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Speaker 1: Every day a week up the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Y'all done morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's d J n V. Just hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. La La

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Speaker 3: Ros is here as well, and we got a special guest.

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Speaker 4: In the building, legendary Eric.

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Speaker 5: You know you're one of the greatest producers of all time,

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Speaker 5: and we're gonna get to that in a second. You

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Speaker 5: need to get to this ridiculous ass story that you

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Speaker 5: told on the Diddy Documents.

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Speaker 2: Already.

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Speaker 4: I've been wanting to talk to you about this since

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Speaker 4: I saw you.

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Speaker 5: Now, when you sat down and told this story right,

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Speaker 5: and then went back and watched it, right, did you

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Speaker 5: say to yourself I told her wrong.

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Speaker 4: That's not ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: No, it's just not ridiculous. I'm gonna tell you what

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Speaker 6: what I said was the truth. I never capt so

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Speaker 6: what I did said was the truth how it went down,

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Speaker 6: you know, because again me and missus friends, I love

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Speaker 6: me to the death.

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Speaker 2: I would never put do something.

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Speaker 6: Just try to disrespect that, because behind the scenes I

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Speaker 6: gave her the number to call Alex and she wrote

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Speaker 6: in the text too. Oh yeah. If it wasn't for Eric,

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Speaker 6: I wasn't even reached out. She told Alex no about

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Speaker 6: the documentary. So I wouldn't even did that if I

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Speaker 6: was trying to disrespect her on that. I was just

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Speaker 6: giving my story two of what I said. Me and

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Speaker 6: her are sitting in the car, she in the driver seat,

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Speaker 6: She in the driver seat right, So if something was

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Speaker 6: going on, I wouldn't be in the car talking, you

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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, I'd be you know whatever. So

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Speaker 6: somebody knocked on my window and it was him, So

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Speaker 6: of course he goes with her. Now, so of course

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Speaker 6: anybody will be angry and be mad because that's his girl.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't it your car?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying as far as him being angry,

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Speaker 6: he never touched me stopping now, stop, come on this me, Okay.

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Speaker 6: He when I got out the car, he was angry,

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Speaker 6: so he swung on me. Yeah, I got the car, right,

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Speaker 6: can't swing in the car.

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Speaker 4: And then.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no no, I got the car

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Speaker 2: and we started talking. Then he swung on me.

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Speaker 6: So now, at the end of the day, me being

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Speaker 6: respectful knowing that too, I didn't want to do that

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Speaker 6: in front of her because I know I listened and

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Speaker 6: you understand exactly because of the respect of her was

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Speaker 6: in the car.

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Speaker 2: She got out the car.

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Speaker 4: She said she got so you told.

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Speaker 2: Her get out and I told get out. She's got.

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Speaker 6: Of course you gonna get out. People talking, you know,

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Speaker 6: we don't get we were he's yelling. You know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying. So, but me and him is also friends,

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Speaker 6: to don't forget. I was gonna into the Mary J.

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Speaker 6: Blage album right so automatically, and then he had to

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Speaker 6: come and talk to me too, which is em so

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Speaker 6: I had to get the clearings for that though too,

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Speaker 6: So we was already no kind of friends. He befriended me,

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Speaker 6: so it wasn't like I'm like, yo, I couldn't believe

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Speaker 6: that it happened to begin with.

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Speaker 2: So my thing was, let's.

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Speaker 6: Go around the corner so we won't have to do

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Speaker 6: that in front of my friend and you're angry.

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Speaker 4: So y'all really was cool. I was cool getting into something.

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Speaker 6: That's look again Netflix again, that's on Netflix. It looks crazy.

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Speaker 6: Sot me let me fix the other part about the

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Speaker 6: Biggie Smalls. Of course, Biggie Smalls is not out yet,

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Speaker 6: so it's new music. So when somebody says, oh that,

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Speaker 6: it don't add up with the baby and just not

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Speaker 6: being born.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, no, it was new music. So again, after you.

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Speaker 6: Finished going around the corner, you calm down now because

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Speaker 6: now there's no reason for you to get hype now

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Speaker 6: because now this this situation is all calm So now

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Speaker 6: it's like, yo, check this out. And then then we

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Speaker 6: took about Keith Murray because he was a big Keith

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Speaker 6: Murray fan. So like Keith Murry signed to me. So

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Speaker 6: again the cop versation that people don't know about, this

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Speaker 6: is what happened.

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Speaker 4: So what was the ride around the corner? Like when

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Speaker 4: he got in the car. What did y'all talk about it?

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Speaker 2: Y'all was driving gona think about nothing until we stopped.

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Speaker 4: So y'all stopped and realize we don't really want to fight.

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Speaker 2: It was never going to get there for for for

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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 7: You know, you had already talked outside the car and

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Speaker 7: kind of cooled it down, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 8: No, please ask God, damn all. Right, hold up, why

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Speaker 8: was she driving your truck?

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Speaker 2: She's in driving she Why was she in the.

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Speaker 8: Driver's seat of your truck? That's his girl.

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Speaker 2: No, I just she just wanted to be in the

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Speaker 8: Oh what kind of truck was.

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Speaker 2: It was a uh but I had was a fore runner.

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Speaker 9: She just wanted to be So you wasn't trying to

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Speaker 9: get her back or nothing in the driver's seat to

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Speaker 8: And so when she got out, y'all left her just

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Speaker 2: Left she was in fun of her crib. Oh all right?

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Speaker 8: So this was at the crib.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we talked in front of the crib.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, why would you go around to another No?

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Speaker 2: No, fron of her in front of her house?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Young?

