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Speaker 2: I'll give you the Red Light Spath show all through

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Speaker 2: the night. Welcome back, Little Mamas and gentiles alike to

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Speaker 2: another episode of My Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 3: The podcast when we dive deep, deep into the fucking

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Speaker 3: to black conspiracy theories and.

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Speaker 2: We primally worked, we finally I can talk, and we

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Speaker 2: finally and we finally worked to prove the theories of you,

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Speaker 2: the listeners, the little mamas. That's what you're called, forever

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Speaker 2: and ever now, whether or not you like it, your

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Speaker 2: lip classes, popping your lip class is cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm walking up to grown men and identifying you as

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Speaker 3: little alms that show, so take it.

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Speaker 2: I've had a few people identify themselves as little Mamas

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate it. It's nice.

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Speaker 3: It's really nice.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty dope. When speaking to people, I want to

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Speaker 2: say shout out. So they came to our Chicago show

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Speaker 2: and then they doubled back and came to see me

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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. Bro. They brought me. They brought me a

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Speaker 2: seafood pop pie whoa crab and shrimp in the top

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Speaker 2: cheddar Bay biscuits.

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Speaker 3: WHOA, yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was so shadow.

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Speaker 3: I know you could do that.

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Speaker 2: It's I it's a new genre. I used the new genre.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know seafood pop pie was a thing first

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Speaker 3: and foremost. I thought it was strictly chicken or beef.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know. And then to advance that a step

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Speaker 3: further and make it cheddar bay biscuit crust, is that's nuts?

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Speaker 3: They living in the future.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the best it was. I think

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Speaker 2: it was the best plate thing I got. Bro, this

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Speaker 2: is embarrassing. I got back to the hotel. I didn't

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Speaker 2: even have a I have a fork because it was

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Speaker 2: like a So, this is bad. This is bad. You

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Speaker 2: know how they you know how they have the notepad

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Speaker 2: in the hotel sometimes they have a notepad. I pulled

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say two things. Number one, I was scared

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Speaker 3: of You're gonna be like, so I ate that pie

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Speaker 3: like Yogi bear. No, I was gonna make me fucking

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Speaker 3: said no. And then as you were describing what you made,

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Speaker 3: and it was like, oh no, he's going to roll

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Speaker 3: it into like a funnel and then like scoop it

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Speaker 3: like a like he's pouring it in like a pixie stick.

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Speaker 2: And that's a serious question. What do you think of me?

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Speaker 3: This isn't a reflection of you. It's more just where

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Speaker 3: my imagination goes. Motherfucker's talk.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, both those would be so so bad. No,

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Speaker 2: it was you.

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Speaker 3: Wrink a pot pie like a straw through the back

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Speaker 3: of a fucking post it noteboard. That's pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I wouldn't have told you if that

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Speaker 2: would it would have been would happen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, And I thank you for keeping some things private.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. No, there's got to be a level

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Speaker 2: of you know, my life is my life?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we get to this email.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got an email today. I'm very excited about it.

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Speaker 2: It's from mail.

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Speaker 3: You ready for this, Yeah, I'm ready?

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Speaker 2: All right. The subject line is Drake is not a

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Speaker 2: rapper dot dot dot he is an actor.

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Speaker 3: Already very aggressive right from the start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, already intrigued. All right, Hello Jans, that's a decent address.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for reading my last email. Appreciate you. Both trying

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Speaker 2: to elevate our collective consciousness on time. Even if you

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Speaker 2: both disagreed with my universal truth. He disagreed, sounds like

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Speaker 2: the truth is a universal man.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like two niggas in the universe that you listen to.

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Speaker 2: Onto the business at hand. I've held this thought for

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Speaker 2: quite some time that Drake is not an actual rapper.

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Speaker 2: He is actually a method actor creating the longest running

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Speaker 2: performance art installation in history.

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Speaker 3: WHOA.

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Speaker 2: I did not have strong evidence of this until a

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Speaker 2: recent kerfuffle he had with a clairvoyant who goes by

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Speaker 2: the name Joe Budden. Dude, let me just get through

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Speaker 2: the email first. Yeah, until a recent with a clairevoyant

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Speaker 2: who goes by the name of Chi Budden. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure if you are familiar with his predictions. He had

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Speaker 2: one on DJ Envy.

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Speaker 3: You really are struggling here, and that Joe button be

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Speaker 3: right sometimes you don't even want that for him at all.

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Speaker 2: Broken clock is right twice a day. I did not

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Speaker 2: have strong evidence of this, and the sun even shines

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Speaker 2: on the dog's ass. I did not have no. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why I'm cleming so aggressive. I actually really

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Speaker 2: like Joe Budden I've always been a fan of his music.

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Speaker 3: He's an interesting character.

