1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: It's one of our most favorite days of the year. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: This year, we've been lucky, haven't we. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, a couple of days of the year. 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this year is really nice day. We have Kaitlyn 7 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Brisso on the show, as promised, the star one of 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: the stars of the latest episode of The Golden Bachelorette. 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: Hello Kaitlyn. 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 4: Hi, guys. Oh my gosh, I love seeing your faces. 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: We love having you here. 12 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Can we create a headline today? 13 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: We probably will. I'm sure it'll happen. You guys are 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 4: good at that. You guys are good at that. 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Thank you. Well, you might be the queen of it. 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the queen. Might be good. 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 5: All right, Well, Caitlin, we first want to talk about 18 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 5: you being part of this absolutely hilarious, so entertaining Chippendale's. 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Date that you're part of. Do you why do you 20 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: think they call you for a date like this? 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: Oh lord, we all know. I'm pigeonholed as the Big 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: six ueal Bachelorette. It's so funny because I actually was 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 4: asked to do the previous one, so they asked me 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 4: to be the on the date before the one for 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 4: the Talent Show because I was on Gary's Talent Show. 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: So they're like, oh, do you want to come back 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 4: for the Talent Show. It's like yeah, great, and then 28 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 4: the dates didn't work out, and then they're like, wait 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 4: a second, you have to be part of the Chippendales. 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, here we go. And then 31 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: but then they were like, we're actually doing it for 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: a cause and raising money for cancer, and I was like, 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 4: I'm in. I'm so in. 34 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's it's nice that they did that, because if not, 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: this date could have just been like a weird misplacement. 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this when I watched it. You 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: were such a star as the Bachelorette. You've done so 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: many things post show that have increased your stardom. But 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: there is a period of time where like you and 40 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: the show did not necessarily get along. 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: When did that like heal up or has it ever 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: healed up? Has it ever been confronted like is there 44 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: a conversation that takes place what's happened? 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: No? I think I think it's just one of those 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: things where time like goes on and I think I 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: mean if you this is this always ages us. But 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: like if you think about how long ago it was 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: that my season was on, I don't think they understood 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: like the any press is good press kind of mentality, 51 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: and I think they like wanted me to be roped 52 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: in into this box of trying to make me somebody 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't, and I think they're just like, you know what, 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: let her go and like bring her back. People are 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 4: clearly still talking about her, so like, let's bring her back. 56 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: And I think it just was kind of one of 57 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 4: those things where everyone just moved on from shit weird 58 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 4: shit coming out of my mouth. I don't know. 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's talk about these guys striping. 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: Honestly, it was incredible. 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: Jonathan was absolutely ridiculous. Jonathan has on this before. I 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: don't care what he says. 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: He has done this before, whether it be in another 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: lifetime or in. 66 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: The privacy of his bedroom. 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 4: But it was bedroom and this is like I know 68 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: Keith's long dream to be a Chippendale, but like that 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: he knew what he was doing. 70 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was wild. 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: It was wild. 72 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: It is I need a little bit before we dive 73 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: into these guys, because I do think it's fun to 74 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: talk about I'm dancing, Like, what's this set up here? 75 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: It just felt like they kind of all like leaned 76 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: into it right away and said, all right, let's get 77 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: a costume on, let's dance. 78 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think it was the shift in the room 79 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: was when we said that it was going to be 80 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: for a bigger cause. Because you see so many episodes 81 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: of Bachelor and Bachelorette making, you know, guys strip or girls, 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: you know, like the fighting dates and like certain things 83 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: that it's just like, there, oh, why are we still 84 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: doing this? Were this one? It was kind of like 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: everybody surrendered to it when they realized that it was 86 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: for a cause that is near and dear to Jones heart, 87 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: and how she'd just opened up, you know, to them 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: and really showed emotions, and I think they were like, 89 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: let's have fun with this. 90 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: Did you talk to any of the guys off of 91 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: the stage, Yeah, oh, all of them. 92 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with Gary. Gary is like the nicest, 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: full of life, funny like Gary as. 94 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: You like to call God him as Goldie. 95 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: He's I love him, I love him. But yeah, they 96 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 4: I talked to a few of them off off camera 97 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: and they're just I mean, every single one of them. 98 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: I'm like the fine news man, like, yeah, they're great. 99 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, how is Charles? 100 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: Charles was everything that you would ever expect him to 101 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: be and more I am. I just did a podcast 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: and we went through like, piece by piece of this episode. 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: I cried five times in the podcast, mostly talking about Charles, 104 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: just because I'm with him. 105 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: I want to hear your guys thought there, because I 106 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: was thinking about this last night, and my wife loves Charles, yeah, 107 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: and makes she like she just like feels something different 108 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: for him than she has, like for any other guy 109 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: on the season, Like she just like has a place 110 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: in her heart for him. I can tell. So what 111 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: do we do with the Charles of the world on 112 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: this show? Now? I mean, and I don't want the 113 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: easy answer to be, Oh, Paradise, it's gonna be great. 