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Speaker 1: What up, y'all. This is Matt Barnes and you boys

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our show, All the Smoke.

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Speaker 3: For the past five years, we've interviewed the biggest stars

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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke. Day two. We had a cool,

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Speaker 1: little cool two days shoot in the new office be

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Speaker 1: currently under construction. We get to finish it off strong

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Speaker 1: with the man that that I don't think it's enough

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Speaker 1: respect for his game, but also did a lot of

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Speaker 1: first in this game for real, all and off the court.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Brandon Jennings.

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Speaker 2: My little brother, my real little brother.

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Speaker 1: First, first of all, he came with gifts. This is

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Speaker 1: a tough Crowd candle.

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Speaker 2: Where can they find that at tough crowd dot com?

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Speaker 3: Anthos, Yeah, we need some need we need.

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Speaker 1: Some candles for the new place. What's tough crowd hat?

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Speaker 2: What's auntie name? Squeaky Squeeze, Squeaky.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the candles he came with? Uh not everything Like

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Speaker 1: he was a guest that came with gifts. We're supposed

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Speaker 1: to get you ship. He came people, come with you.

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Speaker 1: He came and blessed us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, y'all, you know, y'all I needed I needed

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Speaker 2: a tough cross wag though.

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Speaker 1: I got me some new jeans.

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Speaker 2: With the dog.

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Speaker 1: I seen him with them and then jacket. It hurts

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Speaker 1: my heart that this is the style that's coming back

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Speaker 1: in the wide leg is coming back.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you know I'm in there that you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, you wearing the house.

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Speaker 1: Get with it, yeah, get with it and get left behind.

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Speaker 3: But thank you, bro, that bro came through and stuff

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Speaker 3: to tell Ray bullsh and you know you're gonna see

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Speaker 3: Ray dude.

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Speaker 1: Depending on how long he bullshit, he's gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: cush ups right here.

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Speaker 2: Dirty League anyway, So he's familiar.

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Speaker 1: Already, know the violations he's with. I want to start

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Speaker 1: with congratulations, man. You guys found your laying with Gills

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Speaker 1: Arena special. Bro. You know when people say like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's so many different I feel like there can never

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Speaker 1: be enough because we all have different journeys, different experiences,

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Speaker 1: you know, different stories to talk about. And you guys

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Speaker 1: definitely have one of the hottest shows in this space.

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Speaker 1: How did that come about? I mean cause that's kind

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Speaker 1: of a we're talking that's kind of like a different

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Speaker 1: kind of crew, you know what I mean? Like you

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Speaker 1: Josiah Kmart burnt get burnt out, Guil, Like, how did

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Speaker 1: that all that madness yack come together?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we all live by each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that definitely works. You know the fact that you

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Speaker 2: know we can Rashad Josiah. We all live around each other,

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Speaker 2: so it's easy for us to you know, get to

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Speaker 2: the podcast every day. You know, Gil he likes to

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Speaker 2: think everything basketball. So we go at eleven thirty because

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Speaker 2: that's what time we would practice and we're doing that too.

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Speaker 1: Said, I was like, what time y'all go eleven thirty two,

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Speaker 1: just like practice, Like damn I started, I think. I

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Speaker 1: was like, damn, that really is practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean it's very like NBA settings and

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Speaker 2: And it's been great. Man, it's been good. You know,

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Speaker 2: we on season three. Now, you know we're very controversial,

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Speaker 2: but you know, hey man, we just like to keep

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Speaker 2: the hostel.

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Speaker 3: That's been great, keeping hostle for for dominant for dominant

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we got Lexi Brown, we got show

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Speaker 2: swoops Nick there. So it's a whole big basketball like

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Speaker 1: So for those who don't really know Gills behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes basketball evil genius mind, speak to that and and

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Speaker 2: Into the team you guys have.

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Speaker 3: Now, let me tell you before you start, let me

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Speaker 3: take this type of person guilt is me and Gill

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Speaker 3: will go at it on Instagram and buy some ship.

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Speaker 2: Then later on I get a d M from bro.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you how to get this money. So

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Speaker 2: you go to this. You got to start this page

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Speaker 2: and start this page. I'm gonna say this.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you he's one of the smartest people as well.

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Speaker 2: He's very detailed, you know, like he's always talking. First

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Speaker 2: knows every detail of every player, how many times you

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Speaker 2: his craft is is Uh, it's easy for us. I'm

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Speaker 2: learning a lot game, you know, just being around you know,

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Speaker 2: it's cool just to be around those basketball mines.

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Speaker 3: So comptent upbringing you was competing against some stars and

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Speaker 2: You know, comptent to me gains, you know, powerhouse at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, man, you know out of high school man,

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Speaker 2: First came. We never seen nothing like that. So just

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Speaker 3: Running the street says to trying to create your own

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Speaker 2: That was crazy, man, Like, like that was because you

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Speaker 3: It's been I know a lot of high school point guards,

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Speaker 2: So are we talking about overall career?

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Speaker 1: No high school?

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Speaker 2: High school? High school? Just high school? Yeah, I'm definitely

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Speaker 2: gonna put myself in there. Yeah number one.

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Speaker 1: We're at the because we had a real debate. We

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: They were debating whether it was you or BD. And

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Speaker 1: that's the hell of a comp right there.

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Speaker 2: I said, you had a better high school career, but

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Speaker 2: be but Bed had a better overall career. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 2: Red had a better overall career, but high school I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna say myself because as you should not

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Speaker 2: even man like the competition. I felt like I played

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Speaker 2: It was just like, I just think the path is

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Speaker 1: Who were some of the guys that ended up making

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Speaker 1: the league that you were playing during that time.

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Speaker 2: Man, you have to go Jew Holiday, De mar De Rozan,

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Speaker 2: Gregman Roll, I mean yeah, Gregman Roll, Greg Oden. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've seen the best of the best. He was tough.

