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Speaker 1: Failure is only failure if you see it that way.

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Speaker 1: It can also just be a lesson that you've learned.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily a body here. You are listening to

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Speaker 2: episode three hundred and sixty seven of Hurdle, a wellness

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Speaker 2: focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people about everything

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Speaker 2: from their highest ties and toughest moments to essential tips

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Speaker 2: to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We all

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Speaker 2: go through our fair share of hurdles. My goal through

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Speaker 2: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 2: and move with intention so that you can stride towards

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Speaker 2: your own big potential and of course, have some fun

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Speaker 2: along the way.

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Speaker 3: I won't even in front.

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Speaker 2: I've wanted to have this conversation on the show forever now,

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Speaker 2: ever since I first heard about Sonny Choi. Sunny Joy

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Speaker 2: is an olympian and a breaker, and in this week's episode,

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Speaker 2: from the age of three having dreams to one day

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Speaker 2: to eventually pursue a business degree. At Penn where she

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Speaker 2: also first tried free dancing herself. In twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: after making a name for herself on the world stage,

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Speaker 2: Choi made the big decision to walk away from her

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Speaker 3: Dream of becoming an Olympian.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we talk about her trip to the Games

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Speaker 2: the pivot she's made away from corporate life, currently working

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Speaker 2: how this bold choice to follow her passions has to

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Speaker 2: inspires her to keep dreaming big. We talk so much

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Speaker 2: about that in today's conversation, so much about self worth

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Speaker 2: and dreaming big, and it's called self worth for a reason.

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Speaker 3: I want to say that upfront.

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Speaker 2: The reality is that if we allow others to dictate

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Speaker 2: how we feel about ourselves, and happiness becomes something that's

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Speaker 2: beyond our control and life is too short for that.

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Speaker 2: Sunny's story inspires me to work hard to be my

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Speaker 2: best self, and I have no doubt that it will

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Speaker 3: With that, Let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling today.

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Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Sunny Chow. She's an Olympian,

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Speaker 2: a breakdancer. Welcome to hurdles, Sonny.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well this morning? Is it this morning anymore?

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Speaker 1: I got out there, I would like freeze up, not

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Speaker 1: do anything that I thought I was going to do,

437
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Speaker 1: not really allow myself to be in the moment, and

438
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Speaker 1: then immediately afterward, not even allow myself to sit with

439
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Speaker 1: that moment. But just judge myself right after for how

440
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: awfully I thought that I did so relatable. So that

441
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Speaker 1: was at least the first ten years of my breaking

442
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: every single time was like that. It wasn't, honestly until

443
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Speaker 1: more recently, kind of doing more of the intro work,

444
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: that I started being able to actually be present in

445
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: the moment when I was dancing. Sure I judged myself

446
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: right after anyway, but in those moments, finally finding moments

447
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: of like peace while I was dancing, you know where

448
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm like really just present, nothing else matters with the music,

449
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: my body in the floor, yeah, and allowing myself to

450
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Speaker 1: kind of just be in that moment and just like flow.

451
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Speaker 1: That really wasn't until recent years that I've been able

452
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Speaker 1: to do ten years.

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Speaker 2: I want to highlight that because we live in such

454
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Speaker 2: an instant gratification society, especially with all of us holding

455
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Speaker 2: a device in our right hand.

456
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Speaker 3: We see something and we want it immediately.

457
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Speaker 2: And you diligently worked to a place that you had

458
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: the skills, but you still needed to get out of

459
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Speaker 2: your own way.

460
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Speaker 3: To exercise those skills. Talk to me about the self

461
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Speaker 3: talk that is required in that.

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been someone who had really great

463
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: work ethic, and I think that obviously was to my

464
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: benefit in this kind of long game of like wanting

465
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Speaker 1: to get to this goal. Anyone who asked me what

466
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: my goal was in dancing, you know so many other

467
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Speaker 1: breakers like oh I want to make like this event,

468
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Speaker 1: or I want to be in like BC one, or

469
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: do this you know, big international event. I always told

470
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Speaker 1: people I want to be able to dance freely. I

471
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: knew that that was always my goal. I had no

472
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Speaker 1: ambitions of like winning big competitions or doing any of that.

473
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Speaker 1: And so I think one of the challenges again is

474
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: like that's like a pretty foggy goal. You don't really

475
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: know what that looks like until you get there. It's

476
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Speaker 1: not a small you know exactly. Yeah, there's nothing measurable here.

477
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Speaker 2: I just want to be able to do it freely.

478
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Speaker 2: And so what does freely look like for you?

