1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer I can get 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: fly all my life, all my life. All right, we're 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: back another episode of I'm the host. Nadj wellis my right, 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: young Nacho TI? How you feeling, my boy? I'm good Man. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Got some special people in the building, special people. Know 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. To my immediate left, We're gonna introduce 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: him last as we should do our guests. My father left. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Resident Chef Bishop Grant Leaf, 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: my boy be here. How you feeling cooler? National, Let's 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: get a crack all right, man, I got a special 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: guest him. I let you know what I'm saying. I'm 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead, Latigue, introduce you. You You know what I'm saying. 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: They got a little relationship. They go back a little 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: bit classic. This is my rookie man, my days Indiana, 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, carved out a beautiful career in the NBA. Man, 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: Iowa State legend. M the coolest dudes I know in 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: the NBA. Man, I'm glad to have him on the show. 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: George Niang, appreciate you'all for having me on. Man, it's 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: a blessing. I appreciate you Slide, It's a blessing. He 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: got the pr statements. If we gonna get out of 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: the real quick, don't you work. But if we're gett 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: into the episode, y'all see this on you table, it's 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: real beer. You know what I'm saying. You got some 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: product you want to promote, get out there. We got 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: this one erful laptop. You know what I'm saying. Be him. 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: We tried to get him too, the sketches deal last week. 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: He wasn't fucking with us. You got that ship on 28 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: the day. He's just regular night for you nigs about 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: the door hashtag. It's okay he flecks on the serad. 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Nonetheless, I know what I'm saying, Sketchers, 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Look tea, you might go four million dollars now you 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: ain't doing four meal. Yeah anything, George, you know what 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Wills around upon that a little bit later. 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, you still in the league, my boy. Hey, 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: let's get the show, get to start talking. I like 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: for hearing this vibe. Don't they got the simple water. 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: We had a good episode that. You know what I'm saying, 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: You're in the league still, you know, obviously know what 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you playing shoes deals that night. How much 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Sketchers gotta give you to get the deals to the vibe? Like, 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: what's what's the jumping at You're hopping into the sketches 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: for a meal? Take? Absolutely, yeah, but that's damn that's 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: easy to be here. He was being difficult, you know, 44 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: he trying to give up his his footwear. No, I 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: don't even care about a million dollars. We can talk. 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: I just want to be able to world. I don't 47 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: want to wear to the club and when I'm hanging out, bro, 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I just don't want to on a five twenty podcast. 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: Give me the sketcher whatever shape up the KIMK was having. Yeah, 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave him on life like I got the dunks. 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: We can rock out, but you gotta wear him the club. Yeah, 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: when I'm going out and hanging out with my friends, 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: but I'm not wearing it, bro. So so we're gonna 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: see what's some comments come. Were gonna see how them 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: effects change. Before the episode, I always got to start 56 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: the episode with a Friday Ask question. Obviously, you know 57 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You had a nice journey in the NBA. 58 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: He's still going on right now. But I gotta ask 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: you what's been so far without giving too much details. 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to snitching nobody. What would you say 61 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: your most problematic locker room was so far and you're 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: playing days. You can go from high school to college 63 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: to NBA. Look they laugh already. Oh my god, welcome 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: to five twenty. Yeah, yeah, welcome my most problematic locker room, Dan, 65 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: I would have to say with with with yes, yeah, man, 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: we little go a little We had a funny, a 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: funny group of guys in that locker room. You know, 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: I think it was it was PEG's last year, right, yeah, yeah, 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, mixed between you know, 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: I think there was riff raff for him, you know, 71 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: not wanting to be there. This's that in the third 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: or I don't know what what he was thinking. I 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: was a rookie. I really didn't know anything. But we'd 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: go on like seven game win streaks and eight game 75 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: loosen streaks. I was confused, man, So uh as my 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: first year in the league, you know, we were we 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: were a troublesome group. That was a hell of a 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: year for everybody. It will get into that a little 79 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: bit later. He don't like the paces at all. He 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: has no respect. I am unfortunately doing pictures fan till 81 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: I die. But terres Haliburt and the Savior the guy 82 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: shout out to him out the gate, shout out to 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: the young being Mather too. We were on the way 84 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: like analogy will wish us to the pictures organization. That's 85 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: like you got for it. It's a pr S today. 86 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: That's school. I can get out of pocket. We can 87 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: get it there. So first started off before we can 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: get to that. You know what I'm saying. Obviously we 89 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: know how you would. You know, I'm saying, it's your 90 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: background of basketball. Talk about your high school. That's man. 91 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: You had a pretty goddamn good and you team. You 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, How did that come about? We 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: all went to high school together as me Netherlands Nowell, 94 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Wayne Selden, Jake Layman Man. When you say high school together, 95 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: like y'all went to high school together, y'all like it 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: was like a phone called and we're going to high 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: school together. No, it was. It was a boarding school, 98 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: so you know we were allowed to do that. You 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: know a lot of people said they played high school 100 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: together and they lived on the street. That definitely was 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: not the case. But you know, for for high school 102 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: au we we had a pretty solid team. So when 103 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: you was playing in the summer, obviously I had a whip. 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: And was it a little bit easier for you to 105 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: play high school basketball playing with the town the team 106 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: like that? Like you said, you had a Denver prep 107 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: school y'all playing a crazy schedule as well. How did 108 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: that prepare you to like get into like cogge decisions 109 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: because a lot of times, like Jeffer probably speaking on this, 110 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean he went crazy at you too, but he 111 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: played in the high school where he lived down the 112 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: street front, how do you think it would have been 113 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: different for you probably going up if you went to 114 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: a prep school situation, you think he would have got 115 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: exposure differently? Or now, I wouldn't have made no prep school. 116 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't do that, you can na. I'm a I'm 117 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: a west side baby. I can't do that outside baby, Yeah, 118 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm outside, yall know me? I was outside. I went 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: to every party, I went to everything, boarding school that 120 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: ain't met no uniforms, no way you can. I wore 121 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: white T shirts and rocket worse every day. Yeah, like, 122 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: come on, you had to be real disciplined for that though. 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it made you a better college student. Yeah, 124 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean I guess when you don't know, I wouldn't 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: say you don't know no different like you just you know. 126 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: So for the most part, I mean I was an 127 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: hour away from home, and uh, I mean up there, 128 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: there was no I was like up in the middle 129 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: of nowhere. There was no thought of like, I couldn't 130 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: go act up. There was nothing to act up and do. 131 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: It was gonna do run out in the wilderness. But uh, 132 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: because you're from the Northeast area, yeah, I mean it's 133 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: not for everybody, but I'll tell you this, it does 134 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: keep a lot of you know, you know how how 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: to find a way to avoid trouble. There's some people 136 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: that just walk outside and trouble finds them. So for 137 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: kids like that, I think it's a it's a good 138 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: idea because it'll probably save a lot of kids from 139 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: who get in trouble in high school and can't pursue 140 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: their dreams. Would you had a twenty eleven or twenty 141 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: ten class, No, I was twenty twelve. I was originally 142 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, So in the in the Northeast. It's popular 143 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: to like reclassify. I feel like I thought we were 144 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: like the first ones. Yeah, so I was, so I 145 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: was young for my grade, so twenty I was originally 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: class to twenty eleven and I did two sophomore years. 147 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: So it hurt me in the long run when I'm 148 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: entering the draft and they're like, oh, he about to 149 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: be twenty three, and I was like, did y'all win 150 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: Peach Jam? Yeah? Yeah, how was it? I had a 151 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: whip that was Peach Jam? Was that was the best turn? 152 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: That's the best tournament out Yeah? Yeah, and then you 153 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: see it now it gets all that national that's much 154 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: actually televised. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, Nike 155 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: did a really good job with the E y b L. 156 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: It was like the first year of week first joined. 157 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: But Peach Jam was elite. Who was the toughest matchup 158 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: out there that you can remember? Who was like, damn 159 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: he is nice. I gotta work on my game. I 160 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: gotta get matchup. I don't. I mean, I just remember 161 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: having to play the Saint Louis Eagles when they had 162 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal, Ben McLamore. That was that was crazy. You 163 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: could do because I was like a post guy and 164 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: them dudes were just dancing around the three point line. 165 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: So they were yeah, yeah, oh he did he play for? Yeah? 166 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: They had him Aj Hammond's Uh who else did they 167 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: have had a couple San Thomas? Yeah was nice? They 168 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: was they was cold? Then who was it? Uh? Team 169 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: Takeover had like b j Anya, Jeremy Grant, James Robinson. Damn. Yeah, 170 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: so they every game like eybl was was for real. 171 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: That definitely helped me, you know, just playing against like 172 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: I went to high school in Urlans, also playing against 173 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: him kind of helped me play against like shot blockers 174 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, I could score not at ease, But 175 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: how did you get to Yeah, damn, that's that's actually 176 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: a crazy story. So I didn't have any high major offers, 177 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: I think going into like my junior year and I 178 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: played in the tournament and uh, Fred Hoiberg ended up 179 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: calling me because this prep school we went on like 180 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: a ski trip. So he called me in the middle 181 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: of like me going down the hill tubin or something, 182 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: and I called him back and he wanted me to 183 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: take an unofficial visit. But people don't realize now unofficial visits. 