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Speaker 4: So what was this was the song Fucking You Tonight?

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Speaker 2: No, we'll just stop.

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Speaker 6: This was ready to die. He was not thinking about something.

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you about about with with with Puff.

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Speaker 6: I was just telling my story.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't like I was trying to even just him neither.

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Speaker 6: Don't forget Puffy came and got keep married. For every remix,

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Speaker 6: every song he called me for Jose's remix. So if

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Speaker 6: you are angry with somebody, I wouldn't be getting phone calls.

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Speaker 2: He called for Redman. He called every.

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Speaker 6: Time something came out on Bad Boy. One of my

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Speaker 6: artists was somebody who he called or he called me

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Speaker 6: to remix it. So again I understand how it might look,

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Speaker 6: but it wasn't like That's why I couldn't wait to

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: So the next question is why the documentary because I

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Speaker 3: didn't see that on my bingo call when I seen

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Speaker 3: the documentary and I see Eric the documentary, So who

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Speaker 3: reached out for the document Why did you say?

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Speaker 6: They asked me the questions, you know how fifty is? Again,

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Speaker 6: I had fifty with a nod in the beginning. You know,

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Speaker 6: don't forget Corey Ruon. You bung fifty cent to my

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Speaker 6: crib next door, like walked over with him, like, yo,

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Speaker 6: here's my artist.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 6: I end up doing heat Wave, you know, and I

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Speaker 6: end up doing a couple of other songs though too.

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Speaker 6: So I'm also friends with him too. So when they

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Speaker 6: asked me the question, I'm like, yo, okay, I do it,

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Speaker 6: not knowing it was going to be, you know, how

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Speaker 6: you put stuff together. I was just I told a

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Speaker 6: couple of stories, envy. This is a story that they

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Speaker 6: end up keeping, you know. So again I'm not here

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Speaker 6: to you. If anybody knows me, it's.

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Speaker 2: You, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: You and you know my crew, and you know me

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Speaker 6: as far as just how I roll. Again to the

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Speaker 6: end of the day. I'm not trying to debunk or

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Speaker 6: make everything sound nice or whatever it is. People don't

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Speaker 6: know the friendship of Mesa and me and and him,

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Speaker 6: we was actually friends. And I would never ever try

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Speaker 6: to put me say, in a situation on that. And

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Speaker 6: I said friends, I didn't say we was like that

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Speaker 6: and we was doing all that said, yo, that was

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Speaker 6: my friend, you know, because we never really put together

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Speaker 6: as being boyfriend and girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: It was just like a friend thing, you know.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Now this is the part that again at the

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Speaker 6: end of the day, I didn't I was at Basil.

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Speaker 2: Now I heard that she was there, but I didn't

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Speaker 2: see I didn't see her out.

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Speaker 6: But but again I know she wasn't going to pick

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Speaker 6: up my phone call because again you have to let

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Speaker 6: somebody calm down and be like whatever and see because

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Speaker 6: she was getting so much stuff whatever. But she texts

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Speaker 6: my my best friend, but not it and didn't say

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Speaker 6: some nice things, you know. So again, but it was

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Speaker 6: in the beginning, you know what I'm saying. So hopefully

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Speaker 6: you know, she sees this and then I be able

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Speaker 6: to talk to her, you know, and say, you know,

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Speaker 6: I didn't mean to do nothing to her because she

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Speaker 6: is my friend.

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Speaker 5: I guess I guess what this new generation, every every

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Speaker 5: damn every man on that doc looks like a you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, you guys something. I know that,

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Speaker 5: but I'm saying, you got guys on the they but

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Speaker 4: So when people see you on the doctor.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I wasn't. I was crazy, like I didn't belong there,

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Speaker 6: you know when you see everybody else was like, yo,

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Speaker 6: I didn't belong to your envy. I swear I want

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Speaker 6: to do we want Superman going around the world again

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Speaker 6: and be like, you know what, I can rewind us

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Speaker 6: all back, you know what I'm saying, and do it,

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Speaker 6: do it over because everybody who saw said the same

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Speaker 6: ship what is Eric doing?

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Speaker 2: And that documentary?

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Speaker 6: You know, but at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 6: like this, I can't even take this though too since

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Speaker 6: nineteen whatever eighty nine, though jests the ninety this is

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Speaker 6: my first time being this on fire.

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Speaker 5: Like really, it's not damn music, no, no, that you

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Speaker 5: reinfinished yourself so many times.

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Speaker 6: Wait in one second, I'm telling you, man, this right

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Speaker 6: here is a different type.

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Speaker 2: Like I felt like now I'm telling.

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Speaker 6: You, like this is the whole world, Like you couldn't

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Speaker 6: have a hit record and be around the world, but

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Speaker 6: you're talking about twenty three countries, number one Netflix, Okay, whatever,

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Speaker 6: you gotta adjust all this and then the album coming

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Speaker 6: at the same time, I'm number one, you know on

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Speaker 6: on on iTunes, like I didn't have.

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Speaker 4: This social I don't want them to know.

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Speaker 2: No, no, listen, I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying far as the far as me being listen,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be hot for that, neither what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But it did. It helped the project of Dynamic Duels.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, purposely aligned hell album.

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Speaker 6: It kept pushing back the album would this and just

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Speaker 6: this album is four years old, it was doing COVID whatever.

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Speaker 6: Kevin Lyles came and got me into to what nineteen

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Speaker 6: were twenty eighteen, twenty twenty. Then after that two years

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Speaker 6: went by COVID and then all of a sudden they

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Speaker 6: buy three hundred, four hundred million after that, so you.

