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Speaker 1: Sadis Benz Interview Lounge.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of my favorite actors of all time is

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Speaker 2: now one of my favorite podcasters of all time. Kyle

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Speaker 2: McLaughlin is here from the what are We even doing? Podcast?

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Speaker 1: Hi, Kyle, Elvi's nice to be back. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back? Oh my god, I had no choice.

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Speaker 2: So iHeart is totally totally just taking advantage of you.

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Speaker 2: Today they're taking Kyle to sales meetings.

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Speaker 3: I've getten the whole treatment. Man, I'm gonna watch you.

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Speaker 3: You're my guide here. No, no, I'm a bad example.

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Speaker 2: And then we have a special they call it a

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Speaker 2: fireside chat today at three o'clock in the iHeart Auditorium.

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Speaker 2: We have an auditorium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, well that'll be fun and appropriate today

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Speaker 3: because it's freezing outside, so I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: The fire Sorry about that. I mean, you live in

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Speaker 2: this in the sunny state of California. I do Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: So is it good to come to the cold every

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Speaker 2: once in a while?

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Speaker 1: I love it. Love we have a place here. We

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Speaker 1: still have a place here, Okay. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: New York iss a magical place and it's in my heart.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I love coming back and then going back

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Speaker 3: to the sun.

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Speaker 1: Time it is. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, So the podcast has been going now for how

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Speaker 2: many months? We've been going for about two months? Okay,

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Speaker 2: pretty new.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Are you feeling about the podcast?

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Speaker 1: I love it?

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Speaker 3: I love it, you know what. It's a conversation and

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Speaker 3: I'm talking to people that I know very little about

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Speaker 3: and we're finding common ground, and that to me is

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Speaker 3: just It's been the most joyful thing I could possibly imagine,

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Speaker 3: and every every guest is just interesting and wonderful, and

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Speaker 3: I'm learning. In fact, I brought I brought my field notes.

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Speaker 3: I've been in the field.

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Speaker 2: Oh it says field, it says close field notes.

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Speaker 3: And I wanted to report back can see here, And

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Speaker 3: I wanted to report back on some of the things

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Speaker 3: I've been learning.

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Speaker 1: Well what have you learned? I mean, top of mind?

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about so some of these things that

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Speaker 3: are some of the phrases from the younger generation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shall I sholl me do a question. I think

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Speaker 1: we're pretty well looked down, very good? All right?

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Speaker 3: Good, Well, don't I don't, Nita, I see the I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna fail this miserable one. So anyway, there's a few

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Speaker 3: phrases that I've.

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Speaker 1: Who uses these phrases.

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Speaker 3: So these are general gen Z gen Z young millennials

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Speaker 3: that you know, people that are in the creative social

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Speaker 3: particularly unsocial, but just the kids really and even my

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Speaker 3: son who's seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So even before that, sure, this will be easy.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, it's now time to quiz Elvis Tom McLaughlin's

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Speaker 2: gonna ask you me questions. But conversational phrases, they were

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Speaker 2: used with people much younger than me.

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Speaker 3: I him, you said a phrase there which I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's a walking conversational phrases.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the we're doing here. We go

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Speaker 2: go ahead, like what goes out there? I should know?

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's there's a phrase. So the first one that

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Speaker 1: comes to mind is chopped chopped. Oh that's messed up,

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Speaker 1: not not.

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Speaker 3: Bad, actually pretty good guests, it's actually me not good looking,

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Speaker 3: ugly chop chopp right, yes, okay, but you know in

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Speaker 3: Italian it's fat ugly face.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. The next one is unk u n C.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's a part of another word something to do.

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Speaker 2: It means you're old. Yeah, like yeah, none of us

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Speaker 2: in this one. We're unk right, so I just I

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Speaker 2: can't answer that because I am unk.

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Speaker 1: It's true, just as am I. This is a sad exercise.

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Speaker 1: You can be a hot un Oh, that's true.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a phone call uncle.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that one on my list. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we're making up stuff. We're so uncle, I'd

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Speaker 4: This is like Indian kids. Indian kids call everybody older

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Speaker 4: than them uncle.

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Speaker 1: There you do you call your parents uncles?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I call my parents parents. If it's another Indian person

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Speaker 1: Keep rolling.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm okay, there is there is? You

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Speaker 3: are in in my blank era? So in your what

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Speaker 1: Would you say you're in your blank era? This is

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Speaker 1: such a tailor swift thing, death, understandable, flaccid. Do you

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Speaker 1: guys know em and I? I don't care era. I

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Speaker 1: don't care era. I'm in my podcast era. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're all in an era. H're all in a moment.

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Speaker 1: You know something's happened. What about you? Gandhi?

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Speaker 4: I like to think I'm in my growth era.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. I like that. That's positive brain rot. I

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Speaker 1: think you've heard of that brain rot. I have that.

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Speaker 3: I'm giving you example of that as we not true

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Speaker 3: group seven. I would say, we're all in group seven here,

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Speaker 3: that's oh, what's that group? You're in a cool kid group?

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Speaker 4: How they get seven seven different versions of that one song?

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Speaker 1: Is that related to six seven? There's that to We

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Speaker 1: know what that is, we know it, we know it's nothing.

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Speaker 3: I think what we should do is put the fries

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Speaker 3: in the bag right now. That means put the fries

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of fries and a fast food. It's time

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Speaker 2: to get out and go. Well, pretty close, tell me

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Speaker 2: to get to the wrap it up, let's go. I

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Speaker 2: think you did very well. I don't think I did

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Speaker 2: well at all. Okay, but this is a true clear

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Speaker 2: exercises as to what this podcast is about. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this exercises a part of what you do on this podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just really a conversation. We started off

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Speaker 2: be an interview. Really just turned into a conversation finding

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Speaker 2: common ground with some of them, some of my guests,

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Speaker 2: all of my guests, did you have to urge to

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Speaker 2: do this before this podcast was ever? Like what what

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Speaker 2: made you think? I think this could make a good podcast.

