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Speaker 1: So where would you where'd you want to take this? So, Okay,

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Speaker 1: to get something going and it just wasn't there. They're

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00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: the driving lanes weren't there. And then he he shot

431
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: five quick jumpers, if you remember, and I think he

432
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: made one of them. He made the third, the three,

433
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: And it's like that that that was what it was

434
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: gonna be. You know, I was thinking a lot before

435
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,959
Speaker 1: the game, but you know, what would a bad Lebron

436
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: game look like? And I thought it would be just

437
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: miss jump shots and maybe some bad body language. But

438
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 1: you can depend on him to do the other things right,

439
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 1: Like Lebron is not gonna completely shrink away from an

440
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: up big game. You know, but he had some limitations

441
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: in his ability to get into the paint that was

442
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: magnified by the lack of spacing, and he tried to

443
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: get it going with the jump shot early on. Like

444
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: if he has that same third quarter jump shooting stretch

445
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: but in the but in the first quarter, maybe it

446
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: gives enough, you know, belief to the role players that

447
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: they hang onto the rope and that and that's what

448
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: what you hope for. So Lebron, I think in game

449
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: in game six, has to be extremely aggressive early and

450
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: send the message to his team that you know, we're

451
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: not letting go of the rope tonight. But but I mean,

452
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Guys don't make shots and guys don't

453
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: take you know, do their job, it's not gonna work. Right.

454
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people are asking for like a forty

455
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: five point gamer from Lebron tonight, right like they wanted

456
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: him to kind of go off on his scoring get

457
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: plus assists. That just doesn't happen without guys hinting shots

458
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: like they just have to or the Leakers are going home.

459
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: Um and hopefully going home helps that, but I don't

460
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: know how much it will. They're shooting something on open

461
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: jumpers before tonight, I haven't looked at the numbers tonight.

462
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: They're probably even worse. Um, but those dudes have the

463
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: gay shots, and uh, like Lebron has nothing else to

464
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: say for like there's no game after game six, Like

465
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 1: like tonight, he can kind of, you know, sell himself

466
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 1: that there's another game a D come back when we

467
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: hold it for that one, um, But there's nothing after

468
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: game six, So we're gonna get the full Lebron. We're

469
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna know whether or not he has that capability in him. Um.

470
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: I think there's still there's still a gear there that

471
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: he can go to, right, there's still gear where he

472
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: can get to the rim um at a at a

473
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: certain point where Phoenix um can't stop him even though

474
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: they're packing the paint like crazy. But I think there's

475
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: still another gear he can get to, another aggressiveness that

476
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: he can get to hopefully in game six. But guys

477
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: have to hit their shots and they can't be scared, um,

478
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: And I think they look at the film and realize

479
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: that and hopefully a D can play Like That's the

480
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: main thing. Like my main takeaway kind of from tonight

481
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: was like we can't defend them kind of without a

482
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: D like that was kind of the little lost c

483
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: it in tonight as well. You just look at the

484
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: floor man, and just the way where their defend. We're

485
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: defending screen coverages like we need a D as the

486
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: help guy. We just don't know what we're doing off

487
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: the ball without it. These lineups just have not played together.

488
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: And it's kind of why I wanted to see Gasaw start,

489
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: just to give Lebron that spacing early. Right, It felt

490
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: like once once Kasaul came in, the crowd was already

491
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: super into it. Booker was in a flow like it

492
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: was just a game was over by that time. It

493
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: felt like even though it was just we were down

494
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: like fifteen or something like that. So that's where I

495
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: want to kind of see going into game six, Um,

496
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: do you have anything else from today? Are going to

497
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: gain six? Bring me the first person? You can bring

498
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: the first person up. I think I think you made

499
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: a really good point, like starting gas Saul in hopes

500
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: of getting Lebron driving lanes early, Um might have been

501
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: the smarter move, But I mean I hope it might be.

502
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: It might be too late, you know that, that's the

503
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: hard part. Like Frank, Frank was slow with adjustments for

504
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: the entirety of the last two years, you'd always do them,

505
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: but he wait till the last uphole minute, and and

506
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: I I would hope that he makes that adjustment for

507
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: Game six, but man like, like, who knows, And at

508
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: this point it just might be too late. It's it's

509
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: hard to even really, you know, bridge the gap mentally

510
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: to figure out how the Lakers could win this series

511
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: at this point, Like you have to somehow play ten

512
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: times better in game six than you did tonight, and

513
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: then you have to somehow go into Phoenix in game

514
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: in game seven and get a win. I mean, Lebron

515
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: has done it before. They went down to Boston in

516
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: Game five in two thousand and eighteen and got rolled,

517
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: and then they they had a crazy game in game six,

518
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: and then he went into Boston in Game seven and

519
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, those young Celtics players got really

520
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: cold in the moment. But that team didn't have Chris

521
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: Paul right, and that team wasn't as good as this

522
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns team is. So it's like, like you said,

523
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: it's just they have an enormous task ahead of them

524
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: at this point. And I you said, I think Lebron

525
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: has this other gear to get to agree with you

526
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, and I'm not a hundred percent sure

527
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: that he has that gear right now, and and I'm

528
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: not sure that he will be able to tap into

529
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: that in a way that he could have if you know,

530
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: someone Hill didn't dive into his ankle. Well, let's see

531
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: on a game state. Are you there? Yeah, I'm here, man,

532
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: what's up Fellas? Hey? Um? Just yeah, man, just watching

533
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: the game and yeah to him, I just think Braun

534
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: is this whole year. Man, it's just been so clunky

535
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: and so it's just it's just been so different than

536
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: last year with the cohesion and man, I just I mean,

537
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give up on Bron, but man, that

538
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough on on Thursday night. Man, we

539
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: just need somebody to to step up. And the problem is,

540
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, when I thought a guy like Russo and

541
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: it's just like man, who can step up? This team

542
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: has not been able to exhibit any type of cohesion.

543
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: And I'm concerned that that the Laker is gonna go home. Man.

544
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: So I hope not, but I'm just not feeling optimistic.

545
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: You know, Roger and I are both Lakers optimists, you know,

546
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: we really are, and I am still optimistic about the

547
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: future of this team. Um. I think that when you

548
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: actually when we actually reflect on this season, and I'm

549
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: sure Rog and I will do a special podcast after

550
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: the season, you know, whether that's in July or or

551
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: in a few days, we'll see, but I think we'll

552
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: look back on it, and when we'll look back, we'll realize,

553
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: you know a lot about how just how term, you know,

554
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: how much turmoil there was this year. And I'm a

555
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: big believer that Lebron is going to age gracefully and

556
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to be a top

557
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: five player in his late thirties. I really believe that.