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Speaker 2: I played against a lot of Michael Beasley like, I

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Speaker 3: So go back to the question five, Top five, Top five,

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Speaker 3: I got yourself number one for myself, I got uh,

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Speaker 2: I see them. Yeah yeah, So give me your top three.

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Speaker 2: So so for me, it would have to be like

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Speaker 2: He went to Loan Beach, I just had his name.

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Speaker 2: Went to Loan Beach, probably with the throw back in

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Speaker 2: the day, Wesley Stokes Stokes. Where do you go to

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Speaker 2: college yet? Were he went to Missouri Missouri? Yeah, man

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Speaker 2: went to Missouri. Wesley Stokes I used to and Marcus

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Speaker 2: Williams Marcus that's my dog bro Lose out of Inglewood

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Speaker 2: Losion man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's still young, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then another one that's a sleeper that people don't know.

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Speaker 2: But I saw him play one time and he just

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Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, this guy is crazy killing fortune.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah he was. He went to kill Patrick, but

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Speaker 2: he was. I saw him play against Sarah one one

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Speaker 2: game and that's just I was like, Yo, this die

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Speaker 2: is the real guy. He's a real deal.

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Speaker 3: Do you think you have the hardest hoop mixtape of

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Speaker 3: all time? Think any any player has a harder mixtape

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Speaker 3: to you?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no, because my favorite ever is a

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Speaker 2: kill Car from Baltimore because just the fact that when

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Speaker 2: he played, all the crime in Baltimore stopped, like that's

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Speaker 2: a bar that people don't even and everybody know about

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore or the Wire and how Baltimore is. So

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Speaker 2: the fact that that kid to stop the whole city

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Speaker 2: to go have a good time and nobody do nothing

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Speaker 2: like killers, like y'all next week now he playing something,

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Speaker 2: you know, not today, not today, but next week to

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Speaker 2: kill play you know. So I killed Car, he got

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Speaker 2: like the best one to me. Yeah that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Shout So walk us through your journey because it was

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Speaker 1: very unique from obviously playing at legendary high schools from

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Speaker 1: And I heard like two fifty yeah, but it was

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Speaker 3: Talk about the platform that ok will put you on,

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Speaker 1: Y'all went forty one and one at Okaill remember who

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Speaker 2: It went forty and one and that was against Derrick Rose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, USC and Arizona. When to mix for college? Any

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Speaker 2: K I was gonna go to Yukon because of Marcus

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Speaker 2: I mean it was. I mean I was nineteen, you know,

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Speaker 2: Slam punks. Yeah, this is uh yeah, man, this is

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00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,600
Speaker 2: one of We shot this in New York City at

434
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 2: the lead twenty four. Yeah, this is I think one

435
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,879
Speaker 2: of my first slam punks like this is this is

436
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 2: iconic because this is just taking me back to when

437
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 2: Sebastian Telford and Lebron James was on the cover of

438
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 2: Slam magazine. And being on the cover with these legends

439
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 2: like Jew Holliday. He's a legend. Terick Evans, you know,

440
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 2: he was one of the most feared.

441
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: He was so cold.

442
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 2: Rookie of the year, you know, Rookie of the year.

443
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: You know, he's one of the most He was six

444
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 2: three six four guards can get on anybody. Yeah, if

445
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 2: he didn't get hurt, you know.

446
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 1: And make them dance lands.

447
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah and Lance, yes, out out of Brooklyn. But yeah,

448
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 2: nah man, that was dope. That's a That's an iconic

449
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 2: moment right there for.

450
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: Us, first ever ever singing to shoot with under Me

451
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 3: and doll of contract. We'll talk about that first Sonny

452
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 3: bit Carol again, was it Sonny Sonny again?

453
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 2: Sonny curl again? He had the whole thing set up

454
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 2: and shout out Christone too, man, Christone, he's a he

455
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 2: was the one that that signed me to darmoer to

456
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 2: he he uh, he created the lead twenty four game.

457
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 2: So I'm signing my deal right, I'm signing my deal

458
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: in Italy. I just signed my deal Italy. They give me,

459
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 2: you know, sign my deal. They say, all right, we're

460
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: gonna go. I meet Christone in the lobby at the

461
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: Wind and Christine was like, Yo, you know, I just

462
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: got the job with the n Darmer. You know, we

463
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: think about going into basketball. I'm like, like, protect his house,

464
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 2: like you know, like you don't Like, I'm like, we

465
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: must protect this house. Like I'm like, hell no, like

466
00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 2: I'm niked like and he's like, nah, for real, like

467
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: you know, So he took me to the took me

468
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: to the USA game. This is when the USA is

469
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: gonna go to. This is Kobe when Kobe wait Dean.

470
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: So we out there and we're just talking and this

471
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: what made me change my mind. So we're sitting in

472
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 2: the lobby right and Christone is talking to West, Uncle West,

473
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, world Wild West, world Wide West. I shout

474
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: out to the world West, and you know they're in competition,

475
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: you know, Nike, you know Stoney, you know Stoney's News.

476
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: So he's like, you know, he's excited. He's like, you know,

477
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: I just signed with were about to go basketball, you know,

478
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 2: we about to get y'all run for your money. And

479
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, West is like looking at

480
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, Stony showed West to shoot West goul That

481
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: ain't it? You know, He's like that ain't it? And

482
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm just looking, you know, young. I'm like okay, Like

483
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like and so me and Stony we

484
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 2: get back in the car. We go back. He was like, Yo,

485
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: so what you want. I'm like yo, I'm damn yo,

486
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: let's do this. Like I'm like like yo. I was like, Yo,

487
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna change the culture. We're gonna I'm about to

488
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: change the culture with what I'm doing and going overseas,

489
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: Like let's change the culture in the football department, you know,

490
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: let's do something different. So that's how it happened. What's

491
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: your best sound on the shoe? The blood line? Bloodline,

492
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: And I've seen the bloodline being you know, I've seen

493
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: little Paul George, you know, he had a little bloodline

494
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: inspiration daring to Fox.