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if that works for him. 115 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: So no, no, no, I need, like. 116 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: Your guys expertise and creativeness. What do we do with 117 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: the Charles of the world. There are gyms for the 118 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: show that are good for the show, that are real 119 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: humans who most people can relate with, but don't fit 120 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: the mold of reality television. 121 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: We protect him and we put him in I don't 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: know in all of our interviews, like I just I 123 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: want good things for him. Well, I want good things 124 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: for all of them. To be honest with you, there's 125 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: not one of them that I don't like. But Charles 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: just is one of those guys you know, you know 127 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 4: the saying of like protect that at all costs, that's 128 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: literally Charles. I don't want to do much with him. 129 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: I want to punt. 130 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: I think there's many people who deserve him. 131 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: No, no, oh, that's a good. Wait, maybe we find 132 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: somebody who we think Maybe we do like. 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: A matchmaking show, so it's not like he has a 134 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: big group, but like everybody has, like find somebody that 135 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: is just so amazing, like go on dates and it's 136 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 5: less of like. 137 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: A selection process. Yeah. 138 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: I think that's what we do. We just we find him, 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: put him on TV the love that he deserves. Charles 140 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: for Bachelor, I just want to watch him. I know, 141 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: I know, I was very blessed to be in his 142 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: presence for that for that date. I was I looked. 143 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: I remember looking at Joan and being like, I'm I 144 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: love Charles. She goes the world's gonna love Charles. 145 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: Okay, what about Mark? 146 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 5: Must talk about Mark, who talked about Bachelor contenders called 147 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: a dilf. 148 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: I can't believe. I can't, Yes, I can, I can. 149 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I mean, that's that's a hard like, 150 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 5: you know, because when you really break down the words 151 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 5: of what a dilf means, you're like, oh, wow, that's 152 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: that's that's a statement. 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: No, Caitlin just said you want to mess around. It's 154 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: not like she shouldn't go all the way. She said, 155 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: you like around. 156 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: School around him, and I meant like on a golf course, 157 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: like maybe on the pickleball court, like just fool around 158 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: like a dad I'd like to pool around with. 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 5: Like a fifty nine year old that, like you don't 160 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 5: feel weird about imagining well romantic. 161 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: Here's the thing I was saying it for Joan. I 162 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: wasn't saying he's a dad I'd like to fool around with. 163 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: I was saying he's a dilf in the sense of 164 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: like that sometimes I do forget what that what that means. 165 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: But I was like for Joan, and then I was 166 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: so glad that they showed me to be like, don't 167 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: air that like don't show me saying that. 168 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: It was a good moment. Yeah, thanks for the clarity. 169 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: So you're saying it for Joan, let's just be clear. 170 00:07:59,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: You're speaking. 171 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: My god, Yes, I see him as like a precious 172 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: dad figure who like is so sweet and like obviously 173 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: very handsome. But I was saying for Joan he is 174 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: a dilf. 175 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 176 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: So do we think he could be the future Golden Bachelor? 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: Do you think that's where they want him to be? 178 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: Ooh, good question. I could see it. I feel like 179 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: he's just like his demeanor and uh, just the way 180 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: he carries himself is so. I feel like he's pure. 181 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: I feel like he's a good dad. I feel like 182 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: he's handsome. He's got all of the qualities to make 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 4: a great Golden Bachelor. 184 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Would I ask you the other day, Ashley that 185 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: you got mad at me for asking you? 186 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 187 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 5: He asked if Mark made me tingly and exactly Caitlin 188 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: and then are I was like, are you asking if 189 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: he turns me on? And like he was like no, 190 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: does he like give you warm and fuzzies? And we're like, 191 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: ben tingly does not mean that I learned. 192 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: Something that day? 193 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: Tell me you don't have a vagina without tell me 194 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: you don't have a vagina. The tingles are a real thing, 195 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 4: and no, that is not happening in the heart. Those 196 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: are called like Warman fuzzies. 197 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Warman fuzzies. Yeah, I've changed my. 198 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: No. I wouldn't like that either. That's that's why I 199 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: felt so uncomfortable that they aired me saying that he 200 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: was a dilp, because I was like, obviously, I'm not 201 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: talking about for me. I don't think he's a dilp. 202 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 4: I think he's a delt for Joan, classic classic. 203 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: Who else? Who else was on the State that stood 204 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: out well? Scal Oh my god. 205 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: Oh chalk, yes, chalk was so I was trying to 206 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: think because I don't like spoilers ever, no matter what, 207 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: I don't like spoilers. So I was trying to watch. 208 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: I told Joan, don't tell me anything. Don't tell me 209 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: who like your number one is or your like number 210 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: top three. I don't want to know. I want to 211 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: watch your interactions with them, and I want to see 212 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: how they interact with you, and like, just watch them 213 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: in general. And I pascal to me, they've definitely vibed. 