558
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: I believe that Anthony Davis will figure out how to

559
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: stay healthy. I feel like that's gonna be his number

560
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: one goal this offseason. And I feel like Anthony Davis

561
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: is gonna be great. I like t HD, I like

562
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: I like Rob Polinka and what he what his plan is,

563
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: and I like Frank Is the coach, and I like

564
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: these role players. I'm a Lakers optimist, but this team

565
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: isn't the Lakers right now. This is this is a

566
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: hurt Lebron. This is no A D. This is Dennis

567
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: is completely getting out played by the backup point guards

568
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: by the from the Phoenix Suns. This is Dennis, you know,

569
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: did some stupid COVID stuff and and killed his rhythm

570
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: and and lost two weeks right before the postseason, and

571
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: god knows if he'll even be on the roster next year.

572
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: And this is every role player on the rock on

573
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: the roster going completely stone cold from three and so

574
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: all like, this is not what the Lakers we know

575
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, So the optimism has

576
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: to lie in what can you not what this is

577
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: right now? And I don't even want to talk about

578
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: you went into the off season a lot there. I

579
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: don't even want to go into the off season yet.

580
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: But when I look at like this season, I guess

581
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: just looking for the forest through the trees. It just

582
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: feels like the championship was kind of the sacrifice UM

583
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: for this season, right. A D was never himself this season,

584
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: Like I just never thought he was. Um, I just

585
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: never thought he got and then he kind of rhythm

586
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: to be what he was last year even when we

587
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: started twenty one and six. So that's kind of how

588
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: I see this season and maybe that's how it ends.

589
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: But there's still another game, Like, you're still alive, you

590
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: have Lebron James, there's still adjustments to be made. Um,

591
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: whether you lose by one or lose by thirty, you

592
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: only get one lost word in the playoffs, So we

593
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: have another game left. So I don't I don't want

594
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: to really go into all season stuff. Yeah, I still

595
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: kind of want to kind of keep it on this

596
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: this season, even how treasurers treasurers it kind of turned into.

597
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's kind of where I'm at here. I'm

598
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: not sure by that is just that, like I I

599
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: think that you and I are off to this. Yeah,

600
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: I think, And I was using the off season, we're

601
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: really just the future of the team to say to

602
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: say that we are optimists. I'm just saying I think

603
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: you and I are both also realists and we acknowledge

604
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation right now. Appreciate you, Joe.

605
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna trying to get get some more people up here.

606
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people requested here, let's see, trying to

607
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: go in some kind of order. Jordan, are you there?

608
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: Looks like it, Hey, can you hear me? I can

609
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: hear you? What's going on? Many? Um? So obviously that

610
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: was a pretty bad loss, real frustrating. Um, But I

611
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: was just wondering, um, how how I don't know you

612
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: guys probably answered this a little bit um before. But

613
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: how confident are you guys now, like and and for

614
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: games six and then for game seven. I'm fairly confident, um,

615
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: But yeah, how confident are you guys if we can

616
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: that we can tune this around. I'm on game six

617
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: mode right now, like game seven. It feels so far away,

618
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: like that feels like, you know, like a bridge that

619
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: I can't even see right now, Like Game six should

620
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: be the focus, and I think we can win Game

621
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: six one game. It's at home. You know, roll role

622
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: players tend to shoot better at home. They're supposed to.

623
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: These open shots are supposed to fall in like this

624
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: sample that we've kind of created, although there's only one

625
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: kind of game sample left, but you know, these open

626
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: shots should go if they take them confidently. And I

627
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: think Lebron will have the team ready, um A D

628
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: hopefully will play. That's where I'm at. It's a winnable game,

629
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: like it just is home game there. It's gonna be

630
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: a tough one, but I think it's winnable, and that's

631
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: where I'm at with this. I'm not sure. The game

632
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: seven feels like such a far cry away from me,

633
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: Like I can't even can't think about it. How about you, Jason,

634
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm with you. They can win Game six, that's certainly

635
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: in the cards, and then from there anything can happen.

636
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: In a Game seven with Lebron, So I would say that,

637
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, any other team, i'd probably say that it's

638
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: not over, but that it's looking extremely bleak at this point.

639
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: I would say that it's still bleak, but that the

640
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: Lakers certainly can win. It's just what you're asking them

641
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: to do is you're asking them to win a game

642
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: at home, which they absolutely can do, But then they

643
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: have to go and do exactly the same environment as

644
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: tonight into an even higher pressure game and they have

645
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: to be fifty times better than they were tonight. You know.

646
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: So that's that's where that's where it gets complicated. But

647
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, um, i'd like, like Roger said, it starts,

648
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: it starts with Thursday. Yeah, I mean, the odds are

649
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: in our favor, right, Like those shots like they got

650
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: to go down soon or later, right, So hopefully hopefully

651
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: that song getting in game six. So yeah, but no,

652
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: thanks for answering that. Thanks Jordan. We appreciate you coming

653
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: on man there. Yeah, I was trying to get the

654
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: next person up here. Thank you, Johny. I appreciate it. Nick.

655
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: See if I can get multiple people and then kind

656
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: of take turns. Have to wait. I guess while we're waiting,

657
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: what do you think about tread Oh? I guess Jay's Jake?

658
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Can you hear us? Yeah? What's going on? Man? Ah?

659
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: It's tough, h Like I had how hope to this game.

660
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: I really thought we like, if we didn't come out

661
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: and with the knockout punting game one, we wasn't gonna win.

662
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: In quarter one, we wasn't gonna win. And after that

663
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: second quarter, I just turned the game because I knew

664
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: it was going to game six. You can tell that

665
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: in the body, legs and everything. And Dennis, I'm so

666
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: glad he turned down that extension because if we need

667
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: to pay him, it would have been so mad like

668
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: because it's it's to the point like if you're not

669
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you're not scoring, what do you want to call for?

670
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: You just hurting the team? Oh for nine And in

671
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: the game that we really needed going back to Staples.

672
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's sad, but I think we're gonna pull

673
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: it out in seven if a d comes back. But

674
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: it's looking bleak, like you said, yeah, I just want

675
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: to quickly like for Dennis, like like he hasn't played

676
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: well and we need more from him. He had two

677
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: awesome games though on Game two in game three, like

678
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: we needed all his points in that we don't win

679
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: game two or game three without him. So he had

680
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: an awesome those two games. He was confident. I don't

681
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: know what happened, and without a d R mark it

682
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: for air and scoring is just so low, um that

683
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: we needed to kind of perform. But you're right, the

684
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: body language was terrible, and Jason had talked about it. It

685
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: It looked bleak right when they started. They didn't look

686
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: like they believe. Devin book great. A few shots and

687
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: it looked like that was it, Like they just packed

688
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: it up. We're ready to go back um to l A.

689
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: So that that was really disappointing. I agree with you

690
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: on that. I can't say it any better. I mean,

691
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: we we talked for two days coming into this game

692
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: that the role players need to make shots and that

693
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: they need a lot from Bennett's and Dennis came out

694
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: and gave you an over that's just really that's really tough.

