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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Arizona Cardinals. And if you've listened

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Speaker 1: about honest and Yannest is one of the great physical

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Speaker 1: the two games. I don't know that he would have

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Speaker 1: maintained it because every single year, even as they improved

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Speaker 1: a little bit, they crumbled down the stretch. And for

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Speaker 1: the first time the Raiders actually played really well in December.

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Speaker 1: That had not been happening under Gruden. But I think

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Speaker 1: you have to be very very careful of these enormous

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Speaker 1: self promoters, and I would say John Gruden is an

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Speaker 1: all time self promoter. He's an okay, solid coach, probably

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Speaker 1: above average football coach and offensive coordinator, but he is

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Speaker 1: one of the worst, let me repeat, worst Drafters we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. You'd be like, what about mayk. John Gruden

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Speaker 1: had the final decision on literally everything in the building.

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Speaker 1: It's why you know now that Josh McDaniels and Ziegler

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Speaker 1: are there and the Raiders is an awesome job. The

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Speaker 1: owner doesn't tell you ship. You can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want about Mark Davis and

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Speaker 1: the haircut. You're a lot. You get, you know, full

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Speaker 1: uh power on everything from sandwiches, the player's eat, to

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Speaker 1: the to the offensive line, to the meeting where you

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Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. And John Gruden failed. Let

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Speaker 1: that be a life lesson. Next time a guy doesn't

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Speaker 1: have success and goes away and the hype machine grows,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna red flag that thing. Daniel Jones, speaking of

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Speaker 1: the fifth year options, I I developed a philosophy this morning,

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Speaker 1: and it's basically, when in doubt, when there's any question, decline.

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Speaker 1: To me, the fifth year option should consistently be no brainer. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Justin Herbert, you know if you don't even

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Speaker 1: have to think Tristan Worth's just think of all the

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Speaker 1: first rounders. Nope, Jamaar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Micah Parsons, like

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Speaker 1: those level players. Anything else, any question you have, you

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Speaker 1: should immediately decline. Now, some decisions are gonna be harder

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Speaker 1: than others because it's it's always difficult. Actually, if you've

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Speaker 1: made the pick. It was easy for the Giants, right,

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Speaker 1: The new GM and the new head coach had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with drafting. That was Dave Gentleman. But it

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Speaker 1: is the right decision. And let's say in a perfect world,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has a career year and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden looks like he could be the starter. It happened

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Speaker 1: once upon a time, different situation because the fifth year

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Speaker 1: option I don't even think existed and this guy wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been on it. But Alex Smith, Jim Harbaugh came

468
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Speaker 1: in basically a one year contract. He resurrects his career.

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Speaker 1: If Daniel Jones has a has an Alex Smith resurrection,

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Speaker 1: you deal with that next year. But under no circumstances

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Speaker 1: could you have accepted the offer. And I think when

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Speaker 1: you look around, I see I saw it with the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners, Mike McGlinchey, he's been okay. But to me,

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Speaker 1: the moment you have to be like should I don't

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Speaker 1: decline because you get yourself in this position where you

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Speaker 1: have these enormous numbers because they're like the average of

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Speaker 1: the most recent five guys that you know the contracts,

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Speaker 1: So these quarterback contracts, and you're seeing it this year

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Speaker 1: with with Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald, their number is big.

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Speaker 1: They are not nineteen million dollar players. But that is

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Speaker 1: the number on the fifth year option, and regardless of

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Speaker 1: the position, it's a relatively high number. So when you

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Speaker 1: on the fence and then you accept the or you uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you give the thumbs up to pick up

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Speaker 1: the option, and then you're regretted a year later, that's

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Speaker 1: where you have problems because like the franchise tag, there

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Speaker 1: is no moving the money around on the salary cap.

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Speaker 1: If it's a fifteen, if it's an eighteen, and the

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Speaker 1: number is only gonna grow as these contracts are growing.

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Speaker 1: Twenty million dollars fifth year option, that number is on

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Speaker 1: the cap, and if you're on the fence, that means

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Speaker 1: you probably don't want to extend the player and you

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Speaker 1: find yourself a no man's land, and you want to

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Speaker 1: avoid being a no man's land at all times when

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Speaker 1: it comes to player contracts, especially guaranteed money. Remember a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Kyle Fuller. You know there's two Fullers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Kyle Fuller who was the corner for

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Speaker 1: the Bears. They declined the fifth year option, then he

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Speaker 1: had a fantastic year and then they paid him. If

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Speaker 1: you got to do that, you gotta do it worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario, Daniel Jones has a Pro Bowl season and

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Speaker 1: your franchise tag him. More than likely he won't and

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Speaker 1: you can just rid yourself of him and you're not

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Speaker 1: tied like part of trading for Like, I don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: blame the Panthers because when you trade a second round

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Speaker 1: pick for Sam Donald, but you don't think they regret

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Speaker 1: picking that thing up. You don't think the Browns. And

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Speaker 1: I said this at the time, and I know he

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Speaker 1: had a really good year, but you watched him, you went,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is sustainable. He's tiny, he

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Speaker 1: can't move. Their team is absolutely stacked. And someone told me,

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Speaker 1: who was I talking to? I was talking to someone

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Speaker 1: on the that said they were on the field a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago with Kevin Stefanski and Baker was

515
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Speaker 1: having a really good year, and Kevin told one of

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Speaker 1: their offensive coaches like, yeah, I just I'm still not

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Speaker 1: that comfortable, Like, I don't know if we see this

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Speaker 1: guy as the long term guy. This was in two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty, and then clearly after that season they picked

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Speaker 1: up the fifth year option. And now, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: more more likely than not the Browns are gonna have

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Speaker 1: to cut Baker Mayfield and eat that eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now that that's a Jimmy Haslum bank account problem. But still,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, that's pretty embarrassing. That's bad business. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they don't want to be in this situation at all.