214 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: And I saw some major chemistry until the end of 215 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: the episode. Watching it back, I was like, oh, but 216 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: in that moment, I saw chemistry from them, and then 217 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: Chalk was like the most undeniable chemistry, which clearly plays 218 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: through on the show as well. 219 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: The Pascal thing is interesting because at the Rose ceremony 220 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 5: later in the episode Cocktail Party, Yeah, she seemed like 221 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: annoyed that he wasn't giving her more attention or like 222 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: wasn't being as a not you know, like a yeah. 223 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. He called it aggressive. He said he didn't want 224 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: to be aggressive. 225 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and like you could tell that she wants his attention, 226 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 5: and that's a sign for us ladies, you know that 227 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 5: she might be there for a while. 228 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: I but I didn't. I didn't like that moment from him. 229 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: But I liked that moment from her because I felt 230 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: like she wasn't being like oh my god, what she 231 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: was like, well, this is how you know, she kind 232 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: of stood up for herself in that moment, and he 233 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: was kind of like hinting, give me more time, and 234 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: she's like, you're on. 235 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: You, Vachel to come and get me. Yeah, yeah, which 236 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: I appreciate that as well. 237 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: You're right, yeah, I get it. He's funny. He's a 238 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: bougie guy. He's he's just a straight up bougie Frenchman. 239 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: I love it, but I know it's tricky to work with. 240 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: On the show Shock, we you know, always more ripped 241 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: than I expected. 242 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: Can I say that he took a shirt? 243 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, honestly, and can we like 244 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: give it up for seeing different body types on the 245 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: show for once? 246 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all looking really good. 247 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: They honestly all owned the the you know, ripping off 248 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: the shirt and being who they were. I just I 249 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: just loved watching all of it because you could just 250 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: tell these men like benefited from vulnerability. Like they were like, 251 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: we've all bonded, We've all like gone through some hard 252 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 4: shit in life. We've all like talked about our feelings 253 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: every day. Now we're gonna dance and we're gonna do 254 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: some research and raise money for cancer. Like they were 255 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: just it felt like they were revived and getting like 256 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, like past you know, midlife crisis. They're 257 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 4: like on the other end of that where they're just 258 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: like we still have time, like we're good. And I 259 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: loved watching it. I just this whole show just makes 260 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: me feel so much joy. 261 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: How did they raise the money. Was it ticket sales? 262 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 4: Yes? 263 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay that's what I thought, because I was like 264 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: I would pay good money to be at that date. 265 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was so much fun. Ben It did not 266 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: make me tingling. 267 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 4: But I love like the guys being like, you know, 268 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: just getting giving the crowd some butt things and they're 269 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: like so innocent, but then they're like between her legs. 270 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: I know, I know they can. 271 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: We were saying in our other recap episode that like 272 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: these guys can get away with so much more than 273 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: the younger guys can. 274 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: And it's just so sweet to watch so them, Like 275 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: I just feel like I'm on such a journey watch 276 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: them because the show, the show with the high highs 277 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: and the low lows of what these people have gone 278 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: through and what they are still going through and experiencing 279 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: this like raw emotion without cheesy music in the background, 280 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: and hearing Chalk just like cry and going through his 281 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: loss in that moment with him, Like, the show just 282 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: cracks me open, wide open, Yo. 283 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: You're so right. They don't got the music behind them. 284 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 5: We get as soon as we do something like Villainous 285 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 5: and then they're just like we're just living life with 286 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: how are you guys putting any sort of vibes in 287 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 5: our head. 288 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 4: It feels real. 289 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: Now this is jumping ahead and not a really even 290 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: a reasonable conversation to have. But we saw it with 291 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: even Gary season, the women that came off that season, 292 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: the joy that they have now, the friendships they built, 293 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: the fun that they have. Caitlyn, you've been able to 294 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: be around him, obviously, Ashley and myself have been able 295 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: to be around them. They're just a ton of fun 296 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: and they're still living a very exciting like life after show. Yeah, 297 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: we're seeing this with these men. I don't think it 298 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: will change for them. I just hope the show at 299 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: some point doesn't say, you know, would be really good? 300 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: Is if we found a villain? I think it would 301 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: ruin so much. I just want this to be the 302 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: ethos of why we tune into the Golden Show every season. 303 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: Is the joy, the story, the hope, the relatability, the 304 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: love story. Like those things, and keep it consistent because 305 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: I think it could have a twenty year run, just 306 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: like the regular show. If it stays that. 307 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: Way, I well, hopefully by that time I could be 308 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: the Golden Bachelorette's. 309 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: So much more for you. We want you to meet somebody. 310 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: That guys a second. 311 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: You know, that's what people want. People want, like the 312 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: forty five year old Bachelorette. 