WEBVTT - Cheatin' Charles Lindbergh 0:00:08.245 --> 0:00:09.645 School of humans. 0:00:11.165 --> 0:00:14.045 Men will literally do anything to cheat on their wives, 0:00:14.685 --> 0:00:18.725 including innovate air travel and doing the first solo NonStop 0:00:18.725 --> 0:00:22.805 flight across the Atlantic Ocean, whomest. 0:00:22.405 --> 0:00:24.485 Am I alluding to, well none other. 0:00:24.325 --> 0:00:30.125 Than Charles Lindbergh Lucky Lindy, as he was called. Other 0:00:30.205 --> 0:00:34.205 pilots had crossed this ocean, the first being two Brits 0:00:34.245 --> 0:00:38.005 in nineteen nineteen, but they went a shorter distance between 0:00:38.005 --> 0:00:42.165 Newfoundland and Ireland. The flight took sixteen hours, and they 0:00:42.205 --> 0:00:44.325 had the emotional and physical support. 0:00:44.005 --> 0:00:44.565 Of each other. 0:00:46.205 --> 0:00:49.285 Lindburgh, on the other hand, he was all alone on 0:00:49.325 --> 0:00:53.285 that flight in nineteen twenty seven and traveled a longer 0:00:53.325 --> 0:00:55.325 distance from New York to Paris. 0:00:55.885 --> 0:00:58.085 It took him thirty three and a half hours. 0:01:01.085 --> 0:01:04.245 And I know the most pressing question on everybody's mind. 0:01:04.245 --> 0:01:08.205 I'm sure you are all wondering this. That flight was 0:01:08.245 --> 0:01:11.525 long as hell. How did Lucky Lindy use the toilet 0:01:11.565 --> 0:01:16.085 while flying that plane? And maybe you're like Gabby, that 0:01:16.245 --> 0:01:20.165 was actually not my first question, but this question was 0:01:20.245 --> 0:01:24.245 on the mind of many esteemed people like myself, For example, 0:01:24.325 --> 0:01:30.285 the British monarch King George the Fifth. After Lindbergh completed 0:01:30.325 --> 0:01:33.485 his flight. King George invited Lindbergh to England to fly 0:01:33.605 --> 0:01:35.005 his personal plane. 0:01:35.685 --> 0:01:37.165 He was like, yeah, buddy, get your. 0:01:37.045 --> 0:01:41.645 Cock in that cockpit. And during that visit, King George 0:01:41.725 --> 0:01:45.005 was like, so there's one thing I want to know, 0:01:46.205 --> 0:01:49.965 how did you pee? Lucky Lindy's plane was called the 0:01:50.005 --> 0:01:52.605 Spirit of Saint Louis, which, honestly. 0:01:52.245 --> 0:01:54.165 That has a terrible vibe or a. 0:01:54.125 --> 0:01:57.925 Plane, the Spirit of Saint Louis, what is it? Drunk 0:01:58.005 --> 0:02:01.405 and didn't graduate from high school. But the Spirit of 0:02:01.445 --> 0:02:04.725 Saint Louis could fit one person. There are no flight attendants, 0:02:04.725 --> 0:02:07.925 no snacks, no more. And of course the plane didn't 0:02:07.925 --> 0:02:11.645 have a bathroom. So our Charlie boy Lindbergh told the 0:02:11.765 --> 0:02:15.965 King how he relieved himself. His pilot chair was made 0:02:15.965 --> 0:02:18.245 out of wicker and he'd cut a hole in it 0:02:18.605 --> 0:02:22.125 below which there is a funnel leading to an aluminum 0:02:22.165 --> 0:02:28.085 can where waste of any sort could be stored. So, Fellas, 0:02:28.605 --> 0:02:31.325 I hope you never feel ashamed of peeing sitting down. 0:02:31.925 --> 0:02:35.845 It's what revered cultural figure Charles Lindbergh did. I mean, 0:02:35.885 --> 0:02:39.565 sure he was doing it because he had certain space constraints. 0:02:40.205 --> 0:02:43.605 But if anyone ever questions your masculinity because you sit 0:02:43.685 --> 0:02:48.405 down to pe admonish them by saying, don't bother me, 0:02:49.005 --> 0:02:59.045 I'm making a transatlantic flight that will show them. Before 0:02:59.085 --> 0:03:02.965 he landed on that historic flight, though lucky Lindy got 0:03:03.045 --> 0:03:06.325 rid of his waist by dumping it somewhere over the 0:03:06.365 --> 0:03:12.485 French countryside. But anyway, this episode is not about pissing. No, 0:03:12.565 --> 0:03:19.965 it's about cheating. When Lindbergh completed that flight in nineteen 0:03:20.005 --> 0:03:25.405 twenty seven, he became a celebrity, a global sensation. Basically, 0:03:25.445 --> 0:03:28.565 he was the Taylor Swift of the nineteen twenties, not 0:03:28.685 --> 0:03:31.325 just because he became a huge star, but because he 0:03:31.405 --> 0:03:35.765 traveled by plane with significant greenhouse gas emissions. But the 0:03:35.805 --> 0:03:39.045 problem with planes, as I alluded to earlier, is that 0:03:39.085 --> 0:03:42.805 they take you places. Specifically, they can take you places 0:03:42.845 --> 0:03:47.485 far away, far away enough from your wife, but you 0:03:47.525 --> 0:03:50.645 can land in the arms of another woman, or, in 0:03:50.645 --> 0:03:55.245 Lindberg's case, the arms of three ladies in Germany, to 0:03:55.445 --> 0:04:05.645 the theme song this is American filth and I'm Gabby wattsy week, 0:04:05.685 --> 0:04:09.165 I tell you a filthy story from American history. This 0:04:09.285 --> 0:04:18.885 week's episode Cheating Charles Glenn Burgh d Do Do Dig 0:04:18.925 --> 0:04:25.725 Do Do Do did do. 0:04:27.805 --> 0:04:37.285 Excuse me. First, in order to cheat on your wife, 0:04:37.805 --> 0:04:41.445 you must acquire a wife to cheat on. So let's 0:04:41.445 --> 0:04:42.485 talk about that first. 0:04:43.805 --> 0:04:46.565 Glennburgh was a twenty five year old bachelor when he 0:04:46.605 --> 0:04:48.565 completed that transatlantic flight. 0:04:50.205 --> 0:04:52.285 Though, are you called a bachelor that young of an age? 0:04:52.325 --> 0:04:52.725 I don't know. 0:04:52.765 --> 0:04:56.445 He was a playboy, he flew a plane and now 0:04:56.445 --> 0:05:00.165 he's gonna wet that Willie, I guess. But you know, 0:05:00.285 --> 0:05:03.925 he was a famous guy. I'm sure the ladies were 0:05:03.925 --> 0:05:07.845 going wild for him and Lindenbergh as a person, he 0:05:07.965 --> 0:05:10.365 was reserved and withdrawn a law at the time, but 0:05:10.485 --> 0:05:14.925 he was also kind of a condescending little bitch, just 0:05:15.005 --> 0:05:18.565 a little bit in a really sadistic sense of humor. 0:05:19.245 --> 0:05:22.245 Like one time back in his airmail piloting. 0:05:21.805 --> 0:05:24.405 Days, as a joke, he filled up the glass of 0:05:24.445 --> 0:05:29.045 one of his fellow pilots with kerosene. The pilot drank 0:05:29.085 --> 0:05:32.645 it and nearly died, and it's like, yeah, boys will 0:05:32.645 --> 0:05:35.605 be boys and boys will do pranks, but that one 0:05:35.685 --> 0:05:38.605 went a bit far. Another time, he put a shit 0:05:38.685 --> 0:05:42.085 ton of laxatives in a fellow pilot's food and then 0:05:42.085 --> 0:05:43.805 the pilot produced a ton of shit. 0:05:45.925 --> 0:05:48.045 But blah blah blah character flaws. 0:05:51.645 --> 0:05:55.125 After his big Boy flight, Lindbergh was famous, so he 0:05:55.205 --> 0:06:00.605 was doing what famous people do, making public appearances. He 0:06:00.685 --> 0:06:04.645 was touring around the country giving talks on aviation, working 0:06:04.685 --> 0:06:08.885 in aircraft design, and flying goodwill missions to various nations 0:06:08.925 --> 0:06:12.325 in Latin America. At the end of nineteen twenty seven, 0:06:12.365 --> 0:06:15.405 he went down to Mexico and there he met up 0:06:15.405 --> 0:06:19.765 with the US's ambassador to Mexico, Dwight Morrow, And while 0:06:19.765 --> 0:06:26.765 he was down there, he met Ambassador Marrow's daughter Anne. 0:06:29.085 --> 0:06:30.925 Anne was twenty one at the time and down in 0:06:30.965 --> 0:06:35.925 Mexico visiting her dad while on break from college. Anne 0:06:35.965 --> 0:06:38.725 was introverted in shy and she was at Smith College 0:06:38.725 --> 0:06:42.565 studying writing. And being introverted in shy can make some 0:06:42.645 --> 0:06:46.285 people think you're very mysterious. And Charles Limberg. 