WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Dovid Efune 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.777 You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make 0:00:14.777 --> 0:00:17.657 sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app 0:00:17.897 --> 0:00:19.737 or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:20.097 --> 0:00:22.857 Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Brief, diving into national security, 0:00:22.857 --> 0:00:26.577 the Middle East, Israel, Hamas, Iran and more with our 0:00:26.617 --> 0:00:30.577 friend David iFun on this episode. He is the publisher 0:00:30.617 --> 0:00:33.177 of the New York Son David. Always a pleasure, good 0:00:33.177 --> 0:00:33.537 to see you. 0:00:34.937 --> 0:00:36.377 Likewise, Buck, thanks for having. 0:00:36.177 --> 0:00:38.737 Me first, if you would, would you put into context 0:00:38.777 --> 0:00:43.297 for us? You know, last weekend there was this strike 0:00:43.457 --> 0:00:47.257 of drones and missiles essentially all just swatted away by 0:00:47.297 --> 0:00:51.937 Israel and its allies. What was your your what were 0:00:51.977 --> 0:00:54.977 your biggest takeaways from from that and how do you 0:00:54.977 --> 0:00:56.777 think it might affect things going forward? 0:00:59.577 --> 0:01:02.017 Well, I think the biggest takeaway is just for people 0:01:02.057 --> 0:01:07.137 to understand that while Iran and its fellow travelers in 0:01:07.177 --> 0:01:09.977 the region kind of talk a big game, it really 0:01:10.257 --> 0:01:16.697 is outmatched when it comes to direct combat with the Israelis. 0:01:16.497 --> 0:01:19.457 As we saw. You know, Israel has multiple tiers of 0:01:19.497 --> 0:01:22.497 missile defense, so they have you know, the David Sling 0:01:22.657 --> 0:01:24.297 is kind of the first layer. Then you have the 0:01:24.337 --> 0:01:26.217 iron dumb, then you have the arrow, plus you have 0:01:26.257 --> 0:01:30.857 patriot missile batteries. Obviously the participation of quite a few 0:01:30.897 --> 0:01:34.057 allies in the region, including Arab states by the way, 0:01:34.137 --> 0:01:37.777 that are see Iran equally as an adversary in the 0:01:37.817 --> 0:01:41.817 way that that the Israelis do. Iran, on the other hand, 0:01:42.497 --> 0:01:45.617 has no missile defenses whatsoever, and the Israelis have some 0:01:45.737 --> 0:01:49.377 quite potent ballistic missiles as well, Jericho missiles, and they 0:01:49.377 --> 0:01:53.657 could inflict a great deal of damage, which is why 0:01:54.017 --> 0:01:57.577 up until now, Iran has taken the approach of working 0:01:57.577 --> 0:02:00.697 through proxies and has sort of developed what it caused, 0:02:00.737 --> 0:02:04.257 this ring of fire of many proxy states surrounding the 0:02:04.297 --> 0:02:07.057 Jewish state with his ball on the south of Lebanon 0:02:07.137 --> 0:02:09.777 and branches of his bowl in the south of Syria, 0:02:09.817 --> 0:02:13.217 and then of course Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Gaza. 0:02:13.217 --> 0:02:16.697 Obviously that reports lately that Iran is also working to 0:02:16.697 --> 0:02:20.097 de stabilize Jordan, which is on another one of the borders, 0:02:20.097 --> 0:02:23.697 and Huthi's and Yemen have seen missiles flying towards it 0:02:24.097 --> 0:02:28.177 and towards Israel from the Red Sea angle. So it 0:02:28.217 --> 0:02:30.897 was unusual, i would say, at least from my end, 0:02:30.937 --> 0:02:35.457 to see the Iranians enter directly into conflict. Seemed like 0:02:35.497 --> 0:02:37.697 they were trying to make a point, and I would 0:02:37.737 --> 0:02:41.617 suspect that they were comfortable doing so because they were 0:02:41.657 --> 0:02:45.017 confident on the outside that the international community, led by 0:02:45.017 --> 0:02:48.937 the United States, would really lean on Israel into tempering 0:02:48.937 --> 0:02:51.577 its response, which of course is exactly what we've seen 0:02:51.617 --> 0:02:52.657 happen in the aftermath. 