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Speaker 1: the value of community is really coming full circle. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to drive it from Des Moines to Omaha.

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Speaker 2: I stay off of Interstate eighty system because when the

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's got to look pretty cool to a

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of Ronanania, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: now pee running and welcome listeners. Wanna men in the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor at your service, of course, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to dive right into it. We've got a big hour

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Speaker 1: this hour, and we're gonna be talking to Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: to start. Ben is with Repairify And when I heard

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Speaker 1: quite sure what they did and who they were. Ben

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Speaker 1: auto industry. So let's get right to it. Ben Johnson, Repairrify.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, hey man, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me on ron A pleasure. Let's just dive right

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Speaker 1: into it. Ben, what is Repairrify? Because I've got to

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Speaker 1: admit I've heard of them, but you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's like skimming the headlines. You see so much information

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Speaker 1: What exactly are you doing right?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: You know, so it's an interesting story. So you probably

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Speaker 4: all know they're you know, a little behind the mechanical side.

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Speaker 4: As far as doing that kind of work, the insurance

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Speaker 4: A lot of them don't have a scan tool and

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Speaker 4: So this was a perfect fit to start off this uh,

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Speaker 4: And then they they can actually reprogram the vehicle remotely

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Speaker 4: So you will be I mean, I'm counting on you

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Speaker 1: So Repairrify if I let's just clarify. Let's let's clarify Repairrify.

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Speaker 1: If we can ben it's it's if I'm a body

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Speaker 4: Exactly if you need during that process, if you need

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Speaker 1: All right, So, but I'm a mechanical shop. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: How does that help me? What is reparify going to

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Speaker 4: Right? So that's a great question, and we will be

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Speaker 4: evolving some of these features over time. But this short answer,

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Speaker 1: And that does in all fairness, Ben, that does happen.

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Speaker 1: You plug into program power Windows and you may not

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. Gotcha. So you know you can scan for me

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Speaker 1: So all right, so you're you're going to do it

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Speaker 1: You know, a repair shop may start eight o'clock in

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Speaker 1: You know, how does it work? How do I hook

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of different things ron So it depends

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Speaker 4: They're they're on with you and they're able to process

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Speaker 1: So there's also a tech line, yes side of this too,

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Speaker 4: A little careful there, ron. You know we are not

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Speaker 4: But I can assure you this. The guy on the

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Speaker 4: He can get the tool where you need it to go,

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Speaker 1: Yet, right, not yet yet. We're gonna we're gonna walk

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Speaker 1: You know, is the data when he when he makes

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Speaker 1: Or is the information displayed on him and he sends

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Speaker 4: The information is displayed to him on his Oe scan tool,

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Speaker 3: Ron.

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Speaker 4: The VCI is where the magic happens. When you actually

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds interesting, Ben. You know what, it's very

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has car

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Speaker 1: Right, And and that's not a reflection on repairify. That's

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Speaker 1: You know, we're at the point now where we scan

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, there's a couple of ways you can do that. Ron.

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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you, Ben, one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: Then that just kills productivity. Now you've got to find

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Speaker 4: We actually have glass people using our product. That's kind

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Speaker 4: because it's not so much that we couldn't do it.

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Speaker 4: all above board, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well, and for everybody else's benefit. What Ben's

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Speaker 4: Oh, repurify dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's just keep watching that pike.

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Speaker 4: Because we'll be changing in here in the next few months.

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Speaker 1: Perfect and keep your dial tuned here because we're going

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time today. Ben Jonson for Parify, and

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Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Don't go on. Welcome

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Speaker 1: out there in Arizona. I guess it is Dan. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. It's Arizona, correct, is where

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Speaker 5: That is correct? And yes, pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, and we appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 1: You know your posts started out it's the first paragraph.

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Speaker 5: So when we first started, we actually were an engine

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Speaker 5: And so but we've been building engines in the house now,

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Speaker 5: specifically mostly AMC engines for over twenty years, and we're

436
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Speaker 5: encountering an inability to have timely machine shop work done

437
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Speaker 5: so that we can get engines done on a timely basis.

438
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Speaker 5: Imagine coming and asking us to build your engine and

439
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Speaker 5: I tell you I probably can't have it done for

440
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Speaker 5: you for two years.

