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Speaker 1: The Giants fall to the San Francisco forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty four at MetLife Stadium. The Giants

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Speaker 1: fall to two and seven on the year. The forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers improve to six and three. John Schmelt, Tiki Barber,

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Speaker 1: Bob Poppo. We're waiting Brian Dables press conference downstairs. We'll

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Speaker 1: go to it live when he begins, and Tiki, let's

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Speaker 1: start here. Bob and Carl talked about this a lot

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the broadcast. The bottom line is

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Speaker 1: that the Giants defense could not get off the field

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Speaker 1: they needed to for most of this game, really, but the.

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Speaker 2: Second half specifically.

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Speaker 1: I'm not counting the final drive to close out the game,

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Speaker 1: but four second half possessions, two touchdowns at a field goal,

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Speaker 1: including two drives in the fourth quarter that went seventy

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Speaker 1: six yards and sixty yards that featured all runs except

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Speaker 1: for two passways. Now granted they were explosive pass plays,

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Speaker 3: And ultimately it comes down to this defense really not

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Speaker 3: at all. And this is the mo for the last

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Speaker 3: two and a half weeks of football for the New

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Speaker 3: York Giants. We saw it at the end of the

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Speaker 2: I mean, what were there?

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Speaker 3: They were two times or three times they got off

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Speaker 3: the field two punts and then thank goodness for Brian

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Speaker 3: Burns because other than him defensively, who made an impactful

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Speaker 3: play that shows up. And part of it is tackling,

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Speaker 3: part of it is just being right in the fundamentals.

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Speaker 3: But I think the biggest issue is the same one

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Speaker 2: Once you get into the second and.

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Speaker 3: Third depths of your of your of your depth chart,

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Speaker 3: it gets impossible to trust those trust those players. And

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Speaker 3: I don't want to kill Corey Black but you got

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Speaker 3: cover too, man, You got responsible for the flat while

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Speaker 3: you're looking inside and Christo Mercafe's running a wheel route

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Speaker 2: Whatever the heck it was until thirty nine. Whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: Fundamentally, this team feels flawed and then they don't tackle,

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Speaker 3: they drop passes on the offensive side, and it makes you.

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Speaker 3: It leaves you feeling anemic. And that's what's most frustrating

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Speaker 3: about this team. Forty nine's with a better team. They

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Speaker 3: likely are winning this game, but don't hand it to

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Speaker 3: them by not being you know, I don't even know

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Speaker 3: what the word is. You're not you're not competent enough sometimes,

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Speaker 3: and that's frustrating.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, look, the Giants are ravaged by injuries,

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Speaker 4: but there's no team that's been more ravaged by injuries

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Speaker 4: they're playing with a backup center. They lost a four

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Speaker 4: playing good. They lost one of the best pass rushers

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Speaker 2: They're playing well.

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Speaker 1: Bob, they're second and third pass pass rushers, and you

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Speaker 4: Rushers are all didn't play in this game. He did

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Speaker 4: this game is something that's been talked about repeatedly. Behind

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Speaker 4: seeing it time and time again. There was nobody open.

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Speaker 4: The only time guys got open. The only reason why

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Speaker 2: And you just can't win that way.

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Speaker 1: If Bob, you're right, and look, the defense was a problem,

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Speaker 2: In the first half of this game.

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Speaker 2: It's been bad. Only their offensive line is terrible.

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Speaker 1: left a lot to be desired. No, they definitely did.

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Speaker 1: I mean the opening drive. It feels like every game

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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers aren't aren't.

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Speaker 3: World beaters right now, but they play sound football. And

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Speaker 3: then after that, everything just felt like it was falling

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Speaker 3: Another drop pass from a young player, it's just frustrating

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Speaker 2: You can't drop a ball that hits you right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was on his side.

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Speaker 3: But if it's on your side, it's the balls. It's

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Speaker 4: It's basic physics, right, And a ball in this case

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Speaker 3: but you can't drop that pass in that moment. He'll

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Speaker 2: And get right game again.

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Speaker 4: You allowed a team that can't run the ball to

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Speaker 4: first in the NFL and red zone offense to score

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Speaker 1: And last week the Eagles couldn't run the ball heading

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Speaker 1: into the game. They go for two to seventy six.

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Speaker 1: This week the Niners couldn't really run it their under

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Speaker 1: fifty nine today. So we'll get in the rush defense

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Speaker 1: not getting the job done.

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Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. John Schmelch, Ticky Barber,

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Speaker 1: Bob Papa. Giants fall to the San Francisco forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. All right, guys, we talked about

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Speaker 1: the offense and the defense. We're waiting Brian Dable down

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Speaker 1: there at the podium and eventually someone on this defensive front, Tiki.

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Speaker 2: This is where all the resources are right right, all the.

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Speaker 1: First round picks, the big free agent signings, And we

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Speaker 1: talked about Brian Burns again, he's the only guy making plays.

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Speaker 2: Can somebody else?

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Speaker 1: And it's not like they did a ton of play

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Speaker 3: There wasn't enough pressure. And sometimes look, we have we

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Speaker 3: know we have good pass rushers. Brian Burns is great

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Speaker 3: at this point this season. Kevon Thibodau, he doesn't. Even

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Speaker 3: Abdul Carter as a rookie, he doesn't show up in

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Speaker 3: as well in this game, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 6: What do you see in your with your defense right now?

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Speaker 7: I mean that's three straight games with thirty best points. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and uh look, they ran it. I wouldn't say they

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Speaker 7: They were pretty productive running the football. You know, longest

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Speaker 8: Four point one forty carries. We gotta do a better

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Speaker 9: I think it's a secret.

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Speaker 7: So we gave up you know, team team game, team game,

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Speaker 7: but certainly got you better technology.

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Speaker 2: Was that last sequence in the.

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Speaker 6: First half you get to turn over the air turnity.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that that's uh was a great play by Burns

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Speaker 9: Are those are those tiers of emotion?

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Speaker 6: Or is that's just who's give all right?

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Speaker 9: Is that what?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry?

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Speaker 9: You hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: Walked in here. It looks like there are tiers coming

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, it wasn't years.

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Speaker 6: You have to watch the film. But from your eye

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Speaker 6: Enough A lot. You've got to fix this? Not good enough?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we got to keep working on our tackling.

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Speaker 10: Defensively when things are getting better from whatever it's the

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Speaker 8: Well, we didn't get the results Connor.

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Speaker 6: Should you see the effort wine there at the end.

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Speaker 7: I just thought they ran, you know, b Rob had

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Speaker 7: You know, wanted to eliminate explosives from McCaffrey, both in

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Speaker 7: Said, yeah, they had a nice play design against what

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Speaker 8: You know, made it a ten point game. I believe

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Speaker 12: How wrong?

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Speaker 6: When did you think of Jackson Dart's performance today?

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Speaker 5: The diving touchdown at the end, just his progression overall.

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Speaker 2: I think he battles.

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Speaker 7: Kid, gives everything he has, competes sixty minutes, makes good decisions.

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Speaker 7: You know, we got to do a good job of

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Speaker 6: Because he looked I mean there was cameras that picked him.

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Speaker 7: It's it have to ask Jackson. I mean, I just

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Speaker 7: get these results. No, it should, it should frustrate you.

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Speaker 7: It should have you. Yeah, lack of better terms, not happy.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, Yeah, that's okay.

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Speaker 12: Why not take him out in the final couple of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I was thirty four to twenty four. We

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Speaker 2: If we would have.

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Speaker 7: Held him there get the ball back with say fifty seconds.

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Speaker 7: So we're gonna we're gonna try to play to the

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Speaker 7: end there, Pat, That's that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 13: I think last year, you know, you had talked about

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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, we can all do a better job, but

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Speaker 8: That's what we got to do.

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Speaker 6: How much change that these plays? You guys scoring a

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Speaker 11: What are you seeing in that opening drive that's given

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Speaker 8: Good execution?

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Speaker 10: Consider a change in defensive play calling to see if

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, none of us did a good enough job.

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Speaker 7: That starts with me, Connor, so we'll continue to work

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Speaker 14: You mentioned before about Jackson, he said it should frustrate

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Speaker 8: I mean, some of these guys jacks of our football team.

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Speaker 7: I know he's a rookie and that's a hard thing

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Speaker 7: You know, people need to feed off of that.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's there's plenty of plays out there that

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Speaker 11: Said after last year, they wanted to expect the better

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Speaker 6: Are the ways thinks will be different this year? How

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we just we got to continue to improve here. Again,

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Speaker 8: Some things that are not so h Yeah, to be

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Speaker 2: End result, right, I mean how much is that concert?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, we're not where we need to be.

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Speaker 6: Did you get enough from Dexter Lawrence today? I got

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Speaker 2: To show more.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say, Pat, we're gonna ship back. Take a

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Speaker 8: Look the guy's battle. We didn't get it done.

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Speaker 6: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is the head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable.

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Speaker 1: The Coaches Press Conference is brought to you by Hackensack

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Speaker 1: Murtney Health.

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Speaker 2: Keep getting better.

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Speaker 1: Just a one minute break, We'll come right back to

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Speaker 1: he wants to talk about the line of questioning there.

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Speaker 1: When we return, the Giants fall to the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers thirty four to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Back here on a Giants extra point.

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Speaker 1: The Giants fall to the San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty four. Giants are now two and

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Speaker 1: seven Niners at six and three t He had a

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Speaker 3: I mean, only is a few things in that press conference,

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Speaker 3: but when you start talking about tackling, that is not

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Speaker 3: a want to issue. And on Brian Robinson's touchdown at

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Speaker 2: Have this this.

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Speaker 3: This fight for the cornerback slot, like who's starting? Is

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Speaker 2: When you look at it, that's that's a backup fight.

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Speaker 3: That's not a starting cornerback in the NFL fight. And

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Speaker 2: You're getting your asses kicked. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 3: Guys are laying down swords and I don't like that

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not coaching, it's want to well.

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Speaker 4: Carl brought it up during the broadcast, and there is

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Speaker 2: But they do fight. Yes, they do fight offensive.

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Speaker 4: A lot of that is because of Jackson Dart though

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Speaker 4: I looked at this thing of throws that he's made

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Speaker 1: That doesn't all eleven have to do this, because if

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Speaker 2: This has to be a unit where.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about this earlier with Tim when we

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Speaker 4: pass to Born for thirteen yards, and then they ran

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Speaker 4: it on every play and they didn't even run the edges.

443
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Speaker 4: They ran it mostly between the tackles. That's not scheme. Well,

444
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Speaker 4: that's not nothing. They got a backup guarded there, and

445
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Speaker 4: they got a backup center in there, and they said,

446
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Speaker 4: see the ball right, well, we're gonna They did to

447
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Speaker 4: the Giants what the Giants did to the Eagles on

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Speaker 4: that Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I feel in those moments when you have

450
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Speaker 3: a lead like that in the fourth quarter and it's

451
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Speaker 3: you just don't want to give the ball back, don't

452
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Speaker 3: give the other team the opportunity to come back in

453
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Speaker 3: the game. It becomes we want it more than you.

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Speaker 3: That's finishing, that's coaching. That's winning football. It's what the

455
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers have done. I think the entirety of

456
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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's sees career here, other than the first season

457
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Speaker 3: where he lost what nine games in a row to

458
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Speaker 3: start this season, then they finished six to ten as

459
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Speaker 3: the year went on. They know how to win football

460
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Speaker 3: games even if they're not playing their best football, and

461
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Speaker 3: the Giants don't have that yet. They don't know how

462
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Speaker 3: to win football. Get We saw this in Denver with

463
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Speaker 3: some of the mistakes. We saw it in New Orleans

464
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Speaker 3: with all the mistakes that they had, and so games

465
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Speaker 3: like this make you see the contrast, right, from a

466
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Speaker 3: team that knows how to win when they're banged up,

467
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Speaker 3: in inferior in certain spots, but know how to finish

468
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Speaker 3: a game, and the Giants can't finish games, and for

469
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Speaker 3: the most part in this game, they can't even start

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Speaker 3: this game.