495
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: So you're kind of acting like, oh damn, I got

496
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: my own shoe. Like, bro, you had your own So

497
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: first of all, you don't go to college, you go

498
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: do something else, and then you come into the league

499
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: with your own shoe, Like where are you at? Like

500
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: you have to pinch yourself or this is all a

501
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: part of the process for you far as what just

502
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: real life, you know what I mean? Like you didn't

503
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: go to college. Yeah, you made that work your top

504
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: ten pick. Yeah, and then you come into the game

505
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: with your own shoe, Like not too many people get

506
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: to do that.

507
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: I was just riding a wave, man, like you know,

508
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: but through it all, like you know, through it all,

509
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: I just wish I was more spiritual though through it all, man,

510
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 2: like I wish I would have not never like you know,

511
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 2: know what you know now? Yeah, like know what I

512
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: know now and have my surroundings. I'm not saying I

513
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: didn't have good people, just swished I would have like

514
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: hundered my craft more and being able to recognize the

515
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: good people around like through it all, like I was

516
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: so like just and like at his fault too, Like

517
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: I never really had a chance to like just have

518
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: a moment to myself, Like remember I went from Italy

519
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: to coming back, having to work out for fifteen teams,

520
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: get drafted, do photo shoots with under a rookie like

521
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: start the scout scows, Like it was never no time

522
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: of just like all right, Brandon, have a moment, Like

523
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: it was just like work, work, work, work, work, and

524
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: through all that I just got caught up in it

525
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: a lot too.

526
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: Did your relationship with Steff start before before before given

527
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: fifty five.

528
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: For sure, I was there, remember, yeah, Yeah, I was there.

529
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: I was. I was.

530
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 1: You decided to go to that game that night or

531
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: I played. I was.

532
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: I was killing the game. He just had fifty five.

533
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah he was, Yeah he was. And then we had

534
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: dinner later.

535
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went every night to combine you sixty.

536
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: I was on the Warriors.

537
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh he was on the other team. Was okay, Yeah,

538
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: he was on the other side of stuff.

539
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: In my take all that I've seen it.

540
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: Take that fifty five, that was your rookie year second

541
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: seven years.

542
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: That's because Rico. He shot Rico Hines. I keep telling

543
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: Rico ever since. Rico told me that a half time

544
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: he said, yeah, this report I had locking you up.

545
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: I had so added fifty five. Yeah we did. We

546
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: couldn't do nothing with him though. That night.

547
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: It was just coming off the pick a roll. It

548
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: ain't no shot ice on it was. It was a

549
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: lot of it was nasty. It was bad you over here.

550
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: There was a lot of that going on.

551
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: Well we ended up together. Mm hmm.

552
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 3: I get over here a year later, right, it's two year,

553
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 3: two years later, two years lockout, Yeah, twos. Because our

554
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 3: first game was in Charlotte.

555
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Is this when he was doing your mixtape.

556
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: I was in full rap mode. Time was yes contract,

557
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: but I was in yes, yes, it was so we

558
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: were red five on every road. It was bad. You know.

559
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: I was in my bad Listen our first let's I'll

560
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 3: never forget our first. Our first game is Charlotte. We

561
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 3: pulled up to the hotel the fourth season. It's a

562
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: red fan of a red uh, a red range over.

563
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: I think a red band.

564
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: Everybody like, oh, I know, I said, I know this, car.

565
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: I said, I got a concert tonight. What I gotta

566
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: what do I can't do it, I cannot do it.

567
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: I said, Yo, I gotta get this money. I got

568
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: a concert. I got what's the lockout?

569
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: What's the lockout?

570
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 4: Here?

571
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: He is not lying, he is not lying. I was

572
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: in full red mother Dog in one of the clubs,

573
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: little clubs. I was getting booked, baby.

574
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: He was getting off for real. No, no sold out.

575
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing no. I went. I would have been Miami.

576
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: It was lit, there was hey.

577
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: There wasn't advertising because we was in there doing wen't

578
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: supposed to be doing dog.

579
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was. We was in Miami. Let

580
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: he was up there perforeman.

581
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: Crazy whatever whatever, going crazy?

582
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: You were you guys playing the game, and he was

583
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: at the concert the same night, and then he was

584
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: meeting the Master.

585
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: No, when I played on the team, when I was

586
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: at home, they'll play games when I was sitting out

587
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: and me and him a meet up at rest of.

588
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: One one and then we'll go out.

589
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do all that. When I wasn't playing. I was,

590
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: I was on the team, but I just wasn't going

591
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: to the game. I was promoting my mixtape during my downtime.

592
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: I remember that. Yes time he'd be like, Yo, meet

593
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: me at the one after all. Right, Man, hey, I'm

594
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: finna go.

595
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm finel Hey, I'm finna go further with you. When

596
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: they played, when we played the Lakers, I was at home.

597
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: I had a show that night, doing that night, and

598
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 3: then I went out with him a Kobe in my

599
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: line at home.

600
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to know pa next tape that was getting

601
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 2: by the bucks. But I wasn't going to no games.

602
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: The scouts, miss scouts, guys couldn't couldn't see how that

603
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: if you put it up, there's gonna be so many

604
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: mixtapes because I got about fifty of them bitches.

605
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: But that's when I'm right there. Yo. Let's say it

606
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: was yes yo open I got. I got a video

607
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: with the fresh man Tana beat about yes bro open

608
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: practice practice like game days. Look look at that sold out.

609
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: That's the sold out that's in milwalking right there after

610
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: the game. They what you mean, secret society who.

611
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: They're everywhere? You never know? Look everywhere? Was that was

612
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: that six one eight with the Lady Bucks? Yes, yes, yeah,

613
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: in my bag.

614
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: That's when he had his highway patrol mustag Hooper slash.

615
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Ron Jerry, that's hooper slash. That's when I

616
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 2: was a hooper slash. Fo was over and I don't know.

617
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: I have a platinum record too. By the way, already yeah, already.

618
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: On every road trip, we're not wearing no green all

619
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: read red.