441
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Speaker 2: Wow?

442
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Speaker 1: Now is that is that a you know, you don't

443
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Speaker 1: have the manpower, you don't have the material, you both

444
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Speaker 1: the floor space. You know what exactly creates that two

445
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: year backlog? It just pure demand because there's nobody else.

446
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we're a specialty engine builder and we build

447
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Speaker 5: engines for people all over the America, even some in Mexico,

448
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 5: a couple over in Europe. And so we have the inventory,

449
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 5: we have the parts we need because we've been doing

450
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Speaker 5: this for a long time, but we can't find I've

451
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Speaker 5: been advertising now for months to have a new engine builder,

452
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Speaker 5: and that new engine builder challenge is significant, and I'm

453
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Speaker 5: unable to find anybody do that. But more importantly, I

454
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Speaker 5: can have stuff at a machine shop for four or

455
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Speaker 5: five months before I get it back. I had one

456
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Speaker 5: block at a machine shop for a year and I

457
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Speaker 5: had to hound them to get it back, and when

458
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Speaker 5: I got back it was ruined.

459
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Speaker 1: Wow. And these are not engine components and parts that

460
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Speaker 1: are easily replaced, correct, I mean to ruin a factory

461
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Speaker 1: block that was probably from a numbers matching something right.

462
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Speaker 5: So thankfully AMCs are date code correct, So as long

463
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Speaker 5: as you get a block with the same date, you

464
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Speaker 5: can technically be date code correct. But yeah, nobody else,

465
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 5: nobody makes them. You either it becomes a boat anchor

466
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Speaker 5: or a pay very big paper way oracles to the scrapyard.

467
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Speaker 1: So you know, so as it stands right now, you

468
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Speaker 1: are not going to take on any separate engine work.

469
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Speaker 1: It's got to be the whole car or nothing. And

470
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Speaker 1: then how long do you foresee that If somebody brings

471
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Speaker 1: you a whole car and says, Dan, I want you

472
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Speaker 1: to do a whole car at at your azy amc

473
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Speaker 1: restoration shop, you know how long before you get to

474
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Speaker 1: the next car. You know how big of a backlog

475
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Speaker 1: is there to do cars?

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Speaker 5: We have roughly a two year backlog. People are sending

477
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Speaker 5: in sizeable deposits to get a space in our queue,

478
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Speaker 5: and I tell them up front that it might be

479
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Speaker 5: as long as two years. Sometimes depending on people's individual circumstances,

480
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Speaker 5: it could be six months when they send the car,

481
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Speaker 5: and depending on what is needed. But as you probably

482
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Speaker 5: know from the industry, it's a very tedious and time

483
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Speaker 5: consuming process to restore a car because there's no way

484
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Speaker 5: for you to start on it and not do anything

485
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Speaker 5: else until you finish it. So you're kind of juggling

486
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Speaker 5: two or three or four restorations at the same time.

487
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Speaker 5: And then we for cash flow perpses, we bring in

488
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Speaker 5: short term repairs so that you know you can go

489
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Speaker 5: months on a restoration and not make any progress. You're

490
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Speaker 5: not charging the custom or anything until you make progress. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 5: we could could. It could be up to a year

492
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Speaker 5: and a half before your cargets in, and it could

493
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Speaker 5: be another year year and a half before you get

494
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Speaker 5: it back.

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Speaker 1: So are you strictly doing AMC's American Motors Cars or

496
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Speaker 1: do you do other muscle cars, hot rods, et cetera.

497
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Speaker 5: So I like to say that AMC could stand for

498
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Speaker 5: American Muscle Car or stands for American Motors Cars.

499
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Speaker 4: So we do.

500
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Speaker 5: We are specialized in the AMCs because we are probably

501
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Speaker 5: one of the places that knows them the best. And

502
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Speaker 5: that's out of my own passion because I bought a

503
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Speaker 5: nineteen sixty at AMX when I was eighteen years old,

504
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Speaker 5: and within eighteen month I had the fastest car around.

505
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Speaker 4: So I grew to like them.