0:06:45.965 --> 0:06:47.125 Was like a wuga. 0:06:47.165 --> 0:06:51.965 I like this lady, and Morrow also had a little 0:06:52.005 --> 0:06:53.965 a wuga in her as well when she looked at 0:06:54.045 --> 0:06:58.925 Charles Limberg. But she was also kind of nervous, afraid 0:06:59.725 --> 0:07:03.085 he was this huge star taking an interest in her, 0:07:04.525 --> 0:07:07.525 she wrote in her diary meeting Charles, who by the way, 0:07:07.605 --> 0:07:11.885 was six to two, not bad, She wrote, he is 0:07:11.925 --> 0:07:14.565 taller than anyone else. You see his head in a 0:07:14.605 --> 0:07:18.325 moving crowd, and you notice his glance where it turns 0:07:18.645 --> 0:07:22.325 as though it were keener, clearer, and brighter than anybody else's, 0:07:22.845 --> 0:07:26.325 lit with a more intense fire. What could I say 0:07:26.365 --> 0:07:29.445 to this boy? Anything I might say would be trivial 0:07:29.485 --> 0:07:34.205 and superficial, like pink frosting flowers. I felt the whole 0:07:34.245 --> 0:07:42.125 world before this to be frivolous, superficial, ephemeral. After that, 0:07:42.205 --> 0:07:44.485 they went on two dates and got engaged, and they 0:07:44.525 --> 0:07:50.165 finally got married in May nineteen twenty nine. Anne was 0:07:50.165 --> 0:07:53.485 first a writer, but soon she became Charles's co pilot. 0:07:54.205 --> 0:07:57.045 She also learned how to fly solo, and in nineteen 0:07:57.085 --> 0:07:59.245 thirty she was the first woman to get a glider 0:07:59.325 --> 0:08:09.845 plane license. Since their first date, Charles and Anne Lindbergh's 0:08:09.925 --> 0:08:12.965 coupling made the public go goo goo for gossip. 0:08:16.165 --> 0:08:18.165 Everybody wanted to know everything about them. 0:08:18.365 --> 0:08:21.485 They were the it couple of the time, kind of 0:08:21.485 --> 0:08:24.925 like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey or p Diddy and 0:08:25.005 --> 0:08:26.045 Baby Oil. 0:08:27.925 --> 0:08:28.485 And Anne. 0:08:28.645 --> 0:08:30.725 Obviously, I feel like for most people this would be 0:08:30.725 --> 0:08:34.285 the case. She found this really uncomfortable. She wrote about 0:08:34.325 --> 0:08:36.205 what it felt like to be surrounded by so much 0:08:36.285 --> 0:08:39.685 press all the time. She was like a deer hunted 0:08:39.685 --> 0:08:45.805 by smiling, smirky, sure of themselves, relentless hunters. And then 0:08:45.845 --> 0:08:49.485 at home, Charles himself was a little overpowering. He could 0:08:49.485 --> 0:08:53.525 be mean and controlling. His life became her life. At 0:08:53.565 --> 0:08:55.965 the dinner table, he would bring Anna to do list, 0:08:56.885 --> 0:09:00.485 but she also ended up doing to his kids. Over 0:09:00.525 --> 0:09:03.485 the course of their marriage, they had six children, but 0:09:03.565 --> 0:09:06.365 the press started going extra crazy Charles and Ann in 0:09:06.445 --> 0:09:15.605 nineteen thirty two because of a terrible tragedy. The Limburgs 0:09:15.605 --> 0:09:18.325 were living on a lavish est day in New Jersey, 0:09:18.605 --> 0:09:20.445 because we all know that's where you go when you 0:09:20.485 --> 0:09:25.245 become famous New Jersey. And in nineteen thirty and bird 0:09:25.285 --> 0:09:29.965 their first child, little Charles Lindbergh Junior. But on March first, 0:09:30.005 --> 0:09:33.165 nineteen thirty two, someone crawled through the window of the 0:09:33.245 --> 0:09:36.085 nursery where the little twenty month year old babe was 0:09:36.085 --> 0:09:41.125 sleeping and kidnapped him. The kidnapper left behind a ransom 0:09:41.165 --> 0:09:44.925 note demanding fifty thousand dollars. The note had a lot 0:09:44.925 --> 0:09:48.845 of spelling errors and featured this odd cryptic symbol at 0:09:48.845 --> 0:09:53.765 the bottom of the page. Obviously, any child being kidnapped 0:09:53.805 --> 0:09:57.125 is a big deal and should be taken seriously, but 0:09:57.205 --> 0:10:03.365 because it was a Limburg baby, everybody went berserk, especially 0:10:03.445 --> 0:10:06.685 after the baby was found dead with his skull cruestion 0:10:07.245 --> 0:10:12.405 on May twelfth. There was a huge hunt for the 0:10:12.485 --> 0:10:15.885 kidnapper that went all the way to the top. Even 0:10:15.925 --> 0:10:19.205 President Roosevelt got involved later on in the investigation when 