Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, this is Dakota.
Speaker 2: Oh hey Dakota, Dakota like this like North and South Dakota.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, what's up Dakota. How you doing today?
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. I got off work.
Speaker 2: I'm uh.
Speaker 1: I'm working on my hearse right now, getting ready for
Speaker 1: Hearst com this weekend.
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up, there is there is no such
Speaker 2: thing as hearse.
Speaker 1: Con dead ass. It's in Denver, Colorado. A few hundred
Speaker 1: hearses go. We have like one hundred vendors, some live music.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty stick time.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out, you're you're literally dead ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow. Do you just like I have a question, do
Speaker 2: you work for like a funeral thing or do you
Speaker 2: do you just do you just drive a hearse as
Speaker 2: your personal car?
Speaker 1: I just I drive a hearse as my daily driver.
Speaker 1: I work in the halloween industry. Whenever that comes around,
Speaker 1: it's like as a scare. And I actually I won
Speaker 1: the hearst earlier this year at a Halloween trade show
Speaker 1: and expo.
Speaker 2: You won a hearse. What was the competition?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah. It's just charity giveaway. So you buy
Speaker 1: raffle tickets and all the money goes towards charity. The
Speaker 1: hearse is donated from a funeral home, so it was
Speaker 1: just retired earlier this year, and yeah, they give it
Speaker 1: away and I just got lucky.
Speaker 2: And this is your day to day vehicle. You go,
Speaker 2: you go grocery shopping in this hearse.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I was just at Walmart actually buying spray
Speaker 1: cans earlier.
Speaker 2: Do you get weird looks on the street.
Speaker 1: All the time. I mean it's not every day you
Speaker 1: see a hearse. And mine's a little pimped out, So you.
Speaker 2: Know, what does a hurt? What do you mean pimped out?
Speaker 2: What is that? How do you pimp out a hearse?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I have a bunch of like stainless steel art
Speaker 1: pieces I made on the side, because you know it's
Speaker 1: a big like canvas top, So I have a bunch
Speaker 1: of like flowers and leaves on the side. I have
Speaker 1: a special hood ornament I made with like a bat
Speaker 1: on top of a skull, like its wings out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eventually I'd like to get some underglow lower it, but
Speaker 1: you know, I just got earlier this year, so we uh,
Speaker 1: we got some time to do that.
Speaker 2: Hmm. And you say you work in the halloween industry, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I helped maintain like the Halloween animatronics, you know, like
Speaker 1: the little crappy scary monsters that jump out at you.
Speaker 1: And then I'm also a scare actor.
Speaker 2: What do you is that your full time job? Is that?
Speaker 2: Like a do you spend eleven months of the year
Speaker 2: preparing for Halloween?
Speaker 1: I wish that's that's a part of the dream. But
Speaker 1: right now I'm a metal artist. I actually make big
Speaker 1: metal cactuses of the full time job. And then you know,
Speaker 1: for four or five months of the year, whenever I
Speaker 1: have free time, I help out with our local hont house.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're a You're you're a cool cookie, Dakota. This
Speaker 2: is this is fascinating.
Speaker 4: Hmm, thank you.
Speaker 2: Do you do you ever make like, uh, this feels
Speaker 2: like a burning Man thing like you make? Like you
Speaker 2: ever make a sculpture for that?
Speaker 1: I've I've wanted to. I actually learned about Bernie Man
Speaker 1: through you. I was listening to your podcast earlier and
Speaker 1: y'all were talking about going to Bernie Man.
Speaker 2: Mhm. So you make big metal sculptures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, primarily cactuses. I work for a comp. Oh
Speaker 1: go ahead, no, you go ahead. Yeah, I work for
Speaker 1: a company and all we do is we make metal cactuses.
Speaker 1: I do all of their bigger surrar caractices. And you
Speaker 1: were from seven feet up to twenty one feet tall.
Speaker 2: So why what you know? What's so funny? As I
Speaker 2: love I love the various like things that exist that
Speaker 2: keep people employed. You know what I mean? Like like
Speaker 2: like that's such a specific thing that you work for
Speaker 2: a this is a company. How many people work at
Speaker 2: this metal cactus company?
Speaker 1: More than you think? I think right now we have
Speaker 1: close to like forty employees. You have with costcos and
Speaker 1: stuff you do, you do a lot of what oh,
Speaker 1: I like deals with Costco. So like I I live
Speaker 1: in Kansas, which is such a weird place to have
Speaker 1: a cactus company, and then we ship everything out to
Speaker 1: like Nevada, Arizona, a bunch of like casinos, buyer stuff.
Speaker 2: What what is the most okay? Because I the economics
Speaker 2: of places is interesting to me. Like I remember maybe
Speaker 2: I've talked about this on the podcast before, but I
Speaker 2: remember I was I went to Coachella one year and
Speaker 2: I was driving from Los Angeles to the Coachella Valley
Speaker 2: and along that route is a bunch of like really
Speaker 2: really small California towns with like low populations, And I
Speaker 2: saw I was driving and I saw a mattress store
Speaker 2: in this small town, and I was like, how many
Speaker 2: people a year buy in this town? Need to buy
Speaker 2: a mattress and go to this place so that it
Speaker 2: can pay rent and pay for all these like employees,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like how many? What is
Speaker 2: what is the market demand for metal cactuses?
Speaker 1: You you be very surprised, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: So we're constantly like with our bigger sculptures, everything's made
Speaker 1: to order. Right now, we have like a four month
Speaker 1: wait on our cerro cactuses, But then we do a
Speaker 1: lot of like high production volume stuff that goes into
Speaker 1: Costco and stuff like that. I mean we just fulfilled
Speaker 1: like a you know, the six thousand count five foot
Speaker 1: tall like sorrow cactus order for Costco. So I mean
Speaker 1: we're constantly busy. Our slowless time is January and February,
Speaker 1: and even then we're barely keeping up with demand.
Speaker 2: Why do why do people want these metal cactices? No offense?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what they Why do
Speaker 2: people want these things?
Speaker 1: I honestly cannot tell you. I mean it's just the
Speaker 1: art art. It's like, we deal with a lot of
Speaker 1: landscapers and you know it just it looks pretty in
Speaker 1: your yard. But our stuff is way too expensive. I
Speaker 1: would never buy anything from us.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's a metal cactus?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What's what's a metal cactus? Run you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, like are the cheapest cactus I make is
Speaker 1: a sub foot tall cactus and it goes like eighteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Then our nine foot one goes up to
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred, and then it just goes up from there.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have cactices that cost like seventeen grand.
Speaker 2: Dakota. Who the fuck is buying these cactuses?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't deal with our customers. I just make the shit.
Speaker 2: You don't know you? Well, how do you not know that?
Speaker 2: You've never you've never? You just I love you know what?
Speaker 2: Actually it's I actually think it's great that you don't
Speaker 2: know that, because you've just been spending years of your
Speaker 2: life making big metal cactuses and not asking any questions
Speaker 2: about it. Really.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I'll ask, like who bought this big
Speaker 1: order and then they'll just say, oh, some casino and guess,
Speaker 1: like all right, that's I guess scared enough for me?
Speaker 2: What what is your what's can? I are you? Is
Speaker 2: it kosher if you plug this? Because I want to look.
Speaker 2: I want to see these cactuses.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Our company is called Desert Steel. Anyway you can
Speaker 1: see oh yeah, Instagram, Facebook. We have a website. Like
Speaker 1: I said, we do a lot of cheaper stuff. I
Speaker 1: just do a lot of the more expensive, lower volume stuff.
Speaker 1: So like we I think our cheapest thing is like
Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, and then I'm on your guys
Speaker 2: website right now, okay, shop These are all metal cactuses. Wait, okay,
Speaker 2: I will say this. These look really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they look good.
Speaker 2: This is not an ad. By the way, this is
Speaker 2: this seems like a very elaborate ad. I promise it's not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like I'm looking at this five piece Mexican fence post. Okay,
Speaker 2: this looks. This looks really cool, But like, who the
Speaker 2: fuck is spending seven hundred dollars to buy this?
Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't know, like it has to
Speaker 1: be really rich people. I mean, I I don't know
Speaker 1: that I've never met the type of person that wants
Speaker 1: to spend that much money for yard art. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll buy cheap stuff that's like fifty bucks, but I
Speaker 1: won't spend anything over like one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2: Now you guys have some cheap stuff. Okay, we got
Speaker 2: to look at this. This is a metally prick metal
Speaker 2: prickly pair cactus that's only one hundred and sixty but
Speaker 2: still who I'm looking at the it is three hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty seven reviews. Dude, people are actually buying this shit.
Speaker 2: This is insane.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a lot of people buy this stuff. All right,
Speaker 1: hold on, which blows me away.
Speaker 2: Our story. I'm looking at the our story part of
Speaker 2: the of the website. Yeah, and it says our pieces
Speaker 2: stand firm through rain, snow, wind and sun and structurally
Speaker 2: should last a lifetime. That's not the fucking story that
Speaker 2: tells me nothing about this, I know.
Speaker 1: I mean our our story. I can share some dirt
Speaker 1: about our story because like, our boss fucked over his
Speaker 1: brother really hard to make the company. Like there's some dirt.
Speaker 2: But I mean, okay, first of all, I'm excited about
Speaker 2: to hear about this because this sounds like an HBO
Speaker 2: documentary in the making.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you're right.
Speaker 2: Go ahead break this story. What's the what's the dirt?
Speaker 2: If you're at liberty to say, I don't know, if
Speaker 2: I don't want.
Speaker 3: To get used?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I am no, there's no way they listen
Speaker 1: to this. So our boss his name is Eric, and
Speaker 1: let's just call his brother Jason, just for the story.
Speaker 1: So Eric and Jason were looking at starting the company,
Speaker 1: and then Eric stole the plans from Jason and then
Speaker 1: went with his stepdad to start the company, and Jason
Speaker 1: kind of got left in the dirt. So then Jason
Speaker 1: started up a rival company that makes like exclusively palm trees,
Speaker 1: and now he's trying to get into the cactus industry.
Speaker 1: So you have this family that split apart between Eric
Speaker 1: and Jason because Eric wanted to run off and not
Speaker 1: wait for his brother. So we have a little rival
Speaker 1: rival company.
Speaker 2: Oh do you have a rival company started by the this?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh shit? That actually? That actually is pretty there's a
Speaker 2: fucking metal ca That's so stupid that there's two of
Speaker 2: these companies. I'd give it if there was one. But
Speaker 2: how's how's the brother company doing?
Speaker 1: Uh? I don't know. I hear they pay better though,
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of looking at going over there.
