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Speaker 3: Hi Jeff, Hi Susie, very much looking forward to the
Speaker 3: season five.
Speaker 2: You know it might be my favorite season of all
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: It's one of I know what you're saying, and these
Speaker 3: two episodes are sort of like they're not even a
Speaker 3: run up from the middle of the season on is
Speaker 3: amazing and maybe our favorite scene ever in the history
Speaker 3: of Kreb coming up.
Speaker 4: So here we are on season five, episode one, the
Speaker 4: Larry David Send Witch Yes, and it starts off with
Speaker 4: Larry's women in the ocean having a somewhat near death experience,
Speaker 4: having a near death experience.
Speaker 2: He's drowning and he stumbles onto the beach.
Speaker 3: I want to say, the drowning scene is very.
Speaker 4: Believable, very believable, shot beautifully and that must have not
Speaker 4: been fun to shoot for him.
Speaker 3: If there's a bigger sport that I've ever worked with
Speaker 3: in show business, I don't know them.
Speaker 4: Because you had a scene. Is it in this season? No,
Speaker 4: it's in a later season where you had to go
Speaker 4: into the ocean.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah with the statue of Well,
Speaker 3: I'm saying statue of Liberty because we filmed where Charlton
Speaker 3: Heston at the end of the Planet of the Apes
Speaker 3: looks up and says, no, you know, it's the statue
Speaker 3: of Liberty. God, but that's exactly where we filmed.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that right at point doom over there.
Speaker 3: You know who pointed out to me was David Bendell. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because he and I are freaks for that stupid shit.
Speaker 3: All right, keep going.
Speaker 4: So Larry's having his drowning and then he stumbles on
Speaker 4: to the beach and we hear him telling the story
Speaker 4: at a party and he's talking about that he had
Speaker 4: a near death experience and.
Speaker 5: Somewhere I'm not even I'm not religious at all, I said,
Speaker 5: God help me, and I'm deposited right right on the beach.
Speaker 5: I went swimming that day. For some reason, something drew
Speaker 5: me to the water.
Speaker 3: Why, I don't know.
Speaker 5: You know, sounds like like a baby drawn to the nipple,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? You know, an adult drawn
Speaker 5: to the nipple get away?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: You know what I think is that divine intervention?
Speaker 4: Is that not divine intervention?
Speaker 2: I think I think this happened for a reason.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I think so too.
Speaker 3: It happened for a reason.
Speaker 6: Now, maybe you'll start to be more respectful to people,
Speaker 6: treat people better, respectful to people, Larry whatever, I very.
Speaker 3: Nice to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a divine intervention. And suddenly he's very spiritual.
Speaker 4: And we're sitting there, you and I are sitting with
Speaker 4: a bunch of other people extras listening to this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're questioning. I don't think I say anything
Speaker 3: in that scene by choice, but you.
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, Larry, maybe this happened for
Speaker 2: a reason.
Speaker 4: Maybe you'll be more respectful of people in the future.
Speaker 4: And we do a toast to life, and then he's
Speaker 4: with you privately and he asks you about going to
Speaker 4: Temple for the high holidays, and the irony of course
Speaker 4: that we're recording this today on Russia Shana.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tonight it begins Russia Shana.
Speaker 7: That was for Russia Shana too, right, I think it
Speaker 7: was young Kapoor okay, and he wants to go to
Speaker 7: Temple and you tell him it's a tough ticket to get,
Speaker 7: but you're going to make some calls.
Speaker 4: And then he tells you that at Leo's Deli they
Speaker 4: have named a sandwich after him. There is the Larry
Speaker 4: David Sandwich. It's whitefish, sable, capers, onions, and cream cheese.
Speaker 2: And he says it's a disgusting sandwich. I think it
Speaker 2: sounds good.
Speaker 3: The only thing that I wouldn't like and there is
Speaker 3: the capers.
Speaker 4: I'm not a cap I wouldn't like the onions, but
Speaker 4: that's kind of a no no.
Speaker 3: By the way. Also, I don't like onions, but I
Speaker 3: would let that live.
Speaker 2: But I love whitefish and I love sable.
Speaker 3: It's designed pre love making, so you're bloated.
Speaker 2: And have horrible breath.
Speaker 4: I don't think anything gives you worse bread than whitefish.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, sable, any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: But I love whitefish.
Speaker 3: If you're going to Barney greenngrass, you know, be prepared
Speaker 3: to go home and brush your teeth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for several hours and several days. But it's delicious.
Speaker 2: It's delicious. We love Barney Green Grass.
Speaker 3: But you'll be eating that type of stuff tonight.
Speaker 4: But Larry thinks it's a disgusting sandwich. When he says that, well,
Speaker 4: that's a taste thing. I don't think it's a disgusting sandwich.
Speaker 4: Then he's drinking coffee out of a little dainty little
Speaker 4: teacup with a dainty little handle, and he shows you
Speaker 4: the dainty little handle, and you walk away, and the
Speaker 4: kid bumps into Larry and he spills the coffee all
Speaker 4: over the place, and the kid then lies and says
Speaker 4: he didn't bump in, by.
Speaker 3: The way, perfect casting for that kid.
Speaker 2: That kid was terrific.
Speaker 3: I wanted to kill him. I know.
Speaker 2: He shows up later on and he was terrific later
Speaker 2: on as well.
Speaker 4: And then Larry wants to go, and I object to
Speaker 4: this because we car pulled with that.
Speaker 3: Carpooled, which is a very funny runner. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think even in that moment, if we didn't repeat it,
Speaker 3: that is just funny on its own, because that's a
Speaker 3: premise that I'm sure many people have gone through where
Speaker 3: you're the driving people you want to leave, other people
Speaker 3: don't want to leave. Well, now there's Uber.
Speaker 2: So now there's Uber.