0:10:19.205 --> 0:10:23.405 he took office in nineteen thirty three. Eventually, a man 0:10:23.485 --> 0:10:26.485 was arrested for kidnapping and child murder, put on trial, 0:10:26.645 --> 0:10:34.685 found guilty, and executed by electric chair. This whole episode 0:10:34.725 --> 0:10:38.205 was dubbed the crime of the Century, even though I 0:10:38.205 --> 0:10:40.365 mean it was the nineteen thirties, so there was a 0:10:40.405 --> 0:10:43.525 lot more century left, so perhaps they were a bit 0:10:43.565 --> 0:10:50.725 premature in their assessment. Now, any marriage has difficulties surviving 0:10:50.765 --> 0:10:56.365 when you're raising children, but then your child dies, it 0:10:56.365 --> 0:10:58.925 would make sense that afterwards Charles and Ann had some 0:10:59.045 --> 0:11:04.165 marital issues That would totally make sense. But the two 0:11:04.565 --> 0:11:08.005 stayed together and even while the trial was happening, they 0:11:08.005 --> 0:11:11.685 had another son, and just to lower everyone's heart rate, 0:11:12.245 --> 0:11:16.685 they did have five children total who survived, and none 0:11:16.725 --> 0:11:17.685 of them were kidnapped. 0:11:17.885 --> 0:11:23.805 Okay, just so you guys know that they had this 0:11:23.925 --> 0:11:24.525 second son. 0:11:25.445 --> 0:11:30.205 And in the aftermath of the kidnapping of Charles Junior, 0:11:31.125 --> 0:11:35.365 the crime of the century, the Lindberghs were understandably overwhelmed 0:11:35.365 --> 0:11:37.685 by the press, so much press. 0:11:37.525 --> 0:11:38.925 So many people bothering them. 0:11:39.325 --> 0:11:43.325 So in nineteen thirty five they decided to move to Europe. 0:11:43.565 --> 0:11:46.165 They lived in England, they lived in France, but one 0:11:46.205 --> 0:11:49.725 of the places where they really wanted to live was Germany. 0:11:50.485 --> 0:11:52.685 And you want to be thinking, why the fuck. 0:11:52.485 --> 0:11:56.685 Would you move to Germany in the nineteen thirties, because 0:11:56.805 --> 0:11:59.605 you I remember, that was when this guy named Adolf 0:11:59.805 --> 0:12:05.085 Hitler was in power, freaking Hitler. And here's the thing 0:12:05.125 --> 0:12:09.085 about the Limburg's that's real messy, is that both Ann 0:12:09.125 --> 0:12:13.685 and Charles frickin' loved Germany. They loved the culture, the 0:12:13.765 --> 0:12:18.325 technological advancements, they loved the company. They even thought Hitler 0:12:18.485 --> 0:12:22.765 was doing a great job and described him as a 0:12:22.965 --> 0:12:28.965 very great man, like an inspired religious leader. And in turn, 0:12:29.085 --> 0:12:33.445 the Nazis loved the Limburgs. Ann and Charles attended the 0:12:33.485 --> 0:12:36.685 Olympics in Berlin as special guests in nineteen thirty six, 0:12:37.085 --> 0:12:39.725 and then the Nazis gave Charles a medal for his 0:12:39.845 --> 0:12:45.165 contributions to aviation. The Nazis and the Lindbergh sitting in 0:12:45.205 --> 0:12:52.405 a tree kill I and g we love it. The 0:12:52.485 --> 0:12:55.565 Limburgs loved Germany so much that in nineteen thirty nine 0:12:55.605 --> 0:12:57.365 they were about to move into a house in the 0:12:57.405 --> 0:13:03.005 suburbs of Berlin. But alas the Nazis Hitler were committing 0:13:03.125 --> 0:13:06.645 genocide and war broke out, you know, that little World 0:13:06.645 --> 0:13:11.285 War two, and the Limburgs were like, drat, I guess 0:13:11.285 --> 0:13:13.405 we have to go back to the United States. Now, 0:13:14.445 --> 0:13:20.485 the stupid United States. That's not nearly as awesome as freakin' Germany. 0:13:23.485 --> 0:13:25.685 When the Limbergs got back to the US, they brought 0:13:25.725 --> 0:13:29.485 that hazad Germany energy with them. But the problem with 0:13:29.525 --> 0:13:33.045 that energy in the United States and in general, was 0:13:33.085 --> 0:13:37.525 that Germany was a fascist country, committing heinous atrocities and 0:13:37.605 --> 0:13:45.485 attacking the United States's allies. And Charles Limberg in the 0:13:45.565 --> 0:13:48.885 US he became a big spokesman against the US. 0:13:48.765 --> 0:13:49.485 Entering the war. 0:13:50.165 --> 0:13:53.405 He was like, we need to practice some isolationist stuff 0:13:53.445 --> 0:13:58.525 because Germany is super technologically advanced. Hitler is an amazing leader. 