Speaker 2: Yo, Yeah, that's you know what I feel. Here's the
Speaker 2: thing is, Okay, so your brother basically made a spike
Speaker 2: Not your brother, this the CEO's brother basically made a
Speaker 2: spike company.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So here's the thing. Here's here's how the code
Speaker 2: of here's how you can benefit is because listen, I
Speaker 2: don't know how much money these people have. Apparently, if
Speaker 2: they're selling this many twenty five hundred dollars cactus, this
Speaker 2: is probably a lot.
Speaker 1: But I have a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have a lot of money. So here's
Speaker 2: the thing. The brother, right, if you already work for
Speaker 2: the company that his company exists solely to spite you're
Speaker 2: you're a very attractive laborer, because he would want you
Speaker 2: only so that his brother cannot have you.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 2: So that's that. You're so, you're a you're a You're
Speaker 2: in a strong bargaining position here, I really am.
Speaker 1: I can make so much more money and fuck over
Speaker 1: my current company.
Speaker 2: Do you not like this current company? He seems like
Speaker 2: you don't like him.
Speaker 1: Uh, management wise, it's kind of shitty. Uh. People wise,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a job at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can tell you don't like it, because you don't.
Speaker 2: You don't seem the way. The fact that you're talking
Speaker 2: about all of this on the podcast right now makes
Speaker 2: me think that you're like, you just have this thing
Speaker 2: of like they're probably not going to hear this, but
Speaker 2: if they do, I don't fucking care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of looking to spice up my life
Speaker 1: a little bit. So if I get fired, you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, I'm I'm happy to help you get fired.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: What where did you hear that the rival, the brother
Speaker 2: company is paying more?
Speaker 1: I heard from my uh the plant manager, because we've
Speaker 1: actually already lost one person over there, and I was
Speaker 1: just talking to a manager about it, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they're paying a little bit more because he knows I'm
Speaker 1: unhappy and he's just a genuine cool guy. So like,
Speaker 1: if there's a better opportunity, you taking it.
Speaker 2: So what's the what's your what's your boss's name? The
Speaker 2: guy who wins the company or you give a fake name. Eric?
Speaker 2: Is he pissed? Okay? Whatever is he? Is? He pissed
Speaker 2: off that that that his brother took took someone?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yes, and no does. It really doesn't. Eric is
Speaker 1: rarely there, so it really doesn't get to him. But
Speaker 1: I know he found out. In the day he found out,
Speaker 1: he was absolutely pissed. So I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 4: It was that.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing is this guy Eric, I don't
Speaker 2: know him, and maybe he's maybe he'll listen to this
Speaker 2: some day, but he should. I can't imagine him living
Speaker 2: a life where he's pissed off about anything, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Because let me and here's why, and
Speaker 2: here's why. Here's why I say that. Here's why I
Speaker 2: say that is like, look, if you and I say
Speaker 2: it by the way I want to. I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say this from pure personal experience. Okay, if you
Speaker 2: become if you start a successful business doing something really stupid,
Speaker 2: like like like dressing up as a gecko or selling
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars cactuses, at a certain point you
Speaker 2: have to go the fact that I was ever able
Speaker 2: to do this in the first place is a hilarious
Speaker 2: cosmic gift, you know what I mean. So, like, so
Speaker 2: like if your if your brother poaches your golden Cactus company,
Speaker 2: you gotta just be like we had a great run
Speaker 2: on this stupid cactus company. None of this should have
Speaker 2: ever worked.
Speaker 1: You're so right.
Speaker 2: There's no reason. There's no reason. We live in a
Speaker 2: there's no reason this guy should be able to sell
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars colding cactuses. I mean, I'm just bullshiting.
Speaker 2: I'm I don't I don't mean any of this, but
Speaker 2: I mean, I kind I also do a little bit,
Speaker 2: but he should. It's just funny. It's funny. It's just funny.
Speaker 2: It's I'm gonna keep looking at this guy's website. Where
Speaker 2: the fuck, How the fuck is he doing this? How
Speaker 2: do you get started with this? Sane?
Speaker 1: I want to go to art shows.
Speaker 2: Look at Jesus fucking Christ, Look at this, dude. Look
Speaker 2: at this Desert steals metal Joshua tree. You can buy
Speaker 2: a metal Joshua tree from this website for five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars and it has twenty seven reviews. Twenty seven people
Speaker 2: bought this.
Speaker 1: What a surprise you if we're constantly selling them like
Speaker 1: we're behind on those two. We have three dedicated workers
Speaker 1: only doing the Joshua trees and we're still behind.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck are these? Look at this? Elena L.
Speaker 2: Verified buyer ur Hoa sent us a nasty message for
Speaker 2: planting it without permission. We felt very smug when we
Speaker 2: told them that it's a metal sculpture and thus not
Speaker 2: under their jurisdiction. What a life this person lives. What
Speaker 2: a life to write a review about the five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars Joshua Tree, This is so funny. This is insane.
Speaker 2: Hold on, that's not even the most that's not even
Speaker 2: the most expense. What's the seventeen thousand dollars?
Speaker 3: One?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that one is special order. If you under
Speaker 1: serraros on our website, then you can go there's like
Speaker 1: two options, one for torch cactuses. They are once for
Speaker 1: like normal cerros. That's all the cactuses I make, and
Speaker 1: on our website we only go up to fourteen feet,
Speaker 1: but we do a bunch of customer orders for a
Speaker 1: seventeen foot cactus.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Yeah, we got a sagur
Speaker 2: Sagurro torch three hundred and sixty nine dollars, five hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety four reviews. Yeah, by the way, the one
Speaker 2: by the way, so they're they're all five star reviews.
Speaker 2: They're basically one hundred five star reviews. So do you
Speaker 2: feel proud about that?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, I used to make them, and uh
Speaker 1: I wish I could say I give a fuck when
Speaker 1: I made them. But they're pretty cool I have to
Speaker 1: do at my house.
Speaker 2: Okay, look, oh wait, okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2: This is a metal cactus, seventeen feet high, eleven thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: fifty two reviews. I need to read these reviews. I
Speaker 2: need to know who these people are that are buying
Speaker 2: this cactus. This is a great website. I could spend
Speaker 2: all day on here. Someone said, someone just wrote worth
Speaker 2: the money, great quality. This is crazy. How much does
Speaker 2: like a real one cost?
Speaker 1: I got no clue, but I know that you have
Speaker 1: to like care for them along they look forever and
Speaker 1: they take forever to grow. So I just know you
Speaker 1: need to like buy an adult one, which are that's
Speaker 1: pretty expensive, or you can buy a baby one, but
Speaker 1: then you know, by the time you're eighty, you'll probably
Speaker 1: be like four feet tall.
Speaker 2: I'm truly agast at the existence of this company that
Speaker 2: you work at doing great. They're doing great. Look at
Speaker 2: this they loo and nine point I swear on my life,
Speaker 2: this is not this is not an advertisement. I swear
Speaker 2: in my life it's not I really if if you're
Speaker 2: asking me, I my I don't think you should buy these,
Speaker 2: but I I'm I am excited, not because and no
Speaker 2: offense to you, de Cooda. I'm sure that they are
Speaker 2: great quality products. I'm sure that they're great, but I mean,
Speaker 2: this is insane that this exists.
Speaker 1: Trust me, no offense taken. Like I said, I would
Speaker 1: not buy them either.
Speaker 2: Do you have any I mean you make them? Do
Speaker 2: you ever you keep any?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I take home like the fucked up ones.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I got like a seven foot one. I
Speaker 1: got few five foot ones I got. I remember one
Speaker 1: day I took like fifteen hundred dollars worth of product
Speaker 1: home just because it was all fucked up. That was
Speaker 1: a good day.
Speaker 2: Why don't you get into the business, Dakoda. I feel like,
Speaker 2: if you're the one making the fucking thing, why don't you.
Speaker 1: Just you know, uh yeah, they did like a fuck
Speaker 1: ton of patents that's why.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, well I got that ship walk down?
Speaker 2: Are you not? But I like, I don't know. If
Speaker 2: I were in your position, I would just be like
Speaker 2: I would be like, wow, people will spend a lot
Speaker 2: of money on again, no offense. I'm sure these are
Speaker 2: very well crafted. I really, I truly, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: they are a great product. But are you not? Are
Speaker 2: you not? Are you not at this? Are you not
Speaker 2: at this job? Being like I have the skills to
Speaker 2: make stuff, and I am seeing firsthand that people will
Speaker 2: spend exorbitant amounts of money on like random stupid things.
Speaker 2: Are you not? Are you not inspired by this? Are
Speaker 2: you not? Like, let me go start a make go
Speaker 2: old and shrimp that people can buy or whatever.
Speaker 1: I am. I am very inspired by it. So, like
Speaker 1: I said with my hearst, like I made stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: a metal artist by trade. Before I got into the
Speaker 1: cactus business, I was a metal artist at like a
Speaker 1: handblown glass shop. And then yeah, now I'm in the
Speaker 1: cactus business, I guess. And in my free time now
Speaker 1: just make like metal art pieces. And uh yeah, slowly
Speaker 1: we're making movies.
Speaker 2: You're making movies.
Speaker 1: Yes, me and my best friend we just produced a
Speaker 1: horror movie for Shutter coming out this December.
Speaker 2: Oh cool?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Cool is it is it? Did you guys? Uh uh
Speaker 2: write it together?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We wrote it and we fully self produced it.
Speaker 2: Cool. Oh that's so awesome. And how does that work?
Speaker 2: Do you do? You you pitch it the Shutter first,
Speaker 2: that you make it, and then you sold it to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had the script, we pitched it to him,
Speaker 1: they said, yes, go ahead and do it. Then we
Speaker 1: fully self produced it, and now we're in the stage
Speaker 1: where Shutter has it and they're going to edit at
Speaker 1: all of it, do all that junk, and we get paid.
Speaker 2: Oh sick. So wait, so when you say you sell, like,
Speaker 2: who fronted the money for it? Was it them or you?
Speaker 1: It was? It was me and my friend. It was
Speaker 1: it's a super low budget, shitty horror movie.
Speaker 2: And then and then so you guys fronted it and
Speaker 2: then Shutter paid you for it, and so you may
Speaker 2: have made a profit on it. Yeah, that's so cool man. Congratulations,
Speaker 2: thank you. What's all right? Do you want to talk
Speaker 2: about the movie? I have so many questions for your
Speaker 2: fascinating individual.