620
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: He had red Jordan's red uh red knee passed red

621
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: red sleeves.

622
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 2: Shout out to Trim Walkee man.

623
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate the love y'all show me and BJ man,

624
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: y'all took care of me and BJ.

625
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: We had a good time. Yes, that's the one we

626
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: had the one cracking.

627
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: Shout out to the but hey, but I want to

628
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: I want to give you a problem. I want to

629
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: say thank you because I saw you on Gilzarena. You

630
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: said that when Stack came Milwaukee, I learned how to move.

631
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I appreciate that because I remember.

632
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: I remember when we first got there. I was like, man,

633
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: y'alln't have no fun about his mother. Y'all don't hang

634
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: out anohing, no fu this BJ we going out tonight,

635
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: and the.

636
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: Whole team term, the whole vibe of the team turn.

637
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

638
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: I needed that. I need that for sure. I was

639
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: I was hooping. I just needed some energy.

640
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: Though it was it was doing nothing, like we didn't

641
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: really have nothing until you showed me how to move

642
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh this, I'm moving now.

643
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, so cancel Christmas.

644
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: Basketball for was easy backtrack a little bit.

645
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Tenth pick in the two thousand and nine drafts to

646
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: the Bucks, same draft as Steph Harden, Tyree Uh, Tyreek Evans,

647
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: Drew Holliday. I think Blake was the number one pick

648
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: in that draft, right Griffin, you get to Milwaukee with

649
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: your first impressions out there before jackets.

650
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: There tri Milwaukee, we named it that they got to

651
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: give us our props. We named it Trilwaukee. I mean

652
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: I embraced it the city. I mean like I came

653
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: from Okill, Italy. I just was happy I was in

654
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: the NBA.

655
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind when I mentioned these

656
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: players mante Ellis.

657
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: Score Litho back forward to get bullet like, yeah, downhill,

658
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: good luck, No real like he's coming down.

659
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: You just it's nothing you can do. Good luck today

660
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: and if you get right, it's definitely yeah. It don't

661
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: even I don't care where you at. He's getting to

662
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: that right.

663
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Hand and he's gonna Dunkley shout out bro Jim Boiling

664
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: slick back, Jim Boyling right there. Fuck that one. They

665
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: thought they were doing something.

666
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: Scott Scott, I ain't, no, no, no, nope. He might not.

667
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: Let me say something about Jim. I'm on the neils.

668
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: Jim was cool. Scott went the last that long. If

669
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: you didn't had Jim over there, let's talk about that.

670
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: Jim was a solid guy. He had been around and

671
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: he knew why. He had a great relationship with players.

672
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: He was one of those coaches that knew how to

673
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: talk to players, even being a white coach. Scott lacked

674
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: that so that's why he needed to have Jim around.

675
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: Shout out to Gym because you saved Scott.

676
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: So now make me feel bad for saying fuck that

677
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: one and my bad Jim Scott Skoyles for you, b

678
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: not that this interview.

679
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: For me, I got that wrong already. For me, he

680
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: was good for me because of his mentality of what

681
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: he brought as like starting point guard from coming from

682
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: Italy and not playing at all. He really helped me

683
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: my rookie year. I think that's why it was so

684
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: successful too. You know, we were like sixth in the

685
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: East Milwaukee made the playoffs in eight years. But he

686
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: was I think his coaching and his uh you know,

687
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: the fact that he held me accountable for a lot

688
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: of things even after the fifty five point game, like

689
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: we came back and watched him the next day of

690
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: how I can get better and things like that. Kurt

691
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: Thomas too, you know, one of the one of my

692
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: great bets. So yeah those.

693
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: Kurt was a big time college scorer too. Yeah yeah,

694
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: he's buckets. Yeah yeah, like the scoring right tu. Yeah,

695
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask this name with this dog vogues and.

696
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: I wish I had more time to play truth if

697
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't get hurt, we get Patlanta in the first round.

698
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: So I just that name right there, Bo get is healthy.

699
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm probably still I've probably been in Milwaukee longer.

700
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: Explain his game to those who know how how he played,

701
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: how his mindset.

702
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: Like he's one of them, Like I'm coming down right.

703
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: We used to run like five out or like uh,

704
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: five down. Also on the ball, he can go and

705
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: get to it and shoot it left or right hand.

706
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: Great defender, uh, great pick and role player and just

707
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: had a knowledge for the game. Like just just wish

708
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: I had more time with him, Me and my right mind.

709
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: The mold he was in and the healthy Andrew Boga,

710
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: we could have did some stuff in min walk. It

711
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: just didn't work, you know what I'm saying, the time

712
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: and everything, But that's what I was excited about getting

713
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: traded there, you know what I'm saying.

714
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: The point go out and had a real big man

715
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: that could do it all, like Bully could do it all.

716
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: It just didn't work, like he's like come down, just

717
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: give it to him and he'll make a play and

718
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: go like yeah, it was. It was sick.

719
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: Larry Sanders, same thing.

720
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: Wish I had more time, because he was that dog

721
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: if you had if we would have had Larry and

722
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: Boget together, like that's just scary. Larry already he already

723
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: wanted to take everybody head of Yeah, so he's our

724
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: Draymond Green, like you knows he's that Draymond Green.

725
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: But six eleven.

726
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but six eleven and he could and he can

727
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: really not any can knock you down.

728
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: To a best dressed. He had swag too, like he

729
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: was six of them, but he walked around he was

730
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: six too. Yeah for real, he think he flies? Yeah?

731
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Should the Bucks be concerned about losing Jannis?

732
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: No? I mean he's done his job, right, I mean

733
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: he's brung a ring to Milwaukee in fifty years. Milwaukee

734
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: had a ring in fifty years. So to me, I

735
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: mean he's done his job.

736
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: So he's decided to leave. Say she just appreciate the

737
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: time they had.