695
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: It's really tough to win like that. But at the

696
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's very clear that they packed

697
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: it in and they're betting on game six and you

698
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: know what, if they come out of this in seven

699
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: games and it all works out, like maybe we'll look

700
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: back and laugh about this. But them willingly giving up

701
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: game one and Game five of this series was so

702
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: bizarre and and it's just it's just poor strategy when

703
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: it comes to trying to win these playoffs series because

704
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: they like Anthony Davis healthy version of him just completely

705
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: no showed Game one of this series man in a

706
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: game that the Lakers could have won, and like the

707
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: the entire psychology and tenor of the series is different

708
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: if the Lakers are up three games to one instead

709
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: of two two coming into this game. And and obviously,

710
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: like every person on the roster deserves blame at certain

711
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: points for the way the series has gone. Um Like

712
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: I like, I was really hard on Lebron in Game

713
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: four in the second half for letting go of a

714
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: game that I thought he still could have stolen, but

715
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: man like it just like that Dennis. Dennis was the

716
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: big shiny you know, the scapegoat tonight. But everybody, everybody

717
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: deserves a ton of blame. Yeah, I agree. Appreciate you, J.

718
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: We try to get through some more people here. Appreciate

719
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: you coming up? Jack? Are you there? Yeah? Can you

720
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: hear me? I can hear you. What's going on? Man? Well?

721
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean that was tough tonight, But I don't know.

722
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: My question is is that So I've been a big

723
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: defender of this year's roster in terms of, like, like

724
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: on a talent level this year, but what's up with

725
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: this team's mentality compared to last year? Because I feel

726
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: like even though last year's team was probably less talented

727
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: on paper, they just had a completely different mentality to

728
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: them game in and game out. And it's just been

729
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: just driving me crazy this year watching this team. So

730
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: I actually disagree with you a little bit in the

731
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: sense that, um, you know, the best indicator of consistent

732
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: effort in the regular season is defensive rating, and the

733
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Lakers were number one. So the important thing we have

734
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: to remember is that all thirty NBA teams in a

735
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: seventy two or eighty two game season are going to

736
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: mentally check in and out for various stretches, but go

737
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: on in any game stretch where they kill everybody, and

738
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: then they'll have a game where they don't try, or

739
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: the two or three games where it doesn't look good.

740
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: That's kind of just part of the deal in the NBA. UM,

741
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: and as far as in the playoffs then you know,

742
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: letting go of a game with a poor effort. They

743
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: did the same thing last year. I thought all all

744
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: four of their losses, all five of their losses in

745
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: last year's playoff run, I thought were a large part

746
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: due to poor effort. Um. I like like that was

747
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: that was kind of what we noticed when we were

748
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: going through those series. So I think this is kind

749
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: of the way these teams are. I mean, we we've

750
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: seen it with all these teams, Brooklyn Blue, Game Blue,

751
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Game three, in Game four in Boston, you know, uh,

752
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: just for no reason other than that they weren't playing hard.

753
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: You know that that kind of thing. It just as

754
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: part of part of the way these NBA teams are. Um,

755
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers are one of the more consistent effort teams.

756
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: It just this is how it can bite you in

757
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: the butt. If you if you let one, if you

758
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: let one or two of them go in a seven

759
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: game or all of a sudden injury puts you with

760
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: your back against the wall, and then that's what happened here.

761
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: The only the only like disagreement with that is like

762
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: we had the best defense it was it was with

763
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: like a bunch of different lineups, right, Like I felt

764
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: like we had a bunch of different squads throughout the year.

765
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Like that's that's my name. Main difference from last year

766
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: and last year. Like, I think the farther that we

767
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: get away from it, the more kind of special that is.

768
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Like groups like that don't really Like they've talked about

769
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: it as well. They said that was one of the

770
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: most cohesive units that they've been on teams that they've

771
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: been on, and Vet Steps said that, um and also

772
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: like that team just played together more. They had a

773
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: lot more cohesion. They played games together, And I think

774
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: that matters when you get into a playoff series, do

775
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: or die kind of situations where you don't need to

776
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: just think you know where your teammate is going to be.

777
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: You need to like, no, you need to absolutely know,

778
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: like my help is going to be there on the

779
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: back side. That's just like the X and these part

780
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: of it. But also I just need to know, like, Okay,

781
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: if I get beat here, my guys gonna be at

782
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: the rim helping for me, and those kind of things

783
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: you just build through a regular season, and this team

784
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: just never got a chance to kind of do that

785
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: and still have the talent to kind of oversee that.

786
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: But just when you don't have the talent as well

787
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: a D L Lebron not himself. Um, those things add up,

788
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's where last year's team kind of

789
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: had to how to roll over over this one where

790
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: they a lot more cohesion exactly what other guy would

791
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: be minutes together, all those kind of stuff, um, that

792
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: that this team never got a chance to do. I

793
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: agree with you, and that to me is the difference. Like,

794
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: the difference is not in mentality to your question, Jack,

795
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Like the difference in my opinion, is not in mentality

796
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: from this year to last year. It's the continuity and

797
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: and that's not their fault. I like, I think health

798
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: was the entire reasoning behind it. I also think we

799
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: could probably safely assume that they don't even sign Drummond.

800
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: If if a D and Lebron stay healthy throughout the season.

801
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: That kind of feels like a reactionary signing as a

802
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: result of a perceived lack of depth and talent. And

803
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: that's not to say that Drummond is it was a

804
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: bad signing or anything like anything like that. But my

805
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: point is is they never even got to continue with

806
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: that Marcosol starting lineup that actually was really good, you know,

807
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: and build the continuity that they could fall back on

808
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yep, I agree, Jack, I appreciate you.

809
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep this, keep appreciate keep this mind moving,

810
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: Jen Jennef are you there? Yeah? How you doing, man?

811
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: How you guys doing doing? My question is this, what

812
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: do you guys feel about the trade with Skttle Lowry

813
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: that they didn't we didn't the foot Dayal and Horder

814
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: Tucker the guy can play in the playoffs? Man, he's unplayable. Jason,

815
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I'll let you. I'll let you touch this one first.

816
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: So I hate Monday I hate Monday morning quarterbacking for

817
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: the record, Like what I mean by I hate it

818
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: is like I don't think anybody gets to play that

819
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: I told you so card, Because to me, that's that's

820
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: big banking on results rather than you know, acknowledging the

821
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: fact that everything is a gamble. The Kyle Lowry trade

822
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: could have happened and the Lakers still could have lost.