0:02:53.257 --> 0:02:56.897 Do you think that the IDF, or rather, do you 0:02:56.937 --> 0:03:00.657 think that the Iranians knew the IDF would be able 0:03:00.737 --> 0:03:06.137 to effectively swat away all of the salvo fired or 0:03:06.857 --> 0:03:09.857 you know, so basically people have been saying, this is 0:03:09.897 --> 0:03:12.217 what I'm trying to get out with you, David, that 0:03:12.297 --> 0:03:17.937 this is Iran throwing effectively at a lethal tantrum. Yes, 0:03:18.017 --> 0:03:19.577 an act of war. I mean, not to make it 0:03:19.617 --> 0:03:22.057 sound like a minor thing it's not, but that this 0:03:22.177 --> 0:03:25.297 was for the domestic political optics of we're not going 0:03:25.337 --> 0:03:28.737 to just let our brothers in Gaza suffer while doing nothing. 0:03:29.097 --> 0:03:32.017 So they do this, which doesn't really do anything other 0:03:32.097 --> 0:03:35.457 than make Iran look like it's pretty militarily impotent. Is 0:03:35.497 --> 0:03:38.857 that How do you view that assessment? I feel like 0:03:38.857 --> 0:03:40.177 that was pretty common. 0:03:39.937 --> 0:03:42.377 You know, I don't think so there have been times 0:03:42.417 --> 0:03:46.377 in the past when Iran has wanted to take that approach, 0:03:46.417 --> 0:03:50.297 specifically not only because of the Israel, but regarding the 0:03:50.377 --> 0:03:54.217 United States. I think their response to the targeted assassination 0:03:54.297 --> 0:03:56.777 of customs so the money under the Trump administration was 0:03:56.777 --> 0:04:01.657 an example. They telegraphed an advance the basis that they 0:04:01.657 --> 0:04:05.857 were targeting in Irbil, in northern Iraq, Kurdis Kurdish Iraq, 0:04:06.617 --> 0:04:11.537 and they deliberately missed their target by a significant margin. 0:04:11.617 --> 0:04:16.177 So if that was the intention, I don't think they'd 0:04:16.217 --> 0:04:18.857 have had to have had to throw quite quite the 0:04:18.897 --> 0:04:22.057 barrage that that they had. I mean, they they they've 0:04:22.097 --> 0:04:24.297 done that in the past, and it doesn't look like this. 0:04:24.497 --> 0:04:27.457 Let's put it that way. When you when you send 0:04:27.537 --> 0:04:31.337 sort of three hundred projectiles over, including some pretty advanced 0:04:31.337 --> 0:04:34.897 missiles and different types of missiles and waves, what it 0:04:34.937 --> 0:04:36.897 looks like to me is as if they're trying to 0:04:36.977 --> 0:04:40.297 overwhelm Israeli air defenses, which means that their intention was 0:04:40.297 --> 0:04:41.977 that some of these missiles would get through. And of 0:04:42.017 --> 0:04:45.777 course some of them carry massive payloads, so you know, 0:04:45.817 --> 0:04:47.857 you only need one or two to land to cause 0:04:48.297 --> 0:04:51.017 you know, really significant damage. So I don't think it 0:04:51.057 --> 0:04:53.417 was their intention just to sort of make a loud noise. 0:04:54.417 --> 0:04:56.617 I think their intention was that some of these missiles 0:04:56.617 --> 0:05:00.177 would hit their mark and it would draw as weel 0:05:00.217 --> 0:05:03.177 into into a broader conflict. And they were surprised I 0:05:03.217 --> 0:05:07.697 think by the potency of Israel's defenses, but also the 0:05:07.737 --> 0:05:09.817 speed with which as well was able to mobilize. It's 0:05:09.817 --> 0:05:13.417 a line in the region which which were actually crucial 0:05:13.457 --> 0:05:16.257 into into preventing this baroja. I think without the United 0:05:16.257 --> 0:05:19.177 States participation in some allies in the region, it would 0:05:19.217 --> 0:05:22.857 have been hard for Israel to contain this this barranch 0:05:22.897 --> 0:05:24.297 of this extent on on its own. 0:05:24.497 --> 0:05:26.577 Can you can you speak to that actually, because