Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer I can get
Speaker 1: fly all my life, all my life. All right, we're
Speaker 1: back another episode of I'm the host. Nadj wellis my right,
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. To my immediate left, We're gonna introduce
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Speaker 1: They got a little relationship. They go back a little
Speaker 1: bit classic. This is my rookie man, my days Indiana,
Speaker 1: I mean, carved out a beautiful career in the NBA. Man,
Speaker 1: Iowa State legend. M the coolest dudes I know in
Speaker 1: the NBA. Man, I'm glad to have him on the show.
Speaker 1: George Niang, appreciate you'all for having me on. Man, it's
Speaker 1: a blessing. I appreciate you Slide, It's a blessing. He
Speaker 1: got the pr statements. If we gonna get out of
Speaker 1: the real quick, don't you work. But if we're gett
Speaker 1: into the episode, y'all see this on you table, it's
Speaker 1: real beer. You know what I'm saying. You got some
Speaker 1: product you want to promote, get out there. We got
Speaker 1: this one erful laptop. You know what I'm saying. Be him.
Speaker 1: We tried to get him too, the sketches deal last week.
Speaker 1: He wasn't fucking with us. You got that ship on
Speaker 1: the day. He's just regular night for you nigs about
Speaker 1: the door hashtag. It's okay he flecks on the serad.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Nonetheless, I know what I'm saying, Sketchers,
Speaker 1: Look tea, you might go four million dollars now you
Speaker 1: ain't doing four meal. Yeah anything, George, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Wills around upon that a little bit later.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, you still in the league, my boy. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's get the show, get to start talking. I like
Speaker 1: for hearing this vibe. Don't they got the simple water.
Speaker 1: We had a good episode that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're in the league still, you know, obviously know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you playing shoes deals that night. How much
Speaker 1: Sketchers gotta give you to get the deals to the vibe? Like,
Speaker 1: what's what's the jumping at You're hopping into the sketches
Speaker 1: for a meal? Take? Absolutely, yeah, but that's damn that's
Speaker 1: easy to be here. He was being difficult, you know,
Speaker 1: he trying to give up his his footwear. No, I
Speaker 1: don't even care about a million dollars. We can talk.
Speaker 1: I just want to be able to world. I don't
Speaker 1: want to wear to the club and when I'm hanging out, bro,
Speaker 1: I just don't want to on a five twenty podcast.
Speaker 1: Give me the sketcher whatever shape up the KIMK was having. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave him on life like I got the dunks.
Speaker 1: We can rock out, but you gotta wear him the club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I'm going out and hanging out with my friends,
Speaker 1: but I'm not wearing it, bro. So so we're gonna
Speaker 1: see what's some comments come. Were gonna see how them
Speaker 1: effects change. Before the episode, I always got to start
Speaker 1: the episode with a Friday Ask question. Obviously, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You had a nice journey in the NBA.
Speaker 1: He's still going on right now. But I gotta ask
Speaker 1: you what's been so far without giving too much details.
Speaker 1: You don't want to snitching nobody. What would you say
Speaker 1: your most problematic locker room was so far and you're
Speaker 1: playing days. You can go from high school to college
Speaker 1: to NBA. Look they laugh already. Oh my god, welcome
Speaker 1: to five twenty. Yeah, yeah, welcome my most problematic locker room, Dan,
Speaker 1: I would have to say with with with yes, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we little go a little We had a funny, a
Speaker 1: funny group of guys in that locker room. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it was it was PEG's last year, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, mixed between you know,
Speaker 1: I think there was riff raff for him, you know,
Speaker 1: not wanting to be there. This's that in the third
Speaker 1: or I don't know what what he was thinking. I
Speaker 1: was a rookie. I really didn't know anything. But we'd
Speaker 1: go on like seven game win streaks and eight game
Speaker 1: loosen streaks. I was confused, man, So uh as my
Speaker 1: first year in the league, you know, we were we
Speaker 1: were a troublesome group. That was a hell of a
Speaker 1: year for everybody. It will get into that a little
Speaker 1: bit later. He don't like the paces at all. He
Speaker 1: has no respect. I am unfortunately doing pictures fan till
Speaker 1: I die. But terres Haliburt and the Savior the guy
Speaker 1: shout out to him out the gate, shout out to
Speaker 1: the young being Mather too. We were on the way
Speaker 1: like analogy will wish us to the pictures organization. That's
Speaker 1: like you got for it. It's a pr S today.
Speaker 1: That's school. I can get out of pocket. We can
Speaker 1: get it there. So first started off before we can
Speaker 1: get to that. You know what I'm saying. Obviously we
Speaker 1: know how you would. You know, I'm saying, it's your
Speaker 1: background of basketball. Talk about your high school. That's man.
Speaker 1: You had a pretty goddamn good and you team. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, How did that come about? We
Speaker 1: all went to high school together as me Netherlands Nowell,
Speaker 1: Wayne Selden, Jake Layman Man. When you say high school together,
Speaker 1: like y'all went to high school together, y'all like it
Speaker 1: was like a phone called and we're going to high
Speaker 1: school together. No, it was. It was a boarding school,
Speaker 1: so you know we were allowed to do that. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people said they played high school
Speaker 1: together and they lived on the street. That definitely was
Speaker 1: not the case. But you know, for for high school
Speaker 1: au we we had a pretty solid team. So when
Speaker 1: you was playing in the summer, obviously I had a whip.
Speaker 1: And was it a little bit easier for you to
Speaker 1: play high school basketball playing with the town the team
Speaker 1: like that? Like you said, you had a Denver prep
Speaker 1: school y'all playing a crazy schedule as well. How did
Speaker 1: that prepare you to like get into like cogge decisions
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, like Jeffer probably speaking on this,
Speaker 1: I mean he went crazy at you too, but he
Speaker 1: played in the high school where he lived down the
Speaker 1: street front, how do you think it would have been
Speaker 1: different for you probably going up if you went to
Speaker 1: a prep school situation, you think he would have got
Speaker 1: exposure differently? Or now, I wouldn't have made no prep school.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that, you can na. I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a west side baby. I can't do that outside baby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm outside, yall know me? I was outside. I went
Speaker 1: to every party, I went to everything, boarding school that
Speaker 1: ain't met no uniforms, no way you can. I wore
Speaker 1: white T shirts and rocket worse every day. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: come on, you had to be real disciplined for that though.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it made you a better college student. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I guess when you don't know, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say you don't know no different like you just you know.
Speaker 1: So for the most part, I mean I was an
Speaker 1: hour away from home, and uh, I mean up there,
Speaker 1: there was no I was like up in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere. There was no thought of like, I couldn't
Speaker 1: go act up. There was nothing to act up and do.
Speaker 1: It was gonna do run out in the wilderness. But uh,
Speaker 1: because you're from the Northeast area, yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: not for everybody, but I'll tell you this, it does
Speaker 1: keep a lot of you know, you know how how
Speaker 1: to find a way to avoid trouble. There's some people
Speaker 1: that just walk outside and trouble finds them. So for
Speaker 1: kids like that, I think it's a it's a good
Speaker 1: idea because it'll probably save a lot of kids from
Speaker 1: who get in trouble in high school and can't pursue
Speaker 1: their dreams. Would you had a twenty eleven or twenty
Speaker 1: ten class, No, I was twenty twelve. I was originally
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, So in the in the Northeast. It's popular
Speaker 1: to like reclassify. I feel like I thought we were
Speaker 1: like the first ones. Yeah, so I was, so I
Speaker 1: was young for my grade, so twenty I was originally
Speaker 1: class to twenty eleven and I did two sophomore years.
Speaker 1: So it hurt me in the long run when I'm
Speaker 1: entering the draft and they're like, oh, he about to
Speaker 1: be twenty three, and I was like, did y'all win
Speaker 1: Peach Jam? Yeah? Yeah, how was it? I had a
Speaker 1: whip that was Peach Jam? Was that was the best turn?
Speaker 1: That's the best tournament out Yeah? Yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: see it now it gets all that national that's much
Speaker 1: actually televised. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, Nike
Speaker 1: did a really good job with the E y b L.
Speaker 1: It was like the first year of week first joined.
Speaker 1: But Peach Jam was elite. Who was the toughest matchup
Speaker 1: out there that you can remember? Who was like, damn
Speaker 1: he is nice. I gotta work on my game. I
Speaker 1: gotta get matchup. I don't. I mean, I just remember
Speaker 1: having to play the Saint Louis Eagles when they had
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal, Ben McLamore. That was that was crazy. You
Speaker 1: could do because I was like a post guy and
Speaker 1: them dudes were just dancing around the three point line.
Speaker 1: So they were yeah, yeah, oh he did he play for? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They had him Aj Hammond's Uh who else did they
Speaker 1: have had a couple San Thomas? Yeah was nice? They
Speaker 1: was they was cold? Then who was it? Uh? Team
Speaker 1: Takeover had like b j Anya, Jeremy Grant, James Robinson. Damn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they every game like eybl was was for real.
Speaker 1: That definitely helped me, you know, just playing against like
Speaker 1: I went to high school in Urlans, also playing against
Speaker 1: him kind of helped me play against like shot blockers
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, I could score not at ease, But
Speaker 1: how did you get to Yeah, damn, that's that's actually
Speaker 1: a crazy story. So I didn't have any high major offers,
Speaker 1: I think going into like my junior year and I
Speaker 1: played in the tournament and uh, Fred Hoiberg ended up
Speaker 1: calling me because this prep school we went on like
Speaker 1: a ski trip. So he called me in the middle
Speaker 1: of like me going down the hill tubin or something,
Speaker 1: and I called him back and he wanted me to
Speaker 1: take an unofficial visit. But people don't realize now unofficial visits.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be paid for it, so like my mom
Speaker 1: had to like pay for me to go out there.