Speaker 4: They didn't think Uber really changed my life living in
Speaker 4: La not so much New York because we always had
Speaker 4: cams everywhere. But in La Uber really changed my life
Speaker 4: that I didn't have to worry about driving everywhere.
Speaker 3: By the way, whenever I go to the comedy store
Speaker 3: or the improver of the laugh Factory, parking is such
Speaker 3: a pain in the ass that if I'm going to
Speaker 3: go do a set, i'd take an over.
Speaker 2: Take an Uber. It's not far from your house.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And also, you and I don't drink, so that's not
Speaker 4: an issue, but for drinkers it's a huge, huge thing.
Speaker 3: Don't drink, don't smoke. What do I do?
Speaker 2: You laugh?
Speaker 3: I laugh?
Speaker 4: I just woke up from a nap. Actually, I'm a
Speaker 4: little I'm a little bleary eyed. So then you know
Speaker 4: I'm upset with them that they leave whatever. And then
Speaker 4: we cut to Larry and Cheryl are having sex.
Speaker 2: Don't answer that.
Speaker 5: Actually that might be Jeff going about the temple.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 5: No, this is kind of important though.
Speaker 2: Well I'll call back, No, really, just try and find out.
Speaker 8: Hello, Hey, hey, I made some calls, but no go
Speaker 8: on the tickets.
Speaker 5: Oh the bummer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: You know what, you can always try for a scalper.
Speaker 5: Really, they got scalper tickets they usually do.
Speaker 8: Huh yeah, expensive, I have no idea. All right, I'll
Speaker 8: get some scalper tickets, get some scalper ticket. I'll just
Speaker 8: go down there and try and get some. Yeah, okay, thanks.
Speaker 3: For I'll talk to you later. Well, let me say
Speaker 3: something here, okay, because I know what I know. No,
Speaker 3: I'm very uncomfortable with that scene. I wouldn't even be
Speaker 3: in the room. I just Larry and Cheryl having sex
Speaker 3: is like you and although we do do funny ones
Speaker 3: with you and.
Speaker 2: I as you're never serious.
Speaker 3: No, they're hilariously off. Anytime you and I have been together,
Speaker 3: it's funny, I think with normal circumstances, like they're making
Speaker 3: love and it's interrupted. I'm so uncomfortable with Larry and
Speaker 3: Cheryl making love.
Speaker 4: I understand. Yeah, it's not really a comedy premise. No,
Speaker 4: but this works for a reason because there's a reason
Speaker 4: why I can't to.
Speaker 3: It, which I get. But there's a little too much
Speaker 3: moaning for my time.
Speaker 2: Call me mister Timbs.
Speaker 3: By the way, the only time that I ever had
Speaker 3: sex was actually off camera with Catherine O'Hara. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we recorded that laundry room. But me standing in front
Speaker 3: of my one of my idols, true idols, moaning and
Speaker 3: fuck me fat man and all that fat boy as
Speaker 3: all that going back. No, it was it was like
Speaker 3: I was having fun shore so was she because there
Speaker 3: is nothing sexual.
Speaker 2: We're left and you were fully clothed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so nobody wants to see me having sex. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of.
Speaker 4: Women want to sit free or me, you know, And
Speaker 4: I have no interest in having sex with anyone on camera.
Speaker 3: Well no, why would you? But the point is, you know,
Speaker 3: every time Larry and I go out to dinner, although
Speaker 3: not now because he's married and people know it, but
Speaker 3: before he was married, we'd be at a restaurant in
Speaker 3: New York and he would go to the bathroom. This
Speaker 3: is This happened numerous times. He'd go to the restroom
Speaker 3: and then women would hand me his number, their number
Speaker 3: to give to him. I mean so much. So I
Speaker 3: know a lot of women have crushes on him.
Speaker 4: I once said a woman she waited for hours for
Speaker 4: me at the dressing room to give me a letter
Speaker 4: to give to Larry David.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh my own mind.
Speaker 4: And she just said to me she was very Jewish
Speaker 4: about his age, a little overweight, you know whatever.
Speaker 3: At end you're wearing two questions? Did she have a beard?
Speaker 3: And was she wearing an Abe Lincoln hat? And would
Speaker 3: you refer to her as a handsome woman?
Speaker 4: She was not unattractive, but there was not a handsome woman,
Speaker 4: but not an ugly woman.
Speaker 3: Because, by the way, not ugly, but unattractive women who
Speaker 3: really take care of themselves. Everyone calls them a handsome.
Speaker 2: One, handsome a handsome one.
Speaker 4: But anyway, she comes up to me and she says,
Speaker 4: can you please give this letter to Larry? And I
Speaker 4: just know that we're meant to be, It's just meant
Speaker 4: to be, that we're supposed to be together, and he's
Speaker 4: my soulmate and blah blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. And I said, horrible. I said, I
Speaker 2: will pass it along, and it's scary.
Speaker 4: Shit took the letter and I and it was like
Speaker 4: it was so nothing that Larry would ever be interested.
Speaker 4: You know, the worst comes to worse meet me for
Speaker 4: a knish.
Speaker 2: It was like so overly jewish.
Speaker 3: By the way, did you ever tell Larry?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course we laughed about it. Yeah, I sent
Speaker 2: him the letter.
Speaker 3: So then she was she wasn't scary.
Speaker 4: She wasn't scary, but she truly believed that they were
Speaker 4: meant to be together, and I just knew that there
Speaker 4: is no way he would ever be in the slightest
Speaker 4: interested in him. And what she thought he was is
Speaker 4: not who he was, you know, she has some idea
Speaker 4: of him. And then he would tell me how when
Speaker 4: he was doing Fish in the Dark, his Broadway play,
Speaker 4: they would wait for him at the stage door they
Speaker 4: was stage George Janey's instead of stage door Johnny's, and
Speaker 4: they would invite him for shopas dinner and all of
Speaker 4: this kind of stuff, and nothing would be less interesting
Speaker 4: to him than that anyway. So he's having sex with
Speaker 4: Cheryl and the phone rings. Now I don't know about you,
Speaker 4: but I agree with Cheryl on this one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, it's not even up for discussion.