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Speaker 1: I Also, I saw a good stat uh from Albert

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Speaker 1: Brier today on the on the quarterbacks, and they're impacting

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Speaker 1: the draft, I said, for a while, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not to toot my own horn, but don't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if not as many quarterbacks go high as people

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Speaker 1: are hyping it up to be. This said, this was

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Speaker 1: the complete opposite, even in a draft that had some failures,

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Speaker 1: right Baker, Sam Josh Uh to Josh's Josh Allen, Josh Rosen,

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Speaker 1: and Lamar j Acson that that draft was clear these

535
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Speaker 1: guys were gonna go really high. And honestly, you could

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Speaker 1: argue the story of the draft was Lamar falling to

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Speaker 1: thirty two. But in this draft they had the lowest.

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Speaker 1: A quarterback hadn't gone this low for the first quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and only one guy in the first round in twenty

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Speaker 1: five years, and that was Jim Drunken Miller Inn I

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Speaker 1: think went twenty six and this year obviously just the

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Speaker 1: one quarterback went picked twenty which I don't necessarily see it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not a big, average arm guy. And my

544
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Speaker 1: struggle with Kenny Pickett is when your camp is a

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Speaker 1: poor man's Mac Jones. Like I'll be honest, I didn't

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Speaker 1: view mac Jones as a first round pick last year.

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Speaker 1: To me, historically, Mac Jones goes in the second round.

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Speaker 1: I would say historically, Kenny Pickett goes in like the

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Speaker 1: third round. He was a one year wonder. Now I

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Speaker 1: get it. Really good guy and part of it same

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Speaker 1: with mac Jones, but I I don't see it where

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Speaker 1: I thought the other picks in the draft. It was

553
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Speaker 1: just proper value. Like everyone and I told this to

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Speaker 1: Coward yesterday on his pod, like everyone freaked out, like,

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Speaker 1: oh listen, I'm a big John Robinson guy. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a good pick. That's good value, but that's

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Speaker 1: proper value. You get this guy who's a raw product,

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Speaker 1: who's got you know, first round attributes, but you know

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Speaker 1: one was gonna take that guy in the first or

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Speaker 1: second round. As as as a scouting director told me

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Speaker 1: probably last week, maybe it's two weeks ago, he's like

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Speaker 1: the guy can't throw within the pocket. He can kind

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Speaker 1: of run around and then he has a strong arm,

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Speaker 1: but even then he doesn't know where it's going. But

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Speaker 1: he has no clue what he's doing in the pocket none,

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Speaker 1: Which is fine if you believe in your coaching and

567
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Speaker 1: you can get that guy going, But if you don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're doing in the pocket, I can't take

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Speaker 1: in the first two rounds. And Desmond Ritter, unlike Malik

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Speaker 1: willis like part of Malik willis why you can take

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Speaker 1: in the third round is he has an enormous arm,

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Speaker 1: So you hope that you can mold him, but there's

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Speaker 1: no guarantee you have you can. And on the flip side,

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter probably is what he is. Okay, arm, good

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Speaker 1: at fleet, good guy, but his physical attributes are average

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Speaker 1: at best. If anything, he's gonna have to hang his

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Speaker 1: hat kind of like his best case scenario. Best best

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Speaker 1: case is Dak Prescott and to me worst case is

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Speaker 1: his cop Marcus Mariota. Well, if you could redo a draft,

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Speaker 1: what round when Marcus Mariota will go in third or fourth? Right,

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Speaker 1: he would not go. He went number two. As history

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Speaker 1: of shown that was an all time overdraft and you

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Speaker 1: don't know that at the time, but I but I

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Speaker 1: remember thinking, like the hype on this kid, and I

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Speaker 1: love Marcus Mariota, one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.

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Speaker 1: People that have been around Mariota swear by the guy.

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't have a great arm. He's not that accurate.

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Speaker 1: He's fast, and he's tall, I mean, but but he

589
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Speaker 1: struggles to be a consistent starter in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: when he did start, it didn't it got worse as

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Speaker 1: time went on. So I I think that we overhype,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so because of the importance of quarterbacks. But

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Speaker 1: I think now the media and the hype on these

594
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Speaker 1: like every every draft needs to have four or five quarterbacks. No,

595
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Speaker 1: they don't, like good quarterbacks should go high. But it

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Speaker 1: makes no sense to take a quarterback just to take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round. You need to take

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Speaker 1: starters in the first round because you're gonna pay them

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Speaker 1: the most, and part of it obviously the fifth year option.