479
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, But you know, I kept noticing as time

480
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: went on, it's like little bits were unlocking, Like I

481
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: was able to shut out, shut away a little bit

482
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: more every single time I danced. So yeah, I mean,

483
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: like just going into events, it would just basically I'd

484
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: be telling myself like, like stop it like stop the noise,

485
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, stop talking, and just like just go do

486
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: what you came to do. And you know, initially so

487
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm breaking nowadays, I actually I'm like almost all freestyle.

488
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: I just go out there and do what I feel

489
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: like doing. I might have like one or two moves planned,

490
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: but for the most part, I just like just go dance.

491
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: In the beginning, because my brain was so like hyperactive,

492
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: I would try to plan out a little bit more

493
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: so that I could be mindless because my body knew

494
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: what it was doing, and then I kept messing those

495
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 1: up every single time because then for a second I

496
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: would lock in with the music, I would completely lose

497
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: my place in my little like mini combo, and then

498
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: I would freeze up and I'd be like, I don't

499
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: even know how to do the basics anymore.

500
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Speaker 3: There is such a lesson here, and just like trusting

501
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: your guys.

502
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So it was, you know, in the beginning,

503
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: it was about like go of control there and allowing

504
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: myself and trusting my body and trusting my practice to

505
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: show up and do what I knew how to do,

506
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: rather than trying to like overcompensate for all of this insecurity,

507
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: I had around my ability. Yeah, yeah, I mean honestly,

508
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: that was basically like most of the journey, there's all

509
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: these little like I'm going to sound like good do

510
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: work saying this, but like all these are the side

511
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: quests to get there too, like all these other kind

512
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: of mental hurdles that had to kind of surpass to

513
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: be able to like really show up. Give me an example,

514
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, all of them, A lot

515
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: of them are rooted in this idea that I have

516
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: never thought that I was enough, you know, but they

517
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: all kind of manifested in different ways. And like one

518
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: of them was like my fear of failure and realizing,

519
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the like failure is only failure if

520
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: you see it that way, it can also just be

521
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: a lesson that you learned, and realizing that by never

522
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: allowing myself to fail, by never really truly dreaming, I

523
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: could never let myself do right. The other piece of

524
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: that puzzle is like maybe I didn't think I was

525
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: worth having, Like I didn't have enough work to have dreams,

526
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't I didn't have enough value, So.

527
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: Why would I heaving yourself enough? You know?

528
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Speaker 1: Yes, So there was a lot around that, and that

529
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,679
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530
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531
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Speaker 2: what's so special about you is that it's as though

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Speaker 2: there were two people. There's this person that feels safe

593
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Speaker 2: in this corporate path because by all definitions of success,

594
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Speaker 2: you were extremely successful on your corporate journey and you

595
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Speaker 2: had thoughts and goals on that path that you weren't

596
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Speaker 2: afraid of going after. And then there's this whole side

597
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598
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599
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Speaker 2: good in her body.

600
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Speaker 3: As she moves it freely. Right.

601
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Speaker 2: And so it's so interesting because we get into these

602
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: places again with that word should, where it's like, well,

603
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Speaker 2: this is the path that I should be on, so

604
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Speaker 2: it's okay to set.

605
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Speaker 3: Goals over here.

606
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

607
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Speaker 2: And so for you, as you become more comfortable dancing

608
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Speaker 2: in front of others, you also get to this point

609
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Speaker 2: where you're starting to travel to compete, which is a

610
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Speaker 2: whole other level.

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Speaker 3: Right.

612
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Speaker 2: You have to have a certain amount of self belief

613
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, not only am I going to take

614
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Speaker 2: some time to do this, but I'm also going to

615
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Speaker 2: invest in it, and you started investing in it.

616
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Speaker 1: Well, I will say the first couple of times I

617
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Speaker 1: traveled internationally, I had zero expectations. One of the very

618
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: first time was like with a group of people and like, honestly,

619
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Speaker 1: I felt like the token girl that was just like

620
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Speaker 1: thrown in the squad. And I was like, all right, well,

621
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Speaker 1: I just don't want to do bad because I'm the

622
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Speaker 1: token girl. I don't want people to feel like I'm

623
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Speaker 1: the token girl. But I didn't do it for me

624
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: per se. And then the next time I think I

625
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: traveled internationally, I didn't even I didn't even think I

626
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Speaker 1: was going to compete. I just went because I was like, oh,

627
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I met some friends, we want to go travel together.

628
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Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. And we get there and

629
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: she's like, you did not come all this way not

630
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: to enter the battle, Like that's insane. So she pushed

631
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: me to enter, and I happened to win, and it

632
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: was like at that time, you know, the biggest like

633
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Speaker 1: women's category competition, like one of the biggest in the

634
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Speaker 1: world at the time, And despite winning that, and I

635
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: mean it felt amazing despite winning that I never had,

636
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: I still didn't have the confidence. You know, winning was

637
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: never going to help me realize that I'm enough. That

638
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: was internal work that I needed to do and it

639
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: could never be externally validated. And so you know, as

640
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: I was going on and doing all this every single time,

641
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: you would never have guessed it on the outside, but

642
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: every single time. Maybe some people you can kind of

643
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: see in the footage back in the day that I

644
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: do lack some confidence. I don't look up as much,

645
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't look as present as I do now when

646
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm dancing. But yeah, most people wouldn't have guessed that

647
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: I was doubting myself so much, you know, traveling internationally.