Speaker 1: Dakota, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: So, uh, what do you want to tell? What's the
Speaker 2: movie about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So it's a horror movie. It kind of takes
Speaker 1: advantage of like the Groundhog Day concepts, you know, like
Speaker 1: the day repeating. Uh kind of bullshit. So we have
Speaker 1: this cult. The leader of the cult is called the
Speaker 1: Catcher of Human Grime. And anyways, this cult, they get
Speaker 1: stuck in a time loop and they have to meet
Speaker 1: like this kill quota. So we have a bunch of
Speaker 1: like really creepy, weird kills in the movie. And this
Speaker 1: one person gets thrown into the colt and they realize
Speaker 1: all the shit that's going on, So then they try
Speaker 1: to break out the cult and the time where like
Speaker 1: I said, it's a really crappy horror movie, but they
Speaker 1: paid for it.
Speaker 2: That's sick. Yeah, man, interesting? Interesting, Yeah, it was in
Speaker 2: your first movie.
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, it was. It was my first time
Speaker 1: ever doing film, and it was just something me and
Speaker 1: my friend were passionate about. We got a bunch of
Speaker 1: people together and just did it.
Speaker 2: Making movies is really really hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. We did. We had seven days of
Speaker 1: filming for an hour and hour and twenty long minute
Speaker 1: movie and it was seven days of hell. But I
Speaker 1: mean it was a lot of fun, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Wow. Interesting, Mmmm is that what you want to Are
Speaker 2: you hoping to do more of that? Like? Are you
Speaker 2: gonna make another one? Or are you like that was
Speaker 2: too much?
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, we were creating an LLC this summer called
Speaker 1: Wild Deuice Productions, and then from there, Yeah, we are
Speaker 1: working on a short film to enter in contest, and
Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep on hacking away at it until
Speaker 1: we get something or we just it's a creative outlets.
Speaker 1: It's our passion.
Speaker 2: So you're a hearse enthusiast, horror filmmaker, metal cactus maker. Yeah,
Speaker 2: are you happy, Jakota? Do you like life?
Speaker 1: I do? I love Life's yeah, like a yeah, just
Speaker 1: well about going out doing stuff? I mean, money's not
Speaker 1: I always do stuff on cheap. Money's not a reason
Speaker 1: not to just figure it out why you get there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, hmm. Tell me about Hearst Cohn. What kind
Speaker 2: of demographic does that attract a.
Speaker 1: Bunch of very very weird people. A lot of people
Speaker 1: in the haunted house industry they drive hearses full time. Then, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have people that are just kind of interested in
Speaker 1: the dead and the morbid stuff. That's pretty much your demographic.
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of goth people that drive hearses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I said, you have one hundred vendors all
Speaker 1: tailored to like hears and gothic Ale same with that.
Speaker 1: You got music, you got I think we have four
Speaker 1: live musicians throughout this Saturday all Saturday playing and then
Speaker 1: so it's a four day event Thursday that's today. We're
Speaker 1: missing it. But they instead of like you know the Olympics,
Speaker 1: they do like the torch burning, they do a body
Speaker 1: burning event and a casket to kind of start off
Speaker 1: the festivities. And then Friday they have a super long
Speaker 1: parade of just hearses and old ambulances. Saturday is the
Speaker 1: main day for the public where anyone that has a
Speaker 1: hearse can go. They get in free, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: all the vendors like I said, and then Sunday rounds
Speaker 1: it out where everyone that drives a hearse. It's like
Speaker 1: a meeting event where you can go to a local
Speaker 1: park and just kind of chat with everyone.
Speaker 2: I'm on the website. Okay, wait, First of all, with
Speaker 2: a casket burning, is there a real human being in that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay? Second, well I'm okay, I'm on the Hearst Club.
Speaker 2: I'm on a hearst club dot com slash hearst com,
Speaker 2: and I'm reading about this right now. There's a they
Speaker 2: have a show, there's they have hearse girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like girls, I wish I could talk more about it,
Speaker 1: but this is my first year, which.
Speaker 2: Is super Oh this is your first year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won. I won the Hearst this February, so
Speaker 1: I'm just now. Like in this little fan club community.
Speaker 2: They have a hearse cruising event. It says, have you
Speaker 2: ever experienced the immense fun of blocking of blocking traffic
Speaker 2: in all directions with the help of dozens of other hearses,
Speaker 2: Join us as we rule all the streets in twenty
Speaker 2: two foot long cars. This is insane. Where is this?
Speaker 2: This is in Nevada, Ginver. It is intended for Colorado. Wow,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is this is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: I absolutely okay. Do they do this every year?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: All right, next year I might have to go to
Speaker 2: Hearst Cohn. I'm sure that there's no way fascinating individuals here.
Speaker 2: I gotta remember that. Let's see five days, it's four
Speaker 2: days of Danes, death and depravity. They probably have, They
Speaker 2: probably have awesome After dude, there's gonna be so many
Speaker 2: people fucking in the back of hearses at this event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully me too.
Speaker 2: Is that your Is that your is that your goal
Speaker 2: to get laid in a hearse?
Speaker 1: That would be pretty sick. It's on my bucket list
Speaker 1: for sure, just like trying to find the white, right,
Speaker 1: weird girl that wants to fuck in the back of
Speaker 1: a hearse.
Speaker 2: Oh you this is this seems to be the place
Speaker 2: to find people who are down to have sex in
Speaker 2: the back of a hearse. You're right, okay, Yeah, I'm suck.
Speaker 2: You got to call back in at some point, and
Speaker 2: I want to hear more about how this went. Who
Speaker 2: are the musical acts, who's performing?
Speaker 1: I got I got no clue, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I'm just going for the festivities and to take it
Speaker 1: all in.
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is the Decay and Shine
Speaker 2: Hearst Show. What are the Yeah, okay, they got a
Speaker 2: lot of vendors. This is crazy. Okay. As for the
Speaker 2: money aspect, this event is free for hearse drivers. I
Speaker 2: promise this is not an advertisement for Herst Con. I
Speaker 2: will Alan Alan drs Hurst Con. We have gone to
Speaker 2: great lengths to make sure every part this is like
Speaker 2: a free event. Yeah, damn. The whole thing is dan.
Speaker 2: The Hearst community is great. What I love it. I
Speaker 2: love niche weird little things.
Speaker 1: I can tell mister Yetko, what do.
Speaker 2: You like about What do you like about hearses so much? Dakota.
Speaker 1: I'm not a truck guy, but I do love storage.
Speaker 1: So a hearse is just a truck with the top
Speaker 1: on it. That's that's how I look at it. I
Speaker 1: do have a casket in the back of my hearse
Speaker 1: right now, which takes up a lot of rooms. But
Speaker 1: like when we're shooting the movie, it was an absolute
Speaker 1: joy to have because you can just fill up the
Speaker 1: hearse full of everything you need to shoot on location.
Speaker 1: And yes, space is not an issue. Gas knowledge is okay.
Speaker 1: And it's a super nice Cadillac that so I want
Speaker 1: a two thousand and four Cadillac Hurse that only has
Speaker 1: forty miles on it. The whole thing's pristine, and they're
Speaker 1: pretty cheap if you did want to buy one. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of a life hack. I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I ask again. There's no person in the casket, is there? Uh?
Speaker 1: Normally there's a skeleton right now. He's at work. Wait
Speaker 1: what So normally you know, like those really crappy Halloween skeletons.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay, yeah, normally.
Speaker 1: I keep in the casket.
Speaker 2: But yep, aren't we all just skeletons at work?
Speaker 1: We are?
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask the chat. I'm going to ask
Speaker 2: the I'm streaming live on Twitch right now. I'm going
Speaker 2: to ask the twitch chat if they have any questions.
Speaker 2: If you guys want to put some questions of the
Speaker 2: chat and I'll read them out. So do you do you?
Speaker 2: But do you use the hearse for? Like? You don't?
Speaker 2: You never have worked for like a procession?
Speaker 1: No? No, it was being used earlier this year. It
Speaker 1: got retired in February. But I've never used it as
Speaker 1: in a procession.
Speaker 2: Someone said, I'm so stupid. I thought this guy was
Speaker 2: talking about horses the whole time. Oh okay, someone says,
Speaker 2: what do you typically haul in the hearse?
Speaker 1: Right now? It's just been a casket. But because I
Speaker 1: I whol a bunch of mel stuff. Whenever I buy
Speaker 1: pinball machines, arcade game stuff like that, throw it in
Speaker 1: the back, have the rollers so everything slides super easily,
Speaker 1: and then all the all the movie stuff are like productions.
Speaker 2: The way you said that, you know, whenever I buy
Speaker 2: pinball machines is if that's like that's like a monthly
Speaker 2: purchase for you.
Speaker 1: I wish it was one day.
Speaker 2: What's the Yeah, what's the gas mileage? Was it get
Speaker 2: to the gallon on the freeway?
Speaker 1: I can get around seventeen streets. It's around thirteen to fourteen.
Speaker 2: How did you get into how'd you get into metalworking?
Speaker 1: I really wanted to build the Hallween amatronics in the
Speaker 1: Hallween industry, and then I just went to welding school
Speaker 1: at a local community college. Did that for two years,
Speaker 1: and then I found a local glass blowing shop that
Speaker 1: picked me up. And that's how I fell into art
Speaker 1: and everything like that.
Speaker 2: Someone says, do you wear a lot of black? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like what's your aesthetic?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I pretty much wear black jeans. I have a
Speaker 1: black jean jacket that's four patches and pins, normally a
Speaker 1: black band T shirt. I do have platform boots that
Speaker 1: I do wear for special occasions. Yeah, pretty much all black.
Speaker 2: Let's see here. Oh, someone wants to know what's your
Speaker 2: most prized pinball machine. I'm curious about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got a Texas chainsaw masker pinball machine.
Speaker 1: You got a Texas.
Speaker 2: Oh, you got a Texas chainsaw masker pinball machine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's so cool? Does it? I like because I like
Speaker 2: pinball machines that have Okay, so some pinball machines they're
Speaker 2: like flat and they just like like the theming is
Speaker 2: all just like stickers and texture, you know, and those
Speaker 2: are kind of lanes. Yeah, But then I love I
Speaker 2: love the pinball machines that have like built like figures
Speaker 2: in them, you know what I mean, like a big
Speaker 2: fucking like Homer Simpson. Right, what is the what's the
Speaker 2: what's the breakdown of the Texas Chainsaw Masaker pinball machine?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So it has a spinning leather face inside of it.
