1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two. On this Tuesday, Dan and the 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Dan n S Dan Patrick Show will preview tonight's Game six. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: We'll be joined by John Barry of the Mother's Ship. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: He's on the call on ESPN Radio. He'll join us. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Coming up a little bit. We'll get some of the 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: back room dealings on Peyton Manning and Eli Manning doing 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: a Monday night football game cast Suns Bucks tonight Game 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: six at nine Eastern. Phone calls are welcome eight seven 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: seven three DP Show email address DP and Dan Patrick 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: dot Com Twitter handle at dp's show. Poll question changed 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: mid hour because of the Aaron Rodgers news Adam Schefter tweeting. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: This offseason, the Packers offered Aaron Rodgers a two year 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: contract extension that would have tied him to Green Bay 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: for five more seasons and made him the highest paid 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: quarterback slash player in football. Rodgers declined the offer and 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: then cheft He ends his tweet that it's proof it's 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: not about money. So we have a new poll question, 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and it has to do with Aaron Rodgers as of today, 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: do you think Aaron Rodgers holds out then plays for 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: the Packers, Rogers reports to camp on time, Rogers gets traded. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Fritzie update the poll results. Since mccluvin is on vacation, 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: fifty six percent say Rogers holds out then plays for 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: the Packers this season. Thirty four percent Rogers reports to 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: camp on time, and then you've got the little under 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: ten percent Rogers gets treated. Yeah. I'm just trying to 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: figure out the strategy here from both sides. If the 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Packers want to go, hey, we got blinders on, nothing 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: to see here, Aaron's going to show up. He's got 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: a contract and you've got a signing bonus, and we 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: expect him to be in camp. If not, he's going 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: to get fined. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk yesterday said, 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Night thinks that Rodgers shows up and knows that he's 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: going to be a distraction, therefore the Packers trade him. Okay, 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: but I still go back and I add logic, and 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I know that's the wrong thing to do in this 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: business where you just go, okay, let me try to 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: figure this out. There's a lot of emotion attached to this. 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's logic, but there's emotion. But 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: if you draft Jordan love. Then it gets emotional. Farren Rodgers, Oh, okay, 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: I see what you did. Like eventually you get over 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: things most people. It took me about ten years to 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: get over some grudges at ESPN. But you know I 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: did get over it, just about ten years and Rogers 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: has had two years to get over this. But what 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: does he want? That's all I want to know. What 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: do you want? You want out? I would have said 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: I wanted out a long time ago. Are you willing 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: to stay? But you want the GM fired? No? He 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: never said okay, so what do you want? And then 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: if you're the Packers, you gave him an extension. He 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: was going to be the highest paid quarterback. Why is 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: this information coming out? Now? That's what I'm curious about. 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: This is virtual information that came out. Now, why did 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: the information come out on Draft night about Aaron Rodgers 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: with Adam Schefter? But there was nothing imminent, it was 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: just it came out and Chefty was breathless when he 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: was telling you about it. You thought Aaron Rodgers going 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: to be traded on Draft night? Now you have this. 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Why is this contract? Why are these details coming out now? 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess they didn't have this contract discussion a 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. From what I'm told, this is 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: a while ago they had contract talks. But the information 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: is out and we'll find out next week if Aaron 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers shows up on time. Yes, PAULI, I guess That's 66 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: the one thing I would don't understand is that if 67 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers people are trying to paint the Packers and 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: their management as bad guys, Packers fans aren't going to 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: bail on the Packers. They may get a little salty 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: with a general manager here or there, but that's it. 71 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: They're in for life on the Packers. They're not in 72 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: for life on certain players. You know the sentiment, it seems, 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: And I I don't live in Milwaukee or Green Bay. 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: It seems like the sentiment the past six months has 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: shifted against Aaron Rodgers locally, and maybe that's why when 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: this comes out, does it portray Rogers in a different light. 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: But I don't even know how important it is. Hey, 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm not the bad guy here, okay, but it feels 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: like you're the bad guy because you're kind of holding 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: everybody in limbo And can we make you happier? Yeah? Seon, 81 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: But it seems like, I mean, fans are in on 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: players for a whole lifetime. I mean, like Walter Payton. 