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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old

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Speaker 3: Trapper Beef Jerkey live in New York City. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: January night. I'm Jamie art All. There's Peter Schraeger and

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Speaker 3: Jason mccordy cayle Brand. We're gonna get you in a second.

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Speaker 3: But first, Peter, we have business. We talked about. Michigan

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Speaker 3: football won a national championship last night.

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Speaker 2: Jamie, your husband Sam is in Michigan, Alum.

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Speaker 3: He is your wife Ferkos in Michigan, Michigan, Alum.

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Speaker 4: We are married to Michigan. Last night was special. I

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Speaker 4: watched it with my wife in my living room and

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Speaker 4: my son.

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Speaker 2: Going bonkers like this, Yeah, where did you watch it?

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Speaker 3: I watched it in my bedroom because Sam was there.

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Speaker 3: He was the game with seven of his closest Michigan buddies.

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Speaker 3: They all played different sports at Michigan. They all descended

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Speaker 3: from different parts of the country. But you had to

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Speaker 3: be happy as a Big ten guy. You have a

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Speaker 3: future Big ten school in original Big ten school, and

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Speaker 3: Rutgers is in there somewhere like they're big ten pride. No, Jason,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to make the connection.

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Speaker 2: You happy for of course?

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Speaker 3: No, Like Sam, he could just say like Michigan.

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Speaker 5: For me, I went to sleep.

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Speaker 6: I watch a lot of the games, Okay, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: congratulations to Michigan and Hullball's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is.

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Speaker 5: I love your brother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you like it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Sorry, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Brandt joining us from LA. You know, we thought

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Speaker 3: it would be just a fun, you know, post regular

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Speaker 3: season activity to send Kyle cross country and just try

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Speaker 3: on the show for size from him. There, Kyle, what's

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Speaker 3: going on?

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Speaker 1: We thought it would be fun, and then it got serious.

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Speaker 1: I have to break a little news here, guys. I'm

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Speaker 1: here at the La NFL Hub, which, as you know,

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Speaker 1: is directly next to Sofi Stadium, home of the Rams

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Speaker 1: and Chargers. I get in this morning. It's about three

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Speaker 1: fifteen am. I had to peek in on so far.

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Speaker 1: Just look at the stadium. I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 1: Three point fifteen in the morning. Jim Harbaugh's already here

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Speaker 1: doing quarterback droughs with Justin Herbert. They're out there like

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Speaker 1: he's already here, guys. It's happening right in front of me.

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Speaker 1: Tweeted out, I don't know how he got here that quickly,

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Speaker 1: but he's here already working with Herbert. So it's exciting

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Speaker 1: for Chargers fans.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because he did go.

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Speaker 4: On He went on Van pel afterwards in all seriousness,

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Speaker 4: like what's next to Yeah, and he's like, we're pushing

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Speaker 4: it back a month.

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Speaker 2: We're going to start things in the spring.

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we right, all right, So Kyle, if you

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Speaker 2: saw him, I'm gonna try to get him in here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: good love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he'll love that. Kyle, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you in a beat. Time to the lead block,

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Speaker 3: all right. The Dolphins enter the playoffs. The playoffs is

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Speaker 3: the sixth seed, the unforeseen sixth seed, and they head

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Speaker 3: to Arrowhead to take on the Kansas City Chiefs. Not

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Speaker 3: only did they lose the Dolphins their last two games

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel said yesterday. Xavier Howard will likely be out

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Speaker 7: I don't think the team is gonna expect nor be

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Speaker 7: really give any concern about the fact whether or not

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Speaker 7: people have so many reasons why we can't. We'll focus

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Speaker 3: So they will have to do something special to take

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Speaker 3: as well in Kansas City. Jason, we'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: How can the Dolphins essentially use the word shock the

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Speaker 5: You hate to see that graphic with so many injuries.

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Speaker 6: There's so many guys that have just fallen to the

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Speaker 6: year for so many NFL teams. Everybody's banged up, everybody's

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Speaker 6: going through things. For this Miami Dolphins team, though, it

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Speaker 6: season long has been terrific. His numbers, he's leading the

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Speaker 5: This was the game Sunday night.

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Speaker 6: This is Buffalo. There down seven to against the ball back.

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Speaker 6: There was a minu and fifty three left on the clock.

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Speaker 6: your team. He throws an interception to Tailor rat So

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Speaker 6: much as talked about the Dolphins, they haven't been able

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Speaker 6: to beat good football teams. They've been in games, they've

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Speaker 6: those games. This is a game they let slip by

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Speaker 6: from the Tennessee Titans. There was a menu and forty

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Speaker 6: five left. They were down just a point to against

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Speaker 6: road in the wildcard game. This is a game back

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Speaker 6: in Germany. This is when they played the Chiefs for

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Speaker 6: They're down seven, a terrific game, two minutes and twenty

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Speaker 6: fourth down he drops the snap. There's been nobody that

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Speaker 6: I've talked about how much he's grown, his abilities, his leadership,

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Speaker 6: good NFL quarterback is going to come down to these

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Speaker 6: moments late in the game, a wildcard going to win

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Speaker 6: In order to do so, Toua may have the ball

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Speaker 4: I love it, and I love your confidence into it

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Speaker 4: because you see those situations and he say.

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Speaker 2: Well, he just can't get it done. Well, that's not true.

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Speaker 4: He can't get it done until he does get it

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Speaker 4: but that's what it took to win. You also said

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Speaker 2: There's an algorithm. There's a way to jigger the algorithm.

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Speaker 4: A little bit and come out and say when things

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Speaker 4: a team to watch and here's why. And a Dolphins

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Speaker 4: tell us why we're so good. That was the case

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Speaker 4: all season, you know, the Tyreek MVP talk, the Tua

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Speaker 4: and everyone in our world was on this Dolphins bandwagon

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Speaker 2: That bandwagon's empty, right y, yeah? Why a dust ball just.

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Speaker 4: Blew through the alleyway of that bandwagon and you're looking

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Speaker 4: And to Dolphins fans watching, I would say, this good.

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Speaker 4: You don't want Johnny come lately. You want it to

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Speaker 2: And I almost think the Dolphins team.

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Speaker 4: Needs to look at each other and say the same

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Speaker 4: thing and say, we've got nothing to lose. There are

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Speaker 4: not the passing game, and it's not just relying on Tyree.

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Speaker 4: I watched this Buffalo game and in the first half

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Speaker 4: I thought McDaniel was on fire with the play calls.

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Speaker 4: They were doing all sorts of misdirections, sweeps, tosses, and.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo couldn't stop it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh Allen threw a couple turnovers in the red zone.

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Speaker 4: Miami capitalized. They ran the ball, they controlled the clock.

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Speaker 4: It felt like Buffalo wasn't even on the field. A

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Speaker 4: Chen running up and down, Wilson doing his thing. They

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Speaker 2: And they had this touchdown. You're like, this is they

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Speaker 2: Look at what happened here.

