifically like I don't think
Speaker 1: they do because for most people they just going to
Speaker 1: live in their life, but they forget these are real
Speaker 1: consequences for real people. And it goes back like to
Speaker 1: that jay Z line where people have look. I hear
Speaker 1: so many people telling me, oh man, glasses, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: that's how people be. They tell me the mind state
Speaker 1: of a hater, like I hear people, well, you know, Glass,
Speaker 1: that's how it is when niggas be hating on you,
Speaker 1: because niggas they have these grand scheme when you know,
Speaker 1: because the way a hater feel, and they'll just be
Speaker 1: breaking down how haters feel. And I will ask him like,
Speaker 1: cuz you ever hated on somebody?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I ain't, never did that. Well, how do you know this?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Who where did you get this discernment or this lesson?
Speaker 1: And hater? One on one like, how do you know how?
Speaker 1: Oh Glass, you know, when niggas get too much money,
Speaker 1: they start thinking they could do anything. Have you ever
Speaker 1: got too much money and thought you'd do anything?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Well, how do you know when a nigga get too
Speaker 1: much money how he feels.
Speaker 5: They've read it, heard somebody else say it, and just
Speaker 5: regurgitate that.
Speaker 1: A group thought. It's all group thought. And then they
Speaker 1: just say it again and they say it again and
Speaker 1: it could cost somebody their life. Listen, Cuz if Puff
Speaker 1: did that shit, then Puff got he got to deal
Speaker 1: with the society that he is a part of. Right cool,
Speaker 1: That's how that worked. But man, he already convicted, like
Speaker 1: I was explaining to them, because like, bro, like, it
Speaker 1: don't matter if he was not if it came out
Speaker 1: he was not guilty. His career is over. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and they don't understand it. They really, well, no, it
Speaker 1: ain't I'm like, bro, it's over, Like yeah, man, they
Speaker 1: don't care. Michael Jackson's music career was over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they humiliated him and to this day people saying
Speaker 2: he did it.
Speaker 1: But the problem is so many of these contracts work
Speaker 1: on moral standards, on them judging your behavior.
Speaker 5: But see that's information you privy too, right Bay, and
Speaker 5: not just because you're in the industry.
Speaker 2: You could have read that, right. But they don't care
Speaker 2: about none of that. Man. They are he guilty in
Speaker 2: their eyes.
Speaker 5: So as soon as the allegations came out, guilty, like
Speaker 5: they glasses.
Speaker 1: Will you know all these years, Glasses, all these years
Speaker 1: we've been hearing shit. Puff. I'm like, well, what have
Speaker 1: you heard about Puff all these years because I didn't
Speaker 1: hear what you heard. I have never in my life
Speaker 1: heard Puff was a gangster. Now I'm not saying there
Speaker 1: ain't some niggas saying Puff is a gangster. I just
Speaker 1: don't know. No nigga that said Puff is no gangster,
Speaker 1: not her Puff as a man. I'm just starting to
Speaker 1: hear more shit about Puff this whole time. Like over
Speaker 1: the last three or four years, I'm hearing about more
Speaker 1: tough shit Puff did in his entire life than I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in MIAs about.
Speaker 5: It's about to come out. Now, it's all coming out.
Speaker 5: He did this, he gets set this person up. He
Speaker 5: slapped this person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh he got no. He punched on Drake, right,
Speaker 1: but it's Drake. No disrespect to to Drake. But like nigga,
Speaker 1: you don't get no points punching Drake. He got into
Speaker 1: a ship with Ja Cole. Nigga, you don't get no
Speaker 1: points choking Jake Cole, not amongst other dudes that's masculine
Speaker 1: or in the streets at all. We not gonna look
Speaker 1: at Drake. We're gonna look at Drake as a talented musician.
Speaker 1: That's a kid from Canada, that's thirty seven, Like, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even fucking fight Drake. It's fucking Drake. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: fight j Cole Brodies are like talented rapper. Like. So,
Speaker 1: I don't know where this whole thing came from. Now
Speaker 1: I'm starting to hear more shit. I didn't hear none
Speaker 1: of this shit at first. The closest shit I heard
Speaker 1: to some Gasha shit was Puff putting the hit out
Speaker 1: on Tupac. That is it. Oh, he was supposed to
Speaker 1: post them. He was gonna give them some money. That's
Speaker 1: the closest thing I've heard. I never that too.
Speaker 2: People believe that too.