Speaker 1: I wasna. I was originally gonna visit just the University
Speaker 1: of Iowa, but then I decided to do both because
Speaker 1: they were both recruiting me. So we get out to
Speaker 1: Des Moines, and Des Moines is a forty five minute
Speaker 1: drive to Aimes, where Iowa State is, and my mom
Speaker 1: forgot a credit card. So when we go to rent
Speaker 1: a car, they was like, sorry, like, no, can't do
Speaker 1: this is like twelve years ago, and so we had
Speaker 1: to take a cab two Aimes, Iowa. Then my mom
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want them to know that I
Speaker 1: forgot my credit cards. So like I'm running across like
Speaker 1: this bean field to like get to the practice facility
Speaker 1: because they're not allowed to pick you up when you
Speaker 1: off campus and stuff like that. And eventually we had
Speaker 1: to take like a megabus which is two hours to
Speaker 1: get to the University of Iowa. And then and then
Speaker 1: finally at the mL was like, I'm gonna call a
Speaker 1: car service so we can just get to the airport.
Speaker 1: And then this is in the middle of nowhere, So
Speaker 1: this dude was like, you want the Lincoln or the Cadillac.
Speaker 1: And my mom was like, just whatever, the Lincoln. This
Speaker 1: dude turns out to be like a hoarder. So like
Speaker 1: he just had like trash like in the car, so
Speaker 1: like he was driving like a tuna fish can and
Speaker 1: like slide across. It was a crazy I was like,
Speaker 1: there ain't no way God wants me to go to Iowa.
Speaker 1: The next thing you know, I'm at Iowa State And
Speaker 1: it was because Fred Hoiberg. I mean he was just
Speaker 1: a honest dude. Told me he was gonna let me
Speaker 1: have the ball in my hands, and it was that's
Speaker 1: what it was. From there. That's crass. You might have
Speaker 1: been in Iowa if they had Uber back then to
Speaker 1: lift your college have been totally different. Shouts a home
Speaker 1: boy driving the tune of whip. That's nasty detail. But
Speaker 1: like wow, I would though like those two schools, like
Speaker 1: you didn't like with Bruit Nah, Like bc BC was
Speaker 1: like I remember Wayne Selden got an offer from them,
Speaker 1: and he was like if they offer you, like, I'll
Speaker 1: go there with you. And Steve Donohue, I mean he's
Speaker 1: the coach at Penn. So we've talked because I'm in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia now, but like nobody else was like at that point,
Speaker 1: like that was the first time made school. They were like, ah,
Speaker 1: what position does he play? Like he's not a three,
Speaker 1: he's not big enough to play a four. He don't
Speaker 1: dunk on nobody. Yeah, So it was like Providence came
Speaker 1: in late with like Ed Cooley, but I had already committed.
Speaker 1: Billy Donovan was late. But you know, if I went
Speaker 1: to Florida that I've been all bad, me different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like in the midst of like George Mason
Speaker 1: was another school, but Larnaga took the Miami job, and
Speaker 1: like I said, if I could to Florida, nah, Miami.
Speaker 1: But I didn't really have a position. I didn't really
Speaker 1: like my highlights were nasty, like people like they do
Speaker 1: highlights like me. I like Nike Peach and people like
Speaker 1: I didn't just waste three minutes of my life watching
Speaker 1: jump hucks and it's crazy. You do got a nasty game,
Speaker 1: Like it's effective. Yeah it happened, the ball, the ball
Speaker 1: goes in the hoop. Yeah, it's nasty, but effect. I
Speaker 1: used to say that we was in practice with the Pikes,
Speaker 1: which I block his game so ugly, but he's so
Speaker 1: nice though, Like he's the cud. Yeah, what's your goal
Speaker 1: to move though? What you fuck him up with? Shoot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: talking a little bit. I mean I've always had that. Yeah, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you know he got the you know whatever. That looks sweet.
Speaker 1: And then he run you know, he run back. Don't
Speaker 1: have no emotions, just like yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He got a chap stick in his socks. I can't
Speaker 1: chat to Charles Rockley right with your belly button Charles
Speaker 1: Rockets putting. He put vastling his belly buttons chap and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, that's the nash sh he's out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's sick, Chatti. Get the socks though. Nah. But I
Speaker 1: first knowed you when you was at Iowa State. I
Speaker 1: watched all of basketball. I watched college basketball like a
Speaker 1: fan back then, and you were killing but you had
Speaker 1: a rare game like you were doing dribble handoffs, fake
Speaker 1: dribble handoffs, running point, shooting threes. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what I couldn't figure you out. I'm like, how is
Speaker 1: he killings? Moving in slow motion? Yeah? I was like
Speaker 1: a little boris d out. Yeah, you know where It's like,
Speaker 1: I think the college game is so traditional where it
Speaker 1: was like play through the big, like you know, when
Speaker 1: you first got to the NBA, played through the big.
Speaker 1: You know, there was no real like movement where Fred
Speaker 1: Hoiberg we played five out. You know, I would make
Speaker 1: I would play center just because I was big enough
Speaker 1: to you know, guard a center back back then and
Speaker 1: then drag them away from the hoop. And they couldn't
Speaker 1: guard me that far away from the hoop. I was
Speaker 1: able to just change direction and dribble, fake handoffs and
Speaker 1: then I could shoot three. So that's uh, that made
Speaker 1: me effective there. But little did I realize when I
Speaker 1: got to the NBA, there was like, uh, cut all
Speaker 1: that ship up, he said. I first, NBA will put
Speaker 1: you in a box, like they want you to do
Speaker 1: one thing. You're gonna do that one thing. So I
Speaker 1: got a question for y'all regarding that. How you think
Speaker 1: is a better situation to go forward with kids? Like
Speaker 1: now it's in prep because like you said, you can
Speaker 1: go to college and do whatever the fuck you want too,
Speaker 1: as long as you found whatever coach you got going.
Speaker 1: But you can get to the league and they can
Speaker 1: kind of like shift your game. Is it more beneficial
Speaker 1: to be like, all right, fun college. I might as
Speaker 1: well go to a G league or be in a
Speaker 1: structured place to where they gonna teach me how to
Speaker 1: play at this level. Or do you want to go
Speaker 1: to college and learn how do you play your own
Speaker 1: game and then just fit in once you get to
Speaker 1: the next situation. Man, that's tough because there's some people
Speaker 1: that you know, they've before they've even gotten to college,
Speaker 1: they've grown to college like so that they need to
Speaker 1: go to like they're they're too talented, they're too big
Speaker 1: of a name, they need to go to the legal league.
Speaker 1: But then there's some guys that think they're too big
Speaker 1: for college that really need to go beat like disciplined
Speaker 1: and learn how to play and you know, learn how
Speaker 1: to grind and actually work before they actually get to league.
Speaker 1: So it's like a person by person basis on that one.
Speaker 1: But I do like what the G league ignite thing does,
Speaker 1: but it also can't hurt guys that think they're better
Speaker 1: than they are. And you get caught taking five hundred
Speaker 1: grand to come out and that's the most money you
Speaker 1: ever see and you don't see that that you show
Speaker 1: what you can't do, and they're like, why would I
Speaker 1: waste time? I'm playing this kid that's real. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you you gotta sell yourself one way or another. I
Speaker 1: know it's a little bit later. Now we ain't gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the past. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: nil deal how you feel you would have eight? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I especially what you be. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the ten year player. You know
Speaker 1: what college basketball loves anybody, classmate, Man, I was all
Speaker 1: those you know, four years in the tournament. The farmer
Speaker 1: money out there I would have had, I would have
Speaker 1: had a good experience out there. But now that I
Speaker 1: think about it, if I had, because I remember when
Speaker 1: I got out of college, I did like a signing
Speaker 1: for like ten grand and I thought I was rich.
Speaker 1: I was like, you couldn't tell me. I was driving
Speaker 1: up to North American Minnesota buying true religion, like I
Speaker 1: thought the time period I thought I was living. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that ain't cool to wear that, not the truth? Where
Speaker 1: would you want? Man? Yeah, you don't do that, the
Speaker 1: true religion. Give me a period. When you talked about
Speaker 1: give me a period, trying to give me the true
Speaker 1: religion fit without the uh the nigga that's built like
Speaker 1: me on the front of the shirt. Just give me
Speaker 1: the regular true religion fit. Just now. You don't want
Speaker 1: the boot on your ship, give me a little coastal
Speaker 1: symbol on that bitch. Ain't no little true religious opperside
Speaker 1: of T shirts And like this bit it looked like
Speaker 1: the Lucky Are Cereal box, the gray one. I wore
Speaker 1: it in the summer. That was my biggest mistake because
Speaker 1: you know, it gets hot. It takes me like raise
Speaker 1: your hand. It wasn't the club going crazy. Was so embarrassed, dude.
Speaker 1: I was like, from now on, just black teath in
Speaker 1: the summer. But how was it? Thought? I though? Did
Speaker 1: you have fun? Yeah? I mean so that was kind
Speaker 1: of really like where I enjoyed, like the outside of basketball, right,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't too crazy where like it got out
Speaker 1: of hand, like I could still manage to get controlled.