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: If the Bears have kicked Walter Payton to the curb 84 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: a couple of years early, be like, what the hell 85 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: did you do that? To sweetness for it? Yeah, point, 86 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: there is a comparison. He mentioned Walter Payton. It's a 87 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: much more lower level. But Walter Payton's last year with 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: the Bears, they drafted a running back late in the 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: first round, and that was seen as like an affront 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: to the image of Walter Payton, even though he was 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: definitely on the decline of his career. But I remember 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: when they drafted him, people in Scarlott, what are you doing? 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: That's the last thing we need is a running back. 94 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: But it was as smartest say, they got Neil Anderson 95 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: out of Florida. He end up being a very nice 96 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: player for them, but he was in the shadow of 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Walter Payton, like Jordan loves. But don't you think Aaron 98 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers has proven his point If your point is to 99 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: point out the front office and the inaptitude of the 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: front office, which I would argue, I think the front 101 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: office has done a pretty good job now you can 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: say you drafted a quarterback that a lot of people 103 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a first round grade on. Yes, you trade 104 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: it up to get him. Yes, you were betting against 105 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers who had two subpar seasons prior to an 106 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: MVP season. But they have drafted a lot of guys 107 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: who are really good, and that's a really good team, 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: and you would be hard pressed to go to another 109 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: team given what they might have to give up to 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: get you that would improve your chances of going to 111 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. And they're not going to trade him 112 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: within the NFC. You're going to go to the AFC, 113 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: and man, there are some great AFC teams right now. 114 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: Really tough sledding for him. Yes, it feels like Aaron 115 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mind pointing it out a little more. I guess 116 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: I've highlighted the ineptitude here, But how about we just 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: do a little longer. So that's the poll question. If 118 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: you want to jump in eight seven seven three d 119 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: P Show email address dp at dan Patrick dot com, 120 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Twitter handle it DP show. We got into not a 121 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: heated discussion, but just a discussion last night the Mets 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: announcer Gary Cohen during the game against the Reds. They 123 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: pointed out the Skyline Chili or gold Star Chilling, and 124 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: this is a staple of Cincinnati, been there for decades 125 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: and they have, you know, quite a few of these 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: these restaurants, and Gary Cohen basically trashed the chili in Cincinnati. 127 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: This is one of the This is the second most 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: popular trending topic this morning, believe it or not. Number 129 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: one is Jeff Bezos going up for ten minutes into 130 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: outer space and coming back down. And number number three 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: is Jordan Love I think, but I mean crazy. But 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: Fritzie did reach out to Gary Cohen of the New 133 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: York Mets, So I just want to know if Gary 134 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: is going to be as honest about the Mets as 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: he was about gold Star Chilly. Yes, point, can you 136 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: be an objective journalist during this interview? I will try. 137 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I will. I will mention upfront I'm from Cincinnati, but 138 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: I will try to be a journalist. ESPN announced on 139 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Monday Peyton and Eli Manning will host an alternate telecast 140 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: Monday Night football ten games in each of the next 141 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: three seasons. The trend towards alternate broadcast has been growing 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: steadily over the last couple of years, but ESPN may 143 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: have hit the jackpot the entire industry who has been 144 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: waiting for Peyton to jump into the booth. Now he 145 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: gets to do it on his own terms. He gets 146 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: his brother in there, who's sneaky, funny and one of 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the few people who can jab Peyton and that relationship 148 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: back and forth. But you know, it's an interesting choice 149 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: if you want Peyton and Eli and a guest booth host. 150 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what that does for the Mothership's main 151 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: broadcast with Steve Levy and Lewis Red and Brian Greasy. 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: But let me bring in the guy who has all 153 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: the answers. The great sports business columnists for The New 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: York Post, Andrew Marshawn, all right, explain the logic behind 155 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: this deal. Andrew, Well, number one, ESPN has been trying 156 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: to get Payton Manning forever and I called them the 157 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: White Whale, you know, Boby Dick style, trying to get 158 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Peyton to do Monday night football. He's not wanted to 159 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: go into the booth, you know, He's made that pretty 160 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: apparent no matter what they've offered. So this was a 161 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: way to get him into the booth. He brings Eli 162 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: with them. The l at a host, and so if 163 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: you've gonna further that relationship that ESPN has with Peyton, 164 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: they already do Peyton's Places, which from where I'm told, 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: is one of the more successful ESPN Plus programs. They've 166 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: made others with Dave Dartiez and Eli and have you 167 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: want back to do other sports, and that will probably 168 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: add to that as well. So now they increase that relationship, 169 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: they get the great headline, and now now they got 170 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: to make it a good show. Does it bastardize though? 