648
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: I did start investing myself, but it was easier because

649
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: I had that job and I had that security blanket.

650
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I was working to dance, you know, basically working for

651
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Speaker 1: a paycheck so that I could go do the thing

652
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: that actually like really fueled me in life.

653
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: And as you start to travel more and do this

654
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: more and find this confidence, is there a conversation that

655
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: you have with your parents.

656
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: So they knew I was dancing, and they knew I

657
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: started traveling they knew I started making money on it,

658
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, well, I guess it doesn't sound awful,

659
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: but you should probably focus on like getting married and

660
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: having kids. Yeah, when things started getting more serious and

661
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I went to the World Games, and then, you know,

662
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: I think they did like an NPR segment. You know,

663
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: my dad always listens in PR, so for him he

664
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, wow, like this is this is legit.

665
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: And so I think having more kind of media almost

666
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: provide credibility to what I was doing. I think helped

667
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: my parents kind of wrap their heads around, like, oh,

668
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: maybe this is a little bit more serious than just

669
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, like just going on and I am

670
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: like partying and dancing.

671
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

672
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: Then my mom actually came to one of my events.

673
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: Funny enough, she didn't ask for the ticket for herself.

674
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: My aunt was in town and my aunt wanted to go,

675
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: and she was like, all right, can you just get

676
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: a ticket? Your aunt wants to go, so can you

677
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: get tickets for both of us? And I was like, sure,

678
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: of course I will, right, you know. But she didn't

679
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: even say she wanted to go, you know, it was

680
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: about my aunt going. But she went and she saw

681
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: me dance and she ended up loving it. It's one

682
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: of the moments that I'll probably remember for the rest

683
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: of my life. Actually, it's bringing tears in my eyes

684
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: now having her there. So it was really cute because

685
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the event, she was kind of

686
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: like back a little bit further than the crowd, and

687
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, I saw her and I wave before we started.

688
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: So I started dancing, and then the next round, I thought,

689
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she left. I couldn't find her, and

690
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, did she hate that much?

691
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Like And turns out a little bit later I realized

692
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: and my brother told me later she had like shoved

693
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: her a way through the crowd all the way to

694
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: like the front, like front end center maybe second row,

695
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: like right up there so she could like be up

696
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: in the action, like in the thick of it. And

697
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: then yeah, and so I ended up winning that event,

698
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: and so we kind of all got to celebrate and

699
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: talk about it, and she afterward was like, I'm converted.

700
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: I actually really like it.

701
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: Did you have worries about her coming to that event?

702
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, so much. Yeah, It's just like breaking

703
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: is is such a beautiful space because it's so diverse,

704
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: but we grew up in Lousville, Kentucky, where it's like

705
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: it just it's it's different. And this is an event

706
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: I think it was in LA but still a much

707
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: more diverse community, really love of music. This is like

708
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: hip hop culture. So you have people dressed, you know,

709
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: all sorts of different ways, and it's a younger crowd

710
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: and it's kind of dark and stinky sometimes and pretty

711
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: like not always organized.

712
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

713
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: So there's so many things that I was concerned about,

714
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, her being like a kind of traditional Korean,

715
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: grew up in Korea, came here, grew up then you know,

716
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: even being here, like growing up in Tennessee and Kentucky

717
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: is just like a different world. So I was super,

718
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: super anxious going into the event, and so I couldn't

719
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: have been more happy when I saw her in the front,

720
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: like just like really enjoying herself.

721
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

722
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: I would imagine such a weight lifted off your shoulders.

723
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

724
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: So special.

725
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: And so your family starts to have this resounding understanding

726
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: of what you're really doing. Yeah, does your work have

727
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: an understanding of what you're really doing?

728
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of my caveats always for accepting a

729
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: job was like I needed jobs that would allow me

730
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: to travel and potentially work as I traveled, versus like

731
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: always being in the office. And I mean I always

732
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: took vacation days for the days that I traveled, but

733
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: I was often like working when I was overseas. Wherever

734
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: I was, people started, you know, like my clothes. His

735
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: friends always knew. But then people would be like, why

736
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: isould she sending emails like like three am on vacation,

737
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: like where is she? And I'd been so that would

738
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: come back and they'd ask, and really all I was

739
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: in Japan and for the weekend, and I'd be like, yeah,

740
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: I just worked for a competition, Like what kind of competition?

