1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's camera. This budget thing is going 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: to do nothing space forts. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Politics Colliding Floomberg Sound On, The Insiders, the Influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: than it looked in. You really have a divide within 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Team Trump. The President has to do exactly what people 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: send him here to do, which is to get it done. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven F M H D two. 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden allies are considering a superpack to boost his 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: lagging campaign. Meanwhile, Tim Ryan drops out of the Democratic 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: presidential debate and Amy Klobuchar UH qualifies for the next 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: presidential debate, and key senators circulating a legislation banning Iran 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: nuclear avers. All of that plus an exclusive Folks and 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: exclusive Bloomberg Radio sound On interview with the Interior Secretary. 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: We talked all about fracking. Fracking with Secretary David Bernhardt, 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the U S Secretary of Interior and the Nats. Hey, 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: Nats too, No baby doing a good another win? All right, 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: but first let's gonna check on the headlines from my 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: good friend and fellow Nats fan, Nancy lions Net's that's right, Kevin. 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a top ally of President Trump, 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: has introduced a resolution condemning the Democratic controlled House for 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: pursuing what he calls a closed door, illegitimate impeachment inquiry. 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: They've created a process in the Intel Community Committee. Thus 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: behind closed doors doesn't provide access uh to the president's accuser, 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: shuts Republicans out for all practical purposes, and is a 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: unworthy substitute for the way you need to do it. 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Forty eight Republicans sit on those committees that are conducting 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: the inquiry. The Washington Post, for its Democrats are looking 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: to take that probe public as soon as mid November. Well. 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Today there was a pause in depositions as lawmakers honored 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: Democratic Congressman Elijah Cummings, who died last week. He is 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: the first African American lawmaker to lie in state in 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: the Capital. Elijah was truly a master of the House. 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: He respected its history and in it he helped shape 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: America's future. How speaker Nancy Pelosi grew up in Baltimore, 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: in the district represented by Cummings. Awake and Funeral or 40 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: plan for tomorrow in Baltimore with eulogies from former Presidents 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Metro's planned to privatize some 42 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: bus routes in Northern Virginia led to a strike today 43 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: by bus drivers, disrupting thousands of commuters. Metro contracted out 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: nearly twenty bus routes to the French firm trans Dev, 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: the first such move at the region's transit system in 46 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: forty years, and after nearly a year of negotiations, trans 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: and stav as yet to agree to a contract with 48 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: the unionized bus drivers. You get poor wages, terrible safety culture, 49 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: it's everything. They don't have any healthcare. The union's Thomas 50 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: Carroll says the strike will continue until a labor agreement 51 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: is reached. Transdev tells Bloomberg today strike was premature and 52 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: needlessly inconveniences the passengers. Martin de Carol Bloomberg one oh 53 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: five point seven h D two. Metra says it's expecting 54 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: big crowds this weekend for the forty four annual Marine 55 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Corps Marathon, so extra trains will be running on the 56 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: Blue and Yellow lines this Sunday from six am to 57 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: a nine am. The Yellow Line will have additional trains 58 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: between Huntington and Mount Vernon Square. The Blue Line will 59 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: have them between Franconia Springfield and Stadium Armory. Extra trains 60 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: will also be on those routes from eleven fifteen am 61 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: to four fifteen pm. Washington is getting ready for its 62 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: first World Series game in the district in eighty six years, 63 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: and the Washington Poster is reporting on who is likely 64 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: to throw out the first pitch in tomorrow's game. The 65 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: paper says, according to multiple people with knowledge of the plan, 66 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: Chat Cordero will throw it to Brian Schneider, the twosome 67 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: that closed out games for the Nationals team when it 68 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: returned to Washington in two thousand and five. Cordero was 69 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: an All Star pitcher. Schneider was his catcher for most 70 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: of that first season. What's time now for the Beltway 71 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: Business report? Here is Bloomberg's Larry Kovsky Nancy Technology shares 72 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: had a good day of stocks finished NIX that Jones 73 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: industrial average fell twenty eight. The SMP five hundred Game five. 74 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: Then as that composite climbed sixty six, Intel is higher. 75 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: In late trading, it gave an upbeat fourth quarter forecast 76 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: that is seen as a sign that demand for the 77 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: semiconductors that power cloud computing data centers is improving despite 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: the US China trade dispute. 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Area 88 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: stock Index game two tenths of one percent Europe to date. 89 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: On business from the Beltway to Baltimore. I'm Larry Kowsky. 90 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg one oh five point seven FM HD two, 91 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Larry. Global News twenty four hours a day on 92 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: air and at TikTok on Twitter, powered by more than 93 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: twenty seven journalist and analyst and more than a twenty 94 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: countries on Nancy Lions. Back to you, Kevin, Thank you, Nancy. 