506
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Speaker 5: And so we have a Pontiac Firebird four hundred and

507
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Speaker 5: there that we built a four to sixty eight Stroker

508
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Speaker 5: for and upgraded to a TKX five speed. We have

509
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Speaker 5: a really cool nineteen seventy five Osmobile four fourteen that

510
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Speaker 5: we're just finishing up now. And we've done corvettes and

511
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Speaker 5: so we do other cars, but we're known for our

512
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Speaker 5: amc restorations.

513
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Speaker 1: So what's the answer. Is there an answer? Or let

514
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Speaker 1: me ask the question this way. Exactly where in Arizona

515
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Speaker 1: are you? Can you tell us yes?

516
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Speaker 5: So we're just a little bit west of Phoenix. So

517
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Speaker 5: when people come in to see if they fly into

518
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Speaker 5: Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport jumping an uber and they're at

519
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Speaker 5: our place in twenty a twenty five minutes, All right,

520
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Speaker 5: Is there a little town called Peoria?

521
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Speaker 1: Are there any other machine shops in and around Peoria?

522
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Speaker 1: Or are you basically the machine shop?

523
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Speaker 5: So we're not actually a machine shop. That's the one

524
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 5: function that we actually use third parties for, gotcha and so,

525
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: but that's only for things like grinding crankshafts, which is

526
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Speaker 5: a very dirty and cumbersome job, boring cylinder blocks, aligne

527
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Speaker 5: honing the main journals, decking the top of the block

528
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Speaker 5: for a good cylinder head seal. So those are the

529
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Speaker 5: kind of things we outsourced, but we do all the rest.

530
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Speaker 5: We balance them blueprint in house. Every engine. We require

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Speaker 5: if we're going to build you an engine, that we

532
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 5: blueprint it, and that way we give you a basically

533
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: and unconditional warranty unless it comes in and you've got

534
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 5: a bunch of vent valves because you overhepped the heck

535
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Speaker 5: out of it and you had pistons and valves whacking

536
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 5: each other. Right, So there are other places to go.

537
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Speaker 5: But the challenge is there's so few of them left that,

538
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: as I said earlier, you could have an engine block

539
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 5: somewhere for six months.

540
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Speaker 1: What's the you know, And I'm just trying to paint

541
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Speaker 1: a picture of the area, right is you know here

542
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Speaker 1: in North Jersey, I'll say it like this here in

543
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Speaker 1: New Jersey. In North Jersey, if we tell somebody you

544
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: need four tires and a set of brakes, it's not

545
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Speaker 1: uncommon for them to say, I'll just go buy a

546
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Speaker 1: new car. Is is that Peoria? Is that Arizona?

547
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Speaker 5: So we specialize in you know, thirty, probably forty to

548
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 5: sixty year old cars, right and so that's a different

549
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 5: client tell than what you're describing. These are people who

550
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Speaker 5: always wanted this car their whole life, and they realizing

551
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: COVID caused this. They're realizing they're getting on in years

552
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: and they better get to it or they might not

553
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 5: be around to do what they always want to do.

554
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 5: Or had one guy whose dad bought this car brand new.

555
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 5: He remembered driving it around in nineteen seventy one Javelin AMX,

556
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: remember driving it around in and as a child, his

557
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 5: dad got dementia. It brings tears in my eyes. So

558
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 5: the guy restored the car and brought it to his dad.

559
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: Now dad couldn't remember which foot to put his shoe on,

560
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 5: but he remembered every single time car.

561
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

562
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: It just put Cooper Cobra GT radios on it. And

563
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 5: Dad yelled at the sun because we're supposed to have

564
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Speaker 5: good year polyglass, right.

565
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Speaker 1: Isn't Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? But when you

566
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Speaker 1: drive around Peoria, and I'm sure you look at repair shops,

567
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, car guys tend to look at repair shops.

568
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: What are they working on? What are they doing? Is

569
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Speaker 1: the fleet out there older? Are people inclined to replace

570
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Speaker 1: vehicles or are they more inclined to repair vehicles.

571
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Speaker 5: It's a really good question. So it's it's a dichotomy.

572
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Speaker 5: So Arizona, Phoenix is the fifth largest city in the country. Now,

573
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Speaker 5: So one of the attractions to Phoenix is that the

574
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 5: Phoenix area is it's affordable and the taxes are low.