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Speaker 1: Was signed up a three hundred right, I was signed

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Speaker 1: with artist, but.

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Speaker 6: As a partner, you know, MB, I'm too old for

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Speaker 6: to be signeding somebody. So after that, whatever time went

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Speaker 8: You know, how did you get Denzel Washington to do

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Speaker 6: It wasn't Denzel usc king Yo, that's my own Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: The impressation is so good. I literally thought, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: You know, you talk about your history in his music industry, right,

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, listen, man, there's people that don't know

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Speaker 6: click Rick, you know whether this man was a genius.

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Speaker 6: So when I look at that happening and then Molly

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Speaker 2: Sample, this will not be where we're at now too.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But again, as long as.

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Speaker 6: You know and my colleagues, like when I see Parreal

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Speaker 5: But we got to show the new generation like you're

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Speaker 4: Correct, Like like what inspired that? Sonic identity?

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Speaker 4: Yes, they do. They think Puffy victim number three, We're not.

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Speaker 6: Going after that number five that you since one inspired that?

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Speaker 4: What inspired that? That that sounded? Did you know at

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Speaker 2: Well again?

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Speaker 6: E PMD was you know, just stop it okay? EPMD

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Speaker 6: was something that, like I said, for me in Paris,

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Speaker 6: All these songs we had and we knew so EPMD

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Speaker 4: The thing I loved about EPMD.

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Speaker 5: Y'all had like a chemistry that just was was effortless.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget.

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Speaker 2: You're too young for that too. Earl shot with ninety

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Speaker 6: So we get the car, go to the paint machine,

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Speaker 6: We just give us some old I'm fifty six years old,

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Speaker 2: You know, from doing that.

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Speaker 5: What was the secret to y'all y'all partnership though, and like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? See, Paris didn't rhyme when I met him. Really,

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Speaker 6: So I came from another part of Brentwood, which was

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Speaker 6: I know, I thought I was I was right, and

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Speaker 2: So those are my first kind of wrap. My mother,

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Speaker 6: She she brung Home Rappers the Light and the break

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Speaker 2: Dancing right, So listen? So other man, well just stopped,

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, me and you were good friends, so

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Speaker 6: On Soul Train was a guy called the Papa Long Kid, right,

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Speaker 4: I got a list. So growing up like people like yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you can still hear you my ship, you couldn't

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And I always want to know,

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Speaker 3: you know, Na that our niece she comes up here,

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Speaker 6: Bring that up because because it's inspiring. He forced on

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Speaker 4: Inspiring because he was letting.

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Speaker 1: He let me in his house.

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Speaker 3: And you see, with Keith Murray made records and with

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Speaker 1: It meant so much. So I always wanted to know

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Speaker 3: We've never heard Eric sermon having financial problems, but I've

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Speaker 3: never heard, right, what did you do differently than most

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Speaker 1: How could we never heard that with you.

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Speaker 6: I think that again, I watched Parish in the beginning

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Speaker 2: I didn't have it.

442
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 6: And be plus, I was young, like Russell gave. He

443
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 6: came to guts from first records. He spent the one

444
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 6: point six million dollars to get us. But again we

445
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 6: didn't see it. So and then we told a lot

446
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 6: though too. So I was able to get me a

447
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 6: crib and get me a bins, you know, but it

448
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 6: was like I didn't really see anything as far as

449
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 6: bank account type situations. Yeah, until I moved to Atlanta

450
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 6: and the group broke up. And once the group broke up,

451
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 6: I started buying all type of shit. And I wasn't

452
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 6: even living in the cribs, you know, I was getting apartments,

453
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 6: getting houses, whatever it's doing whatever. At the time, all

454
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 6: of a sudden, though, V you see what I was doing.

455
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 6: I had so many groups in so many places. I think,

456
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 6: as Martinez has said one time, how does Eric get

457
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 6: all these deals? Because I was going to the labels winning,

458
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 6: So it wasn't like I was going there and taking money.

459
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 6: So that means Reggie was winning there, Keith Murray winning

460
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 6: that jive, you know, Dave Harster was winning at you know,

461
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 6: at dream Works. You know, I had people far as

462
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 6: the Hunter was at Emi. You know, then if at

463
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 6: the desk squad came out, then Ruther Meth came out.

464
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, deals, I had how much

465
00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 6: up front money I was getting?

466
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 7: You know that?

467
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was parish More too.

468
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 6: But I ended up selling my half, which is I

469
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 6: don't know why I did that at the time, but

470
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 6: I gave forty percent this and not that and this.

471
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 6: Then Clive Davis came you know, you know that was

472
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 6: four million dollars. This is like, you know again, at

473
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 6: the end of the day, it was like it just

474
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 6: kept doing what it was doing. Kadn Masenberg at one

475
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 6: time too, So it was the fact that and then

476
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 6: publishing what you see now, I don't think I never

477
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 6: sold because I didn't have to. So now at the

478
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 6: end of the day, the publishing is doing what it is.

479
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 6: You know, you probably sort of sort of the post

480
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 6: after so many years weekend does I don't want to

481
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 6: know by you know whatever. One point nine billion streams.

482
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 6: One point nine billion streams brings you two hundred and

483
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 6: fifty thousand dollars every quarter.

484
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: So every quarter you get to fifty Jesus for.

485
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 6: Four percent on one record. So this is what I

486
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 6: try to tell people. I never told the people to flex.

487
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 6: I was trying to tell artists, like you said, if

488
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 6: you have your publishing and you own it, here's what

489
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 6: can feed you, like a four to one k or

490
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 6: some type of retirement type of thing, if you own

491
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 6: your publishing. But I get it, if you don't have

492
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 6: the money, you have to sell it and people are

493
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 6: cashing in for the big money. I understand that two

494
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 6: hundred million two. I'm going to do the same thing too.