313 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: Now I'm close, But you know what, Like I agree, 314 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: we got a little bit of a villain on The 315 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 4: Golden Bachelor, like Kathy being you know, selling people to 316 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: zip it or whatever that was. But I I don't 317 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: know if they can make a villain out of any 318 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: of these men, And if they do, I'm going to 319 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: be highly disappointed because they would have had to really 320 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 4: like craft that up, like it wouldn't be genuine, because, 321 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: like you, the brotherhood going on in that mansion is 322 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: so beautiful, and I just like the ending when they 323 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 4: all came out and like hugged Charles and he was 324 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: so happy, and I was like, oh my god, I 325 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: cried so many times. 326 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: I know, it was just the sweetest moment I've ever seen. 327 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: The sweetest woman ever. 328 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: Before we move on to more about you, Caitlin, I 329 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: just need a group conversation right now about how much 330 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: Chok sounds like Peyton Manning. Like we've brought it up before, 331 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 5: you really need to like talk about this because I've 332 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: never heard somebody's voice come out of somebody else like this. 333 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: That's so I feel like, I is this a thing 334 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: on the internet, Like do people notice? 335 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 336 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: Okay, because I don't know what Peyton Manning sounds like. 337 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: But is a football player? 338 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's like in every commercial there is a. 339 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: Football player arguably the best quarterback of all time. 340 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 5: Well, okay, that's that's very arguable, because that's definitely not 341 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: true of it. 342 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm Canadian. I don't know football players like you, folks. 343 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: It's been a while since you've been to a Buffalo game. 344 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: Huh Yeah, Buffalo Bills are dead to me. And I'm 345 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 4: just kidding. 346 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: Boy. 347 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: I went to a Phillies baseball game. Oh my gosh, 348 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: it was so fun. 349 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: Why were you in Philadelphia or that Southern Jersey area. 350 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: I really was just craving a Philly cheese steak and 351 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: I was in New York doing podcasts, and I said, hey, 352 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: it's just an hour and a half drive to get 353 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: a Philly cheese steak. So popped into a game while 354 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: I was at it. 355 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: Moved on from Buffalo and now into Philly jo Sticks. Hey. 356 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, I actually do still root for 357 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: the Bills. I feel like they're a fun team to 358 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: root for. 359 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: They are, You're right, Jared, like, is rooting for the 360 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: Bills over the Pageots these days because they're just more interesting. No, 361 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 5: They're just a little bit more interesting. I'm just an 362 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 5: NFL fan right now, not even like so much of it. 363 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: I just stand back and say, go Oilers hockey every day, 364 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: all day, Caitlin. 365 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: We do this every week on our show, and you've 366 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: been up close and personal, closer than Ashley or myself 367 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: have been able to be. We give our top three 368 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: each week, kind of going towards the rest of this season. Okay, 369 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued at what you're who your top three 370 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: would be. We're not going to tell you ours, but 371 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: your top three for the Golden Bachelorette. Moving on to 372 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: the week before Hometowns, I guess whatever we call that. 373 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: Okay, my top three is definitely Chalk Pascal and is. 374 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 5: It Jordan Jonathan Yeah, Jordan, Yeah, Chicago Jordan. 375 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: I told you I put him in my Yeah. 376 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 4: But isn't Jordan such a millennial name for that? 377 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, what about this man? Reeks youth to me? 378 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: Yes, it throws me off. 379 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, his voice sounds so young. I would just never 380 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: pin him as a sixty or something. 381 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 4: No, me, either doesn't add up. 382 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: She sounds young, he looks young. His name is young. Yeah, 383 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: so you said Pascal, So you have Pascal in the 384 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: in the top three for you well. 385 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: Only, But now it kind of changed once I saw 386 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: that the ending of this episode. But I'm gonna stick 387 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 4: with it because I saw their chemistry in person. 388 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: Okay, she's also not putting Mark in there anymore. 389 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: And I told you I think he's like on the 390 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: sliding slope. 391 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: I just. 392 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: Maybe we just haven't seen enough of their connection. But yeah, 393 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: I would like to see more. To be honest with. 394 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: You, He's definitely gonna get a one on one next week. Yeah, 395 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: that would be insane if he if he leaves without 396 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: getting one on one. 397 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: No, he's I'm only going to get a one on one, 398 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: and I hope he shines. I hope he shines. 399 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: I could see the argument, and the two of you 400 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: have been around a long time. I could see the 401 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: argument being we're seeing more of Mark than most cast 402 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: members because he is a star. He's very likable, he's 403 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: great for commentary, he is very sweet. Uh, and he 404 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: is being prepped to be the next lead and as 405 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: a result, his connection with Joan might be kind of 406 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: being overplayed to the audience and kind of picked up 407 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: a bit because of them wanting to use him later on. 408 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: Is that like you two right here? 409 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: Well, Caitlin, I had a great thing. 410 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 4: Oh, it had a great thing. 411 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: They're prepping then to be the bachelor. 412 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: I knew they wanted him to be the Bachelor. I 413 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 4: didn't want him to be the bachelor. 414 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 415 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: Wait, why because I wanted to be a final two. 416 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 4: I didn't want it to be this versus this. I 417 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: wanted Ben in there. 