823
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: That that's the important first detail that said, I think

824
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: we do all know for a fact that Kyle Lowry

825
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: would have been a more reliable game in and game

826
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: out type of player in this series than Dennis Shrewder

827
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: would have been, you know, and I think that that

828
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: was one of the parts that got gloss over. But yeah,

829
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm not in a position to sit here and say, like, oh,

830
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: I told you guys it should have Kyle Lowry, because

831
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's being intellectually dishonest and being

832
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: captain hindsight, and I'm not going to do that. Yeah,

833
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: I just think like it was still I would still

834
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: probably not do the deal like Lowry with a hobbled

835
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: a d and a hobbled Lebron, I'm not sure how

836
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: far you're going anyway, right just even looking at I

837
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: know you don't like to do the morning quarterback or

838
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: however that's called, but just looking even at adding Lowry

839
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: to this team, you probably get maybe one more win,

840
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: two more wins, But you know, you're not going anywhere

841
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: with eighties, not himself, lebrons on himself anyway. So you

842
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: still get to keep KCP. Still it keep Dennis shrewder

843
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: maybe going forward to keep th HT and whatever picks

844
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: the Raptors were asking for. So the tough thing to

845
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: kind of go back and look at um. So, yeah,

846
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: I still probably wouldn't do the deal with Lowry help maybe,

847
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: but well, we'll never know, and I'm I'm comfortable with

848
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: their decision in the off season. The one tricky thing

849
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: with that is that'll be interesting to see. And again,

850
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to dive more into the off season

851
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: because I know, I know Roj wants to stay in

852
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: the moment. But if they end up letting Dennis walk

853
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: because they don't think he's worth the money, and uh,

854
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: and then you don't have the option of signing Lowry

855
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: to that you know, two year, fifty million dollar extension

856
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: that he wanted. That's the one part that kind of

857
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: stucks is if you had. One of the factors of

858
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: that trade is everyone was like, oh, well we'll keep Dennis,

859
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. And one thing, one thing, last thing

860
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: I'll say about Dennis that I think is important is

861
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: he was playing really well before the damn COVID suspension

862
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: and like he had that game against Utah where he

863
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: just picked them apart and and then he his his

864
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: his dumbass went and did something stupid it and got

865
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: suspended for two weeks and completely disrupted any of that.

866
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: And I think that that was something that to keep

867
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: in mind as far as in defense of Dennis. Yeah,

868
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: that's a sad part about this. He's had a good season,

869
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: like we were even talking about like an all defense

870
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: type of season, you know, and he was playing well,

871
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: and then he went out for COVID once and then

872
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: went out again right before the season and that was

873
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: just brutal killed his rhythm. He was not he even

874
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: talked about it. His conditioning was killed. And he's had

875
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: two good games in this series as well. That will

876
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: all be forgotten if he plays bad again in Game six.

877
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: And that's the sad part about this is like fans

878
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: are really going to jump on him. It's really easy

879
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: to kind of scapegoat him as well. He's easy one

880
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: with Drum and his his misses are also loud, right,

881
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Like when he has bad games are allowed very similar

882
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: to Drum, and he'll go like over eight over one

883
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: for twelve or something like that. And that's that's kind

884
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: of sad part about this is he's had a good season,

885
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: but you get judged on the playoffs and that's kind

886
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: of how it goes. Jenne. I appreciate. I appreciate you. Man.

887
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get that line move and appreciate you.

888
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: Let's see, Renee, are you there? How you don't follow us?

889
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: How's it going? Man? A couple of things I wanted

890
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: to touch on really quick with you guys, Like one, Um,

891
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: you touched on it earlier. I'm still optimistic to an extent.

892
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: I do think that we can win the series if

893
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: a D is healthy. But that's banking on that, um.

894
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: But the question I have for you guys is like,

895
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: looking ahead to the off season, what are you looking

896
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: for us to do with the rosters? Putting rods on

897
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: the spot? I like, man, that's that? That just that

898
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: hinges so much kind of I guess not really. I

899
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: mean it kind of hinges on what happens in Game six,

900
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: But um, I really don't know, man, I can't even

901
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: think that far. Like that's such a like I don't

902
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: know where you go here, Like I guess you gotta

903
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: re sign Dennis and kind of hope this team comes

904
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: back healthy. Still Lebron in a d helped the resign

905
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: out with Caruso. That would be my priority number one. UM.

906
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: Also bring back Marcusol and then everyone else has kind

907
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: of signed. Kuzma's there, and then you kind of fill

908
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: in veterans um from there. Marcusoft is actually signed next year,

909
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about that, UM, but

910
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: you just bring other vets that want to win, and

911
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: I think they'll do that. I'm not worried about the

912
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: off season. So that's that's kind of where I would

913
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: That's where I'll go with it. But I don't even

914
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. Man. We're still alive. We're

915
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: still alive. We're not going there. Yeah. The one thing

916
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: that I'll say is something that I tweeted earlier. You know,

917
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 1: given the circumstances, all of the outlier circumstances. I don't

918
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: even know how you. I don't even know how you

919
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: make any calls, Like how do you if as rob Oblinka,

920
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: how do you sit there and think like, oh, this

921
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: is what we needed or that's what we need, or

922
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: this guy isn't a good fit or that guy is

923
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: not a good fit when they've never played like they've

924
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: barely played together. So I don't know how. I don't

925
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: know how you make those calls like it's uh, you know,

926
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things. I tweeted this, you know,

927
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: weeks ago, um before, back in the in the regular season,

928
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: when we were all talking about how the Clippers thing

929
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: wasn't working, and it's like, why would you blow it

930
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: up if you're the Clippers after this season when everything

931
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: everything was so unusual, and everything was was was chaotic

932
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: and everything was not like a normal season. And I

933
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: I like, even if the Clippers would have lost to

934
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: the Mavericks, would have been like, hey, like, I don't

935
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: think we should jump the gun here when when this

936
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: is not a normal season. And so that that's my thing.

937
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you can even make calls about the

938
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: off season based on this series. I think I think

939
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: it did like for all, you know, the same group

940
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: of guys healthy, you know, runs off seventy two wins

941
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: and wins the title and you don't know, you just

942
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I agree, Renee. We appreciate you man,

943
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Uh are you there. Yeah, man, I'm here. Man good,

944
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: how are you doing that? Doing as well as we can? Man?

945
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: Which it was. It was a rough one, And my man,

946
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: I guess my question is maybe based off kind of

947
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: like your last jury. You might not want to get

948
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: too much into this, but um, I think it's pretty

949
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: evident at this point that Lebron's window is kind of closing,

950
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: um in terms of father time catching up to him

951
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: and all those type of things. And then I guess

952
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of wondering, like what your comfort level

953
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: is with with Anthony Davis kind of being the leader

954
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: of the Helm for the next five years under his

955
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: new contract, you know, like once once that time does

956
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: come from Lebron in terms of his injury issues, and

957
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: then you know the occasional no show no shows in

958
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: playoff games. So but really quickly, I tweeted this earlier

959
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: and I and I stand by it. Like seven months ago,

960
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Lebron was living in the paint as the Finals MVP

961
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: seven months ago, and he had a contact injury, one

962
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: of the few that he's had in his career that

963
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: that knocked him out for basically the last thirtysomething games

964
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: of the season. So as far as far as I'm concerned,

965
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: his his end is eventually going to come. But I

966
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily fair to use this is like

967
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: the doomsday scenario, because I don't like healthy stars which

968
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: struggle in the same circumstances, you know, like I don't.