the 0:05:26.577 --> 0:05:30.577 the network of alliances that Israel has, I mean, this 0:05:30.657 --> 0:05:32.697 is a moment where you see who your allies really are, right, 0:05:32.737 --> 0:05:34.617 I mean this, this is when it counts, when you 0:05:34.657 --> 0:05:37.657 can count on somebody to shoot incoming missiles to your 0:05:37.737 --> 0:05:41.537 territory down on your behalf or not right. And I 0:05:41.577 --> 0:05:43.417 mean some of the countries that I saw involved in this, 0:05:43.497 --> 0:05:46.697 for example the Jordanians, but others. There are other reports 0:05:46.737 --> 0:05:51.737 that even other regional allies were you know, helping with 0:05:52.417 --> 0:05:56.497 early warning on this, like who was involved in subverting 0:05:56.537 --> 0:05:58.817 this strike by the Iranians on Israel. 0:06:00.657 --> 0:06:03.937 Well, certainly first and foremost the United States, but I 0:06:03.977 --> 0:06:06.577 do believe, you know, intelligence from the Ammiratis and the 0:06:06.577 --> 0:06:11.217 Saudis and others and the Jordanians prove played a pivotal role. 0:06:11.257 --> 0:06:14.777 I mean, look, one of the most baffling, well, I 0:06:14.777 --> 0:06:18.697 don't want to say baffling, but ine excusable positions that 0:06:18.777 --> 0:06:23.737 the Biden administration has taken has been its approach towards Iran, 0:06:23.977 --> 0:06:27.457 even more so than its approach towards Russia. It's kind 0:06:27.497 --> 0:06:32.617 of battling the regime and its initiatives. It's meddling in 0:06:32.657 --> 0:06:35.177 the region. It's belligerents in the region with one hand, 0:06:35.577 --> 0:06:39.137 while also sustaining in fueling it with the other hand. 0:06:39.497 --> 0:06:43.017 You know, we are fueling the fire and then wondering 0:06:43.097 --> 0:06:46.297 why the hell it's hot. You know, that's really what's 0:06:46.337 --> 0:06:48.057 going on here. I mean, the amount of funds that 0:06:48.057 --> 0:06:53.617 the Biden administration has allowed to flow to the Iranians indirectly, yes, 0:06:53.657 --> 0:06:56.337 but funds that the regime would not have had access 0:06:56.377 --> 0:07:00.417 to otherwise. In the end of the day, there are 0:07:01.177 --> 0:07:04.017 dozens and dozens of actors and allies in the region 0:07:05.377 --> 0:07:09.297 very happy to see the Iranians gone and dealt with. 0:07:09.377 --> 0:07:12.217 I mean, I posted this on Twitter around the time 0:07:12.217 --> 0:07:17.097 of the strike that ending the regime in Tehran, regime 0:07:17.177 --> 0:07:21.297 change in Tehran, or ending the Ayatola regime in Tehran 0:07:21.497 --> 0:07:25.017 really is a war to end all Mid East wars. 0:07:25.457 --> 0:07:28.737 I mean the effects that it has. It would strangle 0:07:28.777 --> 0:07:32.257 the occupation in southern Lebanon and in the Syrian Golan. 0:07:32.737 --> 0:07:35.177 It would obviously boost our allies like the Kurds and 0:07:35.217 --> 0:07:38.057 others in northern Iraqi. You know, most of Iraq is 0:07:38.097 --> 0:07:41.457 now also controlled by Iranian allies, both on the ground 0:07:41.457 --> 0:07:45.257 and in politics. It would basically end the civil war 0:07:45.297 --> 0:07:48.617 and Yemen. It would stabilize Jordan. It would bring safety 0:07:48.657 --> 0:07:50.657 to the Red Sea shipping lanes, which of course is 0:07:50.697 --> 0:07:55.137 an interest in many international community. It would weaken the Taliban, 0:07:55.457 --> 0:07:59.657 who of course are major human rights violators and now 0:07:59.697 --> 0:08:03.817 cultivating you know, god knows what terror basis and new 0:08:03.897 --> 0:08:08.177 Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan. The Amtis, the Saudis 0:08:08.177 --> 0:08:12.097 and Moroccans, the Egyptians, the Bahraini and most of all 0:08:12.417 --> 0:08:16.817 the people of Iran. The people of Iran would all 0:08:17.017 --> 0:08:21.097 welcome an initiative to remove this, to remove this regime. 