Speaker 3: This is for comedic purposes, of course. No, you don't
Speaker 3: answer phe And also that was a time like I
Speaker 3: don't have a hard line. Do you have a hard
Speaker 3: line in your house?
Speaker 4: I do, Okay, I have your line in my house
Speaker 4: because we have bad reception here cel research, okay, but.
Speaker 3: In the city, you don't have a heart line. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's all. So basically it's another time and by the way,
Speaker 3: as often as I can, my whole phone is silent.
Speaker 3: I don't know when I get a text, I don't
Speaker 3: know anything. I don't want to hear it. But also
Speaker 3: I'm apt to turn my ringer off quite often, which
Speaker 3: to lead the problems.
Speaker 4: Not only do I not allow Jimmy to answer the
Speaker 4: phone during sex, he's not allowed to answer it during dinner.
Speaker 4: I don't even want the phone on the fucking table
Speaker 4: what we're having dinner.
Speaker 3: That is completely correct. I'm with you, yes, be present.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this excuse is such a bullshit
Speaker 2: of excuse.
Speaker 4: He has to answer because it might be Jeff calling
Speaker 4: about the temple tickets, Like he couldn't talk to you
Speaker 4: about that twenty minutes later when they were done or
Speaker 4: an hour later. No, it's a bit goof anyway, So
Speaker 4: Larry says, it might be Jeff calling about the temple tickets.
Speaker 4: I have to answer, and it is Jeff calling about
Speaker 4: the temple tickets, and Jeff tells him no, go couldn't
Speaker 4: get the tickets.
Speaker 2: Try for a check a scalper, Try for a scalper.
Speaker 3: By the way, I think any funny Jewish comedian had
Speaker 3: that joke in.
Speaker 2: Their arsenal about a scalper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when it's sold out, Yam Kapoor. I used
Speaker 3: to make jokes about if there was a scalper out
Speaker 3: there right by the rabbi, right by the canter, and
Speaker 3: here we do it in the show. But I don't
Speaker 3: think the way Larry did it, I do think is
Speaker 3: original because he acts there actually was a scalper and
Speaker 3: how they negotiate.
Speaker 2: I never heard of a scalper for high hold.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, it's a joke, but I'm
Speaker 3: saying I thought of that that there should be a
Speaker 3: scalpers outside.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't really exist. It's never been temple.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure there's temple members who maybe sell it
Speaker 3: to other temple members or even for a profit. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: Can you get it on stub Hub?
Speaker 3: I would not say stub hub, but Larry was the
Speaker 3: first one to actually play it out and it was hysterical.
Speaker 4: And what the other thing I noticed you mentioned hardline
Speaker 4: is that both you and Larry are in hard lines
Speaker 4: in that scene.
Speaker 3: Well, it's amazing how much the world has changed.
Speaker 2: That was two thousand and I think for six.
Speaker 3: So that's twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and then Cheryl says, get off me, really nasty,
Speaker 4: and she's pissed, and Larry goes, oh, mustn't interrupt the
Speaker 4: sacred intercourse, the sacred intercourse and carries.
Speaker 3: On which, by the way, I love what he does.
Speaker 2: I love that stuff too. It's so funny. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: so funny. And it's true.
Speaker 4: You know, there's especially when you're married, and it's not
Speaker 4: like you're just like every now and then you get
Speaker 4: to have sex.
Speaker 2: You can have sex whenever you want when you're married.
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if you live alone, sure, but do you want
Speaker 3: to have sex all the time? If you do good
Speaker 3: for you? I'm a good two times a week.
Speaker 2: But that's not my point.
Speaker 4: Is him talking about the sacred intercourse?
Speaker 3: I know, I know that's funny though, Yeah, y, yes,
Speaker 3: you can do it anytime you want.
Speaker 2: Which takes away a little bit from it.
Speaker 4: Then we are, well, it takes a you know, it's
Speaker 4: something is always more exciting when it's not readily accessible.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'll make myself not readily.
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, play hard to get Oh boy, we'll be
Speaker 4: right back.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're back then, we are at Leo's Deli and
Speaker 4: he's there with Nat, not his father, Shelley Berman, who
Speaker 4: plays his father. And Nat loves the sandwich, loves the sandwich.
Speaker 2: This is some sandwich.
Speaker 4: And he tells him it's the first time he's really
Speaker 4: felled over him, which is a really sad thing to
Speaker 4: me that here's this man who created this, you know,
Speaker 4: the greatest sitcom in the history of television, and yet
Speaker 4: his father is first felling over him over a fucking
Speaker 4: whitefish sandwich. You know, he's proud, he's everything, and Larry
Speaker 4: doesn't like it, and Nats keeps on saying him, you mumble,
Speaker 4: you mumble.
Speaker 2: I can't understand.
Speaker 3: By the way, can I say something? Watching all these episodes,
Speaker 3: I'm in awe of Shelley's talent. He just dove into
Speaker 3: that character. He did, and he was that character. And
Speaker 3: that's not the way he talked off screen, you know,
Speaker 3: close but not. That wasn't it. And he also wore
Speaker 3: a piece a hair piece, you know. He told me
Speaker 3: that if the garbage man rang his bell, he'd goes.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that he that he was on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he was perfect casting.
Speaker 3: I'll talk about it more later and then.
Speaker 4: Leo comes up. Leo is played by Edo Ross and
Speaker 4: Leo is a big guy and he gives Larry a big,
Speaker 4: big bear hug and he shakes.