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Speaker 1: Bob, on the drive you're talking about, you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Bourn play for thirteen.

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Speaker 2: I'll give the fans the place.

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey for nine, McCaffrey for ten, McCaffrey for five, McCaffrey

475
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Speaker 1: for four, McCaffrey for two.

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Speaker 2: Robinson for five, Robinson for ten, Robinson for eighteen. Touchdown. Right,

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Speaker 2: and by the way.

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Speaker 1: The two yard run was on a third and one

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Speaker 1: for a first down, so that was still a successful

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Speaker 1: play even though it was only two yards.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it's it's they went right at they said, oh,

482
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Speaker 4: your defense in front, that's your strength.

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Speaker 2: Guess what we're gonna beach. And that was between the

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Speaker 2: tackles too. That wasn't edge stuff.

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Speaker 4: For the most that drive, they hit them on the

486
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Speaker 4: edges and on other series in the first half special

487
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Speaker 4: that one was just like big boy football.

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Speaker 2: It was what the you know what it was. It

489
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Speaker 2: was learned football.

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Speaker 3: So you spin the half figuring out, all right, what

491
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Speaker 3: are we what are we facing here? And then when

492
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Speaker 3: you get in the second half, you you feel this

493
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Speaker 3: is just a player standpoint.

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Speaker 2: This isn't coaching this. Players.

495
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Speaker 3: You feel like you have control over this team, their

496
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Speaker 3: defensive front, their second level, their cornerback safety is the

497
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Speaker 3: tackling issues. We have control and we're going to exercise

498
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Speaker 3: this control over you and there's nothing you can do

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Speaker 3: about it. And by the way, let me say this too.

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Speaker 3: You know, people to your point, Tiki want to blind

501
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Speaker 3: the coaches and all that stuff. What was the problem

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Speaker 3: with the Giants defense.

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Speaker 1: When they when Wing Warndelle left and they brought in

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Speaker 1: cham Bowen before Shane Bone got here, What was the

505
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Speaker 1: problem with the Giants defense effort? It was the run defense? Right, yeah, tackling.

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Speaker 1: So you want to put this on Chamba? Why was

507
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Speaker 1: it a problem before he walked in the door?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: Because the Giants saying that's right, well exactly.

510
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Speaker 4: So then it gets down to players, right, I mean,

511
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Speaker 4: and Tiki, you made a good point, Like and John

512
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Speaker 4: you mentioned the Niners are down their three best pass rush.

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Speaker 4: They're down. They're not missing, just the starting linebacker. They're

514
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Speaker 4: missing a middle linebacker who has been to has been.

515
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Speaker 2: A first team All Pro four times. He's the first

516
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Speaker 2: Battle Hall of fam.

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Speaker 4: So you're missing both of those guys, not until car

518
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Speaker 4: that's uh cars outside. So like you know, and they're

519
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Speaker 4: using look at their offensive line, they missed a guy

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Speaker 4: they just came off injury reserve started and played every

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Speaker 4: snap and left guard. Get a backup center playing kid

522
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Speaker 4: from Bosco Prep Hennessy.

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Speaker 2: And you're right.

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Speaker 4: The quality of your team is how good are your backups?

525
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Speaker 4: And the Giants have obviously taken on a series of injuries,

526
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Speaker 4: but the quality there is not you know, at this

527
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Speaker 4: point where you're sitting, it's just too many gaping holes

528
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Speaker 4: that they have at this point. But when they run

529
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Speaker 4: it down your throat like that man and the and

530
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Speaker 4: the and the receiving corps, there's there's no there's nothing

531
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Speaker 4: exceptional you give you. I'll give credit to Wandell Robinson.

532
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Speaker 4: He's a tough player.

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Speaker 3: He is small guy, gets he gets beat up from

534
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Speaker 3: most of these games, but he'll catch the ball, he'll

535
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Speaker 3: take the hit. Now, he dances a little too much,

536
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Speaker 3: and I think a lot of that's because he's trying

537
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Speaker 3: to make a play out of something that's not really there.

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Speaker 2: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: If there's nothing else open, the only thing Jackson Dark

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Speaker 4: can do is throw the seven yard And I.

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Speaker 2: Talked about this in the pregame.

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Speaker 1: The Giants, I think either seventh or eighth best in

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Speaker 1: the league on third downs of seven or more yards

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Speaker 1: and of ten of more yards, and we said, look,

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Speaker 1: that's a great stat but that's not how you want

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Speaker 1: to live. And the first half one of six I

547
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Speaker 1: think on on third downs, and all five non conversions

548
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: were of seven or more yards. So you just can't

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Speaker 1: live in that land and expect to succeed consistently well.

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Speaker 4: And then one of them was you penalized yourself right

551
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Speaker 4: third and manageable correct?

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Speaker 2: Schmidz gets called for flinching. He went third and three

553
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Speaker 2: to third and thirteen correct.

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Speaker 4: And then bo who struggled a little bit today, right rookie, rookie,

555
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Speaker 4: he struggled a little bit today at the right tackle spot.

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Speaker 4: I think they missed illuminor quite a bit in this game.

557
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Speaker 4: And I you know what, you know who else they

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Speaker 4: missed in this game. But again it's not an excuse

559
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Speaker 4: because the Niners have eight billion injuries. But I think

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Speaker 4: the Giants missed Daniel Bellinger and what he's been able

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Speaker 4: to do in this game because it eliminated sort of

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Speaker 4: that other threat in the passing game.

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Speaker 3: Well apparently eliminate them going twelve personnel. And I said

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Speaker 3: this in the pregame and it frustrated me. Throughout this game.

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Speaker 3: There were probably five snaps with twelve personnel on the field,

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Speaker 3: someone trying to pull that were gonna try a couple

567
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Speaker 3: of them. I think we're down in the tight red

568
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Speaker 3: area when you're when you're in the scoring scoring zone,

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Speaker 3: you want to bring extra protection if you decide to

570
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Speaker 3: throw it, but it also gives you an extra blocker

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Speaker 3: if you're trying to run it.

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Speaker 2: And twelve personnel for fans, that means one running back,

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Speaker 2: two tight.

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Speaker 3: Two t And the reason I say this two tight

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Speaker 3: ends Robert sal is going base personnel. It creates the

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Speaker 3: advantage for you in the in the past game. If

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Speaker 3: you want to throw out a twelve personnel and we

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Speaker 3: didn't see it, we get twenty off the field, put

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Speaker 3: fifty seven on the field and we didn't see it.

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Speaker 3: And to me, that's that's that's schematic.

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Speaker 4: That's the one coaching thing that I'll look at and say, man,

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Speaker 4: you missed an opportunity. That's how that's what That's what

583
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Speaker 4: the the Texans did last week.

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Speaker 3: They don't have two tight ends. They have Dalton Schultz

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Speaker 3: and they have a backup offensive lineman. They put an

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman on the field. The forty nine ers go

587
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Speaker 3: go base personnel. There's three linebackers on the field. Why

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Speaker 3: not try something different because what was happening in the

589
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: second half is this wide open let's throw the ball

590
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Speaker 3: around wasn't working effectively.

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Speaker 2: Enough and not as end of the game went to

592
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Speaker 2: some prevent defense.

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Speaker 4: And if you're in that personnel and you have some

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Speaker 4: effect running it, well, now opens up the slant, yes,

595
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Speaker 4: and it gets your receivers more in the game, and

596
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: now you're gonna sneak out a tight end and you're

597
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: gonna get a blown covered. But that's worked for the Giants,

598
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 4: and they did not use that as much as we

599
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: would have seen. But again, we just circle back to

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Speaker 4: this whole thing. At the end of the day, man,

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Speaker 4: you can't allow a team that averages eighty nine yards

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Speaker 4: of game rushing to come in and just run it

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Speaker 4: down your throat.

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Speaker 2: You don't have injuries in your front seven.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem other than Moois, other than the McFadden's out,

606
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Speaker 4: but you've been playing without him and then Moise left

607
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: the game. Moise, Okay, So in your front seven you're

608
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: missing one guy, they're missing two offensive linemen.

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Speaker 2: You're not wrong about. You can't be beaten like that.

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Speaker 2: And can you talk about eleven personnel?

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Speaker 1: TICKI Verray McLeod got called up as that a little

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Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey in this game. He was the main guy

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Speaker 1: that got used as that third receiver with Wandell and Slayton.

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Speaker 3: One target, one catch for five And that's a call

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Speaker 3: up issue. Lord, Jordan Humphrey has been called up too

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Speaker 3: many times. Yes, so you're protecting putting him on the

617
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Speaker 3: regular roster and you have to bring up one of

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Speaker 3: your other wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: He's only been here for two weeks.

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Speaker 4: But at this point in time, with the way he's

621
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Speaker 4: played since he's been here, why wouldn't you want to

622
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Speaker 4: sign him to.

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Speaker 2: The active ruck.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with that because what else? Who else

625
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Speaker 3: are you throwing the football too? And there's one thing

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Speaker 3: we saw with little Jordan Humphrey and his limited time

627
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Speaker 3: he'll go get.

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Speaker 2: A fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: Also a block out there. It was a bigger one

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Speaker 3: and you missed that in all facets. That's in the

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Speaker 3: run game. That's that's being bodied. You know when you

632
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Speaker 3: when you when you try to throw him the football,

633
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: and it just there was a lot of I didn't

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Speaker 3: feel angry after this game. I felt resigned that this

635
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Speaker 3: team isn't quite good enough.

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Speaker 1: Giants football is brought to you locally by Ford one performance.

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Speaker 1: They capability at every turn, get behind the will of

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Speaker 1: a new Ford truck or recuv Ford official truck.

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00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: And SUV of the New York Giants. Time out, we'll

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 1: We're awaiting Jackson Dart on the podium and we'll get

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other player interviews in the locker room

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Speaker 1: as well when we return. Giants fall to the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers thirty four to twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: This is Brian Burns and you're listening to Giants football

647
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Speaker 2: on the Fan WFAN and Wfan FM, New York.

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Speaker 4: Thirty eight seconds to go on the half, Jones back

649
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: to throw under pressure, Hennessy throws passing the year and intercepted.

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00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: After the flection by the Giants, Abdul Carter plucked it

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Speaker 2: out of the air.

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Speaker 4: Has Jones got whacked by Burns, and now the Giants,

653
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Speaker 4: with thirty one seconds to go, can respond themselves.

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Speaker 2: Big players making big plays.

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Speaker 1: And Brian Burns later had a bat on a third

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Speaker 1: down that seemed to give the Giants a little bit

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Speaker 1: of hole. But I think it was the only hunt

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Speaker 1: that forty nine ers had in the second half of

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Speaker 1: this game was after.

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Speaker 2: That Burns bat.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, McCaffrey on that little screen pat

662
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: still gonna run. There was a whole lot of daylight

663
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: on that sideline that was not gonna go. All the

664
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: Birds did not knock that pass down. That was today's play.

665
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: The game brought to you locally by four to one

666
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: performance and capability. At every turn, get behind the will

667
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: be a new Ford truck or recif you fod official

668
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: truck and SUV of the New York Times.