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Speaker 1: It is uh, there are benefits to getting it right,

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Speaker 1: but you you don't want to waste the pick. And

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Speaker 1: I give a lot of credit to just the GMS

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Speaker 1: last year. Loved the Blitneicough family. And Uh, he's transferring

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Speaker 1: or more than likely he's transferred. He's entered the transferred

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Speaker 1: And I think Coward said today that uh reportedly like

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Speaker 1: three million dollars in the house. And I've I've found

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Speaker 1: entire adult life. They always freaked out about no one

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Speaker 1: getting paid when that was just factually incorrect. Guys have

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Speaker 1: in college basketball basically before I was born, let alone

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty years with the explosion of money,

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Speaker 1: like guys were handed large suitcases of money to go

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Speaker 1: to schools people like, well the same schools, Yeah, pay

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Speaker 1: the most, the schools that consistently win. Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: top programs did not, and we have evidence because of

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Speaker 1: the FBI investigation in college basketball that the going rate

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Speaker 1: for top players was three four thousand dollars. And I

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Speaker 1: never was bothered by that. If you want to pay Zion,

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Speaker 1: if you want to pay Anthony Davis, if you want

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Speaker 1: should if you want to pay these suite recruits. Football

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Speaker 1: is a little more difficult because there is no guarantee

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Speaker 1: that a top recruit is going to turn into an

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Speaker 1: NFL player. In basketball, you have a pretty damn good idea.

641
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: When the guys coming out of high school, football is

642
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: a little more difficult. There are the occasional clown ease

643
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: and julios, but for the most part in the quarterbacks,

644
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: it can be very, very hit or miss. So we'll

645
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Speaker 1: find as time goes on. How if I was a

646
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: huge booster, well, let's just say hundreds of millions of dollars,

647
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Speaker 1: I would have no problem telling my coach and telling

648
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: my athletic direct I will fund transfers. I will not

649
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: fund recruits because it's just too big, too too much

650
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: of an unknown. But I have no problem paying a

651
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: premium for Addison, this wide receiver from Pittsburgh who I

652
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: told Coward this on Sunday night. I can't blame this

653
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: guy at all. To me, if Kenny Pickett had a return,

654
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: you'd be like, well, that's a little weird. That would

655
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: be a little shady. His star quarterback just got drafted

656
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: in the tow the Pittsburgh Steelers. He has no quarterback.

657
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: And it's not like he plays at Ohio State or Alabama,

658
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: where they constantly have NFL quarterbacks. He plays at Pittsburgh.

659
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: So USC comes Colin. Well, guess what they have one

660
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the country. He has seen

661
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: over the last I don't know two months. The amount

662
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: of money that wide receivers are being paid. So if

663
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm him and I just had a fantastic year, I'd

664
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: be like, well, yeah, I just played with an NFL player. Well,

665
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance that pits the next guy up,

666
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: sucks or his average. Think about Jamaar Chase. When Joe Burrow,

667
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, declared for the draft, or maybe he was

668
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: maybe his career was over because he was fifth year.

669
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Speaker 1: I don't even remember. He might have been an underclassman.

670
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: But regardless, Jamaar Chase sitting out, I remember, everyone made

671
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: a big deal. He lost his quarterback and it was

672
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: proven very very quickly that the quarterbacks at L s

673
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: U stink. So he made the right decision just from

674
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: a fact that who's gonna throw him the football? His

675
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: numbers are gonna drop, his is he's just not gonna

676
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: be as good, and then his draft status is gonna drop.

677
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: So why would a guy when you can transfer with ease,

678
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: which is I have no problem with it. Again, I've

679
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: never had a problem with people getting brown bags. I've

680
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: just never been disingenuous and acted like the players didn't

681
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: get paid At the top programs. The players have always

682
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: been paid rightfully so and now it's just above board.

683
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: You gotta pay taxes on it, and I think the

684
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: numbers are a little higher if you're paying the guy.

685
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't think guys are making three million dollars back

686
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: in the day. But if you convinced me that in

687
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Speaker 1: college basketball guys were going for seven figures pre n

688
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: I l I believe it. I think it's very fair.

689
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine there have been seven figure transactions sixteen

690
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: seventeen year olds, probably a little less likely in football,

691
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna happen more often with these

692
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: guys transferring that are known quantities, because I have no

693
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: problem paying a million dollars or two million dollars for

694
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Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver in the country, right because

695
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: we see how much of these guys are going for

696
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're making seventy eight million dollars. A J.

697
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: Brown just got a hundred million dollars. Now you got

698
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: fifty seven guaranteed. But if he stays healthy, he'll see

699
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: every penny. So I I think the freak out on

700
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: this one. The media is just very disingenuous about it all,

701
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: and too who cares. I mean, it's called capitalism. Someone

702
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: calls you and offers you a bunch of money. In

703
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: a better situation, you'd be stupid at least not listen,

704
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: let alone probably go. You know, maybe Pitt doesn't have

705
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: the money, and maybe just simply from a football standpoint,

706
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: he thinks their quarterback room isn't very good. How could

707
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: you blame him? A couple other nuggets around the league.

708
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: One big story today is the Honey Batcher. I was

709
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: kind of hoping the forty Niners would sign him, and

710
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: then I saw how much money he got, Like, damn,

711
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, he got three years, thirty three million dollars

712
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: and eighteen million dollars guaranteed. That's not nothing. I mean,

713
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: that's basically he's gonna be on their team for multiple seasons. Uh.

714
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: You know, at average is eleven million dollars. But to me,

715
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: I look at it guaranteed money. It's like a two year,

716
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, nine nine and a half million dollar a

717
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: year contract. And I think the Saints. Saints fans get

718
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: very very mad at me. They're like a middle saying here,

719
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm not I think your roster is very good. But

720
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: it's a coach quarterback league. You just lost the best

721
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: coach in the history of the franchise to Dennis Allen.