Speaker 2: His hand and he hurts his hand. You like it?
Speaker 4: And Larry says, eh, in that Larry way, Eh, what
Speaker 4: does eh?
Speaker 2: And Larry's I'm not a big fish guy? Can I
Speaker 2: get up pastrami? And what about tongue? And he wants
Speaker 2: to switch with Ted Danson and Larry sits down. He says,
Speaker 2: that guy almost broke my hand with that shake.
Speaker 3: You don't whisper to me, please, I said, he.
Speaker 2: Almost broke my hand with that handshake.
Speaker 3: You know, a little time once in a while, if
Speaker 3: you're if you're pledging to people, what's the matter? Make
Speaker 3: a drink of water.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden Nat is choking and we
Speaker 2: see something's wrong with him. It looks like he's having
Speaker 2: a stroke.
Speaker 4: And then we see the EMTs are there and Larry's
Speaker 4: gonna go follow the empts, but he runs back and
Speaker 4: grabs a huge handful of mintce.
Speaker 3: No, I don't understand what was all because of the sandwich, right,
Speaker 3: I Because when I was watching I was so confused.
Speaker 3: Why is he grabbing the.
Speaker 2: Mints because of the sandwich and his father's been wheeled out,
Speaker 2: So I'm a bit confused.
Speaker 3: He didn't eat the sandwich.
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, It didn't make complete sense
Speaker 2: to me either.
Speaker 4: But part of it is that Leo sees him take
Speaker 4: the mince, because Leo started to get pissed at him. Yes,
Speaker 4: and he sees him take the mince. Then Larry is
Speaker 4: in the hospital. He's talking to the doctor. I forgot
Speaker 4: the actor who plays the doctor, but he was terrific.
Speaker 4: What's his name, Tina Louise, Tina Louise. And then the
Speaker 4: doctor tells him that his father had a mild stroke,
Speaker 4: but he's going to be fined.
Speaker 2: It will require some surgery.
Speaker 4: And Larry tells the doctor about the sandwich and that
Speaker 4: he can't stand the sandwich and he wants to know
Speaker 4: did the sandwich cause the stroke? And the doctor says
Speaker 4: it's possible if a little bit got stuck and he's choking,
Speaker 4: it could have raised his blood pressure and caused the stroke.
Speaker 4: And then the doctor tells Larry a big fan of
Speaker 4: Seinfeld and because he loves Larry so much and he's
Speaker 4: such a big fan, he's going to do the surgery himself,
Speaker 4: and he's also a golfer.
Speaker 2: We find out.
Speaker 3: That's when we fade out because we know what's coming.
Speaker 4: Of course, do do do? And then Larry is at
Speaker 4: NAT's bedside and he's complaining about the sandwich, and Larry's like,
Speaker 4: what stinks? So you want to mint? So maybe that's
Speaker 4: where the mints come in. The other thing is Jeff.
Speaker 4: You know, because this is so long ago, we don't
Speaker 4: always remember what might have been cut out that would
Speaker 4: have been explanatory.
Speaker 3: It wasn't bad in that season. Later seasons, to me,
Speaker 3: we had to cut. I think we could every episode
Speaker 3: add ten minutes, but I like cutting it down. But
Speaker 3: we could easily. There's ten minutes of really good story.
Speaker 2: Well, in later episodes, you know, they were much longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, this is still when it was.
Speaker 4: His early episodes were solid thirty later on that changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then Matt is trying to speak and he's having
Speaker 4: difficulty and he calls Larry close.
Speaker 5: Sir, adopted, adopted.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm adopted to leave the room. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: now okay, gonna have to leave. Now, let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm adopted come on.
Speaker 4: I was like, what what, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor.
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm adopted. And then you see he's like
Speaker 4: getting thrilled.
Speaker 2: I'm adopted. I've adopted. And then the nurse tells him
Speaker 2: he has to leave, and Larry's giddy.
Speaker 4: He's running down the hallway I'm adopted, I'm adopted, which
Speaker 4: I think is such a funny scene. How happy he
Speaker 4: is to hear that he's Most people would be devastated
Speaker 4: to find it that were adopted. He was thrilled to
Speaker 4: find out he was adopted. And next he's with you.
Speaker 4: We're at a sitcom rehearsal. You and Larry are off
Speaker 4: stage and it's a sitcom rehearsal. TEDI is rehearsing a
Speaker 4: new pilot that he's shooting, and Larry is telling you
Speaker 4: he always suspected he had nothing in common with these people.
Speaker 4: The only thing he had in common with them was
Speaker 4: his penmanship, which I.
Speaker 3: Laughed when we filmed it. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 3: I laugh.
Speaker 2: He does look like his father. I mean, you know, no, no.
Speaker 3: No, But for the purpose of the season, he thinks
Speaker 3: he's adopted, which is great.
Speaker 2: Yes, And Jeff says, maybe you're not adopted.
Speaker 4: He just lost oxygen because of the stroke and he
Speaker 4: didn't know what he was saying. And Larry's like, don't
Speaker 4: ruin this for me because he's so far away.
Speaker 3: Is the truth?
Speaker 2: Of course it's the truth?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: And also it's such a flimsy premise because he's not
Speaker 4: really sure he said he was a I mean, I
Speaker 4: love the storyline, but he's not really sure.
Speaker 3: Well, he has to investigated. He's hopeful's hopeful.
Speaker 2: He's so hopeful.
Speaker 4: He's so hopeful that these nutty people were not his parents,
Speaker 4: the mother with the tattoo on her ass and.
Speaker 3: That, you know, but come on, penmanship is what he is.
Speaker 3: The through line.
Speaker 2: Only Larry would think of that, well.
Speaker 3: Only Larry would think of a lot of things.