738
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Of course. I mean yeah, I mean he's the he's

739
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: the greatest Milwaukee player ever. Like it's not it's not

740
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: even yeah, like it's not even like Kareem it's not

741
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: even close. Like what he's like what he brought to

742
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: that to that city, man, like it was at a

743
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: drought heavy for a minute. It was at a drought

744
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: for a minute, like nobody wanted to go there. Nobody

745
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: wanted to go there, like they they got like they

746
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: got in the draft and got you know, the basketball

747
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 2: guys was like yo, here, y'all go.

748
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: And it got so bad that the owner was coming

749
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: to practice with the white pants on and he is

750
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: walking around ship on the back of his pants.

751
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, yeah, like Nelly's boy.

752
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he came in to shoot around one day, has

753
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: shipped all of the pants, just walking around talking to people.

754
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: Come on, man, down with somebody that did wipe on themselves.

755
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Can be running the team and not knowing how to

756
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: wipe your ass both you got to choose one of

757
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: them to pass the team down somebody and don't wipe

758
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: your ass or wipe you ass and run the.

759
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: Teams like they should like build it like like honestly,

760
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: like it's just certain things, like certain players and a

761
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 2: certain way the game is going. Like you can build

762
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: a statue for.

763
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: Definitely, no question about that if you want.

764
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: Like it's like you can build a statue for Lebron

765
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: right now in Cleveland. They did it for Mike.

766
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Well and will Lebron get three statues in your opinion, Cleveland,

767
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: Miami and Lakers and what not.

768
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: His first championship was was in Miami, first two, right, yeah,

769
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: and then I mean that beating it with the seventy

770
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: three and nine mm hmm. That's that's so I put

771
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: that in there, and getting they say the hardest championship.

772
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Miami retired m J Jersey.

773
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: They got to get put a statue for bron right,

774
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: they retired three statues.

775
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: Three statues is crazy.

776
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: That's right.

777
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: That's bananas, like a statue in general. It is just

778
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: like Chris got to get one of that case. No,

779
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: what you mean?

780
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: He said, slow down?

781
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: He's part of the three what they called him the

782
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: Big three. He's a part of the Big three. Noah, No,

783
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it depends. So Chris Bosh was the

784
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: third option. Right, So does Clay Thompson get one? And

785
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: good question, So Clay get d Mond?

786
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: To my mind, okay, yeah, does Katie get I think

787
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: Katie's left out. I think I think Katie get his

788
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: it somewhere else. Okay, see, I think okay, I think

789
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: he was just asked this question. I didn't get to

790
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: hear the whole whole answer.

791
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: He has to get one.

792
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: And with the word he's said, he don't think he

793
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: goes hey, neighborhood hater. Does Lebron get a?

794
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: Uh?

795
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Does Lebron get a? Elecers Stas and the Warriors?

796
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: He's too two time finals MVP, no matter, two time

797
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: finals MVP. So I got it, I got it done. Yeah,

798
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: I got it done. Yeah. In his eyes, I could

799
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: be like I saved y'all me if he want to

800
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 2: talk like that, like I mean, you know, yeah eight

801
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: one when in the finals when I was here eight one,

802
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: y'all needed a third score or whatever. I'm just saying, like,

803
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: so you can if he wants to talk that and

804
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: talk that, you know, talk that talking sniper, should you

805
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: know he could definitely? Yeah, big facts. I don't care

806
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: how I came over here, y'all let me. Yeah, y'all, y'all,

807
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: y'all signed the deal. Yeah, stupid, y'all. Let it happen.

808
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, traded to Detroit for Chris Middleton learning the business?

809
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: What was that like in twenty thirteen?

810
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: Man, you know it's crazy about me getting traded that year?

811
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: Is that I should have signed the deal with Milwaukee

812
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: that that that summer.

813
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: An extension yeah, they offered me and you declined it, but.

814
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: I didn't decline it. I didn't know, Wow, what do

815
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: you mean? So it was like they was like, oh man,

816
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: we should go for the max, we should go for

817
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: the max. And I'm just like, and you know, they

818
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: offered me forty for four and we turned it.

819
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: Down without you your agents turned it down.

820
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about it. I feel like it was

821
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: more of like outside influences to in it, like my mother,

822
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: Like people felt like I was a MAX player. But

823
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: then at that time, you gotta think like who's getting

824
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: Nobody got the max, Like everybody was getting forty, Like

825
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: everybody got forty. The highest somebody got it was probably

826
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: like forty four for four. It was low. So that's

827
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: why I got traded, and that's why I already knew,

828
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: like once I didn't sign the deal and then and

829
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: then you know, I got I got wind of it

830
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: from somebody who wasn't even in my circle. It was like,

831
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, they offered you and I was like, I

832
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: didn't know that. So it was just like you know,

833
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: Shane Binniness, Yeah, it was just a lot of stuff

834
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: that I was just like, had had question.

835
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: Marks on it's unfortunate Achilles tear in twenty fifteen. What

836
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: was that journey to recovery like? And then any truth

837
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: that Kobe reached out to you, Yeah, yeah, Kobe did

838
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: when I was hurt my son. My son actually has

839
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: a picture with Kobe in the back, and that's when

840
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: I had met Kobe. He was just talking about the

841
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: Achilles injury and you know, just coming back and you know,

842
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: just being dowt in. But you know, just hearing his

843
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: detail to the game was just like crazy, right.

844
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: But for me with the Achilles, that's when I lost

845
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: my passion for the game because that's when I started

846
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: finding out a lot about other things outside of basketball

847
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: that I needed to get in control of. You know,

848
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: I'm sure we all been there. You know, we're making

849
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: all this money, we don't really know what's going on,

850
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: so you know, you know, laying up in the bed,

851
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: you know and thinking, you know, just hearing how people feel,

852
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: you know, seeing you know, Reggie Jackson get eighty million

853
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: from Detroit and it's just like, you know, you just

854
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: get down, like you just start, you know, personal issues

855
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: start happening in your life with family members and friends,

856
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: and you just it's just chaos. Man, It's just chaos

857
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: and at a time where God set me down. I

858
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: feel like that's why I didn't get the eighty million

859
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: and I didn't become an All Star because I needed

860
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: to get things in control of my life first. And

861
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: that's just real. Like you know, imagine me with eighty

862
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: million now I don't have control, probably wouldn't be sitting

863
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: here right now right I needed that time to sit

864
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: down and realize who I am. And yeah, it helped

865
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: me out a lot. That's why I'm still here.