722
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, I saw Dennis Allen up close and personal.

723
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. Now. That doesn't mean guys

724
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: can't improve, but I I can't just assume that he's

725
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. And if I say it's a

726
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: coach quarterback, like your quarterback is Jamis Winston, who I

727
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, I said I was out on he kind

728
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: of drew me back in. He's coming off an a

729
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Speaker 1: c L. I I don't know. I I get you

730
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: played Tampa really well, and you guys love telling everyone

731
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: that I understand, but I think it's one thing when

732
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's running the offense and Dennis just gets to

733
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: focus on the defense to what it is now. So

734
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Speaker 1: I I still am. You have good players on your team.

735
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: You have a lot of stud players. Your defensive roster

736
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: is good. But we'll see. I'll take a wait and

737
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: see approach. I'm not saying you guys are gonna suck,

738
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: but I just don't think you're some lock playoff team.

739
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: Like I said, with the Baker situation, the money, that's

740
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: an all time regret for the Browns. But where is

741
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: he gonna go? What are they gonna do with him.

742
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: I think what ends up happening is he gets released

743
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: and um kind of go from there. But who knows

744
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: like that there there is not some lock team that

745
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: just makes a lot of sense with Baker Mayfield. Same

746
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: thing with Jimmy Garoppolo. Like I think there's a decent

747
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: chance unless they can somehow convinced Jimmy to be the backup.

748
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: But even then that gets a little weird. What have

749
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Trey Lance struggles and fans want to make the playoffs

750
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: chart screaming just put Jimmy back in the game. It's

751
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: kind of a tight rope to walk. I would probably

752
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: recommend you just gotta go. I mean, part of the

753
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: reason with Patrick Mahomes obviously turned out to be an

754
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: all time great player. They just gave him the keys

755
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: to the to the castle. Basically they got Alex out

756
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: of there, and and Alex still had a lot of

757
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: good football left before he got injured. But you just

758
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: Mac Jones last year, you cut Cam Newton. You have

759
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: to just give the guy the locker room. So to me,

760
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: even if it is an option, because you'd rather have

761
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: multiple quarterbacks in one quarterback, I I do think it's

762
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: a very very slippery slope and for the for the

763
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: best chance for success for Trey Lance, I think you

764
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: would just have to cut him. Worst case, I don't

765
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: know where're gonna be able to trade him twenty seven

766
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: million dollars. Who the hell even needs a quarterback? Uh?

767
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: The wide receiver drama. It's gonna be interesting, right the

768
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: forty Niners? I mean, are they able to sign Deebo?

769
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: Samuel Terry McLaurin. What does his contract look like? DK

770
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: metcalf who has been, you know, participating with Seattle. We

771
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: kind of know the the parameters of a given contract,

772
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: right Z J. Brown? If he's seven guaranteed a hundred

773
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: million dollars million dollars a year. I think all these

774
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: guys are in the ballpark and we'll we'll see the

775
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: next one that gets paid. But it does feel like

776
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: they're all going to get big money. Kay, Let's dive

777
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: into this little thing we call the middle Cough mail

778
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. You slide up

779
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: into those direct messages and you get your question answer

780
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: here on the show. I assume there are different levels

781
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: of scouts. How did you compare to say, Daniel Jeremiah

782
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: he seems to use a lot more verbiage. Scouts speak, fast, twitch,

783
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: tight hips, etc. Did you help find players or just

784
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: do more background information on them? Did Eagles put you

785
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: through a training course to learn from what they were

786
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: looking for? Well, let's start with the DJ thing. I

787
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think he you know, he is the

788
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: top draft analysts for NFL network, So I mean he

789
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: is like Mike Mayock was and Scott and Todd McShay

790
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: and Mel Kuyper like that is their gig to dive

791
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: deep into the draft prospects and ultimately this I I

792
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: consider this an entertainment product, probably much more surface level.

793
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm playing. I'm just not gonna dive as deep now.

794
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: When I worked in the NFL and wrote reports on players,

795
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: I spoke that language. I had the same verbagees tight hip,

796
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: to loosen the hips, change the direction, top end speed, whatever,

797
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: all the scouting terminology. I got a very very good

798
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: training ground with Coach Hill at Fresno State for two

799
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: years and learned a large percentage of a base of

800
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: the terminology how to evaluate. And then when I got

801
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: to the NFL, you just learn more and um, yeah,

802
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: you just kind of learned on the fly. Now. By

803
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: the time I got there, I had a relative base

804
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: of knowledge I learned. It's like, you know, I got

805
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: my undergraduate degree in football at for is No State,

806
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: and I got my PhD in football at in Philadelphia.

807
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: And I actually replaced DJ my third year when he

808
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: went to work at NFL Network and I took over

809
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: the West Coast. So I would just say that, you know,

810
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really more I'm trying to play to everybody.

811
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not diving in beside the big topics.

812
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't get that nerdy on like second, third, fourth

813
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: round players, right, It's just not really my thing. So

814
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: we just kind of played different roles. I would say, Hey, John,

815
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: question for you. I was listening to a podcast today

816
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: that had an economic uh an economist as a guest,

817
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: and they were talking about how hard it is to

818
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: pict successful quarterbacks in the draft. The link is below.