Speaker 4: And then Ted comes over and Larry can't shake his
Speaker 4: hand because his hand hurts, and then take complaints about
Speaker 4: the pilot and Larry tells him about the sandwich and.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm on the board. I'm on the board.
Speaker 4: And then you know, we find out Ted doesn't go
Speaker 4: in there that often, and Larry's like, I'm not a
Speaker 4: fish guy.
Speaker 2: Would you like to switch? And he says, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not a fish guy.
Speaker 4: I'd like to eat my own sandwich, and Ted says, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: of course I'll switch. Then he says, what's what's the sandwich?
Speaker 3: Just so if anyone asks me, what's in my new sandwich?
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, it's you got whitefish, you know, white fish, whitefish,
Speaker 5: whitefish and sable. What is sable?
Speaker 3: A fish? Whitefish? Smoke fish?
Speaker 5: Smoke fish? Yet you have two fish fish? Yeah, but
Speaker 5: they blend very well together. They're like Siamese twins, whitefish
Speaker 5: and sable. What else is in no condiments?
Speaker 3: Cream cheese?
Speaker 2: There's some cream cheese.
Speaker 3: It's tapers.
Speaker 5: There may be some capers.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. If you don't like him, you can
Speaker 3: brush them off. That's not a big deal. Onions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're very funny in this scene.
Speaker 2: Very but in a very minimalistic way, very minimalistic.
Speaker 4: It's it's like this, it goes white fish, sable, two fishes,
Speaker 4: and then you're like cream cheese, capers, onions. You keep
Speaker 4: on it, making it worse and worse innocently.
Speaker 3: But capers and the worst. But what I I love
Speaker 3: And over the years it hasn't happened very much. And
Speaker 3: I think he even cut a scene in the hour
Speaker 3: special if I'm not mistaken, where he screams at me.
Speaker 3: He screams at me a couple of times in the show,
Speaker 3: and I always thought it was funny. He didn't like it.
Speaker 3: But when he gives me dirty looks, which didn't happen
Speaker 3: enough for me over the course of the show, I
Speaker 3: think it's hilarious when he's frustrated.
Speaker 4: And this is one scene and then Ted says that
Speaker 4: sounds awful, and Ted's his mine's Turkey coastlow Russian dressing.
Speaker 2: It's a classic, you know.
Speaker 4: Now it's herring and you had again Capers and onions
Speaker 4: like you're coulless, You're completely clueless to what's going on
Speaker 4: in this scene. AND's like it's not Harry and and
Speaker 4: Ted's like one tastes good, one sucks and he refuses
Speaker 4: to switch the sandwiches and again, you know, like Caper's and.
Speaker 2: It's very funny. Made me laugh. Next we are in
Speaker 2: Temple and the scalpers there. Who is Paul Ben Victor.
Speaker 3: Bu But he's a great actor.
Speaker 2: Great actor. He was in season two of The Wire.
Speaker 3: I was just about to say that that was the
Speaker 3: doc worker. One, yes, Yes, and my friend Chris Is
Speaker 3: in that episode, who I think played the foreman of
Speaker 3: the doc.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: Okay, actually not my favorite season of The Wire. I
Speaker 4: thought it went off the track there on that season.
Speaker 4: But I love Paul ben Victor. I think he's a
Speaker 4: terrific actor.
Speaker 3: And we will agree to disagree about that season of
Speaker 3: The Wire.
Speaker 2: He liked.
Speaker 3: No No, I like every season.
Speaker 2: Well, I love the show.
Speaker 3: Last season or the Wire was the one with the
Speaker 3: kids the school stuff.
Speaker 2: Well that's how I felt. I felt like it went
Speaker 2: off track.
Speaker 3: No no, but that wasn't actual for me. A perfect season
Speaker 3: like that was so moving and interesting. But every The Wire,
Speaker 3: by the way, I can honestly say my all time
Speaker 3: favorite team.
Speaker 4: And I would tell our viewers if you haven't seen it,
Speaker 4: watch it.
Speaker 2: It holds up, it holds up, brilliant.
Speaker 3: It's brilliant. I mean, thank God, David Simon, God bless
Speaker 3: you man. Great work.
Speaker 2: It stays with you that show. It's a very moving show.
Speaker 4: Okay, back to Paul ben Victor is playing the scalper
Speaker 4: in front of the Temple, which you know, it's just
Speaker 4: a funny concept and he was great playing the scalper.
Speaker 2: I thought he has got two seats, fabulous right down front.
Speaker 4: The canter will be spitting on you all over you
Speaker 4: six hundred for the two Larry says, I'll give you
Speaker 4: three hundred.
Speaker 2: Says I'll take it like really quickly. You got an
Speaker 2: incredible deal.
Speaker 4: And then the kid who lied about the coffee spilling
Speaker 4: from the first scene sees Larry buying the tickets from
Speaker 4: the scalper and gives Larry a dirty look. Cheryl, Jeff
Speaker 4: and I are standing in front of the temple and
Speaker 4: Cheryl does one of her guyish things that she does
Speaker 4: so beautiful, why buy tickets? She does it in the
Speaker 4: ski lift again, which I love what We'll get to
Speaker 4: that later on in the season.
Speaker 2: But she said, why would you bury a plate? She
Speaker 2: just asked it so innocently, like why buy tickets? She
Speaker 2: doesn't understand these Jews. What's so?
Speaker 3: By the way, I want to say, the bury the
Speaker 3: plate thing, I've never understood.
Speaker 2: Well, who understands that well?
Speaker 3: The Orthodox Orthodox Jews?
Speaker 4: But anyway, but just the way Cheryl, as the outsider,
Speaker 4: questions these things.
Speaker 3: I wonder if the grounds outside of an Orthodox Jews
Speaker 3: home has a lot of patches from where they buried
Speaker 3: in the grass from.
Speaker 2: I'll walk around the neighborhood and look.