866
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: At what age did you feel like you had that

867
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: awakening and kind of able to look yourself in the mirror,

868
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: Because that's a real that's deep. I mean, your self

869
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: awareness has been At sixteen, you realize you needed to

870
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: get out and get away, and then you kind of

871
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: had to as a young star in the league, you

872
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: had to pull yourself and sit yourself down and kind

873
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: of go At what age was that, man?

874
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: I just think like just things become Like when things

875
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: become convenient for me, I gotta figure out something else,

876
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: Like I get bored, so like just being sixteen and

877
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: getting everything I wanted to mean a saying it's like, man,

878
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: I need to like you know, I need something else,

879
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: Like this is this is boring to me. Everything is

880
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: coming to me too easy. And I think that's just me,

881
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: just you know, learning from my peers, being around older,

882
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: older situations, seeing things, observing. You know, I am a lever,

883
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: so I do like to sit back and observe a lot.

884
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: And then you know, just the people, the people around me,

885
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: just the situations that I've been put in, being in

886
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: that office at eighteen with Kevin Plank and Sonny McCarroll

887
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: and Bill Duffy and my mom and you know, they like, yeah,

888
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: we want to give you a million dollars. What's up?

889
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: Like be our person aflet like you gotta be ready,

890
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: like yeah, let's do this. So yeah, just you know,

891
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: the high top fade and McDonald's all American, like you know,

892
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: the gum be like I don't care man, Like it's like, bro,

893
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a walking dollar sign, Like I'm gonna

894
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: make money regardless if I'm dribbling basketball or not. Like

895
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: life has taught me a lot and I've seen a lot.

896
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: So put it all together.

897
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: When you said you lost your love for basketball, yeah

898
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: you had. You played. You played a little bit after

899
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: that and had a couple of stops. When did you

900
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: know it was time to hang it up?

901
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: When I went to Russia China, actually really, because that's

902
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: when I got into fashion, Like China really opened up

903
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: to my eyes and some things. And that's when times

904
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: when I was able to find myself and start looking

905
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: myself in the mirror and start and start realizing, you know,

906
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: like I created all this I created all this ship

907
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: in my life, like right, like all right, how do

908
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: you stop it?

909
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Like?

910
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: All right, Like you know, you gotta change my ways.

911
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: I gotta get back deeper with God. I gotta start

912
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: getting spiritual. I gotta start honoring my craft. I gotta

913
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 2: start hunoring things. I gotta start undering myself right like

914
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm doing so

915
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: much for other people. I'm not even thinking about myself

916
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: yourself on the back. So you know I had to start,

917
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: you know, That's why I went to China. I got

918
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: three months, nine months away from everybody. Man, you know

919
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: what my mind is thinking what I'm on now. I'm

920
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: seeing so much stuff. I'm seeing our culture, I'm seeing fashion,

921
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm seeing how big I am. I'm like, yeah, I

922
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: gotta start a brand, Like, yeah, I gotta start a brand.

923
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: I got to get a crack and I go back

924
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: and hoop. But this tough crowd, though, yeah, I gotta

925
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: that's it. It's it right here.

926
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: He said something interesting to me. You said, all this

927
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: shit going on in your life, but you had to

928
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: accept the responsibility for your parts. And I think that's

929
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: hard for men sometimes because I had a well documented

930
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: whirlwind life off the court too, and although it was

931
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: some bullshit that happened, I had to accept my part

932
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: in that shit. And to me, that's the only way

933
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: you really grow. You can be like, damn, why is

934
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: this all this happened to me? Or you can find

935
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: out like, well, how can I avoid it next time?

936
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: What could I have done different for this shit not

937
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: to happen?

938
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Just I mean, before I go into any situation, I

939
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: pray before it, like, you know, just for the positive energy.

940
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Like you know, people be walking into just so much

941
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: negative energy, don't even know what they're around. It's like yo,

942
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: like start honoring and start giving, you know, the glory.

943
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: It's a little bit. I don't mean to get off.

944
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: We see what's going on in the world.

945
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Because you know, what's crazy to be as me and

946
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: him always talk about like what he thirty five? Yeah,

947
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Like there's no vets in the league, no more. This's

948
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: young boy. It's the blind leading the blind. But when

949
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: we came in, there was dudes thirty nine, forty forty one,

950
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: forty two. Some played, some didn't, but they're just so

951
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: instrumental in us not fucking up as much. We still

952
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: fucked up, but there was just some guidance. There's just

953
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: no guidance.

954
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: I came into the league. Kirt Thomas was thirty seven. Yeah,

955
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm nineteen. You know how much I'm learning. Yeah, Jerry

956
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: Stockhouse is in there. You know how much I'm learning. Right,

957
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: they don't have Jackson. You know how much I'm learning?

958
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know how much good.

959
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: Early in my career. So it's like, Bro, I know

960
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: the what he said? What did he say? What do

961
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: you say missed? I missed it?

962
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: He said, Steven Jackson in my life. I said, I

963
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: don't know which that ship was good.

964
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: But much. It probablyouldn't play much positive, but he's learned

965
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: a lot. Bro.

966
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: One piece of advice you would tell the younger Brandon Jennis.

967
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: Oh fresh in the league, though fresh in the league.