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Speaker 4: Now I understand it's all about circumstances, and there's a

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Speaker 4: game script to start the thing and then it goes

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Speaker 4: off the rails based on what the injuries were.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen rushing attempts in the first half to three in

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Speaker 2: And it's no coincidence. The game got out of their hands.

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Speaker 4: They lost, and Josh Shallon found a way to get

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Speaker 4: this thing done. I'll talk about this game throughout the week,

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Speaker 4: but I would put it out there on Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 4: Dolphins fans, we always say this, nobody believes us. I'm

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Speaker 4: telling you nobody believed nobody. So use that as fuel,

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Speaker 4: use that as motivation. And it's okay to win a

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Speaker 4: game twenty three to twenty with your running back having

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Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty yards and thirty carries. That's how

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Speaker 4: you used to win with Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams

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Speaker 4: and a lot of those guys back in the day.

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Speaker 2: That is not embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: Even if you're this high powered offense, I think you

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Speaker 4: of the game. It's amazing to say, get the ball

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Speaker 1: You're just going on past years. Pay at chance to

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Speaker 3: It's a good point. It's a good point. Kyle Jason

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Speaker 3: What's the latest injury knows in Philadelphia?

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Speaker 8: Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts underwent an X ray that showed

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Speaker 2: This game this past Sunday.

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Speaker 3: While we wait on the future of Bill Belichick. If

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Speaker 6: You look at the Patriots and they have money to spend,

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Speaker 9: They went out and they hired Jimmy Johnson, got a

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Speaker 2: I don't know who that big swing is. You know,

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Speaker 4: You would know better than me, Jason, as a former

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Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know what Gerrod.

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Speaker 5: Mayo was told.

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Speaker 2: They've went foreign four, four and thirteen this year.

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Speaker 2: The shadow of Belichick looms so large.

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Speaker 4: You're stepping into that for the first time in twenty

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Speaker 4: than what we had from Parcels or Belichick. Whoever's coming in.

434
00:18:52,988 --> 00:18:55,468
Speaker 4: I think Craft is great with resources. I think Jason

435
00:18:55,508 --> 00:18:57,948
Speaker 4: could obviously speak to what he means to the players. Yeah,

436
00:18:57,988 --> 00:18:59,828
Speaker 4: I also think Robert Craft is getting any younger, and

437
00:18:59,908 --> 00:19:02,148
Speaker 4: Jonathan Kraft macte be the most important person in that

438
00:19:02,148 --> 00:19:05,748
Speaker 4: conversation as whoever comes in is likely going to grow

439
00:19:05,788 --> 00:19:08,788
Speaker 4: with Jonathan Craft and to his next stage. So I

440
00:19:08,788 --> 00:19:10,548
Speaker 4: think it's a Jonathan Craft thing as much as it

441
00:19:10,628 --> 00:19:11,548
Speaker 4: is a Bobcraft thing.

442
00:19:11,788 --> 00:19:12,548
Speaker 5: No, doubt about it.

443
00:19:12,588 --> 00:19:15,708
Speaker 6: And to your point, Robert Craft RKK, he's a guy

444
00:19:15,748 --> 00:19:18,068
Speaker 6: that's involved in an extent of he's in the locker room,

445
00:19:18,108 --> 00:19:20,188
Speaker 6: he's talking to players, he's sitting in the team meeting room.

446
00:19:20,188 --> 00:19:22,348
Speaker 6: But I do believe he gave Bill to leeway to

447
00:19:22,428 --> 00:19:26,028
Speaker 6: make those football decisions and do things meaningful.

448
00:19:25,548 --> 00:19:26,188
Speaker 5: In that sense.

449
00:19:26,508 --> 00:19:28,588
Speaker 6: But I think to your point, Jonathan Craft is a

450
00:19:28,588 --> 00:19:30,148
Speaker 6: guy that's always around as well.

451
00:19:30,308 --> 00:19:33,548
Speaker 3: Oh, interesting their hands on if you will, Kyle Thoughts

452
00:19:33,548 --> 00:19:35,468
Speaker 3: on New England. I know you're thrilled with our topic

453
00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:36,508
Speaker 3: line up so far today.

454
00:19:37,028 --> 00:19:37,748
Speaker 2: No, it's been great.

455
00:19:37,748 --> 00:19:40,708
Speaker 1: It's interesting though that you know, Jimmy Johnson did replace

456
00:19:40,788 --> 00:19:43,508
Speaker 1: Don Shula, and then if you look at the venerable

457
00:19:43,788 --> 00:19:47,428
Speaker 1: Tom Landry in Dallas, gets who replaced him, Jimmy Johnson.

458
00:19:47,668 --> 00:19:50,028
Speaker 1: So basically the answer is the Patriot should hire Jimmy Johnson.

459
00:19:50,068 --> 00:19:52,228
Speaker 1: I know he's got a great life right now. They

460
00:19:52,268 --> 00:19:55,828
Speaker 1: should hire Jimmy Johnson to be the Patriots coach. Here's

461
00:19:55,828 --> 00:19:58,348
Speaker 1: how I feel. I don't think you do any of

462
00:19:58,428 --> 00:20:00,428
Speaker 1: the people in house. I don't you certainly don't do

463
00:20:00,468 --> 00:20:02,668
Speaker 1: one of Belichick's kids. That would just be like having him.

464
00:20:02,828 --> 00:20:06,348
Speaker 1: I don't like the Girodmeo because it's Belichick and his disciple.

465
00:20:06,388 --> 00:20:09,788
Speaker 1: I also don't think they go with some celebrity hire

466
00:20:09,948 --> 00:20:13,028
Speaker 1: like Jim Harbaugh or even a Sean Payton. Just choose

467
00:20:13,068 --> 00:20:17,708
Speaker 1: a young, damn promising, ambitious offensive coordinator, take a quarterback

468
00:20:17,788 --> 00:20:19,068
Speaker 1: and let him build it, and you know what the

469
00:20:19,108 --> 00:20:21,428
Speaker 1: Patriots have going against them. You know, for the last

470
00:20:21,468 --> 00:20:23,668
Speaker 1: several years, this has been this idea, as the AFCU

471
00:20:23,668 --> 00:20:26,228
Speaker 1: West is constantly changing coaches. It's like, you know, you

472
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:29,508
Speaker 1: got the Mahomes guy there and he ain't going anywhere. Well,

473
00:20:29,508 --> 00:20:31,308
Speaker 1: if you want to come in and join the Patriots,

474
00:20:31,388 --> 00:20:34,148
Speaker 1: who are such a lack of talent that I remember

475
00:20:34,188 --> 00:20:36,188
Speaker 1: this year when Amazon put up one of their faces

476
00:20:36,188 --> 00:20:38,148
Speaker 1: for whoever is promoting the game, I didn't even recognize

477
00:20:38,148 --> 00:20:39,468
Speaker 1: the player. We had to go around the table like

478
00:20:39,548 --> 00:20:41,988
Speaker 1: who the hell is that? So you're coming with that

479
00:20:42,068 --> 00:20:44,428
Speaker 1: roster and you're gonna go in a division in which

480
00:20:44,508 --> 00:20:48,188
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's not going anywhere. The Dolphins machine isn't going anywhere.