Speaker 1: But I've never in any other years, all these years
Speaker 1: since I heard a Cuz since nineteen ninety one ninety two,
Speaker 1: heard Cuz doing no bunch of tough ass shit. Never.
Speaker 1: That's why it's always surprising to me when Cuz ended
Speaker 1: up in some tough ass shit, when he was arguing
Speaker 1: with that actor on the corner, dressed like the joker,
Speaker 1: I just was surprised, Like.
Speaker 2: Damne, look at Puff, fink he tough, right.
Speaker 1: So I'm so when people say to me because years
Speaker 1: and years of Puff, I'm like, years and years of
Speaker 1: Puff doing what Puff never been like that, Oh well
Speaker 1: he blew that dude car up. Nigga, You fucking my bitch,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow your fucking car up. Damn is wrong
Speaker 1: with you? I don't think you gotta be tough to
Speaker 1: blow nobody nigga fucking yo, Broad imagine might sleep with
Speaker 1: your wife, Joe, you might blow they fucking car up. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: maybe ship you gotta be what if it's a nigga, you.
Speaker 2: Know I'm carp.
Speaker 1: I don't think that makes you tough. Because somebody knocking
Speaker 1: your girl down and you want vengeance and you take vengeance.
Speaker 1: That don't mean that you Jeffrey Dahmer. That's standard for
Speaker 1: for unruling niggas. That what we come from something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rage of passion.
Speaker 1: Sure, so it just gets worse and worse and I
Speaker 1: don't get it. And and like this whole trafficking, I'm like, look, glads,
Speaker 1: so you don't believe none of it? What is none
Speaker 1: of it? Are we talking about? Morally? Or do I
Speaker 1: not believe the crime? Do I believe puff trafficked a woman?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: But based on a federal statutory law. Better, based on
Speaker 1: a federal law, the statue of it. If he did fly?
Speaker 1: Is it possible?
Speaker 4: Puff?
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, twelve, fifteen, twenty years ago, could have
Speaker 1: flew a girl seventeen somewhere. Possibly, that's not crazy. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't reference that as trafficking.
Speaker 5: But I ain't trying to say that was Cassie under
Speaker 5: age when he started dealing with her.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't be in the tabloid, so
Speaker 1: I don't even know when he got her.
Speaker 2: Yeah me, me, me, neither man not like that. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, okay, okay, based on a federal law,
Speaker 1: I think your shit is off peak. Based on the
Speaker 1: federal law, say say something. Nope, you ain't got nothing,
Speaker 1: I thought, So we can't hear you.
Speaker 2: G no he O can't hear you?
Speaker 1: Your mic is not no, no okay. So based off
Speaker 1: the federal law, like I wouldn't reference, I wouldn't reference
Speaker 1: that as trafficking. I would reference that again. Now this
Speaker 1: is where it does become interpretation and personal. But based
Speaker 1: on the federal law, he's trafficking. So then by the
Speaker 1: federal law, I just say, yeah, puff, federally, if he
Speaker 1: flew a seventeen year old girl somewhere and fucked her
Speaker 1: that my friend is fucking trafficking under the federal statue,
Speaker 1: then you're a trafficker. You're a federal trafficker. Then I
Speaker 1: get it. Okay, sure, but based off what we understand
Speaker 1: about trafficking, I wouldn't have connected the two. No, not
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 5: I think that is just like what they Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: like with the whole pimping at home thing when they
Speaker 5: start putting that on the pitch, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like they can create what they want, they can create laws.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can get them passed and then it's working.
Speaker 3: This to me is one of those things where it's like,
Speaker 3: as far as defining trafficking, if you're the it's like
Speaker 3: it's like the end user, the buyer versus seller. Right
Speaker 3: if you if you flew a chick out who had
Speaker 3: a pimp, the pimp, who the pimp is the trafficker,
Speaker 3: you're just the guy buying with the girl.
Speaker 1: But but based off the federal statue that person can
Speaker 1: be charged with.
Speaker 4: Understand that.
Speaker 3: I understand that now I'm saying as far as yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm saying as far as like defining you know, the
Speaker 3: spirit of the law versus letter of the law, oh
Speaker 3: you know, see.
Speaker 1: I like and as a and as a as an outlaw,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know those that specific. I know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about exactly, but that's exactly spiritually what I've
Speaker 1: been trying to summon that, Like, yes, there is the
Speaker 1: letter of the law, and then there's the spirit of
Speaker 1: the law.