0:08:21.137 --> 0:08:24.217 I mean, you have millions of people in Iran who 0:08:24.257 --> 0:08:30.817 would like to see Israel strike Iranian targets, IRGC targets, 0:08:30.897 --> 0:08:35.497 Islamic regime targets who they see as their primary enemy. So, 0:08:36.137 --> 0:08:39.097 you know, if you want to solve the issue, for 0:08:39.137 --> 0:08:42.417 a long time, we've kind of just been dancing around it. 0:08:42.497 --> 0:08:44.817 You know, a fight with Hamasa, fight with hasbella fight 0:08:44.857 --> 0:08:50.257 with the who theser, you know, bombing, you know, some 0:08:50.657 --> 0:08:53.097 of the hoothy capacity in Yemen to free up the 0:08:53.137 --> 0:08:55.497 shipping lanes, or this or that or that, or this 0:08:55.537 --> 0:08:57.937 attack boat or that attack boat. You know, it all 0:08:57.937 --> 0:09:00.657 comes from Tehran. It all comes from the Islamic regime. 0:09:00.897 --> 0:09:04.217 You solve that problem and you bring yourself one hundred 0:09:04.217 --> 0:09:06.017 steps closer to peace in the Middle East. 0:09:06.337 --> 0:09:09.137 You mentioned Biden and his approach to Iran. I want 0:09:09.137 --> 0:09:11.577 to dive into that, and also how things stand with 0:09:11.657 --> 0:09:14.697 Israel and the American Jewish community as well. Given all 0:09:14.737 --> 0:09:16.977 these dynamics. We'll get to that with David Ifoon of 0:09:17.017 --> 0:09:19.137 the New York Sun here in a second. But you 0:09:19.217 --> 0:09:21.777 might have seen this recently, people are going to big 0:09:21.817 --> 0:09:25.497 box stores out there and big chain stores and they're saying, hey, 0:09:25.537 --> 0:09:28.937 do you have gold because they want to buy precious metals, 0:09:29.497 --> 0:09:34.057 and you should really consider this as well. Everyone. Gold 0:09:34.097 --> 0:09:37.817 precious metals are a tangible currency, something you can have 0:09:37.937 --> 0:09:40.457 on hand as a bug out plan. They allow you 0:09:40.497 --> 0:09:43.897 to diversify your portfolio. They're a hedge against inflation, a 0:09:43.937 --> 0:09:47.657 store of value, and look, historically gold increases in value 0:09:47.657 --> 0:09:51.857 over time. We're in an inflationary environment. Gold is something 0:09:51.897 --> 0:09:55.217 you can use to balance out your exposure, your risk 0:09:55.257 --> 0:09:59.217 to the markets and to the currency right now. Because 0:09:59.297 --> 0:10:02.497 gold is solid, it is good, it is tangible. You 0:10:02.537 --> 0:10:05.177 should call the Oxford Gold Group. That's who I trust, 0:10:05.177 --> 0:10:07.457 That's who I go to for my gold and silver purchases. 0:10:07.697 --> 0:10:10.017 Because nobody can predict the future, but we can prepare 0:10:10.457 --> 0:10:12.577 and that's what the Oxford Gold Group wants you to do. 0:10:12.977 --> 0:10:15.977 They make owning gold and silver simple and easy to understand. 0:10:16.657 --> 0:10:19.457 Call the Oxford Gold Group right now. You may qualify 0:10:19.537 --> 0:10:22.137 for up to ten thousand dollars in free precious medals 0:10:22.497 --> 0:10:26.137 eight three three nine nine five gold. That's eight three 0:10:26.297 --> 0:10:32.057 three nine nine five gold eight three three nine nine 0:10:32.257 --> 0:10:38.737 five gold. All right, David D. Biden administration at this point. 