171 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: The Monday night football broadcast. Well, look, I think on 172 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: the surface it's not a good day for Steve Leavey, 173 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Brian Greef and Lewis Riddicks are the main team. But 174 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: they've really been kind of viewed as the second um. 175 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: But they haven't really they kind of got the job 176 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: with the kind of um, you know, just here, you 177 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: guys take it. They tried to get you know, um 178 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning last year UM, and then they tried to 179 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: get others. They're gonna go out. They went hard after 180 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Tony Romo and instead they've they sort of they were 181 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: a second choice. So in that regard, yeah, it's not 182 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: great for them, but Uh, but they do. Uh. I 183 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: do think there's a way where if depending how Peyton 184 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: and Eli do, how well they do that, it could 185 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: it could shine well on Stephen Company. Who are they 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: going to add as are they going to have an 187 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: actual play by play voice or a host of this? Yeah, 188 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a host, not a play by play guy. So, um, 189 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: are you available there? Okay, So I will will set 190 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: up that negotiation. Okay, they say, well, I know you 191 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: have a good relationship with the espn UM and so 192 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: uh the but they do need somebody talk. Honestly, there's 193 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: someone like you. Um, you know, they had some people 194 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: in house. I could see SVP, I could see a 195 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: young guy like Ryan Ruco. Uh, they could go outside. 196 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I know. Uh, you think the same way I do 197 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: about Eye and Eagle And I don't know if he 198 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: signed up with TVs, But you need someone. Look, if 199 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: this is gonna be successful, it's gonna be probably more 200 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: about who that third person is, that host to make 201 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: it all work. Then it will be about Peyton and Eli. 202 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton and Eli are gonna see things on 203 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: the field. They're gonna be someone, you know, probably pretty entertaining, 204 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: but you know, they are. You know how hid is 205 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: the bar and the other thing about this type of show. 206 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: You gonna have to do it well, you produce it 207 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: as well. It's not it sounds like, oh, you just 208 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: put Peyton and Eli out there. Um, you talked for 209 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: three hours. You gotta have some plans. You can't just 210 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: be willy nilly. And I know they'll probably get a 211 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: big name guests and that could be interesting, but but 212 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: you really have to produce this well. In the host 213 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: you have to get anything right. It's not it's not 214 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: to me. It's not a slam dunk. I mean, I 215 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: think it's great for ESPN that they were able to 216 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: pull this off, but for it to be successful is 217 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: not a slam dunk. Is Aaron Rodgers in play for 218 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: any of the networks if he decides that he's gonna 219 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: retire or sit out, whatever his game plan is. I mean, 220 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: I think they might make a call. I don't really 221 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: see it. He doesn't strike me as that type of 222 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: guy that wants to do that, especially if he was 223 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: just out of football for maybe a year, and I 224 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: guess if he retired and said that's it, that doesn't 225 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: seem to be the game plan. Although I have no 226 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: inside info on that. I just don't. He doesn't strike 227 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: me as the guy at the end up in the 228 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: booth um, you know, but they always make the call. 229 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Uh you know, if you know when they can, they 230 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: can try to upgrade because you know, for whatever reason, 231 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: this is the broadcasting in the NFL. Obviously it's the 232 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: most popular programming on TV. But the broadcaster, the analyst, 233 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, those are sought after job and starting with 234 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Romot one hundred and eighty million for ten, those jobs 235 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: pay well. Andrew, great to talk to you again, Great 236 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: work on this, Thanks for joining us. Thanks that's Andrew Marshawn, 237 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: New York Post sports business columnist. I'm glad he's throwing 238 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: my hat into the ring here to maybe host this 239 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: on on Monday nine. I haven't been approached yet, but 240 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: if approach, this is when I know I'm not going 241 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: to get it, then I take my name out of 242 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: Do you want to announce it? You're already out of 243 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: the running. Are you want to announce that? Source as 244 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: close you say you're interested, I'm gonna let chef you 245 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: break this news. I'm gonna say it's not about the money. 