969
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that c. J. McCollum

970
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: is having a tough series with Denver when he missed

971
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: most of the season with with the I think it

972
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: was plan or faciare or whatever it was that his

973
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: his injury was so So the point is is, like

974
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's really hard for any his basketball

975
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: so rhythm oriented. Like I'm gonna use a stupid personal example,

976
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: but like I'm going to a Ruba on Thursday, and

977
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gone for eight days. There's a zero

978
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: percent chance that I just come back and play like

979
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: my normal self. When I go play like it's gonna

980
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: take me weeks to get back into shape after being

981
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 1: basically a beach bump for eight days. Then I think

982
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the problem here is Lebron

983
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: was effectively off of his foot for probably five six

984
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: weeks there and then, and then did very minimal stuff

985
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: to kind of inch his way back on the court.

986
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: And then he's like like he's in like training camp

987
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: mode right now, while the dudes that he's playing against

988
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: are coming off of the best season of their careers

989
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: and playing at the top of their games. Like that's

990
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: a difference here. And Jason, you said seven months ago,

991
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: not three months ago, he was having an m v

992
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: P level season, like exactly. It was the leader from

993
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: the m v P before you know, he went down

994
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: and then your kids kind of took that over. But

995
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: and he was getting to the rim game, to the basket,

996
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: showing no real ill effects, UM, jumping as high as

997
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: I've kind of seen him getting to the basket, taking contact, um,

998
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: m VP level kind of numbers MVP level impact even

999
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: without a d in there, like he was he was himself. Man.

1000
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I think

1001
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: it's definitely it's super hard to obviously discount Lebron. I mean,

1002
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: what he's already done in his career is is incredible,

1003
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I think at this point, you know,

1004
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: like y'all said, seven months ago, and like you just said,

1005
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: three months ago, he was you know, m VP talk, right,

1006
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: and I Oh sorry, I was just gonna sell what

1007
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: what do you think? Like, I guess more of my

1008
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: question is is like, what y'all's level of concern more

1009
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: for more for Anthony Davis, like over the next five years.

1010
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: So I still think he needs a high level shock

1011
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: creator to kind of be next to him, right, I

1012
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: think that's pretty clear. Um, I don't think a guy

1013
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: like Dennis Shrewder is enough. And look, the Lakers are.

1014
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: The Lakers are gonna attract high level shock creators. That's

1015
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: just how the kind of world works, right, That's how

1016
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: they're going to go after pre agents that are gonna

1017
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: fit with him. And uh, I just don't think Lebron

1018
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: is as close to done yet as that kind of

1019
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: UM playmaker. And when those two are playing together, Man,

1020
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: the Lakers are a high level team. They win at

1021
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: a high level UM and they still do. But yeah,

1022
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: that's where my concern would be with a d I

1023
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: can't really talk on the injury kind of stuff. I mean,

1024
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: this was kind of a weird year for him, short offseason.

1025
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: He came in out of shape, was never really himself,

1026
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: to be honest. If you look at eighties games, even

1027
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: early on, Um, even when they were twenty one and six.

1028
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: He was loafing through games. He was not really trying

1029
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: on a lot of nights. UM, So that's I hope

1030
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: next year he comes in kind of with a with

1031
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: a killer attitude. I picked him for Defensive Player of

1032
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: the Year this year. I was way off. He approached

1033
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: the season way differently than I thought he would. I

1034
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: thought he would approach it the way Lebron would. I

1035
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: thought Lebron would approach it the way he would, and

1036
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: it just didn't happen. But that's where I see with

1037
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: a D that's my main concern here. He's still not

1038
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: a high enough level shock creator where he can be

1039
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: the number one kind of scoring option on the title

1040
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: level team. I guess do you see that as well, Jason, Yeah,

1041
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: I do. But I also think that the partnership works

1042
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: in the sense that, um, Lebron's playmaking will continue to

1043
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: be a thing as he gets older. You know, like

1044
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: think of it like this, like, uh, this version of

1045
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: Bron and this series. You know, a guy who's averaging

1046
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: you know whatever it is, twenty one points a game

1047
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: on you know, right around you know, the high forties

1048
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: from the field, and you know, capable of knocking down

1049
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: threes and is still passing the ball really well. Like

1050
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: that version of Lebron is going to be old Lebron.

1051
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: Like the way the way Lebron is right now is

1052
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: the way I see him in a couple of years.

1053
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: I just happened to think he still has some peak

1054
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: in him that has been taken away by the injury.

1055
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: But the point is is when a D was being

1056
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: physically dominant, dominant in Games two and three, they won

1057
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: comfortably against this really good Son's team. So I'm still

1058
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: a believer that this pairing works even as Lebron ages. However,

1059
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: with a D there are a couple of things to

1060
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: keep in mind. One, the injury stuff is real, Like

1061
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: he has to figure out how to stay healthy. I

1062
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. I don't know if it's

1063
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: his diet. I don't know if it's his workout regimen.

1064
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his pliability. I don't know.

1065
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is that he's got to do.

1066
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: But he's got to figure it out. Because here's the

1067
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: reality of the situation. Everyone goes out quick turn around,

1068
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: a quick turn around, blah blah, and I agree, don't

1069
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: get me wrong. It was part of it, but like

1070
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: the Lakers still had seventy two days, that should have

1071
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: been enough for him to at least like, even if

1072
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: he was rusty, he should have come in at least healthy.

1073
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: You know your point. You know, Davis has never really

1074
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: been a consistent person that's been healthy throughout his whole career.

1075
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, even when he was in New Orleans, he

1076
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: he had tons of tons of injury issues, you know.

1077
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: And when he's healthy, he's not healthy. That's the thing,

1078
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: you know. And and and then my last criticism with

1079
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 1: him in terms of like a franchise cornerstone is his

1080
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: tendency to completely no show about one out of every

1081
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: five playoff games is bizarre. And and and that's one

1082
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: thing that I that I don't know if it I

1083
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: don't know if it stems from playing with Lebron and somehow,

1084
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, the Lebron's hello CenTra is helio centrism being

1085
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: a problem or I don't know, I don't I honestly

1086
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but that that would be

1087
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: my one other thing. But both of those things, the

1088
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: injury stuff, and uh and the you know what will

1089
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: rather what Roger was saying the lack of playmaking and

1090
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: his tendency to no show playoff games. Having Lebron with

1091
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: him is almost perfect because Lebron makes up for that

1092
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: stuff with the playmaking, and because Lebron almost always seems

1093
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: to sense when a D s not mentally there and

1094
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: he tries to make up for it. We saw a

1095
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: lot of that last year in the postseason. If you remember,

1096
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: a D would just be completely loafing around in the

1097
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: first half and Lebron half thirty before halftime. You know,

1098
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that the pairing works.

1099
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: But the injury stuff he's got to figure out, because

1100
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: this is going to be a season that got derailed

1101
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: by an a D injury here. That's basically what's happening here.

1102
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: And and this is one out of two now, you

1103
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Have to be fair. I mean,

1104
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: he played Tanner, We appreciate you. We kind of bring

1105
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: some of these PEPs here. I Axander, can hear us?

1106
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say on eighties, like he played

1107
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: seventy games consistently. I think the previous three before last year.