0:10:38.737 --> 0:10:41.217 I mean, the relationship with net Niyahu. Can we speak 0:10:41.217 --> 0:10:43.297 about that for a minute, because it seems to me 0:10:43.497 --> 0:10:46.577 like Biden wants to have it both ways. He wants 0:10:46.617 --> 0:10:49.897 to say I'm the great ally of Israel, like presidents 0:10:49.937 --> 0:10:53.177 before me have been, at least some of them, but 0:10:53.297 --> 0:10:55.657 also I'm going to dictate what you can do to 0:10:55.737 --> 0:10:58.057 defend your own people in a moment of crisis, like 0:10:58.657 --> 0:10:59.337 what's going on. 0:11:00.257 --> 0:11:02.297 Yeah, I mean, the first thing to keep in mind 0:11:02.417 --> 0:11:06.377 is that, in truth, every single American president, with the 0:11:06.377 --> 0:11:09.977 exception of Donald Trump, has tried to meddle in Israel's affairs, 0:11:10.137 --> 0:11:13.297 not just Israel's affairs and lots of international affairs, but 0:11:13.777 --> 0:11:16.497 in Israel's afairs. I mean, it was George Bush that 0:11:16.657 --> 0:11:20.017 welcome and pressured Ariel Sharon to pull out of Gaza 0:11:20.017 --> 0:11:21.737 in the third place in two thousand and five. I 0:11:21.817 --> 0:11:24.457 was there when it happened. It was Condoleeza Rice that 0:11:24.577 --> 0:11:27.137 insisted that Hamas be allowed to run in the two 0:11:27.137 --> 0:11:30.697 thousand and seven elections that shortly followed in Gaza that 0:11:30.777 --> 0:11:34.617 brought Hamas to power. So it is usual part for 0:11:34.697 --> 0:11:38.657 the course that American administrations medal in Israel's business. I 0:11:38.657 --> 0:11:42.537 think Trump, the Trump administration genuinely was the only administration 0:11:42.617 --> 0:11:45.297 that said, listen, you guys know what your interests are, 0:11:45.457 --> 0:11:47.737 so why don't you tell us what you think needs 0:11:47.777 --> 0:11:49.697 to be done and will and will be supportive. That 0:11:49.817 --> 0:11:55.097 was by far the anomaly. Certainly, the democratic administrations have 0:11:55.377 --> 0:12:00.577 have leaned even further, even stronger. And you know, especially 0:12:01.937 --> 0:12:05.337 a president like Joe Biden, who, at least in my understanding, 0:12:05.417 --> 0:12:09.017 is not a person that is familiar with the concept 0:12:09.097 --> 0:12:16.617 of principle. He's a he's a political animal, in in, in, in, 0:12:16.417 --> 0:12:23.057 in the in the very worst connotations of correctly, he so, 0:12:23.537 --> 0:12:25.977 you know, when when the world is sort of sympathetic 0:12:25.977 --> 0:12:28.137 with Israel, so he'll say the right thing. If he 0:12:28.177 --> 0:12:31.457 sees a political disadvantage in doing so, he'll turn in 0:12:31.817 --> 0:12:35.177 a heartbeat. You know. He doesn't have any ideals that 0:12:35.217 --> 0:12:37.217 he sticks to and that he'll stand by when they 0:12:37.217 --> 0:12:39.217 go when they going, but gets tough and then he 0:12:39.337 --> 0:12:42.777 sort of flips back. You know when when when when 0:12:42.817 --> 0:12:45.417 the wind when the wind changes again, and I think 0:12:45.457 --> 0:12:48.417 you know, sometimes you know, the end of the day, 0:12:49.577 --> 0:12:53.217 the the the the thing to understand about the relationship 0:12:53.297 --> 0:12:56.697 with Nyahu and the pressure that's being applied on Nahu 0:12:56.897 --> 0:12:59.137 that both bide And and Chuck Schuman others in the 0:12:59.137 --> 0:13:03.057 Democratic Party think they can play this clever game where 0:13:03.097 --> 0:13:07.377 their opposition us He's execute executing now that it feels 0:13:07.417 --> 0:13:10.177 are in its best interest for self defense. Can he 0:13:10.297 --> 0:13:13.097 positioned as an opposition to Nittanyahu and his government and 0:13:13.137 --> 0:13:15.097 his right wing government and some of the right wing 0:13:15.537 --> 0:13:18.737 partners in his government. But the truth is that the 0:13:18.777 --> 0:13:21.577 policies that the Israeli government is executing right now, our 0:13:21.617 --> 0:13:25.697 policies are supported by an overwhelming majority of the Israeli 0:13:26.057 --> 0:13:29.337 of the Israeli public, and it is a national unity 0:13:29.417 --> 0:13:35.177 government formed together with one of benjaminia Who's staunchest opponents, 0:13:35.617 --> 0:13:39.057 which is Benny Gantz. So this idea that it's all 0:13:39.097 --> 0:13:43.177 about knit Nyahu is nonsense. He is executing on what 0:13:43.217 --> 0:13:46.057 the Israeli people want and need and knows fundamental for 0:13:46.097 --> 0:13:50.977 their security. And you know, this business of of sort 0:13:50.977 --> 0:13:53.817 of positioning him is as crazy and out of lockstep 0:13:53.857 --> 0:13:56.537 with the interests of the Israeli people. That's just not 0:13:56.617 --> 0:13:58.457 in line with the reality, not even close. 