Speaker 1: But like people out in the Midwest, they just know
Speaker 1: how to drink, man, nothing else to it. There's like
Speaker 1: people that drinking and there's people from the Midwest. They
Speaker 1: just they just we do a little different. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like people like I drink. Where are you from out
Speaker 1: the West coast? Nah? You know, k how much love
Speaker 1: you get? I mean, it's still to this day. I
Speaker 1: do a charity golf outing out there, I do a
Speaker 1: basketball camp. I don't do it anything else anywhere else
Speaker 1: because that was like the craziest amount of love that Like,
Speaker 1: that's true. It was wild, and that's crazy. We sitting
Speaker 1: here with two people who could have went to BC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. That would have been elected you and had
Speaker 1: the city going crazy. I was I thought about going there.
Speaker 1: What it targe you the wake visit or just because
Speaker 1: they had another guard coming in. Honestly, my mama had
Speaker 1: a dream, That's really what it was. Damn. She said,
Speaker 1: you gotta go to Wake forest Ship. I had a dream.
Speaker 1: It's less it was over and then let's talk about
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So you know what I'm saying, you do
Speaker 1: your thing. Iway stay Now it's time to go to
Speaker 1: the NBA. How was it like the workout process? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because you were second round pick,
Speaker 1: so I imagine you probably had to do a lot
Speaker 1: more shit than like you know, most people have to
Speaker 1: who going on a couple of top slots. Was it
Speaker 1: more favorable for you or was it like more of
Speaker 1: a stressful time? Like damn, Like I gotta go get
Speaker 1: this ship cracking, Like yeah, I mean to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, you know, my agent had a good plan
Speaker 1: of like what teams he knew, like actually would value
Speaker 1: like what I was, what I brought. And I remember
Speaker 1: my last workout was Indiana, and I just remember him
Speaker 1: he all the other workouts, whether it was like the Clippers,
Speaker 1: I forget who else I worked out for, but he
Speaker 1: was like that one like you need, like that's the
Speaker 1: one you need to shill. And I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about, Like they're about they're trying to trade.
Speaker 1: He's like they might trade that first round pick, but
Speaker 1: they have a second round pick. Da da da. So
Speaker 1: I think I was in there with like Yogi Pharaoh,
Speaker 1: Check Diallo, maybe even Bryce Johnson. I can't remember, but
Speaker 1: I ended up playing really well in that workout and
Speaker 1: Kevin Pritchard I remember, yeah it came and had a
Speaker 1: conversation with me after and I was like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: that went better than all the other workouts. Then you
Speaker 1: get to draft night and I was the best worst
Speaker 1: night in my life. It was fifty picks before you
Speaker 1: That was like four hours of sitting there just waiting.
Speaker 1: It felt like forever and then you know that's when
Speaker 1: you can. I mean, that whole trade happened. He was
Speaker 1: coming in then, so Jeff really kind of stole like
Speaker 1: the limelight because it was like the Indiana kids coming
Speaker 1: back like yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah, we ain't gonna
Speaker 1: talk about fifty. We just got this dude. He chose
Speaker 1: that weekend number. I feel would tell you said you
Speaker 1: was gonna pick fifty. I was gonna where zero, but na,
Speaker 1: he wasn't giving that up. So I had forty four
Speaker 1: so I can throw a west side elligates. But I
Speaker 1: was just as mad as you. But go ahead. Nah.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you, though, was you thinking
Speaker 1: NBA the whole time or was you like, yo, I
Speaker 1: might have to go overseas or nothing, like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: going to the league. I mean I always like the league.
Speaker 1: Was always like that's where I wanted to go. But
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I never was like working
Speaker 1: on like I gotta get to the league where like
Speaker 1: most people do. I was like I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: All American or I'm trying to be you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, first Team All American or like a big
Speaker 1: Big twelve Player of the Year and then it was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, your name's on draft boards. Like I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I could actually because my whole like like if you
Speaker 1: look at my game, like yeah it is nasty, it's effective,
Speaker 1: but like I never really thought because nobody ever gave
Speaker 1: me like the reassurance to be like, yo, you your
Speaker 1: game is league. You know what I mean? Like you,
Speaker 1: it was always like yeah, you nice, like if we
Speaker 1: played at the y MC. I've always been I mean,
Speaker 1: like someone stay true to who he was. But like
Speaker 1: you look at my game now, like you watch like
Speaker 1: college film, I was spin moves up and understil Like
Speaker 1: now it's like catching, shooting and drive and obviously I
Speaker 1: could do other stuff, but you realize, like if you
Speaker 1: could fit a role, there's probably like five to six
Speaker 1: to seven roles on the team. If you could fit
Speaker 1: one of those, you could really like just stick it out.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't realize that. Like when I first got
Speaker 1: to Indiana, like I'll never forget, it was preseason and
Speaker 1: I got in and I traveled and I seen Nate McMillan.
Speaker 1: He was walking to like the coach's hudder, and he
Speaker 1: was like someone has to talk to him. He travels
Speaker 1: every time he's about to dribble into my head, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I should just never dribble again, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: so you gotta find like where you where you really fit,
Speaker 1: and who's going to give you an opportunity to do that?
Speaker 1: Like not throwing shade at him, but it like it
Speaker 1: kind of helped me realize, like, all right, there's some
Speaker 1: things that I could get away with before, but now
Speaker 1: it's like all right now the box of like being
Speaker 1: a corner three point maker. That that helped me just
Speaker 1: stick around long enough to get more opportunities to show
Speaker 1: what else I could do. Who puts you? Like? Who?
Speaker 1: Who got you into that mindset? Though? Because Quinn Snyder, Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: he's like a I don't know how to explain it,
Speaker 1: but he's like a basketball and yeah, like a mad scientist.
Speaker 1: Like that's like he's just so in depth with his detail,
Speaker 1: you know that. I just remember like he had one
Speaker 1: of the assistant coaches come talk to me. It was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we signed to you, but if you
Speaker 1: want to play, like you have to make that shot
Speaker 1: and not let someone just straight line drive you on
Speaker 1: the other end, all right, just start running to the corner,
Speaker 1: I'll pass it the ball. Corner threes. So literally, like
Speaker 1: my first year when I was with them, all I
Speaker 1: did was just rep out corner threes. And you know
Speaker 1: how the NBA is, like if you don't know who
Speaker 1: a dude is and you out there, the ball gets
Speaker 1: passing on three point line, you're like, man, so if
Speaker 1: you miss, all right, they're gonna keep. But you start making,
Speaker 1: then you start getting reputation like all right, like this
Speaker 1: dude can make shots. And then you know the evolution
Speaker 1: of three point shot and making you know, on the move,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, all that, and then you eventually figure
Speaker 1: out like damn, if I can make three pointers and
Speaker 1: keep guys out of superstars laps when they ice oning,
Speaker 1: that's that's a role, you know, And that's kind of
Speaker 1: like what I've carved out here. And uh, it didn't
Speaker 1: look that promising when I was my rookie year, but
Speaker 1: it took some time to figure out, and uh, I'm
Speaker 1: going this is year seven. So it's crazy. A salute
Speaker 1: to that bro, because the way that you made it,
Speaker 1: like you said, you didn't have a situation where you
Speaker 1: just came in and got drafted. I'm playing and I'm
Speaker 1: here next contract. You had to really grind, and like
Speaker 1: you said, you came into a situation to that shit
Speaker 1: changes a lot of players because you came into a
Speaker 1: votel situation in Indiana where a lot of unmoving parsons
Speaker 1: going on and a lot of things should have happened
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. Also, like you said, shout out to
Speaker 1: coast with Milan, but you know where he was at
Speaker 1: with the organization of that and with the players. That
Speaker 1: was all different places. And this is your first experience
Speaker 1: in the business of basketball. That can break a lot
Speaker 1: of people because, like you said, you big toe a
Speaker 1: player of the year, Like you come in like I'm
Speaker 1: used to do whatever I want to and it's like, nah,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this. That breaks a lot of players
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, off the sense of I've been doing
Speaker 1: this shit in my whole life and now you're telling
Speaker 1: me how to play. But like you said, you took
Speaker 1: advantage of a situation and you're making a full career
Speaker 1: out of that ship. Now we're talking about the pace.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Who was your fatman? You
Speaker 1: was a rookie? Who was your who was your guy?
Speaker 1: That just the first trip we had, he pulled me aside,
Speaker 1: and you know he was like, listen, you know your
Speaker 1: rookie year is gonna be crazy. But you know I
Speaker 1: got you, Dad. I'm gonna ask you to do a
Speaker 1: couple of things here and the A couple of things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember. One of them was the dove soap at
Speaker 1: the at the every game. I can appreciate that my
Speaker 1: man cares about his hygiene, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He wasn't using the week week soap said. He made
Speaker 1: you go get the dove so so every so everything.
Speaker 1: You probably still get the dumb yeah, absolutely, So not
Speaker 1: go go crazy. I don't want to interrupt your interview
Speaker 1: for real. Go ahead. You don't that they give you.
Speaker 1: It was like handsen it like yeah, no, no, like
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like it's up on the wall like type.
Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, my bad. I didn't like he'd
Speaker 1: be like, hey, yo, here's something. You know. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna go in to detail, but you know, just let
Speaker 1: me every every road game that we have, like can
Speaker 1: I get some some dove soap? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So I always carry around like soap. I also had
Speaker 1: to carry around the cards. Uh, got to go. Get
Speaker 1: long has done us. So you know when when some
Speaker 1: of the other events, you know it didn't step up
Speaker 1: to you know what i mean, helped me out. My
Speaker 1: my good man, would you know what I mean look
Speaker 1: out for me and uh but another one and then
Speaker 1: not pay and then not pay you. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of like like a lost art. So when when he
Speaker 1: first was like, yeah, like here you go, like this
Speaker 1: is what I expect out of you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I'm gonna look out for you if
Speaker 1: you ever had any questions, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And from there that was that was the best season,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, I think every
Speaker 1: rookie should have have a vet that actually like looks
Speaker 1: out for them. I mean I think I was the
Speaker 1: only rookie on the team, but he actually like showed me, show,
Speaker 1: showed me the game, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: kept it reil and you know that was a rough
Speaker 1: season for me, but you know, my God always always
Speaker 1: kept interesting. Another one was Al Jefferson. I can't forget him.