741
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: So these things came up, so everybody always knew. And

742
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: also like at Estal latter, I would log off between

743
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: the hours of like six and nine, and I'd be

744
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: on my email but not on my computer. And I

745
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: mean even the fact that I had to log off

746
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: between those hours so that and then come back on

747
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: is kind of it's a thing on its own. But

748
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: I would disappear for a couple hours and I'd only

749
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: be on like you know, messenger or whatever, right, and

750
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: so they would be like, oh, what are you doing?

751
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, like because I was basically like on twenty

752
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: four seven when I was working except for when I

753
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: was dancing, and yeah, so you know, it would come

754
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: up and they'd ask, and then you know, we all

755
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: have Instagram, so people would find like I actually, before

756
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: I started working there, one of my direct reports, she

757
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: found me on Instagram and then, like, I want to

758
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: say a little bit later, she was like, I have

759
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: something to confess. I definitely talked to you on Instagram already,

760
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: do you know, you know, we just started talking about dance.

761
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: So nowadays it's like you can't really hide these days.

762
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how do you feel that dancing helped you

763
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: in that avenue of your professional life or that avenue

764
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: of your life.

765
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: I think the fact that dance made me really confront

766
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: myself and who I was and a lot of these

767
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: questions around identity and self worth and all of that

768
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: helped me to show up and be more confident at work.

769
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: So I knew who I was, I knew what I

770
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: stood for. I was able to say no and I

771
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: needed to say no, but kindly, you know, show up

772
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: in meetings, do big presentations, and like, never question if

773
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: you can dance in front of other people, you can

774
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: talk in front of other people.

775
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

776
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: Generally it made it so that I could show up

777
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: and be confident and be present at work as well.

778
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: This is why improv is such a big thing now

779
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: for folks that are working their way up within corporate.

780
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: They have so many professional geared improv classes, and I

781
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: have two friends now that have gone to them, like

782
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: with their teams. Yeah, I tried it recently for the

783
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: first time. I went on my own. I just thought

784
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: that it would be a good thing for me to

785
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: experiment with, and I can totally understand how it is

786
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: beneficial to put yourself in this uncomfortable situation where you're

787
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: doing something that maybe you wouldn't do otherwise. When you

788
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: were speaking earlier, you were talking about how you weren't

789
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: someone that really liked to be the center of attention. Well,

790
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: fast forward to gearing up for the Olympics. You now

791
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 2: are not only knowingly becoming the center of attention because

792
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: you're training to perform on this massive global stage, but

793
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: then you're thrust into this media spotlight. Everyone wants to

794
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: talk to the girl who's working at estay. Laud or

795
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: was up until then and is now pursuing break dancing

796
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: at the Olympics.

797
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how did that make you feel?

798
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: There are there were so many emotions surrounding that, and

799
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the real reason why

800
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: I did all of it is because I took every

801
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: single opportunity as a chance to talk about the community

802
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: and as a chance to shine a light on what

803
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: we were doing and why we were doing it and

804
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: how beautiful sports and art forms like breaking really are.

805
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: You know. I think breaking has this reputation of being

806
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: very street gritty, not always having the best light, and

807
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: yet there are elements like that to breaking, especially in

808
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: the history, but there are also so many beautiful things

809
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: about breaking. Not only is it diverse and accessible to

810
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: so many different people, but it's also just like grown

811
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: so much and it gives you so much, like it

812
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: gave me so much, you know. So I just wanted

813
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: to kind of share and show that there are untraditional

814
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: pathways to get where you want to get in life.

815
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, we don't get many opportunities, and it's really

816
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: hard to make a living off of breaking, So I

817
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: wanted to hopefully kind of get the word out, get

818
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: a little more attention, and whether that meant just like

819
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: an extra student for a teacher out in like Minnesota,

820
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: you know whatever. That looked like, like, that's just that's

821
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: a small win for taking one interview on Yeah, I

822
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: probably said yes to wait too many interviews and my

823
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: schedules insane. But at the end of the day, it

824
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: was like every single one was because I wanted more

825
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: people to talk about Breaking. I wanted people to understand

826
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: what it was really really about, and I wanted people

827
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: to understand why we were so passionate about it and

828
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: why we love it so much.

829
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: Do you feel like people got that out of the Olympics.

830
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: Out of watching the Olympics? It depends on why they

831
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: were there to watch, you know. And there was so

832
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: much noise afterwards too, so it really depends on where

833
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: you got your information. And I mean the type of

834
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: person you are. There's haters are going to be haters.