95 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 96 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Still basking in my celebratory glow another Nationals win. 97 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm a bandwig and jumper, Folks, I am now an 98 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: all out and that's fan here with me in studio 99 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: to continue the celebrations. Our Shamali, CEO of Greenwich Media Strategies, 100 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: former Treasury spokesperson for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. But you're 101 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: from New York? Are you a Yankees fan? I am 102 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: a Yankees fan. So who are you rooting for? That's well, 103 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: you know I lived in DC for twelve years, so 104 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: I have a piece of my heart goes to the the Nats, 105 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: for sure. I'm really happy for the piece of your heart. Yeah, 106 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: we're till to have you. We're gonna talk more in 107 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: policy with you, coming up all of this stuff with you. 108 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: See this, Senator Lindsey Graham is actually asking for Speaker 109 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: Pelosi's help on sanctions with Turkey. I want to get 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: your take on that. But we've got more stuff to 111 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: talk about with Dave Brown and with Anna Edgerton David 112 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: Course As a Democratic strategist, former advisor to Senator Patty Murray, 113 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: and Anna Edgerton, Bloomberg News Politics editor. Let's start with 114 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: Senator Graham. What a day he's had, Anna, So, he 115 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: had lunch with President Trump and a couple of other 116 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: GOP senators and he started the day with he had 117 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: a press conference today as well, and he introduced legislation 118 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: that would do what exactly just call into question how 119 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: Democrats since Speaker Pelosi, are going about this impeachment thing. Yes, 120 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: as your your micas onlogies, um, this is a resolution 121 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: sponsor sponsored by Graham and the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. 122 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: And the resolution would basically, you know, ask for a 123 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: more open process in the impeachment proceedings. This is a 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: largely symbolic measure, and he's got a little bit of 125 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: pushback from colleagues such as Rand Paul saying, you know, 126 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: if you really want to do something concrete, you should 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: actually hold your own hearings. Graham, I'll remind you, as 128 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: the chairman of the dig of the Judiciary Committee. So 129 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: he does love that from the Senator Paul Like, he 130 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: agrees that he shouldn't be removed from office, but just poking, 131 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: poking his friend in the Republican Party does that? Yeah, 132 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: let's take a list in Dave Brown, Democratic strategist, to 133 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: what Senator Lindsey Graham had to say at his press 134 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: conference today discussing all of the impeachment inquiry. Here's Senator 135 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham. If we had done this to a Democrat, 136 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: you'd be eating us alive. If we took an opening 137 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: statement of a witness and said, there, doesn't that look bad? 138 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: You'd want to know, well, did anybody question the witness? 139 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: How did cross examination go? Dave? Why not just have 140 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: these hearings in public? Well? We will, right, I mean, 141 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: this is step one. Step two will be public hearings, 142 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: and then step three will be a trial when assuming 143 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: the presidents and peach, when the president's legal team will 144 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: be able to cross examine everybody. The reality is and 145 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: this is why I'm I'm just amused by by this, 146 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: and I think that the Center is being pretty disingenuous, 147 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: which is unfortunate. Um, the House is following the House 148 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: rules that were adopted by the Republican majority in and 149 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: then Speaker John Bayner signed It's it's House Rule eleven, 150 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: and it gives committees the ability to hold ex parte 151 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: executive sessions where they are doing what they're doing, which 152 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: is deposing witnesses. And the reality is that you've got 153 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: to think it's I think it's fully a quarter of 154 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: the Republican caucus that respectively sits on one of the 155 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: three committees of jurisdiction. So you have Republicans in the room, 156 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: their cross examining the witnesses. You've got Democrats who are 157 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: asking questions, you have staff who are asking questions, and 158 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: this process is moving at an appropriate pace. It will 159 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: become public, and then the more formal part of this 160 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: process will be public hearings, at which time you will 161 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: absolutely see the more formal cross examination that apparently the 162 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: center things should be occurring today. I just I don't 163 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: really understand this point. I think whenever you're reduced to 164 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: arguing process is opposed to substance, you're losing. Well, I mean, 165 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: I think there's two points here. Anna. Number one, the 166 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: stunt yesterday, did you see this? They I'm not going 167 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: to use the word storm, because I don't think I 168 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: mean troops storm Normandy folks. They didn't storm the stift 169 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: like they strolled in. It was more of a walk, 170 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: a casual walk. I mean they angrily strolled, angrily strolled. Right, 171 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: was there actual debate about what we're choice to use. 172 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: We're referring to the Republicans who when in yesterday to 173 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: the secure facility. What's been the fallout? And from that, 174 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, I mean, we make light of it, 175 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: but this is supposed to be a secure facility. They're 176 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: having this impeachment inquiry. But did it Did it succeed 177 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: in the sense that it created the illusion of not 178 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: even illusion the reality that Republicans are not taking this 179 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry seriously or much more than a political cable 180 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: news fodder. Yeah, So two takeaways here, And for the record, 181 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: we use barge instead of storm, of course, because Craig 182 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: Gordon would never allow would never allow for storm to 183 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: because it's the um so to takeaways One, this was 184 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: kind of the physical embodiment of the process argument that 185 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: the Republicans and President Trump have been making. They've been 186 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: saying they want this to be more open process. They 187 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: barged in to kind of, um, you know, physically put 188 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: themselves in the space where this hearing was supposed to happen. 