669
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: Well, how about that play Upton made on the same

670
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: play to Tracy. If he doesn't tackle Tracy on the

671
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: far sideline in front of the Giant bench, Tracy might

672
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 4: be gone.

673
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: And take You wanted to talk about what you've seen

674
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: from Tracy since he's gone back from the shoulder.

675
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because last year we saw him running

676
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: so aggressively cut back, setting up linebackers to get on

677
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: one side of the blocking. Uh, whether it's a conglomerate

678
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: with one guy or two guys, and then setting him

679
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: up and then cutting behind it and look, they're not.

680
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: Their offense isn't set this year to be like that

681
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: because of the Camp Scataboo effect. I mean they ran

682
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: a lot of just inside duo runs and get those

683
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: double teams. Scott would get behind and push and push

684
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: and push, and he pick up three or four yards

685
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: on first or second down.

686
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: Tyrone Trace is a different runner. He's a slasher.

687
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: He wants to cut back, and I also felt like

688
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: he's still nursing that shoulder a little bit because he

689
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: doesn't look confident going into contact fully, and it's the

690
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: offense needs to shift a little bit if he's going

691
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: to be here every down ball carry. I felt like

692
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: Devin Singletary, to be honest with you, ran harder and

693
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: ran with more aggression, probably because he's healthier. And I

694
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: don't want to knock Tyrone because I really like his

695
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: skill set. He catches the ball well, but ultimately you

696
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: gotta be tough despite the injuries that you're playing with.

697
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: And in this game, the Giants running attack. Just so

698
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: people understand what the numbers were, twenty one carries one

699
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen yards.

700
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: Sounds good.

701
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, Jackson Dart at eight carries for

702
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: fifty six yards. A lot of those on scramble, so

703
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: on the ground to your point, Devin Singletary, nice day

704
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: at the office. Eight carries forty three yards along a

705
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: fourteen tyrone. Tracy five carries eighteen yards a long of eleven.

706
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: And that's what happens too. You can't commit to your

707
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: run game now when you're down two scores early in

708
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: this game, just thirteen design runs for the running backs.

709
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart dropped back to pass. I don't know how

710
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: many of those are scrambles, probably upwards of forty ish

711
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: times in this game.

712
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: But we can get into the schemes and all of

713
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: those things. But football at his basic level is simple.

714
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: Even hearing it, since I know you were five years old, blocking, running, tackling,

715
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 3: or if you're the case of the if you're the offense,

716
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: breaking those tackles, and we didn't see enough of that

717
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: in this game until it was too much out of hand.

718
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: And that the problem is you saw San Francisco do it. Yes,

719
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: just think.

720
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: About you got a little momentum in the game. Brian

721
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: Robinson runs it out from a yard deep forty one

722
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: yard return, gets it out to the forty. But it's

723
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: not like he had a head of steam and it

724
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: was well blocked and he had a lane. He got

725
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: grabbed around the ankles at about the twenty Shook, that

726
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: guy got hit again. Shook that guy made another guy

727
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: miss and then start sprinting down the sideline. That cannot happen,

728
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: right if you're trying to come from behind in a

729
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: ball game, and you just changed all the momentum in

730
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: the game by them having good field. But they could

731
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: have had him pinned at the twenty one yard line.

732
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: And now like the place is going nuts. It's not

733
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: a good tackling team, Tiki. No, it's the bottom line.

734
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: Now, the fundamentals just aren't there. They're not good enough

735
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: in a lot of these spots. It feels like it's

736
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: getting to the to the stage. And you you asked

737
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: me this in the in the in the pregame, John,

738
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: at what point does it feel like dog days? Like, man,

739
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: we're helpless and guys start laying down, and I do

740
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: want to say quitting, but just not given the effort

741
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: that's necessary to win in the NFL. And we started

742
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: to see that, particularly in the second half. The forty

743
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: nine Ers had their way with this Giants defense for

744
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: a lot of this game, particularly after the second half.

745
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: You know, you think about the Dallas game and how

746
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: you did everything to win it but you didn't win it. Yeah,

747
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: then you you know, you you bounce back and after

748
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: the Kansas City game, dark comes in. You go wire

749
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: to wire against the Chargers. You self inflict against New Orleans.

750
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: But that's gonna happen, right with the young team. Young

751
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 4: players made some you know, a couple turnovers, but again

752
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: drop passes in that game.

753
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: Whatever blown assignment on defense. But again that's the same

754
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: thing that we have here.

755
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: We're four weeks later, three weeks later, and you're having

756
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: the same issues. Drop passes, the mistakes, things that you

757
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: should learn from aren't being learned.

758
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: I think this twoenty twenty five season, which we didn't

759
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: think would be a super Bowl season by any trust

760
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 4: in the imagination. But a season in which, if you

761
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: look at some of the results in the game, this

762
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 4: two in record, this two and seven record can easily be,

763
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: you know, a four and five record right now through

764
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 4: nine games.

765
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: However, I will.

766
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: Say this, this season I think completely went sideways with

767
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: six minutes to go in Denver up twenty six to eight. Yeah,

768
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: and I think everything, the tone and everything has completely changed.

769
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

770
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: And the only thing that's mitigating that minutes is Jackson Dart.

771
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: He's the only thing that you look at and say,

772
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: all right, we still have a shot in some of

773
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: these games. Is because of how he's playing. Unfortunately, it's

774
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: not translating across to the rest of the fifty three game,

775
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: day fifty three or fifty two in this case.

776
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: All right, I want to go to some audio downstairs.

777
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: One of the defensive leaders, Lawrence did address the media

778
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: after the game.

779
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: Let's listen to the dexter downstairs. Right, we didn't make the.

780
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 6: Plays that came to us and the show that's that's

781
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 6: that execution thing. Did you see effort.

782
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 15: That you were not happy right on the fields?

783
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 16: I don't think there's any lack of effort. I think

784
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 16: everybody played hard.

785
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 17: We just didn't make the plays dexit two and seven. Obviously,

786
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 17: as you know, you guys started two and thirteen last year,

787
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 17: two and eight year before. You've been here for some

788
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 17: two endings.

789
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 9: You know, before the game.

790
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 18: How sick are you just.

791
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: Not even being in it?

792
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 16: Winning is everything? And right now we're seeing that two

793
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 16: and seven. We gotta come back next week and win.

794
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 6: How would you assess your your individual performance?

795
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 16: I think I was getting about a knock back, a

796
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 16: lot of push, seeing a lot of doubles, same same stuff.

797
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: Out pretty well.

798
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 6: They gotta make the play play.

799
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 17: Sorry if you've been asked some similar toness. But at

800
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 17: one point the fourth quarter, when they had a big lead,

801
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 17: they were averaging at six yards of play.

802
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 9: What do you think about that? Just from the.

803
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 16: Defensive steampot, We didn't make the player they came to

804
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 16: us last decks.

805
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 9: Do you have any desire to play anywhere else?

806
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

807
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 9: How can you help?

808
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 19: They'll turn around here?

809
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Just keep leading? You know, eventually the wall is.

810
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 16: Break and that's what this is, what I gotta do

811
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 16: is because of leading thin.

812
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 20: When you have three straight games where the defense allows

813
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 20: over thirty, there's a lot of pride in this room.

814
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 9: Right now, it doesn't seem like anything's getting better.

815
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 6: So how do you turn out?

816
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 21: Where? Where?

817
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 9: Where does the change out?

818
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 16: I think everyone as an individual has to look at

819
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 16: themselves and see what they you know, if they're execute,

820
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 16: where they're in the right spot and.

821
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: They're doing the right thing, if they're studying.

822
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 6: Longer, if they study, if they're you know, making the

823
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 6: plays that come to him. So I think that's the way.

824
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 14: You say we'll take when you look when when you

825
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 14: say that's what the team has to do, you'll do

826
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 14: that obviously. Also, what do you think you'll see about yourself?

827
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 14: You know, what can I do better or more?

828
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 16: Do all the same? I gotta do all the same things,

829
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 16: Gotta study more, gotta you know, practice harder, play harder.

830
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, is she's still the right guy to lead this defense,

831
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 9: I think. So we just got to make the place.

832
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 16: I think we're in good positions to execute the players.

833
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: You gotta make on us and look.

834
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: I give Dexter Lawrence credit because he's trying not to

835
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: be inflammatory, but you know he's got to be frustrated

836
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: as well with his own play and with the play

837
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: of everyone around him. The forty nine ers aren't world

838
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: beaters this year. They're not the Kansas City Chiefs and

839
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: not a team that just is gonna run the ball

840
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 3: up and down the field on you. And so he's

841
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: he's trying to say the right things, and for the

842
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: most party, he is because that's not gonna inflame anybody.

843
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: But sometimes you almost feel like you need to right

844
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: And maybe that happens in private, and I hope it

845
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: does for a lot of guys on this on the

846
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, maybe Brian Burns needs to

847
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: be that guy step up and take a more vocal

848
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: leadership role.

849
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that he's not, but you're not.

850
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: Seeing who's a guy on one of your teams on

851
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: defense that did that sort of thing. And I know

852
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce was in two thousand and one. Role wasn't

853
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. It was one of the guys on.

854
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: Your team that did.

855
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: We had a bunch of guys like that straight hand

856
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: was was was that Way? I mean, he was the

857
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: one that always would break his down before games would start,

858
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: and Pierce Way, but definitely Pierce. He mentioned him already,

859
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: But I almost feel like there needs to be an

860
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 3: emotional response here. Michael back, but you're not. You don't

861
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: feel the emotional response. Even decks trying to be tame

862
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: or non inflammatory as I was just saying, feels resigned.

863
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: You should be angry at these at these moments when

864
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: you play like this, you have to be angry at yourself.

865
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: Otherwise how are you motivating yourself to get better?

866
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: And I think that's some things that's missing a little

867
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: bit with this team.

868
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: You know who used to get angry Keith Hamilton, oh

869
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: Hammer was I mean the two thousand team.

870
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: He was also a scary individual too, so when he

871
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: got angry, people listened.

872
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: He was the happer.

873
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: Well, I never I'll never forget that Minnesota game in

874
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: Fossil's first year nineteen ninety seven, in the postseason. I mean,

875
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: I go into the locker room beause I just run in.

876
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: We gotta lead and we got it, but things were

877
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: like off, things were weren't quite right. And I get

878
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: into the locker room. There's nobody in the locker room,

879
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: and like, where is everybody?

880
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: I look back out in the hall. They're fighting each other.

881
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm serious. The defense was. They were yelling

882
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: and emotional with each other, and it was Felipe sparks

883
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 2: were fighting in the back.

884
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 22: Of the the game, but I'm talking about at halftime.

885
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 22: At halftime, so a lot of this happens, like you

886
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 22: get better when you hold each other accountable. And so

887
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 22: think about the Seahawks like that, that famous team that

888
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 22: had one of the best defenses in football in that

889
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 22: year that they won the Super Bowl.

890
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: They would in each other, oh se along because they

891
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: were holding each other accountable. And if you're not a

892
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: team that's willing to do that, then you you you

893
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 3: let mediocrity become the norm.

894
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: And again, we don't know what's happening behind the scenes,

895
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: so we're not saying it's not happening, but obviously the

896
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: results are not reflecting this. Let's go to Keavon Thibadeau,

897
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: another one of the leaders on this defense. He also

898
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: spoke to the media after the game. Here's Kaevon.

899
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 23: We gotta watch the tape. I can't really pet point

900
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 23: anything at this moment, but you know, you gotta break

901
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 23: down the film. You gotta be critical yourself. For me personal,

902
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 23: I got to figure out where I can get better

903
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 23: and how I can continue to help the team and

904
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 23: go from there.