Speaker 3: We do the burying the plate in the ski lift.
Speaker 4: That's the lift, yes, which is this season. But later
Speaker 4: on and then Larry thanks us for car pooling. Oh,
Speaker 4: Cheryl thanks us for car pooling. And Larry said he
Speaker 4: never expected me to get in a car in his
Speaker 4: car again because I was so pissed off from the
Speaker 4: party when he left. And I say to him, isn't
Speaker 4: there an uncle or an aunt who would know about
Speaker 4: the adoption? Isn't there somebody who could clarify this once
Speaker 4: and for all? And Larry says, they're all dead. But
Speaker 4: there was a nanny, Joanna Siderman, and Antoinette, his assistant,
Speaker 4: tracked her down and he wrote her a letter, and
Speaker 4: she would know about the adoption. Joanna Siderman. And you're
Speaker 4: like shocked that he had a nanny, which it's not
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense that he had a nanny.
Speaker 3: Didn't bother me at all, could have been for a
Speaker 3: couple of years whatever.
Speaker 2: But you say something about you had a nanny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well that's my style of improvisation. Someone says
Speaker 3: something that's kind of a sorry, they're not going to
Speaker 3: get away with it. I'm gonna I love questioning. And
Speaker 3: by the way, my favorite person to question with the
Speaker 3: person who plays my game if you well about him,
Speaker 3: Frev who is actually ironically not on screen as Jeff Shaeffer.
Speaker 2: And let's tell people who Jeff Schaeffer is.
Speaker 3: Jeff Schaeffer is an executive producer on the show creatively,
Speaker 3: and he.
Speaker 4: Directs almost all of our episodes for the past few seasons.
Speaker 3: Yes, but by the way, as we've discussed, he truly
Speaker 3: holds the show together.
Speaker 2: He is our secret weapon. Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 3: Off camera, he plays with these things and he makes
Speaker 3: you laugh hard, brilliantly. I know, it's really wild. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I told him we should go to like the Largo
Speaker 3: and do something like.
Speaker 2: That and it would be fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not interested.
Speaker 2: He's not a performer, he's a writer director.
Speaker 3: But he's certainly a funny dude.
Speaker 2: It's very funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be right back, stay tuned. Okay, we're back,
Speaker 4: And then Larry says, do you pick up the phone
Speaker 4: during sex? No, you're having an intimate moment with your
Speaker 4: loved one, you know, And then we see in the
Speaker 4: background Lewis having a secret tete a tete with.
Speaker 2: Leo, the deli owner, and then a guy named Rob
Speaker 2: comes over.
Speaker 4: Larry can't shake and the scene always made me lip
Speaker 4: and Rob. I'm standing next to Larry and let Rob
Speaker 4: points to me and says, so this is your wife?
Speaker 2: No what?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's my wife. Hey, I'll see inside,
Speaker 5: okay inside?
Speaker 2: So is this your wife? And Larry says, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's not my wife.
Speaker 4: And I get pissed off at that for obvious reasons.
Speaker 4: It's a bit insulting. It's a bit insulting. And he's like, well,
Speaker 4: you look like al Capone. I'm wearing a fedora.
Speaker 3: But by the way, that began the Larry David commenting
Speaker 3: on my outfits. That was the very first time.
Speaker 2: I think, so no, no, no.
Speaker 3: No no. It was the bedazzled shirts from your Trust.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but you were you wore one later on
Speaker 2: in that show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that would be the first time. This is
Speaker 3: the second time, okay.
Speaker 4: And then he says, let's go in and pray, and
Speaker 4: he says sorry Susie, which is a very rare event.
Speaker 4: Then we're in the temple and this singing and Larry
Speaker 4: cleans his glasses with his yamaka. Now, Jeff, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you recall, but we had a prop master
Speaker 4: at the time.
Speaker 3: For many seasons. He was a proud for.
Speaker 2: Many many seasons.
Speaker 4: Dork Clark, who what did he call the yamica your molky?
Speaker 2: Because something so not yamoka? What wasn't do you remember?
Speaker 3: Oh god no, but I do remember him saying something.
Speaker 2: Like a yar milky or something like that.
Speaker 3: I think it was your molky actually, to be honest
Speaker 3: with you, your molky. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And Louis is sitting to Rose ahead of Larry and
Speaker 4: he leans back in a loud whisper and says to Larry,
Speaker 4: how did you get that sandwich at?
Speaker 2: Larry says, Leo gave it to me. What did you
Speaker 2: bribe him with? And I go in five times a week?
Speaker 4: You only go in three times week And Larry says,
Speaker 4: I take stuff out.
Speaker 2: Louis says, I get delivery.
Speaker 4: You know this this one upping with this friendship, which
Speaker 4: is the most ridiculous thing.
Speaker 2: And Larry says, what were you talking to Leo about?
Speaker 4: And Lewis says, you have a sandwich stinks And Larry says,
Speaker 4: you stink.
Speaker 2: They're like five year olds these two.
Speaker 4: A security guard comes over and asks Larry to see
Speaker 4: his tickets, and he says, to the kid, the kid
Speaker 4: who squealed on who lied about the coffee spill?
Speaker 2: Is this the guy? And the kid nods, okay.
Speaker 3: You're interest that I have a ticket.
Speaker 2: Looks, let's go.
Speaker 3: If you like making a scene.
Speaker 5: Nor great, Lit'll tell dell snitch he spilled the coffee,
Speaker 5: by the way, because I couldn't put my fingers through
Speaker 5: your dainty cup. You're setting a very bad at table
Speaker 5: for my gentile wife.
Speaker 3: You know that looks the first time.
Speaker 4: In two and he's got that that bratty little look
Speaker 4: on his face.
Speaker 2: This kid was good, No.