189 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: It was Laura Cooper, a pentic On official who's supposed 190 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: to be testifying yesterday and did eventually after about a 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: five hour delay. The other takeaways, like you said, this 192 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: is a secure hearing room, and that is something that 193 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: members of Congress have always taken very seriously, and I 194 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: think was kind of unsettling for people to see that 195 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: they that these members of Congress brought, especially their personal 196 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: electronic devices into this room, which can very much compromise 197 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: the security of the space where they reviewed classified information. 198 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: From a security Standpointshamala, you have deep experience in this, 199 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: having worked in Republican and Democratic administrations. The cell phone 200 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: argument about rooms and cell phones just walk us through 201 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: the Jack bowerusque type of mentality of not being able 202 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: to have cell phones in a secure room. Right. You know, 203 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: there were a cadre of US nerds on Twitter blew 204 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: up when we saw that that Republicans were tweeting from 205 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: a skiff. A SKIFF stands for secure compartmented intelligence facility, 206 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: So it is a secure room or or floor or 207 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, that's been made secure because it's 208 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: been made to ensure that there can be no interference 209 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: by foreign or other counter counter intelligence threats. Um. Who 210 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: could be listening in on the conversation, who could be 211 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: bugging the room? All of that, right, So it's a 212 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: secure facility. By bringing a phone into that room, you 213 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: are essentially bringing in something anything that could that if hacked. 214 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: And if you're a political leader, there's a high likelihood 215 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: your phone is hacked. Um, they could turn on the 216 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: mic and start listening to those proceedings or conversations. But 217 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: they have to redo all the security. Now, No, they 218 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: don't need to redo it because it's not like they 219 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: brought in a bunch of foreign news who brought in 220 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: gifts or things like that. It's more it's to tell 221 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: you the truth. If we had done that when I 222 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: was at the Treasure Department of the White House, we 223 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: would have had a security violation. And if you have 224 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: three security violations, or if you have major security violations, 225 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: you can get suspended or expelled. Its just it's just so. 226 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: Remember when Amarossa was recording inside of the of the 227 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: situation room. I mean serious, this isn't the anyway. As 228 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the bottom line, though, I think when you look at 229 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: polls Republicans who are looking at this, and I think 230 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: when you look at independent voters, I think the goal, 231 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: according to the reporting that I've done and talking to 232 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: sources connected to the White House, the goal of yesterday's stunt, 233 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: and it was a stunt that's an accurate work choice, 234 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: was to continue to create the presentation that this impeachment 235 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: inquiry does is not leaving the political cable news fodder 236 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: world and is not something that senior Republicans, whether it's 237 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell or Lindsay Graham, are taking seriously. 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Sound On 247 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg and one oh five point 248 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: seven FM h D two. President Trump has repeatedly made 249 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: it clear that it would be much harder for US 250 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: to make a trade deals resort to the use of 251 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: violence against protesters in Hong Kong. That was Vice President 252 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Mike Pence speaking earlier today giving a foreign policy address 253 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: about the Hong Kong protesters and whether or not US 254 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: officials will make and President Trump ultimately would make a 255 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: trade deal with China as the continued protests protests UH 256 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: continued to go on. It was a wide ranging speech 257 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: that the Vice President gave, and one of the other 258 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: topics that he addressed was this ceasefire that has now 259 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: been made permanent with Turkey and the Kurds. I'm Kevin silly, 260 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: and my guests right now are some all stars who 261 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: can help navigate through the politics and the policy of this. Agarshamali, 262 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: CEO of Greenwich Media Strategies. She previously worked in Democratic 263 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: and Republican administrations UH in Treasury for Terrorism and Financial 264 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: Intelligence UH Dave Brown's here Democratic strategist and my colleague 265 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: and Edgerton, Bloomberg News Politics editor. Okay, so the big 266 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: development where twenty four hours out now Hagar from the 267 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: US making permanent this ceasefire with Turkey and the Koords, 268 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the US Kurdish allies in northern Syria. What's been the 269 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: reaction from the Kurds twenty four hours into this cigar, Well, 270 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: we're hearing reports that the ceasefire is not exactly perfect 271 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: just yet. Now. We never expected it to be perfect. 