1108
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: Last year he also played a thing like seventy games

1109
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: or something. He just goes down a lot he scares

1110
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: us a lot. He has a lot of like, you know,

1111
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 1: go to the locker room, get a Chad come back.

1112
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: That's the kind of scary thing with him. And I

1113
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: think it's just a mentality thing. He's very It's very

1114
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: easy for him to just give the ball to like

1115
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: Tennis shrewder and be like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to

1116
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: space here, and like a quarter will go by and

1117
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: he took like two shots and then he'll try to

1118
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: get a rid up. So that's my only thing with

1119
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: with a D. But Alexander, can you hear us? Bro? Yeah,

1120
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: I can hear you, guys. I can hear you guys.

1121
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: Thinks let me talk to you guys. Um And something

1122
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: I've uh an issue I've had all season is the

1123
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: Lakers shooting right. I mean, I think we lead the

1124
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: league and missed wide open threes, you know where the

1125
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: defender is six ft or fur other away. How do

1126
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: we fix this because you know we're doing We have

1127
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: so many people on our roster. You think of k CP,

1128
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: you think of West Matthew's been McLamore, where their only

1129
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: job is to hit hit wide open threes. It's just

1130
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: for me, it's just unacceptable as a fan to watch

1131
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: us shoot sub thirt in playoff game after playoff game.

1132
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't win a championship that way. I

1133
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: just don't how to fix it. I'm not sure that

1134
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: the venting thing, obviously, I don't think you guys have

1135
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: the answers to that. But it's just frustrating to watch

1136
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 1: this brick completely wide open threes that other playoff teams

1137
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: are hitting with consistency. I think that's go ahead, Okay,

1138
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that that's tough. Yeah, there is

1139
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: no real ANSWPA. They're they're pros. They're supposed to get

1140
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: their open shots. They work on them. But like tonight,

1141
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: just gonna use tonight as the example, Like they shot

1142
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: it scared, and you really don't have a chance if

1143
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: you shoot it scared. Like if you can at least

1144
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: shot it confidently, you can put them up, you shoot

1145
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: them open. I can kind of live with the misses

1146
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: the passing of shots, which is kind of troubling um

1147
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: going forward here. But yeah, it's tough, man. They won

1148
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: last year with it, though, right they struggled shooting all

1149
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: the year and h we all we all said they'll

1150
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: hit him when it counts um but even like the

1151
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: home games. I mean not to cut you off, but

1152
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: like you mentioned earlier about hey, role players played better

1153
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: at home, guys did right. Our guys are still shooting

1154
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: from three at home. There's no difference home the road.

1155
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand it. Like it's just so

1156
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: many compl And we've been a bad shooting team this year,

1157
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: like you mentioned last year. I don't think we've been

1158
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: in the top half of three point shooting percentage in

1159
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: the last four or five years. I just don't get it,

1160
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Like shooters like Danny Green come here to die, like

1161
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: he was decent in Toronto, bad here good in Philly.

1162
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: Like I just don't understand. It's like a curse. I think, Uh,

1163
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: like a couple of things you have to understand that

1164
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: we as a fan base kind of have to understand.

1165
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: You know. First of all, this was by design. The

1166
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Lakers prioritized players with defensive talent over players that could shoot. Uh.

1167
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: The Lakers are the kind of team that was like,

1168
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna look for the Wesley Matthews Alex Crusoe types,

1169
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: not the Gary Trent Junior types, you know what I mean,

1170
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: And that there is a scenario here where the Lakers

1171
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: of all kinds of shooting and Lebron's having you know,

1172
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: a ridiculous offensive season on crazy high efficiency, and Anthony

1173
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: Davis is dunking on everybody but their average to blow

1174
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: average defense because none of their guards can keep anybody

1175
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: out of the paint. And you know that, I think

1176
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: that's the thought process there. That said, the percentages have

1177
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: been even lower than they should be. Like what happened

1178
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: last year was the Lakers were a slightly below average

1179
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: three point shooting team, if I remember correctly, they shot

1180
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 1: about thirty five from three in the playoffs last year,

1181
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: which was okay, not good, certainly a little bit below average,

1182
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: but enough so that they're high end defense was enough

1183
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: to carry them, you know what I mean. And this season,

1184
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: what the problem has been is that the lack of

1185
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: shooting has actually been a problem for the first time

1186
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: here in this postseason. Now the important detail, and as

1187
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: Roger and I keep pointing out, the Lakers were up

1188
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: two games to one in this series and showboating in

1189
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: the first half of Game four at home, you know,

1190
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: having fun because while a d was healthy, because even

1191
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: though they could not make a damn three to save

1192
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: their life. That's so everything. At the end of the day,

1193
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: it might get simplified down to shooting, it might get

1194
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: simplified down to X role player had a bad, bad day.

1195
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: What what it really is is this team was built

1196
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: around Lebron and A D physically pulverizing you, and half

1197
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: of that unit has gone in the other half, Like,

1198
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: what was the whole plan going into this series? We

1199
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: just need to beat the Sun's because A D is

1200
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: the guy that they can't guard. We just need to

1201
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: give Lebron to trying to get his legs back, and

1202
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: we said he's got like five weeks before that Clippers series,

1203
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: so that's five weeks for him to get back in shape.

1204
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: And the whole thing got thrown off because the guy

1205
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: that was supposed to carry us through that point, A

1206
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: D got hurt and now the guy that's not ready

1207
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: yet has all the responsibility. So like the role players,

1208
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: making shots is certainly a part of it, but it's

1209
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of by design. And the Lakers were winning

1210
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: this series without making threes at one point. Yep, I

1211
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: agree with that, and like you have to win the

1212
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: paint battle, you have to win the free thow bout

1213
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: you have to been the reboundy like if you're not,

1214
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: if you're getting outscored from three, and they're not in

1215
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: the series. Phoenix isn't shooting that great from three either,

1216
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's just by design as well. The

1217
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: Lakers want to run him off the three make book

1218
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: and Chris Paulity contested tough shots, don't put them on

1219
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: the line and live with kind of eight and scoring

1220
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: at the rim. And they've done that to an extent

1221
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: before tonight's you know, total meltdown, and then that second

1222
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: half in Game four. They've kind of done that. They've

1223
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: been in every other, every other game, UM and the

1224
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: three point shooting just has not give him any margin

1225
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: of air to work with. That's a sad part, and

1226
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: you're right to be frustrated with it. UM Pro should

1227
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: hit their open shots. But this is a defensive minded team.

1228
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: They were built around a defense, and Lebron and a

1229
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: t like Jason said, kind of just mean destroyer of worlds.

1230
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: And one of them is not there and one of

1231
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: them doesn't look like himself yet. So that's that's the

1232
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: trouble part with it, man. And then we hope those

1233
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: shots go down. KCP didn't play last game. He didn't

1234
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: look like himself tonight either. He's our main shooter, right,

1235
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: He's not an elite shooter, but you know he's a

1236
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: guy when he's open. Was supposed to be a knockdown

1237
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: three point shooter. He was shooting what from three for

1238
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: like the first month and a half of this season,

1239
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: if you remember, Caruso was shooting from three to start

1240
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: this season. Like we're hitting like extremely big time open shots.