Speaker 1: It has hooks in the back that you can like
Speaker 1: lock balls on because in the movie they put a
Speaker 1: girl on a meat hook. You have a freezer that
Speaker 1: a girl pops out of, and then you have a
Speaker 1: working meat grinder that the pinball can fall into, and
Speaker 1: then the meat grinder turns and then it falls out
Speaker 1: somewhere else.
Speaker 2: How much did you spend on this? How much did
Speaker 2: you spend on this Texas chainsaw Maskaer pinball machine?
Speaker 1: Ten grand.
Speaker 2: Interesting ten thousand dollars on a Texas chainsaw a masker
Speaker 2: pinball machine. I feel like, you know what, honestly, I'll
Speaker 2: go because I was just I was just talking a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of shit about people who spent ten thousand
Speaker 2: dollars on a metal cactus personally, because but here's the thing, right,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think a Texas chaninsaw mask I guess
Speaker 2: I think I think a Texas chainsaw masker pinball machine
Speaker 2: is is that that's not as embarrassing of a purchase
Speaker 2: to me as a metal cactus, but to such, but
Speaker 2: there exists people out there who would be who would
Speaker 2: buy a ten thousand dollars metal cactus. That would be like,
Speaker 2: why the fuck would you buy a ten thousand dollars
Speaker 2: Texas chainsaw massacre pinball machine? And thus is the nature
Speaker 2: of life? This is the that's that's that's how we're
Speaker 2: gonna get esoteric with this? Is that you know, some
Speaker 2: some to some people. Oh fuck, where was I going
Speaker 2: with this? What was I going to say?
Speaker 1: Esoteric with life? Some people spend ten thousand dollars on
Speaker 1: a cactus, ten thousand dollars on a pinball machine, fulfilling
Speaker 1: your passions? Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: Bro, This one's I'm looking this up online. This one's
Speaker 2: only two grand.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the deposit. Oh okay, yeah, I just look
Speaker 1: two grand for the deposit.
Speaker 2: Okay, all in all caps. On this website, it says
Speaker 2: this is a pre ordered deposit. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My my local arcade has a south Park pinball machine,
Speaker 1: and every time I see it, I think of you
Speaker 1: because you said it once on a podcast.
Speaker 2: I do you know what I was about to say
Speaker 2: just now that I'm a fan of the south Park
Speaker 2: pin mall machine. And then I'm now realizing that it
Speaker 2: is funny to me that I've said that on this
Speaker 2: podcast before. But I'm a fan of the south Park
Speaker 2: pin machine. No, I like the ones that I've said.
Speaker 2: The south Park pem machine is good. It's got stuff
Speaker 2: in it. What's your favorite pin mall machine of all time?
Speaker 2: What's your favorite one?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Uh uh, you put me on the spot. Uh, probably
Speaker 1: of all the time. There's an Alice Cooper pinball machine.
Speaker 1: It's called Alice Cooper's Network Castle. That's probably my favorite
Speaker 1: pinball machine. Its almost has a whole bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Someone wants to know how old you are.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I'm twenty.
Speaker 2: You're twenty years old. Yeah, you're twenty years old?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm twenty oh four.
Speaker 2: You're twenty years old. Yeah, dude, you're a crazy that's crazy. God,
Speaker 2: damn what that's what?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Uh you're you're not even old enough to drink?
Speaker 1: I'm not so Yeah, I'm old enough to go to
Speaker 1: Hearst Con.
Speaker 2: You're old enough to go to Hearst Con. Dude, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? What the fuck? When did you start uh
Speaker 2: doing all this? When did you start being who you are?
Speaker 1: Uh? The pinball I started probably when I was like
Speaker 1: eight or ten. My dad threw me into it, and
Speaker 1: that's where that started. The Halloween industry stuff probably started
Speaker 1: like five six years ago. Yeah, And I can't tell
Speaker 1: you why I got into the Halloween stuff. It just
Speaker 1: happened randomly.
Speaker 2: Well, you were doing this, you were doing the Hall.
Speaker 2: You were a scare actor when you were fourteen.
Speaker 1: So I started doing like the welding and the animatronic
Speaker 1: stuff when I was fourteen, and then when I turned sixteen.
Speaker 1: That's the youngest you can be to work as a
Speaker 1: scare actor. So that's when I started.
Speaker 2: Were you playing Chucky?
Speaker 1: Oh? I was not playing Chucky, but I wish I was.
Speaker 2: Damn, bro, you're Hella's this. You're incredibly impressive for a
Speaker 2: twenty year old. It's like most twenty year olds, there's
Speaker 2: no the identity is not even remotely formed. You're like,
Speaker 2: I swear on my life, I would have thought you
Speaker 2: were like thirty four years old.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take that as a compliment.
Speaker 2: Are your parents like really into this shit?
Speaker 1: My dad's really into pinball. Outside of that, they're into
Speaker 1: it because I like it. You know, I'm lucky enough
Speaker 1: to have very supportive parents that helped me out emotionally
Speaker 1: whenever I can, whenever they can, for all the shit
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Cool. Cool. Someone in the chat asked, where do you
Speaker 2: see yourself in five years? Yeah, you got a bright future?
Speaker 2: Or I guess you got to think you have a
Speaker 2: bright future, even though it is even though your future
Speaker 2: will be dark and gothic, it is nonetheless.
Speaker 1: Bright and Yes, in five years, I hope to be
Speaker 1: doing the movie stuff full time. I doubt it will
Speaker 1: take off that fast, but if not, I'll just keep
Speaker 1: on making metal art and playing pinball. I guess.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so cool. Someone in the chat said, adults
Speaker 2: don't spend ten thousand dollars on pinball machines. And I
Speaker 2: want to fight that. And I here's what I'll say,
Speaker 2: isn't well the people spending ten thousand dollars on pinball
Speaker 2: machines are adults, you know, when you're like being twenty,
Speaker 2: you didn't go Did you go into debt to fund
Speaker 2: this pinball machine?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: I literally just bought nothing and saved pretty much.
Speaker 2: That's so cool. Man. Do you live on your own?
Speaker 2: Are you still you still live with your folks?
Speaker 1: I still live with my folks.
Speaker 2: Nice? Nice? Yeah, what's your dad think of? What do
Speaker 2: your parents think about your life?
Speaker 1: They think it's it's super cool. I mean they're they're
Speaker 1: really excited about the movie and everything like that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I still go out with my old man and play pinball.
Speaker 1: He loves doing that. That's like a bonding thing we do.
Speaker 1: And yeah, my mom, she she's just incredibly excited for
Speaker 1: what I have going on. You know, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm so lucky to be with the parents I have.
Speaker 2: God damn, do you have any siblings?
Speaker 1: No? I'm the only child.
Speaker 2: Cool, God damn. And you're what you're in Denver?
Speaker 5: Uh No?
Speaker 1: I live in I live in Wichitak, Kansas. I'm leaving
Speaker 1: tomorrow for Denver.
Speaker 2: Cool. Are you going with anyone? A, you're just riding solo.
Speaker 1: I'm all right with my old man, yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh he and your old man's coming with you to
Speaker 2: Hearst Cohn.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And you're driving it there in the hearse of course.
Speaker 1: Of course. No barraccarda driving.
Speaker 2: That's so cool. Yeah, I love that. What do your
Speaker 2: folks do?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: My old man he works in public health care, you know,
Speaker 1: low income, low income patience and stuff like that. Primarily
Speaker 1: does dntal work. And then my mom she's a lunch
Speaker 1: lady at a high school.
Speaker 2: Damn, damn, that's so dude, that's so cool. You got
Speaker 2: such a cool Oh man, you're you're in an incredibly
Speaker 2: impressive uh twenty year old It's incredibly impressive. This life.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Dicko. That means a lot coming
Speaker 1: from you.
Speaker 2: That's fascinating. God, Damn, I feel like I have more
Speaker 2: questions for you. I'm gonna look back at the chat.
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to begin. Someone said, someone said, oh,
Speaker 2: someone said, I love that A cool weird kid in Kansas.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh no, someone said, A cool weird kid in Kansas.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to kill himself. This is insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing to do in Kansas, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of weird kids. Fat Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: You you it's well. Yeah, for there being nothing to
Speaker 2: do in Kansas, you seem to be doing a lot
Speaker 2: of things. Yeah, what are your what are you? What
Speaker 2: are some of your other life goals? Dakota? What else
Speaker 2: is uh on the ringer for you?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh the white picket. Since wife and kids, that's
Speaker 1: always been something I wanted to do. Outside that, I
Speaker 1: do want to become like top well of the top
Speaker 1: ten pinball players in the world, hopefully by the time
Speaker 1: I'm old and decrepit. Outside that, I just want to
Speaker 1: keep on making movies.
Speaker 2: How often are you playing pimball? How many hours you're
Speaker 2: putting in here?
Speaker 1: I try to play daily if I can. If not,
Speaker 1: I'll play on average. I probably play like four or
Speaker 1: five times a week for at least an hour and
Speaker 1: a half two hours.
Speaker 2: Do you go to tournaments?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: How do you How do you do?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Normally I do pretty good, uh top three at least
Speaker 1: sometimes second and first, but that's rarer.
Speaker 2: Hm hm.
Speaker 4: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm inspired by you. Dakota. You got you got a
Speaker 2: cool story.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you this what I I I know,
Speaker 2: we've been shooting the ship for like forty five minutes
Speaker 2: or something like that, But when you called in initially,
Speaker 2: was there like a specific thing that you wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about or just just chat?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to chat. I mean I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about first Con. But we've gone over that. I
Speaker 1: mean we've gone over like all the points I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about, which is insane.
Speaker 2: Uh oh. Someone says, uh, when can we watch the movie?
Speaker 2: Do you do you have any idea?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now we're told this. It's coming out on
Speaker 1: shutter and the name of the movie is called Chasing Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Chasing Tomorrow. How many shoot days did you guys? Have?
Speaker 1: We shot for seven days?
Speaker 2: You shot for seven days? And you just can I ask?
Speaker 2: Can I ask? What the budget was?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The budget was ten grand?
Speaker 2: Ten grand? Okay. I like the I like the way
Speaker 2: you spend your money, my friend.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: It. No, no, no, I'm saying I'm honestly saying that
Speaker 2: very sincerely. I really, I really am. I love that.
Speaker 2: I love you. Just saved up twenty grand. You just
Speaker 2: grind it out, twenty grand, no inheritance, no fucking you
Speaker 2: just grinded it out. And now you have a horror
Speaker 2: movie with shutter and a Texas chainsawmasker pinball machine. That's peace,
Speaker 2: really truly living the dream. Do you make like uh
Speaker 2: b if you want, before we go, you can shout
Speaker 2: yourself out. Do you make like YouTube videos? Or do
Speaker 2: you do you have anything to plug? You wanna? I
Speaker 2: don't know if if if one of these days you
Speaker 2: want to crown fun the fucking thing? Like, where can
Speaker 2: the people find you if you want them to find you?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The only place I would plug would be my Instagram.