272 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: We always expected to hear stories of skirmishes. We've heard 273 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: stories of of Turkish military officials um lauding uh the 274 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: death of certain Kurds and and and standing over them 275 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: and clapping and and and commemorating things like that, and 276 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: so you know, we're we're just not there yet. It's 277 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: too soon. It was way too soon for the President 278 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: to withdraw the sanctions, because that was the only point 279 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: of leverage we had. Now, I don't want to argue 280 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: that I thought I never thought that sanctions were the 281 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: right maneuver to fix this decision by President Trump. Um, 282 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: as you know, I love to talk about sanctions. I 283 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: am very in favor of a lot of sanctions programs. 284 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: But this is this was not the right maneuver. It's 285 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:57,239 Speaker 1: not that Trump couldn't economically obliterate quote unquote Turkey's economy, um, 286 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: but using it as a means of whole ding them 287 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: back from their goals was never going to happen. Coming up, 288 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from the Interior Secretary, David Bernhardt, and 289 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: one of the things that the administration is advocating for 290 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: is to explore energy resources in the Arctic Reserve and 291 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Alaska and war And I was when I was interviewing 292 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: him earlier for Bloomberg Television, and we'll hear this coming up. 293 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking about how when you juxtaposed the notion 294 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: of the administration looking to uh at energy resources here 295 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: in the United States, coupled with the president's rhetoric and 296 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: actions in the last couple of weeks withdrawing from certain 297 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: foreign conflicts, that is a very that's an argument that 298 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: hasn't been and checked it into the mainstream, let alone 299 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: from the White House political world, and quite sometime. Right, So, 300 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: a lot of them, a lot of President Trump's maneuvers 301 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: regarding Syria and Turkey have actually they've just they haven't 302 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: gone along with a lot of his talking points. Right, 303 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: So his point about getting out of quote unquote endless wars, right, 304 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of Americans would would agree with 305 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: him on that um. Certainly the Democratic candidates agree with 306 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: him on that goal. But taking a portion of our 307 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: troops and putting them in Iraq to fight isis there 308 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: is doing the opposite. Syria was not an endless war 309 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: for the United States. But do you hear the point 310 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: that I'm aga and I'm not trying to jump all 311 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: over the map here, but the bore that I'm making 312 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: of You hear this on the campaign trail, right, And 313 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: we've got Dave Brown here, an insider for the Democratic 314 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: presidential candidates. You hear this on the campaign trail in 315 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: both parties, no matter of the year. Why are we 316 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: relying on the Middle East for oil? And that's how 317 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: this gets watered down right in the mainstream politics. Why 318 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: do we rely on the Middle East far and oil? 319 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Does this not, for better or worse? Give the president 320 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity to say, I'm trying to get oil from Alaska. 321 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to drill, baby drill, Sarah palin In in Alaska, 322 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: and I'm pulling troops and ending winding down needless wars 323 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. And so how do you combat 324 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: that except that he can't because half of the troops 325 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: in Syria he sent to Iraq and the other half 326 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: he sent to protect protect the oil fields in the 327 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: northeast of Syria where the Curds are. The very fact 328 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: that he made that decision, or that somebody in the 329 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: administration advised him to make that decision, underscores that they 330 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: do think. Number one, that they do think that there's 331 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: a real threat there that whether it's Iran or Turkey 332 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: or Russia or the Syrian government could take advantage of 333 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: those oil fields. But it undermines the talking point domestically 334 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: or and and internationally that the United States doesn't care 335 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: about Middle East oil right. We continuously say that, we've 336 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: been saying that for years. But then to go say 337 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: that we're not going to protect the Kurds, but we're 338 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: going to take our troops and protect the oil fields 339 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: definitely puts that message, flips it on it, and the 340 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: dre Ten Bloomberg News Politics editor take a listen to 341 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: what Vice President Mike Penn said earlier about this topic. 342 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: While speaking earlier today here he is Turkey and our 343 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: Kurdish allies had now created an opportunity the international community 344 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: can create a safe zone that we believe will restore 345 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: peace and security for all the peoples of this war 346 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: torn region. What's the reaction been and Edgerton from Republicans 347 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: and hawks, Republicans in the Senate in particular on this 348 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: what the administration describes as a permanent ceasefire. A lot 349 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: of the concern that we hear from Republicans is that 350 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: by international community securing the safe stone, we mean Russia, 351 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: and Russia has been one of the elements of this 352 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: equation that has really come out on top with the 353 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: with with the withdrawal of US troops that Russia of 354 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: course backs Bishar al Assad, the Syrian president who has 355 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: occupied some of the territory formally controlled by the Kurds 356 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: and also has become closer with Turkey. And the more 357 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: that the US antagonizes Turkey with threats of sanctions from 358 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: Congress or um you know, different, uh kind of ways, 359 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: the pushback on this military action, even though the president's 360 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: President Trump seemed to be okay with it, that creates 361 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Russia to come in and solidify their 362 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: alliance with Turkey as well. Dave take us on the 