835
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: And all the people who went and only talked about

836
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: like Raygun afterward, like we weren't going to have you

837
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: as a fan of Breaking ever anyways, And so that's fine,

838
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: you stay over there, we don't in the community. But

839
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of people who watched

840
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: and they were extremely impressed at what we were doing, you know,

841
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: like even the athletes. So when we were walking around

842
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: like the Olympic training center, when we were at the games,

843
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: like people were excited to meet us, and then when

844
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: they watched this stance, they were like, oh my gosh,

845
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: you all are like physically so strong, and like what

846
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: you all do is so incredible, Like we could never

847
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: do that. And I mean, I can't throw a javelin,

848
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: like you know, I can't do what you're doing either.

849
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people underestimate how challenging

850
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: breaking really is. So being able to put that on

851
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: the spotlight and be able to really showcase it was

852
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: also really special.

853
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, when someone tells you, oh my god, you're so strong.

854
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: If I say that to you right now, what's your

855
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: first reaction? Like, what are you going to say back

856
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: to me?

857
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: Thank you?

858
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: Wow?

859
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: How long did it take for you to get to

860
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: a place where you said thank you?

861
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: Instead of trying to brush that off.

862
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: It started with not being able to take any compliment whatsoever.

863
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: Is that not the most relatable sentence of all time?

864
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And again that has to do with like myself

865
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: with if I'm not enough, I don't deserve this compliment, right,

866
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: you know, I could always be there's there's always better,

867
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: there's someone stronger, there's someone prettier, there's someone with better shoes,

868
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: like whatever, the compliment is. That took some time, and

869
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: I definitely had some friends be like, hey, like, you

870
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: should probably work on how you handle compliments, yeah, because

871
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: I would just brush them off or they oh, no,

872
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: like whatever. And I think the other piece to that

873
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: is strong. Today in women is often seen as beautiful,

874
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: but before it wasn't always a There wasn't always a

875
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: positive association. There was a look that even I myself shunned.

876
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, I actually hated the fact that I was

877
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: strong growing up. I hated the fact that my thighs

878
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: were so big that my upper body was wider than

879
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: my hips and I had no hips and I have

880
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: no real waste because I just have a lot of

881
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: muscle around there. And it's also like generically like that's

882
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: my body type, but there was a lot around that,

883
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: and I mean still to this day there are days

884
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: that I struggle. But when I think about like that

885
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: strength and what I can do with that, that far

886
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: outweighs the tiny bit of like thigh, I wish sometimes

887
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: I didn't have.

888
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, what's the inner dialogue like for you on

889
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: the days that you struggle.

890
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: I think most days this is a habit I have

891
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: where I kind of just if there are emotions or

892
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: things that are hard for me to handle, and I'm

893
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: not going to say this is the healthiest of Sometimes

894
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: I just put them aside and I'm like, you know what,

895
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to deal with this another day. It serves

896
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: me on some days, and other days it comes invites

897
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: me in the butt because you kind of like build

898
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: those up and all of a sudden they come flooding

899
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: in all at once, and I you know, I've actually

900
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: done similar with some of my emotions around the Olympics.

901
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: I haven't really processed them all. Even though it's been

902
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: a year or just about a year, I think since

903
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: I competed. There's still some emotions that were just too

904
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: big for me to handle at that time that I've

905
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of like put it, I tucked away in a box.

906
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: You know, when you like move and then there's that

907
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: last box that's sitting in the room that you haven't unpacked.

908
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: They all just kind of go in that box. So

909
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: some days that's what happens. Other days it is just

910
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: running myself, like, hey, I'm gonna go work out, I'm

911
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna feel better later. It's okay to not feel great sometimes,

912
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: or to not love how I look sometimes. I would

913
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: love to get to a point where I love how

914
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: I look all the time. But like we're human, yeah,

915
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: and there's so much pressure out there to look anyway.

916
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: But the way you look naturally, so you know, And

917
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: so I think it's natural some days to wake up

918
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: like that, and it's okay.

919
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: It's okay.

920
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: What do you think will be the catalyst for you

921
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: unpacking the Olympics box.

922
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: So I've actually have plans of like I really like

923
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: writing and helps men to organize my thoughts. And I'm

924
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: not one of those people who like gets up in journals.

925
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: I just can't do a stream of consciousness. But taking

926
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: big ideas and emotions, putting them on paper and then

927
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: like reorganizing them in a way that accurately depicts how

928
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: I feel helps me to kind of figure out my emotions.