Speaker 1: I don't make YouTube videos I've been wanting to, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll plug my Instagram.
Speaker 2: Go ahead if you want.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's pinball Pro lol.
Speaker 2: That's it though, No no underscores or anything. Pinball Pro lol.
Speaker 1: Yep, and it is private, but I'll add anyone. I
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 2: Okay, And here's a question I got Okay, and this
Speaker 2: might be a stupid question, but how does one be
Speaker 2: good at pinball? It feels like there's so little there's
Speaker 2: there's only really two inputs that you can make.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so yeah, it's all it's all timing
Speaker 1: and just like getting control of the ball. So with
Speaker 1: your pinball machine, you got obviously both flippers on each side,
Speaker 1: but you can choose like how late or early to
Speaker 1: shoot the ball, so you can like aim your shots.
Speaker 1: And then from there it's just like learning the rules
Speaker 1: of the game, starting modes, multi ball, all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: What's the worst pinball machine?
Speaker 1: Oh uh, that's machine I I really do not like
Speaker 1: a pinball machine called Raven. It was made in the eighties.
Speaker 1: It's like a knockoff Rambow pinball machine.
Speaker 2: M m hmm. Do you play any like like online
Speaker 2: pin bowler? Is that? Is that shit stupid to you?
Speaker 1: I do it. I do it primarily to learn the
Speaker 1: rules of like a game that I don't have access to.
Speaker 1: But most of the time it's not good for like
Speaker 1: building your scale of like reaction time or aiming, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's an online video game. It can't
Speaker 1: be as accurate and random as real life.
Speaker 2: Well, Dakota, ah man, this was a great This was
Speaker 2: a ten out of ten phone call. I'm extremely happy
Speaker 2: that you called in to share all of this. This
Speaker 2: is great. This is wonderful. I hope you have an
Speaker 2: awesome time at Herst Con. Please report back, Please let
Speaker 2: us know. I don't know, send me, send me like
Speaker 2: an email for the gek mail or something I don't
Speaker 2: know or don't You don't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: Every now I'll see an email. I'll send you some
Speaker 1: pictures and go.
Speaker 2: Please yeah, please please please? Okay, next time I do
Speaker 2: an email episode, send me, send me some some pictures, therapy.
Speaker 2: Getcko mail at gmail dot com. Send me. I want
Speaker 2: to hear the full report on Herst Con. We we
Speaker 2: all we they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotcha, beautiful.
Speaker 2: Oh, this was great. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm this. This
Speaker 2: is a weird thing to say to to to a stranger,
Speaker 2: but I'm proud of you, Dakota. You got You're really
Speaker 2: doing it out here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Gek.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I have waited to hear that for so long. Uh,
Speaker 1: go out there, play more pinball. That's all I got.
Speaker 2: Beautiful, Take care, Dakota.
Speaker 1: Yeah you too, I'll see you later.
Speaker 2: Wow, I I as I cannot believe that person was
Speaker 2: twenty years old. That's hilarious. That's utterly insane. Wow, he
Speaker 2: sold a movie building trillion dollar cactuses and he's there
Speaker 2: and I I will say, and somebody in the chat,
Speaker 2: uh mentioned this because like growing up if you were okay,
Speaker 2: because growing up right, like if you were at a
Speaker 2: kid's house and they had a pinball machine, like their
Speaker 2: parents were rich, that's like a classic like rich person
Speaker 2: thing and so and but then when he was like, no,
Speaker 2: I just fucking saved up and grind it for all
Speaker 2: that shit, I'm like, damn, that's hella impressive, an impressive person.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear their trip Purport. Hello, Hello, Hey,
Speaker 2: what is your name?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear you. What's your name?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 4: My name is Skeet.
Speaker 2: Skeet. That's cool. Uh. That's like it's like, that's like
Speaker 2: shooting skee that's from Mario and Sonic in the Olympic Games.
Speaker 2: It's actually not from Mario and Sonic in the Olympic Games.
Speaker 2: It was I think it's a act. Would you call
Speaker 2: it sk a sport or an activity? I know it's
Speaker 2: been around for I don't think. I don't think Mario
Speaker 2: and Sonic in the Olympic games came up with it. No,
Speaker 2: they definitely no.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it like shooting or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they did. Maybe they came up with it.
Speaker 2: They're pretty smart, those two guys. They're pretty smart guys. Mario.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they would be so successful if
Speaker 2: they weren't so smart. Mario and Sonic, they have a
Speaker 2: lot of idea. I wonder what yo, what if instead
Speaker 2: of like yo, what if Mario was the CEO of Nintendo,
Speaker 2: like like that was like, it's not actually a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'd be crazy. What's your name, Skeekee sket If you
Speaker 2: don't start talking, I'm gonna go on and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: start saying a bunch of really stupid things.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, So actually one thing I wanted to say
Speaker 4: is actually more like ask you is are you? Are
Speaker 4: you ever gonna have guests back on the show again?
Speaker 2: Am I ever gonna have guests back on the show again? Uh?
Speaker 2: There's no one that well, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Is there's no one in particular that I'm like dying
Speaker 2: to have on.
Speaker 4: I guess Okay, can I can I make a can
Speaker 4: I make a proposition?
Speaker 1: Then? Maybe or a request?
Speaker 4: If you can can you get Zach Fox back on
Speaker 4: the show, because that episode is probably like my favorite
Speaker 4: episode that you put out, well, one of them, I
Speaker 4: don't want to say my favorite. It is definitely one
Speaker 4: of my favorite episode that you put out a while back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Zach Zak Fox was one of my favorite
Speaker 2: guests too. I thought he was I thought he was
Speaker 2: great on that episode. I really liked it.
Speaker 4: I didn't expect him to be like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: he seems like like a wide dude, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: because helping people and he was on acid, was.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that work.
Speaker 4: Then I was just like yeah, I was just sitting
Speaker 4: there thinking about that. I was like, damn, Like, I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure I've been in the same same kind of
Speaker 4: situation as that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I really liked that episode. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I think he's I don't know where he
Speaker 2: is in the universe but right now where he lives
Speaker 2: or what he's what he's exactly exactly up to. But
Speaker 2: maybe yeah, maybe if he comes uh around New York,
Speaker 2: I'll hit him back up. But anyway, anyway, enough about
Speaker 2: enough about Zach Fox, enough about me use skates for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if like the sound sick or anything.
Speaker 4: I came home early from work.
Speaker 2: Today because you were sick.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was weird.
Speaker 4: Like I take adderall and so when I first started
Speaker 4: taking it, it would like make my stomach feel like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, kind of weird. And then I don't know,
Speaker 4: you know, what does vibance do that for you? Or
Speaker 4: like it makes you feel almost kind of like sick
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know. It doesn't make me like nauseous
Speaker 2: or anything like that.
Speaker 4: I know it's like one of the side effects. And
Speaker 4: it's weird because when I started taking it, I uh,
Speaker 4: I would feel that, but then over time it's it
Speaker 4: kind of like went away. I think it's like one
Speaker 4: of those those things that like the side effects that
Speaker 4: happened for like the first like week or two of
Speaker 4: trying new medication. But I took my I took my
Speaker 4: medication today and I went to work, and when I
Speaker 4: got there, like my stomach just started feeling really weird.
Speaker 4: So I ended up going home early today and I
Speaker 4: was honestly just chilling when I saw your podcast, and
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I gotta go talk to lie because.
Speaker 2: You should you should tell all of it. By the way,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. You probably already are, but
Speaker 2: you should definitely tell all this to a doctor and
Speaker 2: it uh and not just me. You should tell all
Speaker 2: that to a doctor.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just went to the doctor and they actually like
Speaker 4: upped my prescription. So yeah, I don't know how that works.
Speaker 2: But how long? How long did they give you to live?
Speaker 4: They didn't They actually walked in dead. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I want to actually go I don't have any terminal diseases,
Speaker 2: but I would like to go to the doctor and
Speaker 2: like get my blood tested and be like, hey, based
Speaker 2: on everything that you're that you know about me from
Speaker 2: looking at my blood and pee, how long do I
Speaker 2: have to live? Because I I I I don't know
Speaker 2: if one of them would be like, listen, you eat
Speaker 2: too many hot tamalies every day and so you probably
Speaker 2: you're probably would be lucky if you make it to
Speaker 2: your sixties.
Speaker 4: I like the idea of doing that, but I also
Speaker 4: hate it because I know that I want to know
Speaker 4: if there's something wrong with me, But there's like that
Speaker 4: whole other side that's like if there is something wrong,
Speaker 4: I kind of just want to live in ignorance a
Speaker 4: little bit and like enjoy my time, you know, if
Speaker 4: it's some terminal shit, I just want to like live
Speaker 4: in in blissful ignorance and enjoy my time on this earth.
Speaker 4: And then you know, when you find out it's too late,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, well shit.
Speaker 2: You know, diagnosis is the first step to treatment though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like a lot not a lot of time,
Speaker 4: but like you know, like treatment is still I guess
Speaker 4: sort of fifty to fifty. It's like you could find
Speaker 4: out that you have like stage two cancer and they're like,
Speaker 4: you know, you could try to do something about it,
Speaker 4: but it's no gear and tea. So then it's like
Speaker 4: you're now living the rest of your life with that
Speaker 4: well possibly the rest of your life with that stress
Speaker 4: being like damn, am I going to live? Or am
Speaker 4: I going to die? Whereas if you don't know anything,
Speaker 4: you just one day get the news and you're like, damn,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna die. But then when you look back on
Speaker 4: your life, that ending, sorry, my throat's fucked up. That
Speaker 4: ending part of your life is going to be like
Speaker 4: relatively positive memories instead of like that that uphill battle
Speaker 4: with cancer. Don't like my grandfather passed away from cancer,
Speaker 4: and like he chose to take chemo, and I watched,
Speaker 4: I watched him deteriorate from like my grandfather that I
Speaker 4: knew to like, uh, like the shell of the person
Speaker 4: he once was before he passed away. So like I
Speaker 4: think about that. That plays on my mind, and I'm
Speaker 4: just thinking, like, man, he chose to do that, which
Speaker 4: is cool, and we're all grateful because we've got to
Speaker 4: spend more time with him. But like, at the same time,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I could put myself through that.