0:13:58.897 --> 0:14:02.697 Just had to understand something that was in the headlines 0:14:02.777 --> 0:14:07.857 right before October seventh, and how everything changed in Israel 0:14:07.897 --> 0:14:11.537 and the Middle East over the last what's six seven months? 0:14:12.337 --> 0:14:15.857 The court issue with net Yahoo and the Israeli Supreme 0:14:15.857 --> 0:14:18.417 Court and the constitution is there. Can you give us 0:14:18.457 --> 0:14:20.697 a sixty second version of what was going on there, 0:14:20.857 --> 0:14:23.097 just because it's still Sometimes it gets talked about because 0:14:23.057 --> 0:14:26.017 the storyline now is net Yahoo is on the ropes, 0:14:26.377 --> 0:14:30.657 this court issue the constitution in Israel, and then October 0:14:30.657 --> 0:14:33.977 seventh happens and they unite behind him in almost Churchilean fashion. 0:14:34.017 --> 0:14:37.177 He steps up, you know what, well, what's the back. 0:14:37.377 --> 0:14:42.217 What was happening before? I would describe as democracy as usual. 0:14:43.177 --> 0:14:46.777 You've got a contentious issue in the country, namely the 0:14:46.817 --> 0:14:50.137 power that the Supreme Court has versus other branches of government. 0:14:50.537 --> 0:14:53.097 It didn't start with Netniao, it didn't start with this government. 0:14:53.137 --> 0:14:55.577 It's been an issue that's festering for ages and ages 0:14:55.617 --> 0:15:00.257 and ages. In short, the main bullet point is that 0:15:01.217 --> 0:15:03.377 the judge itself, you know, as opposed to be in 0:15:03.377 --> 0:15:07.737 this country, the administration selects new Supreme Court justices, but 0:15:07.857 --> 0:15:10.937 in Israel there is a panel that selects the new 0:15:10.937 --> 0:15:17.537 Supreme Court justices, and the current Supreme Court justices have 0:15:17.617 --> 0:15:20.857 the capacity to veto new Supreme Court justices. You know, 0:15:20.897 --> 0:15:22.777 there needs to there's a minimum threshold that needs to 0:15:22.817 --> 0:15:25.857 be met. So and they include three of the current 0:15:25.857 --> 0:15:29.377 Supreme Court justices. So imagine a scenario like this where 0:15:29.617 --> 0:15:33.337 the majority of the court is Republican or democratic, conservative 0:15:33.377 --> 0:15:36.737 or liberal, and then any new appointment needs to be 0:15:36.817 --> 0:15:40.577 approved by the majority. Right, So you're not going to have, 0:15:41.137 --> 0:15:43.977 you know, an independent court. It's just going to stay 0:15:43.977 --> 0:15:46.897 conservative or liberal forever. Right. So that's the scenario that 0:15:46.897 --> 0:15:48.657 they've been dealing with in Israel for a long time. 0:15:48.697 --> 0:15:52.777 It's basically a permanently liberal Supreme Court. And you know, 0:15:52.897 --> 0:15:56.777 that's a normal debate in democracy as to whether you know, 0:15:56.937 --> 0:15:59.297 it's too much power and other changes you're going you're 0:15:59.297 --> 0:16:01.097 going to make to the power that the Supreme Court has. 0:16:01.137 --> 0:16:03.777 I mean, there's an argument that you know, over here 0:16:03.817 --> 0:16:06.057 you have three branches. In Israel, you don't have three branches. 0:16:06.097 --> 0:16:08.777 The legislative and the executive are very much into twine. 0:16:08.817 --> 0:16:11.097 So maybe you need a more powerful Supreme Court. But 0:16:11.177 --> 0:16:14.337 this is part of the negotiation that's happening in democracy. 