929
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: And so I've actually already written some pages, chapters and

930
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: stuff like that of like what I would like to

931
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: be a book one day, you know, Little by little,

932
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: it's just I have these moments i'll write down a

933
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: thought or I'm like I need to come back to this,

934
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: or even sometimes looking at photos like really makes me like,

935
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: there's this one photo of my family I'm going to

936
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: cry to talk about it, where my whole entire family

937
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: is all together, they're all a team years say year,

938
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: They're all like you know, and every time I see it,

939
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: it makes me want to cry. And part of it

940
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: is because there's some emotion around that, around my whole

941
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: family being there unconditionally supporting me for the first well

942
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: I felt like for the first time, you know, yeah,

943
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: and the clash of that and me not feeling like

944
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: I deserved it that I think I still have to

945
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: unpack and so you know, stuff like that have these

946
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: motions and then I'm like, well, you know what, like

947
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: I want to podcast and like today without the data

948
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: part the process so together. Yeah, so it's kind of

949
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: like we put that aside, but I know, like that's

950
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: that's one that I know I need to come back to,

951
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: and I know I want to write about. I've kind

952
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: of like written like a little preface for it, and

953
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: like almost every time I read it, I cry because

954
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: it just takes me back to that moment of like

955
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: competing on the stage entirely understandable.

956
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a meaningful moment for you personally

957
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 2: to be there, and then that is only amplified by

958
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: looking and seeing all that support in your corner when

959
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: at so many other moments in your life you questioned,

960
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: am I worthy of this support?

961
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think you know, for me, like for

962
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: everyone who goes to the Olympics, it's like a special moment, right,

963
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: But for me, this journey was like learning to dream again,

964
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: learning to believe in myself, and then finally showing up

965
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: for myself on that day, you know, letting myself be free.

966
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: Like I know for sure that day that goal was met.

967
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, I was, I was present, I was having

968
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: so much fun. I walked off that day with zero regrets.

969
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, I don't and I've talked

970
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: to people about it afterwards, and like, I don't know

971
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: that it would have felt the same to have the

972
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: validation of a medal, because it's like I didn't go

973
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: there for that, and had I gotten that, that might

974
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: have taken away the fact that I had done all

975
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: this work and then like needed something to validate the work.

976
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I didn't need that. I didn't. It's almost like I didn't.

977
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: I like truly went in like not even caring or wanting,

978
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: Like sure it would have been great, but I really

979
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 1: just wanted to show up for myself that day. Yeah,

980
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, this lifelong dream of mine that I had

981
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: just like shoved down had come back and this was

982
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: life saying like do something for yourself. And so there

983
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: was just like so much that culminated on that day

984
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: and so many different like meanings to like me showing up.

985
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just like really special for me.

986
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: And like again like my family being there and all together,

987
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: like we're so rarely together because we're all over the place,

988
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: everybody showing up and like just being decked out and

989
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: like just enjoying each other's company, and yeah, everything was

990
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: just really special.

991
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: Was there for you? And Olympics come down?

992
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh?

993
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

994
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: It was many many months.

995
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: What did that look like for you?

996
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: Uh? Most days just like waking up into this like blah, Yeah,

997
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: I had zero motivation to do anything, you know, because

998
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: I had been working. You know, everybody works hard, but

999
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: just having worked in corporate trying to layer on strength

1000
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: and conditioning and breaking on top of that and working

1001
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: like a pretty demanding job and going through these like

1002
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: rough whatever. And this is also like right after the

1003
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: pandemic and all the stress of the pandemic as well.

1004
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I have felt like I had just been on this

1005
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: like unmanageably insane roller coaster for so long and then

1006
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: just jumped straight into this Olympic pathway right after and

1007
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: naively thought, oh, well, if I quit my job, like

1008
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: I'll have a little bit of time absolutely not between

1009
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: training and media and my partner obligations and like sponsorships

1010
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like and the added stress of the Olympics,

1011
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: it's like I felt like I was drowning, you know, constantly,

1012
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: and I had felt like that for so long. So finally,

1013
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: after doing all that and just being like, you know,

1014
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: like push, push those things aside, we'll deal with them later.

1015
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: We'll deal with them later, Olympus comes, Compete, go home,

1016
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: and it's like all of that just comes and it's

1017
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: like it's like suffocating, and I just like I wasn't

1018
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: able to do anything for a while, you know. Obviously

1019
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: working with my therapist to kind of work through that.

1020
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: During the Olympic journey, I had kind of already started

1021
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: working on like being kind to myself and working on

1022
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: not guilting myself so much over like all the things

1023
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: that I wasn't doing, But it was even more. It

1024
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: was even more about being kind to myself, about giving

1025
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: myself the grace, about allowing myself to feel those feelings

1026
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: and allowing myself to sit with them and be uncomfortable.

1027
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1028
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you talked when we started about having foggy goals.

1029
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: Right now, does part of you think about going back

1030
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: into corporate or are you feeling really content with the

1031
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: training and being a certified strength and conditioning coach?

1032
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: What are you? Where's your head at? Ah?