0:13:59.205 --> 0:14:03.285 The US should just not bother getting involved and Limberg 0:14:03.365 --> 0:14:05.165 was like, yeah, I'm saying all this stuff to like 0:14:05.205 --> 0:14:09.525 pert he the United States, right, America, first, the way 0:14:09.565 --> 0:14:11.965 to protect ourselves is to not get involved with the war, 0:14:12.685 --> 0:14:17.045 because again, Germany is freaking amazing. But at the same time, 0:14:17.165 --> 0:14:18.925 a lot of the stuff he was saying was a 0:14:18.925 --> 0:14:25.045 little sympathetic to fascism and a hint anti Semitic, And 0:14:25.245 --> 0:14:29.005 Lindberg was also out there defending Germany. She wrote a 0:14:29.005 --> 0:14:32.485 booklet called The Wave of the Future, and the United 0:14:32.525 --> 0:14:36.605 States government was like, this is fascist propaganda. 0:14:36.685 --> 0:14:38.965 Even Charlotte's Web author E. B. 0:14:39.125 --> 0:14:41.805 White got involved and called her a fascist tramp and 0:14:41.845 --> 0:14:45.405 everything that she was saying was absurd. And then when 0:14:45.405 --> 0:14:49.205 Pearl Harbor was attacked in nineteen forty one, the Limburg's 0:14:49.245 --> 0:14:51.245 finally conceded and we're like, yeah, I guess the US 0:14:51.285 --> 0:14:56.445 shouldet involved, you know whatever. After all of that, the 0:14:56.485 --> 0:14:59.605 Limburgs were no longer in the good graces of the public, 0:15:00.405 --> 0:15:04.525 and their reputations were forever stained throughout their lifetimes. But 0:15:04.645 --> 0:15:08.325 the fact that they there were fascist sympathizers, anti Semitic 0:15:08.405 --> 0:15:11.765 and thought Hitler was awesome. That can do a thing 0:15:11.845 --> 0:15:16.525 or two to your reputation. After the war, they kind 0:15:16.525 --> 0:15:21.045 of kept to themselves, but their reputations did recover a 0:15:21.045 --> 0:15:25.125 bit and kept writing, and in the nineteen fifties she 0:15:25.205 --> 0:15:27.765 wrote a proto feminist book called Gift from the Sea 0:15:28.245 --> 0:15:31.445 that became an instant bestseller and also became foundational to 0:15:31.485 --> 0:15:35.045 a lot of American women's lives. It was received so 0:15:35.245 --> 0:15:39.085 well that people started forgetting about the whole and drooling 0:15:39.165 --> 0:15:42.845 over Hitler thing. In the decades after the war, Charles 0:15:42.845 --> 0:15:46.805 Limberg kept flying around the world, innovating tech and promoting 0:15:46.845 --> 0:15:47.845 air travel. 0:15:48.405 --> 0:15:50.725 And today when you hear his name, you're probably like, ha. 0:15:51.165 --> 0:15:54.085 Yeah, that's the plane guy, not that guy who thought 0:15:54.085 --> 0:15:58.805 that Hitler was awesome. And Charles Limberg he died in 0:15:58.885 --> 0:16:03.165 nineteen seventy four, leaving behind a huge legacy of aviation 0:16:03.525 --> 0:16:06.045 and he's still a major figure in American history today. 0:16:07.045 --> 0:16:11.605 But he actually left behind even more than that, because 0:16:11.645 --> 0:16:14.525 after he died, it was discovered. 0:16:14.445 --> 0:16:16.445 That he was a bit of a serial cheater. 0:16:17.565 --> 0:16:23.085 And he didn't just have one secret family, he had three. 0:16:23.245 --> 0:16:25.925 As we like to say in American filth, what a 0:16:26.005 --> 0:16:27.565 guy be. 0:16:27.645 --> 0:16:31.885 Right back after these soothing advertisements, So we're finally at 0:16:31.925 --> 0:16:34.565 the part where we talk about how Charles Lindberg is 0:16:34.605 --> 0:16:38.685 a cheater. But to add some more hot goss to 0:16:38.765 --> 0:16:43.885 this episode, it was actually Anne Lindenberg who cheated first. 