184 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't be paid for it, so like my mom 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: had to like pay for me to go out there. 186 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: I wasna. I was originally gonna visit just the University 187 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: of Iowa, but then I decided to do both because 188 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: they were both recruiting me. So we get out to 189 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Des Moines, and Des Moines is a forty five minute 190 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: drive to Aimes, where Iowa State is, and my mom 191 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: forgot a credit card. So when we go to rent 192 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: a car, they was like, sorry, like, no, can't do 193 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: this is like twelve years ago, and so we had 194 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: to take a cab two Aimes, Iowa. Then my mom 195 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want them to know that I 196 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: forgot my credit cards. So like I'm running across like 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: this bean field to like get to the practice facility 198 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: because they're not allowed to pick you up when you 199 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: off campus and stuff like that. And eventually we had 200 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: to take like a megabus which is two hours to 201 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: get to the University of Iowa. And then and then 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: finally at the mL was like, I'm gonna call a 203 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: car service so we can just get to the airport. 204 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: And then this is in the middle of nowhere, So 205 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: this dude was like, you want the Lincoln or the Cadillac. 206 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: And my mom was like, just whatever, the Lincoln. This 207 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: dude turns out to be like a hoarder. So like 208 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: he just had like trash like in the car, so 209 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: like he was driving like a tuna fish can and 210 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: like slide across. It was a crazy I was like, 211 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: there ain't no way God wants me to go to Iowa. 212 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: The next thing you know, I'm at Iowa State And 213 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: it was because Fred Hoiberg. I mean he was just 214 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: a honest dude. Told me he was gonna let me 215 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: have the ball in my hands, and it was that's 216 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: what it was. From there. That's crass. You might have 217 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: been in Iowa if they had Uber back then to 218 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: lift your college have been totally different. Shouts a home 219 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: boy driving the tune of whip. That's nasty detail. But 220 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: like wow, I would though like those two schools, like 221 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: you didn't like with Bruit Nah, Like bc BC was 222 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: like I remember Wayne Selden got an offer from them, 223 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: and he was like if they offer you, like, I'll 224 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: go there with you. And Steve Donohue, I mean he's 225 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: the coach at Penn. So we've talked because I'm in 226 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: Philadelphia now, but like nobody else was like at that point, 227 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: like that was the first time made school. They were like, ah, 228 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: what position does he play? Like he's not a three, 229 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: he's not big enough to play a four. He don't 230 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: dunk on nobody. Yeah, So it was like Providence came 231 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: in late with like Ed Cooley, but I had already committed. 232 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: Billy Donovan was late. But you know, if I went 233 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: to Florida that I've been all bad, me different. Yeah, 234 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: and then like in the midst of like George Mason 235 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: was another school, but Larnaga took the Miami job, and 236 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: like I said, if I could to Florida, nah, Miami. 237 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: But I didn't really have a position. I didn't really 238 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: like my highlights were nasty, like people like they do 239 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: highlights like me. I like Nike Peach and people like 240 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: I didn't just waste three minutes of my life watching 241 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: jump hucks and it's crazy. You do got a nasty game, 242 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Like it's effective. Yeah it happened, the ball, the ball 243 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: goes in the hoop. Yeah, it's nasty, but effect. I 244 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: used to say that we was in practice with the Pikes, 245 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: which I block his game so ugly, but he's so 246 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: nice though, Like he's the cud. Yeah, what's your goal 247 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: to move though? What you fuck him up with? Shoot? Yeah, 248 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: talking a little bit. I mean I've always had that. Yeah, Jeff, 249 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: you know he got the you know whatever. That looks sweet. 250 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: And then he run you know, he run back. Don't 251 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: have no emotions, just like yeah, you know what I mean. 252 00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: He got a chap stick in his socks. I can't 253 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: chat to Charles Rockley right with your belly button Charles 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: Rockets putting. He put vastling his belly buttons chap and 255 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, that's the nash sh he's out. Yeah, 256 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: that's sick, Chatti. Get the socks though. Nah. But I 257 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: first knowed you when you was at Iowa State. I 258 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: watched all of basketball. I watched college basketball like a 259 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: fan back then, and you were killing but you had 260 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: a rare game like you were doing dribble handoffs, fake 261 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: dribble handoffs, running point, shooting threes. And I'm like, man, 262 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: what I couldn't figure you out. I'm like, how is 263 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: he killings? Moving in slow motion? Yeah? I was like 264 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: a little boris d out. Yeah, you know where It's like, 265 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: I think the college game is so traditional where it 266 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: was like play through the big, like you know, when 267 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: you first got to the NBA, played through the big. 268 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, there was no real like movement where Fred 269 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Hoiberg we played five out. You know, I would make 270 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: I would play center just because I was big enough 271 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: to you know, guard a center back back then and 272 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: then drag them away from the hoop. And they couldn't 273 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: guard me that far away from the hoop. I was 274 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: able to just change direction and dribble, fake handoffs and 275 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: then I could shoot three. So that's uh, that made 276 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: me effective there. But little did I realize when I 277 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: got to the NBA, there was like, uh, cut all 278 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: that ship up, he said. I first, NBA will put 279 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: you in a box, like they want you to do 280 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: one thing. You're gonna do that one thing. So I 281 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: got a question for y'all regarding that. How you think 282 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: is a better situation to go forward with kids? Like 283 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: now it's in prep because like you said, you can 284 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: go to college and do whatever the fuck you want too, 285 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: as long as you found whatever coach you got going. 286 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: But you can get to the league and they can 287 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of like shift your game. Is it more beneficial 288 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: to be like, all right, fun college. I might as 289 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: well go to a G league or be in a 290 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: structured place to where they gonna teach me how to 291 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: play at this level. Or do you want to go 292 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: to college and learn how do you play your own 293 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: game and then just fit in once you get to 294 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: the next situation. Man, that's tough because there's some people 295 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: that you know, they've before they've even gotten to college, 296 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: they've grown to college like so that they need to 297 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: go to like they're they're too talented, they're too big 298 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: of a name, they need to go to the legal league. 299 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: But then there's some guys that think they're too big 300 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: for college that really need to go beat like disciplined 301 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: and learn how to play and you know, learn how 302 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: to grind and actually work before they actually get to league. 303 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: So it's like a person by person basis on that one. 304 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: But I do like what the G league ignite thing does, 305 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: but it also can't hurt guys that think they're better 306 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: than they are. And you get caught taking five hundred 307 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: grand to come out and that's the most money you 308 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: ever see and you don't see that that you show 309 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: what you can't do, and they're like, why would I 310 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: waste time? I'm playing this kid that's real. Like you said, 311 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: you you gotta sell yourself one way or another. I 312 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: know it's a little bit later. Now we ain't gonna 313 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: talk about the past. But you know what I'm saying, 314 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: nil deal how you feel you would have eight? You 315 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I especially what you be. You 316 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the ten year player. You know 317 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: what college basketball loves anybody, classmate, Man, I was all 318 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: those you know, four years in the tournament. The farmer 319 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: money out there I would have had, I would have 320 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: had a good experience out there. But now that I 321 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: think about it, if I had, because I remember when 322 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: I got out of college, I did like a signing 323 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: for like ten grand and I thought I was rich. 324 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I was like, you couldn't tell me. I was driving 325 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: up to North American Minnesota buying true religion, like I 326 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: thought the time period I thought I was living. Yeah, 327 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: that ain't cool to wear that, not the truth? Where 328 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: would you want? Man? Yeah, you don't do that, the 329 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: true religion. Give me a period. When you talked about 330 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: give me a period, trying to give me the true 331 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: religion fit without the uh the nigga that's built like 332 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: me on the front of the shirt. Just give me 333 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: the regular true religion fit. Just now. You don't want 334 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: the boot on your ship, give me a little coastal 335 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: symbol on that bitch. Ain't no little true religious opperside 336 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: of T shirts And like this bit it looked like 337 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: the Lucky Are Cereal box, the gray one. I wore 338 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: it in the summer. That was my biggest mistake because 339 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, it gets hot. It takes me like raise 340 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: your hand. It wasn't the club going crazy. Was so embarrassed, dude. 341 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: I was like, from now on, just black teath in 342 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: the summer. But how was it? Thought? I though? Did 343 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: you have fun? Yeah? I mean so that was kind 344 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: of really like where I enjoyed, like the outside of basketball, right, 345 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: but it wasn't too crazy where like it got out 346 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: of hand, like I could still manage to get controlled. 347 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: But like people out in the Midwest, they just know 348 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: how to drink, man, nothing else to it. There's like 349 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: people that drinking and there's people from the Midwest. They 350 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: just they just we do a little different. Yeah, it's 351 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: like people like I drink. Where are you from out 352 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: the West coast? Nah? You know, k how much love 353 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: you get? I mean, it's still to this day. I 354 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: do a charity golf outing out there, I do a 355 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: basketball camp. I don't do it anything else anywhere else 356 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: because that was like the craziest amount of love that Like, 357 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: that's true. It was wild, and that's crazy. We sitting 358 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: here with two people who could have went to BC. Yeah, 359 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: that's crazy. That would have been elected you and had 360 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: the city going crazy. I was I thought about going there. 361 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: What it targe you the wake visit or just because 362 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: they had another guard coming in. Honestly, my mama had 363 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: a dream, That's really what it was. Damn. She said, 364 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: you gotta go to Wake forest Ship. I had a dream. 365 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: It's less it was over and then let's talk about 366 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So you know what I'm saying, you do 367 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: your thing. Iway stay Now it's time to go to 368 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: the NBA. How was it like the workout process? You 369 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because you were second round pick, 370 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: so I imagine you probably had to do a lot 371 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: more shit than like you know, most people have to 372 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: who going on a couple of top slots. Was it 373 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: more favorable for you or was it like more of 374 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: a stressful time? Like damn, Like I gotta go get 375 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: this ship cracking, Like yeah, I mean to be honest 376 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: with you, you know, my agent had a good plan 377 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: of like what teams he knew, like actually would value 378 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: like what I was, what I brought. And I remember 379 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: my last workout was Indiana, and I just remember him 380 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: he all the other workouts, whether it was like the Clippers, 381 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I forget who else I worked out for, but he 382 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: was like that one like you need, like that's the 383 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: one you need to shill. And I'm like, what are 384 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: you talking about, Like they're about they're trying to trade. 385 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: He's like they might trade that first round pick, but 386 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: they have a second round pick. Da da da. So 387 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: I think I was in there with like Yogi Pharaoh, 388 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Check Diallo, maybe even Bryce Johnson. I can't remember, but 389 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: I ended up playing really well in that workout and 390 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Pritchard I remember, yeah it came and had a 391 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: conversation with me after and I was like, oh damn, 392 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: that went better than all the other workouts. Then you 393 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: get to draft night and I was the best worst 394 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: night in my life. It was fifty picks before you 395 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: That was like four hours of sitting there just waiting. 396 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: It felt like forever and then you know that's when 397 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: you can. I mean, that whole trade happened. He was 398 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: coming in then, so Jeff really kind of stole like 399 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: the limelight because it was like the Indiana kids coming 400 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: back like yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah, we ain't gonna 401 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: talk about fifty. We just got this dude. He chose 402 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: that weekend number. I feel would tell you said you 403 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: was gonna pick fifty. I was gonna where zero, but na, 404 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't giving that up. So I had forty four 405 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: so I can throw a west side elligates. But I 406 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: was just as mad as you. But go ahead. Nah. 407 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you, though, was you thinking 408 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: NBA the whole time or was you like, yo, I 409 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: might have to go overseas or nothing, like, no, I'm 410 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: going to the league. I mean I always like the league. 411 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: Was always like that's where I wanted to go. But 412 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I never was like working 413 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: on like I gotta get to the league where like 414 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: most people do. I was like I'm trying to be 415 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: All American or I'm trying to be you know what 416 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, first Team All American or like a big 417 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Big twelve Player of the Year and then it was like, 418 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: oh shit, your name's on draft boards. Like I was like, damn, 419 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: I could actually because my whole like like if you 420 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: look at my game, like yeah it is nasty, it's effective, 421 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: but like I never really thought because nobody ever gave 422 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: me like the reassurance to be like, yo, you your 423 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: game is league. You know what I mean? Like you, 424 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: it was always like yeah, you nice, like if we 425 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: played at the y MC. I've always been I mean, 426 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: like someone stay true to who he was. But like 427 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: you look at my game now, like you watch like 428 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: college film, I was spin moves up and understil Like 429 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: now it's like catching, shooting and drive and obviously I 430 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: could do other stuff, but you realize, like if you 431 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: could fit a role, there's probably like five to six 432 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: to seven roles on the team. If you could fit 433 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: one of those, you could really like just stick it out. 434 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Like I didn't realize that. Like when I first got 435 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: to Indiana, like I'll never forget, it was preseason and 436 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: I got in and I traveled and I seen Nate McMillan. 437 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: He was walking to like the coach's hudder, and he 438 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: was like someone has to talk to him. He travels 439 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: every time he's about to dribble into my head, I'm like, 440 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: I should just never dribble again, you know what I mean? Like, 441 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: so you gotta find like where you where you really fit, 442 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: and who's going to give you an opportunity to do that? 443 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: Like not throwing shade at him, but it like it 444 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: kind of helped me realize, like, all right, there's some 445 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: things that I could get away with before, but now 446 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: it's like all right now the box of like being 447 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: a corner three point maker. That that helped me just 448 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: stick around long enough to get more opportunities to show 449 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: what else I could do. Who puts you? Like? Who? 450 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: Who got you into that mindset? Though? Because Quinn Snyder, Yeah, uh, 451 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: he's like a I don't know how to explain it, 452 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: but he's like a basketball and yeah, like a mad scientist. 453 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: Like that's like he's just so in depth with his detail, 454 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: you know that. I just remember like he had one 455 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: of the assistant coaches come talk to me. It was like, hey, 456 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: you know, obviously we signed to you, but if you 457 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: want to play, like you have to make that shot 458 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: and not let someone just straight line drive you on 459 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: the other end, all right, just start running to the corner, 460 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: I'll pass it the ball. Corner threes. So literally, like 461 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: my first year when I was with them, all I 462 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: did was just rep out corner threes. And you know 463 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: how the NBA is, like if you don't know who 464 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: a dude is and you out there, the ball gets 465 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: passing on three point line, you're like, man, so if 466 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: you miss, all right, they're gonna keep. But you start making, 467 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: then you start getting reputation like all right, like this 468 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: dude can make shots. And then you know the evolution 469 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: of three point shot and making you know, on the move, 470 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, all that, and then you eventually figure 471 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: out like damn, if I can make three pointers and 472 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: keep guys out of superstars laps when they ice oning, 473 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: that's that's a role, you know, And that's kind of 474 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: like what I've carved out here. And uh, it didn't 475 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: look that promising when I was my rookie year, but 476 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: it took some time to figure out, and uh, I'm 477 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: going this is year seven. So it's crazy. A salute 478 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: to that bro, because the way that you made it, 479 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: like you said, you didn't have a situation where you 480 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: just came in and got drafted. I'm playing and I'm 481 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: here next contract. You had to really grind, and like 482 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: you said, you came into a situation to that shit 483 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: changes a lot of players because you came into a 484 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: votel situation in Indiana where a lot of unmoving parsons 485 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: going on and a lot of things should have happened 486 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. Also, like you said, shout out to 487 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: coast with Milan, but you know where he was at 488 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: with the organization of that and with the players. That 489 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: was all different places. And this is your first experience 490 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: in the business of basketball. That can break a lot 491 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: of people because, like you said, you big toe a 492 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: player of the year, Like you come in like I'm 493 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: used to do whatever I want to and it's like, nah, 494 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: you gotta do this. That breaks a lot of players 495 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, off the sense of I've been doing 496 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: this shit in my whole life and now you're telling 497 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: me how to play. But like you said, you took 498 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: advantage of a situation and you're making a full career 499 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: out of that ship. Now we're talking about the pace. 500 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Who was your fatman? You 501 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: was a rookie? Who was your who was your guy? 502 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: That just the first trip we had, he pulled me aside, 503 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: and you know he was like, listen, you know your 504 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: rookie year is gonna be crazy. But you know I 505 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: got you, Dad. I'm gonna ask you to do a 506 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: couple of things here and the A couple of things. Yeah, 507 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: I remember. One of them was the dove soap at 508 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: the at the every game. I can appreciate that my 509 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: man cares about his hygiene, you know what I mean. 510 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: He wasn't using the week week soap said. He made 511 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: you go get the dove so so every so everything. 512 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: You probably still get the dumb yeah, absolutely, So not 513 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: go go crazy. I don't want to interrupt your interview 514 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: for real. Go ahead. You don't that they give you. 515 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: It was like handsen it like yeah, no, no, like 516 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like it's up on the wall like type. 517 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, my bad. I didn't like he'd 518 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: be like, hey, yo, here's something. You know. I ain't 519 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: gonna go in to detail, but you know, just let 520 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: me every every road game that we have, like can 521 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: I get some some dove soap? You know what I mean? 522 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: So I always carry around like soap. I also had 523 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: to carry around the cards. Uh, got to go. Get 524 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: long has done us. So you know when when some 525 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: of the other events, you know it didn't step up 526 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: to you know what i mean, helped me out. My 527 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: my good man, would you know what I mean look 528 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: out for me and uh but another one and then 529 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: not pay and then not pay you. So that's kind 530 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: of like like a lost art. So when when he 531 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: first was like, yeah, like here you go, like this 532 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: is what I expect out of you, you know what 533 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I'm gonna look out for you if 534 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: you ever had any questions, you know what I mean. 535 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: And from there that was that was the best season, 536 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, I think every 537 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: rookie should have have a vet that actually like looks 538 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: out for them. I mean I think I was the 539 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: only rookie on the team, but he actually like showed me, show, 540 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: showed me the game, you know what I mean, like 541 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: kept it reil and you know that was a rough 542 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: season for me, but you know, my God always always 543 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: kept interesting. Another one was Al Jefferson. I can't forget him. 544 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: He was making me get him a breakfast sandwich before 545 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: every shoot around and Jimmy John's after every shoot around 546 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: with like potato chips and water. And I remember Weir 547 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: was in New York and uh, I ordered like an 548 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: egg sandwich from and they did some fancy like this 549 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: is the Southern dude, so he like wants scrambled eggs, bacon, cheest, 550 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: like just the regular way. Not so they gave me 551 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: like poached eggs and it was like right before the 552 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: bust was coming down. But I ordered the omelet for myself, 553 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, like I got an omelet. But 554 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: so I ended up like cutting half an omelet and 555 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: like tuck the post eggs off, threw it on the bagel, 556 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: put the bacon on it, and like there's some cheese 557 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: on it. Put it together, and I'm walking down because 558 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: whenever like the breakfast sanwich was sucks, he'd be like, yo, fella, man, 559 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: it's the worst shit I ever had. And I'd be like, 560 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: oh yeah. He would be like you the worst rookie 561 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: out and ever had, man like you shout out like 562 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: stupid like that, and he was just joking, but you know, 563 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: after all, you'd be like, damn, I gotta be better. 564 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: So when I'm getting on the bus, I'm like shake. 565 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: He always set in the back, so I walked it 566 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: all the way down in the back and I'm like, damn, 567 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: he definitely gonna know. I cut this off and it's 568 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: like hanging out the big gol like listen. So we 569 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: ride and I remember we're in New York. Were riding 570 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: the shoot around, which is crazy. We had to shoot 571 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: around in New York. That's crazy, sou He's we like 572 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: ten minutes in and he's like, yong fella and I'm like, 573 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: oh shit, like here we go. He was like, this 574 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: got to be one of the best ones ever. Man. 575 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: I was like this, like, you couldn't even make this 576 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: shitt up. But he shout out to big as. He was, No, 577 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: you didn't have to do that. Shit. Do what I'm saying. 578 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: You didn't really have to do that. So shout out 579 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: to YouTube for putting the fourth that man if I 580 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: didn't want, Yeah, he had that motherucker post. Oh my 581 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: mom nah. But George, though you laugh, would you know 582 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: how I was? I was? He was cool. Nobody telling me. 583 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: That's why I asked. I was like, I know some 584 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: of his rookie stories here that school. He took it easier. 585 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: That boy, you had to do so cool. I got 586 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: the best part about his rookie years after our season 587 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: was over, my fat Yeah you could. This is the podcast. 588 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: We don't have to because that interesting. But literally he 589 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: my rookie year after the seasons. We're playing one on one. Yes, yeah, 590 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: this is where my knee problems start. You remember that ship. Yeah, 591 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: I slipped, bro, I'm a free agent. I slipped. I 592 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: banged my knee on the ground. I'm like, oh shit, 593 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: I was so scared. I thought I ended it. I 594 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: thought I looked at him. I'm like, oh shit, I 595 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: got quick playing. I just left. I ain't come back 596 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: to the facility at all. I sucked up my ship. 597 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: My agent called me. I think I sucked my ship up. 598 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: But I had like two or a little piece of 599 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: my niscuits. It was over, damn. But then he still 600 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: had to go collect that. I went through that motherfucking 601 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: drill sh Minnesota. I'm over there. She was hurt, like, 602 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: are you figuring this out? Yeah, they do yours on 603 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: the knee or nothing. I was like, hell, yeah, we 604 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: go sign this motherfucker. Yeah, that's one thing I'll say, 605 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: my nigger, he go gets to that check and I'll 606 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: respect that, no question. So that's you know what I'm saying, 607 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: you go through that first year and then after that, 608 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, take us a little bit through that journey, 609 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: because I'm saying you obviously moved around a little bit. 610 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: He was in the G League. How was it like 611 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: going through that first year in the NBA and they're 612 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: transitioning to the G League and then you end up 613 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: transditioning back out to Utah. But how was that Thompston 614 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: for you? Like, man, that was a humbling experience. That's like, 615 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you I get cut, you know, so you 616 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: hit rock bottom. You're like, damn, but I just mess 617 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: up the only opportunity that I'll ever have to to 618 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: play in the NBA. And and then the best thing 619 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: I did was I was able to sign a exhibit ten, 620 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: which is like you're going down to the league with 621 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, so I could see how yeah, 622 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: so I could see how like k D Steph Clay Draymond, 623 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: how they work like every day. And then to be 624 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: around guys like andre I goodal A, Sean Livingston, like 625 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: you got to see like, so I went from one 626 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: one side of the spectrum to the other where it's 627 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: like they just won a championship and so just to 628 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: see how they had a daily routine. I think that 629 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: was the biggest thing for me, is just you know, 630 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: you can't just work on the days that you feel 631 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: like work. And it was more or less that, you know, 632 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: you gotta do it everywhere every day and get a 633 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: little bit better every single day. So obviously that was humbling, 634 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, being there and being in the G League 635 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: having to start making you go. I think I made 636 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty my rookie year, and then my 637 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: checks every two weeks were like nine hundred dollars because 638 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: I was making twenty five grand in California, damn and 639 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: a Cruise Warriors. That's when it was like, all right, 640 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: I better make I better make this shakeout or you 641 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't got no other choice. 642 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: So obviously the G League is a it's the same game, 643 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: but it's totally different. You can get away with, you know, 644 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: over dribbling and stuff like that. But it allowed me 645 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: to show what I really was doing in college at 646 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of the NBA level. And then I got that 647 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: two way contract, which rather than having to be on 648 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: a ten day which is I can't imagine the pressure 649 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: to do is on a ten day, got a field, 650 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: so then I was allowed to like you know, play 651 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: the rest of the year on a two way. Obviously 652 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: he got practice time, you know, summer league, and I 653 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: had a good summer league and I ended up getting 654 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: signed as like one of the fourteen fifteenth man. And 655 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: the thing that saved me was Tabo Cephalosha had got 656 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: suspended for five games. Yeah, so they had to play 657 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: me in like spot minutes and I made shots for 658 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: five games. He came back played over me, but I 659 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: ended up getting back in the rotation and from there 660 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: on how it was. And that's real, breaking a rotation. 661 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: Like I always say, it's like as much as people 662 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: talk about athletes and like how much they get paid, Yeah, 663 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: but you couldn't imagine like people grind up for them 664 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: to days. You gotta make the most out of nothing 665 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: because you ain't getting too many opportunities borrowing somebody getting 666 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: crazy injured. You probably not gonna shoot the ball that much. 667 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: You gotta do something in that time period for a 668 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: team to be like, hey we got to keep him around. 669 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: Why are they looking at eight other different prospects. But 670 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: like you said, you made that shit happen. Got there, 671 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: got the All Star got it cracking. And then you 672 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: get to Utah and know what I'm saying with coach Schnyder, 673 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: how was that because you was a Utah when Utah 674 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: and what I'm saying had like a revamp. You know 675 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You got you got Rudy. How was 676 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: that experience? Like getting back nickname? Oh wow, I was 677 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna bring that up. Now he had a fire nickname. 678 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: See here you go. What that's the g wagon it 679 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: went for mini Vintag told me to talk about I'm 680 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: talking about nah. So I was. I was out the 681 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: rotation and we was beating Brooklyn like bad, and they 682 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: subbed me in the game and I had a chance 683 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: to go up and dunking, you know, like them the 684 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: rim grade is like barely over the rim. So Joe Ingoes, 685 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: who's like the king of talking shit on the team, 686 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: was like, man, what the heck was that? I was like, whoa, whoa, Listen, 687 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm not like a Ferrari like the rest of y'all. 688 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: More like a minivan. I need a couple of apps 689 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: around the block five get the top speed and then 690 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: the silar reports like the minivan. I love that. And 691 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: then I was screwed after that if you would have 692 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: went to the rucker there like the minivan, Yeah, like escalade, 693 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When I heard it, I 694 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: was like, they call you the minivan. Yeah, this dude 695 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: was talking when I was shooting threes in the corner, 696 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, trying to make a living. This dude was 697 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: on the bench like yo, No, he was like you 698 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: made that. I knew you was gonna look at me. 699 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: That's why it was so fun. Compete that gets him 700 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: because it's like somebody you watched go through it and yeah, 701 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: it's like damn, he having his moment and he was killing, 702 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: mocking shoot. And like you said, your time is impeccable 703 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of people come in the league different 704 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: times to where your specialty may expire in two years. 705 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: You can't in a situation to where it now the 706 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: premium the most important position. Like you look at guys 707 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: like Doc and Robinson, k Robinson, I've had a ship 708 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: telling them to do one thing and now they're kind 709 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: of like, where really fuck with that? But he hit 710 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: at the right time. My god. As you can get 711 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: a test to free agency matters about timing out, about 712 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: situation timing and you in a perfect a perfect situation 713 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: right now, boy, and you go are better than what 714 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: they give you credit for our times like yo, And 715 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: that's that's another thing that I want to talk about. 716 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: Let him know. The perception is crazy. You got a 717 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: little yeah, because at the end of the day, someone 718 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: will look at someone that looks like they can defend, right, 719 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: but someone will drive past them four straight times and 720 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: they don't even you know what I mean, don't even 721 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: bad eye. But if someone go by me, oh look 722 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: at them, look defend That's what I mean. Yeah, I 723 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: would never defender though. Yeah, but you know what it 724 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: was is like because you have like the emotionless face 725 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: that people didn't think that you cared right. So like 726 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: he would even tell me on the bench watched this 727 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: like he'll go go throw a lob and be like 728 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: and coach, be like just in the game today, Like 729 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: what because yeah, for real? But he'd be doing the 730 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: same stuff like dropping down and be a nice pass 731 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: lay up and be like he look look at him, 732 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: Look he looks like he's sleep out of there. Like look, 733 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you want him? Like that? Like 734 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: that was never you, but he he knew you knew 735 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: how to play the game, and now that I'm seven 736 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: years in, I know exactly. So would you call yourself 737 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: an elite defender? Uh? I mean, Okay, here's what I'm 738 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna say. I feel like there's guys that get picked 739 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: are you know in the playoffs, are like that guy's 740 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: in every Like I'm doing two things. I'm talking crazy 741 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: shit and I'm just gonna be ultra physical, like you 742 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to have me just fouled, like you know 743 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like you're gonna have to 744 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: hit tough contested jump rover. You're not just gonna and 745 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: then like think you're just driving by me, Like if 746 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: you drive by me one time, it's like, you know 747 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: exactly where Like these other guys that are out there 748 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: that get picked on, they're like they don't want to 749 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: touch nobody up. Yeah, No, it ain't sweeting. We ain't 750 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: switching for y'a. So how was it like when you 751 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: had to leave Utah? Was it bitter sweet dad? No? 752 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: I mean that hurt. I mean that really hurt. Like 753 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: that was like the first time where I felt like 754 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: I really like earned earned my roster, spart earned to 755 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: be there, and it was like, yeah, like we we 756 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: signed Rudy Gay, Like you know, we're going in a 757 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: different direction, and you know, I'll never throw shade on 758 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: another player, but obviously you look at other people and 759 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: where they are in their career, like Rudy Gay has 760 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: had a hell of a career. But in my mind, 761 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, but like what I did, 762 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: Like I shot forty percent, like you know what I mean, 763 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: I came in, never complained and like that was just 764 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: taking for granted. But you know, like it up once 765 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: you left, like because it seems like that was all 766 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: like super cool, like even seeing y'all after the game, like, yeah, 767 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: was a cheesecake factory and shit, I'm like that's the 768 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: only place I could go for real. Ru Rudy was 769 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: there temporarily, he was trying. He still there, but I'm 770 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: just saying I just felt like they probably I don't 771 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: think that was really where he probably wanted to go 772 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: at first though you think really wanted to be there. 773 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean shit, I mean, I mean you go where 774 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: the money. I mean, you go where the money goes. 775 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: But so like you when you're like when you're a 776 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: free agent, you're thinking like if the team sign signed 777 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: someone that kind of does the same thing that you 778 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: do for more money than where you're making. They chose 779 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: him over you, so I had to go find another place. 780 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which that was like damn, So you didn't 781 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: really value what I did. You felt like you had 782 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: to go get someone else to do something that I 783 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: did and think they're gonna do it better. So that 784 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: was my first time and that I never had free 785 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: agency where teams were like, hey, we're asking about you. 786 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, damn, like that 787 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: that really Like that was one where when I got 788 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: to Philly, I was like, damn, I I missed Utah, 789 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: but I know they don't really care about me. And 790 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: then when you play alongside like two superstars that like 791 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: demand like double teams and stuff like that, you like, shit, 792 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: I thought I was opening Utah, but yeah, even like 793 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: I just double team, try to trapping. I hope he missed, 794 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Like you know what, I'm getting wide open shot after 795 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: wide open shot, and it's it was. It was a 796 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: blessing because I didn't think it was a blessing in 797 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: the beginning, but it really helped, like helped me show 798 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: the NBA or other gms like how much more I 799 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: have to offer in my game if I'm given the 800 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: opportunity and you own a team that's highlighted in the 801 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: last everybody's seeing you every week. Yeah, you think it's 802 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a difference, but you think it's 803 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: a really big difference, like when you and them smaller 804 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: market teams, Like even if you're going crazy, yeah for sure, 805 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: look at Dave Millard ye talk about it. It It should 806 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: have been an all star off the jump. But like 807 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: being in Sacramento, it's like even though they're playing good 808 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: as hell this year and it's yeah, yeah, they still 809 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: they're like third in the West, and they still don't 810 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: even get like they gonna around get to two seed 811 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: and they still don't give a shit and they haven't 812 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: made a playoffs in fifteen years. Like the bean Man, 813 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: they was it was due, They was due for a 814 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: good year. Yeah, but I mean what you mean there 815 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: was dude, They was due seven years ago. They was 816 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: doing year. They ain't been good since Baby was there. 817 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: Come on, man, that what they're doing over there, that's 818 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: real effort. It's not just the luck, you know what 819 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: I mean. Damn, I ain't saying it was luck. I'm 820 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: just saying it was like it's just supposed to. Yeah, 821 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that ain't no they were sketchers. You'd 822 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: be like, nah, they ain't doue that bullshit. All I'm 823 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: saying is they they are good team here. They had 824 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: every fucking draft pick since my fucking ninety seven. So 825 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: you first draft first round, you do for a good 826 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: season and disrespect him marpen Backley, but boarded they fuck 827 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: up that draft that was supposed to get them back 828 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: by sill over there no after body had the picks 829 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: on the draft. Shout out to my nigga. The bris 830 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: Cousins fuck the same time. So now blodie out of there. 831 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: See you go. That's why they made it. You play 832 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: with two, you know what I'm saying, Hollo tanem so 833 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: far in your career, I gotta ask you. I think 834 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: obviously we know where you're going with this, But what's 835 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: the difference between playing with Donovan and Rudy and the 836 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: difference between playing with Hardening and b Oh? I mean 837 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: and b demand though I do it for you, bro, 838 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: he demands double teams. Rudy didn't demand no double Yeah. 839 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like Rudy is like think about who we 840 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: had like in Utah, right, like we had all a 841 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: like six eight you know, not really NBA athletic like 842 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: shooters like Royce, Nio Joe and Goes Boy. Yeah, we 843 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: even had Mike Conley. So I mean quins Steiner was like, hey, 844 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: worst comes to worst, just press up into your guy, 845 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: stay on his hip, going to the rim rudy, you 846 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like at the end of the day, 847 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: I remember sometimes just guided my guy and the rudy 848 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: and then just falling right off into the big like 849 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: he gonna either block. It effected like you're going full speed, 850 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: gotta shoot over a seven two shot blocker. It changes 851 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: the game and we're taking away the three point line, 852 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: I mean defect. Like, so we were allowed to play 853 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: defense a crazy way which didn't give any teams advantage. 854 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: Like if you wanted to beat this, you would have 855 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: had to make like twenty five mid range jump shots 856 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: at like a fifty percent clip, which is like unheard of. 857 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: And then you you know, Donovan was so athletic, dynamic, 858 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: like he just creative out there, like you've seen him 859 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: last night. He hits someone with a sham guy and 860 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: then a pull up three like you know what I mean, 861 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: And then he's just he's just he was something that 862 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: we didn't have. We always you know, I hate to 863 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: say unathletic, but like to the NBA standard of like, 864 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: so none of us had the ability to like really 865 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: go buy anybody. And Quinn's a mastermind at creating advantages. 866 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: Then you have Donovan and someone that could play one 867 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: on one. So it's like two different dynamics because now 868 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm playing with guys that don't need any action, like 869 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: they all go get a bucket regardless from the other 870 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: side of the core in the corner being double team 871 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: like we played last night. I don't know when y'all 872 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: gonna art, But against the Bucks, I mean, James, we 873 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: was down fifteen points going into the fourth quarter. It 874 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: was like James Harden was like, all right, come on, 875 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, lay up, three step 876 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: back and next thing, you know, you like like Jayalen 877 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: McDaniel said to me, he was like, oh we win it. 878 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Like this dude just really just 879 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: put the team on his back. And I mean it 880 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: did just two different people, but the dynamic dude of 881 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: Joel and and James, I don't know, I don't know 882 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen a pick and roll tandem like 883 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: that in this error of the game with switching because 884 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: you can't switch, like were you gonna put your big 885 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: on James, because we're you gonna do, put your the 886 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: guard that's guarded on Joel like it's over, and then 887 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: you surround that with shooting, you know what I mean, 888 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: That's how you get some chicken and in that way, 889 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: like you said it regardless and if you don't cover, 890 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna get free throws. And I asked a question 891 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: because people, as much as I'm not the biggest Rudy fair, Yo, 892 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: his defense changed a lot. Like so being able to, 893 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: like you said, close out and send somebody to the 894 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: room can't be just effective. It's being able to throw 895 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: the ball in the post if you playing the right 896 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: way right, No, you you ain't lying. I mean. The 897 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: thing about Joel is that you want to come double team. 898 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: He has that mid range where he'll just shoot over you. 899 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: Elite you see teams just get discouraged because they come 900 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: to double and he's looking and shooting right over you, 901 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: whereas like Rudy, it's more of like a lob threat. 902 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: But on the defense event, he's he's stopped another team 903 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: from scoring twenty easy thirty easy points because they ain't Jilly. 904 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: You know, Jill, you're thinking about that shit for you 905 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: coming to back. Come on, I remember we played, remember 906 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: what he was in India. They're like, go bear, I 907 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: remember dan Bert, Go bear. If you go in there, 908 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: just think about it, whether if you're gonna kick out 909 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 1: or try and shoot a layer, because damn, his blocks 910 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: turn into like they're like turnovers for us. They're leading 911 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: the fast break points for them. And like you said, 912 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: that's a part of the getting that people don't really 913 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: put together. Like like you said, a quick little contest 914 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: or a block is a layup on the other ear. 915 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 1: It's just an effect of getting that bitch in the posts. Also, 916 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: James Hard boss here, I don't, I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, 917 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: James Hard not gotta at absolutely like for no reason. 918 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: I understand every about respected those who had good years. 919 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: I shot down't nobody, but James Harden was cooking two 920 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: eleven and seven. Give somebody else, Just give somebody else. 921 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: He's a hitter. That's just what it is. It's an 922 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: equal opportunity. If anybody else had this stet line, but 923 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: the Max do talk about it, but it's crazy. I 924 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: got a question, though, what are you listening to game day? 925 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: You got some music that gets you together or you know, 926 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: obviously being in Philly, you know Meek Miller eventually comes on. 927 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: But you know who I really really been listening to 928 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: his NBA Young Boy, Yes, my CEG. That's why I mean, 929 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 1: so I don't So here's the thing. It's like where 930 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: I've come, where I've come from. I can't really say 931 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: that I really, you know, understand something he's talking about. 932 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: But it's okay. I'm here to god. When I heard 933 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: you fuck with NBA with your boy to your boyfar 934 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: that one, I ain't gonna lie, bro, that shocked me. No. 935 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's not like like it's one of those 936 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: things that I'm listening to on a constant basis. But 937 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: his music definitely gets me me hype. That's what's something. 938 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: I remember what he was listening to because we had 939 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: a whole argument last week about NAS and I just 940 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: refused to believe that he had one of my playing 941 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: your locker room. But I was getting ready for a game. Respectfully. 942 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: He was a great teammate, you know, who you put 943 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: me on though, okay, which helped me. You know, ladies 944 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: out there, Eric Bellinger, come on man, yeah yeah that's 945 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 1: a good one. I ain't knock us. We be added 946 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 1: about music. That's a good one. Yeah. So I didn't 947 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: know nothing about it. He was like, Yo, you got 948 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: this one in head, played this for you? So who 949 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: do you he put you on? Eric B? But who 950 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: who you fu with on R and B side? Though? 951 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: Did he the R and B guru? Uh? Debatable? I 952 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: mean I'm very I like, uh genuine, but see but 953 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: you gotta understand, like, so I'm mixed. I'm mixed, right, okay, 954 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: So like that that side that you know what I mean, 955 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: that side where you're talking about like like someone had 956 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: a cookout, Like I ain't really got too many of those, 957 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: I respect. I got the flow, you know what I mean? 958 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: So I'm still being put on too, you know what 959 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm Okay, I gonna sit up here and lie to 960 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: you and make up something that I never want to 961 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: be you. I got the girl. What's what's y'all doing? Utah? Though? 962 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: Like off the court, what did y'all do? Like for 963 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't playing? It was actually cool because it actually 964 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: gave me like time to just not feel like, you know, 965 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: you're in the city where there's do you like, I 966 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: gotta be doing something like the views. It was cool, 967 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: there was there's good people out there. But I was 968 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: never in a rush to like try and go meet 969 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: up at dinner or I just it was just slow paced. 970 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: So it was more or less just chill. I mean 971 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: there was like rooftops that you know had, I mean 972 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: simple stuff, nothing that you you know, No, I was 973 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: just wondering. I ain't never kicked in Utah, so I 974 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: always yeah, yeah, I mean there's park City is when 975 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: there's sundance out there. There's there's some good times to 976 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: remind you, Iowa no dispectful. We just talking about recruiting 977 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: that I I was flat so like you, I had 978 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: like mountains and I'm talking about the vibe, vibe like 979 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: because drinking wasn't really so now you and Philly. You 980 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, how is it going outside? And 981 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: Philly like, how's that can Rodder? You know what I'm saying. 982 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: You're in the locker room with the homies and you're 983 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: stepping out as this before we go down after a game. 984 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: What is the what are the fans because I've been 985 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: to Philly and they getting their ass kicked boom brutal 986 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: let me talking like yeah, like I remember, like you 987 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: might have to pull the clip on this one. But 988 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: we played Denver and it was like Joel's first match 989 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: up against your kitchen. They was going like they was 990 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: necking MVP right and he kicked it to me in 991 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: the corner and we was down three. Jamikah Green blocks 992 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: my three. I get the rebound back. We're still down three. 993 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: There's like three seconds left, but I had like a 994 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: I gotta just score quick, you know what I mean. 995 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: I just got my ship blocked, so i'd rather than 996 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: kicking it out the tyres, actually I shoot a floater. 997 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: Time ends we lose. This is like doctors like what 998 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: the man. I'm walking off the court, They're like, you 999 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: fucking suck of that song. I'm like, damn. So I'm 1000 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: driving driving up, you know, because there's like a ramp 1001 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: to like get out and then so I'll never forget this, 1002 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: like people know, like your car after out there, like 1003 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know why we signed your batucking like no, 1004 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: it's it was. It's crazy, but I can appreciate it 1005 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: because they actually care, you know what I mean, where 1006 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: it's like I wouldn't want to go to a place 1007 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: where it's just like you know what I mean, where 1008 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: I have to stay in field like every night, like 1009 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: you see people in there who are like it's a 1010 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: blue collar you know city where it's like I'm an electrician. 1011 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: I make eighty K year if I'm going to a game, 1012 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like I put a lot of my 1013 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 1: hard earned money, and it's like I want to see 1014 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: you play your best, you know what I mean. I 1015 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: can appreciate that, and it definitely makes you want to 1016 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: be prepared when you get out there, like you ain't 1017 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: going out there like I don't know if I got 1018 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: it tonight, not at home. At least you ain't the 1019 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: Philly fans stretchers, the motherfucker's blue Santa Claus I speak. 1020 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm saved g because 1021 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: obviously the professionally he's a Sixers organization players right now. 1022 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: But Eagles fans, y'all fucking sucked. They are probably the 1023 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: worst fan base. I speak for me, I know he 1024 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: going to the crib. Oh, I'm happy they flew where 1025 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 1: they flew to right back in that cage the Eagles. 1026 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: What I'm hurts he's the guy. I respect that a lot. 1027 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: He cold, but the Eagles niggas. They don't get no 1028 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: player around here. But like you said, how was it once? 1029 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: You know, I say what you deal with Utah? Now 1030 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: you were Philly A little bit different of a vibe 1031 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 1: stepping out, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I VP 1032 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 1: candidates and your team. I'm sure going out was probably 1033 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more lit there it was in Utah, 1034 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine. Yeah, I mean we have a good 1035 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: time as a team. You know, obviously New York's made 1036 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: up the street if anything, but Philly is uh. They 1037 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: definitely show love and we definitely have people on the 1038 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: team that you know, you know how to have a 1039 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: good time, that's for sure. Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely. 1040 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta kick back, relaxing, enjoy yourself every 1041 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: once in a while. You can't be always up tight. 1042 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm fucking oh oh you was here with 1043 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: team You're a nasty nigga. J Well, the time I 1044 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: got talking about what was you outside here? I know 1045 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: you was here for a year, but it was revel 1046 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow about yeah, what was uh they had with 1047 00:52:54,520 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: like under the bridge catileg wrench Ye, Jeffery, have you 1048 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 1: taken off too near? Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good time. 1049 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: I seen him in here, it'd be like it's row 1050 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: Hill man, it'd be a lot of mixed, mixed motherfuckers 1051 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: experience in any sometimes he's crazy, crazy crazy. I'm just 1052 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 1: saying there was like, okay, this motherfuck he didn't take 1053 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: you to the trench like it was it was it 1054 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: was and though yeah, tremors and all that ship was gone. 1055 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah you went in there, you probably he was probably 1056 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: in that motherfucker jumping with arms in the area. That's 1057 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: what you think crazy. Don't let him patient with you now. 1058 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: But he didn't take you know where where it was 1059 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: really like happening. Yeah, you ain't going a couple blocks 1060 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: away for long. I've been what's the place across the 1061 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: street that longs you went to the icon? Yeah, I'm 1062 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: custu man. Okay, lets the boat, baby, Okay, y'all retarded 1063 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: being so much trouble man. I'm just like, what's the 1064 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: difference between your team this year and last year? Like, 1065 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I got I was I 1066 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: did like some radio showing on that text that yeah, 1067 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: you're like hilarious, but it was like the way I 1068 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: said it was like you have a roster, like when 1069 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: someone takes like a max contract, if like he was 1070 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: beneficial for us, like get in there and passed, like 1071 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like when I'm when 1072 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: I signed to come there, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, 1073 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 1: this is perfect, like another big guard that can get 1074 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: into lane and loves to pass, Like how many more 1075 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: open shots am I gonna get? And then when you 1076 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: decide like like so the team doesn't get anything from that, 1077 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 1: I'm not playing, Like so now you gotta start from 1078 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 1: like minus thirty three million, like that's tough, and everybody 1079 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 1: knows like he wasn't just getting traded head up, you 1080 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,959 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So now when you thinking about 1081 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 1: stuff you can't control you out there like damn, like 1082 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: am I playing too well? Like am I going to 1083 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: get attached on to him to get these as? Then 1084 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: you twitter the worst thing because you know you're going 1085 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: to Sacramento? Are you going to Detroit? Are you going 1086 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: to you know what I mean? You like, dang, I 1087 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: just got here, like like I'm just getting acclimated and 1088 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,240 Speaker 1: then when you trade for someone you know as dynamic 1089 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: and prolific as James Harden, I mean, you gotta like 1090 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: change the way you do things because like he has 1091 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: to fit you know what you're doing. So we didn't 1092 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: have enough time to really get that rolling. I think 1093 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,240 Speaker 1: this year we've had time him to like build chemistry 1094 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: and see what we like and what we can be 1095 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: better at. And it obviously took us a little bit, 1096 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: but I think you could when you'll watch, you could 1097 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: see glimpses of like, oh damn, like they for real. 1098 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: And then there's other times where you're like, all right, 1099 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: they still got they still got some ship to figure 1100 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: out before they are are really good to you. Bro 1101 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: ye got hurt oh Man twenty five in the first half. 1102 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 1: I think that little injury kind of setting back a 1103 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,919 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I mean I think when you play 1104 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: with and you have that much athleticism, when you have 1105 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,879 Speaker 1: something like that mentally, I mean you would No, I've 1106 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: never I've done moved fast enough to but yeah, for sure, 1107 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: and then you know the adjustment of coming off the bench. 1108 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: But now he started, I think he's damaging like twenty eight. Yeah, 1109 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I know, y'all went through like that 1110 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: little moment. Oh, ye got hurt the first time we 1111 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: got hurt and it was like damn because James was 1112 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: out too. Yeah James, And was it Joel for a 1113 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 1: little bit too with his knee or something. Yeah, we were, 1114 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: we was fighting. I remember we was doing Charlotte and 1115 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: lost to them, So that was damn. Shout out to 1116 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,879 Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets. I can't wait till y'all geme, like y'all 1117 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 1: start to get everybody. Yeah, yeah, how you like playing 1118 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: with my dog? PJ? Shout out to PJ. PJ Tucker Man, 1119 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: he's got to be top top three, top top two 1120 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: teammates of all time, like just a if you go 1121 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: on a ward, you want that guy on your team 1122 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: and he won the best dude, one of the best. 1123 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: Super shout out to PJ man. You already know super 1124 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: cool you Yeah, Like he's like the prototype of your game. 1125 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: Like when you look at a player, you'd be like, Okay, 1126 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: can he be PJ Tucker? Yeah, And that's what you're 1127 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: probably not for sure. Well before that, it was like 1128 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: Jared Dudley, Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, he 1129 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: had a long PJ play. What's his like eight, it 1130 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: was like sixteen sevent. Yeah, now you're doing it right. 1131 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: And that's the far thing, you say, like to see 1132 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: somebody create an avenue and see somebody flourishing. It's just 1133 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: like I can keep doing this another ten years because 1134 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: what I do is still important, right. No, I think 1135 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: the coolest part is like I think as an og 1136 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: like he sees people are coming up in his shoes 1137 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: and the like, you know kind of school you to 1138 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: the game. And I know this is year seven for me, 1139 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 1: but I still have a lot to learn in the fact, 1140 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's won a championship, he's been to the 1141 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: Mountain tips, so you know, telling me on how to 1142 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: prepare for certain games or what to do leading up 1143 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. He's huge. He's a huge contributor on 1144 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: our team. So pause, I'm about to go. I was 1145 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: about to be like, see you will of to day. 1146 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what we're immature over here. We're not 1147 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: gonna go about like you gotta be his teammate to 1148 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: realize how many fucking shoes. No, even then, you have no, 1149 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: you have no like here I thought it was bad. 1150 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: Like so he has his locker in the pax facility, 1151 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: and then he has like a whole area gotta be 1152 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: like ten by ten with like shoes like on shoes 1153 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 1: like this, but a whole lockers feel. Then you got 1154 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 1: the locker room at the arena that got like a 1155 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: whole other locker with just like the boxes of like 1156 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 1: some more shoes. And then he got like a whole 1157 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: like thinking about them laundry buckets he got them and 1158 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: just shoes like whatever. And then there's the back equipment room. 1159 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,439 Speaker 1: It's crazy. People have told me he has like a house. 1160 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: Whenever you bring it up to him, he'd be like, 1161 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm been there, it's crazy. He'd be like these ones. 1162 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: I got these ones like twelve years ago. I might 1163 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: wear it every night. I'm gonna wear He switched his 1164 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 1: shoes like four or five times. He has like two, 1165 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: you know the sixteen shoes back. He got like two 1166 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: of those on the road. He don't play. You gotta 1167 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: like be his teammate, realize that shit. Yeah, they didn't 1168 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: explain it to people. They people be looking at me 1169 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 1: like I'm crazy when I tell the story, like this 1170 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: nigga got shoes and you got kicks. And the crazy 1171 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: part is this dude got kicks and will wear the 1172 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: same shoes the whole year. Oh, I know them saying 1173 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: black kobes he wore was sponsored by Adas. Put black 1174 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: tape over the white. Tell the story reason I got 1175 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: in trouble. Tell us Butler got me in trouble. Damn 1176 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 1: what shit I was wearing? I was sponsored by Adidas, 1177 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: and I put on some kobes, put tape all around them, 1178 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: black it out. So and we're the same ones all 1179 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: year hot? How how you do? I don't know, man, 1180 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: probably like every three games. But you know I got 1181 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: more weight, you know what I mean. It's some black 1182 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 1: me forces tray on the tire. Come on, you already 1183 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: wearing the low cut socks, the no show socks. So 1184 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: you try to get him in the black mins looks. 1185 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I can't read. I can't. You'll never wear those shows, 1186 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: act because I get it. Tell us somebody black man 1187 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: is crazy. I'm just saying, if somebody's wearing some low 1188 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: top air forces, I am not going near them. They're 1189 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: ready to rumble, you know what I mean. And that's 1190 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: like your boys you're talking about. Hoop and air Max 1191 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: nineties was insane. I don't know. Anless made it so 1192 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: much but I respect I respect it. But yeah, he 1193 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 1: told me because he got beat by the cops. Yeah, 1194 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 1: so it's like it's the only shoe that felt good 1195 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: on his ankle, you know, yeah, crazy ankle was crazy. 1196 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's about that. Damn. I mean, I guess 1197 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: I'll walk that back. But I just thought he would 1198 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: just own that, like the no I used to hooping 1199 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 1: like Katie's Kobies, And he was like, man, he's the 1200 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: only shoes my ankle could fit in. N if you 1201 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: seen walk towards you with a max, that's damn like 1202 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the Black Forces, he gonna ask for a change. You're 1203 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: trying to up the blakey on you. But either way, 1204 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: you don't want the answer to what he about to 1205 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: ask you, what shoes do you hooping? Know me, we're 1206 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: working at the sketchule. We're gonna get after this podcast. 1207 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: You see right now hooping the honestes last year, I 1208 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: hooping some pgs. I usually just find I have Nike 1209 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: has like four or five shoes. I find one that fits, 1210 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: and I'll get him in all the color of the 1211 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: jersey and then that's it. You're rocking the b shoes. 1212 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: He ain't plugging with the US. I don't do the 1213 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: a's Like he said the same shoe for three years, 1214 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 1: that you can't really rock a big man shoe because 1215 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: them look like school busters. And I love and I 1216 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: love my dog Joel, but yeah, some shoes are respect it. 1217 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: But that's how I felt about you'all a couple of 1218 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 1: years ago, y'all trying to bring the ewings back. Y'all 1219 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: was on the fucking pocket. I hated that notion. When 1220 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 1: I see everybody words a bunch of you, Jeff, you 1221 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: got hit though, so I'm gonna let you out a 1222 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: bunch of every he slept on. He was't bad man, 1223 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: stop it. What's better? Barkley's Barkley talk about it easily? 1224 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Who even as a big man who got a cold 1225 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: shoe like always personally, canna think of that's cold at 1226 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: that time period that you would have warred with Shot. 1227 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: I can't think of no other bit. I'm talking about 1228 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Senders though, Blue was crazy Mexic Seations, one of the 1229 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: fire shoes ever. And Barkley's like right below Pindy as 1230 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: far as like signature wise, niggas don't talk about it. 1231 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Barkley had that fire. Yeah, but damn not not the 1232 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Joel said, you got hardened too. He ain't gon swing 1233 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: the Mate show love man, he got some cold shoes. Yeah, 1234 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: you gotta switch pre fifteen sixteen. He's fourteen. Damn, that's 1235 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: how he'd be getting on bron Semples. You gotta take 1236 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: some of his You got it you cold? That was 1237 01:03:54,240 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 1: a crazy This guy's the worst. You get immature, Nah 1238 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: what you usually leave them? And he's still here. I 1239 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: mean he got him outside his lock. I'm applying. Okay, 1240 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: let me slide. I ain't even wearing fourteen, but I 1241 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: got a couple of the pe Kobe Jeffer west Side 1242 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Nigga through. I appreciate he's throwing them out, man, go ahead, slide. 1243 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: All right. Now, we're about to put you on the clock. 1244 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: You know s. We're gonna ask you a couple of questions. 1245 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: You don't gotta spit too long. I don't know. I'm 1246 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: saying this tells how you feel. We're gonna do a 1247 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 1: top five first off, we're gonna talk start off with 1248 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 1: top five your favorite players, oh of all time? Yeah, 1249 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: you ain't gotta put him in order, but what are 1250 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 1: you fucking with? I definitely gotta go with Michael Jordans. 1251 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 1: That's your top absolutely I respect Yeah. Uh, Kobe Braun 1252 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: Uh since me in Indiana and Larry Bird. Oh, you 1253 01:04:53,080 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: don't gotta do that. I'm at four right and uh Curry, 1254 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Katie. Katie would be in there if I 1255 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't have Larry burning there. But I grew up in Boston, 1256 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: so damn you had thirty. He drafted me to Indiana, 1257 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: so you know he got a special places. Yeah, I 1258 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: respect that. Like, what do you what are you frustrated about? 1259 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: You just grunted puffing over there needs some extra oxygen. 1260 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Come on, go ahead. He don't respect any other players. 1261 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: You don't like the pacers. He's a Larry Bird. Yes, 1262 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 1: it's time to put we can't record on Sundays on 1263 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 1: the board greatly be to be depleted. All right. So 1264 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: that's your top five for players, all right? And I 1265 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: got top five cities. What's your top five cities? You 1266 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: don't been around the NBA? Where's your top five places 1267 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: to go out at night? No? I know how to 1268 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: road trips will, but ain't got getting into the tail. 1269 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying. Toronto is one facts, 1270 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Miami is two facts. Uh, just this don't go on anywhere. 1271 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: These three off New York, LA, Phoenix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1272 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: he got a nice top. So I'm gonna throw Atlanta 1273 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: in there from me. Yeah, product placement. Yeah. I haven't 1274 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 1: been able to really, you know, experience Atlanta, you know, thoroughly, 1275 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: because you know, we've either been on the back to back, 1276 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: we haven't really had like three four days in Atlanta, 1277 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: but I've heard a great things. Y'all be shitty, we'll 1278 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: be having no fire as cities and on the back 1279 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: to back. Hey play in Minnesota, and we used to 1280 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: leave fucking Atlanta so fast I can imagine, because like 1281 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 1: I know, y'all probably can't st talking to too much. 1282 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: But can y'all take a letter fly like fron the Palm, 1283 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Like I know, you travel the same, paying nothing when 1284 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: you ride free like that, you know, pay for a 1285 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: charter when you already got a charter. No way to 1286 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 1: make no sense. But there are some people who do 1287 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: shout they checked different. We don't know who that is. 1288 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 1: Check different, all right, So you know what I say. 1289 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: So we ain't gonna talk about what I'm saying in 1290 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: the off season, but you know we're coming to mind 1291 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 1: as far as what you might do, what you think 1292 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: about doing it. You can moving on this too. How 1293 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: is it when you like thinking like all right, cool, 1294 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: I might want to fuck with this, or I'm looking 1295 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 1: throughout the season like this look cool, like I wonder 1296 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: how I feel with this? Now it's more open. You 1297 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 1: got boys, like you said back then you had to 1298 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: just deal whatever the fun they said. Now you'll can 1299 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: get on the Twitter, but like fuck with this or 1300 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: he going crazy over here? Is that looked upon of 1301 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: your decision where you're kind of thinking about what you 1302 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: might do, or just like I'm just gonna keep in 1303 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: the back of my head just in case it becomes 1304 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: relevant because a lot of fans on nowhere is talkers 1305 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: all the time. Obviously no tampering and ship, but you 1306 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: know your agents do that shit for you, Like we're 1307 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 1: joining teams, not even join the team, Like you know, 1308 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad at this, like nothing to a criminate, 1309 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 1: but just like look at situations like that might be 1310 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 1: cool type shit. But yeah, yeah, I mean I think 1311 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: everybody had human Yeah, I mean like you always got 1312 01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: your own opinion. I mean, for the polically correct crowd, 1313 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: I think you should not tweet that I'll keep the 1314 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 1: thoughts to yourself. Yeah, don't be stupid. Yeah, but you know, 1315 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: I think they're guys talk over the summer, what they 1316 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: what they want to do. I'm sure there's some recruiting 1317 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: going on right now. We'll just have to wait and 1318 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 1: see what, you know, two years from now happens. Yes, sir, 1319 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be some crazy stuff going on. I 1320 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: just hate the bullshit they'd be like, look, y'all, just 1321 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 1: because athletes make good money compared to most people, it's 1322 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 1: still a job. If I'm about to transfer a job. 1323 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: Who over there, what's got going on? What's your PTO? Like, 1324 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 1: y'all boss school, they fucking with you. Everybody does that. 1325 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: It's just now that's just like, hey, we can do 1326 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 1: this too. Quit trying to put us in the box 1327 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: like we weird, Like this is literally our job. Facts. 1328 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I see, I got a question for you know what 1329 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, since as far as his your directory wise, 1330 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 1: what do you think is the next step of his game? 1331 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: But you see going crazy for him, don't people? Boys? Yeah, 1332 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: he never gonna do I under ten? How mean being 1333 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: on the other side of the spectrum now, like being 1334 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: a player now working in the office. G is one 1335 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: of those guys that you you spot out like, man, 1336 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 1: he can help our team be a better player, a 1337 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: better team, a better ball club because he does the 1338 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: little things. Obviously you can shoot the ball, so he 1339 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: knows what he has to do. You just gotta perfect 1340 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: those I always tell people, do what you do best. 1341 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: Don't start trying to do shit like trying to dunk 1342 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: on niggas. Shit. But you keep hitting up quarter three, 1343 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna walk away. Yeah, well will pay man, that's 1344 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: hard man, get to Brits boring all to a go off. 1345 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: That's a lot of people say, like I mean, being 1346 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 1: the start. Obviously it is a cool thing. But if you, 1347 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 1: like you said, your situation, you came in, regrind and 1348 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 1: rebuilt yourself to the point to where now you're gonna 1349 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: have to you know what I'm saying, longevity the league. 1350 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 1: You're doing everything you want to do the right way 1351 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 1: and as far as fun to me, because a lot 1352 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 1: of people be in situations they still like you said, 1353 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: you're a seven, shit, you're eight. They might have to 1354 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: figure some shit out in the whole situation. Now you're 1355 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 1: in a situation your team contended. It's lit And before 1356 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: we get out of here, how is it playing for Doc? 1357 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: I always wonder how they's playing for Doc Rivers. Yeah, nah, 1358 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Doc is you know, he's a motivator man. I mean, obviously, 1359 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 1: he's one of the best coaches to ever you know, coach, 1360 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: and he does a great job of just motivating this group. 1361 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: And he's he's had so much experience, so he's pretty 1362 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 1: much seen everything you know in the game. So the 1363 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: fact that you know, I've been able to play unto 1364 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,919 Speaker 1: him for two years has been a super great experience 1365 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,160 Speaker 1: for me and it's allowed me to grow as a player. 1366 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: But I think the coolest part is he actually is 1367 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: still like confidence where some coaches wouldn't do that. He's 1368 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 1: that's important and it don't matter about excess and those 1369 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 1: you gonna go out there and motivated like he's he 1370 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 1: got some of the best pregame, halftime post games, which 1371 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: is where you're like, all right, like I run through 1372 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: a wall for this dude. He used to be in 1373 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,600 Speaker 1: my heads. I'll still hate on Doc Rivers a little bit, 1374 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: but it's only because I hate that Boston team won championship. 1375 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: It's really not on Doc. It's just I hate that 1376 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: team as a whole, Like I love Rondol's one of 1377 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: my favorite players, but that team I hate that. Yeah. 1378 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 1: KG was cold, right, Alan was cold with part persons 1379 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: cold but together. I hated them. I hated them and 1380 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 1: I hate when I'll be hearing them talking to I'm like, man, 1381 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: all right, y'all gotta chip man, but y'all gotta input 1382 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 1: on everything. It's always always Celtic with the input on 1383 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 1: everything on social media. I'm like, yo, y'all can cut 1384 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 1: that shit out, man, because that okay, be here. I 1385 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: can't hit on Doc Rivers where I gotta let a slot. 1386 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you just spoke highly. I ain't talking about Doc. 1387 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, ok I gotta let the hate go. 1388 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm here you grow baby whatever you won't. But just 1389 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: know this is a fucking current player. He's saying great 1390 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 1: things about Doc. With that, that means I gotta keep 1391 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,639 Speaker 1: the smugg going by myself. Then fuck it, I'll take 1392 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,640 Speaker 1: it off. But hey, we're about to get out of here. 1393 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: G appreciate you, my boy man. Check my boy out. 1394 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,719 Speaker 1: You know where the fund him at the Philadelphia Players 1395 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 1: on from top t in the corner. Find him in 1396 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: the corner shout out to the minivan