1033
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie and say that I'm

1034
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: never ever tempted. There are parts of me that's like,

1035
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: honestly that life was easier because easier in the sense

1036
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: that I didn't have to put so much thought into it,

1037
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: and like, my heart is really in this job. I

1038
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: love working with people. I love being someone's support as

1039
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: they go through this journey, finding movement, finding happiness, finding

1040
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: whatever it is that they need, you know, and being

1041
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: there on them with the journey. But when your heart

1042
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: is in it and you care so much, there's like

1043
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: pressure that comes with that, whereas like I could just

1044
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: show up to my job and I'm working for someone else,

1045
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: and like who cares. I do a great job, sure,

1046
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: but I don't have any skin in the game. Yeah,

1047
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: So there are days where I wish, like, man, things

1048
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: were easier back then and I made more money, and

1049
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, I had like set vacation that I could take,

1050
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Like it was just seemed simpler, right, But I wasn't

1051
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: as happy. And you know that always brings me back

1052
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: to I always remind myself, like, I'm so much happier,

1053
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: so much more fulfilled, I'm so much more present, kinder

1054
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: to myself. I'm just a different person today than I

1055
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: was then. And to be honest, I don't while I

1056
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: think it would be easier, I don't think I could

1057
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: actually do it again because I care too much about

1058
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: my happiness.

1059
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's such a great realization to have, one

1060
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 2: that you now understand these are the things that bring

1061
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: me joy, and these are what I want to focus

1062
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: my life on now. Of course, one needs to figure

1063
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: out how to monetize these things. But along the road

1064
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: to doing that, there is so much more joy because

1065
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: you're coming back and circling back to your values, right, Yeah.

1066
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: Were you training? When did you start training?

1067
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: So I personally started like working out in the gym,

1068
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: I think in like twenty twenty two. Okay, so that

1069
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: was the first time I ever started lifting like heavy,

1070
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: and I started working with a coach and I worked

1071
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: with her all through the games and then up until

1072
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: pretty recently when I started programming for myself. Yeah, I

1073
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: started training clients earlier this year.

1074
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: And when did you get your CSCs Was in May

1075
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: this year? Okay, wow.

1076
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's an intense journey within itself. The studying for.

1077
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: That, yeah, it was a pretty you know, I knew

1078
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: it was going to be difficult, but I still underestimated

1079
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: how challenging it was going to be, especially not having

1080
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: a background and exercise science.

1081
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1082
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I was always a good student, so I was like,

1083
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: all right, Like the studying part shouldn't too challenging, but

1084
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: the carving out so much time to like self teach

1085
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: myself is really challenging because you know, when you're in school,

1086
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: it's like someone's teaching you and if you have questions

1087
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: you can ask, whereas like I'm just reading a textbook

1088
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: and praying that I understand everything properly. It's hard, So

1089
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: that definitely was pretty challenging. But I guess I'm privileged

1090
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: enough to be able to have set a side time

1091
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: for that and not had a ton of other obligations. Yeah,

1092
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: so I was able to really focus and just do that.

1093
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: What made you decide to go all in on CSCs

1094
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: versus like different CPT certifications.

1095
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: I do, at the end of the day, really enjoy

1096
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: So I am a maximizer. I am that like trying

1097
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: to squeeze out that one percent person. Yeah, and that's

1098
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: kind of what the CSS is about. That's what I'm

1099
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: working with Elite athletes is about. But it still gives

1100
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: me the foundation to work with like everybody.

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: You know, you said the word elite athletes. So I'm

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00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: going to just ask you this before we start to

1103
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: wind down. Now, when someone would come to you and

1104
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: say breakers aren't athletes, what would you say in return?

1105
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever watched us dance before? Yeah? Have you

1106
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: ever tried it?

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00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: You know, it was a huge criticism about it being

1108
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: integrated into the games at all, and then I know

1109
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: as soon as they were like and it will not

1110
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: be returning for LA twenty twenty eight, everyone was like, well, duh.

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00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when we walked around the Olympic training center,

1112
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: when we walked around at the Olympics, everybody saw us

1113
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: as a peer and actually there was a lot of

1114
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: admiration for what we did. So many of the other

1115
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: athletes were able to see, oh, like they're legit, they're

1116
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: real athletes too, you know. Yeah, And so for all

1117
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: those other people who may or may not be physical,

1118
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: may or may not have ever tried dancing or even

1119
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: seen it, it's like, you can have your opinions, but

1120
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it doesn't change the

1121
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: fact that breaking is extremely difficult. Is a sport by definition,

1122
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: Look at the definition online, you know. Yeah, I mean

1123
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: it's basically just like organized play that is like competitive,

1124
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, that's what we're doing.

1125
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 3: So this is about sport. It's not about for it.

1126
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean anything that we're talking about in life where

1127
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: it's like you can hate from outside the club, but

1128
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: then you're never going to come in.

1129
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 3: You know, we don't want you.

1130
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: So that's okay, It's okay.

1131
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Right now, someone comes to your Instagram page, they see

1132
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: someone that is now a proud Olympian, a breaker also

1133
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 2: in her strength bag.