Speaker 1: He was making me get him a breakfast sandwich before
Speaker 1: every shoot around and Jimmy John's after every shoot around
Speaker 1: with like potato chips and water. And I remember Weir
Speaker 1: was in New York and uh, I ordered like an
Speaker 1: egg sandwich from and they did some fancy like this
Speaker 1: is the Southern dude, so he like wants scrambled eggs, bacon, cheest,
Speaker 1: like just the regular way. Not so they gave me
Speaker 1: like poached eggs and it was like right before the
Speaker 1: bust was coming down. But I ordered the omelet for myself,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, like I got an omelet. But
Speaker 1: so I ended up like cutting half an omelet and
Speaker 1: like tuck the post eggs off, threw it on the bagel,
Speaker 1: put the bacon on it, and like there's some cheese
Speaker 1: on it. Put it together, and I'm walking down because
Speaker 1: whenever like the breakfast sanwich was sucks, he'd be like, yo, fella, man,
Speaker 1: it's the worst shit I ever had. And I'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. He would be like you the worst rookie
Speaker 1: out and ever had, man like you shout out like
Speaker 1: stupid like that, and he was just joking, but you know,
Speaker 1: after all, you'd be like, damn, I gotta be better.
Speaker 1: So when I'm getting on the bus, I'm like shake.
Speaker 1: He always set in the back, so I walked it
Speaker 1: all the way down in the back and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: he definitely gonna know. I cut this off and it's
Speaker 1: like hanging out the big gol like listen. So we
Speaker 1: ride and I remember we're in New York. Were riding
Speaker 1: the shoot around, which is crazy. We had to shoot
Speaker 1: around in New York. That's crazy, sou He's we like
Speaker 1: ten minutes in and he's like, yong fella and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, like here we go. He was like, this
Speaker 1: got to be one of the best ones ever. Man.
Speaker 1: I was like this, like, you couldn't even make this
Speaker 1: shitt up. But he shout out to big as. He was, No,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do that. Shit. Do what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You didn't really have to do that. So shout out
Speaker 1: to YouTube for putting the fourth that man if I
Speaker 1: didn't want, Yeah, he had that motherucker post. Oh my
Speaker 1: mom nah. But George, though you laugh, would you know
Speaker 1: how I was? I was? He was cool. Nobody telling me.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked. I was like, I know some
Speaker 1: of his rookie stories here that school. He took it easier.
Speaker 1: That boy, you had to do so cool. I got
Speaker 1: the best part about his rookie years after our season
Speaker 1: was over, my fat Yeah you could. This is the podcast.
Speaker 1: We don't have to because that interesting. But literally he
Speaker 1: my rookie year after the seasons. We're playing one on one. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is where my knee problems start. You remember that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I slipped, bro, I'm a free agent. I slipped. I
Speaker 1: banged my knee on the ground. I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I was so scared. I thought I ended it. I
Speaker 1: thought I looked at him. I'm like, oh shit, I
Speaker 1: got quick playing. I just left. I ain't come back
Speaker 1: to the facility at all. I sucked up my ship.
Speaker 1: My agent called me. I think I sucked my ship up.
Speaker 1: But I had like two or a little piece of
Speaker 1: my niscuits. It was over, damn. But then he still
Speaker 1: had to go collect that. I went through that motherfucking
Speaker 1: drill sh Minnesota. I'm over there. She was hurt, like,
Speaker 1: are you figuring this out? Yeah, they do yours on
Speaker 1: the knee or nothing. I was like, hell, yeah, we
Speaker 1: go sign this motherfucker. Yeah, that's one thing I'll say,
Speaker 1: my nigger, he go gets to that check and I'll
Speaker 1: respect that, no question. So that's you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you go through that first year and then after that,
Speaker 1: you know, take us a little bit through that journey,
Speaker 1: because I'm saying you obviously moved around a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was in the G League. How was it like
Speaker 1: going through that first year in the NBA and they're
Speaker 1: transitioning to the G League and then you end up
Speaker 1: transditioning back out to Utah. But how was that Thompston
Speaker 1: for you? Like, man, that was a humbling experience. That's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you I get cut, you know, so you
Speaker 1: hit rock bottom. You're like, damn, but I just mess
Speaker 1: up the only opportunity that I'll ever have to to
Speaker 1: play in the NBA. And and then the best thing
Speaker 1: I did was I was able to sign a exhibit ten,
Speaker 1: which is like you're going down to the league with
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, so I could see how yeah,
Speaker 1: so I could see how like k D Steph Clay Draymond,
Speaker 1: how they work like every day. And then to be
Speaker 1: around guys like andre I goodal A, Sean Livingston, like
Speaker 1: you got to see like, so I went from one
Speaker 1: one side of the spectrum to the other where it's
Speaker 1: like they just won a championship and so just to
Speaker 1: see how they had a daily routine. I think that
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing for me, is just you know,
Speaker 1: you can't just work on the days that you feel
Speaker 1: like work. And it was more or less that, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it everywhere every day and get a
Speaker 1: little bit better every single day. So obviously that was humbling,
Speaker 1: you know, being there and being in the G League
Speaker 1: having to start making you go. I think I made
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty my rookie year, and then my
Speaker 1: checks every two weeks were like nine hundred dollars because
Speaker 1: I was making twenty five grand in California, damn and
Speaker 1: a Cruise Warriors. That's when it was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I better make I better make this shakeout or you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't got no other choice.
Speaker 1: So obviously the G League is a it's the same game,
Speaker 1: but it's totally different. You can get away with, you know,
Speaker 1: over dribbling and stuff like that. But it allowed me
Speaker 1: to show what I really was doing in college at
Speaker 1: kind of the NBA level. And then I got that
Speaker 1: two way contract, which rather than having to be on
Speaker 1: a ten day which is I can't imagine the pressure
Speaker 1: to do is on a ten day, got a field,
Speaker 1: so then I was allowed to like you know, play
Speaker 1: the rest of the year on a two way. Obviously
Speaker 1: he got practice time, you know, summer league, and I
Speaker 1: had a good summer league and I ended up getting
Speaker 1: signed as like one of the fourteen fifteenth man. And
Speaker 1: the thing that saved me was Tabo Cephalosha had got
Speaker 1: suspended for five games. Yeah, so they had to play
Speaker 1: me in like spot minutes and I made shots for
Speaker 1: five games. He came back played over me, but I
Speaker 1: ended up getting back in the rotation and from there
Speaker 1: on how it was. And that's real, breaking a rotation.
Speaker 1: Like I always say, it's like as much as people
Speaker 1: talk about athletes and like how much they get paid, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you couldn't imagine like people grind up for them
Speaker 1: to days. You gotta make the most out of nothing
Speaker 1: because you ain't getting too many opportunities borrowing somebody getting
Speaker 1: crazy injured. You probably not gonna shoot the ball that much.
Speaker 1: You gotta do something in that time period for a
Speaker 1: team to be like, hey we got to keep him around.
Speaker 1: Why are they looking at eight other different prospects. But
Speaker 1: like you said, you made that shit happen. Got there,
Speaker 1: got the All Star got it cracking. And then you
Speaker 1: get to Utah and know what I'm saying with coach Schnyder,
Speaker 1: how was that because you was a Utah when Utah
Speaker 1: and what I'm saying had like a revamp. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You got you got Rudy. How was
Speaker 1: that experience? Like getting back nickname? Oh wow, I was
Speaker 1: gonna bring that up. Now he had a fire nickname.
Speaker 1: See here you go. What that's the g wagon it
Speaker 1: went for mini Vintag told me to talk about I'm
Speaker 1: talking about nah. So I was. I was out the
Speaker 1: rotation and we was beating Brooklyn like bad, and they
Speaker 1: subbed me in the game and I had a chance
Speaker 1: to go up and dunking, you know, like them the
Speaker 1: rim grade is like barely over the rim. So Joe Ingoes,
Speaker 1: who's like the king of talking shit on the team,
Speaker 1: was like, man, what the heck was that? I was like, whoa, whoa, Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not like a Ferrari like the rest of y'all.
Speaker 1: More like a minivan. I need a couple of apps
Speaker 1: around the block five get the top speed and then
Speaker 1: the silar reports like the minivan. I love that. And
Speaker 1: then I was screwed after that if you would have
Speaker 1: went to the rucker there like the minivan, Yeah, like escalade,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When I heard it, I
Speaker 1: was like, they call you the minivan. Yeah, this dude
Speaker 1: was talking when I was shooting threes in the corner,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make a living. This dude was
Speaker 1: on the bench like yo, No, he was like you
Speaker 1: made that. I knew you was gonna look at me.
Speaker 1: That's why it was so fun. Compete that gets him
Speaker 1: because it's like somebody you watched go through it and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like damn, he having his moment and he was killing,
Speaker 1: mocking shoot. And like you said, your time is impeccable
Speaker 1: because a lot of people come in the league different
Speaker 1: times to where your specialty may expire in two years.