Speaker 4: Even though I love my family and my friends and everything,
Speaker 4: I want more time with them, you know, Like I
Speaker 4: want to still make the best decision for myself in
Speaker 4: a situation like that. So like, you know, because dude,
Speaker 4: I think about that all the time. Like I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm a bit of a hypochondriac. Is that what
Speaker 4: it is when you're like afraid of afraid of like
Speaker 4: being sick. Yeah, yeah, I feel like I'm I'm a
Speaker 4: bit of a hypochondriac because like, like I found a
Speaker 4: fucking dude, I found a birthmark or like a mole
Speaker 4: on my shoulder like a month ago, and then I
Speaker 4: ever since that day, I was going through my camera roll,
Speaker 4: just like scrolling back to the farthest date where I
Speaker 4: could maybe see like like you know, like see if
Speaker 4: it was there at this time in my life. And
Speaker 4: I like found a picture where I could see it
Speaker 4: from like three years ago. But I was still tripping
Speaker 4: out thinking like what if I have skin cancer? And
Speaker 4: like I went to my doctor and they looked at
Speaker 4: it and they're like, noah, where you're just tripping So like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'll be thinking about that shit too much.
Speaker 4: I need to stop thinking about that shit.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting but that's an interesting thing of Uh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So like if you had like a terminal illness, would
Speaker 2: you like you're like, okay, I could fight it, but
Speaker 2: the fight, uh, but the fight might deteriorate me. And
Speaker 2: I want to go out, you know, let's just go
Speaker 2: out letting it. Let me just let it kill me.
Speaker 2: But I can still.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like it's pretty it's for me, it's circumstantial
Speaker 4: because like if I go to a doctor and they
Speaker 4: say you have some kind of terminal illness, this is
Speaker 4: the treatment and this is the likelihood of like surviving,
Speaker 4: that all determines it. Like if they tell me it's
Speaker 4: like a fifty to fifty shot, then I'll try it.
Speaker 4: But I mean if I don't see any results within
Speaker 4: like the first maybe like six months, then I think
Speaker 4: I would just stop because I'm I you know what,
Speaker 4: when I say this, I think of chemo, because like
Speaker 4: chemo's just so aggressive and invasive that it's like I
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to put myself through that. It's just a
Speaker 4: different treatment though, and like the side effects are like
Speaker 4: pretty chill, then like yeah, whatever, but like I don't
Speaker 4: want to put myself through anything that. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you if you go to the doctor
Speaker 2: and they're like, Okay, you're terminally ill, and there's a
Speaker 2: we can do chemotherapy, but there's only a five percent
Speaker 2: chance that it works, you're gonna be like, ev fuck that.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go to McDonald's and finish myself off.
Speaker 4: So five percent, absolutely hundred percent, I'm just taking I'm
Speaker 4: taking whatever I have left, and I'm like, I'm dude,
Speaker 4: I'm doing everything that I've always wanted to do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what. As a matter of fact, I'm even
Speaker 4: gonna let the intrusive thoughts win. Bro like go rob
Speaker 4: a bank or something, and and give the money to
Speaker 4: my family before I go, you know, like go out
Speaker 4: in a blaze.
Speaker 2: You Know What's funny is what in in times that
Speaker 2: I've felt very depressed, I almost I almost view birth
Speaker 2: as a terminal illness, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: when I've and I've been like, uh, I've almost viewed
Speaker 2: birth as a terminal illness. And when people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got to exercise and eat, well, I've been like,
Speaker 2: what's the point of doing that. I'm just I have
Speaker 2: a terminal illness, of of of of being a human
Speaker 2: being that dies inevitably. This is when I'm really depressed.
Speaker 2: This is when I'm like, really, there's an Onion article.
Speaker 2: There's a great Onion article that goes, uh, existentialist firefighter
Speaker 2: delays three deaths, and I was with and it's a
Speaker 2: great but I I like, I literally have had eras
Speaker 2: of my life where I felt like that, and it
Speaker 2: was and it was I was in a moment where
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well, I'm I'm terminally ill. I'm
Speaker 2: not even gonna fight this because uh, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: die anyway. Let me just do all this crap.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But and now, but I'm actually I've been feeling, but
Speaker 2: then when I'm feeling, but then when I'm in the
Speaker 2: opposite and I'm like, uh, really enjoy what. I'm really
Speaker 2: enjoying life. I'm not depressed. I'm I'm like, I'm like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 2: I gotta actually like this. I want to I want
Speaker 2: to keep we gotta keep going. I gotta start drinking
Speaker 2: water and eating chicken salad. And you know why I
Speaker 2: want to Actually I want to fight this. I want
Speaker 2: to let's keep this ship going.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: My problem with that is like inconsistent because it's the
Speaker 4: same thing. You know, like you get these you get
Speaker 4: these like like spurts of motivation to like be the
Speaker 4: best version of yourself, and then I don't know for me,
Speaker 4: they kind of like fizzle out, and then I go
Speaker 4: back to like kind of just being a piece of
Speaker 4: shit for a while. And it's like a cycle, you know,
Speaker 4: like you get to a point where you're like, damn,
Speaker 4: I'm tired of this ship, and then you start doing
Speaker 4: you start doing the good ship for yourself, start really
Speaker 4: looking after yourself, and then you're just like, damn it,
Speaker 4: shit's a lot of work. You know, like I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go back to being a piece of shit because it
Speaker 4: was easier, you know, like being a bad No.
Speaker 2: No, I know, no, no, no, I know, I know, I know,
Speaker 2: I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to do anybody dirt or anything.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I I told some I was talking
Speaker 2: to someone at some point where I was. I don't
Speaker 2: remember exactly what I said, but I said something like, yeah,
Speaker 2: as long as I don't as long as I don't
Speaker 2: like be an asshole and eat a bunch of Twizzlers.
Speaker 2: I said something like that, and they were like, what
Speaker 2: do you mean being How does eating twizzlers make you
Speaker 2: an asshole? And I'm like, you don't understand what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to what I'm.
Speaker 4: You just don't if you know, you know, if.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, if you know, you know, if
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: I was just about to say, do you like Twizzlers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I like Twizzlers. I like to pull
Speaker 2: apart Twizzlers, the cherry ones with the rope. I like
Speaker 2: the I even like when someone had an aneurysm over
Speaker 2: at Hershey's and they made the chocolate Twizzlers. I like
Speaker 2: those even Oh my god, what's your name again? Ski Skeet,
Speaker 2: they have orange creamsicle Twizzlers where they stuff orange cream
Speaker 2: into orange twizzlers. I'll tell you how much is Let
Speaker 2: me ask you something, SKEI. This is a question I
Speaker 2: asked myself. How much better is year sixty through eighty
Speaker 2: of my life going to be than orange creamsicle Twizzlers.
Speaker 2: That's a real cost benefit analysis that I must do
Speaker 2: in my head. How much better is year sixty through
Speaker 2: eight of my life gonna be then orange creamsacle Twizzlers?
Speaker 4: Hey, if the orange creamsicle Twizzlers are there, then it's
Speaker 4: gonna be as good as the first day you had them.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be as good as the first day I
Speaker 2: had them.
Speaker 4: Have I ever had those twizzlers that have it's like
Speaker 4: they're like lemon and strawberry flavored, and they have this
Speaker 4: like it's it's almost like a cream but not a
Speaker 4: cream filling inside. It's like this. I don't know, but
Speaker 4: those and I'll be honest with you, I'm not a
Speaker 4: huge Twizzlers fan. Don't hate them, don't love them, But
Speaker 4: those Twizzlers were a staple growing up for me that
Speaker 4: I can't find anymore. And when they left, it was
Speaker 4: like a part of my childhood, like a very formative
Speaker 4: part of my childhood vanished with them, you know, Like
Speaker 4: I I'm telling you, like I was eating these Twizzlers,
Speaker 4: damn near every day in the summer of like twenty
Speaker 4: eleven all the way up to twenty fourteen, like those
Speaker 4: three summers, Twiddlers every day and those exact ones, and
Speaker 4: I can't find them anymore.
Speaker 2: We can't do we can't do this, Skip, we can't
Speaker 2: do this. We we we we can't do this.
Speaker 4: Ski.
Speaker 2: We gotta we can't do this. We gotta.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I know, it's just we can I oh man ah fuck,
Speaker 2: it's too much. Maybe it's not too much. I don't
Speaker 2: know how people do it. I don't know how. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know how people do. I don't know
Speaker 2: how people don't. I don't know how people regulate themselves,
Speaker 2: you know, Like you know, like like when I talk,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like a guy, Like like there's guys
Speaker 2: out there who floss every day. How do you do?
Speaker 2: What do you do? How do you do that? There's
Speaker 2: guys out there they floss every day, They go to
Speaker 2: the doctor twice a year like they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: They go to the dentist twice the other are supposed
Speaker 2: to do they they don't. They eat candy once a
Speaker 2: month maybe, and every every dinner is salmon and rice
Speaker 2: and broccoli, and they just do it and it's it's
Speaker 2: it's not a fight for them. How do they And
Speaker 2: they just do it? And that's life. And you know, like,
Speaker 2: how do you what is that? How do you do?
Speaker 2: Is that is that most people do? Most people to live?
Speaker 4: No, No, I don't think most people are like that.
Speaker 4: I think that dude, Like the way that the world
Speaker 4: is now, like where you can see like everybody's lives
Speaker 4: on your phone and on like multiple platforms, like you
Speaker 4: can go see the same person's posts on Facebook and
Speaker 4: Instagram and whatever whatever, and like people are only showing
Speaker 4: each other what they want other people to see, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And like from the outside, it
Speaker 4: looks so it looks it looks like it looks like
Speaker 4: the life, you know, like it looks like for a
Speaker 4: lot of people, what we want to have. And little
Speaker 4: do we know these people are probably on the same
Speaker 4: ship that we are, where they're like not properly taking
Speaker 4: care of themselves.
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, I'm gonna actually I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 2: fight with you on this on like because I'm like,
Speaker 2: who do I felt like, uh, I'm gonna fight with this.
Speaker 2: There my these observations that I'm making of, like these
Speaker 2: people who like they did right? These are not the
Speaker 2: people I see on the internet. These are people I
Speaker 2: meet in real life mainly, Like I'll be like like
Speaker 2: if like if my sister has a friend over and
Speaker 2: I'm talking or whatever, and I'm like like, like I'm
Speaker 2: talking about these are real life people, know the people?
Speaker 2: These are the people I see on Instagram? Like like,
Speaker 2: uh what, I'm trying to think of an example here?
Speaker 2: Hold on, can you give me one second. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go on my Instagram real quick. I'm okay, Like who
Speaker 2: do I like? Who's on my Instagram feed right now?