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Speaker 3: You know, I got into podcasts with with a one

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Speaker 3: called Varnum Town, which was a kind of a mystery

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Speaker 3: smuggling in drugs and was produced and it was done,

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Speaker 3: and I said, this podcast thing is kind of fun.

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Speaker 3: So I thought, how can I continue this? And I'm

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Speaker 3: ideas and we finally hit upon this idea just because

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Speaker 3: course that the kids keep coming back to. My fan

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Speaker 3: I said, well, why don't I sort of go into

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Speaker 3: of these young creatives and just see what's happening there,

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Speaker 3: you know, see what makes them tick.

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Speaker 1: So what does your kid think of this?

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Speaker 3: Because your kids, yeah, he just ignores it.

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Speaker 1: Quite He's seventeen years old. He should he should.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly right. It's exactly what he should. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: some of these phrases, I've sort of you know, I've

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Speaker 1: Ah hmm. I take notes, you know, like this kind

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Speaker 2: He's my favorite podcast, or Gandhi's podcast for instance, it's

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Speaker 2: all about exploration. Yeah, you know, I want to find

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Speaker 2: out more a podcast. For instance, here on our show,

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Speaker 2: we have a mass audience. We have people of all

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Speaker 2: different ages, all different dudes, what psychography, whatever you want

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Speaker 2: to call the things. The thing is, in a podcast,

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Speaker 2: you can be as deep and narrow as you want

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Speaker 2: about any topic at all, exactly. And the best podcasts

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Speaker 2: are ones where the host is actually curious.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it continues to learn. You continue learning in life,

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Speaker 3: which is what I found. And that was the one

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Speaker 3: thing I didn't anticipate. I mean, I love a conversation,

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Speaker 3: I love talking with people. I'm great at a dinner party.

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Speaker 3: If you can invite me, I'm there.

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Speaker 1: I'm really good. But this was this is going into another.

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Speaker 3: it's all about the creative process, for me, So what

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Speaker 3: where do they start? What drives them? How do they

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Speaker 3: use social media in this new world? You know, those

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Speaker 3: and then I'm like, the conversation goes and they say something,

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Speaker 2: You know, that was Larry Kinge, you know, one of

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Speaker 2: and it would it's the conversation and then that you

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Speaker 2: start rallying back and forth and you're your podcast. Gandhi

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Speaker 2: is the same way. You have all these interesting people

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Speaker 2: and the whatever of these people, these guests, and you

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Speaker 2: bring them in because you want to know more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to have a conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's not because you know everything about them, No.

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Speaker 4: I want to learn about what they're doing. And I

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Speaker 4: think exactly what you just said, it really teaches you

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Speaker 4: the podcast or the art of conversation, because that's something

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Speaker 4: we could use every day because so many times we

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Speaker 4: come in I want to ask these questions and if

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Speaker 4: you stick to that, the conversation is weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to just still with it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we've that's what I've found, and it's

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Speaker 3: it's been wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I got to say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I, as I said before, I'm learning so

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Speaker 3: much about these people. You know, I always was my

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Speaker 3: at actors like Marlon Brando and James Dean, Montgomery Cliff.

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Speaker 3: These are my inspirations, right. I don't know what's happening

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Speaker 1: So now you do it. Yeah, so this is my

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Speaker 1: attempt to sort of figure that out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, two months ago to today, how your knowledge

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Speaker 2: has changed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll look at that. We just did the quiz.

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Speaker 4: I think what's been really interesting about this too is,

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Speaker 4: like you said, all of your fans have kind of

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Speaker 4: been changing over time. You have young fans now too,

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Speaker 4: But in you exploring gen z gen Z has happened

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Speaker 4: you're like a gen z Icon.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely a curiosity, and I think it starts

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Speaker 3: with some of the work I've done that still stays around,

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Speaker 1: Is also interested in knowing. I think you should go

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Speaker 2: Even black velvet, almost blue velvet, I almost was cast

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was one of my favorite films of all time. Brilliant.

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Speaker 2: blue velvet. That was a beautiful beautiful work of art.

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Speaker 2: Incredible blue velvet, I mean blue velvet. So we have

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Speaker 2: an event today, iHeart. I'm glad we could have this

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Speaker 2: just start talking. What do you wear to this thing?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't wear this.

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Speaker 3: I look like O'Donnell might be a Lumberjacket's good, okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank god, thank you, casual. It's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's Kyle.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I just followed your lead, that's all. I don't wear

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Speaker 3: I don't think I need your final answer right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to disappoint you guys too much, but

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's an actual fire in this fire.

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Speaker 1: Is prepared. That's perfect.

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Speaker 2: The podcast that Kyle brings us is what are we

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Speaker 2: even doing? His latest venture? Sure into the conversation space,

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Speaker 2: You've got some great, great podcasts you're working, including Gandhi's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're teammates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah good. This is a strong team. This is a

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Speaker 3: I think we're going all the way.

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Speaker 1: Kyle, thank you for coming in today.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your time of freezing your corners off in New

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Speaker 2: I think at three o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's what they said.

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Speaker 2: They said, you're gonna come on, talk to Kyle, have

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Speaker 2: stay and take photos for people. I went, Okay, how

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Speaker 2: bad I leave and you take the photos. They want

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Speaker 2: your photo. I'm like, okay, I'll walk out backwards while whistling.

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Speaker 2: Kyle now can say it's always a pleasure to have

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Speaker 2: youile o'clock than everyone appreciate it.