819
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: But the but the research seems to indicate is that

820
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: no one attribute for a quarterback is directly correlated with

821
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: their success, other than completion percentage in college. It's interesting,

822
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I can completely buy it.

823
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: It seems like arm strength and cognitive ability wonder lick, etc.

824
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: Would also be important and correlated to success anyway, Just

825
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: curious what are your top three attributes you find important

826
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: when evaluating a quarterback. Well, first and foremost, just to

827
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: be in the NFL mix, you have to have obviously

828
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Speaker 1: your Division one starter. I guess you could be a

829
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Speaker 1: Division one double, a starter like a Derrek Jimmy Garoppolo,

830
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: but for the most part, or Joe Flacca or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But you're a Division one starter, and you know, for

832
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: the most part, these guys are gonna be between six

833
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: one and a half. I mean, there are a couple

834
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: outliers in six five, and you're gonna be. You know,

835
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: the athletic spectrum is completely changed. You know, before you

836
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: didn't need to be athletic at all. I think now

837
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: you look for a little more athleticism and arm strength.

838
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: To me, I always like a stronger arm. But you

839
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: can get away with Philip Rivers Payton Manning if you're

840
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: really accurate. But I like strong arms. So just the

841
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: attributes of the player and obviously accurate. The intangible stuff,

842
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: to me really makes players right, how he is as

843
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: a teammate, how hard he works, how addicted he is

844
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: a football, how much he cares how much it means

845
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: to him, because the little things add up to big things.

846
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: And something that's like when when something is important, usually

847
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: a lot of things are important. And I think a

848
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks just have really really high standards

849
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: in their life. And I think that carries over to

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Speaker 1: the pressure that comes with being a starting quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. The pressure that your coach push on you,

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Speaker 1: your teammates put on you, that the city puts on you,

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Speaker 1: that the media puts on you. It's just it's very

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Speaker 1: very difficult. It's it's very very challenging. So I'm a

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Speaker 1: big believer in intangible stuff with quarterbacks. When you think

856
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks over the last however many decades, right,

857
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Now Mahomes, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: You see Herbert on the Come, Lamar Jackson. You know,

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Speaker 1: Aaron's a little different, but he's probably one of the

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00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: great talents of all time. Non football golf question for

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Speaker 1: the Pod. I love your take on the crypto markets.

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00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: I heard you mentioned you're all in on a d

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Speaker 1: A me too. Just wondering if you're averaging down on

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00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: the dips or just writing it out, I actually looked

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Speaker 1: and it was seventy five dollars a day, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I plan on making another purchase here in the next

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Speaker 1: forty hours. So it's I'm not trading for to flip

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Speaker 1: this money to double it in the next six months.

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Speaker 1: It's a big picture play. It's ugly out there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm down heavily in every market, just like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are. Uh, if you believed in it when

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Speaker 1: it was going up, to me, I don't see why

873
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe in it now when it's going down.

874
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: Because again, I believed in it as the future, as

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Speaker 1: something that's gonna work, and it might not work till

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Speaker 1: two but I I do believe. I haven't I I

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Speaker 1: understand what it is better than I'm able to explain

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00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: it to other people. But I do feel a pretty

879
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: strong um understanding of what it's going to be, or

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Speaker 1: at least in the realm of what it's gonna be,

881
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: and and I believe that's the future. So could I

882
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: be wrong? For sure? Sometimes industries are ahead of themselves

883
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: and they failed because they were almost too early. Obviously,

884
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: there's so much money in crypto now that's not necessarily

885
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Speaker 1: the case. But yes, I I plan on. I plan

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Speaker 1: on buying more at these prices for sure. And honestly,

887
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Speaker 1: I think that way in all of my holdings that

888
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I believe in big picture when something dips, and I

889
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: have several, you know, hold things that are down that

890
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: if you believe in the industry or you believe in

891
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: the company, and sometimes I believe in the industry more

892
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: than this specific company, and I'm just kind of betting hopefully,

893
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, I get it right, and I have before.

894
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: It's I mean, that's what venture capitalists do. Um, you know,

895
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Speaker 1: it pays off. Like everyone else in the d m S.

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Speaker 1: Love the show. I know you've been shipping on Netflix,

897
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: but if you haven't seen it, check out The Alpinist.

898
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: The guy on there. The guy was on a god

899
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Speaker 1: tier and it's an inspirational film. I've heard several people

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00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: mentioned this. I need to check that out. I'm not

901
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Speaker 1: shooting on Netflix. I actually think it's an it's a

902
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: revolutionary company. It's an all timer. Whether they peaked or

903
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Speaker 1: whether they get back to you know, the mountaintop, what

904
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Speaker 1: they did, what they stand for, and the word Netflix.

905
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Speaker 1: How it will resonate with people for the rest of

906
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: our Lives is incredible what they accomplished. Hat tip to

907
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: them now. I don't necessarily think they're done, but I

908
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's debatable that their content has dipped. It's

909
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: not as good. I think HBO Max runs circles around them. Honestly,

910
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: I found more success on Hulu. I'm not anti Netflix.

911
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: I just don't think their content has been that good.

912
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: I think their platform is truly pretty awesome. I think

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Speaker 1: the last Rock Star draft was oh six Liner Bush,

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00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Vince Mario, Vernon Davis. That was a pretty good one.

915
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I think the one two years ago with Trey Lance,

916
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: Mac Jones Justin Fields, that was that Bad Boys, pretty explosive.

917
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean that those those television ratings were pretty high.