905
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 11: K if we talk a lot about execution.

906
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 15: They talk a lot about execution, will be okay with.

907
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 18: Some of the effort you so out there at the

908
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 18: end of the second half of the defensive side.

909
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 23: Man, I'm be honest. When I'm out there, I can't

910
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 23: really you know, I'm not looking at.

911
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 9: Other players to see way I after thinking.

912
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 23: I'm just trying to make sure I get my off

913
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 23: so you know, to me, I'm always trying to be

914
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 23: a thumb guy and point the finger out myself so

915
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 23: if there's more I can give. And it shows that

916
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 23: on tape, he's got.

917
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 15: To be done the road down the stretch.

918
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 6: He's just kind of randed. Creative score you know who

919
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 6: lay the games are?

920
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 21: That?

921
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: What?

922
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 15: What?

923
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 6: What would you see there?

924
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 9: You know?

925
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 23: Yeah, defense gotta be better. Uh, First seven gotta be better,

926
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 23: Max seven gotta be better. We gotta be stout, you know,

927
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 23: in the run game to even have a chance to

928
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 23: rush the past.

929
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 12: Some reports that teams are interested in trading for you, but.

930
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: That the Giants have said no, Uh what do you

931
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: think of that? How does that?

932
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 9: How does that make you feel?

933
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 18: Both the interest and the Giants stance?

934
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 21: Uh?

935
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 9: I just gotta keep getting better, man.

936
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 6: We got a long season ahead.

937
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 23: It's you know, uh, nine games left, eight games left,

938
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 23: we got a chance to still you know, pull this

939
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 23: thing out. So I'm just focused on getting better and

940
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 23: you know, contributing to the teams.

941
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 17: But as I can big picture and you guys are

942
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 17: so sorry.

943
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanna be the big picture.

944
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 17: A two and seven like last year, you guys seen

945
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 17: your first until after two and eighteen the first two.

946
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 17: How how sick are you being in this position like

947
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 17: well before Thanksgiving thee again?

948
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 23: Well, you know, I don't know. I was always told

949
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 23: you can't really look at the position you're in. You

950
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 23: got to look at, you know, where you're trying to

951
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 23: get to, and all your focus has to be geared

952
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 23: on the work that has to get done to get

953
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 23: to the place you want to be. So try not

954
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 23: to dwell and the hurt or the lows, and try

955
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 23: to just stay even killed and just keep grinding and

956
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 23: figuring out how to get out of it.

957
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: I remember a situation where we weren't playing good football.

958
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: You mentioned Mike Barrow, Preacher Barrow. Mike Barrow is a

959
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: preacher on the team, and he gave us this one,

960
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: non explicative because he doesn't cuss, but it was just

961
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: it was this impassioned rant about how and it's a cliche.

962
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: You heard it so many times.

963
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm sick and tired of being sick and

964
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: tired of the same stuff over and over and over again.

965
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: You need that, like you need an energy, and team's

966
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: lacking a little bit of that energy, like getting upset

967
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: and mad about and ineffectiveness and mediocrity. You can't stand

968
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: for it. And as soon as it creeps in, it

969
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: just it. It's like a parasite. It just infects everybody

970
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: around you and eventually guys just kind of just go

971
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: through the motions. And the last thing you need to

972
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: do for a team that's trying to fight is be

973
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: going through the motions. You can't win if you don't

974
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: have the passion. This game is physical. It is hard

975
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: as hell. The other team is trying to beat your

976
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 3: head in. You gotta be emotional about this. I'll tell

977
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: you what the Giants and other teams should clip caveon

978
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: Thibodeau because hey, I'm just out there trying to do

979
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: my job. I'm not seeing what other people doing. We

980
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: got to look at the film. It starts with me.

981
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: I'm always the most critical of myself like that was the.

982
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: Perfect That was the perfect.

983
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: Like scenario of in after a disaster, how to deal

984
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: with it? With the Mets, all of thiss were nodding

985
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: our heads along to way, no breadcrumbs and no, and

986
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: he just said, the first thing I do is point

987
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: the finger at myself and how can I be better?

988
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: That thumb guy? I like thumb guys. I pointed it

989
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: back at yourself. That was good. What can I what

990
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: can I do better to make us better? Yeah?

991
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: And I understand why the questions are being asked, but

992
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: like it's hard for the players because they're not You're

993
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: not seeing everything, you know with the effort. I think

994
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 4: sometimes like we talked, sometimes we talk about, oh, there's

995
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: a lack of effort. No, it's more of a lack

996
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: of execution. And like we saw with the Giants against

997
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: the Eagles, when you pound a team and pound a

998
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 4: team like the Giants did to the Eagles on that Thursday,

999
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 4: it makes the other team look like there's not effort.

1000
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that there's a lack of

1001
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: effort from the Giants.

1002
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 4: I think it's a I think they continue to get

1003
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: beat down and beat down and then worn down, and

1004
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: I think they lose a stamina on every.

1005
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: That's what it felt like in Denver, Right, It did

1006
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: this like you were so physically emotionally beat down that

1007
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: the effort it falls or shrinks a bit. But it's

1008
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: not because you don't care, correct.

1009
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 4: But I also think that it comes down to too,

1010
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: like the level of quality that you have.

1011
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: You know, like you know, sometimes when you're not good enough,

1012
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: it might look like you're not trying.

1013
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: You're just not as good as the guy you're trying

1014
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: to beat.

1015
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: Right, I think Corey Black is trying really round, but

1016
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: at this point in time, in his first season in

1017
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: the NFL, playing all these snaps against top flight guys,

1018
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 4: he looks like a rookie six round pick.

1019
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.

1020
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: And then so that I don't think it's I don't

1021
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 4: believe it's effort. I just believe it's when you're getting

1022
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: your butt whipped, then the effort starts to look bad.

1023
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: But I don't think that there's a I don't believe

1024
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: that they don't care.

1025
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: It reminds me.

1026
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Just last night, how many times have you watched a

1027
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: baseball game and the opposing pitcher is just so good

1028
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: they dominate the lineup, and you take the calls.

1029
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: Team, the team, and the energy. In this game, they

1030
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: they fired up.

1031
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: No, it's because the guy was stowing ninety five and

1032
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: is one hundred and two now right, and his pitches

1033
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: were falling off the table and they weren't good enough

1034
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: to hit the pitcher. So it looks like they didn't

1035
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: have energy. They just weren't good enough.

1036
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, just don't throw a hanging slider to the nine hitter.

1037
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right, like you know, the Giants didn't

1038
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: come out flat. I mean when the defense took the

1039
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: field in this game, they took the field with the lead, yes, just.

1040
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: Like in Denver.

1041
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: Then the defense until the very end of the game

1042
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: never took the field when they were trailing.

1043
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: By the way, they might have gotten off the field

1044
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: if they did. Missed that fallse star penalty on Kyle First.

1045
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean again, I don't think it. I don't

1046
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: think it changes the result. It probably doesn't, But in

1047
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: a sport filled with momentum, you're up seven to nothing,

1048
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna go for it on fourth down. Uti clearly

1049
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: commits a false start and now instead of the forty

1050
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: nine ers punting, the drive stays a lot I don't

1051
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: know what kind of energy that gives.

1052
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 2: But you know again, I don't change.

1053
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: It changes the trajectory play press conference brought to you

1054
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: by MetLife, the official insurance company of the New York Giants.

1055
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: Here's Jackson Dart at the podium downstairs. He's making his

1056
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: way to the podium after he got his he got

1057
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: all geared up in the locker room. Now he's heading

1058
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: to the podium. We're here from Jackson Dart in this game,

1059
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: who had a nice little game today. He finished in

1060
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: this game completing a high percentage of his passes. He

1061
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: was twenty four to thirty three FO one hundred and

1062
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: ninety one yards, two touchdowns, no picks. Now a lot

1063
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: of that game when it is the three score game

1064
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, but still counts. Here's Jackson Dart

1065
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: on the podium addressing the media downstairs underneath MetLife Stadium.

1066
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: Here's Jackson Dart.

1067
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 17: Jackson, first off, how you're feeling physically?

1068
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: He took some pretty big sh shots today.

1069
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 24: Yeah, definitely took a few hits, but no, I made

1070
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 24: it out good.

1071
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 9: Jackson.

1072
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 11: You guys in the six starts for opening drive, you

1073
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 11: score touchdowns? What is it that you're not able to

1074
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 11: execute later on in the game to have that same success.

1075
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 24: Uh, that's a tough question. We just had like penalties

1076
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 24: on you know, situations that really hurt where it's a

1077
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 24: you know, very manageable first down. I think that we

1078
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 24: are great on first and second now, and so we

1079
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 24: got into a lot of third and longs, and in

1080
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 24: this league, it's really hard.

1081
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, they did a really good job

1082
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 9: of just.

1083
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 24: Keeping everything in front of them, and you know, they

1084
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 24: just wasn't a ton of opportunities to you know, get

1085
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 24: behind them, just kind of how they're playing coverage, and

1086
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 24: you know that's kind of just their model. You know,

1087
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 24: they want to see, you know, if a team can

1088
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 24: continually stay positive, to drive down the whole field and

1089
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 24: not give.

1090
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 9: Up big plays.

1091
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 24: So when you get when you get into third and

1092
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 24: long situations, it makes it really hard.

1093
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 6: When Philadelphia, you and Camra kind of like you don't.

1094
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 11: Want to be lunked into the losing of the past, right,

1095
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 11: is there anything you see that is sort of carried over?

1096
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 6: Like obviously you're separate, you weren't part of that, But

1097
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 6: is there anything.

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Speaker 11: You see that kind of when things go bad, maybe

1099
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 11: you're not able to get it back moving in the

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Speaker 11: right direction here.

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Speaker 24: I mean, that's that's a hard question too.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 24: The biggest thing is, you know, I just think that

1104
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 24: we got to be able to not just let things

1105
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 24: collapse a little bit.

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Speaker 9: You know, good player is gonna happen for the other team.

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Speaker 24: That's just the league that we play in, and we

1108
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 24: can't let one lead to another. And I think that's

1109
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 24: just something that we need to get better at.

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Speaker 9: Like we have to have the intensity the focus as

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00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 9: a whole team.

1112
00:49:48,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 24: Too, you know, whether the adversity storms, and.

1113
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 9: You know, always just keep the keep the belief that

1114
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 9: we're gonna win.

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Speaker 24: You know, I think at times, you know, we just

1116
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 24: let you know, a few things lead to another instead

1117
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Speaker 24: of just you know, shutting it down one play at

1118
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Speaker 24: a time.

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Speaker 6: I believe getting tested in the results.

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Speaker 9: Again, well it's not fun to lose.

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Speaker 2: So it's.

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Speaker 24: You know, I you know, I have all the confidence

1123
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Speaker 24: in the world, you know, each and every week that

1124
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Speaker 24: we're gonna win. And I don't ever view another team,

1125
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Speaker 24: you know, any differently. And and I think it's just

1126
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Speaker 24: just as a team, you know, we have opportunities to

1127
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Speaker 24: take advantage of moments, and I thought we did today too,

1128
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Speaker 24: and you know, there's just certain plays that you.

1129
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Speaker 9: Know, we got to make.

1130
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Speaker 24: And I think that we just need to play you know,

1131
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 24: better football around as a team, you know, from both

1132
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Speaker 24: sides of ball, special teams. I think, I think that

1133
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 24: when you look at the whole spectrum of things, that

1134
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Speaker 24: we just missed out on.

1135
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Speaker 9: Certain plays at all three phases.

1136
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Speaker 24: And uh, you know, in this league, you can't do that.