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Speaker 2: I like sad guys stuff. Well listen, so here we go. Drake,

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Speaker 2: who normally does not respond to critics, was incensed when

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Speaker 2: Joe Budden gave a negative critique of his latest album,

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Speaker 2: which was objectively sonically displeasing to most people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Drake's anger was not a result of Drake believing he

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Speaker 2: makes good music and was hurt by those comments. Naynay

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Speaker 2: I say.

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Speaker 3: Oh, boy, really makes you regret reading this email? Huh

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Speaker 3: because I got it?

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Speaker 2: Nynay I say it was because Joe had dared to

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Speaker 2: parse his lips, lips that have only uttered one hit,

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Speaker 2: Pump it Up, and frankly just blazed at the heavy

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Speaker 2: lifting on that track. I digress. I do not want

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Speaker 2: to get distracted from the point it was that Joe

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Speaker 2: was onto the way Drake makes music. Drake's music is

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Speaker 2: not from the heart. Rather, it is movie storytelling, very

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Speaker 2: similar to the Fast and Furious movies. Fantastical featuring characters

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Speaker 2: that are telling stories they didn't kind of like an actor. Also,

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Speaker 2: how is it that Drake has never acted in anything

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Speaker 2: since The Grassi. One might say he has been acting

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Speaker 2: this whole time. Whoa you both are destined to make

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Speaker 2: it as your initial spell. Good luck, amazing job on

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Speaker 2: the pod. Keep up the great work. G Bori Oo

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Speaker 2: d David Langston Oh Okaykerman, good look.

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Speaker 3: But okay, there's a lot to unpack here.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot to unpack here.

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Speaker 3: There's the suggestion of Drake being not in fact a

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Speaker 3: real artist and more just a manufacturer of music as

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Speaker 3: a performance art piece. And I don't know that I

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Speaker 3: think of Drake as in any way that kind of

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Speaker 3: he's ever been art like even kind of underground version

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Speaker 3: of what art could be, or like high end thoughtful pieces.

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Speaker 3: He's like, he's the art that everybody likes. That it's

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Speaker 3: just objective, easy, easily palatable. We all agree this is

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Speaker 2: I think so? I think I think for the most part,

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Speaker 2: Drake is living in his truth. I think he I

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Speaker 2: is like I don't I don't think there's a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously sometimes some of the like gangster bars

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's just him fussing at women exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's why. That's that's why I'm like, this is pretty realistic,

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Speaker 2: even when you hear him talk about like, yeah, I've

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Speaker 2: just like, I don't the things he's doing aren't so

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Speaker 2: according to them, have never never taken an l or

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Speaker 3: It's like the Nas shit. People are constantly saying Nas

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Speaker 3: didn't live the life that he raps about whatever. But

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Speaker 3: Drake is like, yeah, I just ate a lady out

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Speaker 3: and then I decided I don't want to call her

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Speaker 3: no more soa I'm gonna make a song about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I spent a bunch of money on her and

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Speaker 2: by that. Like, you know what I mean, the things

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Speaker 2: he's the thing, so the things that he's speaking to.

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Speaker 2: I don't think are so are so overblown that they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think when I think about some of

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Speaker 3: Joe Budden of it all, I think one of the

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Speaker 3: things I remember seeing in this Joe Butden controversy was

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Speaker 3: Says that he's upset because Joe Budden was calling out

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Speaker 2: Right. I think also there's a level of like. I

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Speaker 3: I was about saying, and somebody on Twitter pointed this out,

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Speaker 3: Like he he rarely says negative critiques of Drake's shit,

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Speaker 3: and even when he does, it's a lot of him

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Speaker 3: being like Nigga. I hope, I hope he can keep

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Speaker 3: the magic going because he's so fucking unbeatable at this game.

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Speaker 3: More than it is him being like, oh, this Nigga's whack.

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't be listening. He's like a big fan, so

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Speaker 3: for him to be like this is whack. It's not

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Speaker 3: not coming from like a genuine disappointment more than like

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Speaker 3: I'm just fucking with you to fuck with you shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Drake. I think he just

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Speaker 2: it actually made him sad. And I think that and

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Speaker 2: to speak to your point earlier, Yeah, man, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's that type of artist. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's concerned with art in that way. Neither

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Speaker 2: of no Stadnybody, no rapper or not no rapper, but

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, Drake sells hit records.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think even if they if this

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Speaker 3: three decades and whatever the fuck. But Drake's just a

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Speaker 2: And I think so, man, I think that's okay. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That said, I do really wish Drake would cut

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be crazy if famous comedians now had that feeling?