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Speaker 1: Big fan of the pod. I appreciate you break down

919
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: at the NFL. Just wanted to comment on the Monday

920
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: podcast when you reference the ref the refs and politicians

921
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: are two jobs you can be wrong at and not

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Speaker 1: get fired. I would like to add in weatherman as

923
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Speaker 1: the other job that you can be wrong most of

924
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Speaker 1: the time and still keep your job. I live in Michigan,

925
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Speaker 1: so the weather is bipolar. Here. Have a great week.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny one benefit of living out West.

927
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Speaker 1: Our weather isn't really that crazy. So like if someone

928
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Speaker 1: says it's e d if they miss it's gonna be

929
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Speaker 1: seventy eight or eighty three, it's never like it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be eighty and it turns out torrential downpour thirty five. Now,

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Speaker 1: when I lived in Philly, I lived in Kansas City

932
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Speaker 1: during college for a couple of months. Those are crazy

933
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: weather places, so I can imagine getting very mad at

934
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Speaker 1: the weather man for often being way off our weather

935
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Speaker 1: men out here. Now, granted I never watched the weather Man.

936
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Speaker 1: I just checked my iPhone, but for the most part

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Speaker 1: it's pretty on. I'll give the credit to actually the

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Speaker 1: the iPhone weather app pretty good, which I think is

939
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Speaker 1: just connected to weather dot com. I'm confused as to

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Speaker 1: why you don't think the Saints can compete in the NFC.

941
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: You yourself said the NFC is wide open. True. As stated,

942
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Speaker 1: the Saints were five and two before Winston towards a c. L.

943
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Speaker 1: Winston was having a great year fourteen touchdowns, three picks.

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Speaker 1: We had to start Taysom Hill and Simeon the rest

945
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Speaker 1: of the season. Still somehow won nine games. If the

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Speaker 1: Rams take would have taken care of San Francisco the

947
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Speaker 1: last game, we would have been in the wild card spot. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton is gone, which I'm gonna I'm gonna stop

949
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: right there. That's a pretty big deal. Like if you

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Speaker 1: just remove Andy Reid, or you just remove you know,

951
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 1: just go around like Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVeigh. Even

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Speaker 1: if you pump in their replacement, like let's say Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan left tomorrow and Demiko Ryan took over, or even

954
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Robert Salid took over, that is not the same thing.

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Speaker 1: If Sean McVeigh would have gone to television and Raheem

956
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Speaker 1: Morris took over, I would not view the Rams the

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Speaker 1: same way. The head coach is very important, especially when

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Speaker 1: your head coach is the play caller. So your roster

959
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: is really good, and your defense has been excellent the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. And Jamis, I'll give him credit.

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Speaker 1: He he looked pretty good. You're five and two. You're right,

962
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: the stats were pretty good. But I mean Sean Payton,

963
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: so I I I can't look at you the same

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Speaker 1: with Dennis Allen. I am not saying your team doesn't

965
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Speaker 1: have a good roster. I'm not saying that if Dennis

966
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Speaker 1: Allen is just solid, you won't be okay. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I just who's helping out Jameis Winston. That's

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00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: my question. That was Sean Payton's job. Dennis Allen's a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach. I got a question for the mail bag.

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00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Is it not an unwritten rule that you don't trade

971
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: back during the draft with the Vision Rivals. I was

972
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: at my local watering hole screaming at the TV when

973
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Speaker 1: Minnesota traded back not once, but twice with the Vision

974
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Speaker 1: Rivals and Field. They got some pretty damn good players. Well,

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Speaker 1: when I trade, like let's say, let's say this, I

976
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Speaker 1: got Tyreek Hill and you are the Raiders and you

977
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Speaker 1: want Tyreek Hill. I would not trade you Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: even for your draft picks. Right. If I'm gonna trade

979
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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, I'm not gonna trade Khalil Mack when he

980
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: was on the Raiders to the Chargers or the Chief

981
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: or the Broncos. But when I trade draft picks, one,

982
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me who you're picking. And

983
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: two it's just about value. Like I said, it's just

984
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: an economic exercise. So when I trade, which I thought

985
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota's trade was terrible. How did last year the Bears

986
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: traded from twenty to eleven and had to give the

987
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: Giants a future first round pick get the Vikings traded

988
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: twelve to thirty two and didn't get a future one.

989
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: How's that possible? I don't care if you tell me

990
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: the draft picks they got added up to the equal value.

991
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. Twelve to thirty two, that

992
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: is an insane fallback. Now I I yeah, to me,

993
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: it's out the window. The Eagles and Cowboys made a

994
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: trade last year. I don't think it matters. You don't

995
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: trade players though, Like you wouldn't trade the Packers. Wouldn't

996
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: have traded Davante Adams to the Alliance or the Bears, right.

997
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: You wouldn't trade Tyree Kill to the Raiders. You wouldn't

998
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: trade DeForrest Buckner to the Rams or Seattle. But you

999
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: do do draft day trades with whoever because it's all

1000
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: just numbers. It's It's what I said, It's just it's

1001
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: just about value. Listen to the pod on the mail route.

1002
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: I listen every day. What are your thoughts on the

1003
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: Eagles two first round picks next year and an unsure quarterback.

1004
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: Do you think how he would trade the two first

1005
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: and hurt on a package for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, well,

1006
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, one of the picks is obviously the Saints,

1007
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: and the Saints fans think they're gonna be pretty good,

1008
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: and obviously the Eagles fans think they're gonna be pretty good.