418 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: You had a terrible last couple of weeks. She had 419 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: no fun, no fun to be had for Kaitlin. She 420 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: had like a brawl to figure out. But yes, but yeah, 421 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: as a result, they said, hey, Sin beIN home. Like 422 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: that poor guy, he's just like hanging out drinking guinness 423 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: and like he's so lonely. He's not talk anybody. 424 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: So do you have soul clustody of the dogs? 425 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Now? 426 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: I do? 427 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: I am so scared at the time I do anything. Now, 428 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: I'm so scared because I'm like, I don't. I don't 429 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: know what else to say. I'm like, but yes, I do, Yes, I. 430 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: Do it's not public information yet. 431 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: No, it is. I did a solo podcast talking about it, 432 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 4: just because you know, that's people. This is why, this 433 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: is why I want to keep certain relationships private, is 434 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: because once you introduced people to certain things, they have 435 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: reason to feel like they deserve information. And so I 436 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: felt that it was you know, that was the number 437 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 4: one question I was getting asked was about the dogs, 438 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: and I think, yeah, it's it. I also saw that 439 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: somebody thought I was lying through my teeth about this contract, 440 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: that the dogs actually can't be bopping around because of stress. 441 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: No, no, but it's so real. 442 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: And Amanda actually from Bunny's Buddies had talked to me 443 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: about this, like long before anyone knew anything about anything, 444 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 4: and long before we had you know, moved forward and 445 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: past all this that she was like, this can't happen 446 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 4: like this. We don't adopt dogs out to people who 447 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 4: you know, are going back and forth. These dogs need 448 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: like a steady household. And so yeah, but I said 449 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: on my podcasts, he's more than welcome to visit them anytime, 450 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: more than welcome to I would never keep them from him. 451 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: Is it going well now that you have sil custody 452 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: and My second fall to that is has it made 453 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: you check change your travel amounts? 454 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: I definitely have changed my travel amounts, And I also 455 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 4: just have the best house slash dog sitter who honestly 456 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: loves them. No, I will never say as much as 457 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: me because that's not possible, but close, and she treats 458 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 4: them like her absolute babies. So I trust her when 459 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 4: she's here with them, and she's so good to them, 460 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: so it's reassuring knowing that she's with them if I'm gone. 461 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: Has Jason visited the dogs? 462 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: No? 463 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 5: All right, well what do you think about? What do 464 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: you think about those phillies? I'll just say it because 465 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 5: I'm being I'm just gonna be funny in myself right now. 466 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: But there's been a lack of posting of Jason and 467 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: his girlfriend Kat recently. 468 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: Really do you have a comment? 469 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 470 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: Really? That's her comment. I don't know. 471 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: I don't pay attention to it just because I I don't. 472 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: I honestly don't see anything on the internet, and so 473 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. I actually didn't know that they haven't 474 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 4: been posting, So that's news to me. 475 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: Here's a more interesting way to look at this too. 476 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: It's been a while obviously we had a show where 477 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: we sorted out our differences based on an interview with 478 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: Jason and Chris and myself kind of talking about things. 479 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: It was a huge relationship making headlines and then the 480 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: breakup and then I think anything you do, Caitlin, is 481 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: going to make headlines. I just do. I think it's 482 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: the kind of the world you live in. You have 483 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: brought that upon yourself, and it's also a compliment to 484 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: yourself because people care and they're interested. Yeah, would you say, 485 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: at this point in your life, let me phrase this 486 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: the right way, would you say, at this point in 487 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: your life, what Jason does romantically or what he does 488 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: personally affects you at all? Or is that a season 489 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: of life now that you've moved on from. 490 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 4: Definitely a season of life where I genuinely just want 491 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: everybody to be happy. I know people think that might 492 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 4: be a cop out or that I'm just saying that. 493 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: I genuinely, from the bottom of my black little heart, 494 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: genuinely just want people to be happy. I am so 495 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: over any like drama or this, or you know, like 496 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: resentment or whatever. I just want people to be happy. 497 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you have to come out publicly with a 498 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: new relationship, so people move on. 499 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 5: Never mind, I won't do it, and I go the 500 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 5: same way. I was like, is that because possibly you're 501 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 5: very happy? Well? 502 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: I do think like I think the happiest people don't 503 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: need to show off. I just feel like I'm in 504 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 4: a very zen, peaceful, happy place in my life. And 505 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: I when you feel that way, you want that for 506 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: other people, even if, like in the past, you might 507 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 4: not have. I just mid a place where I'm like, 508 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 4: I want everybody to feel what I'm feeling right now. 509 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: I feel like all of my mental work, my physical work, 510 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: everything is just finally paying off where I'm like, like Kombay, 511 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: fucking yeah. 512 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: She's almost forty, flirty and thriving. Do you feel this 513 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: way towards Tasha? 