Speaker 3: He's perfect. He's he's like way out of like he's
Speaker 3: like a bad kid from the Little Rascal, right, That's
Speaker 3: that's what he he reminds me of.
Speaker 2: And everybody starts shushing, shushing, shushing, and Larry says, he
Speaker 2: spilled the coffee. I couldn't get my fingers through the
Speaker 2: dainty little cup.
Speaker 4: Then Larry and Cheryl get kicked out and they're leaving,
Speaker 4: and as they're leaving they pass us, and I say,
Speaker 4: are you waiting for us?
Speaker 2: How are we going to get home? We carpooled with you.
Speaker 2: They're not waiting for us.
Speaker 4: Next thing, you guys are golfing with the doctor who's
Speaker 4: going to perform the surgery on that.
Speaker 2: And Larry tells you the doctor divorced his wife and
Speaker 2: is dating his secretary, which.
Speaker 3: By the way, out here I don't know about doctors,
Speaker 3: but I can tell.
Speaker 2: You out here out here, being La in.
Speaker 3: La, that is a very common thing. Because you work
Speaker 3: so intimately with your assistant. What I'm basically saying is,
Speaker 3: I know a few people divorce their wives and either
Speaker 3: married the assistant or is dating them.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what it's like, Arnold Schwarzenegger and the maid.
Speaker 2: She was there, Yeah, she was there.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: By the way, what I would love to know is
Speaker 3: how that interaction began, because he did it repeatedly so
Speaker 3: and she agreed to do it. Say's not like, but
Speaker 3: how did he approach her? Did she flirt with him?
Speaker 3: My curiosity has suddenly gone up again on that situation.
Speaker 4: Then you asked Larry if he's heard from the nanny,
Speaker 4: and he says no, he wrote her a letter, but
Speaker 4: he hasn't heard. And then you see the doctor is
Speaker 4: doing his putt and he's got the yips. His hands
Speaker 4: are shaking. Is there a definition for the yips beyond handshaking?
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe so. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: yips is one of those words that just has to
Speaker 3: be shown or described. It's not like a concise well
Speaker 3: they're handshake. It's a whole thing with fear and ye,
Speaker 3: it's just a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Is that yips?
Speaker 4: Is that only a golf term or is it using
Speaker 4: no baseball players?
Speaker 3: There was a baseball player on the Dodgers named Steve
Speaker 3: Sachs is their second basement. Really good baseball player got
Speaker 3: the yips. Oh. Also, I forget his name. He played
Speaker 3: Chuck naw Block. These are really established good players.
Speaker 2: And then it was the Yankee. I remember Chuck Block,
Speaker 2: but he had the yips. Oh really, he had the yips.
Speaker 3: When he was on the Yankees. I believe it happens
Speaker 3: to anyone who needs skill, you know, in anything skilled
Speaker 3: like of a course. I've never heard of a quarterback
Speaker 3: getting the yips, but that would be the type of
Speaker 3: person in football getting the yips, or a kicker.
Speaker 2: Yips.
Speaker 3: Keep going, all right, I'm actually reacting to you for once.
Speaker 3: Keep going.
Speaker 2: It's not something you want your surgeon.
Speaker 3: To have No, that's the point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is And Larry's at home and he's telling
Speaker 4: Cheryl about the yips and he's like, he's operating on
Speaker 4: my father. So Cheryl says, pick up the phone and
Speaker 4: call the doctor. And he's like, well, you got to
Speaker 4: get out of the room. I can't do this in
Speaker 4: front of you. And he doesn't want to do this
Speaker 4: at all. He needs privacy, and he calls the doctor
Speaker 4: and the doctor is having sex with a secretary and doesn't.
Speaker 3: Pick up right there's the key thing.
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, he's in the hospital with Nat
Speaker 4: and that says you're not adopted. And he says, that
Speaker 4: was not I never said that you're not adopted. I
Speaker 4: never said that, And he wants the other half of
Speaker 4: the Larry David Sandwich, and Larry says, well, he's meeting
Speaker 4: the doctor at Leo's.
Speaker 2: He'll get one for him.
Speaker 4: And he's like, you sure I'm not adopted, And then
Speaker 4: he does a stare down with Nat, which I thought
Speaker 4: was a very excellent staredown.
Speaker 3: Okay, not only was it an excellent staredown, but those
Speaker 3: two looking at you. I said to Sari, I go no, exaggeration.
Speaker 3: Two comedic geniuses of all time are doing this. You
Speaker 3: know that. It was like I made that realization. I'm
Speaker 3: watching and I go, no, no, no, no. These two
Speaker 3: people are reasons that I went into comedy, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and my inspiration from them. I mean, people don't know Shelley,
Speaker 3: I think one of the first fam of a comedian.
Speaker 3: He might have been the first guy to play Carnegie Hall.
Speaker 3: He's had a lot of first Yeah, I hit a
Speaker 3: lot of first I don't know, I can't keep track,
Speaker 3: but anyhow, that might be my favorite staredown for many
Speaker 3: a myriad of reasons. So good.
Speaker 2: It was a good one. Yeah, it was a good one.
Speaker 4: And Larry says, we're gonna see what missus Siderman has
Speaker 4: to say about it. And he goes to Leo's Deli
Speaker 4: and he orders a Larry David sandwich to go, and
Speaker 4: she says, we don't have that sandwich anymore.
Speaker 2: They changed the name.
Speaker 4: It's now the Richard Lewis Sandwich the Whitefish save.
Speaker 3: I love that it's written on masking tape.
Speaker 4: Covering up the Larry David and we see Lewis is
Speaker 4: at a table with a bunch of comedy buddies laughing
Speaker 4: it up, bun.
Speaker 2: Larry approaches you stole my sandwich.
