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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Friday. Let's cap the

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Speaker 1: week with.

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Speaker 3: A strong one. One hour from now.

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Speaker 1: We have had a very very strong year in the

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Speaker 1: blazing five fifty eight percent. Guys in the desert, they'll

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Speaker 1: be watching in one hour.

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Speaker 4: Jmac.

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Speaker 1: It's inevitable when a young quarterback flourishes, everybody's like, well,

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Speaker 1: is it the coach or.

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Speaker 3: Is it the quarterback?

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Speaker 1: We always got to give everybody credit. We've got to

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Speaker 1: figure out who gets the credit. So that's all I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing this morning. Well it is it Mike Vrable or

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Speaker 1: is it Drake May? And this is an easy one, folks.

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Speaker 1: All you have to do is look at the Washington commanders.

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Speaker 1: Why are they so bad this year? Because Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 1: got hurt, did Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury forget how

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Speaker 1: to coach. No, Jayden Daniels is hurt. The team stinks

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Speaker 1: in college football at seventy thirty, coach matters more than quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's head coach, GM and therapist in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Flip it.

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Speaker 1: Look at Mike Tomlin when he had prime Big Ben

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Speaker 1: super Bowls, old Big Ben Playoffs, but couldn't be good

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Speaker 1: teams now yikes. So the colt Shane Steichen was he

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Speaker 1: a bum last year? No? The upgraded at quarterback to

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones Andy Reid's entire career. He's a very good

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Speaker 1: coach now he's a legend. Why he gets smarter? Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at last night. Eighty percent of the NFL

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Speaker 1: winning games comes down to your quarterback making five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven throws or decisions, high level execution that wins games.

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Speaker 1: Mike Frable's not winning that game last night with Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields as his quarterback because it was a reasonably close game.

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Speaker 1: But Drake may made six or seven decisions and throws

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Speaker 1: that are incredibly high level. That kid is so good

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Speaker 1: on first down it's amazing. He had a jump pass,

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Speaker 1: couple sideline throws. That's the difference. I mean, Mike Vrabel

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Speaker 1: certainly elevates him. Mike Frable made Ryan Tannehill a number

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Speaker 1: one seed. Remember that in Tennessee. Who did Frabel get

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Speaker 1: beat by that year in the playoffs at home as

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Speaker 1: a favorite, Zach Taylor. That's not who beat him. Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow beat him with a much worse roster. And Frabel

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Speaker 1: knows that. I mean, and Vrabel, like Belichick, understands that

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Speaker 1: a lot of times, just give it to the coordinator

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Speaker 1: in the quarterback. It's a little harder to do when

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Speaker 1: Drake May's young, but I mean Belichick largely, Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels ran the offense. They were on the

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Speaker 1: phone constantly. So Josh McDaniel's probably the best offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: in the league last decade. I guarantee you he and

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Speaker 1: Drake May are running most of the offense. And that's

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Speaker 1: not a knock I mean, but I mean, you watch

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Speaker 1: the Jets offense, it looks like a service academy. They

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Speaker 1: run on third and eight. That's like the Jurassic. That's awful.

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Speaker 1: But I watched that game last night. There's another one

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Speaker 1: of his throws right there. He just made about six

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Speaker 1: or seven big plays in a reasonably close game, there's

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Speaker 1: another one, you know, back of the linebacker, in front

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Speaker 1: of the safety. That's what the kid does. And you know, again,

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Speaker 1: I am not saying that Reed doesn't deserve credit for

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Speaker 1: Mahomes In college, Mark Few is Gonzaga basketball. Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: was Bama football. They recruit, they develop, they're the therapist,

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Speaker 1: they're the GM, they work the cap, they do the

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Speaker 1: internationals stuff. They make every decision. That's not the way

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Speaker 1: it works. Rabel doesn't want to make every decision. He's

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Speaker 1: trying to build a culture. You see this thing he

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Speaker 3: That's culture building.