Speaker 1: You can't in a situation to where it now the
Speaker 1: premium the most important position. Like you look at guys
Speaker 1: like Doc and Robinson, k Robinson, I've had a ship
Speaker 1: telling them to do one thing and now they're kind
Speaker 1: of like, where really fuck with that? But he hit
Speaker 1: at the right time. My god. As you can get
Speaker 1: a test to free agency matters about timing out, about
Speaker 1: situation timing and you in a perfect a perfect situation
Speaker 1: right now, boy, and you go are better than what
Speaker 1: they give you credit for our times like yo, And
Speaker 1: that's that's another thing that I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Let him know. The perception is crazy. You got a
Speaker 1: little yeah, because at the end of the day, someone
Speaker 1: will look at someone that looks like they can defend, right,
Speaker 1: but someone will drive past them four straight times and
Speaker 1: they don't even you know what I mean, don't even
Speaker 1: bad eye. But if someone go by me, oh look
Speaker 1: at them, look defend That's what I mean. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would never defender though. Yeah, but you know what it
Speaker 1: was is like because you have like the emotionless face
Speaker 1: that people didn't think that you cared right. So like
Speaker 1: he would even tell me on the bench watched this
Speaker 1: like he'll go go throw a lob and be like
Speaker 1: and coach, be like just in the game today, Like
Speaker 1: what because yeah, for real? But he'd be doing the
Speaker 1: same stuff like dropping down and be a nice pass
Speaker 1: lay up and be like he look look at him,
Speaker 1: Look he looks like he's sleep out of there. Like look,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you want him? Like that? Like
Speaker 1: that was never you, but he he knew you knew
Speaker 1: how to play the game, and now that I'm seven
Speaker 1: years in, I know exactly. So would you call yourself
Speaker 1: an elite defender? Uh? I mean, Okay, here's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. I feel like there's guys that get picked
Speaker 1: are you know in the playoffs, are like that guy's
Speaker 1: in every Like I'm doing two things. I'm talking crazy
Speaker 1: shit and I'm just gonna be ultra physical, like you
Speaker 1: gonna have to have me just fouled, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: hit tough contested jump rover. You're not just gonna and
Speaker 1: then like think you're just driving by me, Like if
Speaker 1: you drive by me one time, it's like, you know
Speaker 1: exactly where Like these other guys that are out there
Speaker 1: that get picked on, they're like they don't want to
Speaker 1: touch nobody up. Yeah, No, it ain't sweeting. We ain't
Speaker 1: switching for y'a. So how was it like when you
Speaker 1: had to leave Utah? Was it bitter sweet dad? No?
Speaker 1: I mean that hurt. I mean that really hurt. Like
Speaker 1: that was like the first time where I felt like
Speaker 1: I really like earned earned my roster, spart earned to
Speaker 1: be there, and it was like, yeah, like we we
Speaker 1: signed Rudy Gay, Like you know, we're going in a
Speaker 1: different direction, and you know, I'll never throw shade on
Speaker 1: another player, but obviously you look at other people and
Speaker 1: where they are in their career, like Rudy Gay has
Speaker 1: had a hell of a career. But in my mind,
Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, but like what I did,
Speaker 1: Like I shot forty percent, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I came in, never complained and like that was just
Speaker 1: taking for granted. But you know, like it up once
Speaker 1: you left, like because it seems like that was all
Speaker 1: like super cool, like even seeing y'all after the game, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: was a cheesecake factory and shit, I'm like that's the
Speaker 1: only place I could go for real. Ru Rudy was
Speaker 1: there temporarily, he was trying. He still there, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I just felt like they probably I don't
Speaker 1: think that was really where he probably wanted to go
Speaker 1: at first though you think really wanted to be there.
Speaker 1: I mean shit, I mean, I mean you go where
Speaker 1: the money. I mean, you go where the money goes.
Speaker 1: But so like you when you're like when you're a
Speaker 1: free agent, you're thinking like if the team sign signed
Speaker 1: someone that kind of does the same thing that you
Speaker 1: do for more money than where you're making. They chose
Speaker 1: him over you, so I had to go find another place.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which that was like damn, So you didn't
Speaker 1: really value what I did. You felt like you had
Speaker 1: to go get someone else to do something that I
Speaker 1: did and think they're gonna do it better. So that
Speaker 1: was my first time and that I never had free
Speaker 1: agency where teams were like, hey, we're asking about you.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, damn, like that
Speaker 1: that really Like that was one where when I got
Speaker 1: to Philly, I was like, damn, I I missed Utah,
Speaker 1: but I know they don't really care about me. And
Speaker 1: then when you play alongside like two superstars that like
Speaker 1: demand like double teams and stuff like that, you like, shit,
Speaker 1: I thought I was opening Utah, but yeah, even like
Speaker 1: I just double team, try to trapping. I hope he missed,
Speaker 1: Like you know what, I'm getting wide open shot after
Speaker 1: wide open shot, and it's it was. It was a
Speaker 1: blessing because I didn't think it was a blessing in
Speaker 1: the beginning, but it really helped, like helped me show
Speaker 1: the NBA or other gms like how much more I
Speaker 1: have to offer in my game if I'm given the
Speaker 1: opportunity and you own a team that's highlighted in the
Speaker 1: last everybody's seeing you every week. Yeah, you think it's
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a difference, but you think it's
Speaker 1: a really big difference, like when you and them smaller
Speaker 1: market teams, Like even if you're going crazy, yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: look at Dave Millard ye talk about it. It It should
Speaker 1: have been an all star off the jump. But like
Speaker 1: being in Sacramento, it's like even though they're playing good
Speaker 1: as hell this year and it's yeah, yeah, they still
Speaker 1: they're like third in the West, and they still don't
Speaker 1: even get like they gonna around get to two seed
Speaker 1: and they still don't give a shit and they haven't
Speaker 1: made a playoffs in fifteen years. Like the bean Man,
Speaker 1: they was it was due, They was due for a
Speaker 1: good year. Yeah, but I mean what you mean there
Speaker 1: was dude, They was due seven years ago. They was
Speaker 1: doing year. They ain't been good since Baby was there.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, that what they're doing over there, that's
Speaker 1: real effort. It's not just the luck, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Damn, I ain't saying it was luck. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it was like it's just supposed to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that ain't no they were sketchers. You'd
Speaker 1: be like, nah, they ain't doue that bullshit. All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is they they are good team here. They had
Speaker 1: every fucking draft pick since my fucking ninety seven. So
Speaker 1: you first draft first round, you do for a good
Speaker 1: season and disrespect him marpen Backley, but boarded they fuck
Speaker 1: up that draft that was supposed to get them back
Speaker 1: by sill over there no after body had the picks
Speaker 1: on the draft. Shout out to my nigga. The bris
Speaker 1: Cousins fuck the same time. So now blodie out of there.
Speaker 1: See you go. That's why they made it. You play
Speaker 1: with two, you know what I'm saying, Hollo tanem so
Speaker 1: far in your career, I gotta ask you. I think
Speaker 1: obviously we know where you're going with this, But what's
Speaker 1: the difference between playing with Donovan and Rudy and the
Speaker 1: difference between playing with Hardening and b Oh? I mean
Speaker 1: and b demand though I do it for you, bro,
Speaker 1: he demands double teams. Rudy didn't demand no double Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like Rudy is like think about who we
Speaker 1: had like in Utah, right, like we had all a
Speaker 1: like six eight you know, not really NBA athletic like
Speaker 1: shooters like Royce, Nio Joe and Goes Boy. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: even had Mike Conley. So I mean quins Steiner was like, hey,
Speaker 1: worst comes to worst, just press up into your guy,
Speaker 1: stay on his hip, going to the rim rudy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I remember sometimes just guided my guy and the rudy
Speaker 1: and then just falling right off into the big like
Speaker 1: he gonna either block. It effected like you're going full speed,
Speaker 1: gotta shoot over a seven two shot blocker. It changes
Speaker 1: the game and we're taking away the three point line,
Speaker 1: I mean defect. Like, so we were allowed to play
Speaker 1: defense a crazy way which didn't give any teams advantage.
Speaker 1: Like if you wanted to beat this, you would have
Speaker 1: had to make like twenty five mid range jump shots
Speaker 1: at like a fifty percent clip, which is like unheard of.
Speaker 1: And then you you know, Donovan was so athletic, dynamic,
Speaker 1: like he just creative out there, like you've seen him
Speaker 1: last night. He hits someone with a sham guy and
Speaker 1: then a pull up three like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And then he's just he's just he was something that
Speaker 1: we didn't have. We always you know, I hate to
Speaker 1: say unathletic, but like to the NBA standard of like,
Speaker 1: so none of us had the ability to like really
Speaker 1: go buy anybody. And Quinn's a mastermind at creating advantages.
Speaker 1: Then you have Donovan and someone that could play one
Speaker 1: on one. So it's like two different dynamics because now
Speaker 1: I'm playing with guys that don't need any action, like
Speaker 1: they all go get a bucket regardless from the other
Speaker 1: side of the core in the corner being double team
Speaker 1: like we played last night. I don't know when y'all
Speaker 1: gonna art, But against the Bucks, I mean, James, we
Speaker 1: was down fifteen points going into the fourth quarter. It
Speaker 1: was like James Harden was like, all right, come on,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, lay up, three step
Speaker 1: back and next thing, you know, you like like Jayalen
Speaker 1: McDaniel said to me, he was like, oh we win it.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Like this dude just really just
Speaker 1: put the team on his back. And I mean it
Speaker 1: did just two different people, but the dynamic dude of
Speaker 1: Joel and and James, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever seen a pick and roll tandem like
Speaker 1: that in this error of the game with switching because
Speaker 1: you can't switch, like were you gonna put your big
Speaker 1: on James, because we're you gonna do, put your the
Speaker 1: guard that's guarded on Joel like it's over, and then
Speaker 1: you surround that with shooting, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: That's how you get some chicken and in that way,
Speaker 1: like you said it regardless and if you don't cover,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get free throws. And I asked a question
Speaker 1: because people, as much as I'm not the biggest Rudy fair, Yo,
Speaker 1: his defense changed a lot. Like so being able to,
Speaker 1: like you said, close out and send somebody to the
Speaker 1: room can't be just effective. It's being able to throw
Speaker 1: the ball in the post if you playing the right
Speaker 1: way right, No, you you ain't lying. I mean. The
Speaker 1: thing about Joel is that you want to come double team.