514 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I do. I just again, it's just 515 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 4: a in my heart of hearts what I have said 516 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: and what I have done. I hope people know my 517 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: humor by this point, and I again, I just want 518 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: people to be happy and unbothered. And because that's how 519 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: I'm feeling. 520 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: You are an open book. It's frustrating for me. I 521 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 2: think I said this on the show here as a 522 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: friend because I I just wish people got to know. 523 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: Like I think if they knew Caitlin and then these 524 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: things came out publicly, maybe like oh goodness, like they 525 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: would just be like, goodness, gracious, she's just saying what 526 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: she's thinking, right, But I don't think people know Like 527 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: I think they see one side. They see like the 528 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: media side, they see the podcast host, they see, you know, 529 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: the person that's getting called to be on the Golden 530 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: Bachelorette strip Tea's date, and then they're like, why would 531 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: she say that? That's that's coming from a mean place. 532 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: But if I think if they knew you, they'd be like, no, 533 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: that's just Caitlin like not having a buffer, and that's 534 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: helpful always. It's maybe not the most like healthy thing 535 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 2: because it does bring on its own criticism, but what 536 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: it does do is that it does allow people to 537 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: get to know where you're at. 538 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm learning though, because to me sometimes it's I 539 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 4: don't know if it's worth it anymore to be so 540 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 4: much of an open book, Like I'm I feel like 541 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: it's here's the thing. Any time I've talked about other people, 542 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: it just never goes well, and I just feel like 543 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to talk negatively about other 544 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: people ever again, because it's it doesn't feel good, it's 545 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 4: not a good look, and it always ends up being 546 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: a headline that I don't mean anyways, and it's you know, 547 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 4: warped into something different, and I do. I think that's 548 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: something I always wish people knew, is like what my 549 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 4: actual heart and intentions are as a human being. And 550 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 4: I think I get I think I get pigeonholed or 551 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: misunderstood a lot because a lot of people don't even 552 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: know who I am, and they might not even remember 553 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 4: me except for as the bachelorette, so they they just 554 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 4: think I'm this crude, offside, raunchy No. 555 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: I always I don't know if that's helped. I think 556 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: that's you speaking, Yeah, I think that's you, Yeah, kind 557 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: of picking out what the most like negative view of 558 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: you could be. 559 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 4: Possibly. 560 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: I think most people like love and appreciate you and 561 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: laugh alongside you and relate with you. I also think 562 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: that like, if people are listening and they say, okay, 563 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: then who is Caitlin? I would I would describe you 564 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: as the person that is going to go to the 565 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: bar with you and probably do something that makes everybody 566 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: laugh at and embarrass yourself in the process and be 567 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: okay with it and like enjoy the smiles that other 568 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: people get. And you're gonna say some wild stuff. You are, 569 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 2: You're gonna say some stuff that makes you go I 570 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: cannot believe that just came out of her mouth. But 571 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't come from a place of wanting anybody else 572 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: to suffer. No, never, I do. Also, I've been seeing 573 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: this recently and maybe your zen place from a distance. 574 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: You know, you and I don't want to compare, but 575 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: and you know, when we all get off this show, 576 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: there is this race to stay relevant. It happens to 577 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: all of us in different ways, in different platforms in 578 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: different times. And then you you have gone into relationships 579 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: purposefully or not. You know, obviously, come off the show 580 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: with Sean like relevancy is just a everybody wants to 581 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: know what you're up to. And then you get in 582 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: a relationship with Jason where social media was a big 583 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 2: part of your relationship. We knew where you're at and 584 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: what you're doing at most times because you were active 585 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: on social You're not as active anymore, and the world 586 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: doesn't really know where you're at in relationship to others 587 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: at this point in your life. But that seems like 588 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: it is a healthy like sign that like that is 589 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: something you're that intrigued by. Is to keep your relationship relevant. 590 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: I don't. I do not want to use anything in 591 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: my life to stay relevant. I don't want, whether it 592 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: be even just like my dogs or you know, I 593 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: just I don't want to ever use something for relevancy, 594 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: for views, for likes, for for whatever reason. And I 595 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: have found so much peace in that because because I 596 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: do share so much, so to keep something to myself 597 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: and not have any noise and you know, not have 598 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 4: people questioning when oh they're not posting as much and 599 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: have you noticed, and what's going on and they don't 600 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: like this anymore, and like to not have to even 601 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: think about that or worry about that. I would never 602 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 4: want to use a relationship to monetize, because I've done that. 603 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: I did that even you know, you get engaged publicly 604 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: and you're being offered other deals and you're monetizing, and 605 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 4: you're monetizing, and then you just it loses all of 606 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: the foundation and the importance of the relationship. And I'm 607 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: just it's so important to me to protect that at 608 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: all costs moving forward, because I want a healthy, loving 609 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 4: relationship that is strong and no other noise coming in 610 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: on it. 611 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: So she's admitting she's in a relationship. 612 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. 