Speaker 2: This is who? Like, who's a popular Who's a musician
Speaker 2: that you like that you follow?
Speaker 6: I follow?
Speaker 2: Like Asap Rocky doesn't floss There's no way, not Like,
Speaker 2: that's not That's not who I'm talking about. I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about like when you see I don't think Asap
Speaker 2: Rocky flosses. I don't know. I don't know if he does.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess the.
Speaker 4: Picture that guy's teeth is is like his teeth are perfect.
Speaker 4: He either has veneers or something. So that's maybe a
Speaker 4: bad example because like if he has been nears and
Speaker 4: I feel like it's probably not flossing. But like, actually,
Speaker 4: I guess that's your point. Then if he does have vernieres,
Speaker 4: he doesn't have to flaws because like veneers can't get
Speaker 4: cavities or whatever. But a better example Thundercat. I love Thundercat,
Speaker 4: do definitely doesn't flows.
Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, I don't know. I don't I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know I Thundercat or as a Rock, I
Speaker 2: don't know if they floss. But like you know, when
Speaker 2: you go to the bank and you see a guy
Speaker 2: there and you're like, this is the guy flosses. That's
Speaker 2: where that's where I see people who floss more in
Speaker 2: real life than I do on the internet.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair. I feel like, you know what, at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I like to say this
Speaker 4: with like everything, like everything is circumstantial, and I think
Speaker 4: it is circumstantial, like with where you work or where
Speaker 4: you are or who you surround yourself with. If you're
Speaker 4: if you do things like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like there's no disrespect to construction workers, but like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you go to a construction worker site, none of those
Speaker 4: dudes flows. Those guys barely know how how to like
Speaker 4: clean themselves properly, you know, like don't even know how
Speaker 4: to wipe their ass properly. Type shit, No disrespect to
Speaker 4: construction workers. I think construction workers are smart people, but
Speaker 4: it's like in terms of taking care of themselves, Like
Speaker 4: I see like all these memes on Instagram where like
Speaker 4: construction workers are coming in and out of places and
Speaker 4: getting like the worst possible foods you can eat every
Speaker 4: day on a daily basis. So like when you surround
Speaker 4: yourself with other people that are like that, you inevitably
Speaker 4: start to become like that. Whereas like your example, where
Speaker 4: you're at the bank, you know, and you look at
Speaker 4: the type of people that you're surrounded with at the bank,
Speaker 4: like your colleagues, and shit, everybody's really well put together,
Speaker 4: like you kind of have to. And then once you're
Speaker 4: surrounded by that those kinds of people that are like
Speaker 4: to have their shit together, you inevitably start to get
Speaker 4: your shit together because like it's it's I don't know,
Speaker 4: you just playing the part right of like the piece
Speaker 4: that you're surrounded by. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 4: that makes sense. And that's why I think everything like
Speaker 4: that is all circumstantial, Like I say that with everything
Speaker 4: to be honest. So I don't know. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm weird like that. I guess I don't, you know, ski.
Speaker 2: I actually, I actually have been flossing lately at night.
Speaker 2: If at night, if I get if i'm home early,
Speaker 2: if i'm home and I'm chilling and it's around it's
Speaker 2: like nine thirty, I'm not leaving my house at night,
Speaker 2: I floss.
Speaker 6: I use.
Speaker 2: Mouthwash. This is a recent development. This is I started
Speaker 2: doing this three days ago. I started doing I started
Speaker 2: doing this. Hold on. I started doing this every other
Speaker 2: day three days ago, and the first day was an
Speaker 2: off day. So so I did this once and I
Speaker 2: f lost. Use some anti gingervitis whatever the fuck thing,
Speaker 2: and I promise you that I'm gonna get my gums
Speaker 2: to stop bleeding. I didn't realize that everyone. I didn't realize. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I play this game now when I walk down the
Speaker 2: street where I'm like, yeah, does this person floss and
Speaker 2: do their gums? Do their gums? Because they're not supposed
Speaker 2: to do that, skeet.
Speaker 4: No, well, if you if you were to lost like
Speaker 4: multiple like, if you've floss every day, then your gums
Speaker 4: just stop bleeding.
Speaker 3: Skei.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 4: My parting words, Yeah, let's just say be a good person.
Speaker 4: Fuck that, just get money, fucking lile forever. Baby, let's go.
Speaker 2: Good luck ski, good luck. That's all I got. That's
Speaker 2: all good luck. Man, You're gonna We're gonna floss. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna floss tonight because of you. That didn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: But so it'll be like we're flossing together a little.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit. I'll think of you, Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: bye bye. It's like it's like like we both have
Speaker 2: our own floss. What is the it's what is that
Speaker 2: pillow someone someone havanted a pillow that lights up when okay,
Speaker 2: there's two pillows and you have one, and then like
Speaker 2: your your girlfriend has one, and like if she's if
Speaker 2: your girlfriend's like uh across the world in a different
Speaker 2: place and she puts her head on the pillow, your
Speaker 2: pillow lights up and both the pillows light up at
Speaker 2: the same time. So it's kind of like gives like
Speaker 2: the illusion that we're together. You know that she did
Speaker 2: that was floss picks. Like if I'm flossing, you're floss
Speaker 2: and it's like we're flossing together. Is that a real thing?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look this up, pillow. I don't have like
Speaker 2: a produce. I don't have like a guy in the
Speaker 2: room with me, forcer person who looks things up. So
Speaker 2: I just got to type it myself. Light light up.
Speaker 2: Uh what do I even google? To google this? Light up? Pillow?
Speaker 2: The fucking I'm abandoning this. I'm not googling this anymore.
Speaker 2: I can do whatever I want. I can abandon I
Speaker 2: can say I'm going to google something and then not.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? You can just say
Speaker 2: you're going to google something and talk about it and
Speaker 2: then not do it. It feels great. Hello, Yes, this
Speaker 2: is Thomas Thomas. What's up, Thomas? How you doing well?
Speaker 6: I didn't expect to get on here, but here I am.
Speaker 2: I guess yep, here you are. What are you? What
Speaker 2: were you doing before you called me?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Just chilling out watching the stream. That pinball guy was
Speaker 6: pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that pinball guy was crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 2: really crazy. I do I do you like pimball? I
Speaker 2: love pinball?
Speaker 6: Pimball is pretty cool. Like I've only played it, like
Speaker 6: at arcade and things like that, but otherwise not really.
Speaker 2: It is funny to say that I've only I've only
Speaker 2: played it at an arcade. Where else would you? I
Speaker 2: guess they have they have it in bar, like you know,
Speaker 2: I've never played it at home. I feel like most people, well,
Speaker 2: they have it at bars. I'm trying to thk of
Speaker 2: where else they would have pinball machines.
Speaker 6: Yeah that's true, but mostly it's I go to a bar.
Speaker 2: I played pool, though, Are you a shark? Are you good?
Speaker 6: I'm terrible, But you know, when I'm high, I'm really
Speaker 6: good when you're high. I don't know what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 6: when I'm high, Like, I don't know how I like.
Speaker 6: When I'm sober, my mind does not activate to me
Speaker 6: being good at pool. But when I spoke a little up,
Speaker 6: I am somehow great at pool.
Speaker 2: I've always been fascinated by people who do things better
Speaker 2: when they're stoned. They never made any sense to me, Like, who.
Speaker 6: Is like the only thing I'm good at when I'm stone.
Speaker 2: It's funny. Fine, Uh do you Is there any okay?
Speaker 2: Is so? Is there anything? What are you worse at
Speaker 2: when you're stoned? Are you worse at most other things
Speaker 2: when you're stoned? Uh?
Speaker 6: You just put me on the spot there. I really
Speaker 6: don't know. I guess like I'm very bad at overthinking
Speaker 6: when i'm stoned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what kinds of things do you think about when
Speaker 2: you're stoned and you're overthinking?
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean a lot of the things that
Speaker 6: I I overthink about when i'm stone at the moment
Speaker 6: are over things I overthink about when I'm sober at
Speaker 6: the moment right now, which is why I call it in.
Speaker 2: Say that again. I'm also a little stones, So you
Speaker 2: are so, so things that you overthink about when you're
Speaker 2: in the moment are stones? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Are also things that I think I overthink about at
Speaker 6: the moment when I'm sober.
Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, what are you thinking about right now?
Speaker 6: Well? Last week Tuesday, I just lost my job and
Speaker 6: it was honestly my dream job, and I don't know,
Speaker 6: I don't know what to do with my life now.
Speaker 2: What was the job?
Speaker 6: Oh, it was a supply chain job, so it was
Speaker 6: perfect for me because I'm kind of an introvert and
Speaker 6: I didn't have to deal with people. And before that role,
Speaker 6: I was around a lot of people, like doing like
Speaker 6: more teamwork jobs like construction and not great with people
Speaker 6: because you don't get to pick who you work with.
Speaker 2: M hm. So was that the main reason why the
Speaker 2: job was your dream job? Because it was in supplish
Speaker 2: it because you didn't have to be around people. Was
Speaker 2: there anything else?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I was just answering emails all.
Speaker 2: Day and you like that?
Speaker 6: Oh, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have good, fantastic news for you. What's
Speaker 2: that There are infinite other jobs out there where all
Speaker 2: you have to do is answer emails all day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. I'm currently hunting for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Go, you're luckiest. That's great. Some people's dream jobs are,
Speaker 2: are you know, impossible to find things?
Speaker 6: That's true, very true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're golden on this one. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I'm it feels like I'm in a pregatory state
Speaker 6: at the moment, because like, I'm looking for work at
Speaker 6: the moment and I have nothing. At the same time,
Speaker 6: I'm not freaking out because I have enough money in
Speaker 6: the bank to just chill for a while.
Speaker 2: Why don't you like being around people?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 6: Previous roles people will you don't get to pick who
Speaker 6: you work with, like like you just apply for a
Speaker 6: job and then you get in that role and you
Speaker 6: don't get to pick your coworkers.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: So a lot of the time, because I worked in
Speaker 6: those positions, there were people quite frustrating to be around,
Speaker 6: and it's made me just hate people to be like, Oh,
Speaker 6: if I could just be alone, like in an office
Speaker 6: for like all my life, this is peace?
Speaker 2: Hm. Hm Can I sek how old you are? I'm
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty eight And have you had like jobs
Speaker 2: like that where you're alone before?
Speaker 6: No? This was like my first one and I had
Speaker 6: it for like about two years, but uh had to
Speaker 6: let me go because I said, it was a business decision.
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Shit happens.
