WEBVTT - The Mini Van 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:06.040 Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer I can get 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.399 fly all my life, all my life. All right, we're 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.920 back another episode of I'm the host. Nadj wellis my right, 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.880 young Nacho TI? How you feeling, my boy? I'm good Man. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.200 Got some special people in the building, special people. Know 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.240 what I'm saying. To my immediate left, We're gonna introduce 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.480 him last as we should do our guests. My father left. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.960 You know what I'm saying, Resident Chef Bishop Grant Leaf, 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.920 my boy be here. How you feeling cooler? National, Let's 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:31.639 get a crack all right, man, I got a special 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:32.839 guest him. I let you know what I'm saying. I'm 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.680 gonna go ahead, Latigue, introduce you. You You know what I'm saying. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.080 They got a little relationship. They go back a little 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.800 bit classic. This is my rookie man, my days Indiana, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.280 I mean, carved out a beautiful career in the NBA. Man, 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.519 Iowa State legend. M the coolest dudes I know in 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.040 the NBA. Man, I'm glad to have him on the show. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.800 George Niang, appreciate you'all for having me on. Man, it's 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.920 a blessing. I appreciate you Slide, It's a blessing. He 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:00.720 got the pr statements. If we gonna get out of 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.880 the real quick, don't you work. But if we're gett 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.840 into the episode, y'all see this on you table, it's 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.480 real beer. You know what I'm saying. You got some 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.800 product you want to promote, get out there. We got 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.119 this one erful laptop. You know what I'm saying. Be him. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:12.960 We tried to get him too, the sketches deal last week. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.440 He wasn't fucking with us. You got that ship on 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.039 the day. He's just regular night for you nigs about 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.679 the door hashtag. It's okay he flecks on the serad. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.480 We appreciate it. Nonetheless, I know what I'm saying, Sketchers, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.760 Look tea, you might go four million dollars now you 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.960 ain't doing four meal. Yeah anything, George, you know what 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.520 I'm saying. Wills around upon that a little bit later. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.919 You know I'm saying, you still in the league, my boy. Hey, 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.560 let's get the show, get to start talking. I like 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.640 for hearing this vibe. Don't they got the simple water. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.880 We had a good episode that. You know what I'm saying, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.360 You're in the league still, you know, obviously know what 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.560 I'm saying, you playing shoes deals that night. How much 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.600 Sketchers gotta give you to get the deals to the vibe? Like, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.840 what's what's the jumping at You're hopping into the sketches 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.400 for a meal? Take? Absolutely, yeah, but that's damn that's 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.040 easy to be here. He was being difficult, you know, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.920 he trying to give up his his footwear. No, I 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.919 don't even care about a million dollars. We can talk. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.240 I just want to be able to world. I don't 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.720 want to wear to the club and when I'm hanging out, bro, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.160 I just don't want to on a five twenty podcast. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:21.519 Give me the sketcher whatever shape up the KIMK was having. Yeah, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.680 I'm gonna leave him on life like I got the dunks. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.760 We can rock out, but you gotta wear him the club. Yeah, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.520 when I'm going out and hanging out with my friends, 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.280 but I'm not wearing it, bro. So so we're gonna 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.640 see what's some comments come. Were gonna see how them 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.120 effects change. Before the episode, I always got to start 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.440 the episode with a Friday Ask question. Obviously, you know 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.560 what I'm saying. You had a nice journey in the NBA. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.480 He's still going on right now. But I gotta ask 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.600 you what's been so far without giving too much details. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.840 You don't want to snitching nobody. What would you say 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.320 your most problematic locker room was so far and you're 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.679 playing days. You can go from high school to college 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:59.040 to NBA. Look they laugh already. Oh my god, welcome 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:06.600 to five twenty. Yeah, yeah, welcome my most problematic locker room, Dan, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:18.640 I would have to say with with with yes, yeah, man, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:23.800 we little go a little We had a funny, a 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.240 funny group of guys in that locker room. You know, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.399 I think it was it was PEG's last year, right, yeah, yeah, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.480 So it was like, you know, mixed between you know, 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.960 I think there was riff raff for him, you know, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.080 not wanting to be there. This's that in the third 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.800 or I don't know what what he was thinking. I 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.080 was a rookie. I really didn't know anything. But we'd 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.880 go on like seven game win streaks and eight game 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.160 loosen streaks. I was confused, man, So uh as my 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.720 first year in the league, you know, we were we 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.160 were a troublesome group. That was a hell of a 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.000 year for everybody. It will get into that a little 0:03:58.040 --> 0:03:59.600 bit later. He don't like the paces at all. He 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.000 has no respect. I am unfortunately doing pictures fan till 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.480 I die. But terres Haliburt and the Savior the guy 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.320 shout out to him out the gate, shout out to 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.120 the young being Mather too. We were on the way 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:15.160 like analogy will wish us to the pictures organization. That's 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.320 like you got for it. It's a pr S today. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:18.960 That's school. I can get out of pocket. We can 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.680 get it there. So first started off before we can 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.599 get to that. You know what I'm saying. Obviously we 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.120 know how you would. You know, I'm saying, it's your 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.520 background of basketball. Talk about your high school. That's man. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.840 You had a pretty goddamn good and you team. You 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.039 know what I'm saying, How did that come about? We 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.040 all went to high school together as me Netherlands Nowell, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:42.520 Wayne Selden, Jake Layman Man. When you say high school together, 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.400 like y'all went to high school together, y'all like it 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:46.920 was like a phone called and we're going to high 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.840 school together. No, it was. It was a boarding school, 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.159 so you know we were allowed to do that. You 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:52.720 know a lot of people said they played high school 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.680 together and they lived on the street. That definitely was 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.560 not the case. But you know, for for high school 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.480 au we we had a pretty solid team. So when 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.359 you was playing in the summer, obviously I had a whip. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.920 And was it a little bit easier for you to 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.920 play high school basketball playing with the town the team 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.400 like that? Like you said, you had a Denver prep 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.240 school y'all playing a crazy schedule as well. How did 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.920 that prepare you to like get into like cogge decisions 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.000 because a lot of times, like Jeffer probably speaking on this, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:18.600 I mean he went crazy at you too, but he 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.040 played in the high school where he lived down the 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.839 street front, how do you think it would have been 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.440 different for you probably going up if you went to 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.120 a prep school situation, you think he would have got 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.400 exposure differently? Or now, I wouldn't have made no prep school. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:32.120 I couldn't do that, you can na. I'm a I'm 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.880 a west side baby. I can't do that outside baby, Yeah, 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.120 I'm outside, yall know me? I was outside. I went 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.400 to every party, I went to everything, boarding school that 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:48.479 ain't met no uniforms, no way you can. I wore 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.120 white T shirts and rocket worse every day. Yeah, like, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.640 come on, you had to be real disciplined for that though. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.080 I mean, I'm sure it made you a better college student. Yeah, 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.400 I mean I guess when you don't know, I wouldn't 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.120 say you don't know no different like you just you know. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.480 So for the most part, I mean I was an 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.240 hour away from home, and uh, I mean up there, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.040 there was no I was like up in the middle 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.480 of nowhere. There was no thought of like, I couldn't 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.400 go act up. There was nothing to act up and do. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.920 It was gonna do run out in the wilderness. But uh, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.560 because you're from the Northeast area, yeah, I mean it's 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.320 not for everybody, but I'll tell you this, it does 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.240 keep a lot of you know, you know how how 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.160 to find a way to avoid trouble. There's some people 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.960 that just walk outside and trouble finds them. So for 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.680 kids like that, I think it's a it's a good 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.200 idea because it'll probably save a lot of kids from 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.760 who get in trouble in high school and can't pursue 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.719 their dreams. Would you had a twenty eleven or twenty 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.640 ten class, No, I was twenty twelve. I was originally 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.920 twenty eleven, So in the in the Northeast. It's popular 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:57.400 to like reclassify. I feel like I thought we were 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:04.279 like the first ones. Yeah, so I was, so I 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.359 was young for my grade, so twenty I was originally 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.920 class to twenty eleven and I did two sophomore years. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.080 So it hurt me in the long run when I'm 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:13.760 entering the draft and they're like, oh, he about to 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.320 be twenty three, and I was like, did y'all win 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.360 Peach Jam? Yeah? Yeah, how was it? I had a 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.200 whip that was Peach Jam? Was that was the best turn? 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.960 That's the best tournament out Yeah? Yeah, and then you 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.520 see it now it gets all that national that's much 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.960 actually televised. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, Nike 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.720 did a really good job with the E y b L. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.120 It was like the first year of week first joined. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.840 But Peach Jam was elite. Who was the toughest matchup 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.800 out there that you can remember? Who was like, damn 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.080 he is nice. I gotta work on my game. I 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.480 gotta get matchup. I don't. I mean, I just remember 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.440 having to play the Saint Louis Eagles when they had 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:59.280 Bradley Beal, Ben McLamore. That was that was crazy. You 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.680 could do because I was like a post guy and 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.200 them dudes were just dancing around the three point line. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:11.720 So they were yeah, yeah, oh he did he play for? Yeah? 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.720 They had him Aj Hammond's Uh who else did they 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:23.680 have had a couple San Thomas? Yeah was nice? They 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.200 was they was cold? Then who was it? Uh? Team 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:33.600 Takeover had like b j Anya, Jeremy Grant, James Robinson. Damn. Yeah, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:40.320 so they every game like eybl was was for real. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.400 That definitely helped me, you know, just playing against like 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.480 I went to high school in Urlans, also playing against 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.559 him kind of helped me play against like shot blockers 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.520 in college. Yeah, I could score not at ease, But 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.079 how did you get to Yeah, damn, that's that's actually 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.760 a crazy story. So I didn't have any high major offers, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.600 I think going into like my junior year and I 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.280 played in the tournament and uh, Fred Hoiberg ended up 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.440 calling me because this prep school we went on like 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.319 a ski trip. So he called me in the middle 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.439 of like me going down the hill tubin or something, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.439 and I called him back and he wanted me to 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.600 take an unofficial visit. But people don't realize now unofficial visits. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.120 I couldn't be paid for it, so like my mom 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.640 had to like pay for me to go out there. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.560 I wasna. I was originally gonna visit just the University 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.880 of Iowa, but then I decided to do both because 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.080 they were both recruiting me. So we get out to 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.920 Des Moines, and Des Moines is a forty five minute 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.920 drive to Aimes, where Iowa State is, and my mom 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.200 forgot a credit card. So when we go to rent 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.560 a car, they was like, sorry, like, no, can't do 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.240 this is like twelve years ago, and so we had 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:58.640 to take a cab two Aimes, Iowa. Then my mom 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.040 was like, I don't want them to know that I 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.040 forgot my credit cards. So like I'm running across like 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.440 this bean field to like get to the practice facility 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:07.959 because they're not allowed to pick you up when you 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.040 off campus and stuff like that. And eventually we had 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.200 to take like a megabus which is two hours to 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.880 get to the University of Iowa. And then and then 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.559 finally at the mL was like, I'm gonna call a 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.800 car service so we can just get to the airport. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.000 And then this is in the middle of nowhere, So 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.120 this dude was like, you want the Lincoln or the Cadillac. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.679 And my mom was like, just whatever, the Lincoln. This 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.520 dude turns out to be like a hoarder. So like 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.360 he just had like trash like in the car, so 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.880 like he was driving like a tuna fish can and 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.000 like slide across. It was a crazy I was like, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.800 there ain't no way God wants me to go to Iowa. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.880 The next thing you know, I'm at Iowa State And 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.960 it was because Fred Hoiberg. I mean he was just 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.360 a honest dude. Told me he was gonna let me 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.960 have the ball in my hands, and it was that's 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.000 what it was. From there. That's crass. You might have 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.679 been in Iowa if they had Uber back then to 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.360 lift your college have been totally different. Shouts a home 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:11.240 boy driving the tune of whip. That's nasty detail. But 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.280 like wow, I would though like those two schools, like 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.680 you didn't like with Bruit Nah, Like bc BC was 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.360 like I remember Wayne Selden got an offer from them, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.440 and he was like if they offer you, like, I'll 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.320 go there with you. And Steve Donohue, I mean he's 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.160 the coach at Penn. So we've talked because I'm in 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.600 Philadelphia now, but like nobody else was like at that point, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.320 like that was the first time made school. They were like, ah, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.679 what position does he play? Like he's not a three, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.320 he's not big enough to play a four. He don't 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.760 dunk on nobody. Yeah, So it was like Providence came 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.520 in late with like Ed Cooley, but I had already committed. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.880 Billy Donovan was late. But you know, if I went 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:54.280 to Florida that I've been all bad, me different. Yeah, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.040 and then like in the midst of like George Mason 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.000 was another school, but Larnaga took the Miami job, and 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.480 like I said, if I could to Florida, nah, Miami. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.760 But I didn't really have a position. I didn't really 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.440 like my highlights were nasty, like people like they do 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.640 highlights like me. I like Nike Peach and people like 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.079 I didn't just waste three minutes of my life watching 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:18.760 jump hucks and it's crazy. You do got a nasty game, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.880 Like it's effective. Yeah it happened, the ball, the ball 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.640 goes in the hoop. Yeah, it's nasty, but effect. I 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.320 used to say that we was in practice with the Pikes, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.720 which I block his game so ugly, but he's so 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.520 nice though, Like he's the cud. Yeah, what's your goal 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:39.560 to move though? What you fuck him up with? Shoot? Yeah, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.600 talking a little bit. I mean I've always had that. Yeah, Jeff, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:48.240 you know he got the you know whatever. That looks sweet. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.280 And then he run you know, he run back. Don't 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.400 have no emotions, just like yeah, you know what I mean. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:13:00.320 He got a chap stick in his socks. I can't 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:06.199 chat to Charles Rockley right with your belly button Charles 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.680 Rockets putting. He put vastling his belly buttons chap and 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.240 I was like, hey, that's the nash sh he's out. Yeah, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.080 that's sick, Chatti. Get the socks though. Nah. But I 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.280 first knowed you when you was at Iowa State. I 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.760 watched all of basketball. I watched college basketball like a 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.640 fan back then, and you were killing but you had 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.240 a rare game like you were doing dribble handoffs, fake 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.400 dribble handoffs, running point, shooting threes. And I'm like, man, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.559 what I couldn't figure you out. I'm like, how is 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.560 he killings? Moving in slow motion? Yeah? I was like 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.400 a little boris d out. Yeah, you know where It's like, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.240 I think the college game is so traditional where it 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.360 was like play through the big, like you know, when 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.200 you first got to the NBA, played through the big. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.040 You know, there was no real like movement where Fred 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.360 Hoiberg we played five out. You know, I would make 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.520 I would play center just because I was big enough 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.679 to you know, guard a center back back then and 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.960 then drag them away from the hoop. And they couldn't 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.040 guard me that far away from the hoop. I was 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.120 able to just change direction and dribble, fake handoffs and 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.360 then I could shoot three. So that's uh, that made 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.840 me effective there. But little did I realize when I 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.440 got to the NBA, there was like, uh, cut all 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:25.160 that ship up, he said. I first, NBA will put 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.800 you in a box, like they want you to do 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.840 one thing. You're gonna do that one thing. So I 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.200 got a question for y'all regarding that. How you think 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.560 is a better situation to go forward with kids? Like 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.080 now it's in prep because like you said, you can 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.640 go to college and do whatever the fuck you want too, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.480 as long as you found whatever coach you got going. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:40.960 But you can get to the league and they can 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.320 kind of like shift your game. Is it more beneficial 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.160 to be like, all right, fun college. I might as 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:46.680 well go to a G league or be in a 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.200 structured place to where they gonna teach me how to 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.000 play at this level. Or do you want to go 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.760 to college and learn how do you play your own 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.280 game and then just fit in once you get to 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.600 the next situation. Man, that's tough because there's some people 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.600 that you know, they've before they've even gotten to college, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.160 they've grown to college like so that they need to 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.120 go to like they're they're too talented, they're too big 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.600 of a name, they need to go to the legal league. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.640 But then there's some guys that think they're too big 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.880 for college that really need to go beat like disciplined 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.560 and learn how to play and you know, learn how 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.160 to grind and actually work before they actually get to league. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.160 So it's like a person by person basis on that one. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.360 But I do like what the G league ignite thing does, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.000 but it also can't hurt guys that think they're better 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.080 than they are. And you get caught taking five hundred 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.240 grand to come out and that's the most money you 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.640 ever see and you don't see that that you show 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.880 what you can't do, and they're like, why would I 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.960 waste time? I'm playing this kid that's real. Like you said, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.400 you you gotta sell yourself one way or another. I 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.080 know it's a little bit later. Now we ain't gonna 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.360 talk about the past. But you know what I'm saying, 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.600 nil deal how you feel you would have eight? You 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.000 know what I'm saying. I especially what you be. You 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.760 know what I'm saying, the ten year player. You know 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:02.080 what college basketball loves anybody, classmate, Man, I was all 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.640 those you know, four years in the tournament. The farmer 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.640 money out there I would have had, I would have 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.520 had a good experience out there. But now that I 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.480 think about it, if I had, because I remember when 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.040 I got out of college, I did like a signing 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.960 for like ten grand and I thought I was rich. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.320 I was like, you couldn't tell me. I was driving 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.320 up to North American Minnesota buying true religion, like I 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.600 thought the time period I thought I was living. Yeah, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.880 that ain't cool to wear that, not the truth? Where 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.960 would you want? Man? Yeah, you don't do that, the 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:37.520 true religion. Give me a period. When you talked about 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.400 give me a period, trying to give me the true 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.600 religion fit without the uh the nigga that's built like 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.880 me on the front of the shirt. Just give me 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.400 the regular true religion fit. Just now. You don't want 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.760 the boot on your ship, give me a little coastal 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:57.000 symbol on that bitch. Ain't no little true religious opperside 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.480 of T shirts And like this bit it looked like 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:04.760 the Lucky Are Cereal box, the gray one. I wore 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.680 it in the summer. That was my biggest mistake because 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.600 you know, it gets hot. It takes me like raise 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:16.160 your hand. It wasn't the club going crazy. Was so embarrassed, dude. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.000 I was like, from now on, just black teath in 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.640 the summer. But how was it? Thought? I though? Did 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.160 you have fun? Yeah? I mean so that was kind 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.600 of really like where I enjoyed, like the outside of basketball, right, 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.000 but it wasn't too crazy where like it got out 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.159 of hand, like I could still manage to get controlled. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.879 But like people out in the Midwest, they just know 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.840 how to drink, man, nothing else to it. There's like 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.119 people that drinking and there's people from the Midwest. They 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.280 just they just we do a little different. Yeah, it's 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.639 like people like I drink. Where are you from out 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.400 the West coast? Nah? You know, k how much love 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.600 you get? I mean, it's still to this day. I 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.520 do a charity golf outing out there, I do a 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.800 basketball camp. I don't do it anything else anywhere else 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.959 because that was like the craziest amount of love that Like, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.440 that's true. It was wild, and that's crazy. We sitting 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.400 here with two people who could have went to BC. Yeah, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.800 that's crazy. That would have been elected you and had 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.960 the city going crazy. I was I thought about going there. 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.440 What it targe you the wake visit or just because 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.320 they had another guard coming in. Honestly, my mama had 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.640 a dream, That's really what it was. Damn. She said, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.920 you gotta go to Wake forest Ship. I had a dream. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.560 It's less it was over and then let's talk about 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.720 that's crazy. So you know what I'm saying, you do 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.720 your thing. Iway stay Now it's time to go to 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.960 the NBA. How was it like the workout process? You 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.800 know what I'm saying, Because you were second round pick, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.320 so I imagine you probably had to do a lot 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.200 more shit than like you know, most people have to 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.159 who going on a couple of top slots. Was it 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:50.680 more favorable for you or was it like more of 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.280 a stressful time? Like damn, Like I gotta go get 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.639 this ship cracking, Like yeah, I mean to be honest 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.960 with you, you know, my agent had a good plan 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.840 of like what teams he knew, like actually would value 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.040 like what I was, what I brought. And I remember 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.719 my last workout was Indiana, and I just remember him 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.199 he all the other workouts, whether it was like the Clippers, 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.600 I forget who else I worked out for, but he 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.480 was like that one like you need, like that's the 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.639 one you need to shill. And I'm like, what are 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.640 you talking about, Like they're about they're trying to trade. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.159 He's like they might trade that first round pick, but 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.199 they have a second round pick. Da da da. So 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.040 I think I was in there with like Yogi Pharaoh, 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.760 Check Diallo, maybe even Bryce Johnson. I can't remember, but 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.399 I ended up playing really well in that workout and 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.840 Kevin Pritchard I remember, yeah it came and had a 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.840 conversation with me after and I was like, oh damn, 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.240 that went better than all the other workouts. Then you 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.600 get to draft night and I was the best worst 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.600 night in my life. It was fifty picks before you 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.000 That was like four hours of sitting there just waiting. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.040 It felt like forever and then you know that's when 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.280 you can. I mean, that whole trade happened. He was 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.840 coming in then, so Jeff really kind of stole like 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.960 the limelight because it was like the Indiana kids coming 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:12.320 back like yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah, we ain't gonna 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.240