1137
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 24: You know, you got to be able to win at

1138
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 24: least two of them to win the game. And I

1139
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 24: think that they you know, maybe more plays than we

1140
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 24: did in those three phases.

1141
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 13: Jackson Names was in here and said, you know, he

1142
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 13: called you the leader of the team. He didn't say

1143
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 13: you were just the leader of the offense. He said

1144
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 13: you were the leader of this team for you the

1145
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 13: last couple of weeks, obviously you've talked about how much

1146
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 13: you hate losing and how you manifest.

1147
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 8: That in your play.

1148
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 13: How do you take a step away from just being

1149
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 13: the quarterback, but from being the leader of this team

1150
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 13: and get this team where it needs to be for

1151
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 13: next week.

1152
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, just I'm gonna continue to encourage you know, we

1153
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 9: have we have really talented players.

1154
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 24: And you know, guys who you know, have an opportunity

1155
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 24: each week to do really good things. So you know,

1156
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 24: I'm just gonna continue to do my job and encouraging

1157
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 24: everybody around me, you know, try to hold you know,

1158
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 24: a standard to myself each and every day that you know,

1159
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 24: hopefully I can try to you know, raise the bar

1160
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 24: for everybody else. And you know, we're close, Like I mean,

1161
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 24: when you when you look at this season, and I

1162
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 24: know that you know, you can say this for a

1163
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 24: lot of teams, but you know we're really close to

1164
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 24: you know, having the season kind of flipped in the

1165
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 24: different direction, you know.

1166
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 9: And.

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00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think it's just gonna take all of us

1168
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 24: collectively to try it away, to try to find a

1169
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 24: way to just win one game at a time, and

1170
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 24: you know, we know what that feeling feels like. And

1171
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 24: then we're gonna have to be able to respond to

1172
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 24: do the same thing the next week.

1173
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 9: And I think that you know, that will help us,

1174
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 9: you know, try to get on a roll.

1175
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 24: But you know, we're gonna have some more guys get healthy,

1176
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 24: and uh, you know that will help, you know, in

1177
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 24: these coming weeks, and as leaders, we just got to

1178
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 24: stay together and you know, try to just raise the

1179
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 24: bar for everybody around us, and and you know for

1180
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 24: us as well, we gotta you know, we gotta play

1181
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 24: better too.

1182
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 13: Thequence in that sequence at the end of the first

1183
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 13: half when Brian had the hat the strip sack there,

1184
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 13: what happened on that on that series?

1185
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: You think any order, do you think you maybe you could.

1186
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 6: Have gotten more aggressive than that.

1187
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: It looks almost looks like you're kind of playing for

1188
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: three there.

1189
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 24: I don't think we were playing for three at all

1190
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 24: because we're trying to score a touchdown and just didn't

1191
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 24: execute places that were called.

1192
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 9: Thought they were good plays that were called, We just didn't,

1193
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 9: you know, execute them, whether we should have.

1194
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 22: It's players have The difficult is that when you go

1195
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 22: on the half tone walk rok not doing gun points

1196
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 22: out of that, just mentally to.

1197
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 17: Try to get over that as.

1198
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: You come out in the.

1199
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 24: Firm, Yeah, you have to in those situations, you have

1200
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 24: to get points. So you know, it's definitely a sour taste,

1201
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 24: but you know, we got to be able to come

1202
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 24: out in the second half and respond better and play,

1203
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 24: you know, complimentary football we played no matter we lost.

1204
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 11: Did you have more did teams have more film on you?

1205
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 11: Are you starting to see different adjustments and in the

1206
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 11: way teams are scheming against you?

1207
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

1208
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 24: You know, I thought that they did a good job

1209
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 24: of you know, kind of like collapsing you know, the

1210
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 24: pocket it. And I think that that's just kind of

1211
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 24: the going to be the name of the game going forward.

1212
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 24: You know, I think that teams understand that, you know,

1213
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 24: I can run a little bit, so you know, when

1214
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 24: there's lanes that open up, you know, I can get

1215
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 24: a first down.

1216
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 9: But they did a good job.

1217
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 24: You know, they kind of collapsed the pocket on you,

1218
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 24: and you know, played soft coverage all around, and you know,

1219
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 24: we got caught in situations that were hard to manage

1220
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 24: quite honestly.

1221
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 14: The one from on, the one from behind, you know

1222
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 14: what I mean. You didn't see him, you rolled, you know,

1223
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 14: god of a broken play. You didn't seehim at all.

1224
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 14: And how did you hold onto the ball in that situation?

1225
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 9: Mmmmm, strong hands?

1226
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 6: But you didn't send.

1227
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 14: Anything from behind you, did you?

1228
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 16: Uh?

1229
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 9: I mean.

1230
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 24: Maybe until like the last second. But you know, some

1231
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 24: of those are hard. I mean, I don't don't have

1232
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 24: eyes in the back of my head, and uh, you know,

1233
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 24: they did a good job. I thought, you know, they

1234
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 24: were a defense that really played through the whistle, and

1235
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 24: you saw that on film, so you know, you know,

1236
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 24: me extending those players, they did a good job, you know,

1237
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 24: rallying as a defense.

1238
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 17: What was your feeling about all the forty nine er

1239
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 17: fans that were in the building today?

1240
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 9: That was interesting.

1241
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 24: I've never played at a home game where I felt

1242
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 24: like it was kind of lobsided in that department, But

1243
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 24: you know, they have a good fan.

1244
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 9: Base and they traveled well.

1245
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 12: Where said before you got the starting job, you were

1246
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 12: confident that you could give them the opportunity to elevate

1247
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 12: this team in free achise.

1248
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 6: Now that you've seen the league in.

1249
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 13: Your six starts, is that confidence at the same level

1250
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 13: as it greater than as a lesson?

1251
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 6: How would you characterize.

1252
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, my confidence doesn't waiver. I feel like.

1253
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 24: I work as hard as I can each and every

1254
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 24: week to prepare, and I have confidence in the guys

1255
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 24: around me. I have confidence in the coaches. So that's

1256
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 24: something that's You're not going to waver at all.

1257
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: Do you have an upcoming game against Chicago Operation.

1258
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 24: Uh, we gotta win, so that needs to be the

1259
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 24: focus and the only focus.

1260
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 10: Jackson, it seems like you're you and Brian have a

1261
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 10: very unique relationship.

1262
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 20: As these losses pile up, the stability for his job

1263
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 20: is going to get significant, and the chances of change

1264
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 20: are going to increase and increase and increase.

1265
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 10: Do you feel that pressure to turn this around and

1266
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 10: turn this around quick because of what could change if

1267
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 10: to lose and if the losses.

1268
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 15: Keep doing to keep hiding on.

1269
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 24: I understand the question, but you know I'm gonna give

1270
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 24: you the answer that I truly feel and said that

1271
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 24: I can only control what I can control, and uh,

1272
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 24: I don't want to look at things that way. I

1273
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 24: don't want to get too far ahead of myself in

1274
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 24: any regard.

1275
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 9: I want to just live in the moment that I have.

1276
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 24: I want to take advantage of the opportunities that I have.

1277
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 24: As a team, you know, we should be thinking that

1278
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 24: same way. And you know, we have a chance to

1279
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 24: win every game that we have on our schedule, and

1280
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 24: that's how I feel. So you know, we got to

1281
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 24: find a way as players, the guys who out there

1282
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 24: on the field to make enough plays to win the game.

1283
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 9: And you know that's kind of how I view things.

1284
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 24: Like the coaches they call the players, But you know,

1285
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 24: a play can technically work against any defense or any

1286
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 24: coverage or whatever it is. Same thing goes from the

1287
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 24: defensive side. As players, we gotta be better and you

1288
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 24: know they're not the ones out there on the field.

1289
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 9: You know we are.

1290
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 24: So I think us as a as a team need

1291
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 24: to be better that way, K Joe.

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00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: That's Jackson Dart. Let's take a quick time out.

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Speaker 1: Come back react to Jackson Dart and more after the

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Speaker 1: Giants thirty four to twenty four loss. But first, let's

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Speaker 4: First senaty twenty four dark back Buyers one towards the

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Speaker 4: end zone.

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Speaker 2: Caught by a Sky from the touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Dark fitted between two defenders here and Gonoro Shwski with

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Speaker 4: a touchdown Cats with.

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Speaker 1: One twenty one to go in the game, twenty four

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Speaker 1: yard connection from Dark Toolschewsky that capped off a nine

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Speaker 1: play sixty nine yard drive, the longest drive of the

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Speaker 1: game and that touchdown, So that made it Today's drive

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Speaker 1: of the game, brought to you by Citizens. For every

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Speaker 1: scoring drive this season, the Citizens will donate seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty dollars for the Giants Foundation to support their

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Speaker 1: work tackling important community issues, improving overall health and empowering

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Speaker 1: Howard johnsh Melt, Tiki Barber bought Papa with You, Giants

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Speaker 1: extra point, Giants fall to the forty nine ers thirty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty four. And Bob Jackson the already usually

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Speaker 1: said all the right things in that press conference about

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Speaker 1: need to play better and the answer all the questions

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to, But it was really the first time

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Speaker 1: all season I really sensed a real dejection from him.

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Speaker 1: He sounded very, very down in that press conference.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I think the losing and the way things

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Speaker 4: are going, uh, it's it's and that's part of being

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Speaker 4: a pro tiky.

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Speaker 2: You can speak to this better than I can.

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Speaker 4: But you know you're gonna lose games in the NFL

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Speaker 4: and not everybody gets to you know, come in and

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Speaker 4: be on a perennial winner, and he's part of what

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Speaker 4: the future could be as far as this franchise is concerned.

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Speaker 1: You think, when's last time you think in his football

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Speaker 1: life he lost three straight games?

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Speaker 2: I'd probably never.

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Speaker 4: Never, But that's every guy that comes for most guys

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Speaker 4: that come in the NFL the point they're used to nothing.

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Speaker 4: But they were the best players in high school.

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Speaker 2: It depends what college program they went down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they if they went to a big program, especially

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Speaker 3: if you're a first round quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You haven't you're not on a team that was bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like long gone of the days where Phil Simms

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Speaker 4: went in the top five in the draft as a

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Speaker 4: first round draft pick and his team was I think

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Speaker 4: he said his final year Morehead State, they were like

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Speaker 4: three and nine.

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Speaker 2: Jones isn't used to losing either. I'm none of.

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Speaker 4: Those guys get drafted in the first round anymore. Like

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Speaker 4: they don't do that kind of stuff now.

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Speaker 3: But winning becomes a big part of your resume, even

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Speaker 3: if it has nothing to do with you.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like, look, he's taking a beating, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think he's got to be I mean.

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Speaker 3: Some of it is self inflicted, right, Like he that

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Speaker 3: one of those scrambles when he's running down left sideline,

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Speaker 3: he puts his head into the defense. That's silly to

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Speaker 3: try to get extra yardage. And I mean, I get

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Speaker 3: he's trying to be a winning player, but you also

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Speaker 3: have to be available for the next week. It's a

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Speaker 3: quarterback in particular, that's the most important ability. We always

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Speaker 3: talk about it. Availability is the best ability. But Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dark can't keep taking the hits that he's taking. Some

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Speaker 3: of them are on him. Some of them, like the

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Speaker 3: sack that probably was also.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say that is also on him.

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Speaker 2: Hold the ball.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes it's not your fault. I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of the hits today on Jackson Dart where his fault.