495
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 6: If I was Dre and Neo and Dream and all

496
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 6: of them, I do it too. But again, but in

497
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 6: the smaller scheme of things, I never had to do that.

498
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 6: So when I sit back and I be at home

499
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 6: and years go by. I took off twelve years to

500
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 6: be because I was on joint for twelve years. So

501
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 6: again at the end of the day, them percosets had

502
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 6: me at home anyway, you know what I'm saying. So

503
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 6: this is twelve years of being able to sit down

504
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 6: because you got publishing checks from all that music that

505
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 6: I was able to do, was able to have me

506
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 6: sit down. That's how I live and be without me

507
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 6: doing work is publishing.

508
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: Percosus was when you know.

509
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 6: Well, when I had that thing in two thousand Women

510
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 6: it said I felt from the window whatever.

511
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: That was my first time on vikinging.

512
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: Do you ever tell the story that you never tell

513
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: the story?

514
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean people know it wasn't that. You know,

515
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 6: I was in the wrong place at the wrong time,

516
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 6: but it was suicide side.

517
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: But I viking in is what you get first.

518
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 6: That's why I said Michael Jackson it was the pills

519
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 6: before he got to Porfo fall whatever. But I had

520
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 6: the viking in first. Once I had the viking in,

521
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know what, Charla Mede, I'm like this,

522
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 6: this is cool. So I was off of the viking

523
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 6: In once I got better. Two thousand and and nine,

524
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 6: I had back surgery as far as like one of

525
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 6: them L fives or whatever. The the my my nerves

526
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 6: had wrapped around my spine so it had numb. My

527
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 6: whole from my balls all the way down to my

528
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 6: legs was all numb. So I was seventy two hours

529
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 6: away from nerve damage on that right row.

530
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: What you they gotta say, pause, clearly just talking about balls, So.

531
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 8: Just right, sorry, listen child, wait talking about this action.

532
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: I'm stupid.

533
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy, big kids.

534
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 4: It was none from the ball way.

535
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: It was a didn't lay. It was a one man lay.

536
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: Came you want to be the.

537
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 5: Captain A laugh, but I would not look at But

538
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying no, but I can't wait to be.

539
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 6: I didn't say I was I was I was number.

540
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 9: Was I was number You couldn't from the balls down

541
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 9: like I was no action.

542
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: So they gave me one hundred and twenty percocets the ground.

543
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: The bottle was this.

544
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 6: Tall, right, so it's one hundred and twenty. So for

545
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 6: the first two days I didn't fuck with him, you know,

546
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 6: because I didn't know where it was.

547
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

548
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 6: I'm like, we're the viker in that, you know whatever.

549
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 6: But then the pain started. So now I take the percosesets.

550
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 6: Now the pain stopped.

551
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: But I liked the feeling and not for that it

552
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: was over.

553
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: He's ten years twelve. How did you finally get off?

554
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: I went to rehab in twenty twenty two? You rehab?

555
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 4: Was it? Me?

556
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 6: And I didn't go to no celebrity rehab. I went

557
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 6: to a rehab upstate with regular people. And they talk

558
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 6: about it too. They hit me on the things like, yo,

559
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 6: Kim Lee, you was in here the whole nine because

560
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 6: I figured if I went to one celebrity ones you

561
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 6: allowed to leave and say they say, if sol I

562
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 6: means as a fan, I could ask him to get

563
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 6: me some percosets, he get it for me.

564
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So again, this place was

565
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: really kind of locked down.

566
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 6: They didn't played. It was a girl and a guy situated.

567
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 6: So it was twenty two girls upstairs and forty forty

568
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 6: men downstairs. So and every day you go to a

569
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 6: class from seven to from seven to eight. So you

570
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 6: have classes, and you have people who come in on

571
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 6: Tuesdays and talk for you.

572
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: You it all no no.

573
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: During that time, you couldn't produce, You could not you

574
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: can care.

575
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 6: There's none of that reflect because because the first five

576
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 6: days is you're doing detox and you're doing what's that

577
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 6: that ship they use for whatever, They give you that

578
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 6: for the first four days, and after that you start rehabbing.

579
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: How I was detox and not not having that after

580
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: having it.

581
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 6: For twelve four days is crazy because you get the

582
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: ship called to shake the but yeah, well it's it's

583
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 6: restless legs. So so so your leg is kicking and

584
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 6: then your arms starts kicking, so you can't sleep. So

585
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 6: now I'm up for seventy two hours doing this arm

586
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 6: punctioning like I said for it. Sometimes I used to

587
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 6: get the emotional, but again not now. But your leger

588
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 6: is kicking, and your arms kicking is called restless legs,

589
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 6: so that happens in the beginning. So now they want

590
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 6: you to take some ship called seboxing, but suboxing is

591
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 6: another drug, so I was not going to put myself

592
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 6: back on something else to calm this down.

593
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 9: I never understood why they do that and rehead. But

594
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 9: they'll give you something else, another drug, wing you off

595
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 9: the one that you want, but it has the same shit,

596
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 9: same thing.

597
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: So if I would have came home, I would have

598
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: been on that.