0:16:14.377 --> 0:16:16.457 I think the majority of people in the country support 0:16:16.577 --> 0:16:19.297 some changes and you know, the country was in the 0:16:19.297 --> 0:16:21.857 process of figuring out what those changes are. So you know, 0:16:21.897 --> 0:16:23.857 there were bills that were proposed, and then there was 0:16:23.897 --> 0:16:26.977 a lot of pushback, and ultimately that's how democracy works. 0:16:26.977 --> 0:16:29.337 If you're going to make laws that people don't agree with, 0:16:29.377 --> 0:16:31.457 you'll get voted out and the next people will will 0:16:31.497 --> 0:16:34.377 switch them back. So there was a lot of sort 0:16:34.417 --> 0:16:36.657 of jumping up and down and screaming and shouting. But 0:16:37.817 --> 0:16:40.297 I don't think it was it was anything unusual in 0:16:40.337 --> 0:16:43.057 the sense that, you know, we have these debates in 0:16:43.097 --> 0:16:45.977 this country all the time. As Winston Churchill famously said, 0:16:46.417 --> 0:16:49.017 you know, democracy is the worst form of government besides 0:16:49.057 --> 0:16:51.537 for all the others. It's a messy business, you know, 0:16:51.657 --> 0:16:54.257 And that's what we were seeing play out in Israel. 0:16:54.297 --> 0:16:58.017 It's a real democracy, representative democracy, and it's as messy 0:16:58.057 --> 0:17:01.097 as a good or as a good, you know, functioning 0:17:01.137 --> 0:17:02.097 democracy should be. 0:17:03.577 --> 0:17:06.257 I just got to say, we're speaking about messy democracies 0:17:06.297 --> 0:17:08.377 and elections. We're gonna have to take a look at 0:17:08.377 --> 0:17:10.977 the US situation here. And I want to ask if 0:17:11.017 --> 0:17:15.497 you think that the Jewish vote in America in this 0:17:15.577 --> 0:17:21.257 election cycle presidential and all the other contests could swing 0:17:21.377 --> 0:17:24.217 more toward Republicans than in the past. But first up, 0:17:24.897 --> 0:17:27.097 one thing we do on this podcast is cut through 0:17:27.097 --> 0:17:30.697 the noise, the nonsense, ulterior motives. 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What 0:18:54.857 --> 0:18:55.977 do you what do you make of this? 0:18:57.977 --> 0:19:00.617 I think there's a few points to understand in terms 0:19:00.657 --> 0:19:02.377 of the Jewish vote. I mean the first one is, 0:19:02.457 --> 0:19:07.937 like all populations, the Jewish population is not monolithic. You know, 0:19:07.937 --> 0:19:10.217 there are different segments to the community. It's the v 0:19:10.457 --> 0:19:13.457 is mostly more orthodox versus secular. I guess, in the 0:19:13.457 --> 0:19:16.657 same way as you have in you know, the wider electorate. 0:19:16.737 --> 0:19:19.457 You know, typically more religious people tend to vote more 0:19:19.497 --> 0:19:23.177 conservative and the more secular folks tend to vote more liberal. 0:19:23.297 --> 0:19:26.137 So the Jewish community is divided in a similar way, 0:19:26.537 --> 0:19:29.977 and you know demographically. What's interesting for people to understand 0:19:30.017 --> 0:19:32.217 is that these two segments of the Jewish community are 0:19:32.257 --> 0:19:35.057 headed in opposite directions. The liberal wing of the Jewish 0:19:35.097 --> 0:19:38.737 community is in decline, significantly in decline, and the more 0:19:38.817 --> 0:19:41.017 orthodox wing of the Jewish community is one of the 0:19:41.017 --> 0:19:45.177 fastest growing Jewish populations or fastest growing populations in the 0:19:45.257 --> 0:19:48.537 United States. The other thing to keep in mind is that, 0:19:48.977 --> 0:19:53.777 you know, voting shifts in terms of demographic populations typically 0:19:53.817 --> 0:19:56.777 take generations. You know you have, and you know, that's 0:19:56.777 --> 0:19:59.697 certainly the case of the Jewish community as an immigrant community. Initially, 0:19:59.697 --> 0:20:02.697 as an immigrant community, the Democratic Party was always seen 0:20:02.737 --> 0:20:05.657 as more