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Speaker 1: He is a player's coach and he wants to You

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Speaker 1: can't do everything.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that coach the offense, the defense, do

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Speaker 1: That's what Belichick tried to do. Old Belichick tried to

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Speaker 1: do that. He took over personnel. He was terrible at it.

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Speaker 1: He was a great culture builder and a great defensive coach.

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Speaker 1: So Rabel's absolutely a huge part of this. But in

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Speaker 1: the NFL it's always felt like to me, it's sixty

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Speaker 1: and that is a potential MVP.

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Speaker 3: Drake May.

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Speaker 5: Drake, how's it feel to get those MVP chants?

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Speaker 3: To just have people recognize the way you're playing right now?

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Speaker 6: Maybe in a Travion tonight him he scored three touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: So no, I think it's your friends. You know, been

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Speaker 6: great with you know mysas I got here, so I

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Speaker 6: embracing me, just trying to embrace the city and you'll

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Speaker 6: give these fans to this team and you know, just

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing about Drake May. He's unbelievable on

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Speaker 1: first down. He completed seventy eight percent of its slows

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Speaker 1: on first down last night he was nine for eleven.

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Speaker 1: That is the highest completion percentage on first down since

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Speaker 1: they've tracked it. And that they're always ahead of the chains.

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Speaker 1: What did Belichick say about Brady? When they asked Belichick

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Speaker 1: about Brady his greatest thing, he didn't say his arm

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Speaker 1: or you know what he said. He didn't go backwards. No,

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Speaker 1: pre staff penalties, didn't take a lot of sacks. We

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Speaker 1: always had second and five, second and four, second and six.

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Speaker 1: I mean justin fields, you don't know what you get

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Speaker 1: by second down. With Drake May, you're ahead of the chains.

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Speaker 1: That opens up the playbook for Josh McDaniels. It opens

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Speaker 1: up the play book the culture for Mike Vrable. So

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Speaker 1: so much of what Drake May does is what Brady does.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a more athletic version of Brady, and he's

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Speaker 1: not right now pre snap as good as Brady. But

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Speaker 1: Brady was so good on first down you were never

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Speaker 1: playing behind the sticks. That's exactly what Drake May does.

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Speaker 1: It's a gift. He's great at it. You know. I

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Speaker 1: at Denver. They are a favorite, but they're at Denver.

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Speaker 1: And I made a bold proclamation before the year. I

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Speaker 1: said the dynasty's over. I did not say Kansas City

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and they're gonna win another Super Bowl. Andy

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Speaker 1: going to the AFC Championship every year, going to the Super.

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Speaker 3: Bowl every year. That's done, and they'll be good.

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Speaker 1: There'll be a playoff team because you're not going to

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Speaker 1: get four more trips to the Super Bowl in five years.

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Speaker 1: And if they lose to Denver, they're five and five, okay,

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Speaker 1: The reason I made this proclamation was, Mahomes is really expensive,

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones and Kelsey are really old. It gets harder,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid sixty seven. But mostly I said Jim Harbaum,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton in division, You're not gonna win this thing

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Speaker 1: One of the great advantages Brady had very early, I

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Speaker 1: think in his career. Peyton Manning was in the AFC

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Speaker 1: they re aligned the divisions. So Tom just got buys

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Speaker 1: and Tom got home playoff game. Tom struggled to the

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Speaker 1: play in the snow, but Tom was in Foxboro.

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Speaker 3: Tom was at home.