613 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: You'll never know, You'll never know. 614 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 5: The last thing you posted on social media was as 615 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: you feeling really nostalgic about Dancing with the Stars. 616 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: Because you've been watching Joey on it and him killing 617 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: the game. 618 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's almost too good. I'm like, what this is? 619 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: It's freaky how good he is? 620 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you how much do you miss that time? 621 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: Honestly, the Dancing with the Stars? I know some people say, 622 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 4: like I heard Gabby talking about it the other day 623 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: and she like refers to it as I don't I 624 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: don't want to put words in growth, I don't remember, 625 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: but she she wouldn't do it again, or something like that. 626 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people think it's the 627 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 4: hardest thing they've ever done. But sometimes I find it 628 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 4: hard to even watch Dancing with the Stars because of 629 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 4: how much nostalgia and joy it brings me. Because even 630 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: though it was so hard and the physical emotional like 631 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: strain I went through was beyond belief with that show, 632 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 4: like I didn't. I didn't expect that I would do 633 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: it again in a heartbeat because it was so rewarding, 634 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: and I just I'll never be able to explain to 635 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 4: people my passion for dancing. It is truly like something 636 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 4: that I do if I'm anxious, if I'm depressed, if 637 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: i want to be in the moment, if I'm like, 638 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: you know, for exercise. I just love dancing so much 639 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: and I would do anything to be back on that 640 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: dance floor. I know I love it. 641 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: Would you, I mean, would you as you look back 642 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: on your reality television journey, what like what stands like 643 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: what pops out in your head? First Bachelorette or Dance 644 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: with the Stars? 645 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: Probably Bachelorette because I just feel like that was the 646 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: most pivotal thing for me, and I feel like it 647 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: taught me the most about myself and I realized how 648 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 4: strong I was through that. But definitely Dancing with the 649 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 4: Stars was like my most memorable I would say. 650 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 2: You're made for like you were made for Like that 651 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: was right away. It was like it was a season 652 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: where people hadn't necessarily done it. I mean, I guess 653 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: souls did it, but it felt like it was still 654 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: in question, is Kaylen going to be on Dance with 655 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: the Stars everybody wanted you to do. 656 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it was five years late, like it was, 657 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 4: you know, like that's a long time to be off 658 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: and then be asked to go on. And I think 659 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: that really helped me too, because I was just so grateful. 660 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: To be there. 661 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: And I love being pushed in like out. I like 662 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: being pushed in a way where I'm like, I didn't 663 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: think I could do that, but somebody else pushed me 664 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: hard enough to get there, and then I prove myself wrong. 665 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: I love that. I'm very competitive and just the fact 666 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: that it was also dancing is amazing. I loved it. 667 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 5: Your partner on the show, Ardam, is going through some 668 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 5: all time allegations right now about domestic abuse. 669 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you stayed in touch with him? 670 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 4: I honestly, this is it's so hard because obviously we 671 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: don't know what happened. In my mind, domestic abuse is awful. 672 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 4: It's terrible, it's sad, it's scary, and the back and 673 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: forth between like he said, she said, is so overwhelming 674 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: and it's all that my heart can do is say, 675 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: I hope everyone's okay. I hope whoever is, you know, 676 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: in a dark place is getting the help that they need. 677 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: And all I can think about is Matteo, their son, 678 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: Like I know, they both probably just want what's best 679 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: for him, and it just feels very messy right now. 680 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, for the for the Dance with 681 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: the Stars to be doing as well as its doing 682 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: right now and to have the stars that they have 683 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: on it right now, there's also just those kind of 684 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: things looming over it. Yeah, But kind of going back 685 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: on my original question that started this train of thought 686 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: and then talking now about Bachelorette and Dancing with the 687 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: Stars and just Kaitlin knowing the place that you're at 688 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 2: in life right now, what is like, what what does 689 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: life look like now going forward? Because if we were 690 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 2: to ask you this five years ago, I'm assuming the 691 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: answer would have been like, in a lot of ways, 692 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: maybe without saying it, like what's next, you know, like 693 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: how what new project can I do? What can I 694 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: get involved with? Those types of things? I'm assuming now 695 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: the answer looks a little different. 696 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: It's so different. I My answer is so different. I 697 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: truly I see the benefit of how much work I 698 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 4: put into myself and where I want to be in life. 699 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 4: And I mean that in a way of how I 700 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 4: how I want to feel, not where I want to 701 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: be in my career. I feel like I've put in 702 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 4: the hard work. I feel like I'm I'm I'm like 703 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: right now, I'm calling it. I'm marinating in the hard 704 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: work that I've put in and that I'm actually just 705 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 4: like happy where I'm at instead of thinking what's next. 706 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 4: I've always thought what's next, and I still like, obviously 707 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 4: in the back of my mind, I'm still like, well, excellent, 708 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: but I'm trying to try. And that's just my aid, 709 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 4: that's just who I am. But I'm I'm really doing 710 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 4: a good job of sitting in the where I am 711 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 4: right now and being as in that and being like, wow, 712 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 4: I've done a lot, and I've worked really hard on 713 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 4: myself during all of it to evolve as a human being. 