friendly to immigrants. And I think that's kind 0:20:05.657 --> 0:20:08.817 of the assumption for Latinos and you know, other minority 0:20:08.857 --> 0:20:12.177 groups that the Democratic Party is more friendly. But you know, 0:20:12.497 --> 0:20:14.617 like with the Italians and other and Irish and other 0:20:14.657 --> 0:20:16.857 immigrant groups, as they become more entrenched and as they 0:20:16.897 --> 0:20:19.257 become more comfortable in the country and start to think 0:20:19.297 --> 0:20:22.817 about other things, like you know, it's not just about foodstamps, 0:20:22.857 --> 0:20:26.497 it's about private property, and wealth grows and their success grows, 0:20:26.577 --> 0:20:29.737 you know, that's when you see voting patterns start to evolve. 0:20:29.777 --> 0:20:33.057 So I think in that sense, when people think about 0:20:33.137 --> 0:20:36.377 the Jewish vote or other population segments and how they vote. 0:20:36.417 --> 0:20:37.977 You know, you want to think about it not from 0:20:38.017 --> 0:20:41.537 election to election, but from generation to generation in terms 0:20:41.577 --> 0:20:45.777 of how these patterns evolve. Having said that, I would 0:20:45.817 --> 0:20:49.737 say that I think there's a significant misread in the 0:20:50.497 --> 0:20:53.897 Democratic Party of where the Jewish population is, where the 0:20:53.977 --> 0:20:57.257 Jewish public is. You know, certainly the events of October 0:20:57.297 --> 0:21:00.857 seventh and there aftermath have left a lot of folks 0:21:00.857 --> 0:21:05.897 in the Jewish community leaving a feeling very unsettled. And 0:21:06.377 --> 0:21:09.537 you're seeing folks that typically would be on the more 0:21:09.537 --> 0:21:12.977 liberals expressing a lot of concern. In fact, I don't 0:21:12.977 --> 0:21:14.937 know if you saw this. It was kind of circulating 0:21:14.977 --> 0:21:18.217 on the web the other day on Twitter, but there's 0:21:18.217 --> 0:21:22.177 a rabbi called Amiel Hershoe's rabbi at a very famous 0:21:22.257 --> 0:21:24.697 liberal synagogue in New York, the Stephen Whisse Synagogue. He 0:21:24.777 --> 0:21:29.137 gave a lecture or a sermon on Saturday, you know, 0:21:29.177 --> 0:21:32.217 at the Shabbad service, and he says to the Democrats, 0:21:32.217 --> 0:21:35.657 he said, do not take American Jews for granted. Be careful. 0:21:35.697 --> 0:21:38.217 These are his words. The result of the upcoming elections 0:21:38.457 --> 0:21:42.137 do not only depend on Michigan, and there are quite 0:21:42.177 --> 0:21:45.657 a few swing states where the Jewish population is much 0:21:45.777 --> 0:21:48.337 larger than the margin of victory that Joe Biden had 0:21:48.417 --> 0:21:52.217 last time. And those include Pennsylvania, where the Jewish population 0:21:52.657 --> 0:21:55.697 outweighs the Muslim population by about four to one. That's 0:21:55.817 --> 0:21:59.657 nineteen electoral points. Michigan is only ten electoral points. Obviously, Florida, 0:21:59.657 --> 0:22:01.457 I don't know if you still consider it a swing state, 0:22:01.497 --> 0:22:05.097 but the Jewish vote there is very significant. Arizona, You've 0:22:05.097 --> 0:22:09.137 got about one hundred thousand Jews, Ohio about one hundred 0:22:09.177 --> 0:22:13.017 thousand Jews, orderly about one hundred thousand Jews, you know, 0:22:13.097 --> 0:22:16.217 so North Carolina, I don't think it's that many, but 0:22:16.257 --> 0:22:20.497 you know, it's a significant population. So you know, they 0:22:20.497 --> 0:22:22.737 can be a very significant factor in this election, and 0:22:22.777 --> 0:22:26.137 I think the Democrats are misreading it. What are misreading 0:22:26.257 --> 0:22:28.257 kind of where the Jewish community is at. But one 0:22:28.257 --> 0:22:30.577 other point that I think is worth making is the 0:22:30.657 --> 0:22:35.417 role of RFK might have on this point. The lowest 0:22:35.417 --> 0:22:39.617