Speaker 3: There you go, sure, and like even within that, if
Speaker 3: you're just some chick who why don't you come down
Speaker 3: here to my house in Miami from Atlanta whatever, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah mess around. I don't really want to. I
Speaker 3: don't really think I can. Dad, I'll slide to two thousand, okay, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: then I'll come down tomorrow. At that point, the lady
Speaker 3: is then an entrepreneur. She's trafficking herself.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: But but yes, that's the spirit of the laws.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The letter of the law is, Yeah, anybody moves anybody
Speaker 3: anywhere for any purpose and has sex.
Speaker 1: That there it's no, no, it has to be commercial
Speaker 1: or under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 4: Define commerce.
Speaker 3: The Commerce clause at the federal level says anything that
Speaker 3: impacts the economy outwardly without a transaction is commerce. Wow,
Speaker 3: So so define commerce. That is a very vague, it's
Speaker 3: very opaque.
Speaker 5: There's so many layers that ships. The point where it
Speaker 5: was created. The really like you, it's.
Speaker 3: It's like if I grow corn on my balcony and
Speaker 3: eat it myself, because I therefore am affecting the inner
Speaker 3: state corn marketed, it's under.
Speaker 4: The commerce clause.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: Wow, man, they when they.
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there are some things I have to accept
Speaker 1: right federally, federally, federally again, I'm gonna readss Trafficking is
Speaker 1: the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of
Speaker 1: a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act
Speaker 1: in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud,
Speaker 1: or coersion, or it was the person induced to perform
Speaker 1: such an act has not obtained eighteen years of age.
Speaker 5: So based on that bro chances are them saying he
Speaker 5: trafficking can be true according to that law.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody keeps saying Cassie, but it may not
Speaker 1: even be Cassie because girl, there was another girl that
Speaker 1: said it that she was seventeen.
Speaker 2: That's what I and that's what they're doing.
Speaker 5: They building it up and then, like you say, they
Speaker 5: they are weaponizing public outrage and dusing it all against
Speaker 5: him because he guilty in nigga's eyes, Like you the
Speaker 5: people that's really trying to that. I mean, like when
Speaker 5: I was listening to you talk to them dudes, and
Speaker 5: they I felt like that what they was asking was
Speaker 5: unfair because they basically like they're trying to make it.
Speaker 5: It's like, y'all all believe what y'all believe based on
Speaker 5: how y'all proceed this shit because we don't know, we
Speaker 5: don't know the facts. We just know what was said.
Speaker 5: So it's like, why do you believe it? Why don't
Speaker 5: you believe it? It's like because I just I think that's
Speaker 5: a bit extreme in a reach. And at this point
Speaker 5: it's obvious that y'all won't this. Y'all won't this nigga
Speaker 5: in jail for this. Y'all believe he's a horrible person.
Speaker 5: Y'all don't see no good. Y'all don't see no good.
Speaker 1: And it's weird because even when they would be talking
Speaker 1: about sugar different people, they'd be like, and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: these people are not any different than any person.
Speaker 5: Well, the difference is that they're celebrities and they're rich
Speaker 5: on paper, so the moral that.
Speaker 2: Will It's it's.
Speaker 5: Like you say, we see ship in here conversations all
Speaker 5: the time, man, the nigga. I mean, look the man,
Speaker 5: Come on, man, it's so much wild shit going on
Speaker 5: bro in everyday life. You feel me like to where
Speaker 5: but they don't matter. They don't matter. It's like they
Speaker 5: not they're not diddy. It's like, man, they ain't even
Speaker 5: they ain't doing nothing good in their life at this point. Man,
Speaker 5: they just guilty like you're the They're the worst person
Speaker 5: people in the world, bro, which makes you realize how bad,
Speaker 5: like how horrible are the people that's judging them is.
Speaker 1: I don't know, this conversation falls so far into women
Speaker 1: versus men so often, Like I'm tired of the conversation
Speaker 1: being pushed into what she came out right now or
Speaker 1: you know, why does she come out? Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to have that conversation. I watch entirely too much
Speaker 1: Law and Order as for you.