246 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: Where's Jay Glazer? Jay? Glazer truly has an off season, 247 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, the because when you're a information an insider, 248 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: you get no time off. I mean, Glazer truly takes 249 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: you know he has an off season because he'll break 250 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: like four or five stories during the season for Fox 251 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: and you'll go, yep, that's Jay Glazer. But Chefty is 252 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: on call. Chefty broke the Andrew Lux story while he 253 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: was at a wedding. I mean imagine that He's like, 254 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm at a wedding and I'm going to break the 255 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Lux story that he's going to retire. All Right, 256 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: we'll get some phone calls in here, and then we'll 257 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: get to John Barry. He'll preview Game six tonight in Milwaukee. Yes, point, 258 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: we have a little text chain at work that we 259 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: discussed sports when the Chefter news broke. I remember, we 260 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: all looked at it on Twitter on social media and 261 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: we're like, are we being punked? This can't be real. 262 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Andrew luck is on a good team that's getting better. 263 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: We thought he was finally healthy and he's retiring. Nobody 264 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: of us five believed it when we're sending it around 265 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: because I kept thinking, Okay, he finally got an offensive line. 266 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: He got some weapons there, got a running game, maybe 267 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: not great receivers, and what was it, three or four 268 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: weeks till the start of season, and he decides that 269 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: and he's at the game when the announcement happens. Chefty 270 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: broke the news in the fourth quarter, and Andrew Luck 271 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: had to leave because he was getting booed. Fans had 272 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: their phones out and all of a sudden, you know, 273 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: poor Andrew Luck, because they tried to hold it. They 274 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: were gonna have a press conference the next day. Wanted 275 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: family to come in for it. And Chefty broke the news. Yes, 276 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: he dude's just walking around down there on the field. 277 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Crap? I don't have a Twitter, I 278 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: got my Space. Love it. Let's stick with it, all right. 279 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: Who's got the pressure on them tonight? The player who 280 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: has the most pressure, We'll talk to John Barry. You'll 281 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: join us on loan from the Mothership. Your phone calls 282 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: is well, it's fifteen after the hour here on the 283 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. 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One of 310 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: my favorite basketball analyst, John Barry, ESPN Radio, NBA analysts, 311 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: former NBA player. He's been on the call throughout the 312 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: NBA Finals for ESPN Radio, and he'll be on the 313 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: call tonight nine Eastern Game six tipping off in Milwaukee. John, 314 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Give me the player who has 315 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: the most pressure on them tonight? Well, everybody. I mean 316 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: it's a knockout game, so everybody on the Sun's obviously. 317 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know everybody talks about Chris Paul and 318 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: it's this legacy. I don't get caught up in that. 319 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, does it really change what kind of player 320 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: Chris Paul is going to be looked at if he 321 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: wins or loses this NBA Final in ten years? I think, so? 322 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: Why a Hall of famer regardless, what's the difference. Well, 323 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: I think he moves up, though, John, if he wins. 324 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: I've heard this, Well, Nash never won and Stockton never won. 325 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: You know, then he leaped frogs them, and then this 326 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: is what analysts tell me. Do I think that Chris 327 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Paul is better than John Stockton, I don't. Do I 328 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: think he's better than Steve Nash. I don't. Does he 329 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: belong to be in the top ten? Sure? But is 330 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: he a top five because he wins? He's not better 331 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: than Jason Kidd in my opinion? Would so winning a 332 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: championship makes you better than that? Well, I think that's 333 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: how people validate greatness. You know, John Elway needed to 334 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: win super Bowls to now be considered one of the 335 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. Tom Brady's the greatest because he has all 336 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. Is he more talented than Aaron Rodgers 337 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: or John Elway? No? But if Tim Duncan didn't have 338 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: any championships, he'd not be a top fifteen player, top 339 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: twenty player. Maybe not. But I just he's going to 340 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: be the same player to me whether this happens or not. 341 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not putting this series on squarely on his shoulders. 342 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: He played great in the first two games, not so 343 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: great the last three, so it's not on him. Yes, 344 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: he's had some blunders in his past in big playoff games, 345 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: but This certainly is in the series where it's on 346 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Chris Paul to win or lose. I think there's a 347 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on all the Phoenix Suns. But I 348 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: think if you're the Bucks, you gotta win tonight. You 349 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: did win in Phoenix, but this feels like a coronation tonight. 