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Speaker 1: Tom was comfortable Tom got an extra week of prep,

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Speaker 1: he got the buy. Those days are over for Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting that number one seed anymore. Not with

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Speaker 1: Not with Harbaugh Herbert in the building. You're not getting

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Speaker 1: that number one seat. And so I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: So much of Saban's run was the incompetency of the

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Speaker 1: rest of the SEC. So much of Lebron's dominance in

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Speaker 1: It's very, very hard once Kirby Smart Texas get into

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Speaker 1: the SEC and Nick Saban's like, get me out of here.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer dominated the SEC, then Nick Saban arrived, Right,

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Speaker 1: It's hard to be a dominant golfer skier team when

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Speaker 1: you got an All timer breathing down your neck. And

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Speaker 1: so Sean Payton and Jim Harbar arguably the second and

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Speaker 1: third best coach in the league, and Andy maybe the first.

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Speaker 1: It's just a natural progression. Mahomes is getting older and

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Speaker 1: he's a little more expensive, and then you can't miss

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Speaker 1: on his many draft picks, and every good GM misses

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Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to go buy players. When

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Speaker 1: the I think the game is it is not in

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Speaker 1: my blazing five. I said, you know, if it was

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Speaker 7: I think you understand this game is important. I think

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Speaker 7: divisional game, and they're always important, but with them having

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Speaker 7: think guys understand that if you lose this game, it's

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Speaker 7: that be like four games ahead of us, it'd be

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Speaker 7: it'd be tough to go back and get that one.

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Speaker 7: But all you can do is just handle this week

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Speaker 7: and that's why you can really worry about And we

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Speaker 7: still play a lot of great football teams, but like

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Speaker 7: I said, I feel like if we play our best,

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Speaker 7: we can beat anybody.

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Speaker 1: So I said when I said the dynasty's over. The

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Speaker 1: reason I said that also is look at last year.

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Speaker 1: They were eleven to zero oh in one possession games.

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Speaker 1: That was impressive. But what wasn't they were in eleven

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Speaker 1: one possession games. Oh, that's because Jim Harbaugh arrived in

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Speaker 1: the division and Sean Payton was in year two and

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Speaker 1: are non competitive, They're a mess. But I said before,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's ever been a division in football

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Speaker 1: is Sean Payton. That's as good as coaching gets. I

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Speaker 1: mean the Rams, you think, yeah, they should win their

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Speaker 1: division every year. Well, Kyle Shannan's in division and now

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's in division, so it matters, it really does.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a great game. I like

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, but I don't love them for the obvious reasons.

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Speaker 1: is really good, really good. So j Mac blazing five

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Speaker 1: one hour from now the best game of the year probably,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it doesn't work out that way. But Seattle

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Speaker 2: Fired Up, It's Collins Blazon, fuck Buccaneers and Bills.

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Speaker 1: I like Buffalo at Home minus five and a half

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Speaker 4: Three and cover Seahawks and Rams.

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Speaker 1: I like Philadelphia. They're a step up team. They're four

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Speaker 3: I think they're using now another kicker.

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Speaker 2: and Nooniere not a im Pacific And.

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Speaker 1: With that, we're lucky years ago Portnoy when he was

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Speaker 1: with Portnoy, Big Cat and Brandon Walker, and those guys

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Speaker 1: are that sounds like a mixer that you get in

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Speaker 1: trouble with the big personalities. So you're A. You grew

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Speaker 1: to I love Bama this year and it's a little

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Speaker 8: I'm wearing maroon and white kicks today, Colin, I knew

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Speaker 8: what you were.

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Speaker 5: Going to come with. No and I.

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Speaker 8: At the end of the day, the only teams they

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Speaker 8: And I hear you about the coaches getting fired. A

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Speaker 5: He buys into the culture.

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Speaker 8: Tommy Moffatt, the strength, strength and conditioning coordinator, came from LSU.

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Speaker 8: He's got this team playing tough and they just don't

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Speaker 8: look like the A and M eight and four. So

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Speaker 8: we've made fun of forever whole life. Yes, I mean

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Speaker 8: and I have to defend that every year, and then

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, is this going to happen again?

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Speaker 8: This team is playing differently, and just when you look

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Speaker 8: for real. And I understand where you're coming from. Alabama.