363 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: campaign trail through the lens of foreign policy. It seems 364 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: that all of the Democratic top tier candidates are just 365 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: criticizing the president's foreign policies and his rhetorical approach foreign 366 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: policy by tweet is the common thread that we hear. 367 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: But when will there be true differences that are illustrated 368 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: between commander in Chief Elizabeth Warren, Commander in Chief Joe Biden, 369 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: Commander in Chief Bernie Sanders. When will that start to 370 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: be more apparent, because I don't think it has been 371 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: in all of the debates, and I've been everyone well, 372 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: I think that the key difference between the Democratic field 373 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: and its entirety and the president strategy right, and so 374 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: every single Democrat is approaching foreign policy through the prism 375 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: of what are what is in the strategic interests of 376 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: the United States, and that supposes that there is a 377 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: strategy that is informing US foreign policy. You know, if 378 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: you think about it from the perspective of every president 379 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: having a foreign policy doctrine, chaos is probably Trump's right. 380 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: So if I'm Pete Bota or I'm Senator Elizabeth Warren, 381 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: part of what I need to do on the on 382 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: the campaign field is differentiate myself from that and be 383 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: able to articulate a cogent, coherent, informed approach, whether that's 384 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: an approach to denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula, whether it's a 385 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: a strategic approach to China and actually exacting trade concessions 386 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: that are in the best interests of farmers and US manufacturing, 387 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: or whether it's in the Middle East, has has already 388 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: been discussed in terms of ensuring we're not opening a 389 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: power vacuum the Putin can take advantage of. And that's 390 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the difference. And I'm surprised the foreign policy hasn't come 391 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: up as as much as it would candidly as Joe 392 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: Biden would have hoped, because in the spin room, you've 393 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: got the top. In the last debate, seriously, in Ohio, 394 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: they sent out Senator Chris Coon's Democrat Delaware to really 395 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: draw a contrast with Joe Biden's foreign policy worldview and 396 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: that of Elizabeth Warrent. I just say that there's been 397 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: so many other stuff in the news that they haven't 398 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: been able to draw that contrast as forcefully as they 399 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: would have liked. And I do think Democratic voters do 400 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: want to hear what Commander and she you're shaking your own, no, Dave, 401 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: but I think they do want to hear about what 402 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: would how would each of these candidates lead on foreign policy? 403 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: Coming up an exclusive interview within tear your Secretary David Bernhardt. 404 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: Don't miss that. Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on 405 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Apple iTunes at Bloomberg dot com, where by downloading the 406 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app, you can also find us on Radio 407 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 408 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television of Bloomberg Radio. You're 409 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound On with Kevin 410 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: Surreley on Bloomberge and one oh five point seven f 411 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: m h D two, Baltimore. Earlier today, I spoke with 412 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: US Secretary of Interior David Bernhardt for Bloomberg Television, and 413 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: then we interviewed him and recorded a separate interview for 414 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Take a listen to my interview with Secretary Bernhard. 415 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Mr Secretary, thank you for coming on, Thanks for having 416 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: me all right, So you were just in my home 417 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania. Not in Philly, not outside of Philly 418 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: and Dolco. You were actually in Pittsburgh, Steeler Country with 419 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: President Trump yesterday. What'd you guys talk about? Well, the 420 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: President talk try talked about the fact that he um 421 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: was able to deliver on every promise that he had 422 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: made to the people of Pittsburgh when he went to 423 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh three years ago and gave a major energy speech. 424 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: I was at that speech, and he talked a lot 425 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: about the regulatory policies, uh, and how permitting used in particular. 426 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: And now here you are, Mr Secretary today with the 427 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: this big announcement about the way that permitting uses has 428 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: actually been a source of revenue for states like Pennsylvania. Well, 429 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Today, we are pleased to announce that 430 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: we UM have just closed our books on fiscal year 431 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and in doing that, UM, it's clear that 432 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: revenue from oil and gas operations on federal lands is 433 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: nearly above where it was in fiscal year. And what 434 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: that means is that we have generated about eleven point 435 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: nine six billion dollars on federal land. And that money, 436 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: some of it, most of it comes much of it 437 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: comes to the federal government but much of it goes 438 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: right back to the states where those revenues were produced, 439 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: and the states use those moneys for schools, for roads, 440 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: for law enforcement, and for the things that they really need. 441 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: And this money means a lot to those states. For example, 442 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: New Mexico receives nearly a little over a billion dollars 443 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: UH this year for billion dollars, billion dollars. There's a 444 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: lot of money. So so one of the I mean, 445 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: you know this, I mean it's such a politically contentious time. 446 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: Secretary Bernhard and critics of of the administration's policies on 447 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: this front, especially as it relates to fracking, they'll they'll 448 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: say it's bad for the environment and whatnot, and that 449 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: it's a big boon, a boom for the for the 450 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: private sector. But what you're saying is that these permits, UH, 451 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: these de regulatory policies have actually been a way of 452 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: investment almost in in communities in states like p A, 453 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: in states like New Mexico, Colorado where you're from, UH, 454 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: and and that this has been a way to invest 455 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: in the US now. Absolutely when you look at um 456 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: small businesses that are created in these areas where these 457 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: activities are taking place. What you see is tremendous economic opportunity. 