350 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna be sixty thousand people outside that building tonight, John, 351 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: I understand, plus the four of us on the radio 352 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: that have to walk through that if they win. So 353 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: I do typically cheer for the road team to closed 354 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: out series. It makes it a nice easy walk home. No, 355 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: I think you're right. You don't want to go back 356 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Game seven in Phoenix, no way. And look, Phoenix could 357 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: easily be up in this series. I thought Game four 358 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: they completely gave away with their turnovers. They should have 359 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: won that game. They outplayed Milwaukee and so they could 360 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: have gone home and had a close out game in 361 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: Game five. That's not the case. Obviously, they got off 362 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: to a great start in Game five and the game 363 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: completely flipped Milwaukee had they Montie Williams told me yesterday, 364 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the eighth best shooting game in thirteen hundred and forty 365 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: five playoff games, the eighth best in the history. Oh, 366 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's eighth best. Yeah, I mean they were. 367 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: So they started that game nine to twenty one. They 368 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: went thirty two for forty five and the second and 369 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: third quarter for seventy nine points. It was amazing, and 370 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: then Phoenix almost comes back and wins. But I don't 371 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: think Phoenix is a fractured team that. I think there's 372 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: still a confident group. And if they were to pull 373 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: this off tonight, I would say that they would win 374 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: the NBA Championship. They would win Game seven at home. 375 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Talking to John Barry, He'll be on the call game 376 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: six tonight ESPN Radio tip off at nine Eastern. I 377 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: was talking to Reggie Miller yesterday and we were talking 378 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: about Shack. When the Pacers played the Lakers in the 379 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: NBA Finals in two thousand, he shot eighteen of thirty 380 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: nine from the free throw line in the whole series 381 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: No One, Game one game Shack was eighteen of thirty 382 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: nine in Game two and they won. Like, imagine if 383 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: the Greek freak did that, John, like, we go, man, 384 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: he went one for ten and two air balls. Shack 385 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: went eighteen of thirty nine. Wow, and LA still won 386 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, Yeah, well, so are you getting at 387 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Maybe you try that with you honest tonight put him 388 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: on the line. Yes, yeah, Well now he is at 389 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: home where he's probably more comfortable. I don't know the 390 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: stats per se on his home road splits on what 391 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: he shoots. Free throw wise, he had gotten better and 392 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: obviously not so good in the last game. I believe 393 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: four for ten, but it was a great miss because 394 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: they got the offensive remount and Chris Middleton made the 395 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: free throw to put it out of reach. But uh yeah, 396 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, is Monty william saving this 397 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: to possibly do it because they haven't done it yet. 398 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's a ployee if if it gets down 399 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: to a tight ball game here, you know, but it's 400 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: got to be after two minutes obviously, So I don't know. 401 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: I doubt that we see Montie Williams do that. And 402 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to free throw shooting, and I've talked 403 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: to former players and he said, look, if you could 404 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: shoot it underhand like your father famously did, and you 405 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: can make it, let's say seventy seven percent of your 406 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: free throws and you're maybe a fifty percent free throw. 407 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Like if you said to Jannis, try this and you 408 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: and you go eighty percent? Would players be more likely 409 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: to do what your dad did? And your dad was 410 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time? Like, is it 411 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: easy to teach that style of free throw shooting? I 412 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: think he could teach guys with the big hands. I 413 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: think it's an advantage to do, you know. I never 414 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: really messed around with it, but I think if you 415 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: have really big hands, and it's kind of a risk 416 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: cock thing where it's it's not hard to do. But 417 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that guys would do it. I mean 418 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: I played with Shack you know, in what ninety seven 419 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and I used to joke about it. 420 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not looking like a sissy like that. 421 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not doing that's embarrassing. I'm like, I go, 422 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: all right, Well, what's more embarrassing eighteen for thirty nine 423 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: from the free throw line in the game or doing that? Like, 424 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you care enough, I certainly would hope, my, my, 425 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: if I coached the guy, I'd hope you'd want to 426 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: eighty percent as opposed to fifty percent, regardless if you 427 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: had to put a pink tutu on at the free 428 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: throw line. If it went in do it? Did Shaq 429 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: practice free throws? I shot with him every day. Every 430 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: day we went into free throw A breakdown of free throws. 431 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: I was with him seventeen out of twenty, eighteen out 432 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: of twenty every time, every time, and then what happens. 433 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people don't like to be at 434 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: that line. I think maybe fatigue. It plays a factor. 435 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: If you're in the game, who knows. I mean, you're 436 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: the center of attention. I know guys love to be 437 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: the center of attention in certain areas, but maybe not 438 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: standing on a free throw line when everybody's just staring 439 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: at you. What's the best conversation you ever had during 440 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: a free throw with the shooter or with another guy, 441 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: another guy, I like the guy with like first base, 442 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: when these guys hits and go over there and stay, 443 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I don't know. I mean, it would usually 444 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: pertain to something that was going on in the game. 445 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was another like, you know, did people 446 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: say stuff to you at when you were at the line. No, 447 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like, well you were pretty good free throw shooter. 