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Speaker 8: They're not the same team that lost support of State,

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Speaker 8: note gets that non conference win, so you have to

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Speaker 5: They're nine to zero in the middle of November. I

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Bama fan. I don't think Ty Simpson's

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Speaker 1: quite as people project. I think he's a good kid.

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Speaker 1: He sat for three years, was a backup, didn't do much.

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Speaker 1: The world's changed. Nil Texas has the most money Texas

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Speaker 1: That's the reality is that a lot of these SEC

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Speaker 3: It's a different ballgame.

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Speaker 1: So Obama is not what they were with saving It's

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Speaker 8: Agree with you that Ty Simpson he has looked unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: They don't run it.

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Speaker 8: And that never happens with Nick Saban, and that to

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Speaker 1: So you never asked anybody their age are obviously very young,

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Speaker 3: And that producers ignore me at every request.

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Speaker 1: So Lane Kiffin is kind of cool and he's got

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Speaker 8: well with these young players, and you see his connection

435
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Speaker 8: with Jackson Dart, and he's cool and he's the best

436
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Speaker 8: at social media trolling and these guys love that, and

437
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Speaker 8: you know that anything that comes out of his mouth,

438
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Speaker 8: whether it's in the media or it's on social media,

439
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Speaker 8: is going to get clicks. And I think that really

440
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Speaker 8: fits in recruiting and for you know, you look at

441
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Speaker 8: all the jobs that are open, and he's going to

442
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Speaker 8: coach five teams next year. It seems like he's just

443
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Speaker 8: going to be coaching everywhere. But right now, what he's

444
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Speaker 8: building at Ole Miss, he's making Ole Miss a destination

445
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Speaker 8: that you know, ten fifteen years ago, these kids wouldn't

446
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Speaker 8: have necessarily wanted to go, and he seems like he

447
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Speaker 8: connects to that level.

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Speaker 5: So it would be dumb to sit and say.

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Speaker 8: He's not considering the NFL, especially the Giants with Jackson

450
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Speaker 8: Dart there.

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Speaker 5: But I think he's a college coach.

452
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Speaker 8: I think he fits the culture, and he's young, and

453
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Speaker 8: he's cool and he's happy there he's got young kids.

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Speaker 8: If I was him, I would stay in college.

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Speaker 1: But you know, no, I think it's a really good point.

456
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Speaker 1: I think fit in life matters. And I think he's

457
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Speaker 1: just snarky enough that he would offend an owner or

458
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Speaker 1: a GM. Yeah, he's just inappropriate enough on social media,

459
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Speaker 1: like you guys are a lot that it's work for a.

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Speaker 5: Company that's always inappropriate. That's what we do.

461
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Speaker 1: So tomorrow you're at Wrigley, it's Michigan and it's Northwestern.

462
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Speaker 1: I think Underwood's unbelievable. I think he's Oh my god,

463
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Speaker 1: he's just an unbelievable talent. Marsh is one of the receivers.

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Speaker 1: I like, what do you make? You know Dave loves

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Speaker 1: his Michigan. Do you think deep down in his heart

466
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Speaker 1: he thinks this hardball replacements the guy because you know

467
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Speaker 1: you when you hire the guy on the staff, it goes. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I understand why you do it. Player like

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Speaker 1: him as loyalty as the brand. Where are you with Michigan?

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Speaker 1: What does Dave say privately about Michigan?

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Speaker 8: Well, Dave is as authentic as you can get. You

472
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Speaker 8: know that you've been around him. He believes truly that

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Speaker 8: Michigan's going to be Ohio State this year, and he's

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Speaker 8: going to believe it. Even if he doesn't believe it,

475
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Speaker 8: he's going to say it. I think that one thing

476
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Speaker 8: with this team, they're also young.

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Speaker 5: You know, you talk about just the way that they.

478
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Speaker 8: Had the turnover, and it wasn't just losing coach Harbaugh.