481
00:20:48,268 --> 00:20:50,748
Speaker 1: You have to do battle with them for years. Incidentally, guys,

482
00:20:50,948 --> 00:20:53,148
Speaker 1: just putting this out there, the Bills and the Dolphins

483
00:20:53,188 --> 00:20:56,388
Speaker 1: are playing playoff games this weekend which is pretty pertinent.

484
00:20:56,428 --> 00:20:58,308
Speaker 1: So maybe hopefully we'll eventually get to their games. In

485
00:20:58,348 --> 00:21:00,588
Speaker 1: the meantime, Yeah, the Patriots hire some coach great.

486
00:21:00,788 --> 00:21:03,668
Speaker 5: Jawam Bentley was the name called Jawam Bentley.

487
00:21:03,748 --> 00:21:06,748
Speaker 6: He was the guy. I remember that name, Jawan Bentley.

488
00:21:06,748 --> 00:21:08,348
Speaker 6: I've told you this time and time again.

489
00:21:08,468 --> 00:21:09,188
Speaker 3: All right, let's.

490
00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:11,708
Speaker 1: Barbon said I want the Patriots job. I want to

491
00:21:11,708 --> 00:21:14,348
Speaker 1: work with Jawan Bentley. That's why I'm gonna leave Michigan

492
00:21:14,348 --> 00:21:15,308
Speaker 1: for work with Jawan Bentley.

493
00:21:15,348 --> 00:21:15,828
Speaker 5: That's my guy.

494
00:21:16,308 --> 00:21:18,148
Speaker 3: You know what if he did say that, I actually

495
00:21:18,188 --> 00:21:20,348
Speaker 3: couldn't be surprised, like he'd be in the tweeds like that.

496
00:21:20,388 --> 00:21:22,268
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a look at the head coaching vacancies.

497
00:21:22,588 --> 00:21:25,268
Speaker 3: There's five of them, whether it's one of these five

498
00:21:25,308 --> 00:21:28,188
Speaker 3: teams or not. What type of franchise do you think

499
00:21:28,388 --> 00:21:31,788
Speaker 3: would have Bill Belichick as a coveted candidate. Kyle was

500
00:21:31,828 --> 00:21:34,268
Speaker 3: on one yesterday and it's continued over to today. Are

501
00:21:34,308 --> 00:21:36,708
Speaker 3: you really the Panthers? And you're like, yes, let's bring

502
00:21:36,748 --> 00:21:39,308
Speaker 3: in this guy who is gonna make all these decisions.

503
00:21:39,348 --> 00:21:41,988
Speaker 3: He wants the GM job too. Jason, which one of

504
00:21:42,028 --> 00:21:44,588
Speaker 3: these teams organizations do you think? Says please, please, oh

505
00:21:44,628 --> 00:21:45,868
Speaker 3: please give me Bill Belichick.

506
00:21:45,908 --> 00:21:48,508
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna select one of the teams. This is

507
00:21:48,548 --> 00:21:48,908
Speaker 5: the team.

508
00:21:48,988 --> 00:21:53,028
Speaker 6: But Bill Belichick has done so much in this game,

509
00:21:53,068 --> 00:21:56,068
Speaker 6: and he's coached such good teams and been able to

510
00:21:56,108 --> 00:21:59,428
Speaker 6: win championships. Obviously, and even as you've watched them this year,

511
00:21:59,468 --> 00:22:03,028
Speaker 6: the New England Patriots have limited teams from a defensive standpoint.

512
00:22:03,108 --> 00:22:05,068
Speaker 6: A lot of that comes from the scam and the

513
00:22:05,068 --> 00:22:08,468
Speaker 6: things that Belichick teaches. We can go on and on

514
00:22:08,548 --> 00:22:11,468
Speaker 6: about him getting older, does his way still work?

515
00:22:11,588 --> 00:22:13,068
Speaker 5: All this? That, and the third.

516
00:22:13,548 --> 00:22:15,788
Speaker 6: There's gonna be a franchise that's gonna say to themselves,

517
00:22:15,788 --> 00:22:18,308
Speaker 6: you know what, we want a proven commodity to come

518
00:22:18,348 --> 00:22:21,028
Speaker 6: in and lead our football team. We want to coach

519
00:22:21,228 --> 00:22:23,108
Speaker 6: to sit at the helm that knows what it looks

520
00:22:23,148 --> 00:22:25,908
Speaker 6: like when you're building a championship roster, what knows what

521
00:22:26,028 --> 00:22:29,108
Speaker 6: it looks like on a daily basis to get ready

522
00:22:29,148 --> 00:22:31,908
Speaker 6: to perform in a season. And I think there's going

523
00:22:31,948 --> 00:22:33,548
Speaker 6: to be one of these teams that look at Bill

524
00:22:33,588 --> 00:22:36,068
Speaker 6: Belichick where somebody else may say, no, he's old, his

525
00:22:36,148 --> 00:22:38,668
Speaker 6: ways or tired. He wasn't able to develop a Mac Jones,

526
00:22:38,828 --> 00:22:41,428
Speaker 6: a young quarterback after Brady left, but there's gonna be

527
00:22:41,508 --> 00:22:43,588
Speaker 6: somebody that says, you know what, when Brady was there

528
00:22:43,748 --> 00:22:45,708
Speaker 6: and they had the talent, they found a way to

529
00:22:45,788 --> 00:22:49,228
Speaker 6: win year after year after year. When we've watched different

530
00:22:49,228 --> 00:22:51,508
Speaker 6: franchises that seem like they're talented as hell and they're

531
00:22:51,548 --> 00:22:53,268
Speaker 6: going to go on a run, and it is so

532
00:22:53,468 --> 00:22:56,148
Speaker 6: hard to continue that success and get back to that

533
00:22:56,228 --> 00:22:57,428
Speaker 6: big game year after year.

534
00:22:57,508 --> 00:22:59,348
Speaker 5: That's why we haven't seen it replicated.

535
00:22:59,348 --> 00:23:01,788
Speaker 6: The Chiefs have been close since Belichick has done it,

536
00:23:01,868 --> 00:23:03,668
Speaker 6: but it's not the sixth that he has done. So

537
00:23:03,668 --> 00:23:05,468
Speaker 6: I do think there's going to be a franchise that says,

538
00:23:05,468 --> 00:23:07,228
Speaker 6: you know what, this guy has done it, and we

539
00:23:07,228 --> 00:23:08,028
Speaker 6: think he can do it again.