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, because I like. The thing I liked

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Speaker 2: I think that's why it's like hard for people to

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Speaker 3: I say all that to say I think Drake, to

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the difficult thing about this, right

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Speaker 2: It's like you're gonna always love your kids. You can

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Speaker 2: That said space for him. But this is what he does,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're still in it. We're still in even

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Speaker 3: And we still see too many of the gods present

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Speaker 2: Youth already are. Yeah, think about it. If you're twenty five,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you know, there's no art form

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Speaker 2: It just is.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't now if you want to talk about it

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Speaker 2: Do you not think Citizens Sane is great?

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Speaker 3: I don't have any appreciation for it, And part of

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Speaker 3: But I fucking.

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Speaker 2: Are there any old movies that you think are great? Like?

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they suck. I just don't think

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? It's not that.

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Speaker 3: I'm too far past what this art used to look

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Speaker 3: I can appreciate the way this motherfucker's moving at his best,

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Speaker 3: not at his latest.

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Speaker 2: I also, and not to drag this conversation out too long,

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Speaker 2: I also think that stand up is maybe a lot

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Speaker 2: more timely than most art forms, so that that that

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Speaker 2: becomes the difficulty in it. Like there's stuff, some stuff

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Speaker 2: is just of the time. We're never gonna understand how

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Speaker 2: funny Dice Clay was when you hadn't seen anything like

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Speaker 2: that in eighty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you didn't have any rules in your head

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Speaker 3: about what cannon cannot be said.

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Speaker 2: Or even what comedy is or whatever it is. Just

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Speaker 2: a dude talking you. So it's like and we can't

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Speaker 2: and and just like and even even now, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, it's like nobody to me at least,

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Speaker 2: who's who. Nobody's ever gonna be funnier if you weren't there,

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Speaker 2: then you don't know how huge elephant in the room was.

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Speaker 2: And I personally think he's the best of all time,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's just like so

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Speaker 2: much of it is attached to time with stand up

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Speaker 2: and and like you have to know like social how

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Speaker 2: society was going at the time and shit like that.

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Speaker 2: So it's like that's why I think it's different. But

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Speaker 2: that but that's why you're right. That's why you're right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if we extend it beyond stand up,

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Speaker 3: because I do agree with you, it's more timely than

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Speaker 3: most art forms. But like even the ones that are

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Speaker 3: less timely still suffer from the same thing. I e. Films,

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Speaker 3: I e. Music, I even fucking painting, do you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Like fucking Leonardo da Vinci can't make Coco,

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Speaker 3: Like he just can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about music though, man. I went to

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Speaker 2: the Symphony for the first time this year and it's

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Speaker 2: like seeing it in the hall, the concert hall, where

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Speaker 2: the acoustics are what it's supposed to be, and like

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Speaker 2: hearing it all like the sound of ten violins. It

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Speaker 2: wants and shit like that. I think it's his. I

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Speaker 2: think it rivals any music that anybody's making. That. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I really, I really do feel that way, like the

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Speaker 2: idea of being moved or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Well, our next guess, Sexy Red is gonna have two

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Speaker 3: things to say about that. She is not gonna care

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Speaker 3: for that. Take one bit, bitch. She makes the best

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Speaker 3: music you know. Listen, there was due to a feces

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Speaker 3: thrown all over the walls, the floor, the ceiling, and

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Speaker 3: a stunk so bad.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to do that because I feel like

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Speaker 2: we got further under the pretentious art conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think it's important, and as it

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Speaker 3: relates to this conspiracy theory, I think largely it seems

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Speaker 3: like you and I agree that while Drake is a

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Speaker 3: pretty phenomenal artist, he ain't a art for art's sake,

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Speaker 3: ass dude, and probably does not have the ability or

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Speaker 3: foresight to uh to be able to pull this little

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Speaker 3: number off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's okay because neither am I, nor do I,

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Speaker 2: So I don't really you'll know that.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not seeking out that artist at all. And

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Speaker 3: so yeah, I'm grateful that Drake exists. Yeah, to give

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Speaker 3: me just that that sweet commercial music. I've been craving

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Speaker 3: my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it tastes good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, I think we did it. I think that

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Speaker 3: that covers that you want to tell the people where

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Speaker 3: they can find you and what cool shit you have going.

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Speaker 2: On, cool guy Joke City seven on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to follow me and complain to

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Speaker 3: me personally, you can send it all to you can

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Speaker 3: follow me at Langston Kerman. And then if you want

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Speaker 3: to send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 3: if you want to tell us that you have definitive

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Speaker 3: proof of Drake's intent to scam us through art, send

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Speaker 3: it all to my Mama pod at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: We would love to hear from you, like subscribe, do

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Speaker 3: the shit, don't make us ask you again. Bye, bitch.

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Speaker 1: Well the episode, well, the fucking mini episode, well, the

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Speaker 1: fucking mini episode, mini episode, all the fucking mini ever

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