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Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome to

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Speaker 2: another episode of Short and Sweet.

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Speaker 3: So Short and So Sweet. We're starting off talking about

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Speaker 3: trends for the summer.

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Speaker 4: Well is it yet?

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Speaker 3: Is it too early to be discussing this.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's summer yet. But this is this

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Speaker 4: is about like, hey, when you're this is this is

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Speaker 4: the wardrobe we need to be thinking of turning it over?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I like to stop for summer before it's

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Speaker 2: even summer.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I have to. I've learned my lesson.

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Speaker 5: I stave off that impulse because I like to have

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Speaker 5: enough money to actually shop in summer.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, but then I've here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, as soon as you shop in summer,

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Speaker 4: then and what happens is that you wait, you shop

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Speaker 4: in summer and then it's winter close.

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Speaker 2: It's fall close.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that. Or it's on sale. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: already on sale.

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Speaker 2: Oh and well the sun is good too.

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Speaker 3: Today's a beautiful day here, and it does feel kind

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Speaker 3: of warm.

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Speaker 2: Today is actually so crappy in Los Angeles. But I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking about yellow. So we did a little research. Well,

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Speaker 2: actually I went to Vogue. That's where I went.

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Speaker 3: You went to British Fogue because you started there.

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Speaker 2: I went to British Fogue.

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Speaker 4: I wonder, you know what, that's interesting because it is

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Speaker 4: British Fogue that I looked at. I wonder if the

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Speaker 4: trends don't translate here, or maybe you'll just look very chic.

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Speaker 2: Here in the states of your listening.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So British Vogue did a roundup of how we

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Speaker 5: can get into it and how we can get prepared,

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Speaker 5: and they honestly, I'm really just seeing colors as the

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Speaker 5: first time they said that understanding.

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Speaker 4: They said, like the they said that there are five

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Speaker 4: main colors per summer.

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Speaker 2: M hmm. So the first one is, yes, butter yellow.

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Speaker 3: I'm totally on board. I love butter yellow.

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Speaker 4: We have already declared butter yellow as the key color

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Speaker 4: for spring twenty twenty five and will continue well into August.

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Speaker 2: Positioned as okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to make fun, but well into August. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the end of summer.

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Speaker 2: August. So it's like I start to actually feel a

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Speaker 2: little fall in August.

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Speaker 5: What are you talking about it's hotter than the face

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Speaker 5: of the sun in Los Angeles in August.

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Speaker 2: But it's hot, it's super hot in October. Positioned as

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Speaker 2: a creamy neutral, the pale yellow rangers from a light

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Speaker 2: lure pack to more golden varieties.

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Speaker 5: Color number two is chocolate brown. I'm confused. Why am

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Speaker 5: I wearing chocolate brown in the summer that it doesn't

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Speaker 5: sound good to me.

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Speaker 4: I absolutely love chocolate brown in this summer in the summer, yes,

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love brown.

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Speaker 3: Like, what a chocolate brown pair of jorts?

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Speaker 2: I would do a brown pair of jorts.

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Speaker 4: I would do a brown jorts with a little cute

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Speaker 4: white tea and some gold jewelry.

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Speaker 2: Hello, hell, yeah, I would. Okay. Well, see, I had

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Speaker 2: my color palette done.

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Speaker 4: I had my color and my season has a bunch

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Speaker 4: of color. Okay, I'm a soft autumn, and so this

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Speaker 4: chocolate brown is in Jessica Capshaw, She's like laughing at

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Speaker 4: my color palette.

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Speaker 3: You guys, Oh yeah, you're a soft I'm a soft autumn.

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Speaker 3: A hard one.

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Speaker 1: Chocolate brown, No chocolate brown is in my color palate. Oh,

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Speaker 1: for God's sake, move on.

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Speaker 5: You read number three, powder pink I'm surprised by this

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Speaker 2: Didn't think that.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like for a long time, like we're

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Speaker 5: not seeing any pink. We're not gonna see pink for

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Speaker 5: it does say instead of Barbie hues or punchings, we

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Speaker 3: We actually know what my nails are. A muted pink.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I uh, when I was looking at

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Speaker 4: these pictures, the pink is very muted. To you, guys,

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Speaker 4: it's a very it's almost it's white.

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Speaker 3: You can't hear it talking at all. It's basically so white.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's white with like a little for the wisp. Okay,

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Speaker 2: no or four tangerine. I wore a tangerine suit to

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Speaker 2: like dumb Dummer like Harry and.

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Speaker 3: Lloyd Tad but a dollup dollop.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 3: We're like an appara spirits.

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Speaker 2: Well that's just says.