540
00:23:08,068 --> 00:23:11,348
Speaker 4: There's also an option of Belichick stays and coaches and

541
00:23:11,388 --> 00:23:14,068
Speaker 4: they just hire a general manager traditional one. Now how

542
00:23:14,108 --> 00:23:16,548
Speaker 4: that dynamic would work, I don't know, but you say,

543
00:23:16,588 --> 00:23:18,828
Speaker 4: take some of the stuff off his plate. The drafts

544
00:23:18,868 --> 00:23:20,508
Speaker 4: haven't been great the last few years. Let someone else

545
00:23:20,588 --> 00:23:22,428
Speaker 4: run the front office, which would be unique because that's

546
00:23:22,468 --> 00:23:24,548
Speaker 4: not how it's ever been in the last couple of years.

547
00:23:24,588 --> 00:23:26,428
Speaker 4: I also want to correct myself. Pete Carroll was also

548
00:23:26,468 --> 00:23:28,548
Speaker 4: a coach of the New England history. It's also a

549
00:23:28,548 --> 00:23:32,268
Speaker 4: big personality, also dealing with Robert Craft at a good level.

550
00:23:32,628 --> 00:23:33,588
Speaker 2: I just look at Atlanta.

551
00:23:33,988 --> 00:23:36,908
Speaker 4: I don't think I said, Robert Craft isn't getting any younger.

552
00:23:36,908 --> 00:23:38,788
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick's not gotting. I don't think Arthur Blank is

553
00:23:38,788 --> 00:23:40,788
Speaker 4: getting any younger. And I think they've got the pieces there.

554
00:23:40,788 --> 00:23:42,948
Speaker 4: They just need a quarterback. And you can imagine Bill

555
00:23:42,948 --> 00:23:45,668
Speaker 4: Belichick coming in there. So again not coming from a

556
00:23:45,668 --> 00:23:48,308
Speaker 4: place of knowledge on what Atlanta's inner workings are. They

557
00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:50,588
Speaker 4: let go of Arthur Smith, but they built this nice

558
00:23:50,588 --> 00:23:53,428
Speaker 4: stable of offensive talent. They've got a good defense, They've

559
00:23:53,428 --> 00:23:55,788
Speaker 4: got some stuff there, and I think Arthur Blank wants

560
00:23:55,788 --> 00:23:57,468
Speaker 4: to win and has the resources he put in Rich

561
00:23:57,548 --> 00:23:58,588
Speaker 4: McKay and his history.

562
00:23:59,268 --> 00:24:01,228
Speaker 2: What they have there, I think Atlanta would be a

563
00:24:01,228 --> 00:24:03,388
Speaker 2: good fit. But I'm throwing stuff at the wall.

564
00:24:03,468 --> 00:24:03,668
Speaker 5: Yeah.

565
00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,988
Speaker 3: Accounting the third day in Row, Peter has mentioned the

566
00:24:06,068 --> 00:24:13,548
Speaker 3: NFC South as a potential landing spot for Bill Belichick's

567
00:24:13,668 --> 00:24:14,468
Speaker 3: victory formation.

568
00:24:15,548 --> 00:24:17,548
Speaker 2: No, he gives it to Jamal Williams.

569
00:24:17,988 --> 00:24:22,348
Speaker 4: Jamal Williams gets the touchdown you get.

570
00:24:22,148 --> 00:24:23,228
Speaker 2: In a victory formation.

571
00:24:23,468 --> 00:24:27,228
Speaker 5: Look you said no, no, no, no, no, we aren't running again.

572
00:24:27,428 --> 00:24:28,068
Speaker 2: I can tell you this.

573
00:24:28,228 --> 00:24:29,748
Speaker 8: There's been a lot of things that have gone on

574
00:24:29,828 --> 00:24:32,148
Speaker 8: in this series for a long time that would will

575
00:24:32,148 --> 00:24:32,988
Speaker 8: not be forgotten.

576
00:24:33,028 --> 00:24:36,628
Speaker 1: Real sir oh and Arthur spits hot that Dennis Allen

577
00:24:36,908 --> 00:24:38,468
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown at the end.

578
00:24:38,508 --> 00:24:40,588
Speaker 2: He is hot, He said, what are you doing? And

579
00:24:40,708 --> 00:24:42,028
Speaker 2: he's going at Dennis Allen.

580
00:24:42,308 --> 00:24:44,388
Speaker 3: We decided as a team to do it, and man,

581
00:24:44,388 --> 00:24:45,588
Speaker 3: we got an interception in to the one.

582
00:24:45,548 --> 00:24:49,508
Speaker 6: Yard line, you know, like so if if we would score,

583
00:24:49,788 --> 00:24:51,428
Speaker 6: what would have been disrespected for her.

584
00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:56,428
Speaker 2: It's the story that won't go away.

585
00:24:56,668 --> 00:24:59,388
Speaker 4: Two teams that didn't make the playoffs are still hot

586
00:24:59,428 --> 00:25:01,788
Speaker 4: on our minds. It's time to play around of we

587
00:25:01,948 --> 00:25:04,948
Speaker 4: in and we out. We started that cont ending. Then

588
00:25:04,948 --> 00:25:07,348
Speaker 4: we get this yesterday from Jimmy Graham, who was amongst

589
00:25:07,348 --> 00:25:11,628
Speaker 4: many Saints players get off Jamis's back. The man is

590
00:25:11,628 --> 00:25:15,628
Speaker 4: the best teammate I've ever had, loves this city, this game,

591
00:25:15,708 --> 00:25:17,868
Speaker 4: and embodies everything you can ask for in a leader.

592
00:25:18,268 --> 00:25:21,548
Speaker 4: Was a rare situation and we all take responsibility.

593
00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:25,428
Speaker 2: Nobody thought it would get blown out of abortion. Also, but

594
00:25:25,748 --> 00:25:26,988
Speaker 2: the Falcons.

595
00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:31,828
Speaker 4: Ociu Minora, who was a former Falcon player after his

596
00:25:31,868 --> 00:25:35,988
Speaker 4: Giants days, showed a video on his Twitter of him

597
00:25:36,028 --> 00:25:38,828
Speaker 4: returning a touchdown in meetings's garbage time and taking it

598
00:25:38,868 --> 00:25:40,628
Speaker 4: all the way and saying, of course I did that.

599
00:25:40,708 --> 00:25:42,228
Speaker 2: It was against the Saints, It's what we do.

600
00:25:43,788 --> 00:25:46,028
Speaker 4: A lot of pushback on what Jamis did, and for

601
00:25:46,068 --> 00:25:47,668
Speaker 4: the viewer who might be saying, well, what was all that?

602
00:25:48,388 --> 00:25:51,108
Speaker 4: They were in the victory formation, They're up by thirty points,

603
00:25:51,308 --> 00:25:55,508
Speaker 4: last game of the season, and Jamis Winston audibles, overrides

604
00:25:55,548 --> 00:25:58,028
Speaker 4: his head coach Dennis Allen, and hands the ball to

605
00:25:58,108 --> 00:25:59,828
Speaker 4: Jamal Williams so he can get his first touchdown of

606
00:25:59,868 --> 00:26:03,068
Speaker 4: the year. And afterwards there was outraged galore, but Jamis

607
00:26:03,068 --> 00:26:06,188
Speaker 4: stood behind it and said, it's what.