599
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: So I'm like, fucking, I just wait seventy two hours,

600
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 6: this and that, whatever, whatever. So I end up taking

601
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 6: some business jil out of everything too to put me

602
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 6: to sleep after the seventy two hours and not work

603
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 6: after that. That was really cool. I was just going

604
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 6: through it. But then they tell you don't go back

605
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 6: into your environment. That means if you go back home,

606
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 6: that driveway is gonna remind me of my dealer coming

607
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 6: to my driveway. If I go around the corner of

608
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 6: that store is gonna mind me because I always had

609
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 6: them meet me somewhere, like my kids didn't know. My

610
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 6: kids didn't find out. They ain't know nothing for a while.

611
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, though, Charla mean, I'm looking at

612
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 6: this situation like, yo, I can't get out of here

613
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 6: because again I'm gonna have to go someplace else because

614
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 6: if I stay here, it's gonna call right after that.

615
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 6: My mother's in stage five. Yeah wow, So now for

616
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 6: the whole year I'm taking care of her. Now I

617
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 6: don't supposed to be in that environment because now I'm

618
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 6: gonna get stressed and the first thing I'm gonna run

619
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 6: to is her. It's a purtains, but my mother said,

620
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 6: if you do that, I'm not gonna make it. So

621
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 6: once she said that, there's no way I'm gonna touch

622
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 6: the pill.

623
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: So he was talking to her about the challenges you face.

624
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: Well, well, she no, she's not that.

625
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 6: She just knew that I came up from rehab and

626
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 6: I wasn't supposed to be in that environment or any

627
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: type of stressful environment. She knew that, but again I

628
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 6: had to take care of her, you know, so at

629
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 6: the end of the day.

630
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: So once that happened.

631
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 6: From June to May, when she passed away, right, my

632
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 6: mother was so ill because my mother knew that how

633
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 6: how how it was going to hurt me for me

634
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 6: to see her die. So I got the call from

635
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 6: Kanye West to go produce. I knew I was leaving

636
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 6: that week, you know what I mean, All of a sudden,

637
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 6: she told my sister, tell Eric to get on the

638
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 6: plane and don't miss that opportunity.

639
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: She's dying, and she's like, you know, well go do that.

640
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 6: So I go on the plane, I land, me and

641
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 6: b As soon as I land, he passed me the

642
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 6: phones with my sister. My mother's transitioned. Kanye calls and

643
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 6: says Eric. It happened to me too. My aunt called me,

644
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 6: don't worry about that, come to the studio tomorrow. So

645
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 6: when niggas talk about YA two, he was there for me,

646
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 6: you know. So that whole seven months with him had

647
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 6: me off of what does happened? Even though I went

648
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 6: home to bury my mother. I went home and buried her.

649
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 6: I flew to Italy where he was at. You know,

650
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 6: so we worked in Italy and I came back home again,

651
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 6: and after that whatever, I knew that it had left

652
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 6: me because, believe me, those ship called it's called pause, posts, acute,

653
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 6: stressed to something whatever, where you get the symptoms of

654
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: it calling you, Chris Rock, it's calling you. So now

655
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 6: it's like, okay, well damn, you know, how can I

656
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 6: get this? But I know I don't want to do this,

657
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 6: but something going to have to stop me because of

658
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 6: not that pause is coming in.

659
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 8: What was that first.

660
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 7: Meet up with you and Kanye as you're going through

661
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 7: all of this stuff about your mom and he's there

662
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 7: with you and he's been through it, Like what was

663
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 7: that first initial like come here, I got you.

664
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 6: He just told me that when his moms died, he

665
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 6: went to work too.

666
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the music helped all of it. I went

667
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: into the studio.

668
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 6: He had a big twenty five thousand square feet warehouse

669
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: and Slawson right, So we went in there and nixt thing,

670
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 6: you know. It was him and eighty eight keys whatever,

671
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: and the engineer and I just stopped playing music and

672
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 6: he was just like getting excited, and we was like whatever.

673
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 6: And the producer came in and said, you everic before

674
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 6: you came here, we had no vibe, you know what

675
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So whatever was working at the time was

676
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 6: just working, and we just kept me just.

677
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: Doing what we was doing.

678
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 5: What came from those sessions, cause I remember you had

679
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 5: said that Kanye was putting on an album called Why three,

680
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: and Kanye was like, nine.

681
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 6: Right, you have listen, Charla Man, you were The stuff

682
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 6: that we was doing was classic ya samples, beats, rhymes,

683
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 6: the whole nine. Once I came back from burying my

684
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: mother and I flew to Italy, I saw Todd Donalds

685
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 6: sign and I looked.

686
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: On the board. I saw my songs, but all the rest.

687
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 6: Of them was him and Todd donald sign. So they

688
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 6: switched the whole situation. When I was gone, right, anything,

689
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 6: I mean anything about Now they leaked a couple of songs.

690
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: Worship and something else came out that I did, but

691
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: it was a leak.

692
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 5: I always wondered, man, because I don't know for the

693
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 5: people who don't know. Eric Serman discovered red Man. You

694
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 5: heard him mention Keith Murray. Always wondered, if e pm

695
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: D doesn't break up, do we still get Oh my.

696
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: God, Jesus christ Man Yo. Of course, because Reggie was there.

697
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 6: Murray was there too. But I can imagine the five years.

698
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 6: Don't figure this is this is head binger and crossover

699
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 6: just and we out, So imagine the five years in between.

700
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: I wonder what would have happened.

701
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 6: You know what was there other groups that would have

702
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 6: came was the Wu Tang and the chronic would have

703
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 6: been you know, able to you know the rain that

704
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 6: we had was was keeping ready would have been the

705
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 6: new added edition at that moment. Now we oh my god,

706
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 6: you know another one? You know, so five years in between.

707
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 6: I asked that question all the time. I wonder what

708
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: it would have happened. House keep people forget about Jamal Jamal?