479
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Speaker 8: It was just a lot of guys leaving, and just

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Speaker 8: so the fact that they're still even in the mix,

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Speaker 8: they're still you know, in the you know, the lower

482
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Speaker 8: level conversation of being able to get in the playoff.

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Speaker 8: They would have to be Ohio State on Thanksgiving, obviously.

484
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Speaker 8: But I think that this is a great spot for

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Speaker 8: Michigan to be in. And I see where the nil

486
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Speaker 8: money and that's where Dave really loves to get involved,

487
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Speaker 8: right because you know he's got the big money coming in.

488
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Speaker 8: But I mean, if you're a Michigan fan right now,

489
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Speaker 8: you shouldn't be thinking poorly of this team.

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Speaker 5: They're young kids and Bryce looks great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, he's a pretty phenomenal guy. So when

492
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Speaker 1: you grow up in Texas and now you live in

493
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Speaker 1: New York and you hang out in Chicago and all

494
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Speaker 1: this stuff, how do you view everybody said the Pac

495
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Speaker 1: twelve going to the Big they won't be able to

496
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Speaker 1: handle the weather. My take was they'll bring all the quarterbacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean even Tom Brady played at Michigan, He's fron California,

498
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Speaker 1: Andrew Locke, Aaron Rodgers. The quality of quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten now, Jayden Mayava, Dante More, even that nico

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Speaker 1: I Mahliava's like he's got the skills. So I think

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Speaker 1: the West Coast teams have brought kind of a smarter

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Speaker 1: and more sophisticated quarterback driven offense. But how does somebody

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Speaker 1: like you that grows up in Texas and Big Ten country?

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Speaker 3: How do you view sc? Do you see him as soft?

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Speaker 3: How do you view that? Lile sc? Lincoln Riley thing?

506
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Speaker 5: So I love Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 8: I liked him when he was at Oklahoma, so I

508
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Speaker 8: thought it was a great hire. And they actually used

509
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Speaker 8: to make fun of me at barstool. They were like,

510
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Speaker 8: do you have like a crush on him or something?

511
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Speaker 8: Why are you always so high him? It's like he's

512
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Speaker 8: an offensive mind that he just needs to find somebody

513
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Speaker 8: to help him with his defense, and he's going to

514
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Speaker 8: get this team right. I've always thought with USC and

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Speaker 8: UCLA and Oregon, it's like they're kind of like the

516
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Speaker 8: sexy school, but they're not going to be able to

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Speaker 8: handle it in the s or the big ten week

518
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Speaker 8: in and week out. We're seeing that's not necessarily true.

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Speaker 8: We saw what Oregon did last year. We saw what

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Speaker 8: Dan Lanning is built. You're seeing, you know, USC is

521
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Speaker 8: very clearly in the hunt.

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Speaker 3: This is good at home. USC is good at home, and.

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Speaker 8: I just truly believe that, you know, you see these

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Speaker 8: different fits. I didn't like that the PAC twelve fell

525
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Speaker 8: apart because right before it fell apart, you had a

526
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Speaker 8: million quarterbacks in those lie why.

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Speaker 1: The best Pac twelve season in the history of the

528
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Speaker 1: PAC twelve the last year they had seven good teams and.

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Speaker 5: We're like having a funeral for it. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: And so to look at that, and I think the

531
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Speaker 8: bigger thing was not even necessarily the weather.

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Speaker 5: It's the travel.

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Speaker 8: I mean West Coast teams having you all the way

534
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Speaker 8: the East Coast and back and forth, like it takes

535
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Speaker 8: away the regionality of college football which I grew up.

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Speaker 3: And you lose two or three hours.

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Speaker 8: Yes, of course, and like time, you know, as you

538
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Speaker 8: get older, and I mean, you know, I know you

539
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Speaker 8: said I'm young.

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Speaker 5: I'm not that young.