575
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Speaker 5: So you've got a mix of new young urban people

576
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 5: that are professionals and they're all in the fancy new cars.

577
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 5: And then you've got a mix of the older retired

578
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 5: folks that are just hanging onto a car because they

579
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 5: came somewhere it was inexpensive to live and they don't

580
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: want to be spending a lot of money on new cars.

581
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Speaker 5: So it's kind of fifty to fifty, right right right?

582
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Speaker 1: Hey, Dan, can you you got time to hang around

583
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. I want to pull over take

584
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Speaker 1: a pause when we come back, if you can stay,

585
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about So we've

586
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: laid out the problem, maybe we can talk about the

587
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: solution and see what we can come up with. I'm

588
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: ronin Eni and the Car Doctor. I'm joined this hour

589
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: by Dan Curtis. He's the owner of az amc Restorations

590
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: out in Peoria, Arizona. And we'll both return right after this.

591
00:28:53,280 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: Don't go away, Welcome back listeners, ronn Amy and the Cardocks.

592
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm here with Dan Curtis, the owner of azy amc

593
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Speaker 1: Restorations out in Peoria, Arizona. Correct, Dan, that is correct,

594
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: And we were talking about the issues from your Facebook post,

595
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: your social media post talking about, you know, problems finding

596
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: a machine shop, reputable machine shop, quality work, getting it

597
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: done in a timely manner, all the issues that you know.

598
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Is there a solution? Is there an end to this

599
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: insight where we're going to be able to find machine

600
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Speaker 1: shops again?

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Speaker 5: So this is a very good question. I just as

602
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Speaker 5: a result of that same post on social media, a

603
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 5: fellow who has a racing engine machine shop here in

604
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 5: Phoenix is sixty one years old and called me up

605
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 5: because we've done business with them before, but he specializes

606
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 5: in racing engines. Ask me if I wanted to buy

607
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: his beautiful shop, and he's got a couple of million

608
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 5: dollars worth of equipment in it. It's like a data

609
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 5: center floor. It's immaculate and unfortunately a bit older than him.

610
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Speaker 5: So I told him, although I'd love to, it's probably

611
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: not in the cards for me. So I think what

612
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 5: the bottom line is and where I'm going with this

613
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 5: is it's about the dollar. We have been so used

614
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Speaker 5: to the machine shop world being a good value and

615
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 5: relatively inexpensive part of an engine build. That's not going

616
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Speaker 5: to be possible anymore.

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Speaker 2: Right.

618
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Speaker 5: I mean, this guy wanted if he wanted me to buy.

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Speaker 5: It was going to be millions of dollars to buy

620
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Speaker 5: his shop. And it's a racing business. So you know,

621
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Speaker 5: you can't charge one hundred dollars for decking the top

622
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Speaker 5: of a block when you've got a note for three

623
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Speaker 5: million dollars.

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Speaker 1: To buy the place, right right, And that machine that

625
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: decks the block is how many hundreds of thousands of

626
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: dollars or thousands of dollars right, it's it's it's return

627
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: on investment. It just it has to be practical.

628
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Speaker 5: So it gets even worse than that. Now, all the

629
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Speaker 5: repair parts for those things are not made in the

630
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Speaker 5: United States anymore. So let's say you have this two

631
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand dollars boring and decking machine and

632
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: a part breaks on it. You might have to wait

633
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 5: three months to get the part because it has to

634
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: be made and then shipped over from China. So we're

635
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: at a crossroads. We either have to accept the fact

636
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: that it's going to cost a lot more for machine

637
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 5: shop work, or it's going to go away. I mean,

638
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 5: those are the two options. There's no in between. So

639
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: I'm hoping and expecting that the result of our not

640
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 5: making anything and having these foreign made parts be poor

641
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: quality will result in a reinvestment in our own manufacturing capabilities.

642
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: Without that, we're at the mercy of a foreign country.

643
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 5: And we talked off air that you have some you know,

644
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 5: you're a history buff and World War two buff. Imagine

645
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 5: getting in a war and relying on your enemy to

646
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: supply you with the parts for your war munitions and

647
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: your war equipment. Right, curpracious thing I've ever thought of.

648
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Speaker 1: Do you have kids walking in the shop in our

649
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: last minute that are interested in this or no?