0:16:44.565 --> 0:16:52.165 How exciting. So after World War Two, Charles and Ann 0:16:52.205 --> 0:16:55.885 were having some relationship issues and I'm not trying. 0:16:55.605 --> 0:16:59.165 To sympathize with these Nazi apologists or whatever, but they 0:16:59.245 --> 0:17:03.205 had been through a lot. There was the constant public scrutiny, 0:17:03.365 --> 0:17:06.085 the kidnapping and death of their first son, hanging out 0:17:06.125 --> 0:17:09.605 with Nazis and then being vilified because they were literal villains, 0:17:10.245 --> 0:17:13.045 then the war, and after the war, Anne had a 0:17:13.085 --> 0:17:18.045 traumatic miscarriage. She was feeling bad, so she started seeing 0:17:18.045 --> 0:17:21.925 a psychiatrist. Charles got really pissed off about this. He 0:17:22.045 --> 0:17:25.485 was like, how dare you see a psychiatrist? Why would 0:17:25.525 --> 0:17:29.445 you need psychiatric treatment? That's for weak people. But also, 0:17:29.525 --> 0:17:31.605 I don't want you to be doing that because then 0:17:31.645 --> 0:17:34.005 you're gonna start sharing intimate knowledge about our marriage with 0:17:34.005 --> 0:17:37.965 some rando. I don't like that one bit, because remember 0:17:38.045 --> 0:17:39.965 Charles Limberg, he was a bit of a control freak. 0:17:41.125 --> 0:17:41.805 But Anne went. 0:17:41.685 --> 0:17:45.885 Anyway, and Charles kind of stopped talking to her and 0:17:45.925 --> 0:17:51.645 they began sleeping separately. A few years later and published 0:17:51.645 --> 0:17:55.325 her best selling book. And then a year after that, 0:17:56.085 --> 0:18:02.525 she started sleeping with her doctor, whoa major hip. 0:18:02.325 --> 0:18:03.645 Of violation right there. 0:18:04.445 --> 0:18:06.925 I think that's like rule number two, don't sleep with 0:18:06.965 --> 0:18:11.125 your patience. And that affair lasted for about three years. 0:18:13.405 --> 0:18:17.765 And the year after that affair started, Charles Lindberg started 0:18:17.805 --> 0:18:23.165 his own Now, some people might be quick to be 0:18:23.325 --> 0:18:26.765 like hey and had an affair, ergo, Charles was totally 0:18:26.885 --> 0:18:30.285 justified in getting some of his own hanky panky on 0:18:30.325 --> 0:18:33.725 the side. But I will contend that it is never 0:18:33.805 --> 0:18:36.445 good to cheat. Wow, so brave of me to say. 0:18:37.085 --> 0:18:39.805 And also, what we're about to hear about are the 0:18:40.005 --> 0:18:43.685 known affairs of Charles Lindberg. But that man was flying 0:18:43.685 --> 0:18:46.685 around the world a lot, so who knows what shenanigans 0:18:46.685 --> 0:18:50.685 he got into over the course of his lifetime. Yes, 0:18:50.765 --> 0:18:53.405 I am throwing major shade and conjecture at this man 0:18:53.765 --> 0:18:58.525 because he was mean, controlling, manipulative, and he would just 0:18:58.565 --> 0:19:01.405 do whatever the heck he wanted and be away from 0:19:01.405 --> 0:19:03.725 home for months and months, and then he would come 0:19:03.725 --> 0:19:06.765 back to his family and be a little bitch to 0:19:06.845 --> 0:19:09.525 discipline his kids. He'd be like, this isn't a democracy, 0:19:09.765 --> 0:19:11.245 this is a dictatorship. 0:19:12.085 --> 0:19:12.925 Not a nice guy. 0:19:13.965 --> 0:19:16.165 I would cheat on his ass too, because he's so annoying. 0:19:16.765 --> 0:19:19.445 But here's how we know about what happened in Germany. 0:19:23.445 --> 0:19:25.805 So in two thousand and three, this was many decades 0:19:25.845 --> 0:19:29.605 after Charles Lindberg had died, three German siblings came forward 0:19:29.645 --> 0:19:34.765 and like, hey, we're the grown children of Charles Lindberg. Now, 0:19:34.805 --> 0:19:38.805 obviously this was a big deal. Everyone was like, what 0:19:38.845 --> 0:19:42.845 the hell the esteemed pilot and sympathetic fascist, American hero 0:19:42.925 --> 0:19:46.645 and American enemy Charles Lindberg had some extramarital children. 0:19:46.685 --> 0:19:48.285 No freaking way, that's crazy. 