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Speaker 8: Time really does matter when it comes to and these

542
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Speaker 8: guys are so used to rigid schedules.

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Speaker 5: So but I do like seeing the quarterback play. It's

544
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Speaker 5: the Big ten. Used to be, it's like you're gonna

545
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Speaker 5: run the rock.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're gonna have these great, big offensive linemen

547
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Speaker 8: and it's going to be, you know, a nine to

548
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Speaker 8: six game. Now you're seeing guys like Dante More and

549
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Speaker 8: you're seeing just these teams have these offenses that come

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Speaker 8: from the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 5: That's exciting.

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Speaker 8: Now if they played you know, a weekend and week

553
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Speaker 8: out every single year, it'll start to even out for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The so you barstools interesting, So I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: I've met Big Cat and Brand and you and Port

557
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Speaker 1: and I have met him.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's.

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Speaker 1: A wild a lot of juice, a lot of energy,

560
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Speaker 1: and you've really you feel like part of the team.

561
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Speaker 1: But it is I mean when it first started, it

562
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Speaker 1: was like it.

563
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Speaker 3: Was a boys club.

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Speaker 1: It was a frat and it was I mean when

565
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Speaker 1: I that's what it was, and then you looked it

566
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Speaker 1: you or I remember seeing you in Boston and then

567
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Speaker 1: you moved to barstool.

568
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Speaker 3: What was your first week at barstool?

569
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Speaker 8: Like, oh my god, it was so crazy because I

570
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 8: was used to Network TV doing three hours of Network TV, like,

571
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Speaker 8: you know, every single night, and then I walk in

572
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 8: and it was like right before March madness, and they're

573
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Speaker 8: all gambling, and I was just like, what's going on.

574
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Speaker 8: We don't have production meetings, we don't have like I

575
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Speaker 8: don't have a B block.

576
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Speaker 5: What are we talking about?

577
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Speaker 8: But it was really cool because I grew up with

578
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 8: you know, a lot of guy friends loving college football,

579
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Speaker 8: and it was you know, you get to to watch

580
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Speaker 8: TV and you talk about the x's and o's and

581
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Speaker 8: you hear the ins and outs of what's going on,

582
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Speaker 8: and then you go hang out with your friends and

583
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Speaker 8: you're sitting down, for the lack of better terms, on

584
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 8: a barstool talking about these games.

585
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Speaker 5: And that's what that's like.

586
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 8: And that's what what Dave is really built well, is

587
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 8: it's what she would talk about your you know, your

588
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 8: friends with watching a game, but to be the only

589
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Speaker 8: woman they're doing at least then we have other women

590
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Speaker 8: in content their phenomenal like.

591
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Speaker 3: Their first you were a big rock star for them.

592
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 8: Well, thank you, especially in sports, like you know, we've

593
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 8: had pop culture chicks in the office.

594
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Speaker 5: Was great, but it's it's a different world. But I

595
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 5: love it. And I love that we've now partnered with

596
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Speaker 5: you guys because I.

597
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Speaker 3: Get both right of TV and then yeah.

598
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 8: A little bit of x's and o's and like we

599
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 8: have to be professional, and then we get to go

600
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 8: yell at each other and tell each other that we're stupid.

601
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Speaker 8: So you know, it's it's a great it's a great mix.

602
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Speaker 8: But no, I love working there and Dave's as authentic

603
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Speaker 8: as they get.

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Speaker 5: So lucky.

605
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, this is a pain in the butt for

606
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Speaker 1: your schedule, so I appreciate you doing this.

607
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Speaker 8: Please, I'm honored and be here anytime you want.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's just god, it's tried pulling teeth getting

609
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: these guys to show up Monday through Friday.

610
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Speaker 5: They're just throwing you guys under the bus.

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Speaker 3: They deserve it.

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Speaker 1: Casey Smith, congrats and your success. I'd love to have

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Speaker 1: be on here.