Speaker 4: I saw you talking to him outside the deli and
Speaker 4: Lewis's I always talk to people outside the temple. And
Speaker 4: Larry's like, you were so jealous. A little piece of
Speaker 4: information for you, I'm adufted and he throws it out
Speaker 4: to him and so like, you know, it's such a
Speaker 4: great thing, and Lewis says, bullshit.
Speaker 2: And he says, I I'm not part of those two nuts.
Speaker 2: Those two nuts are not my parents.
Speaker 4: And Leo is listening and overhear said Lewis is clearly
Speaker 4: jealous that Larry's adopted.
Speaker 2: And Leo comes over him and says, I adopted.
Speaker 1: Do you are my brother?
Speaker 2: You are my adopted brother. You could have any said
Speaker 2: what you want. And Larry takes the ted dance and
Speaker 2: sandwich right. And then the doctor shows up because Larry's
Speaker 2: meeting him.
Speaker 3: For lunch, Yeah, meeting him for lunch exactly.
Speaker 4: And he's supposed to do the surgery and the yips,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And he shakes Leo's hand and Leo breaks
Speaker 4: his hand, and there you go. He can't do the surgery.
Speaker 4: His hand is broken problem solved.
Speaker 3: This episode outside of the sandwich. Really, he has a
Speaker 3: lot of good luck after the swimming thing, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I noticed as I'm watching, I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh oh oh, the only thing that bad that really
Speaker 3: happened to him was getting kicked out of temple. Other
Speaker 3: than that, you know, yes, his father having a stroke.
Speaker 3: My apologies.
Speaker 2: Problem solves.
Speaker 4: He wants to get that Larry David to go and
Speaker 4: then he's home having sex with Ryl again and the
Speaker 4: phone rings, and she's like, do not even think about it,
Speaker 4: he says, but it might be a call for missus
Speaker 4: siderman my nanny, and she says, do not pick up
Speaker 4: that phone.
Speaker 3: By the way, who can continue to have sex when
Speaker 3: a man says the two words my nanny unless he's
Speaker 3: unless they're playing their role playing where she's the nanny, Yes,
Speaker 3: your my nanny, the.
Speaker 2: Executioner, you know something like that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you know I know people by the way,
Speaker 3: who wear wigs and costumes when they role play.
Speaker 2: Really just saying okay.
Speaker 3: Whatever you get, whatever gets you through the day or night.
Speaker 4: I'm so fucking normal or not. And of course it's
Speaker 4: the nanny. It's got to be the nanny, this is
Speaker 4: Curb Your Enthusiasm, And we see a young nurse says,
Speaker 4: no one's picking up, and we see an old lady
Speaker 4: in bed, you know, in a hospital down whatever.
Speaker 2: She said, I had an answer to his question, and she's.
Speaker 4: Holding the letter if only he had picked up and
Speaker 4: then she just flat lines and dies and that's the
Speaker 4: end of the episode. Yes, so we're not going to
Speaker 4: know for missus Siderman if he's adopted or not. But
Speaker 4: there's more adventures with adoption, many more adventures. It's not
Speaker 4: over yet, and we'll discuss one of the next adventures
Speaker 4: in the next episode.
Speaker 3: Episode two episode. We want to watch it season five episode.
Speaker 2: And we'll see you next week.
Speaker 3: You know what, we never even mention that the best
Speaker 3: way to enjoy this is having watched the episode before
Speaker 3: you do this, and I love that season five, I'm
Speaker 3: saying that's the best thing to do.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 4: We you know why, Jeff, because we have respect for
Speaker 4: our listeners, and we think you're smart enough to know
Speaker 4: that well.
Speaker 3: By the way, to be totally honest with you, much
Speaker 3: respect to Curb your Enthusiasm.
Speaker 4: Fans, Absolutely, I agree, the smartest fans of the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love when I'm playing to a room full
Speaker 3: of Curb fans. But what I actually make fun of
Speaker 3: the people that go with the curb people just trusting them,
Speaker 3: yet they have no idea what Kerb is. And you
Speaker 3: can always see them in the audience always, and I
Speaker 3: love it. I'm not mean to that.
Speaker 4: There's also a certain sensibility of a Curb fan, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, Kurb is not a comedy that everybody likes
Speaker 4: or gets.
Speaker 3: It's also that thing that used to make me angry
Speaker 3: when people don't have a sense of humor.
Speaker 2: What do you think Do you think that's innate or
Speaker 2: do you think that's learned?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's totally innate. I agree, And you know, maybe
Speaker 3: a miserable person if they got their shit together and
Speaker 3: did the therapy and stuff. I think a person like
Speaker 3: that in my game. You know, I always tell my
Speaker 3: kids take what you do seriously, don't take yourself so seriously.
Speaker 3: And I think we're living in a time where most
Speaker 3: people take themselves too seriously and the other people are
Speaker 3: grasping its straw looking for comedy. That's in my opinion, Well.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why we like to hang out with comedians.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't if I ever told the story. I'm
Speaker 3: at what's her name's house, it's a party, and I'm
Speaker 3: there with Marla, and Larry comes in and he sees me,
Speaker 3: and you can see the bounce in his step. He
Speaker 3: comes over and he says, thank god you're here.
Speaker 4: Thank god I've had that experience with him, right, he said,
Speaker 4: don't leave me, this is brutal.
Speaker 2: Stay by my side.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, By the way, comedians do that. And I've
Speaker 3: always told people, if you're easily offended, don't hang around
Speaker 3: with comedians at a funeral. We say the worst possible things,
Speaker 3: not in the mean way, but there are tons of
Speaker 3: jokes under that subject that people would go, why would
Speaker 3: you say that if they didn't have a sense of humor.
Speaker 3: But it's almost like comedian humor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, comedian funerals are notoriously hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we're not at anyone anytime soon. There've been too many.
Speaker 3: For those kind words.
Speaker 2: All right, we will see you next week, next.
Speaker 3: Week, Thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
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