Speaker 2: Because it's gonna turn into an argument.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I watch too much Law and Order as
Speaker 1: for you, bro, And like I am way over programmed
Speaker 1: in rape culture, you know what I mean? Like Olivia
Speaker 1: Benson cuz has like, like, she has shaped my view
Speaker 1: on rape. That's crazy, right, a fucking character on television, right,
Speaker 1: Detective Tutuola, you know what I mean. Shout out to
Speaker 1: the big Homy Ice, all of these people, Stabler, They
Speaker 1: have shaped my mind on rape culture. I don't have
Speaker 1: a fair mind. So, like, I really believe everything that
Speaker 1: shows say about rape, like women could come out you
Speaker 1: fear me twenty years, they could be embarrassed, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. So I really believe it because that show
Speaker 1: has done such an excellent job of programming me. I
Speaker 1: won't say teaching me because I didn't have to read it.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to follow up the information. I am
Speaker 1: programmed by what they say about, you know, any of
Speaker 1: those type of hainous crimes towards women sexually. I am programmed.
Speaker 1: So like when people say that, I'm automatically like, shit,
Speaker 1: that's not what Olivia said. So I'm gonna take Olivia
Speaker 1: Benson's word because I've been watching this motherfucker for twenty
Speaker 1: five years.
Speaker 2: I mean, they telling you something though in them show
Speaker 2: they don't just hear it.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with that programming. That's one of the
Speaker 1: hearsay things that I am okay with. But again, there
Speaker 1: is a space, bro where it's like, like even with Diddy,
Speaker 1: like what are we saying he did to Cassie. Did
Speaker 1: he say I'm gonna kick your ass if you don't
Speaker 1: have sex with this man, then that motherfucker is sex trafficking,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: If you did that he beat her up. They saying,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's.
Speaker 1: No I've seen it into fights and he heard her, right,
Speaker 1: But it's not connected to sex, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's over disagreements.
Speaker 2: When though they're gonna connect all that.
Speaker 1: Opinion, Yeah, in the in the in the in the
Speaker 1: in the uh, in the complaint, that's not it wasn't
Speaker 1: attached great, Yeah, the complaint and the complaint. It was
Speaker 1: like this nigga was whooping my ass, I mean over
Speaker 1: dudes calling me or certain people or blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: like right, but it wasn't connected to sex. And it's
Speaker 1: important that those two things happen. Like the thought of
Speaker 1: me kicking your ass at this time of what I'm
Speaker 1: asking you to do, that's a far separate component. Because
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 5: Fact that she's stayed with him. That whole time, and
Speaker 5: he was doing all this that's when the whole.
Speaker 1: See, I don't even want to get into that because
Speaker 1: I watched too much as for you, And.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what I'm saying, but I'm saying is people
Speaker 5: are going to look at it like, well, she stayed
Speaker 5: because she was afraid. He called hers her, he did
Speaker 5: all these other things, blackmail, he did all these things.
Speaker 5: He's doing that that's why she stayed. She's not about
Speaker 5: to be held accountable for making a choice to still stay.
Speaker 5: Even if you're afraid, you're still making a choice.
Speaker 1: See, I watched too much SVU, dog, So I can't
Speaker 1: even give you an honest answer. And I'm not going
Speaker 1: to even respond to that logically because I don't have
Speaker 1: a logical process. I would literally repeat something that I
Speaker 1: heard in SVU, you know what I mean. So look,
Speaker 1: that's a nuanced conversation that I don't have enough information
Speaker 1: to have, you know what I mean. But why she
Speaker 1: stayed with him could definitely be out of fear, and
Speaker 1: it could be out of the fact that she likes
Speaker 1: the comfortable lifestyle. And I don't think neither should be negated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they both could be true.
Speaker 1: And it's probably both are true. Now, the fear part,
Speaker 1: I don't know because I would. I don't know Puff
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know Puff as this monster. Puff
Speaker 1: came whip my ass. No, no disrespect Puff. If you
Speaker 1: heard this podcast, Puff couldn't whoop my ass. So I'd
Speaker 1: never be scared of Puff. It's niggas who came with
Speaker 1: my ass. I might, like, I think me and Shug
Speaker 1: is a good squabble. He could win or I might win,
Speaker 1: But I'm not like I'd be more scared of Should
Speaker 1: than I would be a Puff, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: if I had to have fear, I'd be like that
Speaker 1: big old nigga that's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be a bob. It's gonna it's gonna hurt.
Speaker 1: This is gonna come, It may hurt, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So but I just look at Puff, so
Speaker 1: I could never see Puff from that for tea ladies eyes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: those things are not true, like because we don't know exactly,
Speaker 1: I believe her that he kicked her ass before.
Speaker 2: Well, when we all know niggas, couples.
Speaker 1: Fight, Yeah, people fight, and she probably was on the
Speaker 1: losing in Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people act like nigga couples fight.