650
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Speaker 5: So we're kind of a tour destination for the AMC

651
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Speaker 5: faithful and then people in general, like you have heard

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Speaker 5: about us. So we get visitors all the time, not

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Speaker 5: necessarily kids, although they bring their kids with them who

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Speaker 5: seem bored because they're not on their cell phone. But

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Speaker 5: we get a lot of people to come in and

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Speaker 5: just want to see what we're doing, see the cars

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Speaker 5: we're working on, because there's not that many shops around

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Speaker 5: that do this stuff anymore, and.

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Speaker 1: There's just they're not coming in looking for a job,

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Speaker 1: was my question? Right, Yeah, now that doesn't exist.

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Speaker 5: No, not really, so very few. And then the ones

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Speaker 5: we have, the youngsters have tried to hire and get

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Speaker 5: them to be an apprentice.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 5: I hate to be so generalized, but the cell phone

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Speaker 5: is a big interference with people doing their job these.

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Speaker 1: Days, and it just keeps these kids from going. Hey, Dan,

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Speaker 1: real quick, last ten seconds. Name of the shop web address.

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Speaker 5: So it's www dot AMC Musclecars dot com. And that'll

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Speaker 5: actually bring you to the Facebook page because it's easy

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Speaker 5: to put stuff on Facebook than it is to put

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Speaker 5: it on my website.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, cool beans, Dan, Thanks for joining us today. Run

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Speaker 1: An Inning in the Card Doctor. We'll be back right

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back, run An Inning in the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: You know, before as we close out this hour, before

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Speaker 1: I go, I just want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about summer maintenance, getting ready for summer and some of

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Speaker 1: the basic things, and it's things you've heard me talk

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Speaker 1: about before, but I just want to remind everybody you know,

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Speaker 1: we're going to the summer driving season. Memorial Day is

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Speaker 1: just a scant thirty days away right now, and before

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll be doing some heavy summer cruising. If

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Speaker 1: we're taking trips, if we're just running around locally, the

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Speaker 1: engine and the vehicle is going to be working harder

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Speaker 1: running hotter in higher temperatures and so forth. So we've

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Speaker 1: got to take all of that into consideration depending upon

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Speaker 1: mileage and where you're at with this vehicle. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about if you own this vehicle, if you lease the vehicle, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the three years you're gonna lease it,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do your three four, five six oil changes

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Speaker 1: depending upon mileage, rotate the tires a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: and probably give it back. But if you own the

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Speaker 1: vehicle and you're going for longevity once it gets passed

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Speaker 1: or up to that thirty thousand mile mark and beyond,

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Speaker 1: it's great to start thinking about doing fuel system cleaning

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis, either with a system or a

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Speaker 1: product that goes into the intake system to do a fogging,

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Speaker 1: meaning it's going to be carried in through the intake air,

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Speaker 1: so it will hit the intake valves by virtue of

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Speaker 1: the ports, or if it's an older port fuel style

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Speaker 1: injection system, you're going to maybe go in through the

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Speaker 1: fuel rail and clean that way. But fuel system cleaning

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Speaker 1: is important on a regular basis depending upon where you live.

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Speaker 1: Air and cabin filters can't tell you how important it is,

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Speaker 1: and a good quality filter. A poor filter is just

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Speaker 1: as bad as a clog filter because in the case

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Speaker 1: of an air filter, a poor air filter will disrupt airflow,

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Speaker 1: affect how the mass airflow sensor works. If it's not

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Speaker 1: fitting the air box correctly and able to filter air

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Speaker 1: a lot of contaminant, it's going to hit the sensor

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Speaker 1: and you're going to have problems there. Last, but not least,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about draw liveline fluids. Driveline fluids

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Speaker 1: are important. They're very specific to the vehicle. They're very

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Speaker 1: specific by manufacturer. Look at the manufacturer's owner's manual. See

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Speaker 1: what it says. Talk to your mechanic, consider how you're

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Speaker 1: using it to decide whether or not it's time to

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Speaker 1: do fluids. And last, last, look at tires. Think about

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Speaker 1: it all. It's a package. So the next time I'm

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Speaker 1: notnating in the cardoc If the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See it