608
00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:08,108
Speaker 2: We all did for the team, for the team.

609
00:26:08,188 --> 00:26:09,628
Speaker 5: Maybe here's the statement.

610
00:26:10,108 --> 00:26:13,548
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston was in the wrong opting.

611
00:26:13,188 --> 00:26:15,948
Speaker 4: To get Jamal Williams that touchdown at a victory formation

612
00:26:16,148 --> 00:26:19,748
Speaker 4: instead of just kneeling like his coach requested.

613
00:26:20,188 --> 00:26:23,868
Speaker 5: Jason out, I'm out, I'm out, He's not in the raw.

614
00:26:24,108 --> 00:26:26,308
Speaker 6: The only thing I would have changed is line up

615
00:26:26,308 --> 00:26:28,868
Speaker 6: in a normal formation. Didn't have to be victory, but

616
00:26:29,428 --> 00:26:31,028
Speaker 6: when all your teammates come and.

617
00:26:30,988 --> 00:26:31,468
Speaker 5: Have your back.

618
00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:33,428
Speaker 6: It was just Jimmy Graham and it was Alvin Kamaria

619
00:26:33,588 --> 00:26:37,228
Speaker 6: was Cam Jordan. They all were riding with Jamis on this.

620
00:26:37,548 --> 00:26:40,188
Speaker 6: Who cares if the Falcons like it? After in the

621
00:26:40,228 --> 00:26:43,108
Speaker 6: locker room with james Is being interviewed, the reporter asks him,

622
00:26:43,228 --> 00:26:45,628
Speaker 6: but you have to play these guys next year? So

623
00:26:45,748 --> 00:26:47,708
Speaker 6: what if I didn't do this? But they have been

624
00:26:47,788 --> 00:26:49,508
Speaker 6: nicer to us next year when we get ready to

625
00:26:49,508 --> 00:26:52,268
Speaker 6: play against them twice a year. No, it's a division game.

626
00:26:52,508 --> 00:26:54,788
Speaker 6: We don't like them. I hope they left a bad

627
00:26:54,828 --> 00:26:57,028
Speaker 6: taste in their mouth. There's other things you can get

628
00:26:57,068 --> 00:26:59,788
Speaker 6: into this. That and the third listen your team, you're

629
00:26:59,828 --> 00:27:01,708
Speaker 6: out there. They didn't decide as a team. They decided

630
00:27:01,708 --> 00:27:03,668
Speaker 6: as an office. The eleven guys on the field. Once

631
00:27:03,708 --> 00:27:06,428
Speaker 6: they decided to when now execute it? Who cares who

632
00:27:06,548 --> 00:27:08,588
Speaker 6: likes it or not? As long as the guys in

633
00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:11,388
Speaker 6: the locker room are riding with Jamis, that is all

634
00:27:11,548 --> 00:27:12,148
Speaker 6: that matters.

635
00:27:12,148 --> 00:27:14,428
Speaker 5: And he's that guy on their team in their locker room.

636
00:27:14,508 --> 00:27:16,828
Speaker 3: Inherently, this question is between a rock and a hard place,

637
00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,028
Speaker 3: because you can either answer I'm out on this, I

638
00:27:19,068 --> 00:27:21,708
Speaker 3: love Jamis and I love you know being a rebel,

639
00:27:22,068 --> 00:27:24,748
Speaker 3: or I say I'm in on the backlash and I'm

640
00:27:24,828 --> 00:27:27,108
Speaker 3: kind of being like an annoying mother goose who like

641
00:27:27,188 --> 00:27:29,908
Speaker 3: says like you shouldn't do that. It's not fair. Unfortunately,

642
00:27:29,908 --> 00:27:32,748
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the latter. I don't love it. I

643
00:27:32,788 --> 00:27:34,828
Speaker 3: don't care about the disrespect towards the Falcons. I care

644
00:27:34,828 --> 00:27:38,028
Speaker 3: about the disrespect for Dennis Allen. You put him in

645
00:27:38,028 --> 00:27:41,428
Speaker 3: a really tough position to have to answer to your

646
00:27:41,508 --> 00:27:44,228
Speaker 3: decision making and you're not even the starting quarterback at

647
00:27:44,228 --> 00:27:46,988
Speaker 3: this point. I understand the aura, beloved member. You know,

648
00:27:47,028 --> 00:27:49,308
Speaker 3: we went through an exercise, yessue, we're just listing off

649
00:27:49,348 --> 00:27:51,148
Speaker 3: other head coaches were like, who do we think could

650
00:27:51,148 --> 00:27:51,788
Speaker 3: have behaved differently?

651
00:27:51,788 --> 00:27:51,908
Speaker 1: Who?

652
00:27:52,188 --> 00:27:53,628
Speaker 3: Who do you think he wouldn't have done that? To?

653
00:27:54,188 --> 00:27:56,508
Speaker 3: What other backup quarterback do we think could have pulled

654
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:59,388
Speaker 3: this off the way Jamis has? And it's like, Jamis,

655
00:27:59,388 --> 00:28:01,868
Speaker 3: I get it, and I love your personality, but like,

656
00:28:02,068 --> 00:28:04,068
Speaker 3: that was a real big reach to put your head

657
00:28:04,068 --> 00:28:06,468
Speaker 3: coach in that position of the answer to that and

658
00:28:06,628 --> 00:28:08,868
Speaker 3: your answer to your answer and locker room was endearing

659
00:28:08,908 --> 00:28:10,628
Speaker 3: in and of itself, but I don't love what it

660
00:28:10,668 --> 00:28:11,428
Speaker 3: did to Dennis Allen.

661
00:28:11,548 --> 00:28:13,588
Speaker 2: Kyle get in here. I know you've got Jamis thoughts

662
00:28:13,588 --> 00:28:14,828
Speaker 2: always yeah.

663
00:28:14,868 --> 00:28:16,788
Speaker 1: I mean, of course I may not being wrong, but

664
00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:18,868
Speaker 1: that's why, exactly why I love it. It's a question of

665
00:28:18,908 --> 00:28:22,588
Speaker 1: branding here. It went from being this, oh my god,

666
00:28:22,628 --> 00:28:25,108
Speaker 1: football atrocity. What are we going to tell the kids?

667
00:28:25,628 --> 00:28:27,828
Speaker 1: And then when you find out Jamis did it, you're like, oh,

668
00:28:27,868 --> 00:28:31,668
Speaker 1: that's just mischief, that's just football mischief, which is perfect.

669
00:28:31,748 --> 00:28:31,988
Speaker 2: Peter.

670
00:28:32,068 --> 00:28:34,548
Speaker 1: I have a comp for Jamis right now. He has

671
00:28:34,628 --> 00:28:38,388
Speaker 1: this sort of Manny Ramirez thing going on where he

672
00:28:38,468 --> 00:28:42,308
Speaker 1: does something ridiculous and it makes him even more beloved

673
00:28:42,348 --> 00:28:46,068
Speaker 1: and it becomes part of his brand. And to Jason's point,

674
00:28:46,148 --> 00:28:48,268
Speaker 1: why don't they just run up and run the play normally?