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm all into yep. I always say that
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not not acknowledging that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: I stand with you on that. What I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: let's say that's true. Let's say he kicked her ass.
Speaker 1: Let's say she lost the fight, right, they want to it,
Speaker 1: she lost the fight. I don't know if I'm connecting
Speaker 1: that to you. Gonna do whatever I'm gonna say because
Speaker 1: you think I'm gonna kick my ass and see that's
Speaker 1: hard for me because I don't think one plus one
Speaker 1: equals two. Yeah, but they connected that, sure, sure, Sure
Speaker 1: that's the that's just what he gotta be fitter kicking
Speaker 1: her ass over set. I'm not in that.
Speaker 5: There all the nigga all that's factor when nigga, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, young man, then you got other
Speaker 5: niggas tell the stories.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like do you feel like people weaponizing
Speaker 1: their celebrity to get what they want? Is that wrong?
Speaker 2: Is it wrong?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you feel like morally that's wrong?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: Because we are if we if we really just break
Speaker 5: down life and just even in our regular life. Somebody
Speaker 5: that weaponized something that they they embody or possessed to
Speaker 5: get what they want. I just think they're they are
Speaker 5: being seen, you know what I'm saying, Like, didre weaponize
Speaker 5: her beauty and her sex?
Speaker 2: And in the game she.
Speaker 5: Had came across you know what I'm saying, and had
Speaker 5: that little boy put a baby in it.
Speaker 1: He said he got babies with two other girls too, coming.
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm saying. But you know she
Speaker 2: a girl though, so they ain't gonna look at it
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, you see some outrage on her and comments,
Speaker 5: but for the most part, they like, man.
Speaker 1: I was just as he just got his old girl prayer,
Speaker 1: He got all his girls prayer, he got all he
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, he out there by the boy Jay
Speaker 1: out there, shout out to Jay.
Speaker 5: I don't know, Man, you can say the weaponizing, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like, boy, get out of here.
Speaker 2: But you can't say nothing about women. Bro.
Speaker 5: If you ain't calling them beautiful, gorgeous, perfect, you really
Speaker 5: ain't supposed to say shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely where we're at in society. What do
Speaker 1: you generally feel about this, like sex trafficking based off
Speaker 1: of the definition I gave you on the federal level,
Speaker 1: do you think that that's do you think that what
Speaker 1: if you had to pick because Joey, between what I
Speaker 1: explained about the federal statue of sex trafficking, sex trafficking
Speaker 1: is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting
Speaker 1: of a person for the purposes of a commercial sex act,
Speaker 1: in which the commercial sect in which the commercial sex
Speaker 1: act is induced by force, fraud, or corrosion, or in
Speaker 1: which the person induced to perform such an act has
Speaker 1: not attained eighteen years of age. If again, because this
Speaker 1: is somebody life, but if he was guilty federally of
Speaker 1: one of those, which part would you think it would be.
Speaker 2: Him? Just him transporting some pussy?
Speaker 1: Like but see, but I just don't know how you
Speaker 1: wrap that into commercial.
Speaker 5: Well, it's probably just because he the fact that he's
Speaker 5: just rich and he has money. So people feel like
Speaker 5: that's just these things are happening just because he is
Speaker 5: who he is and he have money.
Speaker 1: That is I don't know, it is that loose to interpretation,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I don't know if he's paying, Like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna shoot you this bread and all that.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind that these niggas be
Speaker 2: buying bitches.
Speaker 1: I would feel no disappointed if Puff was paying for pussy.
Speaker 5: I mean, what what probably not like, hey, look I'm
Speaker 5: gonna pay you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna fuck me.
Speaker 5: But it's like I'm diddy, so you you money, just
Speaker 5: come with me being diddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you probably I didn't heart.
Speaker 5: I didn't hear niggas say like women that come kicking
Speaker 5: and you know, yeah, you know, yeah, shoot him a
Speaker 5: couple of shoot him a thousand of dollars or something
Speaker 5: like that. Man, just because off GP. It just make
Speaker 5: things go smoother. You may not have like negotiated it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't believe Puff is paying for pussy.
Speaker 1: Now now listen why they.
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: Why would I would be so outrage if somebody told
Speaker 1: me I had to pay for pussy.
Speaker 2: If I was, well, you don't, you don't have to,
Speaker 2: But people choose to.
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me she don't want to fuck
Speaker 1: me for free?
Speaker 5: They's it's a possibility that is bitches that don't want
Speaker 5: to fuck.
Speaker 2: You for free?