1241
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: And from there they've really cooled off. And the playoffs,

1242
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: you're supposed to hit your open looks to free up

1243
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: the stars. That's the whole point of it, as the

1244
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: whole point of spacing, as the whole point to get

1245
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: Lebron going. Once Lebron gets attacked in the rim, he

1246
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: gets people in foul trouble. It's just just like dynamism

1247
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: that kind of isn't there because has of the open

1248
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: shots not going. People want Lebron and drive. There's nowhere

1249
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: to go. Eighton is sitting at the paint. Jake crowd

1250
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: is sitting and help. They're helping one pass away. They

1251
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: do not care and I should just can't burn them, um,

1252
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,959
Speaker 1: And that's that's what's happening. But thank thank you guys

1253
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate it. Thank you Alexander, We really

1254
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. Man. Surprised no one has asked

1255
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: about Treads yet. It's kind of a funny. There's a

1256
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of time I talk about him. I think, you know,

1257
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: I could tell that this was kind of the case

1258
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: in game for I think what tries is the kind

1259
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: of guy that doesn't take too kindly to getting thrown

1260
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: in and garbage time the way like I kind of

1261
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: felt like the not that it was garbage time in

1262
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,959
Speaker 1: game four, but I I didn't think Treads was great

1263
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: in his minutes in game four, and that's our part

1264
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: of the reason for that is like he's a little

1265
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: pouty over the fact that he's out of the rotation,

1266
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: but the reality of the situation is his tread is

1267
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: and turning this thing around, h it's gonna be and

1268
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: role players making threes, you know, no, for sure, Yeah,

1269
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think he would have made a huge difference.

1270
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: Maybe his energy. Jay, are you there? Can you hear us? Yeah?

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: What's close? What's going on there? Just just answer your question.

1272
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: Nobody's asking about Trus because everybody's depressed about shoulder. Um,

1273
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: you're right, Like I'm gonna say this, Let'm tell me

1274
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: how you guys feel about this, right, I think going

1275
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: back to the line up conversations that we were having earlier,

1276
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: I think personally it's too late. I think vocal got

1277
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: too cute, um and continuing to afford I'm not saying

1278
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: that Drummond is the problem, but clear are you there?

1279
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: Can't hear Jay? We lost you for a second. Man,

1280
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: My bad, my bad, folks, You're good. I don't know,

1281
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know where I left off, but what I

1282
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: was saying is is that we got to give this

1283
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: Sun's credit. Right. Um, they're frustrating everybody on the court. There.

1284
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: They're baiting Lebron in the wing. Uh, they're bating him

1285
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: in the corner on passes when when they're just throwing

1286
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: a fake double like Lebron is clearly frustrated. And part

1287
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: of that is the spacing like I don't want I

1288
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: don't want to beat a dead horse. But going back

1289
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: to the line of like I said this, when when

1290
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: Schroeder went into the protocol continuing to put him in

1291
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: the starting lineup, I know this is kind of like

1292
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: the nuclear option, I don't know if you guys know

1293
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: the stats since he's come back from from the protocols,

1294
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: but he's shooting in seven games like that's tempero sent

1295
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: lower than what he shot all season. Right, he had

1296
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: a great season before that. I agree. Um, The problem

1297
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: is is the Sun's defense is really good. Right, Drummond

1298
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: is a negative spacer in all facets. Schroeder does not

1299
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: shoot the ball, right, and then you have every other

1300
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: wing on the on the Lakers just not taking a shot.

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01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: You guys were having a conversation earlier about what was

1302
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: different from last year's team and this year's team, and

1303
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: I agree that it's it's there's a lot of moving parts.

1304
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: You can't um, you can't compare them. But my simple

1305
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: answer is Lebron was making every single decision when it

1306
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: came down to current time. You had Lebron on the

1307
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: ball and he was getting put in high picking rolls

1308
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: and he was making every decision. We had sixteen turnovers

1309
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: tonight and they scored twenty three points off those turns. Yeah.

1310
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: So ultimately my question is is do you think that

1311
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: there's any value at all whatsoever to consider bringing Shoulder

1312
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: off the bench to one match campaign, who's who's been

1313
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: kicking everybody's ass um but to just to put the

1314
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: ball in Lebron's hand and just if we're gonna take

1315
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: Like I know we're saying that role players need to

1316
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: hit shots, but when you go look at the film, men,

1317
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: those shots aren't as open as as I think we

1318
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: we think they're when when um, when we were wanting alive, no, no,

1319
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: for sure, and I think kind of Vogel agreed with you.

1320
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: He pulled true to really early tonight. If you remember, Um,

1321
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: I think Shrewder got pulled with like after like five minutes. Um.

1322
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: He put in Gasol and Crusoe for drumming and Shooter

1323
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: because he was just not playing well and and like

1324
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positive to him, like I thought

1325
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: his season was okay, but uh, and it gives Lebron

1326
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: another ball handler to where they can't just ball pressure

1327
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: him all night, which I think they would do. If

1328
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: you take Shooter off the floor, Lebron is the only

1329
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: guy dribbling, and again with drumming on the floor as well,

1330
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: there's just no space. So if you run, they're running ball.

1331
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: Street action was Lebron and drumming and he's trying to

1332
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, put the guy on his back, put the

1333
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: guy in jail, and attacked the rim. And there's no

1334
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: space there. Shooter. You know, the theory of Shooter was

1335
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: supposed to, you know, give a guy to give to

1336
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: be a pick and roll partner with a d a

1337
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: guy who's a lethal score that you have to kind

1338
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: of um defending the paint as well, a guy that

1339
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: puts pressure on the rim. And he's just none of

1340
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: those things right now. And I just don't know if

1341
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: the COVID thing impacted. He had two really good games.

1342
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: I talked about it earlier Game two. In Game three,

1343
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: we don't win without him, we just don't um. But

1344
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: the COVID thing, I mean, it sucked. He went into

1345
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: protocol right before the season ended. He just did not

1346
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: have enough time with you know, drumming lebron a d

1347
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: this season. Maybe that's what it is. But you know,

1348
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: maybe they do put in the bench. I was keeping

1349
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: from more Crusoe minutes. He's one of the guys that

1350
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: didn't look scared tonight to shoot, which which says something.

1351
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: Which is sad that it says something, but it does.

1352
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: He's one of the guys that kind of pulled, so there,

1353
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: maybe I just think it might be too late for that.

1354
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: Like you said, to bring him off the bench, I

1355
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: don't know how much that helps killing his confidence in

1356
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: the process. Right, So you've been going off the bench. Now,

1357
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: maybe you put Crusoe in, you get a little bit

1358
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: better from the starters, but then you get you get

1359
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: maybe nothing from him. Maybe he just goes into a

1360
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: mental blockade. So I don't know where to go with that.