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Speaker 3: Now I get the last one where he got hitting

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Speaker 3: the shoulder, as it was his left shoulder he got

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Speaker 3: hit on. He's trying to get the first down, and

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Speaker 3: in some ways I commend him for that because I

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Speaker 3: get he's trying to get the first down and keep

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Speaker 3: his team on the field. It's a winning type play,

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Speaker 3: but it's also going to take a toll over time.

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Speaker 4: I think a revealing comment that he made was he goes,

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Speaker 4: you know, we got to execute better. You know, no

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Speaker 4: one they don't call it like at the end of

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Speaker 4: the half, right they're talking about, uh, you know, kind

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Speaker 4: of look like you were playing for a field goal.

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Speaker 4: They were not looking like they were playing for a

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Speaker 4: field goal. They I mean, the result of the play

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Speaker 4: looked like they were playing for a field but they

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Speaker 4: thought that they would be able to spring and run

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Speaker 4: on the first play.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 4: But like, I think one of the areas of frustration

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Speaker 4: thing you heard was like, yeah, I mean we went

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Speaker 4: from a third and short, third manageable to a third

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Speaker 4: and law, Like, you can't be commit these penalties. You

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Speaker 4: know where you went from third and three the third

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Speaker 4: and thirteen because you committed two fallse star penalties back.

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Speaker 2: To back, like.

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Speaker 4: You know, and look when you have a bad series

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Speaker 4: as a quarterback, right, complimentary football, Oh you have it

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Speaker 4: three and out, Like can we get the ball back? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Giant defense does not give the ball back to

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Speaker 4: the offense.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: There's only one turnover in this game, and that was

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Speaker 3: that Brian Burns strip sack which ondly came looked like

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Speaker 3: an interception for Abdul Carter, but it was actually a

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Speaker 3: fumble recovery for Abdul Carter. And I think the one

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Speaker 3: thing that I heard with Jackson Dart is the effort

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Speaker 3: is there, like we know we're trying to win, but

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Speaker 3: you can't make mistakes in the NFL as consistently as

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Speaker 3: the Giants have done and expect to win games. I

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Speaker 3: don't care who you're playing if you make too many

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Speaker 3: of them. In this game, it wasn't turnovers. It was

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Speaker 3: procedural pre snap penalties that made third and shorts into

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Speaker 3: an insurmountable third down.

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Speaker 1: I think Yelso drops. You know he's not gonna call

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Speaker 1: these receivers. That's not who he is. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: we saw the TV and video of him after the

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Speaker 1: Slaton drop on the field. He was clearly frustrated that

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Speaker 1: that ball was not right because it was in it

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Speaker 1: was and I understand that we saw the way. I'm

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Speaker 1: not criticizing it.

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Speaker 2: It was a great pass. It was right where it

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Speaker 2: needed to be.

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Speaker 3: Dare Slayton caught the football, but then he tried to

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Speaker 3: brace himself going to the ground and it's what I

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Speaker 3: remember as a as a pass catcher. As a running back,

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Speaker 3: one of the hardest things to learn is one how

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Speaker 3: to take contact and then two how to go to

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Speaker 3: the ground and maintain possession. And it was it wasn't

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Speaker 3: a winning play by Darius Slayton. Ultimately they made.

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Speaker 1: Up for it.

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Speaker 3: But you catch that ball, you gotta go to the

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Speaker 3: ground with the ball wrapped up.

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Speaker 2: It can never become an afterthought.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean and listen again, I go go

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Speaker 4: back to New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: You can go through a lot of these games.

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Speaker 4: Man, his numbers would look a lot different if they

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Speaker 4: just caught the ball on an n L NFL average standard.

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Speaker 4: But they have way too many drops, you know, on

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Speaker 4: you know, just think about You're trying to get back

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Speaker 4: in the game. San Francisco's march down and scored. You

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Speaker 4: got a third down. You dial up the exact perfect

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Speaker 4: play and you throw the ball in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the field and your tight end drops it with nobody

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Speaker 4: around them, right, Like, those are the things that are

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Speaker 4: gonna wear on him.

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Speaker 2: And uh yeah, you start.

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Speaker 3: Even though he won't say it, Jackson Dart, I think

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Speaker 3: will always say the right thing. Agreed, But it wears

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Speaker 3: on your trust and your confidence and your teammates even

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Speaker 3: if you won't say it.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, I couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Drop back and you say like who am I? Who

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Speaker 4: am I gonna throw it to? Like, well, you know

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Speaker 4: what are the probabilities it's gonna get caught?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: And this is the other thing I thought he said

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Speaker 2: that was telling me.

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Speaker 1: He said, look, even if the coach makes a bad

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Speaker 1: call right and we can work. They think the defense

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Speaker 1: is gonna be in Cover two, but they're actually in

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Speaker 1: man or cover three, and we have a Cover two

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Speaker 1: beater call, but they're not in the defense we thought

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be in.

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Speaker 2: It's still an tick. You talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's still within the player's power to make that play work.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And it doesn't always translate because guys aren't

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Speaker 3: ready to make their that play and in their moments.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Jackson Dart's got a lot, He's done

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Speaker 3: a lot of really good things. I think the the

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Speaker 3: evolution is still happening. You don't see this a lot

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Speaker 3: with this offense, and I think it's because Jackson's a

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Speaker 3: rookie and as it didn't have a full offseason as

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Speaker 3: the guy and learning everything. But when you when I

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Speaker 3: watch NFL football other teams, there's so many kills. Right,

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Speaker 3: you go into the game killing. Killing a play means

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Speaker 3: you go to the second play called in the huddle.

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Speaker 3: You're not getting a lot of that. You recognize it.

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Speaker 3: This isn't gonna work. Kill kill, Let's get to the

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Speaker 3: next to the next play. Jackson Dart's not there yet,

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Speaker 3: at least not. This offense isn't there yet, and as

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Speaker 3: a result, you end up having to run plays that

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Speaker 3: are called into defenses that aren't our deal for them.

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Speaker 3: And eventually that's gonna come. It's just they're not quite

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Speaker 3: there yet. And by the battle ourmind people.

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Speaker 1: This is why at this time of year, before the year,

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Speaker 1: when we were trying to predict when Jackson Dart was

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Speaker 1: going to play his first game, this was like the

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Speaker 1: earliest we were talking about maybe him getting in there,

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Speaker 1: depending on how the season went. So this is why

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks need developmental time. It's not to quote Carl

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Speaker 1: you know, recipe, put him in the oven, they come

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Speaker 1: out finished products. That's not how this works. So he

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Speaker 1: is gonna have to have and I think that's part

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Speaker 1: of the reason they did new Huddler right because you can.

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Speaker 2: Get to the line.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback helmet thing is acted till fifteen seconds, so

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Speaker 1: we can get some help from the coaches and you

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Speaker 1: see what the defense looks like early in the playclock.

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Speaker 1: So this is stuff that no rookie is gonna be

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Speaker 1: good at right away, and he is gonna get better

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Speaker 1: at as he gets more experience.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the most important thing it goes back

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Speaker 4: to Tiki's original point. He has to and look, I

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Speaker 4: know the coaches have stressed it with him, and I

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Speaker 4: know for a fact because I know people on the

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Speaker 4: staff at all miss this was something that was a

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Speaker 4: problem with him when he was in college, about being

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Speaker 4: a little reckless with his body. And I think, if

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Speaker 4: you're a Giant fan, if you work for the Giants,

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Speaker 4: uh in any part of the football or the organization,

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Speaker 4: that one message has to start to resonate with him

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Speaker 4: much more emphatically, because in order for this season to

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Speaker 4: have a ribbon of hope, it's that he plays the

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Speaker 4: remaining games in this season games left.

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Speaker 2: He needs to be an awful and and just.

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Speaker 4: To get that experience and to see these things like

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Speaker 4: Tiki's talking about kill and what you can add more

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Speaker 4: to and just him seeing more defenses, more players, more personnel,

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Speaker 4: different looks so that he can continue to grow as

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Speaker 4: a player. The last thing you want is because of now,

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Speaker 4: injuries happen and you can't control them. Right, it's a

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Speaker 4: physical game, but let's not put ourselves at risk. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we lean necessarily, like if it's if it's a in

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Speaker 4: goal situation, gotta have it, then.

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Speaker 2: You're doing it.

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Speaker 4: But some of them, right, But some of these other ones,

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Speaker 4: like like you said, Tiki running to the sideline, it

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Speaker 4: was getting the first down and then still lookering looking

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 4: the lower the boom.

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01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: Along the sideline.

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01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 4: Yes, you you can't because you're too important to not

1535
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 4: only this year, but twenty twenty six, twenty seven and

1536
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 4: hopefully there and beyond. So every game is a learning

1537
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 4: lesson and a and a part of his undergraduate study

1538
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 4: to becoming a graduate school level player. And the one

1539
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 4: thing you want to do is let's try to minimize

1540
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: the risk injuries, because you can't minimize injury risk just

1541
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 4: playing this sport.

1542
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: But let's not put ourselves in a harm's way unnecessarily.

1543
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen was on the Giants Hoddle podcast with us

1544
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: back in June. You guys can go find it Giants

1545
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, podcast platforms everywhere, Giants, Small Black Giants dot Com,

1546
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: Slash podcast. And that's the one thing that Lane Kiffen

1547
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: kind of really joked about. He goes, Yeah, we tried

1548
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: to get him to slide and that did not go

1549
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: really well. Like we kept telling him and telling him,

1550
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: tell them, he's just too competitive and you.

1551
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 3: Can live like that as long as you you're You're

1552
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 3: you're built that way.

1553
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: Baker Challenge or Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield lives that way.

1554
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: He plays reckless sometimes with his body, but he's he's

1555
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: durable and he's a veteran and he's got like the

1556
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 3: callous is so to speak. And what I mean by

1557
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 3: that he knows how to take those hits and it's

1558
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: not going recklessly into contact. It's going prudently into contact.

1559
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: And he will slide Baker when he had but he'll

1560
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: also go get himself a first down when he has

1561
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: when he needs it, when he needs it.

1562
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 4: And the other thing is when he was doing that

1563
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 4: at Old Miss, he was getting hit by people that

1564
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,520
Speaker 4: are now onto whatever phase of life. Yeah, they're working professionally,

1565
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 4: their accounts, whatever phase of life they're on after football

1566
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 4: by some of the people that he was hit by.

1567
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 4: Now I know the SEC they turn out a lot

1568
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 4: of players, but still the percentages are small.

1569
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: Now he's getting hit by NFL.

1570
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 4: People, right, it's a different, it's a different I just

1571
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 4: want the way.

1572
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: Look, I want to see him continue to evolve. And

1573
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 3: it's it's the one thing that you look at this

1574
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 3: team and say, other than Brian Burns, because he's been

1575
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 3: fantastic obviously this season, but you look at Jackson Dart

1576
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: and you just want to see him continue to grow

1577
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: because he provides And you mentioned this earlier John the

1578
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: hope or maybe it was Bob, he's the hope for

1579
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: this organization going forward, and you want to see him

1580
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 3: play as often as you can because he does give

1581
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 3: you a chance to win in almost any of these games.

1582
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,839
Speaker 3: He said it, we can win any of these games.

1583
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 3: But you don't have a margin for era. You can't

1584
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 3: make mistakes. That's mostly the drop passes. It's the missed

1585
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 3: opportunities that this team continually has weekend and week out.

1586
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Bob, you're about to say, sign or here any final

1587
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: thoughts with the Giants taking on the Bears next week.

1588
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: I think we've kind of just covered it all.

1589
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: But John, you gave the stat with DeAndre Swift out

1590
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 4: today for the Bears, what are the other running back?

1591
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: Run? Calm and young guy?

1592
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: When I think was one seventy six last tight I saw,

1593
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't have it in front of me, but yeah,

1594
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: he went for a lot.