709
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: How is you speaking to?

710
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: How's Keith?

711
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: How's keep doing?

712
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's doing he's doing good. I don't really talk

713
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: to him to see him as much though, but he's

714
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: heard from Keith in a minute, yea, yeah, he Well,

715
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 6: Keith had moved down south, you know what I'm saying.

716
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 6: But again, I know that the Depth Squad is in

717
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 6: the talking right now as far as the Death Squad LP,

718
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: so hopefully that does happen. You know what I'm saying again,

719
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 6: Right now where music is at, to me, it's fun,

720
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 6: but I'm not with the system of putting my music

721
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 6: at this time. Would the name through platforms?

722
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Now?

723
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: This album right now is going through a platform because

724
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 6: I happened that three hundred I was signed to and

725
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 6: Warner took it.

726
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: So it's going through the platforms. But that's not my

727
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: future one like that mass Appeal.

728
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: I like what mass Appeal's doing.

729
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 7: I saw you talked about and yeah listen, I like

730
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 7: that too.

731
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 6: I just I just don't I want to make all

732
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 6: the money at this time, because again, listen, the president

733
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 6: of Spotify, not the owner. The president makes He made

734
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 6: three hundred million dollars in twenty twenty four. In twenty

735
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 6: twenty five, he made four hundred and twenty five million dollars,

736
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 6: not the owner, the president.

737
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: President.

738
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: Wow, so we're.

739
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 6: Still making zero zero zero four less than a penny. Right,

740
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: Congress just passed the bill that we get one cent now,

741
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 6: but one cent is one million streams is fourteen grand.

742
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: Right.

743
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 6: If I get fourteen thousand people to give me one dollar,

744
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 6: I make fourteen thousand dollars. I don't know how Jay

745
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 6: said numbers don't lie.

746
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: This is this is the truth.

747
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: So if I get eight thousand fans to give me

748
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 6: two hundred bucks, that means merchandise records. The whole night,

749
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: I made one point six million dollars. I only need

750
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 6: a million people. I only need two hundred thousand, one

751
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 6: hundred thousand. I need eight thousand people. If eight thousand

752
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 6: people give me one hundred dollars, it's eight hundred grand.

753
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: This doesn't make any sense. Dj MB is already a name.

754
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 6: You're already a name already, so at the end of

755
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: the day, you know you got people who gonna support you.

756
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 6: Is the fact that you don't want to take that

757
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 6: shot because again you don't trust it.

758
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: But why not.

759
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 6: You're already popular, so they're gonna support whatever you show them.

760
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 7: You talked about in a rollin Stone article bringing back

761
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 7: giving people a blueprint to certain things. Right, So with

762
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 7: what you just say, So the blueprint that you're telling

763
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 7: are now even new artists, is what create a dot com?

764
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 7: Like create their own streaming? Like what is that business model?

765
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 6: The same thing that you're doing right now that no

766
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 6: matter what, everybody has a www.

767
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter that that never left.

768
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 6: We left the websites because nobody talks about them no more.

769
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 6: But on your website you can have band camp and

770
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 6: shopify and it's the same thing no matter what.

771
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: So this is what you do.

772
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 6: You direct them to that same marketing promotion that you

773
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: would spend how you would market and promote something.

774
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: Now you send them to your website.

775
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 6: Every major show you watch, every major person with a

776
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 6: that is pop well you know that's clothing line, whatever,

777
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: has a WWW and once and when they want you

778
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 6: to look at something, they direct it to their website.

779
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 6: That's the whole thing. The website is back. Make it

780
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 6: dope again, make it colorful, make it the fact that whatever,

781
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 6: make it whatever, and then put your shit on there,

782
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 6: shopify in the band camp or whatever you can use

783
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 6: for them to purchase the situation. And that's the model

784
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 6: that I would use. I'm not saying the new people

785
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 6: because they're going to be harder for somebody who doesn't

786
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 6: have a name, but somebody who already has a name.

787
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you the numbers again. If you got

788
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: a thousand people giving you five dollars, there's the numbers.

789
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 6: You can't lose on that. And you see the people

790
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 6: making you sleep, ess and you're making thirty dousand dollars whatever,

791
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 6: and you resting because this shit that you put out

792
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 6: hat is moving while you're sleeping.

793
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: Jeff yo yo.

794
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 6: But people don't want to do that because they like,

795
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 6: this is what I heard from some artists.

796
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss his name.

797
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 6: Somebody just said, yeah, that's dope though, But I want

798
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 6: people to hear my music worldwide, nigga, you already famous,

799
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 6: meaning that they want to put their music on the

800
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 6: platforms so everybody can hear it. You pass that already.

801
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 8: But you know what what some people get.

802
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 9: You know, I could understand that artist because like if

803
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 9: your if your fan base is used to just getting

804
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 9: it anyway. There's so many subscriptions shit's going on. It's like, yo,

805
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 9: I gotta ask or they gotta pay for something else.

806
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 9: And somebody and people with the fans, like even in

807
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 9: the twitch chat, they always like somebody always selling something

808
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 9: and it's like, you know, how many subscriptions do you

809
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 9: want or can.

810
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: You pay for?

811
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: But yes, but you work hard.

812
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 6: We get up in the morning, we go to work,

813
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 6: I press them buttons, I do all that shit, and

814
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, somebody, would you buy something? Would

815
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 6: you can wage something for a penny?

816
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: Nah? I'm with you.

817
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 6: I get what I'm saying. Like, Yo, I'm giving away

818
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 6: something for less than one cent. Yeah, that's all I'm

819
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: saying now like at this stage, now I'm selling my

820
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 6: ship for less.