968
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: Fresh in the league. Yeah, freshing league with all this money. Man, Yeah,

969
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean spiritual, like I'm gonna keep saying I'm gonna

970
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: get that. That was it. I love yourself more. Yeah,

971
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: like love myself more. Stop saying yes to everything. Most

972
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: influential teammate you ever had. I mean, I'm not gonna

973
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: say because you're on the show, but you I love it. Yeah,

974
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: like that to where yo, hey, hey, young bro, come

975
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: with me all the time and be with me and

976
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: I take care everything. And you know what I'm saying,

977
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: let's go to all everything on me, Like, come on,

978
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: it's not even that is no, I'm not I don't

979
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: never have to pull out my wallet. If I did,

980
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: it's like what you're doing, love bro, appreciate you, Like,

981
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: what are you doing? That's why I do the things

982
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: I do now for everybody. Yeah, I got it, Like it's.

983
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: Just a lot of gun, but not your wallet. I

984
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: don't think I asked me to do that either. Back then,

985
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: back then I was billy the kids. I wouldn't nobody

986
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I was ready to shoot that.

987
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 2: I'm different now, I'm grown.

988
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not doing I don't want no problem to

989
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 3: But back then, wild wild West, whatever fib was.

990
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: One play you what you could have played with. I'm

991
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: gonna say d the White Howard. I'm gonna say the

992
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: White how Early just off the fact, because I think

993
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: it was like a rumor that they were trying to

994
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: trade for me early, like my rookie year or secondary

995
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: to go there. And I remember talking to D White

996
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: in l A for like the All Star He was like,

997
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: what's up, trying to like, you know, and you know, DW. Whight,

998
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Howard and Orlando.

999
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted everybody I was on this team that I

1000
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: was on on this team that year two thousand year

1001
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: they were they were traded Mary Nelson for you then,

1002
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: right yeah yeah, so hey, let me tell you he

1003
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: was a bad d White was a bad motherfucker And.

1004
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: They got to the finals that year. Yeah, so I know, yeah,

1005
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: that was yeah.

1006
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was for that was that

1007
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: was the year before I the year they went to

1008
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: the finals.

1009
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: The year before the year we played you guys.

1010
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: They swept them, like the only one I've ever heard

1011
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: like a rumor heard like that.

1012
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: They were like Orlando calling was calling early my rookie year,

1013
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: And I.

1014
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: Was like, like, be tough because we have We had

1015
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: a nice It was the white we had go Gordon.

1016
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: Uh yeah he was he left the year though he

1017
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 1: got We had gor Tis. That's the year Me, Vince

1018
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: and j Will all came that Yearney Lee right now,

1019
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: Courtney was gone. That was Courtney had just left for

1020
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: Charle Lewis.

1021
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: Was there everybody? Everybody?

1022
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a squad stand. Gunny tightened up on.

1023
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: Us and I ended up playing for Stand in Detroit?

1024
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: Did you I like standing x and Os but like

1025
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: under pressure, it gets a little funny sometimes, but x

1026
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: and O's incredible. He just phones out of his corner

1027
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: of his mouth too much.

1028
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: So that's uncomfortable.

1029
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: Make sure your ship ain't fucked up. And yeah he drinks.

1030
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: You get that drinking soda all day? How you get

1031
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: that drinking soda all day?

1032
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: If you could give one player advice about bis moves

1033
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: and in fashion, who would it be?

1034
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: What would it be?

1035
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: Man?

1036
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: You got to be yourself and you got to know

1037
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: yourself through it all, and you got to keep your relationships.

1038
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: Like a lot of my collabse and a lot of

1039
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: things I do with tough crowd of people that I've

1040
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: dealt with in my career early, right and Dahmer for one,

1041
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: have a collaborat Undarmer. I'm whearing. I got you know,

1042
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: carry brand. You know, we got our basketball court at

1043
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: Roley Park. I'm still doing stuff with the Bucks. Everything's

1044
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: been full circle for me. So and and think about

1045
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: the brand like, yo, you drop it when you ready,

1046
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, like when you're ready. Like, man,

1047
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: I spent so much money early just giving out tough

1048
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: crowd early just to see if people just want like

1049
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, you know, shout out Jordan Clarkson. You know,

1050
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: he was one of the first persons to ever like

1051
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: support me with it. You know, he told me it

1052
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: was gonna go. Stanley Johnson also, so you know, I

1053
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: got it to my peers and I just stay true

1054
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: to myself. Man, Like it's a community, right, Like if

1055
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: I can get like right now, I got fifty people,

1056
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: I know for sure that I can give a tough

1057
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: crowd too, and we can walk outside and moth to

1058
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: see it. I'm one of them, right, you know what

1059
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I can, like if you could just

1060
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: get that community in that community, and once you have that, man,

1061
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: it's gonna take off? Are you a believer? It ain't

1062
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: about it ain't about what you got own is who

1063
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: got it on.

1064
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if a designer could think like that.

1065
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: Like you might think you got to have on Louis

1066
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 3: Vatian to be that, but I got on Tough Crowd, nigga,

1067
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm me.

1068
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: So it ain't about what you got owns about who

1069
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: have it on or who's behind it? Yeah? Who behind it? Okay?

1070
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah you feel about player? I love it. I think

1071
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: more players should do it. Black owned ship. He got

1072
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: his own shoe. I mean if they gonna if they're

1073
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: gonna put you in that, they're gonna put you in

1074
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: that box. You know, they put you in that box

1075
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: like you know where you know they feel like you're

1076
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: too big or whatever. Yeah, go start your own thing

1077
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: like like me Tough Crowd. I can do whatever I

1078
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: want with Tough Crowd. Can't Nobody tell me nothing like

1079
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: that's the beauty of one your own brand. We got

1080
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: to start owning our own things like and then build

1081
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: it like it's not about Oh tomorrow is gonna take

1082
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: off like man, Tough Crowd like it's five years. In

1083
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: the first two years, I didn't even sell nothing. I

1084
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: just gave it away. Like I'm in my third year

1085
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: right now, like it's still early, like I'm just getting

1086
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: my feet wet like my first two years. I'm just

1087
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 2: giving it away, trying to just feel what the the

1088
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: with the atmosphere, what the universe is saying, like you know,

1089
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, Chris Brown is wearing it. Now

1090
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: we're out of here. Like I just stay true to myself,

1091
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: and you know, tough crowd is tough, like we all

1092
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: live a tough crowd. Still a brand when you're smile

1093
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: like that, and Chris Brown, Chris Brown starts wearing your ship.