458 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: And you know this is uh just a part of 459 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: the overall vision that the President had, and that vision 460 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: has led to common sense regulation, lower taxes from the 461 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: American people and UM and frankly, greater economic opportunities. When 462 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: when you hear the President say, um that you know 463 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: six and a half million jobs have been created, UM, 464 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: that unemployment is at fifty year lows for um those 465 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: without a high school education. Those are those are phenomenal facts. UM. 466 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: I I met with some folks from a state a 467 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. You know that state's unemployment rate 468 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: right now is two point five percent. And we have 469 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: this month, I believe that um, there were more um 470 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: more jobs open, seven million jobs open and about five 471 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: million people unemployed. And think about that as a factory. 472 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: All right. I gotta ask you about a war, because 473 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk in recent weeks about the 474 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: Middle East and oil and whatnot, and many folks, UH say, 475 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: why aren't we looking at when we have at an war? 476 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: And so the President obviously has made a major announcement 477 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: as it relates to permit usage UH and and leasing 478 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: and drilling UH in Alaska's an war at the reserves. 479 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Are we going to get a sale by the end 480 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: of the year. Well, I think we're certainly going to 481 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: finalize our plan for leasing and then we'll move through 482 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: the process to initiate a sale. And that is very 483 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: exciting because the reality is, uh, Congress and the folks 484 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: in d C debated for about forty years what to 485 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: do with that are years and this president and the 486 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: Congress came up with a plan and directed us to 487 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: develop a policing program and do two least sales over 488 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: a ten year period. And so we're in the process 489 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: of doing the environmental analysis to do that, finalizing that, 490 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: finalizing um our environmental analysis relating to a nanger species, 491 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: and then we'll certainly finalize the plan and begin the 492 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: process to conduct a LEASA rapid fire. Best place to 493 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: go fishing in America? Well, I fish a lot on 494 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: the chest Peak Bay, So I gotta say that's where 495 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: neigh Absolutely, will the Nats win the World Series? I 496 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: sure hope. So I got two kids that are banking 497 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: on And the final question, you gotta tell us the 498 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: story when you were sixteen years old, you actually created 499 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: an arcade in Colorado because you didn't. And and my 500 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: understanding was that you were so used to the boom 501 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: and bus cycle in Colorado and economic impacts of the 502 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: energy sector that you said, we gotta have the revenue 503 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: for rifle Colorado. So you created an arcade that that 504 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: that's right. I grew up in a town that went 505 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: through a major um oil shell bust and about folks 506 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: lost their jobs in a single day. And that has 507 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: a devastating effect on a small town. And it's you 508 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: remember and oh, it's it's indelibly etched in your mind. 509 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: But what what I did is I thought, man, we 510 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: need a place where folks can go hang out, just 511 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: because um, things were really tough. And I went to 512 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the city council and I said, I have an idea. UM. 513 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: I found out that to do my idea, they had 514 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: to put a lot of taxes on arcades, uh and 515 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: on video machines. So I went down and said, hey, 516 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: give me a brick tax break on my video games. 517 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: And they they felt like they could go with me 518 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: on that one, and they did, so I got I 519 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: got a break, and that was my first experience on 520 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: what high taxes meant. Small Business Secretary Bernhard It's been 521 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Thanks for coming on Bloomberg Sound Would you 522 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: come back anytime? All right? David Bernhardt, US Secretary of Interior. 523 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: That was my conversation with him earlier today. Coming up, 524 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar? I'm Kevin Cerelli. You're listening 525 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound On with Kevin Surreley 526 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg one and one oh five point seven of 527 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: m h D two Baltimore. I'm Kevin Cerelli, Chief Washington 528 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. That's Beautiful Day 529 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: by You two off of my all time favorite album 530 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: All That You Can't Leave Behind by YouTube. But we're 531 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: not a rock show. We're a political policy show. And 532 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: it's now time for what's on the Panel's rate radar? 