675
00:28:48,508 --> 00:28:49,668
Speaker 2: Well, Jason, then it might.

676
00:28:49,508 --> 00:28:52,708
Speaker 1: Not have worked, and they're trying to surprise them.

677
00:28:52,988 --> 00:28:55,348
Speaker 2: They don't care. They want to surprise them.

678
00:28:55,668 --> 00:28:57,748
Speaker 1: So when it was a Dennis Allen call, you're like,

679
00:28:57,788 --> 00:29:00,588
Speaker 1: what the hell's Dennis Allen doing? When it's a Jamis thing,

680
00:29:00,828 --> 00:29:03,868
Speaker 1: that's just Jamis being Jamis. It became mischief and who

681
00:29:03,908 --> 00:29:04,388
Speaker 1: doesn't like me?

682
00:29:04,588 --> 00:29:06,708
Speaker 5: Jeff Peter, I agree.

683
00:29:06,708 --> 00:29:08,588
Speaker 4: I think it was fun for us. It's week eighteen

684
00:29:08,748 --> 00:29:10,588
Speaker 4: in the locker room. It's a different story, and for

685
00:29:10,628 --> 00:29:13,388
Speaker 4: Dennis Allen's different story. I had to bring this tweet up.

686
00:29:13,388 --> 00:29:15,828
Speaker 4: We love Brandon Jacobs to former Giants running back, and

687
00:29:15,868 --> 00:29:16,948
Speaker 4: I love our hit chimes and.

688
00:29:16,948 --> 00:29:18,988
Speaker 2: Says Tom Poflin's say victory formation.

689
00:29:19,028 --> 00:29:22,268
Speaker 8: We're taking a knee under zero circumstances when we.

690
00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:24,428
Speaker 2: Run a play, and that's sometimes that one is like,

691
00:29:24,468 --> 00:29:26,868
Speaker 2: you don't mess with Coughlin. Maybe you mess with Dennis Allen.

692
00:29:27,388 --> 00:29:30,428
Speaker 2: Maybe Jamis Winston Pheelsey can mess with Dennis Allen. Sounds

693
00:29:30,428 --> 00:29:32,788
Speaker 2: like Dennis Allen's back. Maybe they could deal with it.

694
00:29:32,788 --> 00:29:33,988
Speaker 2: I don't know if Jamis will be back.

695
00:29:34,308 --> 00:29:36,708
Speaker 4: It made for good fodder and we heard a lot

696
00:29:36,748 --> 00:29:38,668
Speaker 4: of different takes yesterday we had the chime in as well.

697
00:29:38,668 --> 00:29:40,908
Speaker 2: Okay, go from the NFC South to the AFC South.

698
00:29:40,948 --> 00:29:42,348
Speaker 2: We'll change the tenor of the show a little bit.

699
00:29:42,348 --> 00:29:43,668
Speaker 2: We'll get a little more serious. Okay.

700
00:29:43,868 --> 00:29:46,668
Speaker 4: The Jaguars became just the sixth team in the last

701
00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:49,228
Speaker 4: twenty five years to start eight and three or better

702
00:29:49,508 --> 00:29:52,188
Speaker 4: and then go on to miss the playoffs and epic collapse,

703
00:29:52,628 --> 00:29:55,028
Speaker 4: which I asked to you guys. The Jaguars had the

704
00:29:55,068 --> 00:29:57,828
Speaker 4: most disappointing season when you look at it in totality

705
00:29:58,108 --> 00:30:00,028
Speaker 4: of any of the teams in the NFL in the

706
00:30:00,068 --> 00:30:01,468
Speaker 4: twenty twenty thirty season.

707
00:30:01,788 --> 00:30:04,588
Speaker 5: I am in on this. I went back and four.

708
00:30:04,588 --> 00:30:07,428
Speaker 6: I was like, all right, the Chargers that had high expectations,

709
00:30:07,428 --> 00:30:09,708
Speaker 6: there was justin Herber Brandon Staley.

710
00:30:09,748 --> 00:30:10,988
Speaker 5: They couldn't get everything going.

711
00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:13,908
Speaker 6: But the fact that you said the Jaguars were eight

712
00:30:13,988 --> 00:30:16,508
Speaker 6: and three throughout the course of this season, there was

713
00:30:16,508 --> 00:30:18,588
Speaker 6: a time where we were talking about their path to

714
00:30:18,668 --> 00:30:21,228
Speaker 6: the number one seed and how they could get through,

715
00:30:21,308 --> 00:30:24,308
Speaker 6: especially playing in the AFC South and the young quarterbacks.

716
00:30:24,348 --> 00:30:26,748
Speaker 6: This that, and that they're such high expectations for Trevor

717
00:30:26,828 --> 00:30:29,668
Speaker 6: Lawrence to take the next step. In the middle of December,

718
00:30:29,788 --> 00:30:34,788
Speaker 6: the Jaguars were tweeting out that playoff tickets were on sale, go.

719
00:30:34,668 --> 00:30:38,028
Speaker 5: And get them now. They did that they are not

720
00:30:38,388 --> 00:30:39,308
Speaker 5: in the playoffs.

721
00:30:39,988 --> 00:30:42,348
Speaker 6: This was a collapse under Doug Peterson that you just

722
00:30:42,388 --> 00:30:46,028
Speaker 6: not did not expect Trevor Lawrence's play and missing Calvin

723
00:30:46,068 --> 00:30:46,748
Speaker 6: Ridley on the pass.

724
00:30:47,148 --> 00:30:48,468
Speaker 5: They also a the Tendessee Times, who.

725
00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:51,388
Speaker 6: Were out the playoffs in Week eighteen and just played spoiler.

726
00:30:51,428 --> 00:30:53,908
Speaker 6: Definitely the most disappointing team of the twenty twenty three season.

727
00:30:53,988 --> 00:30:56,268
Speaker 3: Well, the Daguars may have been doing that, but Jets

728
00:30:56,348 --> 00:30:59,748
Speaker 3: fans were canceling their snowbird reservations in Boca because they

729
00:30:59,748 --> 00:31:02,428
Speaker 3: were planning on the Jet skiing in the postseason. In January,

730
00:31:02,468 --> 00:31:07,108
Speaker 3: disappointing season goes to j e Yes, it never even started. Jets, Jets, Jets.

731
00:31:07,348 --> 00:31:10,828
Speaker 3: The epic fall that happened in a matter of four

732
00:31:10,868 --> 00:31:13,388
Speaker 3: minutes on Monday night football in Week one was greater

733
00:31:13,468 --> 00:31:15,988
Speaker 3: than any other collapse I think in terms of expectation

734
00:31:16,068 --> 00:31:16,748
Speaker 3: to disappointment.

735
00:31:16,948 --> 00:31:17,748
Speaker 2: And I never rebounded.