Speaker 1: For real?
Speaker 5: If you Puff, I'm pretty sure it's bitches that don't
Speaker 5: want to willingly fuck Puff.
Speaker 1: There's women who don't willingly want to sleep with Puff Daddy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's women, But then you got holes right who
Speaker 5: will and they like are either gonna do it for
Speaker 5: the bread or for the stature or for whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm the lifestyle and he's paying at that point.
Speaker 1: So you think he could have paid for some pussy?
Speaker 2: Now, now do I think uh puffy on fig?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying on fig. But he paying,
Speaker 1: so you genuinely believe he could have been paying uh
Speaker 1: uh escort?
Speaker 5: I believe he paid for escort before. Yes, wouldn't I
Speaker 5: wouldn't doubt that. I wouldn't doubt that. Niggas don't have
Speaker 5: They probably have parties and pay a lot at escorts.
Speaker 5: Pull up, I'm gonna fly, y'all out, y'all know what's happening.
Speaker 5: Do y'all think money here? Y'all good?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: For sure?
Speaker 1: Shit then he goddamn so this whole episode. But I
Speaker 1: just feel dumb because at that point, federally, to the
Speaker 1: letter of the law, not the spirit of it, but
Speaker 1: to the letter of the law, he would probably be
Speaker 1: guilty if he flew some girls out. It was like, like,
Speaker 1: let's say he paid some girls that was like dancers
Speaker 1: or got out I to come out and fuck with us,
Speaker 1: and five for y'all and this five of us and
Speaker 1: I'm flying y'all out. That would be sex trafficking on
Speaker 1: the federal level.
Speaker 5: As regular as it is, and it don't really be
Speaker 5: no big thing, but in the sense of this, and
Speaker 5: it's daddy the public outrage and you got people who
Speaker 5: just they didn't already painted this picture. I mean, they
Speaker 5: calling the nigga gay every like, they just they dogging
Speaker 5: a nigga. And I don't know what he didne did
Speaker 5: to people. You feel me, I ain't never been signed
Speaker 5: a bad boy, but they just dogging a nigga. It
Speaker 5: ain't nobody speaking up for him.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just me like and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't even fuck with this nigga.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but see we yeah, but you yeah, man, ain't
Speaker 5: nobody speaking for that nigga.
Speaker 2: Man, because everybody else worried about they checks and or.
Speaker 1: Worried about how people go see them.
Speaker 5: Oh, they definitely believe that, Oh for sure that it's
Speaker 5: a lot of that. Because you could talk to some
Speaker 5: of these dudes behind closed doors and they know what's up.
Speaker 5: You'd be like, damn nigga, But you can't say that
Speaker 5: because you know you're attached to this corporation, or you.
Speaker 2: Really just don't want to deal with being looked at
Speaker 2: a certain way.
Speaker 1: I just really feel like I cannot be the only
Speaker 1: reasonable real nigga in the room.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: You mean, everybody on dope, everybody drink drunk, everybody is
Speaker 1: being sexual shit everybody.
Speaker 2: No, everybody not on it.
Speaker 5: But you definitely when it comes to just having your
Speaker 5: own thoughts and and and even just reading things, like
Speaker 5: even just reading that definition you read like three or
Speaker 5: four times right now, I don't think most people are
Speaker 5: even doing that.
Speaker 1: Which brought me to the thing off he possibly could
Speaker 1: be guilty. I can't just say I don't believe he's guilty, you.
Speaker 5: Know, because now that you have the definition of what
Speaker 5: letter is the letter letter, Now that you have this,
Speaker 5: it's damn near it's damn near impossible.
Speaker 2: For him to probably not ever traffic.
Speaker 1: That's true, Like Van just said, the letter of the
Speaker 1: law versus the spirits.
Speaker 2: Biggas rap about flying bitches out all the time.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you know they paying and you, nigga.
Speaker 2: You ain't even flying them out.
Speaker 1: The fuck.
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to believe niggas flying out bitches
Speaker 5: and not wanting to fuck him. M and when like
Speaker 5: when women be like, oh, why would a man expect that,
Speaker 5: It's like, why wouldnety, why would he fly you out?
Speaker 2: Are you are y'all dating? Like?
Speaker 5: Is he trying to really? Is he looking to marry you?
Speaker 5: Are y'all court on Instagram? You on Instagram? Ass out
Speaker 5: till he's out. He get at you and fly you
Speaker 5: out and you don't think he expecting the fuck. That's crazy.
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