0:19:49.725 --> 0:19:53.045 The three German siblings, two sons, one daughter, said that 0:19:53.085 --> 0:19:56.365 they made this discovery in the nineteen eighties. The daughter 0:19:56.605 --> 0:19:59.045 had seen a picture of Charles Lindberg in a magazine 0:19:59.125 --> 0:20:02.765 article and was like, I recognize that guy. That's the 0:20:02.805 --> 0:20:06.005 same guy who would visit mom two or three times year, 0:20:06.885 --> 0:20:11.245 but he never said he was Charles frickin Lindburg. Then 0:20:11.325 --> 0:20:13.725 the three siblings found one hundred and fifty letters from 0:20:13.805 --> 0:20:16.365 Charles Lindberg to their mother that she had put in 0:20:16.445 --> 0:20:19.525 a pile of trash, Which makes me think I got 0:20:19.525 --> 0:20:25.525 to go through my mom's trash more often. What had 0:20:25.525 --> 0:20:28.405 happened was Charles Lindbergh was flying around all over the world. 0:20:29.005 --> 0:20:31.885 He was working as the director of Pan American Airlines, 0:20:32.245 --> 0:20:34.965 and he was also doing some undercover work for President 0:20:35.005 --> 0:20:35.405 Dwight D. 0:20:35.525 --> 0:20:36.205 Eisenhower. 0:20:37.445 --> 0:20:39.525 Both of these jobs let him scoot around the world 0:20:39.605 --> 0:20:42.925 with ease, you know, he was undercover, but he could 0:20:42.925 --> 0:20:51.645 also easily get under the covers with other women. One 0:20:51.685 --> 0:20:56.045 of those women was Brigitte Hessheimer. In nineteen fifty seven, 0:20:56.085 --> 0:20:58.925 she was thirty one and a hat maker, and that 0:20:59.125 --> 0:21:02.525 year she met Charles Lindberg and. 0:21:02.445 --> 0:21:06.525 They started their affair together. 0:21:06.565 --> 0:21:08.565 They had three children, and these were the people who 0:21:08.605 --> 0:21:12.245 came forward, But Brigitte and Charles never revealed to the 0:21:12.325 --> 0:21:13.845 kids that he was their dad. 0:21:14.485 --> 0:21:17.325 He provided for them financially for his entire life, but. 0:21:17.325 --> 0:21:22.805 On their birth certificates their father was listed as unknown. Instead, 0:21:22.965 --> 0:21:25.365 he would show up to their house two or three 0:21:25.365 --> 0:21:30.005 times a year under the pseudonym CAREW. Kent and be like, yeah, 0:21:30.085 --> 0:21:32.845 I'm just your mom's good friend, no more than that. 0:21:33.445 --> 0:21:35.605 And their mom was like, yeah, he's a famous writer, 0:21:36.005 --> 0:21:37.645 so don't tell any when he comes to visit. 0:21:37.845 --> 0:21:42.205 Just keep it on the DL. Also, his alias Carole 0:21:42.325 --> 0:21:44.925 Kent similar to Clark Kent. Is it not? 0:21:46.005 --> 0:21:49.645 And isn't that just like egotistical dumbass Lendberg to give 0:21:49.725 --> 0:21:55.125 himself the alias of Superman, and Lenberg seemed happy about 0:21:55.205 --> 0:21:57.765 having these kids outside of his marriage. He wrote to 0:21:57.805 --> 0:22:00.565 Brigitte when he got the news of her first pregnancy. 0:22:00.725 --> 0:22:03.765 He said, the news you send is wonderful and I 0:22:03.805 --> 0:22:06.805 am tremendously happy about it. I just wish I could 0:22:06.845 --> 0:22:09.765 be there with you now. Still there are bound to 0:22:09.805 --> 0:22:13.605 be hurt feelings, as there have been with the other lovers. 0:22:15.005 --> 0:22:21.205 The other lovers, what other lovers? Well, Brigitte's three kids 0:22:21.205 --> 0:22:24.445 weren't his only children across the Atlantic. He had two 0:22:24.445 --> 0:22:29.485 more sons. He had these children with a woman named Marietta, 0:22:29.925 --> 0:22:33.325 and who was Marietta Well, she was the sister of 0:22:33.445 --> 0:22:40.365 Brigitte Hessheimer. Yikes, But that's not all. He also had 0:22:40.405 --> 0:22:44.525 another son and daughter with his secretary, Veleska, who also 0:22:44.565 --> 0:22:47.765 lived in Germany. And Veleska might have been the one 0:22:47.765 --> 0:22:52.485 who had introduced Charles Lindberg to the sisters. So he 0:22:52.685 --> 0:22:56.845 at least had seven German children from three different women. 