1595
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 4: Okay, they played Cincinnati and we know how bad they

1596
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 4: are defensively. However, the Giants run defense has not been

1597
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 4: very good this year and this game today, their numbers

1598
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 4: are gonna drop even more in the wrong direction. So again,

1599
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,520
Speaker 4: if they can't do something to play better.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six six.

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 4: They can't do something to play better, it's gonna be

1602
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 4: more of the same.

1603
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is This is as a running back coming

1604
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 3: into this game, or offensive line and run running back.

1605
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: So the run game coming into any game against the Giants,

1606
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 3: you're licking your chops because you feel like there is

1607
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: going to be an opportunity for me to have a

1608
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 3: big play.

1609
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: No question about it. All Right, let's take a time

1610
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: out and look Ben Jonson. We know coming from the lines,

1611
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna run the football too. Run, They're gonna they're

1612
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna pound it.

1613
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: It's just watching the team. You saw the Niners run

1614
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,440
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of plays that the Eagles.

1615
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: Ran until you prove you can stop the whole first

1616
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: albag is nothing up. Perimeter runs the same exact thing

1617
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: the Eagles did against the Giants last week. You're absolutely

1618
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: right right quick time out, we'll come back, we'll wrap

1619
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: up the network, and then we'll open up the phones

1620
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: right here. As the Giants fall to the forty nine

1621
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: ers thirty four to twenty four.

1622
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: Met Life Stadium will be right back.

1623
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

1624
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 5: Radio Network.

1625
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 23: This is Andrew Thomas, and you're listening to Giants football

1626
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 23: on the Fan WFAN and WFAN FM, New York Field.

1627
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: We're back here on Giants Extra Point.

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: The Giants fall to the forty nine ers thirty four

1629
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 1: to twenty four. We thank everyone for joining us on

1630
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: our network today.

1631
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: Please stick with us if you are listening on WFAN

1632
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: here in New York.

1633
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: But it's time to say goodbye everyone across the country,

1634
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: all of our affiliates on the Giants Radio Network. Our

1635
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: next broadcast will be next Sunday in Chicago. The Giants

1636
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: visiting the Chicago Bears who defeated the Bengals in a

1637
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: shootout today forty seven to forty two. We thank everyone

1638
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: across our next works were joining us today and remember

1639
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,759
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1640
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1641
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1642
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1643
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Speaker 1: take your calls every weekday afternoon, and we have our

1644
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: special Saturday edition of Big Bloo Kick Goolf Live that

1645
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,360
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01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,160
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1647
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: calls as well, and you should check out the Giants

1648
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: Little Podcast on the Giants official podcast network feed as well.

1649
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: Make sure you check that out. Thank you for being

1650
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: with us across our radio network.

1651
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: We will see you next week pregame at noon on

1652
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: our network when the Giants.

1653
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: Visit the Chicago Bears, we'll see that everybody. Thanks you

1654
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: for being with us.

1655
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: But we're not done right here on Wfan in New York,

1656
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: Tiky and I will take your calls.

1657
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: I think Theatino's flowing around so ohright's right behind me.

1658
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: You're scared the heck that you call?

1659
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: We're at eight eight eight eight one zero one to nine,

1660
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,560
Speaker 1: and we'll play a little bit more sound for the

1661
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: locker room as well. We'll take you up until Nets

1662
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: basketball at ten to six.

1663
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 2: Will be right back after this.

1664
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 16: This is Devin Singletary and you're listening to Giants Football

1665
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 16: on the fan w FA n and w FA n FM,

1666
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 16: New York.

1667
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: Go back here on Giants extra point. Giants fall to

1668
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers thirty four to twenty four. Bauldotino

1669
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: joins us with taking the calls at eight eight eight

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: eight h eight one zero one nine.

1671
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: Get on the line. We'll talk Giants.

1672
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: Football with you, but first I want to hear from

1673
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: Nacho down in the locker room. That's probably our last

1674
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: piece of player sound. Again, rough game for the defense

1675
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: in the second half. We've heard from Kaevon, We've heard

1676
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: from Dexter Lawrence.

1677
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: Here's Nacho.

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01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 17: I think they averaged almost six yards of play and

1679
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 17: I came, what do you think about that?

1680
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 21: Uh? The honest just too much for care, too much

1681
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 21: for care. We gotta find a way to limit doos

1682
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 21: get negative. Players are limited to three yards.

1683
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 4: Did they do something today specifically that you guys were

1684
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 4: ready for.

1685
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 21: Na, I wouldn't say at all. We went over We

1686
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 21: knew that game plan. We just gotta execute, y'alla. Make

1687
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 21: the players that come to you execue on the higher level.

1688
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 21: Do the simple things better said before.

1689
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 17: Still gotta execute what I step into this defense in

1690
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 17: the last two games and change from the end of

1691
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 17: the Denver.

1692
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 9: Game through the end of this game.

1693
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 21: Uh.

1694
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 6: I mean you got injuries.

1695
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 21: You're relying on newer guys, so you have newer vices,

1696
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 21: newer people having to learn. You know what's going on.

1697
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 21: They're stepping in and shoot. You gotta step in. You

1698
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 21: gotta step up. You gotta do your job at a

1699
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 21: higher standard. And that's all it is.

1700
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: Are you okay?

1701
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 15: You've been You've played in the league for a long time,

1702
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 15: You've been on winning teams.

1703
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 6: Are you okay with some of the effort that you

1704
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 6: saw out there?

1705
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 21: I would love to finish stronger. I I wouldn't say

1706
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 21: guys are n are not trying. I wouldn't say guys

1707
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 21: aren't all in at all. But we have to find

1708
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 21: a way to hone in on the details and finish

1709
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 21: it's not effort thing, it's just pure execution.

1710
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 25: What do you think is contributed to that or why

1711
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 25: the execution is being executed.

1712
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 21: I mean, just go back to what we said earlier,

1713
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 21: what you said from the Democrat. You just got younger guys,

1714
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 21: and you got guys that you got to bring along.

1715
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 21: So they're playing through their mistakes, they learn as they go.

1716
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 21: But where we're at right now, wearing a win mode,

1717
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 21: wearing a win now situation, and sometimes you can't allow

1718
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 21: those things to, you know, come to surface. But we

1719
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 21: have them, the younger guys, younger players, and we just

1720
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 21: got to bring them along.

1721
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: That's not true.

1722
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: After the game, and Paul, you were down in the locker,

1723
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 1: I want to get to the calls quick, but anything

1724
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: to note down there real fast, to.

1725
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 26: Be perfect honest with you, John, and the locker room

1726
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 26: emptied out really quickly today, and I'm not surprised. It

1727
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 26: was probably the fastest that I saw most of those

1728
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 26: guys get dressed and leave. No Brian Burns after the game, huh,

1729
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 26: Brian Burns went out while we were talking to Dexter

1730
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 26: Lawrence and Jandille Robinson on the other side of the

1731
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 26: locker room, that's when he was able to get out.

1732
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: He is a guy who has so much pride and

1733
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: he's such a pro. Oh no, he always does a

1734
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: great job talking after the game. Why I asked, He's

1735
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:04,480
Speaker 1: always available.

1736
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 26: Always, but this particular moment, you know, everybody else was

1737
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 26: on the other side of the locker room when when

1738
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 26: he left, and he wasn't going to stand around there.

1739
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: Like a like. I wasn't criticizing him. It's just that

1740
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: you weren't. I know you weren't. I always like here

1741
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: from after the game. It's usually so good with his media.

1742
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 3: You gotta imagine he's very frustrated because he's having an

1743
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 3: all pro type season. Yes, he's impactful almost every single game.

1744
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: He's eleven sacks. Obviously had the past deflected as you

1745
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: were talking about, and it was a big play that

1746
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: was waiting to happen behind him. And when when when

1747
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 3: the rest of the team's not matching hit your performance,

1748
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 3: it gets just it gets maddening. And so I bet

1749
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 3: he is the angry guy. I was talking earlier in

1750
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 3: this postgame about how I'd love to see guys be

1751
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 3: angry about the mediocrity that they're seeing out on the field.

1752
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 3: That they're producing out on the field, and I bet

1753
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 3: he has that and he just doesn't want to express it,

1754
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 3: especially right after a bad loss.

1755
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 26: Like that, and that maybe that's not such a bad idea.

1756
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 26: I agree, to be honest, I want to now. I

1757
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 26: only want to say one thing here, John. It was

1758
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 26: his what was called a sack force fumble that Abdul

1759
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 26: Carter wound up picking up out of the air, and

1760
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 26: the Giants at that point, had they done something specifically

1761
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 26: punched it in for a touchdown, the tenor of this

1762
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 26: game might have changed.

1763
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: And they missed. They missed it, but they get nothing.

1764
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: They got zero. They got nothing.

1765
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 26: And I asked that question to a lot of guys

1766
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 26: in the locker room about how deflating that was, because,

1767
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 26: to be honest, the whole second half was forty nine.

1768
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: Is football right?

1769
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: The football guy has continue to conspire against abduall Carter

1770
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: getting stats.

1771
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 2: They took the interception away from football. Coveries are nice too,

1772
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: but they are they aren't interceptions. Yeah, but I think

1773
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: I think his right too.

1774
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 3: He just it's gotta he's gotta get right in better

1775
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 3: positions to make those plays.

1776
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: And I think that'll happen in time. All right, guys,

1777
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: we only got about fifteen minutes here and we gotta

1778
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: take one more break.

1779
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to motor through these calls. So guys,

1780
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: make your big point, get to it. We're gonna go

1781
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: on to the next clause. Let's be quick here. I'll

1782
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: go in the order which you guys called in. Harvey

1783
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: and Dixie's will go first. What's what's up?

1784
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 6: How are you?

1785
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 25: I'll try to be quick. Just to repeat itself. I

1786
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 25: still love Ticky's book My Life in the Game, And Tiky,

1787
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 25: you have mentioned that the most difficult test view was

1788
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 25: translating the tape to the field. Well, I'll tell you

1789
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 25: what this is. This is a call in May two

1790
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 25: weeks ago dropping catchable balls theo Johnson on the chest,

1791
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 25: Slayton drops the ball in the end zone off off

1792
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 25: his hands, and and neighbors last year saying I'm finally

1793
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 25: learning how to catch a ball in my hands. Why

1794
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 25: don't they watch the tape that you watch? Ticky?

1795
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean part of it is that preciate to

1796
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: Harvey you call every week.

1797
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 3: But I think it's it's it's a fundamental in the moment,

1798
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: like the ball is happening, the pressure of them of

1799
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: the game is you're in it and being calm in

1800
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 3: that moment is is I want to say, it's hard,

1801
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 3: but it's learned and when you learn it and you

1802
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 3: become urgent to it, you end up making those plays

1803
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 3: and the Giants aren't doing that.

1804
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: And to me, a lot of.

1805
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,480
Speaker 3: People want to point the coaching that's it's it's individuals

1806
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 3: like it's how are you individually making yourself better for

1807
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 3: when those moments happen during the week, during the offseason,

1808
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: whatever it is, so that you can trust yourself and

1809
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 3: more importantly, your quarterback.

1810
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 2: And play callers can trust you. It's not just an offense.

1811
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 26: Banks had that interception, It had his name all over it,

1812
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 26: and he doesn't win the fifty fifth out.

1813
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: Banks failing to tackle Brian Robinson on the pitch play

1814
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: to the right, no question. It's plays like that is

1815
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: with one on one plays that the Giants are not

1816
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: winning on those one on one plays, right or just

1817
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: basic plays when you got to make the play.