736
00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,908
Speaker 4: A lot of teams rebounded, right, The Browns found a

737
00:31:19,908 --> 00:31:22,748
Speaker 4: way to rebound, and you know so many backup quarterbacks.

738
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:26,428
Speaker 4: The Jet's just never had that moment. I still look

739
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:29,268
Speaker 4: at the Eagles and they're in the playoffs, and I'm

740
00:31:29,268 --> 00:31:32,308
Speaker 4: saying it's disappointing because they were ten and one, and

741
00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,588
Speaker 4: I guess it's still to be written, and I guess

742
00:31:34,668 --> 00:31:36,708
Speaker 4: this will be used as a freezing cold take when

743
00:31:36,748 --> 00:31:38,228
Speaker 4: they go on their run and I'll be wearing the

744
00:31:38,268 --> 00:31:40,468
Speaker 4: dog mask and the whole thing. But if you're telling me,

745
00:31:40,748 --> 00:31:42,468
Speaker 4: as we head to the playoffs right now, which fan

746
00:31:42,508 --> 00:31:44,268
Speaker 4: base has the worst taste in their mouth, it might

747
00:31:44,308 --> 00:31:46,228
Speaker 4: be the Eagles, even though they've got football to play.

748
00:31:46,228 --> 00:31:49,988
Speaker 4: On Monday, Kyle, there's three teams mentioned, we got twenty

749
00:31:50,068 --> 00:31:50,468
Speaker 4: nine more.

750
00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:51,188
Speaker 2: Who you go with?

751
00:31:51,668 --> 00:31:54,708
Speaker 1: First of all, Brandon Jacobs. If it's the last week

752
00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:57,188
Speaker 1: of the season and the Giants and the Eagles are

753
00:31:57,188 --> 00:31:59,228
Speaker 1: playing each other and neither one's going to the playoffs,

754
00:31:59,228 --> 00:32:01,348
Speaker 1: and you're on the one yard line and you, Brandon Jacobs,

755
00:32:01,348 --> 00:32:03,428
Speaker 1: don't have a single touchdown all year, and Cofflin says,

756
00:32:03,428 --> 00:32:05,908
Speaker 1: take any tell me Eli wouldn't get that twinkle in

757
00:32:05,988 --> 00:32:07,868
Speaker 1: his eye and say screw it. Let's give it to Jacobs.

758
00:32:07,868 --> 00:32:10,228
Speaker 1: Be can screw the Eagles. You're lying, I don't care.

759
00:32:10,268 --> 00:32:12,148
Speaker 1: Don't come in here with that stuff. By the way, Peter,

760
00:32:12,188 --> 00:32:14,148
Speaker 1: I agree, it's the Eagles most disappointing team. The team

761
00:32:14,148 --> 00:32:17,188
Speaker 1: already in the playoffs still most disappointing. Brendon Jacobs, I

762
00:32:17,228 --> 00:32:18,748
Speaker 1: love you. I'm a little afraid of you. I'm calling

763
00:32:18,788 --> 00:32:19,348
Speaker 1: bs on you.

764
00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:25,908
Speaker 3: So, as you've all been informed, exit meetings are wrapping

765
00:32:26,028 --> 00:32:28,268
Speaker 3: up this week as teams that won't be heading the

766
00:32:28,308 --> 00:32:30,748
Speaker 3: playoffs shift their focused to the future. One of those

767
00:32:30,748 --> 00:32:34,188
Speaker 3: teams is the Minnesota Vikings. Yesterday, their quarterback and your quarterback,

768
00:32:34,268 --> 00:32:37,508
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, was asked about his future in Minnesota and

769
00:32:37,548 --> 00:32:40,308
Speaker 3: if he would take less money to stay amongst the

770
00:32:40,308 --> 00:32:41,148
Speaker 3: ten thousand leagues.

771
00:32:42,228 --> 00:32:44,748
Speaker 10: I think that God has blessed me financially beyond my

772
00:32:44,828 --> 00:32:48,948
Speaker 10: wildest dreams. So at this stage in my career, the

773
00:32:49,068 --> 00:32:52,428
Speaker 10: dollars are really not what it's about. I'm not going

774
00:32:52,508 --> 00:32:55,668
Speaker 10: to try to sell myself, if you will, I think

775
00:32:55,828 --> 00:32:59,588
Speaker 10: if I kind of like to let people make their

776
00:32:59,588 --> 00:33:02,788
Speaker 10: own decisions, because I do think that the league needs quarterbacks,

777
00:33:03,228 --> 00:33:05,668
Speaker 10: and if you're trying to talk yourself out of a quarterback,

778
00:33:05,748 --> 00:33:07,708
Speaker 10: then I can't help you much.

779
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,228
Speaker 3: Shout out Darren Wolfson and Don Mitchell with the long

780
00:33:12,308 --> 00:33:13,948
Speaker 3: mike hold in the back there, it's tough to get

781
00:33:13,988 --> 00:33:15,828
Speaker 3: that sound. Kirk Cousins is going to be a free

782
00:33:15,828 --> 00:33:18,708
Speaker 3: agent once again this offseason. Once again he will be

783
00:33:18,748 --> 00:33:21,468
Speaker 3: looking to see who has a spot for him. Guys,

784
00:33:21,468 --> 00:33:24,108
Speaker 3: your response though, to hearing the translation of that, Jason.

785
00:33:23,868 --> 00:33:25,388
Speaker 6: I think it gets to a point in your career

786
00:33:25,428 --> 00:33:27,588
Speaker 6: where you're an old while evet. You've made the most

787
00:33:27,628 --> 00:33:29,788
Speaker 6: money that you're probably going to make on the contracts

788
00:33:29,868 --> 00:33:31,988
Speaker 6: leading up. And for Kirk Cousins, he's a free agent

789
00:33:32,028 --> 00:33:34,548
Speaker 6: because Minnesota decided not to extend them, so when I

790
00:33:34,588 --> 00:33:37,068
Speaker 6: hear him say that, like quarterbacks are needed, and you're

791
00:33:37,108 --> 00:33:40,228
Speaker 6: trying to talk yourself out of a quarterback. He's been

792
00:33:40,268 --> 00:33:42,508
Speaker 6: there in Minnesota, He's put up great numbers. I know

793
00:33:42,548 --> 00:33:44,588
Speaker 6: they haven't won the big game, and you can blame

794
00:33:44,668 --> 00:33:47,108
Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins all you want, but what he's saying is

795
00:33:47,148 --> 00:33:49,788
Speaker 6: if I've been here all along, if you guys are

796
00:33:49,828 --> 00:33:52,668
Speaker 6: talking yourself out of keeping me here, then the hell

797
00:33:52,748 --> 00:33:54,988
Speaker 6: with it. It doesn't matter what the contract looks like, what

798
00:33:55,028 --> 00:33:57,948
Speaker 6: the money looks like. I'll find a place somewhere because

799
00:33:58,068 --> 00:34:01,508
Speaker 6: quarterbacks like myself are needed in this league. That was

800
00:34:01,548 --> 00:34:03,468
Speaker 6: my biggest takeaway. I didn't look at it as a

801
00:34:03,508 --> 00:34:06,628
Speaker 6: hometown disc or anything. It was more about the value

802
00:34:06,828 --> 00:34:07,348
Speaker 6: that they have.