0:22:57.845 --> 0:23:01.485 And despite having that many relations in Germany, Charles Lindberg 0:23:01.565 --> 0:23:05.245 himself never learned German. He's like, why would I need 0:23:05.245 --> 0:23:07.405 to do that. I'm Charles Lindberg. They can just speak English. 0:23:09.245 --> 0:23:12.525 So the three women also knew about his other relationships 0:23:12.525 --> 0:23:14.805 in Germany and tolerated it. 0:23:15.125 --> 0:23:15.685 I guess. 0:23:16.125 --> 0:23:17.965 I mean, I'd be totally gross down if I had 0:23:18.045 --> 0:23:19.965 kids with a dude that my sister had kids with. 0:23:20.125 --> 0:23:23.005 But who am I to judge? One time I hooked 0:23:23.045 --> 0:23:25.565 up with a ska musician, which is perhaps even worse. 0:23:28.845 --> 0:23:31.045 So yeah, Charles would visit a few times a year 0:23:31.205 --> 0:23:36.125 and go on his mistress tour of Germany. Writer Rudolph 0:23:36.165 --> 0:23:39.125 Schruck wrote a book about these affairs, and he said 0:23:39.805 --> 0:23:43.245 Lindberg would land in Frankfurt, drive south and visit Marietta, 0:23:43.445 --> 0:23:47.125 then Vilesca, and then continue on to Munich and visit 0:23:47.125 --> 0:23:55.045 Brigitte before returning to Frankfurt. He did this for fourteen years. 0:23:56.765 --> 0:23:59.645 The only thing that stopped these affairs was Charles Lindberg's 0:23:59.685 --> 0:24:03.045 death in nineteen seventy four, and a few days before 0:24:03.085 --> 0:24:05.205 he died, he wrote a letter to Brigitte from a 0:24:05.245 --> 0:24:09.085 ha spittle. He said, dear Brigitte, my strength is leaving 0:24:09.125 --> 0:24:12.325 me every day. It is very difficult just to write. 0:24:12.365 --> 0:24:14.525 All I can send to you and the children is 0:24:14.565 --> 0:24:19.765 my love. After Brigitte's kids confronted her about their discovery 0:24:19.765 --> 0:24:22.765 that Charles Lindbergh was their father, she asked them not 0:24:22.845 --> 0:24:26.125 to reveal anything until after her death, so they waited. 0:24:27.045 --> 0:24:28.925 She died in two thousand and one, which was the 0:24:28.965 --> 0:24:32.525 same year as Anne Lindberg's death, and that year in 0:24:32.525 --> 0:24:35.805 two thousand and one, the Hessheimer's approached the Lindbergh children 0:24:35.925 --> 0:24:39.365 before going public, and the Lindberg kids they had no 0:24:39.485 --> 0:24:42.605 idea that these affairs took place, and they also believed 0:24:42.605 --> 0:24:45.045 that Anne also had no clue about what was going on. 0:24:46.725 --> 0:24:50.725 After that, the Hesheimer's siblings parentage was confirmed with DNA testing, 0:24:51.605 --> 0:24:53.885 but the four other kids in Germany didn't want to 0:24:53.925 --> 0:24:56.645 come forward and their mothers also didn't want to talk 0:24:56.685 --> 0:25:01.045 about it. The Hesheimer siblings collaborated on a book with 0:25:01.085 --> 0:25:03.965 that writer Rudolph Schrock, and it came out in two 0:25:03.965 --> 0:25:06.765 thousand and five and talked about the whole thing. It 0:25:06.765 --> 0:25:09.925 included some of the letters, but it's a huge bummer 0:25:09.965 --> 0:25:12.805 because it's written in German, and much like Lindburg, I 0:25:12.845 --> 0:25:16.085 also don't know German, and the book hasn't been translated 0:25:16.125 --> 0:25:18.645 into English, which sucks because I want. 0:25:18.485 --> 0:25:21.045 All the hot goss. I guess I have to learn German, 0:25:21.325 --> 0:25:24.485 fly to Germany find the book. I don't know. 0:25:24.605 --> 0:25:32.045 Is it being suppressed by the lindberghs IDK. But for 0:25:32.085 --> 0:25:36.565 the Lindbergh kids in America, can you freaking imagine your 0:25:36.605 --> 0:25:39.885 mom just died and then you discovered your dad had 0:25:39.925 --> 0:25:43.765 a secret family, and it was like, JK, it's actually 0:25:43.845 --> 0:25:49.765 three secret families. That's insane, that's lunacy, especially after your 0:25:49.845 --> 0:25:53.525 dad was such a control freak your whole life. It's like, oh, 0:25:53.565 --> 0:25:55.445