1361
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: That's a thin line. What do you think, Jason, That's

1362
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say too. Is just at this

1363
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: point in the season back against the wall making that change?

1364
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: Is it just the risk to reward factor is low?

1365
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you can you could effectively bench him by

1366
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: having him start but then pulling him quickly and then

1367
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: bringing him in when Lebron goes to the bench and

1368
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: then attempt to try to salvage whatever that is. But

1369
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. It'll be really interesting to see what

1370
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: happened in game six. It'll be interesting to see if

1371
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: the rotation expands as he just starts throwing stuff at

1372
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: the wall, or if he shrinks it down to like

1373
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: seven guys or eight guys and goes down with the

1374
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: ship so to speak. Um, you know, there's a bunch

1375
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: of different options there. Like I like I said earlier,

1376
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them go small a little bit um,

1377
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: but just just because Aton has a tendency when he

1378
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: feels like he's in a crowd, he'll give the ball up.

1379
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: So if you rotate fast enough, I think you can.

1380
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: I think you can still have some success defensively. But

1381
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean at this point, like if if,

1382
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: if guys don't start playing to their potential, meaning role

1383
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: players don't start hitting at least league average when when

1384
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: they're wide open, Dennis Shrewter doesn't like Dennis Shooter has

1385
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: to be better than Campaign. Like, if Campaign is going

1386
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: to be better than Dennis Shooter, you're losing the series.

1387
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: That's just the reality of the situation. Like, and if

1388
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: you don't like you, they're they're capable of playing much

1389
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: better defense than they did tonight too, And I don't

1390
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: know they're there. We've kind of touched on it all

1391
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: already tonight. But I think at this point, the only

1392
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: real starting lineup move to to make would be to

1393
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: start Kassol in hopes of opening up some driving lanes

1394
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the game. Yeah, I agree with that.

1395
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 1: That's the that's the change I wanted to see. I

1396
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: want to seek gasol kind of starting give Lebron's face early.

1397
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: It just feel like we talked about it earlier. But

1398
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: you know, once they brought the solid and the game

1399
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: was kind of over, sadly, like Devin Booker had it going,

1400
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: the crowd was going crazy. They were already down I

1401
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: think ten eleven points um, And by that time, Phoenix

1402
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: buid all their confidence. They weren't missing anything, they were

1403
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: getting all the calls rightfully. They were the more physical team. Um.

1404
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: They were getting everything going their way. Every offensive rebound

1405
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: went their way, every loose ball. And I think it

1406
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: was too late. You need to get Lebron going, get

1407
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: is scoring going, maybe get the team going that way. Um,

1408
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I don't know. Benja Shreoterman that

1409
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: that's a tough decision that has a lot of implications,

1410
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: I think, just not just helping the starters, but it

1411
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: might hurt him and they need him in this series.

1412
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: Even if a d plays, they need his offense. Man,

1413
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: he can't score like this. They need twenty from him,

1414
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: like in a in an efficient way as well. And

1415
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: he also used to be playmaking. He can't be turning

1416
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: the ball over tonight. He just drove but just no,

1417
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: like no, I don't know how to explain it, like

1418
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: just there was no decision making. He just drove and

1419
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: decided I'm gonna shoot here, and mcal Bridges sent him

1420
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: to the third row. I think three times, um, and

1421
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: he got punked by campaign. Campaign is like out playing

1422
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: Chris Paul in some parts, like that's a tough guy

1423
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: to I'll play right now. But that's that's what I

1424
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: see with Shooter. Man. I don't know where else to

1425
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: go that. Yeah, I appreciate you, man. We're gonna get

1426
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: let's get one more person that we're gonna kind of

1427
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: call it. I think we've been going here for over

1428
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: an hour, maybe an hour and a half. Let's see Jay.

1429
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:47,440
Speaker 1: Appreciate you man, Thanks man, good luck songs, see Lakers

1430
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: all the I think he says Lakers all the way. Yeah,

1431
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: how are you doing man? Good are you? How are

1432
01:10:54,600 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: you doing doing well? Man? So I was like I

1433
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: think you said earlier in the in the space, that's

1434
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: like you were talking about like a soul minutes how Roman,

1435
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: Because like you said, like we were down double figures.

1436
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: I just wanted to point out that, like the game

1437
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: was ton ton when was in and then like, Okay,

1438
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: it really felt like because I was noticing like in

1439
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: the game, like the Sun's really started like they were

1440
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: started attacking his slow feet like Chris Paul you had

1441
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: book or they were all sure like they really started talking.

1442
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: And then like that's when like I saw like the

1443
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: Sun's offense got going. Yeah for sure. You know, I

1444
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: just felt like the momentum maybe I guess I remembered it.

1445
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: It felt like we were down more at that time,

1446
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: but I feel like their momentum was kind of already building.

1447
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: I think we started up like seven nothings or something

1448
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,839
Speaker 1: like that. I think they went on like a fourteen

1449
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: oh run um that coincided with the dissoloments as well.

1450
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just felt like the game was kind

1451
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: of ended. Lebron was already kind of tired. He saw

1452
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: his teammates are already scared to shoot. That's why men

1453
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of BCP kind of like, yeah, they were, they

1454
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: were not taking the open shots. Absolutely, Yeah that I

1455
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: thought that like early in the game, the Lakers defended

1456
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: pretty well in the first six minute stretch and then

1457
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: you could just see kind of like as the role

1458
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: players started missing shots and his Lebron's like kinda like,

1459
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: let's see if I got my jumper going tonight type

1460
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: of shots. As they weren't going in, I think the

1461
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: belief left, and when the belief left, the defense slipped,

1462
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: and then when the defense slipped, it was over. Yeah,

1463
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: I agree with them, and it's hopefully in game six

1464
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: they started off a little bit better. Um, it's not

1465
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: as lopside and after after the first quarter, Yeah, I

1466
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: think this game really fell off defensively. Hopefully everyone plays

1467
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: harder and then the role players played better so we

1468
01:12:51,320 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: can get game six. Absolutely, man, I agree, appreciate it. Alright, alright, everybody,

1469
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: Roger and I are gonna get some sleep. I'm gonna

1470
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: quickly convert the recording of this to a podcast for

1471
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: you guys to check out if you didn't hear the

1472
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: thing in its entirety. Roj and I were both very

1473
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: angry in the first half, or whatever our version of

1474
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: angry is. We did our our own little event events

1475
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: as at the beginning of this UM, so you guys

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Speaker 1: will be able to to go back and listen to

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Speaker 1: it and um uh. The Thursday pod is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a little tricky for me because I'm flying out of

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Speaker 1: Phoenix and I may or may not be in a car,

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Speaker 1: so depending on how good the cell services, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to hop on with ROJ to do a postgame show,

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Speaker 1: but worst case scenario, I'm sure we'll be able to

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Speaker 1: figure something out. Thank you guys all so much, as

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Speaker 1: always UH for your support and UH and hopefully we

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Speaker 1: have more than one more game to cover this season.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone, Thank you so much for hanging out