533 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: That song always puts me in a good mood. Garshamali's here. 534 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: She's an insider a foreign policy She's worked in democratic 535 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: and conservative administration on terrorism and financial in intelligence. Dave Brown, 536 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: democratic strategist, and Anna Edgerton, Bloomberg News Politics editor. Thank 537 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: you all so much for being here. I'm excited because 538 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: this is such a great panel today and you all 539 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: have very different interests as it relates to the political 540 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: policy world. So I don't know what you're going to 541 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: say is on your radar, But Ugar Shamali, I will 542 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: start with you, what is on your radar? Well? I am. 543 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with Vice President Pence's speech today 544 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: on Hong Kong and the Hong Kong protests and towards China. 545 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: He really this was a big speech. I don't think 546 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: it got the coverage that it should have. Um most importantly, 547 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: because he said everything right. Let's listen. You know that. 548 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I am very objective in my criticism um 549 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: late certainly the last few weeks, I've been very critical 550 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: of the administration's foreign policy. But he really did get 551 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: everything right. He UM. He said that you know that 552 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: Hong Kong is what China could be if it embrace liberty. 553 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: He slammed the Chinese for their treatment of the weakers, 554 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: He slammed the NBA and Nike for siding with Beijing. 555 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: And most importantly, I want to I want to share 556 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: one specific quote that he said about the Hong Kong protesters. 557 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: He said, quote, we stand with you, we are inspired 558 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: by you, we urge you to stay on the path 559 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: of non violent protest. And that's amazing. We've been waiting 560 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: for this, those of us who have been following this protest, 561 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: we've been waiting for this. I was at the White 562 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: House during the Arab Spring, and I remember how difficult 563 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: it was to figure out US policy toward each country 564 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: and to figure out what to say, and those words 565 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: really matter to the people on the ground. And China 566 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: is a complicated one. I mean, I get it. I was. 567 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: I always thought that the administration should have come out 568 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: in favor of the protesters, but I can understand why 569 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: it was a difficult decision. Why. Well, because of the 570 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: trade talks. Because of the trade talks, and those trade 571 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: talks impact Americans, right, so there's a direct impact on 572 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: how we deal with China regarding our consumership, our prices, 573 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: things like that. Right now, we've already gone down that path. 574 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: It's just it's remarkable to see just the multi layers 575 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: of everything. I mean, this has just been all encompassing. 576 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: My mentor and friend here at Bloomberg, Tom Key always says, 577 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: don't complate stories, but this is one that touches everything 578 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: from Lebron James to Hong Kong and to free see 579 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: the free speech to high fashion. I mean as so, 580 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: for for Vice President Pence to get out there to 581 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: deliver a Hawker speech and hugguard. I'm not putting you 582 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: on the spot. You've been quite critical of the Trump 583 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: administration and your public comments. I always read you on 584 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: NBC dot com. You've got this column that comes out right, No, 585 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: I had it not ed rereading that. But for this, 586 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: for him to do this today, what take us behind 587 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: the scenes? Why do you think they they the administration 588 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: thought it was important for the Vice president to get 589 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: out front on this, especially today at this particular moment. Well, 590 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: they've been under pressure to say something. So they for 591 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: the last since June when the protests started. Uh, the 592 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: administration has been under pressure to come out and voice 593 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: support for the Hong Kong protesters. And even that they 594 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: have previously, I mean, their their policies actually just they 595 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: tend to be a little contradictory or hypocritical in some 596 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: In some instances, however, they've been strong about, or or 597 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: purported to be strong about, supporting um or being against 598 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: political prisoners abroad and things of that nature. And so 599 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: we've all been waiting for them to come out with something. 600 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: They have to say something. You as the United States, 601 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: as the leader of the free world, you have a 602 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: responsibility to come out with some kind of statement when 603 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: you see situations around the world that have to do 604 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: with a majority voicing their opinion about something. And again, 605 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: I can understand why it's difficult. When I handled Syria 606 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the Syria crisis, it took US 607 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: months to call on Syria. President US had to step 608 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: down and he was a blatant murderer and um and 609 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: remain so. And so I can understand the complexities. And 610 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: with China it's even worse than Syria. With Syria we 611 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: had no economic relationship, We had barely a diplomatic relationship. 