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Speaker 1: It says for those who like to stick to cocktail hues.

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Speaker 1: Soon a summer arrives, perhaps this zesty tangerine and clementine

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Speaker 1: resembling a rum punch or apple sprits will make it

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Speaker 1: into your beach bound suit case.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about a tangerine? I have never

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Speaker 4: seen you in a tangerine?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think I have.

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Speaker 2: Do you own anything in that color? I do like summer.

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Speaker 5: I do like I do like a tangerine or an

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Speaker 5: orange red pedicure.

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Speaker 2: I love a lip actually orange. I love an orange

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Speaker 2: red lip. You know who wouldn't like that, Matt.

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Speaker 5: I know they don't. We've talked about this. They don't

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Speaker 5: like that, and we don't care. We don't care. We

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Speaker 5: don't well, if we like it, we don't care. If

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Speaker 5: we don't care and they don't care, then or we

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Speaker 5: don't care and they care.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, we still don't care. I still

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Speaker 3: don't care, and then we've got in the finale position.

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Speaker 2: Icy blue, m you do have a lot of icy blue.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of icy blue. I love an

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Speaker 5: I think as soon as you as soon as it's

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Speaker 5: established that you have blue eyes, people just force you

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Speaker 5: into all kinds of blue. I remember, I feel that

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Speaker 5: I've spoken about this before, but I remember going in

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Speaker 5: be when we were not wearing scrubs, although my scrubs

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Speaker 5: my entire you know, put the rolling rocks out out

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Speaker 5: it would just be like I ended up, we ended

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Speaker 5: up calling it Arizona blue because it was just like

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Speaker 5: when it was Arizona blue. It wasn't icy though it

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Speaker 4: You know what's funny that makes me think about my

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Speaker 4: rack for Joe Wilson.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like I'm talking about my boobs.

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Speaker 3: I'm not just sounding.

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Speaker 2: Joe Wilson's rack. It's a lot of jewel tones, a

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Speaker 2: lot of like purple. Actually.

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Speaker 1: Recently, yeah, we also looked up that the nail color

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Speaker 1: of summer twenty twenty five, according to Cosmopolitan, and there's

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Speaker 1: some sort of there's a through line here.

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Speaker 2: This is you as Cosmopolitan and they said butter yellow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, butter yellow. It's just yeah, the pasteal version of

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Speaker 3: a very sunny shade.

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Speaker 5: Would you if you if I was taking you, if

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Speaker 5: to go get her nails done, would.

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Speaker 3: You get short butter yellow nails? Would you get butter

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Speaker 3: yellow French tips like a French man of curi? Would

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Speaker 4: I think that if I'm going a color like that

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Speaker 4: for me, I gotta do like a short, kind of

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Speaker 4: like squarish. But my go to is I love like

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Speaker 4: a like a long.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if I could do a Cynthia Revo freakin'.

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Speaker 5: Really, oh my god, that feels heavy, there's a lot

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Speaker 5: because there's jewel there's jewelry on it too.

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Speaker 3: I know, yeah, okay, I mean wouldn't I don't.

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Speaker 1: I not know.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to do anything.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't do it because I can't, Like there's just

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm out outside picking up dog poops with

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Speaker 4: those like it's not you can't do it, like you

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Speaker 4: can't definitely get to do that.

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Speaker 2: But I do like the long the almond. I like

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Speaker 2: a long almond sh Yeah, yeah, I do too. I

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Speaker 2: do too, And then maybe I would do it tip.

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Speaker 4: Then what about you, how would you if we're going

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Speaker 4: in for a butter yellow situation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 5: I was looking at the NSPO picks and I was

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Speaker 5: thinking French manicure as well.

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Speaker 3: But then I know I can always I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes when I do a French manicure

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Speaker 5: that's not just the good old fashioned white, it makes

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Speaker 2: Oh see, I always get an extension. Oh okay, bring

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the extenders. The extenders in the summer is actually

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Speaker 4: That's so gross, so gross. I agree, this is a

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Speaker 2: A snack under these nails?

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you?

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Speaker 4: It's an era, a summer era that I really miss

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Speaker 4: and I wouldn't do it again because it's just I

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Speaker 4: look back and I, you know, have mixed feelings about it.

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Speaker 4: But at the time, it was like it was the

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Speaker 4: summer that Sienna Miller like just popped right, like she

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Speaker 4: came out in Alfie and she was in like the

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Speaker 4: little short summer dresses with like the gladiator belt on

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Speaker 4: mean the fur, remember the faux fur a little like

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Speaker 4: cardigan situation, I don't even want and then the gladiator boots.