1134
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: But when you look in the mirror, Sonny, what is

1135
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 3: it that you see looking back at you?

1136
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't see any of that, And I think they're

1137
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: all parts of my identity, but they're not me, you know. Yeah,

1138
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I actually see kind of like the

1139
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: core personality traits that I have, Like I care, I'm kind,

1140
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: I love, I'm honest, maybe to a fault sometimes, but

1141
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: these things that are like very core to who I am.

1142
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: I think is what I face in the mirror and

1143
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: what I need to face in the mirror. I have

1144
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: for so long have put caveats on all of those descriptors.

1145
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: You know, I love, but like but you know, sometimes

1146
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't do it enough and I mess up sometimes,

1147
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: But like who cares you know about all these little

1148
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: like quote unquote mistakes. So that's kind of what I

1149
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 1: really try to see in the mirror. Yeah, Because again,

1150
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: like all these other things that can change, I may decide,

1151
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: like down the road, I actually want to have a

1152
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: nonprofit dance center, and I may pull back a little

1153
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: bit on the shamething conditioning. That doesn't change who I am.

1154
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: It just changed one of my descriptors, you know. Yeah,

1155
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: like even the title and being like, I'm still working

1156
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: on that. It's a heavy title to walk around with,

1157
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, and there's a lot of expectation that comes

1158
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: with it, and I'm still coming to terms with that.

1159
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: But again, it's a descriptor. It's not who I am.

1160
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: Heavy title to walk around with, a title of honor,

1161
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: but a title that comes with a.

1162
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: Lot, yeah, a lot of expectation around it.

1163
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: What does that expectation look like for you these days?

1164
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: It just depends. It depends on the space, you know.

1165
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: Like to be honest, I went to a run club

1166
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: once and they're like, there's an Olympian here, and they're like, oh,

1167
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: you're the pacesetter. Absolutely not. I'm a really slow runner. Okay,

1168
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: not really slow. I'm like medium slow. So you're gonna

1169
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: catch me in the bat I'm here. Yeah, I run

1170
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: for fun. I love it, And like I live in

1171
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: base sides, so I run on the water. It's really calming,

1172
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: it's very suiting, so good for my mental health. And

1173
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: like I see it as a challenge because I've always

1174
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: been like a strength and power athlete, so doing anything

1175
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: aerobic is extremely challenging for me. But because I'm going

1176
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: into the strength and conditioning field. I wanted to do

1177
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: it because it's like I won't know what it's like

1178
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: until I've done it, and so I wanted to go

1179
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: through the process, maybe run a half one day, who knows.

1180
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: So in some spaces it's like, oh, there's all this expectation,

1181
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: and then in other spaces it's like people just I'm

1182
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: an Olympian, but nobody cares. Like my closest friend groups,

1183
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, they don't ask me about it. Yeah, I'm

1184
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: just sunny, you know. And so yeah, it really just

1185
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: depends on where I am. It feels different in every space.

1186
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: What are you excited about right now?

1187
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm excited to be working with some

1188
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: of the clients.

1189
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 3: That I'm working out, that's amazing. Yeah.

1190
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I just love showing up and being there for other people.

1191
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: I've always been someone who was like wanted to be

1192
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: there for others, which is like great at times and

1193
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: other times it's challenging because I also need a shout

1194
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: for myself, you know, so working on both ends. But

1195
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: right now I'm really excited about that hopefully opening my

1196
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 1: own gym and then my own dance center one day.

1197
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm excited to go kind of chat it

1198
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: up with some clients and always excited to see my

1199
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: dog and boyfriend at the end of the day.

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00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: Oh what kind of dog.

1201
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: She's an Australian shepherd Meg.

1202
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh, the cutest things. I cannot wait to see the

1203
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: photos have to rewrap. Okay, and then final question here

1204
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself a

1205
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: piece of advice. Knowing what you know now looking back

1206
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: on the hurdle moment, which was I'm going to walk

1207
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: away from the security of this corporate job and make

1208
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: the decision to stop shooting myself. Yeah, and train to

1209
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: be an Olympian. Knowing what you know now, what would

1210
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: you tell yourself during that hurdle moment?

1211
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 1: Oh, this is another one that's going to make me cry.

1212
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: But I think the most important words for me are

1213
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: You're enough.

1214
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're enough, more than enough. Ain't that the truth?

1215
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: My girl?

1216
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you were able to come in

1217
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: and so happy to have you on hurdle. For those

1218
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 2: that aren't following along with you, just yet give us

1219
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: the detail.

1220
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: How do we stay up with you?

1221
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: Oh? I have like tears dwelling in my eyes. Excuse me.

1222
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Instagram is probably the best way to follow along underscore

1223
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: Sunny Choy the Instagram it is.

1224
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another

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Speaker 2: Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time