Speaker 1: He has that mid range where he'll just shoot over you.
Speaker 1: Elite you see teams just get discouraged because they come
Speaker 1: to double and he's looking and shooting right over you,
Speaker 1: whereas like Rudy, it's more of like a lob threat.
Speaker 1: But on the defense event, he's he's stopped another team
Speaker 1: from scoring twenty easy thirty easy points because they ain't Jilly.
Speaker 1: You know, Jill, you're thinking about that shit for you
Speaker 1: coming to back. Come on, I remember we played, remember
Speaker 1: what he was in India. They're like, go bear, I
Speaker 1: remember dan Bert, Go bear. If you go in there,
Speaker 1: just think about it, whether if you're gonna kick out
Speaker 1: or try and shoot a layer, because damn, his blocks
Speaker 1: turn into like they're like turnovers for us. They're leading
Speaker 1: the fast break points for them. And like you said,
Speaker 1: that's a part of the getting that people don't really
Speaker 1: put together. Like like you said, a quick little contest
Speaker 1: or a block is a layup on the other ear.
Speaker 1: It's just an effect of getting that bitch in the posts. Also,
Speaker 1: James Hard boss here, I don't, I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: James Hard not gotta at absolutely like for no reason.
Speaker 1: I understand every about respected those who had good years.
Speaker 1: I shot down't nobody, but James Harden was cooking two
Speaker 1: eleven and seven. Give somebody else, Just give somebody else.
Speaker 1: He's a hitter. That's just what it is. It's an
Speaker 1: equal opportunity. If anybody else had this stet line, but
Speaker 1: the Max do talk about it, but it's crazy. I
Speaker 1: got a question, though, what are you listening to game day?
Speaker 1: You got some music that gets you together or you know,
Speaker 1: obviously being in Philly, you know Meek Miller eventually comes on.
Speaker 1: But you know who I really really been listening to
Speaker 1: his NBA Young Boy, Yes, my CEG. That's why I mean,
Speaker 1: so I don't So here's the thing. It's like where
Speaker 1: I've come, where I've come from. I can't really say
Speaker 1: that I really, you know, understand something he's talking about.
Speaker 1: But it's okay. I'm here to god. When I heard
Speaker 1: you fuck with NBA with your boy to your boyfar
Speaker 1: that one, I ain't gonna lie, bro, that shocked me. No.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like like it's one of those
Speaker 1: things that I'm listening to on a constant basis. But
Speaker 1: his music definitely gets me me hype. That's what's something.
Speaker 1: I remember what he was listening to because we had
Speaker 1: a whole argument last week about NAS and I just
Speaker 1: refused to believe that he had one of my playing
Speaker 1: your locker room. But I was getting ready for a game. Respectfully.
Speaker 1: He was a great teammate, you know, who you put
Speaker 1: me on though, okay, which helped me. You know, ladies
Speaker 1: out there, Eric Bellinger, come on man, yeah yeah that's
Speaker 1: a good one. I ain't knock us. We be added
Speaker 1: about music. That's a good one. Yeah. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know nothing about it. He was like, Yo, you got
Speaker 1: this one in head, played this for you? So who
Speaker 1: do you he put you on? Eric B? But who
Speaker 1: who you fu with on R and B side? Though?
Speaker 1: Did he the R and B guru? Uh? Debatable? I
Speaker 1: mean I'm very I like, uh genuine, but see but
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, like, so I'm mixed. I'm mixed, right, okay,
Speaker 1: So like that that side that you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that side where you're talking about like like someone had
Speaker 1: a cookout, Like I ain't really got too many of those,
Speaker 1: I respect. I got the flow, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So I'm still being put on too, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm Okay, I gonna sit up here and lie to
Speaker 1: you and make up something that I never want to
Speaker 1: be you. I got the girl. What's what's y'all doing? Utah? Though?
Speaker 1: Like off the court, what did y'all do? Like for
Speaker 1: they wouldn't playing? It was actually cool because it actually
Speaker 1: gave me like time to just not feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're in the city where there's do you like, I
Speaker 1: gotta be doing something like the views. It was cool,
Speaker 1: there was there's good people out there. But I was
Speaker 1: never in a rush to like try and go meet
Speaker 1: up at dinner or I just it was just slow paced.
Speaker 1: So it was more or less just chill. I mean
Speaker 1: there was like rooftops that you know had, I mean
Speaker 1: simple stuff, nothing that you you know, No, I was
Speaker 1: just wondering. I ain't never kicked in Utah, so I
Speaker 1: always yeah, yeah, I mean there's park City is when
Speaker 1: there's sundance out there. There's there's some good times to
Speaker 1: remind you, Iowa no dispectful. We just talking about recruiting
Speaker 1: that I I was flat so like you, I had
Speaker 1: like mountains and I'm talking about the vibe, vibe like
Speaker 1: because drinking wasn't really so now you and Philly. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, how is it going outside? And
Speaker 1: Philly like, how's that can Rodder? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You're in the locker room with the homies and you're
Speaker 1: stepping out as this before we go down after a game.
Speaker 1: What is the what are the fans because I've been
Speaker 1: to Philly and they getting their ass kicked boom brutal
Speaker 1: let me talking like yeah, like I remember, like you
Speaker 1: might have to pull the clip on this one. But
Speaker 1: we played Denver and it was like Joel's first match
Speaker 1: up against your kitchen. They was going like they was
Speaker 1: necking MVP right and he kicked it to me in
Speaker 1: the corner and we was down three. Jamikah Green blocks
Speaker 1: my three. I get the rebound back. We're still down three.
Speaker 1: There's like three seconds left, but I had like a
Speaker 1: I gotta just score quick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just got my ship blocked, so i'd rather than
Speaker 1: kicking it out the tyres, actually I shoot a floater.
Speaker 1: Time ends we lose. This is like doctors like what
Speaker 1: the man. I'm walking off the court, They're like, you
Speaker 1: fucking suck of that song. I'm like, damn. So I'm
Speaker 1: driving driving up, you know, because there's like a ramp
Speaker 1: to like get out and then so I'll never forget this,
Speaker 1: like people know, like your car after out there, like
Speaker 1: I don't even know why we signed your batucking like no,
Speaker 1: it's it was. It's crazy, but I can appreciate it
Speaker 1: because they actually care, you know what I mean, where
Speaker 1: it's like I wouldn't want to go to a place
Speaker 1: where it's just like you know what I mean, where
Speaker 1: I have to stay in field like every night, like
Speaker 1: you see people in there who are like it's a
Speaker 1: blue collar you know city where it's like I'm an electrician.
Speaker 1: I make eighty K year if I'm going to a game,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like I put a lot of my
Speaker 1: hard earned money, and it's like I want to see
Speaker 1: you play your best, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: can appreciate that, and it definitely makes you want to
Speaker 1: be prepared when you get out there, like you ain't
Speaker 1: going out there like I don't know if I got
Speaker 1: it tonight, not at home. At least you ain't the
Speaker 1: Philly fans stretchers, the motherfucker's blue Santa Claus I speak.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm saved g because
Speaker 1: obviously the professionally he's a Sixers organization players right now.
Speaker 1: But Eagles fans, y'all fucking sucked. They are probably the
Speaker 1: worst fan base. I speak for me, I know he
Speaker 1: going to the crib. Oh, I'm happy they flew where
Speaker 1: they flew to right back in that cage the Eagles.
Speaker 1: What I'm hurts he's the guy. I respect that a lot.
Speaker 1: He cold, but the Eagles niggas. They don't get no
Speaker 1: player around here. But like you said, how was it once?
Speaker 1: You know, I say what you deal with Utah? Now
Speaker 1: you were Philly A little bit different of a vibe
Speaker 1: stepping out, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I VP
Speaker 1: candidates and your team. I'm sure going out was probably
Speaker 1: a little bit more lit there it was in Utah,
Speaker 1: I would imagine. Yeah, I mean we have a good
Speaker 1: time as a team. You know, obviously New York's made
Speaker 1: up the street if anything, but Philly is uh. They
Speaker 1: definitely show love and we definitely have people on the
Speaker 1: team that you know, you know how to have a
Speaker 1: good time, that's for sure. Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta kick back, relaxing, enjoy yourself every
Speaker 1: once in a while. You can't be always up tight.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm fucking oh oh you was here with
Speaker 1: team You're a nasty nigga. J Well, the time I
Speaker 1: got talking about what was you outside here? I know
Speaker 1: you was here for a year, but it was revel
Speaker 1: Oh wow about yeah, what was uh they had with
Speaker 1: like under the bridge catileg wrench Ye, Jeffery, have you
Speaker 1: taken off too near? Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good time.
Speaker 1: I seen him in here, it'd be like it's row
Speaker 1: Hill man, it'd be a lot of mixed, mixed motherfuckers
Speaker 1: experience in any sometimes he's crazy, crazy crazy. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying there was like, okay, this motherfuck he didn't take
Speaker 1: you to the trench like it was it was it
Speaker 1: was and though yeah, tremors and all that ship was gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah you went in there, you probably he was probably
Speaker 1: in that motherfucker jumping with arms in the area. That's
Speaker 1: what you think crazy. Don't let him patient with you now.