1009
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: It's very possible that both those two teams compete to

1010
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: make the playoffs and are picking in the early twenties.

1011
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: I do not think Aaron Rodgers would play for the Eagles.

1012
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't have any inside information on that. It feels

1013
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: like he's either playing for the Packers are gonna retire.

1014
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles did that in case something gets weird,

1015
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: they have amo to trade up and get a, you know,

1016
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: one of the top quarterbacks next year. I think that

1017
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: would be the plan. You know, let's say the Saints again,

1018
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: Jamis gets hurt, Dennis Allen sucks, and they win six

1019
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: or seven games, and all of a sudden that picks

1020
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: ten or twelve and the Eagles pick is eighteen. Could

1021
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: you do ten in a teen and a future one

1022
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: to get c J. Stroud? To me, that's where the

1023
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: move came into play. I don't think necessarily Aaron Rodgers,

1024
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Speaker 1: because I don't think you would do that Aaron Rodgers

1025
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: thirty eight. That'd be pretty risky. Though. Obviously the Eagles

1026
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: would take Aaron Rodgers right now. But I just I

1027
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: have a hard time to me he's either going to

1028
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: retire or play for the Packers. Love the pod. My

1029
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: name is Nate Harris. I just recently retired from minor

1030
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: league baseball this past year. I've started a podcast on

1031
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: my own baseball related I'm curious if you had any

1032
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: tips on how to grow the following get the pot

1033
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: in front of more people. Again. Love what you do.

1034
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: Huge Cowboy fan, NFL fan in general, I appreciate that.

1035
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: Congrats on a minor league baseball career. I'm dead serious.

1036
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool accomplishment. You got to play pro baseball.

1037
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: Not many people get to uh play sports past high school,

1038
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: and you got to do it probably in college definitely. Well,

1039
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: I guess in baseball you could go right from high school,

1040
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: but you got to do at the professional level. That's

1041
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: hat tip. I would say your best avenues right now

1042
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: are to use social media, and to me, Twitter is

1043
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: a good avenue just to get people to see it

1044
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily turn into more listeners, but it does get eyeballs. TikTok.

1045
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm not on too. I guess I have a TikTok.

1046
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: I don't use it, but it's pretty big time like

1047
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: it gets in front of people, and maybe do some

1048
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: baseball TikTok's and to me, YouTube and Instagram as well.

1049
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: That to me is your best. Everything you post, put

1050
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: it on those, put it on YouTube, put it on Instagram.

1051
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: Started TikTok. That's a freeway, doesn't cost you any money

1052
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: and it's relatively easy to load. Then listen to you

1053
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of years from England and I'm a

1054
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: big fan. I have heard you talk many times about

1055
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: the sport is king and obviously as the NFL. As

1056
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: a big English Premier League fan, do you think it

1057
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: could be as big in America as baseball, basketball and football.

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Speaker 1: I've heard you talk a couple of times about football,

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Speaker 1: a K soccer. If you ever want any more info,

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Speaker 1: let me know. I think it's hard. When I went

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Speaker 1: to Europe for a couple of months when I was

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Speaker 1: in like my junior in college. Over the summer I

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Speaker 1: stayed in Spain and I just remember kids five years old,

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Speaker 1: eight years old, twelve years old. Soccer balls were everywhere

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Speaker 1: when you just walk down the street. It's a huge

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Speaker 1: part of your culture. If you just walk around in America,

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Speaker 1: what do you see? Baseball diamonds, basketball hoops, people playing

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Speaker 1: football in the park, football practice, right every high school

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Speaker 1: you go by, you see those three things. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: see soccer goals there too. But I just think it's

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Speaker 1: entrenched in our culture, right we are just we grew

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Speaker 1: up on those major sports, just like over in Europe.

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Speaker 1: You know, you grew up in the UK and Spain

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Speaker 1: and Italy soccer, Germany soccer's life. It's it's part of

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Speaker 1: the ethos of ever human being, which is cool. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever get that here, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't even think it's possible, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Do you know who Alex is? Yeah? I know, Alex

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Speaker 1: Oveskan is one of the greatest hockey players of all time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for real takes and not sugarcoating through the topics.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Wyoming Wyoming boy and a die hard Dallas fan.

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Speaker 1: This week, Stephen Jones said there are no must going

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00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: into the draft as a fantasy as a fanatic that

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: bothers me. Makes me feel like there is no urgency

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Speaker 1: to win now while we still have some nice weapons,

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00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: nice young weapons and two nice running backs. Is the

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Speaker 1: Jones family being the front office our biggest blessing and

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: our biggest downfall. We'll let me defend any team who's

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Speaker 1: talks before the draft. I don't think you're giving away anything, right.

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Speaker 1: So if if if Steven Jones would have said our

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: number one goal is to get a quarter, every team

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Speaker 1: in the league would be like, well, they're taking a

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: corner in the first two rounds, so if they take

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00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: if you want to get a corner and they're about

1095
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: to draft, you have to jump them. So I to me,

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00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: it's part of the poker of this thing. Like, what's

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00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: he supposed to say? You know, I don't think he

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Speaker 1: actually believes that, but I think it's a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: A big fan of three and Out, been listening. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you ever start a merch line, please make sure

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00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: you have the shirt with the phrase let's call a

1102
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: spade to spade. My question for you, how do you

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00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: see your three and Out podcast developing as you continue

1104
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: to grow? Do you have specific goals plans? In mind,

1105
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: or are you just riding the wave and not fixing

1106
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: something that isn't broke? This is my mom Uh, you

1107
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: know people ask me that's so every once in a while.