Speaker 2: Life goes on. M M. When did you lose your job?
Speaker 6: Uh? Last week on Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Yeah I think you said that. Yeah, sorry, Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: I am a little I'm a little stone. I used
Speaker 2: to have. I used to have a very set boundary
Speaker 2: where I was like, I don't record these podcasts while
Speaker 2: I'm stoned, and just so people know, just so people
Speaker 2: know ninety nine percent of the podcast. Like, if you're
Speaker 2: looking at the Spotify thing right now and you just
Speaker 2: scrolling through ninety nine percent of these, I'm dead, completely sober,
Speaker 2: unless if you count Celsius.
Speaker 6: But uh, well, I mean, like you also take vibance, right, I.
Speaker 2: Do take vibance. I've been talking a lot about I
Speaker 2: always forget that when I say things and record them
Speaker 2: and post them on the internet, that people can hear them.
Speaker 2: I always forget that. I don't know why that's lapsed,
Speaker 2: constantly lapses my mind, but yeah, every once in a while.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, how did you find the proper dose for
Speaker 6: vivance because I also have ADHD actually, and uh the
Speaker 6: first medication that my doctor put me on was live ance,
Speaker 6: and I found my it was really weird because up
Speaker 6: my dose to like thirty milligrams and it it was
Speaker 6: really really fucking weird.
Speaker 2: Oh thirty milig Oh well I well, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I can go. Well, so I got prescribed thirty milligrams
Speaker 2: of vivance and then I took it, and that night
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep and I just watched YouTube videos about
Speaker 2: death for eight hours and that was bad. And so
Speaker 2: then I was like, all right, let me try. I
Speaker 2: liked the first half of that day, though, so I
Speaker 2: switched to ten. I just took ten. Now I'm taking
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Is feeling good. Maybe i'll what's the word
Speaker 2: ty rate t rate? It starts with the T, one
Speaker 2: of those ta words. I'll t rate up back to thirty.
Speaker 2: But anyway, anyway, what have you been doing since you
Speaker 2: uh have been unemployed? What have you been up to?
Speaker 6: I've had a chill summer. Like I've been playing moncala
Speaker 6: online with a buddy of mine that lives in the
Speaker 6: States while I'm in Canada. But got really really good
Speaker 6: at that and it's really fun. I recommend it.
Speaker 2: I've been mancala mancla.
Speaker 6: Yeah it's m A n c A l A.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So you have do you? I was gonna
Speaker 2: ask you this, do you have Like I know, I
Speaker 2: know you you're kind of like being alone, but like,
Speaker 2: do you have like friends and family and like, you know,
Speaker 2: outside of work, like people in your life and stuff.
Speaker 6: I got family half an hour away, so I visit
Speaker 6: in like every now and then. And I'm at the
Speaker 6: age now where like my friends are also twenty eight
Speaker 6: or twenty nine, and it's really weird because people at
Speaker 6: our age now, like I feel like they're either getting engaged,
Speaker 6: have kids, or are married, and then there's me looking
Speaker 6: for a job and trying to figure life and shit out.
Speaker 2: You're not alone in those pursuits by any means. It
Speaker 2: is true. It's an interesting age. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, it is kind of an age where
Speaker 2: like most a lot of not most, but like a
Speaker 2: lot of people are getting married and having kids and shit.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I'm twenty seven and I still
Speaker 2: feel I still feel like a sixteen year old boy
Speaker 2: in many ways. There's a lot of ways. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of ways in which I'm significantly more matured than
Speaker 2: I was when I was a sixteen year old boy.
Speaker 2: But like when it comes to like like it's perfectly
Speaker 2: normal for a twenty seven year old to have a child,
Speaker 2: like that happens a lot. But for me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm like that that that to me feels like I'm
Speaker 2: like sixteen and pregnant. You know, I was gonna ask you,
Speaker 2: what am I like goals?
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would also like to one day have a
Speaker 2: wife and a child. That sounds nice. I would love to.
Speaker 2: I would love to one day have a wife and
Speaker 2: a child's and anytime soon, I'm too. I'm enjoying like
Speaker 2: utter freedom for now. My life goals are to do that.
Speaker 2: I actually wrote down in my notes at a little
Speaker 2: bit ago. I wrote down everything I could conceive of
Speaker 2: wanting to do for the rest of my life, and
Speaker 2: it was that I want to make travel videos.
Speaker 6: You actually, I have a funny story about that. You
Speaker 6: actually inspired my life with your travel videos. Like so
Speaker 6: actually you changed my life. Like I think it was
Speaker 6: like last year in September and October, like you talked
Speaker 6: a bit about going on walks and I saw you
Speaker 6: like going on to ventures in the world. I'm like, man,
Speaker 6: that's really cool. So what I ended up doing is
Speaker 6: h I thought, I took your ticket out of nowhere,
Speaker 6: and I flew to Amsterdam in Germany and just decided
Speaker 6: to go for a walk, like to random places and
Speaker 6: it was amazing. And honestly, that is like my one
Speaker 6: of my number one life goals is just to do
Speaker 6: that a lot more.
Speaker 2: Fuck. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm so happy that. I'm so
Speaker 2: happy to have had any minuscule amount of influence for
Speaker 2: you to do that, that's awesome. When I was twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, that was the first solo trip I took
Speaker 2: was to Germany and Amsterdam. I fucking love where in Germany.
Speaker 6: Well I was in the northwest side, but I also
Speaker 6: went to Hamburg, which is like mostly northern Germany in
Speaker 6: a part, and well I have family over there, so
Speaker 6: I went to visit them, which was really cool. But like,
Speaker 6: like I am from Germany, Like I moved to Canada
Speaker 6: when I was five, and for twenty two years I've
Speaker 6: been in Canada. So I just recently went back last
Speaker 6: year and I just wanted to see the land for
Speaker 6: what it is when I'm an.
Speaker 2: Adult that's sick. That rocks. Yeah, do you where if? Sorry?
Speaker 2: So if if, where would you want to go on
Speaker 2: a walk? Next?
Speaker 6: I really want to go to Spain. I think that'd
Speaker 6: be really cool, like Barcelona. Yeah, I've already been to
Speaker 6: Thailand once for a month and that was really cool.
Speaker 6: Like have you ever had a ham and cheese toasty
Speaker 6: from Thailand?
Speaker 2: What a ham and cheese toasty? Is that a McDonald's thing?
Speaker 6: Like you know, no, like the seven elevens in Thailand? Right?
Speaker 6: You talked about the Seven elevens. Yeah, walk in and
Speaker 6: they have the ham and cheese and they just warm
Speaker 6: it up.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have,
Speaker 2: I have had that. I have had that. I thought
Speaker 2: you were talking about a while ago. Uh. When I
Speaker 2: was in college, I was lucky enough to study abroad
Speaker 2: in Rome and almost every day and at the Rome
Speaker 2: McDonald's they had this thing called the mc toast, which
Speaker 2: was too upside down hamburger buns. And uh it was
Speaker 2: a grilled cheese sandwich with ham made from two upside
Speaker 2: down hamburger buns. Have you ever heard of this or
Speaker 2: seen this?
Speaker 6: No, but that sounds delicious.
Speaker 2: This is amazing. I have one every day and my
Speaker 2: body is still reeling from the effects of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I just have a Pizza Pops for breakfast pretty
Speaker 6: much every day at this point in my life. Now.
Speaker 2: Pizza pops.
Speaker 6: Oh, it must be a Canadian thing. Let's see how
Speaker 6: I describe it.
Speaker 2: I'm looking this up.
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, it's a it's basically filling.
Speaker 2: With sorry go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 6: It's like a filling inside with like cheese and like pepperoni.
Speaker 6: But uh, I know the chat is probably gonna hate
Speaker 6: me for this, but uh, they also have ones that
Speaker 6: are they have Hawaiian so with pineapple in it, and
Speaker 6: I will fight anyone to the end. Pineapple belong.
Speaker 2: What's your what's your name? What's your name?
Speaker 6: Thomas?
Speaker 2: Thomas? Well, Thomas. Uh, it's funny because you know how
Speaker 2: you said earlier that I that I changed your life
Speaker 2: by inspiring you to go on this walk. You've currently
Speaker 2: you've You've just now actually ruined my life by introducing
Speaker 2: me to these pizza pops, Because I'm gonna go on
Speaker 2: Amazon and I'm gonna order about twenty of them.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, you know, you know, and when I went
Speaker 5: to high school that was strictly like ninety eight percent
Speaker 5: of my diet for like grade eleventh to grade twelve,
Speaker 5: that's all I had was pizza pops and Mountain Dew
Speaker 5: code red.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I'm probably not gonna order these on Amazon.
Speaker 2: But do they actually Yeah? Yeah, these are just these
Speaker 2: are just like hot pockets.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, we just call them pizza pops.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Are you okay? Are you do you feel you
Speaker 2: you have these for breakfast every day?
Speaker 6: I'm totally fine, Like I've only had these every day
Speaker 6: for breakfast. I guess for the last two weeks.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna sit here and lecture you about
Speaker 2: that being bad, because I'm I've got I got way
Speaker 2: worse ship that I've eaten for breakfast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Thomas, Thomas, you there, Yes, I'm there, Thomas.
Speaker 2: I really I've enjoyed having this conversation with you. I'm
Speaker 2: very I'm very happy that you were inspired to go
Speaker 2: for a long walk. I hope that you I'm not
Speaker 2: even gonna say I hope that you find another job
Speaker 2: where you can answer emails, because I know you will.
Speaker 2: That's a you know, I think you'll be able to
Speaker 2: do that. I hope you wean off your addiction to
Speaker 2: piece of pops. I know what that's like. That's not good.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: Mmm, chill out, enjoy the summer, and uh, I love you.
Speaker 2: All, beautiful. Have a good rest of your life, Thomas.
Speaker 2: I'll see you in the universe.
Speaker 6: See you in another universe, Aisle, What.
Speaker 2: A nice Canadian man. Pizza pops they look like but
Speaker 2: oh okay, I was wondering why are they called pizza pops?
Speaker 2: Because I thought I was imagining, you know, as you
Speaker 2: guys probably were. I was a man doing a popsicle
Speaker 2: or like a lollypop. But they're just they're in panadas,
Speaker 2: and so I was like, why are they called pizza
Speaker 2: pops is and PA pizza pops like the PA and empanada.
Speaker 2: Canada is crazy, goes on the line taking your phone
Speaker 2: calls every night. Demon goes doing his eye He's teaching
Speaker 2: you a loud in the Memory of Life, but he's
Speaker 2: not really an expert.