821
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: Than a penny. Nah. I can't do that.

822
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: And it feels like robbery.

823
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 5: When I hear artists say the music is the promo

824
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 5: for the tour and the merch, I'm like, nah, you

825
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: should be getting paid off the music.

826
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 6: Charla Man like you mentioned that. That's that right there

827
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 6: is so true. That's what they be saying, which is crazy.

828
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 6: That's also crazy. No, it makes no sense.

829
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: I went to the massive pill shop the other day.

830
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: I dropped some coins. Then what because they had the

831
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: nos illmatic jacket. That's so fire. You know, ghost Face

832
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 5: my favorite artist. So when you're walking around the store,

833
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 5: you like a kid in the candy shop. It's all

834
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 5: of the different merch you want the merch.

835
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 6: You know, certain things I did do Like next year

836
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 6: I got Levi's got the e P M D jacket

837
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 6: EPMD shirt. They signed NAS and they signed the EPM D.

838
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: I did it for like Geenie jackets, Yeah, gene jackets.

839
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 2: But I did it for.

840
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 6: The the leverage of stuff, knowing that there was no money.

841
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know, I don't know when NAS

842
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 6: got paid, but they adn't give me dime.

843
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: I'm lee by, I'm cool, I'm cool, cool.

844
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: But again, the leverage of me having this and then

845
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 6: being able to use that everything is usually too though.

846
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: I know y'all all know about leverage. Leverage is the.

847
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 6: Money will come, but certain things you do to get

848
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 6: into the second door in the third door. Yeah, you

849
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 6: know what, I'm so again, they you know, LEVI called people.

850
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 6: You know, I'm like, hell, yeah, fuck it. You don't

851
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 6: give what it was, but you know they're giving me

852
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 6: two things. The shirt was just the first thing. It's like, oh,

853
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 6: we want to give you a jacket too, and let's

854
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 6: let's do that.

855
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 7: Fucking you know so well all this business success. I

856
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 7: also saw you talk about the artists you could have

857
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 7: signed that you didn't sign, So like fifty cent Rick

858
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 7: ross akon fujis like looking back at that now, like,

859
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 7: first of all, how did you not think to just

860
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 7: do the label and then keep all those artists close

861
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 7: to your chest?

862
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 6: Because you see, this is what I said on one

863
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 6: of my posts that I'm sorry for keep repeating the stories.

864
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 6: But then the beautiful lady asks again, so you're gonna

865
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 6: hear it again for the third podcast.

866
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: You know, at the time.

867
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 6: I was just I had my own groups, so I

868
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 6: didn't look at, you know, what it was what somebody

869
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 6: else was doing.

870
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: I had my own crew. The his squad was my

871
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 2: own crew.

872
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 6: So when when when they was when all of them

873
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 6: was coming to me at the time, I wasn't, you know,

874
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 6: focused on them like that. I kind of listen, man,

875
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 6: the guy got him say but no and be gonna

876
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 6: know too. But no, back there it's like two he

877
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 6: brought me the fujis whatever. I just wasn't at the

878
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 6: time paying attention to it at the time, you know.

879
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 6: But again lucky I didn't because salm Remy without that

880
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 6: probably wouldn't have heard the fujis.

881
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: You know.

882
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: None of those artists that you mentioned excited me.

883
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 5: There's one artist that I always wish was with Eric

884
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 5: Sherman in Hitch Squad who Cannabis. Yeah, he was with me,

885
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: I know, but I wish he would have stayed with

886
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: y'all and did his debut album.

887
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 4: We'd be having a whole other conversation.

888
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 6: But but again, Ross was brought me to me by

889
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 6: Tony Draper, you know, and and he was Teflon, So

890
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 6: I did put him on the ninety nine album as Teflon,

891
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 6: though you know what.

892
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: Happened with cannabis? Why didn't that? Why didn't he stay

893
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: with your.

894
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 6: He signed the White Cleft, Oh yeah, I mean yeah,

895
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 6: but again yeah, the money, the money was offered, I

896
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 6: think it was like a million dollars something like that

897
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 6: was offered to him.

898
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have took the money, take the sound. That

899
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: sound would have been totally different.

900
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 6: But all those groups, the Woutangs, the whole nine to

901
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 6: two again, but no, his father had a church in

902
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 6: Staten Island, you know, for over thirty years, and he

903
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 6: took me to the Whatever project. It was at Whatever,

904
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 6: and I met all and there's a picture I told

905
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 6: you that that's out park Hill is a picture that's

906
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 6: out with me on my eye rock with all them

907
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 6: on it.

908
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: You know, it was out there somewhere and now we

909
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: can't find it.

910
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: But again, you know, I was really gonna sign Ray

911
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 6: Kwan by himself first, but again time go by, you know,

912
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 6: and I ended up getting robed in staff noillis.

913
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: You know.

914
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 9: So with this album is titled Volume one, you got

915
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 9: other volumes.

916
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 6: Coming, yeah, Volume two is coming too, And I just

917
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 6: like looked at it's kind of crazy because I played

918
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 6: a Locks record by mistake on the on another podcast

919
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 6: on you know, on his podcast. Yeah, and I didn't

920
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 6: know that they're going to keep it. So it's playing.

921
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 6: My daughter said, Yo, there was the Locks record. I'm like,

922
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 6: how do you know about that? He said, oh no,

923
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 6: it's on the podcast at the end. So at the

924
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 6: end it played. So I had that as a surprise.

925
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 6: I might be got to make something else if I

926
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 6: don't get popular. But all the CNN, you know.

927
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 4: It's gonna get popular.