714 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 4: And I look back on the last ten years of 715 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 4: my life and I'm like, I am a complete different 716 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 4: person in the best way I can hope for that. 717 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 4: I just it's all my focus is on how I 718 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 4: want to feel instead of what I want to be doing. 719 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 4: How do I want to feel in five years, not 720 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 4: what do I want to do in five years, so 721 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 4: it's minus the ten year plan of being the Golden Bachelorette. 722 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 4: That's kind of where I'm at. 723 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: I want more for you. I want you to find 724 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: somebody within those ten years. 725 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: Ben, you couldn't pay me to be the Golden Bachelotte, 726 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: would I couldn't ever do any of that. Me just 727 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 4: sitting here preaching about like keeping my romance private and 728 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 4: then just going on this show again. 729 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: Well, if keeping your romance private doesn't work, then is 730 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 5: to go back to. 731 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: The old wayce. 732 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: Backwards? 733 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Well you're so fun to have on 734 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 3: all the time. I love you so much. 735 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 4: I love you. 736 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: Oh wait, we need to have our ten year reunion. 737 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 4: I can't believe it. I can't, I can and I 738 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 4: can't believe it. But the fact that that was ten 739 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 4: years ago that we were on the Bachelor, like it 740 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: really does feel like a lifetime ago, and like ten 741 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 4: years ago does make sense, But I still can't believe it. 742 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 4: Like my I said in the group text, I was like, 743 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 4: my brain cannot compute that it's been ten years. But 744 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 4: I would love to do a reunion. 745 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, really really do I think we should 746 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 5: start working on this this week. 747 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 3: Ten years ago, we were in Santa Fe. 748 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, wait where did we We didn't go 749 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: to anywhere that I would like to have a reunion, but. 750 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: Your season did not exactly. 751 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's all reunite in Iowa. 752 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 5: Wouldn't it be hilarious if we like went to Iowa? 753 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: We actually should. 754 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: It would be really fun for me and I think 755 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: a lot of fans because I was watching that season 756 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: knowing that the Bachelorette was going to come from that season. 757 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: I was looking at the pictures I think Ashley posted 758 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: of your guys' season, like the whole group together, and 759 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: there's so many people that I have no clue where 760 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: they're at now in life. It would be really fun, 761 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 2: is if one of you, at some point could figure 762 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 2: out how to at least get a quick catchup on 763 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: all these people who we saw not only in your 764 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: season but then in Paradise, who now is like are 765 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: like gone? Yeah, which means that my season of the 766 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 2: Bachelor is coming up on ten years Yeah that's wild. 767 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 5: Okay, Well this is giving me like an idea for 768 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 5: a news like series. 769 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: Let's make money on this. 770 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we need to get Ashley as on who 771 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 5: by the way, you know, because is that you know 772 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 5: everybody knows. 773 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: Ashley asked, is like, what was that line where She's like, 774 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: is that a pomegranate? Or it was a pomegranate? And 775 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: she thought it an onion? Is that an onion? 776 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: That's right? 777 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: She has four kids? Now? What? 778 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, she has four kids. I still that is mind 779 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 4: blowing to me. But I think she I remember talking 780 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 4: to her and she said something like I think she's 781 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 4: sober or she was sober for I don't know if 782 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 4: she still is because I don't. We don't follow each 783 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 4: other anymore, but now I want to follow her again. 784 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 4: Wow for kids? 785 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 3: Why does you unfollow each other? 786 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 787 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 4: I have so many Instagram cleanses and sometimes I'm like whoops, 788 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 4: and then other times I'm like I'm free. But you 789 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 4: know what, I you know what I do sometimes as 790 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 4: I just go and like I try and be like 791 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 4: do I talk to them anymore? Are they close? Do 792 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 4: they does what they post on their feet bring me 793 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 4: joy or does it make me stressed out? And and 794 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 4: do they still follow me? So I remember noticing that 795 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 4: brit unfollowed me and I was like what wow? And 796 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 4: then so I went through and I think, yeah, I 797 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 4: don't know what happened. This is so many years ago, 798 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 4: so I don't actually remember. But yeah, I love a 799 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 4: good cleanse. I love a cleanse. 800 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: Well, let's get some of these people on there. 801 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 4: And there's no not one person I wouldn't want to 802 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: see from our season of the Bat of the Bachelor. 803 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 4: There's not one girl I wouldn't want to now, even Kelseysie. 804 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 5: We'd have to have Kelsey just for like, we're too curious. 805 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 4: She won't come, but the invites there. 806 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Caitlin, you're the best you are and thanks for 807 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: coming on. It was great to see you on our 808 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: television screens. You're the perfect choice. Your facial expressions lit 809 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: up the television. It was great. We always appreciate you 810 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 2: as a guest and Almost Famous podcast and we cannot 811 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 2: wait to talk to you again soon. 812 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I'll be back, you know, I will see y'all. 813 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 814 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.