1094
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: Your order is like the does a psyde crash as

1095
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: you drive up a whole bunch of numbers or just

1096
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: over time. Yeah, I mean, man, Chris. I mean when

1097
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: I met Chris, it was during the COVID time. So

1098
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: you know, this is when I'm in the crib with

1099
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: me and my girl and man, we're trying to figure

1100
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: this thing out. We're like, man, you know, it's hard

1101
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: to get clothes. We spraying close down, you know, boom boom.

1102
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: We're doing just we're going from my house to Chris

1103
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: house and we playing basketball every day and Chris is

1104
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: like wearing tough crowd every day and we able to

1105
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, he's posting it and you know it was

1106
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: a blessing. And next thing you know, man, the or

1107
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: is coming in like crazy.

1108
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: It's like you know, you know, yeah, it's that work.

1109
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: Chris, that boy, Chris, that guy. Yeah, you know what

1110
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's when it comes to that fashion. But yeah, man,

1111
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: that was the That was a staple of getting us in.

1112
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: You know what. Me and my girl was just sitting

1113
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: the house and grind it out. I was down there

1114
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: doing packages all through COVID, like shipping everybody stuff out

1115
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: like where everybody was in the house. So just you

1116
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: gotta find a way to just keep going. Like that's

1117
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: the thing. Once you stop, the brand is a rap

1118
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: or you're gonna have to find a way to build

1119
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: it up, like even when it's getting low, Like you

1120
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: just gotta keep pushing it. Find avenues, be creative, like

1121
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: think like you know what I'm saying. I see us Hoopers.

1122
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: We've been around so much in our life. I'm in Italy,

1123
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: I've been to China, I've been a Russian man, Like

1124
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: I better dress like this, I should better be flying.

1125
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: You know what you think about Kyrie's in to move.

1126
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, I love it. He's another one man.

1127
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: They want to shut you out. We're gonna find another avenue. Yeah, man,

1128
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: I love it. Bro It's it's you know, shout out

1129
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: to Kyrie. Yeah, you know he's you know, he's in

1130
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: his own lane. He's doing his own thing, man. Like

1131
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, he got his family. I spent some time

1132
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: with him, probably like a month ago before the season. Man.

1133
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: We was out and is a beautiful home in Malibu.

1134
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: Man with his family. He was cooking steaks. Yeah, everybody's

1135
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: got on a grill, just cooking steaks. H And we're

1136
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: just talking about life. Man, Just hearing them talk about

1137
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: life and you know what he wants to do and

1138
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: things in life. It's just beautiful. Like he got his

1139
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: lane still going. He tapped into his spiritual mos.

1140
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1141
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 2: I love it too. Yeah, shout out Spice too, man.

1142
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: Quick hitters. First thing to come to mind. Let us

1143
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: know your top five of all time.

1144
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: For one, I'm gonna have to go with now. I'm

1145
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: going with what I see all right, I'm going Steph,

1146
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm going cold. I'm going bron kd I'm going back. Yeah,

1147
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: that what you're saying. That one album that you play

1148
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: right now on repeat, Lauren Hill, miss educated, Yeah of course,

1149
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: and she sat it right here on my legs.

1150
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1151
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: One, the one album, queen. Like all your albums up, you.

1152
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: Can keep doing one every six months and it ain't

1153
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: on top of that.

1154
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: One childhood crush. Oh man, that's got them cheese and

1155
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: damn who was it?

1156
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: My girls here child, you're grown child? Uh no, halle

1157
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: Berry for sure, come on join and she she put

1158
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: that foot on in the flintstones.

1159
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: That's that's the whole life crush, my teenage grown man,

1160
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: all that crush, guilty pleasure, the treat for sure, the

1161
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: tree guilty Tree, yeah, weed and some gentlemen's cut, Yeah

1162
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 3: yeah yeah and my girl yeah yeah you good.

1163
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: All I need in is life of saying, uh tough

1164
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: a dream, tough crowd crowd collab, your dream collapse.

1165
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: My dream tough crowd collapse would have to be with

1166
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: Rick Owens, Yeah, sucking them up right now, Rick Owens

1167
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: or Burberry, Oh, Burbary, I'm gonna go yeah, because it's different.

1168
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: It's something that people would see coming. Best food spot

1169
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: on you now beyond you.

1170
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: You got a relationships with a lot of no servicemen

1171
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: in Inglewood, Inglewood black class.

1172
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Service.

1173
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: We got some merch for you.

1174
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: You came with gifts for us, so thank you. It's

1175
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: only returned to favor the green light you did. So

1176
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: we got some hats for you. We got the tour hats.

1177
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: They didn't know what color you were banging these days,

1178
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: so they gave you red and blue here yeah, black black,

1179
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: black lighters. We got the t shirts already, and then

1180
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: we got our new you can get this coffee table

1181
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: all the smoke book dot Com our new coffee table book,

1182
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: first podcast, everyone the coffee table book. Simon shoots to

1183
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: get your ship now brand got one for free.

1184
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: Yea, you know what I'm saying. Thank you.

1185
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, man, Thanks you for coming through. Continue success, bro,

1186
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: we love the lane. We gotta we gotta collabse that

1187
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: we gotta do all the smoke tough crowd collapse.

1188
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, let's collapse. Man. I'm proud of everybody. Bro.

1189
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: All our second career is gonna be our basketball ye

1190
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: come on, let nobody tell you like you know, I'm

1191
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: bigger than what I was when I first played. So

1192
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep going. We're gonna keep pushing, absolutely, gonna

1193
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: keep believing in God it, We're gonna keep helping our young.

1194
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: There we go.

1195
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: Man, that's a wrap. Brandon Jennings. You can catch this

1196
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: on All the Smoke Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network.

1197
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: See y'all next week.