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Speaker 4: That felt like a really fun summer because we don't

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Speaker 4: always sometimes we keep things basic and everyone was just like,

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Speaker 4: fuck it, we're wearing the fur in July.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but she also looked like she was going from

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Speaker 5: music festival to music festival.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we all did. But I was just going

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Speaker 3: Grocery store with her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have like a clueless you were in

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was it was actually the op

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Speaker 4: It wasn't kind of like it was not uncool to

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Speaker 4: Like at that time, like the me high socks, like

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Speaker 3: I feel like my cool summer was.

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Speaker 5: It's I've never had a summer where I didn't, and

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Speaker 5: my daughters that are sadly following in my footsteps were

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Speaker 3: The shorter, the better.

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Speaker 5: Oh, just entire buttcheet hanging out. Yeah, not even a

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Speaker 5: quarter one, the entire thing. I love you in a

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Speaker 5: short skirt though, I like a short skirt. I hope

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Speaker 5: that like we'll be, you know, eighty years old.

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Speaker 2: In short skirts in short skirts?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Did you see that Demi Moore was the was it

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Speaker 5: People People Magazine's most Beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Person's on the cover?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well she is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's gorgeous and she's really I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, she's she's such she's.

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Speaker 3: She really is.

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Speaker 5: I love that she's ready to talk about it all.

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Speaker 5: You know, like the two things can be true. You

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Speaker 5: can be getting older and be very grateful for your

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Speaker 5: years at the same time and you're like, damn you,

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Speaker 5: why is not face fallen?

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Speaker 4: I want to know, because Sanna Miller was my little

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Speaker 4: my summer if who is and she probably still is

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Speaker 4: like fashion maybe the main fashion icon for me personally.

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Speaker 2: So of course she is? Who is yours?

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm on it.

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Speaker 5: I was kind of like he he he ha ha

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Speaker 5: maybe we haven't talked about this her. I had pictures

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Speaker 5: in my closet like in my twenties, not even like

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Speaker 5: in my teens.

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Speaker 3: I would take out pictures of.

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Speaker 5: Sanna Miller put them on my closet with double stick

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Speaker 5: tape behind them because it would be like outfit in

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Speaker 5: spo stop.

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Speaker 3: Yes, with her cute freckles and all of it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, everything, Sienna Miller everything once she started becoming the

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Speaker 5: fashion stable that she still is. Yeah, my guess is

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Speaker 5: that everybody just sent her everything right because she just But.

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Speaker 3: That was the thing. It is like she was so cool.

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Speaker 3: She'd wear the new stuff, but she'd put it in

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Speaker 3: with her own like spin on it or her own look.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: And that was the problem because someone like Senna Miller

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Speaker 4: genuinely looks good with any haircut, any anything, anything on.

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Speaker 2: She cut her hair at one point, which is what

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Speaker 3: She cut her hair one.

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Speaker 4: Point up to her chin, and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do that. And I looked nothing like Sienna Miller,

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Speaker 4: and I really thought that I could rock that, and

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Speaker 4: I you know, I had a couple of days where

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Speaker 2: It just right, maybe the hood. But I was like,

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Speaker 2: you can't, You're not Sienna. I whis show was anyway?

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Speaker 3: AnyWho. I wonder if she'll be wearing better yellow nails

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Speaker 3: this summer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she might be. Listen, I told you, well, I

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Speaker 2: looked up the Vogue in England. That's what they're saying.

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Speaker 5: I had an in person sighting. I was walking around

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Speaker 5: the UH. I was with Poppy and we'd walked across

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Speaker 5: and I had actually just been saying to a friend.

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Speaker 3: Sorry everyone.

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Speaker 5: I was like, the everyst side isn't very cool, right,

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Speaker 5: Like it's like more like, you know, it's more residential.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't like the cool factor.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess the Gossip Girls situation was always yeah, freatside,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know. I was like, it's more residential.

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Speaker 5: And then I had no sooner said it than a

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Speaker 5: day later, coming around the corner and walk smack dab

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Speaker 5: into georgeous Sienna Miller and her super cute boyfriend like

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Speaker 5: pushing their pram down Madison Avenue, just enjoying the day.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I guess I'm We were instantly wrong.

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Speaker 3: I'm instantly wrong, instantly wrong. Yeah, because if she's there,

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Speaker 3: it's cool.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's lots some more pictures of the room. Put

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Speaker 3: a butter wall, gladly butter yellow. All right, well, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna investigate this. Someone send you some hughes, and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna maybe get maybe. I'll be here same time next

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Speaker 3: week with some butter yellow nails.

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Speaker 2: Do it?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: I love it? Yeah, let's call it the end of

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Speaker 2: the episode.