803
00:34:07,428 --> 00:34:08,348
Speaker 5: In Kirk Cousins.

804
00:34:08,588 --> 00:34:11,108
Speaker 2: I think about the businessmen of the NFL.

805
00:34:11,108 --> 00:34:13,348
Speaker 4: We always talk about the backup quarterbacks, how they stacked

806
00:34:13,348 --> 00:34:16,028
Speaker 4: these careers. Whether he chas Daniel Josh McCown and make

807
00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:18,228
Speaker 4: all this money, then I think of the big money

808
00:34:18,748 --> 00:34:21,028
Speaker 4: and I think of Darrell Reeves the way he did it.

809
00:34:21,308 --> 00:34:22,748
Speaker 4: He would go year to year and be like, pay

810
00:34:22,788 --> 00:34:24,468
Speaker 4: me twenty million. I'll be the best corner in football,

811
00:34:24,468 --> 00:34:25,828
Speaker 4: and I'll do it. For another team next year. I'm

812
00:34:25,828 --> 00:34:27,548
Speaker 4: a hired gun. You tell me where to go. I'm

813
00:34:27,588 --> 00:34:29,068
Speaker 4: gonna make the most money, and I think I have.

814
00:34:29,188 --> 00:34:31,508
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins has managed his career financially and it was

815
00:34:31,868 --> 00:34:32,708
Speaker 4: franchise tag.

816
00:34:32,828 --> 00:34:34,308
Speaker 2: Was offered a low deal. I don't want it. I'll

817
00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:35,948
Speaker 2: play on the franchise tag twenty.

818
00:34:35,708 --> 00:34:37,988
Speaker 4: Five million, twenty five million, and then he gets the

819
00:34:38,028 --> 00:34:39,708
Speaker 4: massive deal of on the Vikings and he does a

820
00:34:39,748 --> 00:34:42,348
Speaker 4: short term deal where it's even bigger from the Vikings,

821
00:34:42,348 --> 00:34:44,268
Speaker 4: and you know what, he'll get the same thing again.

822
00:34:44,308 --> 00:34:45,788
Speaker 2: He's not made the most money of his career. I

823
00:34:45,828 --> 00:34:47,628
Speaker 2: think he's going to get the biggest contract he's had.

824
00:34:47,828 --> 00:34:49,908
Speaker 4: And you know what, when you see how Minnesota played

825
00:34:49,948 --> 00:34:51,828
Speaker 4: without him on the field, totally missing the playoffs and

826
00:34:51,868 --> 00:34:53,948
Speaker 4: having no thing at the end of the season, they

827
00:34:53,948 --> 00:34:56,388
Speaker 4: missed him a lot. Guess what, The grass isn't always greener.

828
00:34:56,388 --> 00:34:58,348
Speaker 4: I would sign Kirk Cousins right now from the Vikings.

829
00:34:58,468 --> 00:34:59,628
Speaker 3: Kyle, what do you think.

830
00:35:00,068 --> 00:35:02,788
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings would have moon walked into the

831
00:35:02,788 --> 00:35:05,028
Speaker 1: playoffs with Kirk Cousins this year. I really mean that

832
00:35:05,068 --> 00:35:07,428
Speaker 1: he would have been doing a full breakdance into the playoffs.

833
00:35:07,468 --> 00:35:09,308
Speaker 1: The season which they didn't have justin Jeferson for most

834
00:35:09,308 --> 00:35:11,468
Speaker 1: of the year. I think if you have a quarterback

835
00:35:11,508 --> 00:35:13,668
Speaker 1: who can get you to the playoffs, you pay him

836
00:35:13,868 --> 00:35:15,868
Speaker 1: and he can do it. And he did it last year.

837
00:35:15,908 --> 00:35:17,228
Speaker 1: He would have done it this year. I think he'll

838
00:35:17,228 --> 00:35:19,388
Speaker 1: do it next year. I always kind of have amused

839
00:35:19,428 --> 00:35:22,108
Speaker 1: when anybody starts to go down that road of you know,

840
00:35:22,268 --> 00:35:25,308
Speaker 1: at this point in my career, it's just not about

841
00:35:25,348 --> 00:35:28,028
Speaker 1: the dollars. And he says, you know, God has blessed

842
00:35:28,028 --> 00:35:30,388
Speaker 1: me financially so much. He also knows that I'm the

843
00:35:30,388 --> 00:35:32,468
Speaker 1: dollar bill and says, in God we trust. And cousin

844
00:35:32,548 --> 00:35:34,148
Speaker 1: is going to say that and probably signed for sixty

845
00:35:34,148 --> 00:35:36,348
Speaker 1: one million a year somewhere because it's what he does

846
00:35:36,548 --> 00:35:38,588
Speaker 1: and he'll get it. I hope he stays in Minnesota.

847
00:35:38,588 --> 00:35:40,548
Speaker 1: I hope they pay him. But I'm always a little

848
00:35:40,548 --> 00:35:43,428
Speaker 1: reticent to agree with you. It's not about dollars this point.

849
00:35:43,508 --> 00:35:45,788
Speaker 1: We'll see sign on the line, which is dot at Kirk,

850
00:35:45,788 --> 00:35:46,548
Speaker 1: we see you working.

851
00:35:47,828 --> 00:35:49,548
Speaker 3: So he said to become a free agent March. He

852
00:35:49,628 --> 00:35:52,628
Speaker 3: tore his achilles last October twenty ninth, the twenty twenty

853
00:35:52,668 --> 00:35:55,268
Speaker 3: four trade deadline in the NFL is October thirty first

854
00:35:55,268 --> 00:35:58,028
Speaker 3: this year, this quarterback is going to become healthy again

855
00:35:58,148 --> 00:36:00,908
Speaker 3: sometime in the month of September October, if you're lucky

856
00:36:00,948 --> 00:36:04,268
Speaker 3: it's September. You're making a huge financial decision on somebody

857
00:36:04,428 --> 00:36:05,868
Speaker 3: that you don't know the where with all of this

858
00:36:06,148 --> 00:36:11,388
Speaker 3: massively important ligament for this position. I just the Vikings

859
00:36:11,388 --> 00:36:13,588
Speaker 3: are in a tough spot. They're in a really tough spot.

860
00:36:13,868 --> 00:36:16,268
Speaker 3: Any tougher without him, sure, but like he's coming back

861
00:36:16,268 --> 00:36:16,548
Speaker 3: from them.

862
00:36:16,628 --> 00:36:18,908
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a tough s all right, Well,

863
00:36:19,228 --> 00:36:20,868
Speaker 2: they don't have a tough ten. Where are they going?

864
00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:22,028
Speaker 2: He's got better