448 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: No I didn't, it didn't Yeah, No, I mean, yeah, guys, 449 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: we might say something Hey, we need this, will give 450 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: us this one? Yeah? We know who gives this one? 451 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, It's like, yeah, sure I will three points, man, 452 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not giving in if U Is there any chance 453 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: Chris Middleton gets factored into the MVP if the Bucks win? Yeah? 454 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I was, I was wondering about 455 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: that yesterday, like if Middleton goes big tonight and Jannie 456 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: is you know, okay, what if they do? I mean, 457 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: I know Jannie's numbers are better, uh, but you know, 458 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: quite honestly, Chris Middleton's the go to guy of the 459 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks. Now. I know Drew Holiday came up big 460 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: in the last ball game, but when they need baskets, Middleton. 461 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean Middleton made shots in that last game, step 462 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: back three right in front of their bench. He and 463 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: I did the Eastern Finals as well. He had a 464 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: twenty three point quarter, a twenty point quarter. I mean, 465 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: when this value gets rolling, he's awfully difficult to stop. 466 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: You know, Typically they always go with the big name guy, right, 467 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: so you think you would think you honest gets it. 468 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: But Middleton's been huge. And then Drew Holliday to bounce 469 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: back after a four for twenty game four and play 470 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: the way he did man and he defensively he is 471 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: a monster. I mean he's given Chris Paul fitz but 472 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: you have the Booker situation and I don't know if 473 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: it's too much of a good thing John where he's 474 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna get thirty five or forty, but is that good 475 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: for his team, as strange as that may sound. Well, 476 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: two straight games over forty and he's lost in both. Yeah, 477 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: certainly not his doing, but what Milwaukee's doing. And Mike 478 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: Bunoser takes a lot of heat for not being a 479 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: guy that adjust and does different things during the game. 480 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: I think he's done a great job. Is they're switching now, 481 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: is causing Phoenix to play one on one basketball, and 482 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: it's either Chris Paul or Devin Booker playing one on one. 483 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: Their assist numbers way down, their passes per possession way down, 484 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: and the shot making has been incredible. What Devin book 485 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: the shots that he's making to get his numbers, they're content. 486 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean I don't remember many uncontested shots he gets. 487 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: He is working extremely hard and making unbelievable shots. So 488 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: if your Phoenix, somehow they still shoot fifty for five 489 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: percent in the last game. They still go thirteen for 490 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: nineteen from three. But you can't expect to play one 491 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: on one basketball and make the kind of shot you're 492 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: making on a consistent basis. So tonight you've got to 493 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: get some ball movement, and Phoenix has not moved the ball. 494 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: And credit Milwaukee from making them a one on one team, 495 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: and credit Devin Booker for doing what he's doing. But 496 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: if they continue to play one on one and don't 497 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: get mckel bridges and eight and other guys Crowder involved, 498 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they can win. He's John Barry, ESPN Radio, 499 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: NBA analysts. You were on the Lakers in nineteen ninety eight. 500 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: You don't like that. I don't know. I mean I 501 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: was on eight different team. I remember years difficult. Well, well, no, 502 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: you guys got swept by Utah that year. Yeah, we did. 503 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: We did in the Western Final. And Kobe was what 504 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen years of made Yeah, second year in the league, 505 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: and he took the last shot, didn't he No, that 506 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: was before that was his rookie year. That was his 507 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: rookie year. But what he did, he didn't. He didn't 508 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: play much. I mean Eddie Jones was the two guard 509 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: and Kobe played less than twenty minutes a game in 510 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: that second year. But did you see sort of what 511 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: could be with or when did you see that? Every 512 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: day in practice when it was game seven? No, like 513 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: we get ready to scrimmage, right, We're on the second team, 514 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: and he wanted to. Uh, he was going after Eddie 515 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: Jones every day to show coach Del Harris like, no, 516 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: this is my job. I don't know why this guy started. 