612 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: The only reason we stalled was because of the hope 613 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: of peace with Israel. But with China, you're talking about 614 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: something that has an impact as much broader implications. So 615 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: that's what's on my mind. I wish I could add 616 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: about the Lebanon protest. As an American of Lebanese descent, 617 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: I am fascinated with what's happening over there. Come back. 618 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: I want to get everyone else. We'll talk about it. 619 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm always appreciative for your time and your insights because 620 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: you really have again worked and administrations on both sides 621 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: of the aisle, and you're able to look at this 622 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: through such a with experience on foreign policy. Dave, what's 623 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: on your radar, Dave Brown, Democratic strategist. I'm gonna take 624 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: this back to the to the United States from moment 625 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: to the trail because I certainly cannot speak with any 626 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: degree of authority from what we just heard. Um, I'm 627 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: focused on Iowa, yes, and I'm super interesting. I want 628 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: to go to i I miss it. I miss I'm 629 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: jealous of Tyler Pager or Bloomberg campaign trail reporter. I 630 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: would love to have some Bison and demoin Well, look, 631 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: I'm focused on that are being tariffs. Go ahead, Sorry 632 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: that came out to sure you saw it, And I 633 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: just want to read a couple of numbers because I 634 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: think it's super interesting. So Elizabeth Warren now firmly ensconced 635 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: at the top of the field, Pete Buddha jedge jumping 636 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: to Amy Klobuchar interestingly coming in at four percent, which 637 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: actually puts her in fifth place. Joe Biden dropped too, 638 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: and that is I think really interesting for a couple 639 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: of reasons. One, the fact that we've seen Senator Clobachar 640 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: jump the field the way she has is definitely a 641 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: reflection of the debate. And the fact that the fact 642 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: that I think there's an ascendency of centrist candidates uh 643 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Pete and and and Senator Clobachar taking on Elizabeth Warren 644 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: on Medicare for all during the last debate that was 645 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: a really interesting exchange. And you know, the reality that 646 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: the Vice president Biden has lost his hold I think 647 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: speaks just to to frankly where this is probably gonna 648 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: net out for him. UM and Elizabeth Warren now firmly 649 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: ensconce is the progressive. She's still straddling that line a 650 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: bit in terms of also trying to play I think 651 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: a strategic role in pulling some voters away from Joe Biden. UM. 652 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: But you know, Bernie Sanders is clearly at eighteen percent, 653 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: he's behind UM, He's behind Elizabeth Warren by what ten points? 654 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: He's well ahead of Biden. I mean, that's that's fascinating. 655 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: And then when you start breaking down like who's the 656 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: second choice for these folks, that get super interesting. In 657 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren just heads and tails, and that's that's that 658 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: is very interesting, especially in Iowan and the Biden campaign 659 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: has been pushing that they're in for the long haul. 660 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: But how did that work out for Rudy Giuliani uh 661 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: and his and his Florida I mean, I'm not talking 662 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: about now, I'm talking about in the past when he 663 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: banked on Florida. And Areton Bloomberg News Politics editor, what's 664 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: on your radar? I am looking at all impeachment the 665 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: remainder of this weekend. Next week, um, I think that 666 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: we're kind of entering a new phase of the investigations. 667 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: There's going to be a hearing on Saturday, which I 668 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: am unfortunately going to be covering, but with the State 669 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: Department's Phil Reaker, and you know, pretty soon we're going 670 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: to be here seeing those public hearings, so that'll be 671 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: an interesting development. My good friend Nancy Lyons just messaged 672 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: in our group chat for behind the scenes just some 673 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: breaking news, which I guess is on my it are. 674 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: But I have another thing I want to talk about too. 675 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal is reporting the President Trump said 676 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: he planned to attend the World Series on Sunday, when 677 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: Washington is hosting Game five of the matchup between the 678 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: Hometown Nationals and the Houston Astros. President Trump will be attending. 679 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: According to the Journal, Uh the uh. The game on 680 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: on Sunday. But he's definitely getting impeached. But if they win, yeah, hey, 681 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: they're up to it all right. So here's what's actually 682 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: on my radar. I was so disappointed I couldn't attend 683 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: one of my favorite events in Washington the other evening. 684 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: I had other plans, but the Elizabeth Dole Foundation had 685 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: their annual gala, which helps caregivers for military families. They 686 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: just do incredible work. It's a nonpartisan events, and the 687 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dole Foundation honored Michelle Obama along with other Republicans, 688 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Dole spoke and called for unity and helping 689 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: our brave service men and women who serve overseas. But 690 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to We have Bloomberg. We talk a lot 691 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: about artificial intelligence, and one of of things that the 692 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dole Foundation promoted last evening was this partnership and 693 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: technology consulting that they've developed with Booze Allen. And what 694 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: it does is it's a map that relies on high 695 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: tech technology that will allow for military caregivers locations UH 696 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: to be shared to help individuals needs who must be addressed. 697 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: So it's an interesting display of the public and the 698 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: private sector working together with great groups like the Elizabeth 699 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: Dole Foundation to help again. UH so many of our 700 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: military caregivers and their families and the people that they 701 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: are working with, and they're working with the Department of 702 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: Veterans Affairs and the Census Bureau. So that's what's on 703 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: my radar. Some non partisanship here. Thank you to our panel. 704 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: Thank you to listen for listening. Download the Bloomberg Salent 705 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: on podcasts on Apple, it, tums at Bloomberg dot com, 706 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: and the Bloomberg Business App. I'm Kevin Cirelli. You're listening 707 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg