Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren z Ema coming to you from
Speaker 1: the home office in Austin, Texas. Elsie, Happy first first anniversary.
Speaker 2: Wow, I feel like I'm on a high right now.
Speaker 2: If I sound high, I guess I am. I'm just
Speaker 2: tired and feeling romantic, and maybe that's a high. We've
Speaker 2: just arrived home from an absolute surprise by you, Chris Harrison,
Speaker 2: for me, and I'm so grateful and feeling so blessed.
Speaker 2: And this past weekend went by in a blur, almost
Speaker 2: on the level of the world that was our wedding,
Speaker 2: because that felt like it went by too fast, too
Speaker 2: good things always do, Basically everybody, Chris Harrison and I
Speaker 2: had this agreement.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's a married couple's word for a gentleman's agreement?
Speaker 3: Had an agreement? Yeah, did you lie to me? I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Being a little bit, I fudged there. I played in
Speaker 1: the gray areas when you are in a relationship, when
Speaker 1: you get married, you will have this, especially if you've
Speaker 1: been in a relationship for a while, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: these negotiations if you will. It's about what we need
Speaker 1: to come up to come up with a good word
Speaker 1: for this because everyone who's let me just tell you
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, because you've been there, and that
Speaker 1: is when you're married, it's like, babor, we do anything
Speaker 1: for anniversary? Are we going to do anything for each
Speaker 1: other's birthdays? Are we doing? What are we doing? Especially
Speaker 1: when you have kids? What are we doing for each
Speaker 1: other for Christmas this year? And you make an agreement,
Speaker 1: a marital agreement of no, we're not you know, let's
Speaker 1: do cards, let's not do presents, let's do small presents,
Speaker 1: let's not go crazy.
Speaker 3: So Chris to me, yeah, and was that Okay, that's
Speaker 3: the question. Everyone, Please let me know.
Speaker 2: We agreed that we weren't doing any thing for this
Speaker 2: first anniversary. And that might sound wild, but we are
Speaker 2: going to Portugal together in a few weeks and that
Speaker 2: was our anniversary trip. It was our We never did
Speaker 2: a honeymoon, and now we're doing one trip that was
Speaker 2: going to be the big moment, which I still think
Speaker 2: it is, but we I thought that was when we
Speaker 2: agreed we were celebrating our first anniversary.
Speaker 1: The devil's in the details. We said, let's not get
Speaker 1: each other presence. We didn't say let's not do anything.
Speaker 1: What we said was, hey, babe, can we agree we're
Speaker 1: not going to get each other presents?
Speaker 3: WHOA, Okay, so you're I wasted.
Speaker 1: You come from a family of lawyers, so the devil
Speaker 1: is in the details, as your mom and your brother
Speaker 1: have taught me.
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, I got all this. I got to
Speaker 3: take this in. You're right.
Speaker 2: We did agree no presence, and we didn't agree no
Speaker 2: secret surprise trip planning, which is what this wonderful man did.
Speaker 2: He gave me a card about a week ago. I
Speaker 2: walk into the bathroom and there's a card on the counter,
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, maybe he's just writing me a
Speaker 2: nice note. But it gave me a card. I opened
Speaker 2: it and it said surprise. We are going to Napa,
Speaker 2: where it all began, for our first anniversary this weekend.
Speaker 2: All will be revealed. All has been planned by me.
Speaker 2: Happy anniversary, no details. What a sweet, wonderful man. And
Speaker 2: so I was super excited and incredibly surprised. You've never
Speaker 2: surprised me on this level. I had no inkling, I
Speaker 2: had no hint you were planning this trip. I had
Speaker 2: no suspicion. I was completely floored, and so I tip
Speaker 2: my hat to you, sir.
Speaker 1: It is incredibly hard being married to Angela Lansbury and Colombo.
Speaker 1: She comes from a family of lawyers, she is astute,
Speaker 1: she is smart. It is so impossible to get any
Speaker 1: thing by you. This was I mean, I had to
Speaker 1: go deep state fake here with trying to keep things.
Speaker 1: I'm booking flights. Here's the thing too. Technology makes things
Speaker 1: very difficult because as soon as I book a flight
Speaker 1: for Lzi, it'll pop up in her app. As soon
Speaker 1: as I do a lot of things, you start getting correspondence,
Speaker 1: you start getting emails and text messages from restaurants, from
Speaker 1: you name it, and so I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: there's alerts throughout your life. Now you can't just call
Speaker 1: somebody or send a carrier pigeon.
Speaker 2: You know what else is hard to the texting, Like
Speaker 2: if you told me now you've now revealed that you know,
Speaker 2: we might be texting a friend over here, and you
Speaker 2: had to and this person about it side text and.
Speaker 3: Hey, don't mess up when you say anything, and I.
Speaker 1: Guess we're remiss. The reason I said happy first first
Speaker 1: anniversary for those that didn't know, Lauren and I look
Speaker 1: If it's good enough to do once, let's do it twice.
Speaker 1: We got married twice. I highly recommend it if you
Speaker 1: want to do two weddings, because at this point in
Speaker 1: your life, do what you want. Have fun. So our
Speaker 1: first wedding was October fourteenth of last year. That's the one,
Speaker 1: a very small, quaint wedding we had in Napa Valley.
Speaker 1: So this was our happy first first anniversary.
Speaker 2: Are we going to celebrate too every year? I think, yes,
Speaker 2: they enjoy life?
Speaker 3: Why not exactly?
Speaker 2: So Chris took me back to Napa where we got married,
Speaker 2: where we also got engaged. And what was incredible too,
Speaker 2: was that you had these surprises revealed along the way.
Speaker 3: We landed there on Saturday, and I never.
Speaker 2: Expected this again, it didn't even cross my mind. You
Speaker 2: took me to a place the two of us have
Speaker 2: always wanted to go, a restaurant that I think is
Speaker 2: on a lot of people's bucket list because it's maybe
Speaker 2: it's one of the most famous restaurants in the world
Speaker 2: and maybe the most famous restaurant in America, The French
Speaker 2: Laundry in Napa, and.
Speaker 3: We pulled up.
Speaker 2: Our flight was two hours late, so in very I
Speaker 2: guess rom com date movie fashion carry. We both had
Speaker 2: to change in the airport. So we left the Sacramento
Speaker 2: Sacramentar airport. All you told me was to dress really well.
Speaker 2: So I'm in like a velvet black dress. You're in
Speaker 2: your wedding suit walking out of the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Luckily we had like we weren't in like hats, and
Speaker 1: you know, we hadn't gone like full I.
Speaker 2: Did my makeup in the airport bathroom. Shout out to
Speaker 2: the young woman I met who also had to do
Speaker 2: her makeup in the airport bathroom. She was already to
Speaker 2: a girls trip in Phoenix. I hope you had a
Speaker 2: great time. I told her to go out in Scottsdale.
Speaker 2: We were chit chatting about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in our layover, you're like, look, I was like, babe,
Speaker 1: we're going to be cutting it close now because I
Speaker 1: was doing the math in my head, and our plane
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, our layover kept getting delayed and delayed, and
Speaker 1: so You're like, I'm at least going to go put
Speaker 1: a lash and some makeup on. So you did a
Speaker 1: half makeover will make over in Phoenix without getting changed.
Speaker 1: And then when we landed in Sacramento, we went to
Speaker 1: baggage claim. We were waiting on our bags. We both
Speaker 1: sprinted to bathrooms and I put on my wedding suit.
Speaker 3: I had never seen an airport bathroom before.
Speaker 1: I'd never seen a bathroom I saw.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm changing all over.
Speaker 1: So if somebody walked into the bathroom and a couple
Speaker 1: of people did, uh, well, sorry for what you saw.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, my my bag's open displayed everywhere,
Speaker 1: and I'm like changing and I'm hopping around because you
Speaker 1: know how you're also trying not to touch the bathroom floor.
Speaker 1: Oh I do. It's a real balancing act.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing I do, because I've had to
Speaker 2: change in bathrooms many time for work with ET. You
Speaker 2: keep your shoes on and then you like, as you're
Speaker 2: taking your clothes off, you you step like a leg
Speaker 2: out of a pant back into the shoe like you're always.
Speaker 1: I was wondering what you did. I balance on top
Speaker 1: of my shoe, so I'm standing on top of the
Speaker 1: shoes and.
Speaker 3: I'm always standing on top of the shoe. We did
Speaker 3: the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, my foot's not going on Okay, my
Speaker 1: foot yeah not going back. Yes, it's stand on.
Speaker 3: Your own shoes. Yeah, be on your own item.
Speaker 1: At one point, I'll admit I did lean to the
Speaker 1: starboard side in my and I'm not going to touch anything.
Speaker 1: So luckily I was near a wall and my head
Speaker 1: went into the wall. So I don't know if that's better.
Speaker 3: I'm okay to lean into a wall. It's the floor
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: All I think about is like that, it's so much
Speaker 2: other people's pee on the floor.
Speaker 3: And no, no, no.
Speaker 2: So another travel tip, always carry So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: We rarely check bags, but for this trip we did.
Speaker 2: But in your carry on you must always have your key,
Speaker 2: toiletries and an outfit change. And like if you need
Speaker 2: an outfit for that day or the next day, I
Speaker 2: always put that in my carry on. Even if I'm
Speaker 2: checking a bag, I operate as if that check bag
Speaker 2: might be lost, and I put like the next two
Speaker 2: days key things in the carry on.
Speaker 1: Just anyway, And even though we got our bags, we
Speaker 1: were able.
Speaker 2: To change in the vacuum before we went to get
Speaker 2: those bags at baggage quick so Superman.
Speaker 1: In the Lower Sla came out of the phone booth
Speaker 1: we were changed.
Speaker 3: Uh, we did look a lot better.
Speaker 2: We go to the French we we get in the
Speaker 2: car and I don't know where we're going, and we
Speaker 2: pull up and we pull up to the French Laundry
Speaker 2: and Wow, what an experience. I've never had a better
Speaker 2: service experience at a restaurant. I can't believe it took
Speaker 2: us this long to get there. Because you've actually known
Speaker 2: the very famous chef, chef Thomas Keller for a while, right, Yeah, we've.
Speaker 1: You know, our paths across because we used to he
Speaker 1: plays a lot of golf, and we've ended up vacationing
Speaker 1: in the same area and we've spent some time together.
Speaker 1: So I've known him, kind of known him for probably
Speaker 1: over a decade now, and he is such a gentle soul.
Speaker 1: It's very off putting because you think you know most chefs.
Speaker 1: You're thinking, like, I don't know Gordon Ramsay and people
Speaker 1: screaming in the kitchen and what.
Speaker 3: Well, I think is secretly a nice guy, Yeah he is.
Speaker 1: But you know, Thomas is such a soft soul, and
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: That was reflected in the restaurant.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing I was surprised about and I hadn't,
Speaker 2: like obviously, I to know we were going, so I'd
Speaker 2: done a lot of googling, but I do know of
Speaker 2: the French laundry. But I think I had this idea
Speaker 2: in my head like maybe it's from shows like The
Speaker 2: Bear or Chef's Table on Netflix, that it would be
Speaker 2: very like, this is.
Speaker 3: Our incredible food and you are lucky to even be here.
Speaker 1: You're going to take what you get and a lot
Speaker 1: of Michelin. So French laundries three Michelin stars has been
Speaker 1: for forever. It's which is astounding. And yeah, actually, by
Speaker 1: the way, Thomas Keller was in The Bear. He had
Speaker 1: a great camera.
Speaker 3: Was he nice on the show? Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: He was kind, he was playing, Yes, he did. He
Speaker 1: played himself and he was the wise kind of old
Speaker 1: sage and not to say you're old Thomas, but he
Speaker 1: was the wise sage for the Bear in the in
Speaker 1: the in the show. But yeah, and it's it's it's
Speaker 1: been on my bucket list for a long time. And
Speaker 1: you and I have had Thomas Keller meals before. We've
Speaker 1: been to events where he's cooked, and so we've been
Speaker 1: around Thomas, but we've never been to his you know,
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, his French laundry, and so it was something
Speaker 1: that's been on my list for a long time that
Speaker 1: I've this culinary experience I wanted to enjoy with you.
Speaker 3: It's cool to do.
Speaker 2: Something with you that you've never done before, because sometimes
Speaker 2: those experiences in places specifically are a little hard to
Speaker 2: find because of the show. Like you've been so many
Speaker 2: places and you've done so many things through the Bachelor
Speaker 2: that I like when we give experienced something for the
Speaker 2: first time together. So yeah, the service was just so
Speaker 2: incredible and so surprising that their whole mentality there is
Speaker 2: actually the opposite of what you might think. It's we
Speaker 2: are so grateful you're here. We know this is a
Speaker 2: special experience for you. When they asked us, do you
Speaker 2: guys have any dietary restrictions or anything we'll need to
Speaker 2: change on the menu, I.
Speaker 3: Never thought they'd asked that question. And they let you
Speaker 3: change a few things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they And you know there's you and I have
Speaker 1: talked about this before, and I've said this before about
Speaker 1: the way you treat people and you meet them. If
Speaker 1: someone comes up in the airport, the next person comes up,
Speaker 1: and you've now you've met five hundred people in one day,
Speaker 1: and how you treat everybody the same because when you
Speaker 1: meet that next person, that's their first experience, that's their moment.
Speaker 1: When I was hosting Millionaire, I always you know, you
Speaker 1: did seven shows a day, the seventh show needed to
Speaker 1: be as good as the first because that was their moment.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Thomas Keller has created a culture
Speaker 1: at French Laundry where everybody that walks in that door,
Speaker 1: whether you are the they've been there. They're celebrating their
Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary, and so they treat us on year thirty
Speaker 1: just like someone who's been there on year one. We felt,
Speaker 1: you know, the door's open, it's warm, it's welcoming. They
Speaker 1: know this is your experience. People are flying from around
Speaker 1: the world to go through this journey with them. To
Speaker 1: borrow a phrase from myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about you because you've always told me
Speaker 2: that that if you know, if somebody comes up and
Speaker 2: wants a picture at the airport that day, no matter
Speaker 2: how tired you are or whatever, you always want to
Speaker 2: make it a great moment for them. And that's how
Speaker 2: the restaurant felt. They have a signature Shromsburg champagne made
Speaker 2: only for them that you're greeted with when you come
Speaker 2: audit from You have this incredible I have to go
Speaker 2: back and look at the menu, but what do you
Speaker 2: think it was fifteen course meal? Yeah, and every course
Speaker 2: was different and delightful and beautiful and delicious, and it
Speaker 2: really and I mean the service is to the level
Speaker 2: that when I went to go to the bathroom, I
Speaker 2: don't know how, but there was a waiter waiting there
Speaker 2: and opening the bathroom door just for me.
Speaker 3: It was such a symphony.
Speaker 1: I think they're very intuitive, like they they've watched the
Speaker 1: Symphony so many times that they kind of know intuitively
Speaker 1: what you're wondering, what you're going to ask, where you're
Speaker 1: going to go, and they and it's not in your face,
Speaker 1: you know. I always said, it's kind of like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I's trying to think of just certain hotels
Speaker 1: or whatever where just the service is impeccable where it's
Speaker 1: not in your face, like oh my gosh, I get it,
Speaker 1: but it was intuitive where it was just where you
Speaker 1: needed it and just where you wanted it. And I
Speaker 1: was trying to I've thought about this meal a lot,
Speaker 1: and the food aside. The food is brilliant. The food
Speaker 1: is you know, is a vision and it's creative and
Speaker 1: exploratory and all that, but I was trying to think
Speaker 1: what was the whole experience, because that's what a Michelin
Speaker 1: rated restaurant supposed to be. And I felt like I
Speaker 1: went to a great museum and I was experiencing a
Speaker 1: part of an exhibit. Is that does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Like, because it's art?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was because it's not just about the food.
Speaker 1: And that's that's hard to explain because you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I just went to a restaurant. It's about the food.
Speaker 3: No, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: And also I think because you feel you're kind of
Speaker 2: a part of history there. You're a part of American
Speaker 2: culture there.
Speaker 1: You feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he that restaurant came up, you know, in
Speaker 2: the nineties and this time when these incredible chefs were
Speaker 2: trying and exploring new things in America. I think in
Speaker 2: making global news for the first time.
Speaker 1: Especially in a place in Napa, Wa. Isn't Napa yet,
Speaker 1: Thomas Keller took a leap of going into Napa thirty
Speaker 1: years ago. Napa was not the you know sweet spot
Speaker 1: it is now like such such a tour.
Speaker 3: It was still coming up. Yeah, and he probably helped
Speaker 3: cement it.
Speaker 2: I mean sure, but he's part of that legion of
Speaker 2: if you're you know, a food person like Charlie Trotter
Speaker 2: out of Chicago and Grant I forget his last name,
Speaker 2: who started a linea.
Speaker 3: In Chicago and all these Lagasi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these like the chefs were really make like making
Speaker 2: global noise from America, I think for the first time,
Speaker 2: and probably maybe a little in the eighties, but definitely
Speaker 2: in the nineties, especially because of TV too, to.
Speaker 1: Do it on the West coast because New York huge,
Speaker 1: you're your hometown of Chicago, because of Charlie Trotter was
Speaker 1: thrown on the map. You know, going west of the
Speaker 1: Mississippi River was quite wild. Going out west, not just
Speaker 1: a Los Angeles or San Francisco, but to the small
Speaker 1: cow town yeah, Napa Valley.
Speaker 3: You know, we should look up how we wound up
Speaker 3: in Napa.
Speaker 1: And then you know, the late nineties is when you know,
Speaker 1: Cabernet really did blow up and you know, like the
Speaker 1: ninety seven Vintage and all that, but he was there
Speaker 1: doing it in the nineties. That was that was pretty
Speaker 1: wild and I you know, I've never had that conversation
Speaker 1: with him, I need to of that was a leap
Speaker 1: of faith you took to open up there.
Speaker 2: Well, I would highly recommend the French Laundry. It is
Speaker 2: a once in a lifetime I mean, if you can
Speaker 2: afford to do it, more good on you. But if
Speaker 2: you have someone who you really love, who really loves food,
Speaker 2: and there is a special occasion, it is so unexperienced
Speaker 2: you'll never forget.
Speaker 1: Two more things I want to say about it. Number One,
Speaker 1: the staff, God bless you. Thank you for such an experience.
Speaker 1: But what I loved is, you know you and I
Speaker 1: love to talk to people. We love to talk to
Speaker 1: the chefs, We love to talk to the Samalia the ways.
Speaker 3: Thank you to Nicole and Ian yees Yeah, Ian.
Speaker 1: And Nicole was awesome. But what I loved is when
Speaker 1: we I talked to him, how long have you been
Speaker 1: at you know, French Laundry? And they had all been
Speaker 1: there for quite some time. Well, Ian was somewhat new,
Speaker 1: Nicole had been there a while, and they were both
Speaker 1: they realized they were on the mountaintop. It was not
Speaker 1: lost on them that they were at French Laundry every day.
Speaker 1: And they were so grateful to Chef Keller, and they
Speaker 1: were just kind of busting at the seams talking about
Speaker 1: their experience at French laundry, Like it's just as important
Speaker 1: to them that they are there and it wasn't lost
Speaker 1: on them, which that made me feel even more excited
Speaker 1: that they get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems like he's really doing it right too.
Speaker 2: Like we found out that he I mean, we got
Speaker 2: to go see the kitchen and the wine cellar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was such a great community in those spaces, and
Speaker 2: thank you to the staff for letting us see inside
Speaker 2: your world. But we found out that Chef Keller, you know,
Speaker 2: he has housing for everybody across the street from the restaurant,
Speaker 2: and he's really taking care of his employees. And I
Speaker 2: wish I'd taken a picture of There was a quote
Speaker 2: up in the kitchen about taking care of the guests,
Speaker 2: and it was, yeah, just so beautiful and thoughtful, and
Speaker 2: you felt like you were really part of that family
Speaker 2: for a night and oh my gosh, we go in
Speaker 2: the kitchen and they had I guess every night they
Speaker 2: do this, they have a different quote they print out
Speaker 2: on the counter.
Speaker 1: For the night, under the menu for the night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they had a picture of you and a
Speaker 2: quote from you, and that was so cool. I could
Speaker 2: you lit up like a Christmas tree. I think everybody
Speaker 2: listens knows this that you love what you do. You
Speaker 2: love your job. Probably after that you love sports casting
Speaker 2: and maybe the weather. But then you love food and
Speaker 2: you love learning about food and watching chefs work.
Speaker 3: So I could that was a really cool moment.
Speaker 1: I was speaking a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you to the staff for being so
Speaker 2: thoughtful with us. Couldn't recommend French laundry more. After that,
Speaker 2: the surprises kept coming. You took me back to the
Speaker 2: hotel where we stayed at for our wedding last year,
Speaker 2: to the One Full Archer, which is right in the
Speaker 2: heart of downtown Napa. It's such a great location if
Speaker 2: you want to check out Napa, such a great place
Speaker 2: to just like because you can stay there and walk
Speaker 2: and go get a great coffee and a croissant. But
Speaker 2: also it's well located to different you know, obviously wineries
Speaker 2: you want to go see.
Speaker 3: And that was so fun to be in that same room,
Speaker 3: in our same room.
Speaker 1: I ran it all back. It was it was really
Speaker 1: it hit me when I walked in our room just
Speaker 1: because I remember, like we had the clothes wreck and
Speaker 1: your wedding dress was in the corner, and you know,
Speaker 1: we put out, you know, our rings and the watches
Speaker 1: and the safe and so it was just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, everything just kind of came back. The nostalgia
Speaker 1: was already there just one year later.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't know I agree, and I didn't
Speaker 2: think about this until we were until we did this weekend.
Speaker 2: I would recommend going back to where you got married
Speaker 2: so much, because one, it helps bring back memories in
Speaker 2: a sensory ways you just said. But two, I remember
Speaker 2: so much about that weekend and it was so perfect
Speaker 2: and so joyous. But no matter how much try to
Speaker 2: take it all in, you are doing so much when
Speaker 2: you're getting married, saying hi to people, getting ready for this,
Speaker 2: going to that, that it just moves quickly. And so
Speaker 2: to be back in the room, I actually felt like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're enjoying this.
Speaker 3: We're really enjoying the hotel room.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Last year it felt like, you know, it was a
Speaker 2: great room, but like we're here to get ready to
Speaker 2: go to the rehearsal.
Speaker 1: Dinner and now this this, and now we're running in
Speaker 1: and out so much separately because like I'm going to
Speaker 1: go see my girls, I'm going to go see my parents,
Speaker 1: make sure they're okay, and so yeah, you're hosting. We
Speaker 1: were hosting an event out of our room, and so
Speaker 1: we were in and out so much and it was
Speaker 1: just hectic, and so this was just us and it
Speaker 1: was quiet and it was slower. Yeah, we have to
Speaker 1: drink it all in literally literally.
Speaker 2: So we're back at the Archer and then the next
Speaker 2: morning you just had a couple cool tastings set up.
Speaker 2: We got to go and meet a wonderful family called
Speaker 2: the Servantes fans of.
Speaker 1: The Savants family out of Mexico City.
Speaker 2: And they have a beautiful vineyard in Napa and they
Speaker 2: were making some gorgeous cabernet and sauvignon blanc and they
Speaker 2: literally let us eat lunch with them as a family
Speaker 2: and meet their grandkids and they were such a beautiful
Speaker 2: They are really what I think of as the best
Speaker 2: part of Napa. Like you can go and see a
Speaker 2: really well known vineyard and see their process and that's
Speaker 2: one experience, and it's really like all the bells and whistles,
Speaker 2: Or you can go with a local family who's making
Speaker 2: this a family business and really be part of their
Speaker 2: world for a minute, and that's very cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of the things, you and I both.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we both love that. You know, we
Speaker 1: are much more about the people make the experience, and
Speaker 1: that's what you remember. And you know, I'll always remember
Speaker 1: about this trip. Adding another family to our list of friends.
Speaker 1: And they were they were sitting there, as you said,
Speaker 1: with you know, the mom down to the grandkids and
Speaker 1: just eating their food on their porch at their family home.
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. And we went to a game.
Speaker 3: Their wines were spectactical.
Speaker 1: All their wines are incredible. We went to a damas
Speaker 1: Adamus or Adamis, but either way.
Speaker 3: We apologize us.
Speaker 2: Their wines were amazing too, some full cabernet and they
Speaker 2: are an entirely biodynamic vineyard which was very cool and
Speaker 2: just a gorgeous tasting room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big fan of theirs.
Speaker 1: And then we went home and got ready for dinner.
Speaker 1: And that's when I surprised you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god again, friends, Okay, this man. You surprised
Speaker 2: me over and over in ways I didn't expect, over
Speaker 2: and over, but somehow I didn't expect them, and yet
Speaker 2: it made me feel so loved because it was like
Speaker 2: you knew what I would want when we woke up
Speaker 2: in the morning on Sunday, we were walking through the
Speaker 2: lobby to leave the hotel, and I actually said out loud, oh,
Speaker 2: I kind of I miss seeing Mike, our dear friend,
Speaker 2: Mike who married us, who officiated our wedding. I miss
Speaker 2: seeing Mike sitting here at the table in the morning
Speaker 2: with his coffee. That was what happened last year. And
Speaker 2: then Saturday night we go down to go to dinner
Speaker 2: and I'm walking through the lobby and Mike and his
Speaker 2: wife Nadine are sitting there. And you surprised me with
Speaker 2: our friends joining us.
Speaker 1: Because I wanted, I want us to have our alone time.
Speaker 1: So I wanted like a good day and a half
Speaker 1: where it was just us, where we could really kind
Speaker 1: of get into the moment and share. And then I
Speaker 1: wanted kind of some of the people who meant the
Speaker 1: most to us to be there.
Speaker 3: And obviously, what doesn't do you think the guy who.
Speaker 1: Married us, you know, had to be back to bless
Speaker 1: us again. And so they joined us for dinner.
Speaker 2: Everybody send this I send this podcast to your partner
Speaker 2: if you want them to get like, what would you
Speaker 2: say your tips are for playing?
Speaker 3: First?
Speaker 1: Why would you call me? And you know I'm going
Speaker 1: to start a business on how to sneak a leap.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. This is Sunday night and we're
Speaker 1: just going to a dinner, just going to you know,
Speaker 1: a nice little Italian dinner there and I think it
Speaker 1: was Chichio was the name of the place there in Jansville.
Speaker 1: But the big surprise was on Monday night. That was
Speaker 1: you know, that was October fourteenth. That's our actual anniversary.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing all of Monday I had
Speaker 1: planned because that was our actual anniversary. I had Monday
Speaker 1: planned down to everything, every experience I wanted specifically for Elsie,
Speaker 1: and I had kept it a secret with the Ventnors,
Speaker 1: with our friends, with everybody, and I made it. It's
Speaker 1: Saturday night, we're at dinner, like we've made it. There's
Speaker 1: nothing that can burst this bubble of secrecy.
Speaker 3: Now you got me to.
Speaker 2: Nap, and it was a surprise. Friends, there was a surprise,
Speaker 2: and then you had the whole Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the people we were going to see Monday, they
Speaker 1: had not spoiled this. And I've been texting, We've been calling,
Speaker 1: you know, on the way to the gym in the morning,
Speaker 1: I'm calling people and we're oh okay, this is what's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm on the golf course places I know that Elz
Speaker 1: wouldn't see me. I'm like, okay, I got this, I
Speaker 1: got you, Like Monday is all set. The only thing
Speaker 1: I didn't plan was smash Ly. I didn't see sweet.
Speaker 3: I got to call her out. We're given permission to
Speaker 3: call her out.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay.
Speaker 2: So your tips for a good surprise, which are great,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go over them now. I think One,
Speaker 2: plan the details at a place where the person wouldn't
Speaker 2: even hear you or be suspicious you went on the
Speaker 2: golf course to make these calls about planning this. Two,
Speaker 2: if you're planning a flight, don't put their rewards number
Speaker 2: into the reservation.
Speaker 3: It'll keep it out of their.
Speaker 1: Ass, keeps it on the grid.
Speaker 2: Three, plan a surprise to a meaningful place, and that's
Speaker 2: just going to mean the world.
Speaker 1: That they and you'll both enjoy. But definitely with them
Speaker 1: in mind for maybe.
Speaker 2: Bringing the people they love. You brought our friends in
Speaker 2: and that made it all the more than meaningful. And
Speaker 2: then five and I think this was the one, the
Speaker 2: new one we've learned. Now, make sure that you not
Speaker 2: only tell the people who need to know, but tell them, hey,
Speaker 2: don't tell your friends and family. And actually, I think
Speaker 2: you should have known this from the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always the friends and family.
Speaker 3: You used to tell me this.
Speaker 2: Very thing about The Bachelor. You used to say, it's
Speaker 2: not the people on the show who spoil the show.
Speaker 3: It's like their mom.
Speaker 2: It's their friend from high school who knows they're on
Speaker 2: the show or knew they.
Speaker 1: Told what happened, because everybody has someone. Yes, and all
Speaker 1: fairness to Chef Tom at Roy Vineyard where we got married.
Speaker 1: Who this is where we were going to end up
Speaker 1: on Monday night for the penultimate moment of this trip. So,
Speaker 1: and I guess I should lead with that Monday what
Speaker 1: I had planned was number one, we went back to
Speaker 1: brand That is the vineyard where Lauren and I got engaged.
Speaker 3: And we had not been back since we got engaged.
Speaker 1: There's this beautiful outlook on Pritchard Hill overlooking Lake Hennessey.
Speaker 1: We had not been back since we got engaged a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I wanted to go back.
Speaker 1: I wanted the day to start where we began, which
Speaker 1: was where we got engaged. And so we went back,
Speaker 1: and I specifically said, I want to go up there.
Speaker 1: I want to have a glass of wine. I want
Speaker 1: to you know, have a toast with our friends, take
Speaker 1: some pictures. And that's where we started. The day was
Speaker 1: at Brand and our thanks to Brand for welcoming us back,
Speaker 1: not only that but also allowing us kind of back
Speaker 1: up in our little spot and giving us the space
Speaker 1: to do that. That was really special. And we met
Speaker 1: the owner of Brand and it was really funny because
Speaker 1: I had never met the owner of that particular vineyard.
Speaker 1: I just love the vineyard. I love their wine, and
Speaker 1: I love their little outlook where we got engaged.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful spot. They have a gorgeous tasting room
Speaker 2: and a beautiful view. I highly recommend getting engaged there.
Speaker 1: And we met him. We didn't get to meet his wife.
Speaker 1: But it was funny because I'm like, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel awkward because I've never met somebody who's land or
Speaker 1: home means so much to me, and I've never met you,
Speaker 1: like I've had some of the biggest moments. Now the
Speaker 1: biggest moment of my life happened here where I got engaged.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know you. So it's nice to say
Speaker 1: thank you, but so that's where we started, and then
Speaker 1: we were going to end up at the place where
Speaker 1: we got married, which is Roy Vineyards and Soda Canyon,
Speaker 1: and I highly recommend their wines, but also going to
Speaker 1: their tasting room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you see I mean Roy Brand, Servant Adamus,
Speaker 2: these great wines we went to. We also love Lakoya,
Speaker 2: Cardinal Mount Brave, you.
Speaker 3: See him on a menu. Those are all all stars
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately the Roy Vineyard, you know, got burned down
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty fire, and so they really rebuilt
Speaker 1: and it's just magnificent. I mean, it's just such a
Speaker 1: beautiful tasting room. So if you have a chance, it's
Speaker 1: a small vineyard, but it is so worth it. But
Speaker 1: that was we got married there, So that was we
Speaker 1: going to end up. And we not only got married there,
Speaker 1: but we had this beautiful meal by one of the
Speaker 1: most incredible chefs, Chef Tom, and so that was going
Speaker 1: to be We're gonna have a very quiet dinner with
Speaker 1: Chef Tom. You are friends Mike and.
Speaker 2: Friend Catherine who runs the taste here in front. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Chef Tom Stafford is just what an all star he is.
Speaker 2: His food rivaled French Laundry food to me.
Speaker 1: So that's what I've kept a secret. Okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: care about anything. That's what I kept a secret. And
Speaker 1: that I'm like, she's gonna I know the look on
Speaker 1: her face when we pull up to Roy. The other thing,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can if you're asking about
Speaker 1: tips for how to trick somebody, I can't promise this.
Speaker 1: But one weakness, the kryptonite of Lauren Zema is she
Speaker 1: is geographically blind. She has no idea where we are
Speaker 1: at any time.
Speaker 3: Ever, that's helpful for you.
Speaker 1: And it's so helpful because when we drove up the
Speaker 1: brand we've been there before, there's a big lake next
Speaker 1: to it. She's like, where are we? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is great. Same thing. We could have driven all
Speaker 1: the way to Roy and until she saw the actual house,
Speaker 1: she probably would not have known where we were. So
Speaker 1: having a spouse it's geographically blind, that is wonderful. But
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to keep a secret until we
Speaker 1: got there because.
Speaker 3: I wanted to could have done it if not for
Speaker 3: Smash Smash.
Speaker 2: So Saturday night, we go to dinner and we're going
Speaker 2: to a restaurant you've never been to before, and we
Speaker 2: walk in, and as I'm walking in, a young woman
Speaker 2: is standing up and looking at us, and I thought, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: she's seeing Chris.
Speaker 3: She's just really excited. She wants a picture. But like,
Speaker 3: literally we hadn't even sat down and she's standing up
Speaker 3: and coming over to me, and she goes, Lauren, I'm
Speaker 3: chef Tom's girlfriend Ashley, and he is so excited to
Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. It wasn't even like a Hi, nice
Speaker 3: to meet you guys.
Speaker 2: Like if she just said, Hi, I'm chef Tom's girlfriend, Ashley.
Speaker 3: It would have taken me a second.
Speaker 2: But I think you could have swooped in and maybe
Speaker 2: changed the direction of the conversation. But she said and
Speaker 2: then oh, Ashley, all our love to you. But it
Speaker 2: just became word vomit after that, Like it was like
Speaker 2: and she kept saying, and she kept saying, and he's
Speaker 2: so excited to see you tomorrow. I was actually at
Speaker 2: your wedding last year, and so he's so excited to
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow for the big event. And he is
Speaker 2: so and I want to be back in from Chicago
Speaker 2: just for this.
Speaker 3: And so at that point.
Speaker 1: I wish there had been a video of me and
Speaker 1: my face because my jaw dropped to the floor. I
Speaker 1: couldn't stop what was happening. It really was a scene
Speaker 1: from the show where I couldn't stop what was happening,
Speaker 1: and I was just my heart was aching. My jaw
Speaker 1: had dropped. I tried to like give her these nonverbal
Speaker 1: cues of like, you know, aboard, aboard. I think she
Speaker 1: was excited, and she kind of word vomited, and it
Speaker 1: was out there and we couldn't turn around. We couldn't
Speaker 1: turn the car around.
Speaker 2: I felt so bad because I could see, I could set.
Speaker 3: You got quiet.
Speaker 1: I got really quiet, and I.
Speaker 3: Could sense that you were like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: and I love you so much.
Speaker 2: I if I could have gotten like, here's the thing,
Speaker 2: maybe if.
Speaker 3: She just said the first.
Speaker 2: Thing, I would have, But it was all happening so fast,
Speaker 2: Like if she had just said the first thing and
Speaker 2: then we I don't know if but she kept saying it.
Speaker 2: I was trying to find a way to pretend like
Speaker 2: I hadn't understood what was like if she maybe said
Speaker 2: something a little bit, you know, hinting, I would have
Speaker 2: just pretended I was confused, and I would have to
Speaker 2: preserve what you'd clearly worked so hard for I would
Speaker 2: have pretended I hadn't figured it out and pretended to
Speaker 2: be surprised that I would, saying, because, by the way,
Speaker 2: this wasn't something I was like trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: I wasn't a kid trying to find out what my
Speaker 2: parents got me for Christmas. I wanted to experience the
Speaker 2: whole surprise. And I was actually so glad. Sometimes I'm annoyed.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll be watching a movie and I'm annoyed. I
Speaker 2: figured out the end of the movie because now the
Speaker 2: whole thing's you know, it's a little less interesting. But
Speaker 2: I didn't want to know. But there was just no
Speaker 2: way to get around. She had made it so obvious, the.
Speaker 1: Links I had gone to to keep this secret.
Speaker 2: I mean, tell you the girlfriends and your boyfriends and
Speaker 2: your friends that it's a surprise.
Speaker 1: It was like, and I got to the eve, I
Speaker 1: got to Christmas Eve, and I was there, I was home.
Speaker 1: I was crossing the finish line in this girl just
Speaker 1: blew it up and it was so we sat down.
Speaker 1: I wasn't upset. I sat down. I go, well, let
Speaker 1: me tell you about your surprise tomorrow night. Clearly we're
Speaker 1: going to roy and we're going to sit down and
Speaker 1: have a dinner by the man that cooked our wedding dinner,
Speaker 1: and we're going to have some amazing wines. And that's
Speaker 1: what happened. But then it also sunk in a little
Speaker 1: bit further around, like, oh, I feel like I was
Speaker 1: just very rude to that girl, and I felt like
Speaker 1: she may have thought you were rude because you didn't
Speaker 1: respond because I was just both quiet, Well, you didn't
Speaker 1: know what she was talking about. You're like, I have
Speaker 1: no idea what she was talking about, so you didn't respond.
Speaker 3: I knew what she was talking about.
Speaker 1: But you didn't know what the Yeah, you couldn't interact
Speaker 1: because you didn't know.
Speaker 3: No, I mean maybe I picked up on it pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: I just was so quiet because I knew that I
Speaker 3: was everything. I knew you were so upset, and so
Speaker 3: I felt so bad.
Speaker 2: But so look, I after a few minutes, I just
Speaker 2: went up to to say, like, Ashley, don't worry about it,
Speaker 2: and she, of course she said, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: just texted Tom and he told me it was a surprise,
Speaker 2: and now I feel so bad. I just said, don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. It's not a big deal. But that
Speaker 2: is the lesson everybody if you're planning a surprise. And
Speaker 2: this is a thing that we used to say about
Speaker 2: the Bachelor, Tell it's not just the people who know
Speaker 2: about the surprise you're helping you with it. It's their people.
Speaker 2: It's the third layer of people. That's so you got
Speaker 2: to worry about.
Speaker 3: And you know what, it was fun because then I.
Speaker 2: Was able to get really excited for it, was to
Speaker 2: look forward to it a little bit. So the next
Speaker 2: day was that was all those this big finish of
Speaker 2: surprises for our anniversary, like you said, taking me on
Speaker 2: this journey of We went to the place where we
Speaker 2: got engaged, and then we went to the place where
Speaker 2: we got married and we got there at the exact
Speaker 2: same time again to Roy and took some pictures and
Speaker 2: it felt I mean was it felt like again it
Speaker 2: was this beautiful day, the temperature was amazing.
Speaker 3: We got so lucky.
Speaker 2: I feel so blessed, Like I always feel a little
Speaker 2: bit like my Dad was watching over us that day
Speaker 2: because we just said the most perfect day and the
Speaker 2: sky was so beautiful, and it made me feel like
Speaker 2: he was just saying hello and making sure everything.
Speaker 3: Would be perfect.
Speaker 2: And so we had a gorgeous night and an incredible
Speaker 2: dinner cooked by Chef Tom. And he didn't give us
Speaker 2: the exact menu from our wedding, but he said it
Speaker 2: was inspired by and he kind of used some of
Speaker 2: the same ingredients and mirrored the dishes. And we got
Speaker 2: to sit there with us and the guy who married us,
Speaker 2: and his wife who sang in our wedding, Mike, and
Speaker 2: a dean and the woman who helped us plan our wedding, Catherine,
Speaker 2: and the guy who cooked our meal, Tom, and I
Speaker 2: guess you and I the people who got married and
Speaker 2: just enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Opened up a ridiculous run of some burgundies that led
Speaker 1: into some real wines, uh cabernets and some oh man,
Speaker 1: it was just it was ever it was. It was perfect.
Speaker 3: Took our.
Speaker 2: I always recommend Cheers tablets. You can get the money
Speaker 2: at the end of the night and they will make
Speaker 2: sure that you aren't miserable in Napa when you're doing
Speaker 2: wine tastings all day and then drinking wine at night.
Speaker 1: But we you know, we had to. It was almost
Speaker 1: a full moon out and it was just one of
Speaker 1: those perfect clear nights because it had rain the night
Speaker 1: before in Napus it was so clear you could see it.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
Speaker 1: How am I feeling?
Speaker 3: How are you feeling in that? And yeah, being there,
Speaker 3: I haven't even really.
Speaker 1: Asked you that I was going to tell you. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite moments was that you and Nadine had
Speaker 1: walked back into the kitchen, I think to say thanks
Speaker 1: to chef Tom and to our friend Catherine who helped
Speaker 1: put this whole thing on and put our wedding on.
Speaker 1: And so Mike and I were so the room where
Speaker 1: we kind of had our ceremony, Uh is this tasting
Speaker 1: It's like a living room, right, There's a table and
Speaker 1: a fireplace and chairs, and so Mike and I were
Speaker 1: sitting in these two big leather chairs where everybody had
Speaker 1: just been sitting a year, you know, that night a
Speaker 1: year before for our wedding. And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just we were looking up and it was night, and so
Speaker 1: I had never really seen the place at night in
Speaker 1: the lights, and I was like, this is really a
Speaker 1: beautiful room. And I don't know, it was kind of
Speaker 1: like being in a church late at night where you
Speaker 1: just kind of took I kind of took it in
Speaker 1: for the first time again, and it just made me
Speaker 1: emotional and very nostalgic and grateful and happy. And look,
Speaker 1: my belly was full. I had some great wine, and
Speaker 1: so it was just kind of it all kind of
Speaker 1: hit me right at the end where I was just
Speaker 1: so in love, so grateful and just yeah, blast, I
Speaker 1: felt just Mike. Mike just kind of put his eye
Speaker 1: on my shoulders, like yeah, he just we both kind
Speaker 1: of just felt this moment together. It was really cool
Speaker 1: at the end.
Speaker 2: I think my favorite moment was before we sat down
Speaker 2: to dinner, I said to you, I want to go
Speaker 2: back down because we we had done our dinner on
Speaker 2: the lower level, and I said, I want to go
Speaker 2: back down there to where we were with all our
Speaker 2: friends and family before the sunsets tonight. I want to
Speaker 2: see before the light goes away. And so just the
Speaker 2: two of us went down there, and that was what,
Speaker 2: you know, our wedding and app was everything I think
Speaker 2: we wanted it to be, because it was, you know,
Speaker 2: the small group of the people we love the most,
Speaker 2: and we got so much great time with them, and
Speaker 2: that's what I'll I will remember forever. But standing there
Speaker 2: with you in that spot again that already held so
Speaker 2: much emotion, I really was thinking, like, wow, I'm surprised
Speaker 2: because I loved you so much when we got married, obviously,
Speaker 2: but I was thinking, I'm surprised by how much deeper
Speaker 2: I feel like our love has gotten in this first
Speaker 2: year of marriage. People talk a lot about the first
Speaker 2: year of marriage and how you know you can have
Speaker 2: some bumps along the way, which we really haven't had.
Speaker 2: But like I think, maybe I naively thought, I don't know,
Speaker 2: because we're a little older and we know ourselves a
Speaker 2: little better, I didn't know how much the first year
Speaker 2: of marriage would still be really impactful. I feel that
Speaker 2: our love has gotten a lot deeper. I feel that
Speaker 2: we're even closer. And I felt that in that moment
Speaker 2: because it was really a bookmark of one year then
Speaker 2: to now in that same spot and being there physically
Speaker 2: in that place really helped me reflect on that. So
Speaker 2: that made me really grateful and happy. And I never
Speaker 2: thought about this because, like I said, I had no
Speaker 2: idea you were taking me there. But I highly recommend
Speaker 2: going to the place you got married A year later.
Speaker 2: I was reflecting and thinking, well, to say, we've done
Speaker 2: this in ten years, like for your tenure, the place
Speaker 2: might have changed a lot. I don't know, maybe it's
Speaker 2: not even still there, maybe the same people aren't still there.
Speaker 2: So to come back a year later where it's still
Speaker 2: the same and to kind of have your senses awakened
Speaker 2: again and have your memory refreshed and again to experience
Speaker 2: it a little slower was really really cool. So I
Speaker 2: don't know you knew that it would bring all that,
Speaker 2: No I did. What did you think it would bring?
Speaker 1: I just I knew it would be sentimental for us
Speaker 1: because you and I both we both appreciate and love
Speaker 1: the same things. And it's one of the things I've
Speaker 1: become I've learned over this year of you know, Elsie
Speaker 1: and I and I agree, it's funny that it's only
Speaker 1: been a year, but I do think that we have
Speaker 1: leapt forward so much further than you know you think
Speaker 1: at the time, Like we are in love and we
Speaker 1: are connected, and all those things are true a year ago.
Speaker 1: But you know, what you can't ever make is history.
Speaker 1: Only time can help you make history. And we've had
Speaker 1: the experience of time now together. And so now that
Speaker 1: we've had another year under our belt, four more seasons
Speaker 1: of experience and love and life and all these things,
Speaker 1: it just brings you closer together, and so now you
Speaker 1: have we have stories, and so we have you know,
Speaker 1: we sit there and talk about our our parents and
Speaker 1: and things that you know, having them there and all
Speaker 1: those just experiences made it that much more meaningful, and
Speaker 1: so it was a beautiful trip.
Speaker 2: I just reminded always of the importance of celebrating. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe if I told this to someone,
Speaker 2: it might seem like a lot wow on your first
Speaker 2: anniversary you went back or what. But I think often
Speaker 2: our relationship is the thing that we feel we can
Speaker 2: rely on, so it ends up coming last. You know,
Speaker 2: you're working, you have your kids, you're doing these things
Speaker 2: because you think, oh, the relationship's good, it's there. I
Speaker 2: don't have to feed that, but the feeding it is
Speaker 2: what makes it good for so, you know, for the
Speaker 2: times when you need it. I think it's so important
Speaker 2: to celebrate each other, to celebrate your love, to take.
Speaker 3: Time to think about it. And one thing that I
Speaker 3: love that we.
Speaker 2: Do is that when we give each other these gifts
Speaker 2: or we do surprises for each other, we always try
Speaker 2: to do trips. Like I love that you surprised me
Speaker 2: with a trip instead of an item, because that meant
Speaker 2: we got to make these memories together and feed our relationship.
Speaker 2: And I'm like tired, and now I'll get a little teary,
Speaker 2: but I love you so much and I'm so grateful.
Speaker 3: It was a perfect weekend.
Speaker 2: Yet again, thank you to all the people who helped
Speaker 2: you make it perfect. To roy to Brand for all
Speaker 2: the great memories we've had in both those places. Can't
Speaker 2: recommend them enough, and can't recommend that enough. Go have
Speaker 2: a romantic weekend and feed your relationship.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: I well in this the way I began. Happy first
Speaker 1: first anniversary. Maybe we have many more.
Speaker 3: I love you.
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