517 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: And like literally every day was game seven when we 518 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: started scrimmageing. I mean, the guy was as driven as 519 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: any guy I've ever known, Like Michael Jordan, He's he's 520 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: as close and John Smoltz are the three most competitive 521 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: guys that I've ever met. John smolt John Smolts as 522 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: competitive as anybody I've ever met. Well, you you played 523 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: against Kobe and you played against Jordan's. You've just played 524 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: golf with John Smolts, right, right. But I'm just saying 525 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: he's I just he'll do some gambling and will gamble 526 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: on anything, and he's just y'all putting him there, except 527 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: for time last week when he choked down down the 528 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: stretch there. Oh sorry, Johnny, that's pretty good though, with 529 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, Kobe, but I'm sure that I don't. Well, 530 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: what was Eddie Jones, like, Like, when does he know 531 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: his days are numbered when he's seeing this that Kobe's 532 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: going after him? I don't know, No, because Eddie was 533 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: still still pretty young, and I think he went to 534 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: Miami after that and had some All Star seasons. So no, 535 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: he now he accepted the challenge. But yeah, everybody, everybody 536 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of knew, like, did this kid right here, Oh 537 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: my gosh, when he arrives, it's going to be Hello 538 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: world like Tiger right. Did Shack know it? Shack knew it, 539 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: of course, because I just wonder about that ego, you 540 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: know those egos, and I know it wasn't there yet 541 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: because Kobe hadn't had success. But could you feel like, 542 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, there's only one king on the throne here? 543 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: You know? No, because I didn't think that Kobe would care. 544 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: He just wanted to play and that's all he wanted, 545 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: and that's all he did. Like literally, he wouldn't talk 546 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: on our planes. He would I believe he wrote a 547 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: lot of lyrics of rap music and he would not. 548 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: He wouldn't. He wouldn't join in our reindeer games of 549 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: cards and all that stuff. Like he would sit by 550 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: himself right whatever he was doing. He would watch Michael 551 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: Jordan interviews. He would never go out in the city 552 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: we went to. You would never see him. He'd be 553 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: at practice and we'd play for one on one after 554 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: practice and if I didn't say I'm leaving, he would 555 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: never leave the gym. No, he wouldn't like I had 556 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: to say, like I'm out of here, man Jesus. But 557 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: it's like we're two hours after practice. He would never leave. Really, 558 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: so he's watching Michael Jordan interviews. He wanted to be 559 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: him more than anything in the world and be better. 560 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: He got close. Yeah, he's yeah that that's when we 561 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: And he wasn't afraid to say that he wants to 562 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: be Michael Jordan, whereas Lebron is not Michael Jordan. But 563 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: Kobe said, look, I want it. I'm going after you. 564 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: You wear twenty three. I'm wearing twenty four like I I. 565 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: But I loved that that he embraced it. He didn't. 566 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: He didn't back because a lot of guys have shied 567 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: away from it. Where Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, Hey, they're 568 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: the next Michael Jordan. Kobe's like Hey, I'm the next 569 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and people are like, come on, you're nineteen 570 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: year you know, easy here, And then all of a 571 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: sudden we realized he had somebody that he had footsteps 572 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: to follow. He wasn't afraid of that. Yeah, he loved 573 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: the comparison. I mean, that's all he wanted. I mean 574 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: I remember the first time that well, we played Chicago, 575 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: when we played him twice, obviously being in the West, 576 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: and that game at Chicago, I mean, this kid was 577 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: bouncing off the walls before he got out there. And 578 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: you know the problem was, we got our we got 579 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: our butts handed to us, so he didn't get to 580 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: match up against Michael very much. But man, the guy 581 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: played like it was Game seven when we were in 582 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: there down twenty five. I mean he was something. Did 583 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Shack run onto the court naked at any point during 584 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: a practice while you're with the Lakers. He did not. No, 585 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: I never saw that, thankfully. Now, okay, because I some 586 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: of his teammates say that he was famous for doing that. 587 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: Like he'd go out there in just his socks and 588 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: then he would hug people. I mean, that guy is 589 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: great too. It's amazing. Those two guys you know that 590 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: that happened because Shaq is as good a guy as 591 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: you ever meet. He's just the biggest kid in the world. 592 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: Complete opposites though, right, totally, totally. Yeah, yeah, have fun tonight. 593 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: And so you're rooting for the Suns just so you 594 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: can get out of the building safely. That's basically it. Yes, okay, 595 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: but one of the eight or nine teams you played 596 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: for was Milwaukee, Yes, thirty almost thirty years ago. Now 597 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: they still remember you. A few people have, Yeah, I do. 598 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Milwaukee's it's great. You should wear your 599 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: jersey tonight. You know. I have the it's the ugliest 600 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: green remember the all shades of green yellow side. Yeah, 601 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: that's what we were. Yeah, awful, the worst. I have 602 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: a Terry Cummings autographed jersey from that year, from that 603 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: when you guys had those jerseys. So yeah, Terry col Yeah, 604 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: have fun tonight. Always great to talk to you. Safe 605 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: travels there, John. Thanks, that's John Barry of the Mothership 606 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: tonight at nine eastern. Those are great stories about Kobe 607 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: in your nineteen years of age. And hey, I'm not 608 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: getting into games, but I'm going to treat every practice 609 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: like it's Game seven and then watching Michael Jordan interviews 610 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: get mannerisms down, and he certainly did that. All right, Well, 611 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: take a break. Your phone calls are coming up. Next. 612 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to talk about Skyline and gold Star Chili. 