928
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 9: You number one, no, no, no, But but I have

929
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 9: all the stuff seeing in Black Star, you know, you know,

930
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 9: I was came in the Locks I told you before.

931
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: Damn a ball. M j G requined ghost face, healter skeleton. No, no, no,

932
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: this is this is no, this is what what whatever? Ego? Yeah, okay,

933
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: it's A. It's a. It's twenty three groups. Right.

934
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 6: The reason why I put on Lil Wayne the game

935
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 6: in Conway is because I'm.

936
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: Also doing making up dynamic duels too.

937
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 6: The Lil Wayne is not on the one that you hearing,

938
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 6: but they played that on Joe and Jay too, and

939
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 6: that's also going. I'm like, god, damn, I can't even

940
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: bring the remix back, you know what I'm saying, like,

941
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 6: you know what, yeah, yeah, but no, but big time

942
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 6: is so people ast me to where's the South groups?

943
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 6: You think I don't want to get you know, you

944
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 6: know UGK Pempcey's right here. I think I want to

945
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 6: get out cast if I could. This is impossible to

946
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 6: get those, So, you know, I didn't want to go

947
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: all in New York. I used three West Coast. I

948
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 6: did dog pounds snooping the Nate Dog in Cyprus Hills

949
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 6: in the game, you know, in the game, yeah four right,

950
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 6: So but I didn't want to go all East. I

951
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 6: could have went that way because my first thing I

952
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 6: wanted to get with Slick Rick and Dougie. I wanted

953
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 6: to make another show part two, just differently my way,

954
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 6: you know, just I had it.

955
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: I called them first and nice and smooth. Again, I didn't.

956
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: I couldn't get I couldn't get the things going at

957
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: the time. But but but I want to do.

958
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: Common and and and what was my god?

959
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: I got to tell you that.

960
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: The common common.

961
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 6: Who black though black? Okay, So I want to make

962
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 6: my duos, put put them together. Do to make sure

963
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 6: he and you know what. I was playing the styles

964
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 6: pre record on your album. You know that beat was

965
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 6: your It was your way before it's time, Okay, anything sposed.

966
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: To sign yes and listen.

967
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: I need you this.

968
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 6: He is gonna sound crazy, but I need to make

969
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 6: sure that we got clickbaits.

970
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: So start something up real quick.

971
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 5: As soon as you're saying, all of the young people here,

972
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 5: when they talk about the Diddy Doc, they be like, yo, man,

973
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: I ain't no didd he was messing with dudes. So

974
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: they'd be like little rod Ex. I'm like, wha, you

975
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: ain't watch the doctor?

976
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: If you say, Eric, I never heard just the perception

977
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: of the doc because the guy that don't know.

978
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm serious.

979
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 7: Perception after that is crazy.

980
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: I'm not even people friend. But I'm not. I'm not

981
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: even mad. I'm not even made right. I never listen.

982
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 6: I don't want to be the interview where it was like, okay,

983
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 6: like you're all have the biggest stars in America and

984
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 6: like and like, and have the people up here that

985
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 6: be saying some other ship.

986
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: That you've got a story already.

987
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 5: You don't have to.

988
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: Let me.

989
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 6: Let me listen. Man, I need I need. I need

990
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 6: to have to click. I need the ship to be.

991
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 9: I need Another young boy.

992
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 5: There was another young another young boy Priaid that was

993
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 5: talking and he was just talking about the Diddy doc

994
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 5: and he was like, yeah, man, dude didn't pay the

995
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: producer two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and the producers

996
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 5: say sometimes he woke up with girls, sometimes he woke

997
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 5: up with boys.

998
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what's the producer? He was like, Eric Sermon,

999
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 4: I said, no, that was little Rod.

1000
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: Oh you said that. Yes, that's what.

1001
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 6: I'm trying to these young people, you know, listen telling me,

1002
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna believe you for a second.

1003
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: To make up some clickba You just told me to

1004
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: make up.

1005
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: Some believe the documentary. Don't say that thought.

1006
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: No, that's my.

1007
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Point to me.

1008
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 8: Want back around.

1009
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 4: You're told you don't even know.

1010
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Don't click My bad.

1011
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: It was addressing.

1012
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: Let's get into a record of that. What do you

1013
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: want to hear that?

1014
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: American is so funny?

1015
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: What you want to play? Let's do sidewalk executives man, Yeah, yeah, and.

1016
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 3: Let's get into it now, Euble, we appreciate you.

1017
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 6: No, no, listen, no, because Charlott mane is not being fair.

1018
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 6: This right here is that's a cool one. But now

1019
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 6: you usually do a lot more, and I feel like

1020
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 6: I'm getting shorted.

1021
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: But you do icon you have real I was here

1022
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: discovered in nineteen ninety seven.

1023
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: You wasn't, No ninety six, I was.

1024
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: I was in ninety nine.

1025
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 8: I got one.

1026
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: You said the nine and nine.

1027
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 7: You said it with stories you told and the doctor

1028
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 7: didn't make it tell us one of those stories?

1029
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 8: Oh no, yeah, what's the other four?

1030
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: No?

1031
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: I didn't do that. You're not doing that? But what it?

1032
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: But j just like can that? Hey just listen, just are

1033
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: you gonna make me boy with you?

1034
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 9: Not?

1035
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 5: I already did it earlier, but I'll say it again.

1036
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 5: When did He drove me around the corners.

1037
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: He thank you. I love it.

1038
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: I know what.

1039
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: I love you.

1040
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 6: Pe, we love you, thank you, we love you.

1041
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: Thank you. Club good, wake that ass up in the morning.

1042
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club