1108
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm not anti goals or not being goal oriented, but

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Speaker 1: I just I'm pretty tunnel vision, just kind of going

1110
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Speaker 1: month a month and just working as hard as I can,

1111
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Speaker 1: putting out as many shows as I can. I'm not

1112
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Speaker 1: like in three years because part of it is there's

1113
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: not necessarily a goal to be had. I want to

1114
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Speaker 1: get as many people to listen. I want to make

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Speaker 1: as much money as possible. I want to entertain as

1116
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Speaker 1: many people as possible. I want to do stuff that

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Speaker 1: people like. Like it's cool when people tell me they

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00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: enjoy listening, Like that's that's a good feeling, right. Um.

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Speaker 1: I want to be a place where people enjoy to go.

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Speaker 1: And if more and more people enjoy to go, then

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Speaker 1: things go well for me. So I beside that I

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Speaker 1: can't really expand on the show keeps going well, we

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Speaker 1: all do well. So that's pretty much my only goal

1124
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Speaker 1: is to stay pretty focused on this. Uh, just keep

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Speaker 1: doing the show. Lifelong Lions fan, I don't understand the

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00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: hate Aidan Hutchinson is getting Why are members of the

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00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: media saying he's not a high seedling Pro Bowl talent.

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Speaker 1: When I watch him, I see someone with a high

1129
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Speaker 1: motor who, by all accounts is addicted to the football.

1130
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Speaker 1: Why has the media written him off from being great? Um,

1131
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, I think sometimes when

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Speaker 1: you're a white pass rusher not named Bosa, I mean

1133
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: there's probably a little something that short arm. Yeah, I mean,

1134
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Speaker 1: you gotta pick on somebody. I just think part of

1135
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Speaker 1: being a high, highly touted prospect in any draft, they

1136
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Speaker 1: kind of pick you apart, you know. I mean it

1137
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Speaker 1: happens to the quarterbacks. Every year we were we were

1138
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: crushing justin fields getting picked apart. Last year, Mac Jones

1139
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: is getting picked apart. Last year, Trey Lances getting picked apart.

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Speaker 1: Last year, Trevor Lawrence was getting crushed this year. You know,

1141
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Speaker 1: it's just we don't pick apart fifth round players, Right.

1142
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Speaker 1: This is the difference. When the guy asked me, a

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Speaker 1: difference between you and DJ. Like I spend most of

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Speaker 1: my time talking about the top guys. DJ is much

1145
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: more into the weeds, second, third, fourth, He's approaching it

1146
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Speaker 1: like he still works in the NFL. I approach it

1147
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: like I'm just here to entertain the most people possible.

1148
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna end up talking Aidan Hutchinson, Cavon Thibodeaux

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Speaker 1: the entire time. And it's just when you're a highly

1150
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Speaker 1: touted prospect, whether you're Jamaar Chase, whether you're Micah Parsons,

1151
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Speaker 1: whether you're Aidan Hutsson. There you're not gonna be a

1152
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: perfect prospect. So when you're not a perfect prospect, we're

1153
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna end up talking about your laws more than your positives,

1154
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Speaker 1: which can be unfair in which I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of times why teams miss on players, and it's probably

1156
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Speaker 1: not totally fair, but it's just part of the business,

1157
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Speaker 1: and it's it's the way they talk in the draft rooms.

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Speaker 1: It's the way we obviously talked here on this show.

1159
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: It's the way most fans talk when a guy has

1160
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Speaker 1: struggles at something. Now, I'm with you. When I watched

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Speaker 1: Michigan last year, he was typically the best player on

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Speaker 1: the field. He was a complete ass kicker. He went

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Speaker 1: to overall, let's here's the other thing. Let's not act

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Speaker 1: like he he went to he went to when you

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Speaker 1: meet Aton Hudson for the rest of his life, whether

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Speaker 1: he has success or he fails. Yeah, I played in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Oh you did? How how do you make

1168
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Speaker 1: it there? Yeah? I played in Michigan and then was

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Speaker 1: selected second overall. I guess it was a down draft,

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Speaker 1: but second overall, that's a pretty he. I'd say he's

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Speaker 1: pretty highly valued second overall. And if he wouldn't been picked,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine the Texans would have pick him at three.

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Speaker 1: So I think sometimes, you know, they got Nippick, but

1174
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Speaker 1: even came on, he went five. Stingley, Oh, Stingley has

1175
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: that a good year? In two Tuesday went three. Like

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Speaker 1: these guys all went pretty damn high. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: end there. Um my dinner ordered door Dash should be

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Speaker 1: arriving here pretty pretty soon. And I was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make a healthy meal, and then I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty I just gonna wear some food. Have a good

1181
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Speaker 1: week well. The golf podcast coming out Wednesday. PGA Championship

1182
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Speaker 1: in two weeks, no big deal, a little golf major,

1183
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: A little Warrior game Thursday Tuesday when the Warriors play

1184
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: next Tuesday. I love a good Warrior game. Audios, talk

1185
01:02:44,840 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: to everyone soon, peace, say up, it's A Sad and Sad.

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Speaker 1: The volume