1818
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: Let's get to Justin and Dobbs Verry, Justin, what's up?

1819
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: What's up? Justin?

1820
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 19: Hey, what's going on? Guys? Saying about people being mad?

1821
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 19: When is somebody being mad enough to get rid of

1822
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 19: the bowen. This defense is horrendous and it's the same

1823
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 19: Vanello defense in and outgagant run over on run plays.

1824
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 19: We're not making any big plays with these guys on

1825
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 19: the front line here. It's like this defense is not working.

1826
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 19: They need they need a different they need a different

1827
01:20:58,680 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 19: spokesperson here for the de.

1828
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Well justin here. Here's what I think.

1829
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 3: And you heard Nacho say this a little bit about

1830
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 3: the young guys, and you got to get them up

1831
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 3: the speed. You got to get them playing at a

1832
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 3: high level. It's hard to do when this happens in

1833
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: the middle of the season.

1834
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: And by way, then you can't do complicated things.

1835
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 3: You end up having to be vanilla because you don't

1836
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 3: trust that you're going to call something that's more complex

1837
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 3: or nuanced as far as scheme, and trust that those

1838
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 3: guys are going to be in the right place.

1839
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: You don't want busted coverages. It's it's worse, right, it's

1840
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: worse though.

1841
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: You're right, you'll get seventy yard plays as opposed to

1842
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty yard plays like we saw in this game.

1843
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Lucas and Randolph New Jersey, Lucas,

1844
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: you're up next.

1845
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 15: Hey, thanks for taking he was great to see you

1846
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 15: last week at the five pay events.

1847
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: Appreciate you man, Thanks for coming out to that.

1848
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, I appreciate you.

1849
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 19: Appreciate you.

1850
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 15: My question is, and you kind of touched with Caller

1851
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 15: two ago. You know, it's the fundamental I understand that

1852
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 15: you've been missing the tackles, the missing the catches, but

1853
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 15: when does it start to reflect that it is also

1854
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 15: a coaching aspect because they should be reviewing this like

1855
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 15: day in and day out with with the team members,

1856
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 15: and when does it get to the point where maybe

1857
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 15: it is time to move on from dabble or other

1858
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 15: like coaching. So that's that's my question. Thanks so much.

1859
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I should call it, Lucas.

1860
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 3: I think so much of this is going to be

1861
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 3: determined by how how much you win. It's going to

1862
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: come down to that and being in winnable games, not

1863
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: this one particularly, but being in winnable games and closing

1864
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 3: out those winnable.

1865
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: Two things you want being competitive, yes, and then in

1866
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: the competitive games, how do you do in those close games?

1867
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: Exactly right?

1868
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 3: And I mean I want to say this game was

1869
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: competitive but the score doesn't indicate that it was. And

1870
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 3: in the second half you didn't really feel like the

1871
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: Giants ever had a chance.

1872
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 2: To win or come back in this game. And so

1873
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: three score game and beginning of the fourth place, Yeah,

1874
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: you're right. So I mean it wasn't competitive, but it

1875
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: could have been. They could have been.

1876
01:22:59,439 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 4: And so.

1877
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 3: In the moment in the second half, you're saying, all right,

1878
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 3: giants are just getting blown out here, doesn't this doesn't

1879
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 3: really matter. But there are moments in this game where

1880
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 3: they could have made it close. They could if they

1881
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: just execute. They catch balls, they make tackles, they do

1882
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 3: the fundamentals really well. And this is why you started

1883
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 3: to look at the individual efforts because why aren't why

1884
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 3: isn't the big picture happening, because a lot of little

1885
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: individual moments aren't happening.

1886
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: Because this is a weight class game, right, we talk

1887
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: about this, right, And this is why it's so frustrating, Paul.

1888
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: The Niners, with all their injuries, were in the Giants

1889
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 2: weight class. They were middleweights.

1890
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: They were in the Giants weight class. Just look at

1891
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: what Vegas had as the number before this game. It's

1892
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: not a big spread. They were in the weight class

1893
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: and it didn't look like by the way the game

1894
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: went that they were in the same weight class.

1895
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: It is what you don't want to say.

1896
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 26: The Niners controlled the tempo and the game thlow basically throughout,

1897
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 26: but especially in the second half. I want to give

1898
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 26: you a stat here. First drive of the Giants ten plays,

1899
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 26: sixty four yards. Johnson catches the fifteen yard touchdown pass.

1900
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 26: It was the only play of the drive that was

1901
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 26: more than ten yards. But they were effective in moving

1902
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 26: the ball down the field.

1903
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: They ran it well, and they schemed up a lot

1904
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: of short passes. Well okay.

1905
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 26: On their next five possessions, john they totaled thirty four

1906
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 26: yards and one first down, right, Okay. So this isn't

1907
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 26: just the defense right not filling the holes. It's not

1908
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,520
Speaker 26: just the defense missing tackles. It's also the offense absolutely

1909
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 26: running in much and not getting anything done.

1910
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: And against the Niner defense that showed last week against

1911
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: a Texans team that is not a high powered offense

1912
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: that they could not start exactly.

1913
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 26: And so that's a big problem because it's not just

1914
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 26: that one side of the ball was scuffling.

1915
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: Both sides of the ball did not do enough. All right,

1916
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: let's take a time out, we'll come back.

1917
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: Take a call or two, and we'll lead you right

1918
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: with the Nets basketball at five fifty right.

1919
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: Here on the fan.

1920
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,639
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1921
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:01,120
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1922
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,920
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1923
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,400
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1924
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1926
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1927
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1928
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: Schmelk Tiki, Paulie.

1929
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 1: Got a few minutes to go here before Nets basketball

1930
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: comes your way at five point fifty right here on

1931
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Speaker 1: the fan. Guys, the Bears next week in Chicago. They've

1932
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: been an up and down team. Two Caleb Williams are

1933
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Kind of embodies what they've been this year.

1934
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it looks spectacular and sometimes it does not look

1935
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 1: good at all.

1936
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 2: Tiki, Yeah it doesn't and so much so.

1937
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 3: This is on the their their young quarterback, Caleb Williams,

1938
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: who today had an unbelievable, so talented two hundred and

1939
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 3: eighty yards and three touchdowns. He also rushed for fifty

1940
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 3: three yards, And that's what that's what it's challenging when

1941
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: you have a mobile quarterback but also a guy who

1942
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 3: has the potential to be a top ten quarterback in

1943
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: the league, and so containing him defensetively. This is for

1944
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 3: the Giants, it's gonna be the big challenge, especially with

1945
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 3: the secondary that's young, inexperience, obviously beat up because of

1946
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: the guys that aren't that aren't playing, and so it's

1947
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 3: going on the road against a Bears team that's they're

1948
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 3: not great again. You talk about the forty nine ers

1949
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 3: being in the Giants whitecrass weight class. The Bears are

1950
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 3: earned the Giant white class.

1951
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but it's just gonna be a matter of who

1952
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 4: executes the best and can you create mistakes for for

1953
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 4: Caleb who was only in a second year.

1954
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,799
Speaker 26: Do they even need to throw the ball with Williams?

1955
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 26: Why don't they just run it like what the Niners

1956
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 26: did to the Giants today?

1957
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: Well, did you see what mon guy did on the

1958
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: ground in this game? Time six for one, seventy six

1959
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: from the Rutgers running back and DeAndre Swift might be

1960
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: back next week.

1961
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: You might have two running backs that can run so

1962
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 2: extremely well. So does Williams even have to put the

1963
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: ball up times? Probably not.

1964
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: And Rome Dunes was a little banged up going into

1965
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: that game. I don't know if he finished the game.

1966
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,919
Speaker 1: He had three targets for no yards and no receiving,

1967
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: so remember he was he always on the injury report

1968
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: getting into that game, so I don't know how much

1969
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: he played. Snap wise, I don't have that number in

1970
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: front of me yet, but a very talented pass catching

1971
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 1: group with their guys.

1972
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, they put up forty seven points

1973
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 3: in this game. It is the big The Bengals defense

1974
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 3: is terrible. They continually do this, get up to thirty

1975
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 3: five forty something points and lose football games. So again,

1976
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: they're just not a winning a team right now. And

1977
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: the Giants have an opportunity to go on the road

1978
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 3: and get a win. But it's only gonna happen if

1979
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 3: they play error free football, and it's hard to do

1980
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 3: when you have a young team, but it's necessary if

1981
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: this team wants to keep moving, try to move forward

1982
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 3: from some of these bad losses they've had over the

1983
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 3: last three weeks.

1984
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: Giants have not won on the road yet this year, Paul, No,

1985
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: they have not.

1986
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 26: And by the way, eleven carries for thirty eight yards

1987
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 26: on the ground in the first half today when they

1988
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,520
Speaker 26: had a chance to try to make this game competitive

1989
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 26: and they just didn't get any ground game going at all.

1990
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 26: They did on the first drive a little bit with Singletary,

1991
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 26: but again the first drive is almost like, do we

1992
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 26: consider that an operation?

1993
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: Well, because after that first drive, how competitive was the game? Yeah,

1994
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 2: it becomes it's scripted.

1995
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 4: So the first drive, you know, you know exactly you've

1996
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 4: practic did all week, you know exactly what to do,

1997
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 4: you know exactly what the situation.

1998
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: Is likely to be. And they've been good at that

1999
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 2: only here, but they've been great at it. Your touchdowns

2000
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: in the last six games. Opening right, you get.

2001
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 3: Into the red area, you feel confident that they're gonna

2002
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 3: find a way to score a touchdown.

2003
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,560
Speaker 2: It's what happens next where this Giant.

2004
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 3: Team has been confounded and been frustrating for all of

2005
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: us to watch, including I think them, even though sometimes

2006
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 3: they don't they're not expressing it well.

2007
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 26: That play that whole series after they get the turn

2008
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 26: over at the end of the second quarter, that's a

2009
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 26: microcosm of what most of the Giants offensive production was.

2010
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: You're in golden field position. You've gotta get points there.

2011
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: You've got to at least get a yard and you're

2012
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna look at the fun of yarder total. It's gonna

2013
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: look okay. But a lot of that is two drives

2014
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: at the end of the game when you're down three score.

2015
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna put.

2016
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: A whole lot. That's why I point to the first half.

2017
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: And I think there was a second segment. I made

2018
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: the bus we saw it on the defense because obviously

2019
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: that was bad. And then I made the point though

2020
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: you have five drives in the first half where they

2021
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: give you absolutely nothing.

2022
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: Really nice goal line stand there by the bill.

2023
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Now it's they've took the game off twenty one thirteen

2024
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: twenty one thirteen bills now in that big four o'clock game. So, guys,

2025
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: and we didn't talk about the Bears defense. They've been

2026
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 1: vulnerable this year. Yeah, they have been vulnerable.

2027
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 2: The Giant should be able to move the ball on

2028
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: them a little bit.

2029
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 3: You hope, so and again, but to me, what the

2030
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 3: Giants do offensively is all about them. It's not necessarily

2031
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 3: about the defense and what scheme's gonna get thrown.

2032
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: What do you mean? May I trust Jackson Dart to

2033
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: figure it out? He doesn't.

2034
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: We've talked about this ever since he became the starter.

2035
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 3: He's not panicked in the pocket. He's not making stupid mistakes,

2036
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 3: even though the interception in Denver was.

2037
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 2: A bad one.

2038
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's just gonna be about them executing,

2039
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 3: catching the ball, making the blocks, making some plays happen downfield,

2040
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 3: which is hard to do when Wando Robinson is your

2041
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 3: only consistent ball catcher on this team.

2042
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,519
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2043
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