Speaker 1: But he didn't take you know where where it was
Speaker 1: really like happening. Yeah, you ain't going a couple blocks
Speaker 1: away for long. I've been what's the place across the
Speaker 1: street that longs you went to the icon? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: custu man. Okay, lets the boat, baby, Okay, y'all retarded
Speaker 1: being so much trouble man. I'm just like, what's the
Speaker 1: difference between your team this year and last year? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I got I was I
Speaker 1: did like some radio showing on that text that yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like hilarious, but it was like the way I
Speaker 1: said it was like you have a roster, like when
Speaker 1: someone takes like a max contract, if like he was
Speaker 1: beneficial for us, like get in there and passed, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like when I'm when
Speaker 1: I signed to come there, you know, I'm thinking like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is perfect, like another big guard that can get
Speaker 1: into lane and loves to pass, Like how many more
Speaker 1: open shots am I gonna get? And then when you
Speaker 1: decide like like so the team doesn't get anything from that,
Speaker 1: I'm not playing, Like so now you gotta start from
Speaker 1: like minus thirty three million, like that's tough, and everybody
Speaker 1: knows like he wasn't just getting traded head up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So now when you thinking about
Speaker 1: stuff you can't control you out there like damn, like
Speaker 1: am I playing too well? Like am I going to
Speaker 1: get attached on to him to get these as? Then
Speaker 1: you twitter the worst thing because you know you're going
Speaker 1: to Sacramento? Are you going to Detroit? Are you going
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean? You like, dang, I
Speaker 1: just got here, like like I'm just getting acclimated and
Speaker 1: then when you trade for someone you know as dynamic
Speaker 1: and prolific as James Harden, I mean, you gotta like
Speaker 1: change the way you do things because like he has
Speaker 1: to fit you know what you're doing. So we didn't
Speaker 1: have enough time to really get that rolling. I think
Speaker 1: this year we've had time him to like build chemistry
Speaker 1: and see what we like and what we can be
Speaker 1: better at. And it obviously took us a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I think you could when you'll watch, you could
Speaker 1: see glimpses of like, oh damn, like they for real.
Speaker 1: And then there's other times where you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: they still got they still got some ship to figure
Speaker 1: out before they are are really good to you. Bro
Speaker 1: ye got hurt oh Man twenty five in the first half.
Speaker 1: I think that little injury kind of setting back a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I mean I think when you play
Speaker 1: with and you have that much athleticism, when you have
Speaker 1: something like that mentally, I mean you would No, I've
Speaker 1: never I've done moved fast enough to but yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: and then you know the adjustment of coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: But now he started, I think he's damaging like twenty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I know, y'all went through like that
Speaker 1: little moment. Oh, ye got hurt the first time we
Speaker 1: got hurt and it was like damn because James was
Speaker 1: out too. Yeah James, And was it Joel for a
Speaker 1: little bit too with his knee or something. Yeah, we were,
Speaker 1: we was fighting. I remember we was doing Charlotte and
Speaker 1: lost to them, So that was damn. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets. I can't wait till y'all geme, like y'all
Speaker 1: start to get everybody. Yeah, yeah, how you like playing
Speaker 1: with my dog? PJ? Shout out to PJ. PJ Tucker Man,
Speaker 1: he's got to be top top three, top top two
Speaker 1: teammates of all time, like just a if you go
Speaker 1: on a ward, you want that guy on your team
Speaker 1: and he won the best dude, one of the best.
Speaker 1: Super shout out to PJ man. You already know super
Speaker 1: cool you Yeah, Like he's like the prototype of your game.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at a player, you'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: can he be PJ Tucker? Yeah, And that's what you're
Speaker 1: probably not for sure. Well before that, it was like
Speaker 1: Jared Dudley, Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had a long PJ play. What's his like eight, it
Speaker 1: was like sixteen sevent. Yeah, now you're doing it right.
Speaker 1: And that's the far thing, you say, like to see
Speaker 1: somebody create an avenue and see somebody flourishing. It's just
Speaker 1: like I can keep doing this another ten years because
Speaker 1: what I do is still important, right. No, I think
Speaker 1: the coolest part is like I think as an og
Speaker 1: like he sees people are coming up in his shoes
Speaker 1: and the like, you know kind of school you to
Speaker 1: the game. And I know this is year seven for me,
Speaker 1: but I still have a lot to learn in the fact,
Speaker 1: you know, he's won a championship, he's been to the
Speaker 1: Mountain tips, so you know, telling me on how to
Speaker 1: prepare for certain games or what to do leading up
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. He's huge. He's a huge contributor on
Speaker 1: our team. So pause, I'm about to go. I was
Speaker 1: about to be like, see you will of to day.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're immature over here. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna go about like you gotta be his teammate to
Speaker 1: realize how many fucking shoes. No, even then, you have no,
Speaker 1: you have no like here I thought it was bad.
Speaker 1: Like so he has his locker in the pax facility,
Speaker 1: and then he has like a whole area gotta be
Speaker 1: like ten by ten with like shoes like on shoes
Speaker 1: like this, but a whole lockers feel. Then you got
Speaker 1: the locker room at the arena that got like a
Speaker 1: whole other locker with just like the boxes of like
Speaker 1: some more shoes. And then he got like a whole
Speaker 1: like thinking about them laundry buckets he got them and
Speaker 1: just shoes like whatever. And then there's the back equipment room.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. People have told me he has like a house.
Speaker 1: Whenever you bring it up to him, he'd be like,
Speaker 1: I'm been there, it's crazy. He'd be like these ones.
Speaker 1: I got these ones like twelve years ago. I might
Speaker 1: wear it every night. I'm gonna wear He switched his
Speaker 1: shoes like four or five times. He has like two,
Speaker 1: you know the sixteen shoes back. He got like two
Speaker 1: of those on the road. He don't play. You gotta
Speaker 1: like be his teammate, realize that shit. Yeah, they didn't
Speaker 1: explain it to people. They people be looking at me
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy when I tell the story, like this
Speaker 1: nigga got shoes and you got kicks. And the crazy
Speaker 1: part is this dude got kicks and will wear the
Speaker 1: same shoes the whole year. Oh, I know them saying
Speaker 1: black kobes he wore was sponsored by Adas. Put black
Speaker 1: tape over the white. Tell the story reason I got
Speaker 1: in trouble. Tell us Butler got me in trouble. Damn
Speaker 1: what shit I was wearing? I was sponsored by Adidas,
Speaker 1: and I put on some kobes, put tape all around them,
Speaker 1: black it out. So and we're the same ones all
Speaker 1: year hot? How how you do? I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: probably like every three games. But you know I got
Speaker 1: more weight, you know what I mean. It's some black
Speaker 1: me forces tray on the tire. Come on, you already
Speaker 1: wearing the low cut socks, the no show socks. So
Speaker 1: you try to get him in the black mins looks.
Speaker 1: I can't read. I can't. You'll never wear those shows,
Speaker 1: act because I get it. Tell us somebody black man
Speaker 1: is crazy. I'm just saying, if somebody's wearing some low
Speaker 1: top air forces, I am not going near them. They're
Speaker 1: ready to rumble, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 1: like your boys you're talking about. Hoop and air Max
Speaker 1: nineties was insane. I don't know. Anless made it so
Speaker 1: much but I respect I respect it. But yeah, he
Speaker 1: told me because he got beat by the cops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like it's the only shoe that felt good
Speaker 1: on his ankle, you know, yeah, crazy ankle was crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's about that. Damn. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I'll walk that back. But I just thought he would
Speaker 1: just own that, like the no I used to hooping
Speaker 1: like Katie's Kobies, And he was like, man, he's the
Speaker 1: only shoes my ankle could fit in. N if you
Speaker 1: seen walk towards you with a max, that's damn like
Speaker 1: the Black Forces, he gonna ask for a change. You're
Speaker 1: trying to up the blakey on you. But either way,
Speaker 1: you don't want the answer to what he about to
Speaker 1: ask you, what shoes do you hooping? Know me, we're
Speaker 1: working at the sketchule. We're gonna get after this podcast.
Speaker 1: You see right now hooping the honestes last year, I
Speaker 1: hooping some pgs. I usually just find I have Nike
Speaker 1: has like four or five shoes. I find one that fits,
Speaker 1: and I'll get him in all the color of the
Speaker 1: jersey and then that's it. You're rocking the b shoes.
Speaker 1: He ain't plugging with the US. I don't do the
Speaker 1: a's Like he said the same shoe for three years,
Speaker 1: that you can't really rock a big man shoe because
Speaker 1: them look like school busters. And I love and I
Speaker 1: love my dog Joel, but yeah, some shoes are respect it.
Speaker 1: But that's how I felt about you'all a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, y'all trying to bring the ewings back. Y'all
Speaker 1: was on the fucking pocket. I hated that notion. When
Speaker 1: I see everybody words a bunch of you, Jeff, you
Speaker 1: got hit though, so I'm gonna let you out a
Speaker 1: bunch of every he slept on. He was't bad man,
Speaker 1: stop it. What's better? Barkley's Barkley talk about it easily?
Speaker 1: Who even as a big man who got a cold
Speaker 1: shoe like always personally, canna think of that's cold at
Speaker 1: that time period that you would have warred with Shot.
Speaker 1: I can't think of no other bit. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Senders though, Blue was crazy Mexic Seations, one of the
Speaker 1: fire shoes ever. And Barkley's like right below Pindy as
Speaker 1: far as like signature wise, niggas don't talk about it.
Speaker 1: Barkley had that fire. Yeah, but damn not not the
Speaker 1: Joel said, you got hardened too. He ain't gon swing
Speaker 1: the Mate show love man, he got some cold shoes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta switch pre fifteen sixteen. He's fourteen. Damn, that's
Speaker 1: how he'd be getting on bron Semples. You gotta take
Speaker 1: some of his You got it you cold? That was
Speaker 1: a crazy This guy's the worst. You get immature, Nah
Speaker 1: what you usually leave them? And he's still here. I
Speaker 1: mean he got him outside his lock. I'm applying. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me slide. I ain't even wearing fourteen, but I
Speaker 1: got a couple of the pe Kobe Jeffer west Side
Speaker 1: Nigga through. I appreciate he's throwing them out, man, go ahead, slide.
Speaker 1: All right. Now, we're about to put you on the clock.
Speaker 1: You know s. We're gonna ask you a couple of questions.
Speaker 1: You don't gotta spit too long. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: saying this tells how you feel. We're gonna do a
Speaker 1: top five first off, we're gonna talk start off with
Speaker 1: top five your favorite players, oh of all time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta put him in order, but what are
Speaker 1: you fucking with? I definitely gotta go with Michael Jordans.
Speaker 1: That's your top absolutely I respect Yeah. Uh, Kobe Braun
Speaker 1: Uh since me in Indiana and Larry Bird. Oh, you
Speaker 1: don't gotta do that. I'm at four right and uh Curry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Katie. Katie would be in there if I
Speaker 1: didn't have Larry burning there. But I grew up in Boston,
Speaker 1: so damn you had thirty. He drafted me to Indiana,
Speaker 1: so you know he got a special places. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: respect that. Like, what do you what are you frustrated about?
Speaker 1: You just grunted puffing over there needs some extra oxygen.
Speaker 1: Come on, go ahead. He don't respect any other players.
Speaker 1: You don't like the pacers. He's a Larry Bird. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's time to put we can't record on Sundays on
Speaker 1: the board greatly be to be depleted. All right. So
Speaker 1: that's your top five for players, all right? And I
Speaker 1: got top five cities. What's your top five cities? You
Speaker 1: don't been around the NBA? Where's your top five places
Speaker 1: to go out at night? No? I know how to
Speaker 1: road trips will, but ain't got getting into the tail.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying. Toronto is one facts,
Speaker 1: Miami is two facts. Uh, just this don't go on anywhere.
Speaker 1: These three off New York, LA, Phoenix. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he got a nice top. So I'm gonna throw Atlanta
Speaker 1: in there from me. Yeah, product placement. Yeah. I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to really, you know, experience Atlanta, you know, thoroughly,
Speaker 1: because you know, we've either been on the back to back,
Speaker 1: we haven't really had like three four days in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: but I've heard a great things. Y'all be shitty, we'll
Speaker 1: be having no fire as cities and on the back
Speaker 1: to back. Hey play in Minnesota, and we used to
Speaker 1: leave fucking Atlanta so fast I can imagine, because like
Speaker 1: I know, y'all probably can't st talking to too much.
Speaker 1: But can y'all take a letter fly like fron the Palm,
Speaker 1: Like I know, you travel the same, paying nothing when
Speaker 1: you ride free like that, you know, pay for a
Speaker 1: charter when you already got a charter. No way to
Speaker 1: make no sense. But there are some people who do
Speaker 1: shout they checked different. We don't know who that is.
Speaker 1: Check different, all right, So you know what I say.
Speaker 1: So we ain't gonna talk about what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: the off season, but you know we're coming to mind
Speaker 1: as far as what you might do, what you think
Speaker 1: about doing it. You can moving on this too. How
Speaker 1: is it when you like thinking like all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I might want to fuck with this, or I'm looking
Speaker 1: throughout the season like this look cool, like I wonder
Speaker 1: how I feel with this? Now it's more open. You
Speaker 1: got boys, like you said back then you had to
Speaker 1: just deal whatever the fun they said. Now you'll can
Speaker 1: get on the Twitter, but like fuck with this or
Speaker 1: he going crazy over here? Is that looked upon of
Speaker 1: your decision where you're kind of thinking about what you
Speaker 1: might do, or just like I'm just gonna keep in
Speaker 1: the back of my head just in case it becomes
Speaker 1: relevant because a lot of fans on nowhere is talkers
Speaker 1: all the time. Obviously no tampering and ship, but you
Speaker 1: know your agents do that shit for you, Like we're
Speaker 1: joining teams, not even join the team, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad at this, like nothing to a criminate,
Speaker 1: but just like look at situations like that might be
Speaker 1: cool type shit. But yeah, yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: everybody had human Yeah, I mean like you always got
Speaker 1: your own opinion. I mean, for the polically correct crowd,
Speaker 1: I think you should not tweet that I'll keep the
Speaker 1: thoughts to yourself. Yeah, don't be stupid. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think they're guys talk over the summer, what they
Speaker 1: what they want to do. I'm sure there's some recruiting
Speaker 1: going on right now. We'll just have to wait and
Speaker 1: see what, you know, two years from now happens. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be some crazy stuff going on. I
Speaker 1: just hate the bullshit they'd be like, look, y'all, just
Speaker 1: because athletes make good money compared to most people, it's
Speaker 1: still a job. If I'm about to transfer a job.
Speaker 1: Who over there, what's got going on? What's your PTO? Like,
Speaker 1: y'all boss school, they fucking with you. Everybody does that.
Speaker 1: It's just now that's just like, hey, we can do
Speaker 1: this too. Quit trying to put us in the box
Speaker 1: like we weird, Like this is literally our job. Facts.
Speaker 1: I see, I got a question for you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, since as far as his your directory wise,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the next step of his game?
Speaker 1: But you see going crazy for him, don't people? Boys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he never gonna do I under ten? How mean being
Speaker 1: on the other side of the spectrum now, like being
Speaker 1: a player now working in the office. G is one
Speaker 1: of those guys that you you spot out like, man,
Speaker 1: he can help our team be a better player, a
Speaker 1: better team, a better ball club because he does the
Speaker 1: little things. Obviously you can shoot the ball, so he
Speaker 1: knows what he has to do. You just gotta perfect
Speaker 1: those I always tell people, do what you do best.
Speaker 1: Don't start trying to do shit like trying to dunk
Speaker 1: on niggas. Shit. But you keep hitting up quarter three,
Speaker 1: you're gonna walk away. Yeah, well will pay man, that's
Speaker 1: hard man, get to Brits boring all to a go off.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people say, like I mean, being
Speaker 1: the start. Obviously it is a cool thing. But if you,
Speaker 1: like you said, your situation, you came in, regrind and
Speaker 1: rebuilt yourself to the point to where now you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to you know what I'm saying, longevity the league.
Speaker 1: You're doing everything you want to do the right way
Speaker 1: and as far as fun to me, because a lot
Speaker 1: of people be in situations they still like you said,
Speaker 1: you're a seven, shit, you're eight. They might have to
Speaker 1: figure some shit out in the whole situation. Now you're
Speaker 1: in a situation your team contended. It's lit And before
Speaker 1: we get out of here, how is it playing for Doc?
Speaker 1: I always wonder how they's playing for Doc Rivers. Yeah, nah,
Speaker 1: Doc is you know, he's a motivator man. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: he's one of the best coaches to ever you know, coach,
Speaker 1: and he does a great job of just motivating this group.
Speaker 1: And he's he's had so much experience, so he's pretty
Speaker 1: much seen everything you know in the game. So the
Speaker 1: fact that you know, I've been able to play unto
Speaker 1: him for two years has been a super great experience
Speaker 1: for me and it's allowed me to grow as a player.
Speaker 1: But I think the coolest part is he actually is
Speaker 1: still like confidence where some coaches wouldn't do that. He's
Speaker 1: that's important and it don't matter about excess and those
Speaker 1: you gonna go out there and motivated like he's he
Speaker 1: got some of the best pregame, halftime post games, which
Speaker 1: is where you're like, all right, like I run through
Speaker 1: a wall for this dude. He used to be in
Speaker 1: my heads. I'll still hate on Doc Rivers a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it's only because I hate that Boston team won championship.
Speaker 1: It's really not on Doc. It's just I hate that
Speaker 1: team as a whole, Like I love Rondol's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite players, but that team I hate that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: KG was cold, right, Alan was cold with part persons
Speaker 1: cold but together. I hated them. I hated them and
Speaker 1: I hate when I'll be hearing them talking to I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: all right, y'all gotta chip man, but y'all gotta input
Speaker 1: on everything. It's always always Celtic with the input on
Speaker 1: everything on social media. I'm like, yo, y'all can cut
Speaker 1: that shit out, man, because that okay, be here. I
Speaker 1: can't hit on Doc Rivers where I gotta let a slot.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just spoke highly. I ain't talking about Doc.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, ok I gotta let the hate go.
Speaker 1: I'm here you grow baby whatever you won't. But just
Speaker 1: know this is a fucking current player. He's saying great
Speaker 1: things about Doc. With that, that means I gotta keep
Speaker 1: the smugg going by myself. Then fuck it, I'll take
Speaker 1: it off. But hey, we're about to get out of here.
Speaker 1: G appreciate you, my boy man. Check my boy out.
Speaker 1: You know where the fund him at the Philadelphia Players
Speaker 1: on from top t in the corner. Find him in
Speaker 1: the corner shout out to the minivan