613 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: We'll have that discussion next Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for 614 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 615 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 616 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 617 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 618 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. 619 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: The podcast is called All Ball. We usually talk all 620 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: basketball all the time, but it's more about the stories 621 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: about what made these people love their sport and all 622 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: the interesting interactions along the way. We talked to coaches, 623 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: we talked to players, We tell you stories. You download it, 624 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: you listen to it. I think you like it. Listen 625 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 1: to All Ball with Doug Gotlieb on the iHeartRadio app, 626 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, orherever you get your podcast. If you're watching 627 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: on Peacock, I'm holding up my Terry Cummings Milwaukee Bucks 628 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: jersey that I got. This is like nineteen eighties Milwaukee Bucks. 629 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: And I got the Terry Cumming signature there. Those are gorgeous. 630 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: We should get this aimed. And then I got Brad Lohaus, 631 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: who seven footer, good shooter. I think I'm the only 632 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: person in America with these these two Milwaukee Bucks jerseys, 633 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Terry Cummings and Brad Lohaus. No bigger Bucks fan than me. 634 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: I did pick them to go to the finals, but 635 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: I had them losing to the Lake. Do I get 636 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: credit for them if they win a championship? Do I 637 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: get extra credit that I picked them to go to 638 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: the finals to lose to the Lake. It's like Jeff 639 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: Bezos saying he was in space. You could say the 640 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: team you picked to be in the finals one, and 641 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: then maybe if you want to ask you, did you 642 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: pick on the win? Oh? Glaze past it? Yeah? See? 643 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: Or are you more correct? If the Suns come back 644 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: and beat the Bucks, You'll be like, yeah, I called it. 645 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: I called the Bucks losing in the finals. Then you're 646 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: actually more correct. You're right, You're right. You might want 647 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: them to lose in seven. We're big in Wisconsin and 648 00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Well, if I would have said to Bucks fans, 649 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you to the finals, but I can't 650 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: help you from there. But they have signed up for 651 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: that probably so given what's happened in previous postseasons. John 652 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: Barry is great. He is one of those guys that 653 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: just tells you the truth. He truly doesn't care. When 654 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: you're with him, you ask an opinion and John will 655 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: give you. He'll give you an answer. He just does. 656 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: And he's so much fun to be around. And he's 657 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's got this basketball family. His father Hall 658 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: of Famer, his brother won a few titles in San Antonio. 659 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: His other brother won a national title at Kansas. But 660 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: John played a long time, good team player, great shooter, 661 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: tough guy. But when you're out with him, he's one 662 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: of those guys that's got stories. May not know that 663 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: they're stories, but you touch on a topic or a player, 664 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: a situation, a team, and then he'll just throw something 665 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: out and he's always got something fun to say. Yeah, Paul, 666 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: and guys like him. I mean, look at like Duncan 667 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: Robbins from the Malik Miami Heat. He's been in a 668 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: league for a long time. Even if he doesn't average 669 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: twenty five points a game. If you could if you 670 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: could hit your free throws and hit from three, especially 671 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: now like John Barry would have been more vital in 672 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: this thing. Oh, absolutely great free throw shooter and a 673 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: really good three point shooter. A couple of phone calls 674 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: Burry in Long Islands, back high Berry, what's on your 675 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: mind today? Good morning fellas. Actually it's Bury on Long 676 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: Island in Cincinnati. Three quick things. I was at that 677 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: crazy Met Gret game last night. Shout out to my 678 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: new friend's six year old Ulysses an eight year old Cedo. 679 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: As I was checking into the hotel, I was wearing 680 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: my Dan Patrick get off my lawn t shirt and 681 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: the valet said, cool shirt. Love DP. And you were 682 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: absolutely right about Skyline Chili, very very soupy, and don't 683 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: give Gary too much if he is correct. All right, Well, 684 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: Gary Cohen, the e Men's announcer, may join us. He 685 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: trashed h the Chilian Cincinnati, which is fine. I mean, 686 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: he has every right to do that. I don't know 687 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: why he would be so mean spirited. There's some positives 688 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: there with gold Star Skyline. Yes, you keep saying it's fine, 689 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like it's fine. No, it's fine. 690 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: It serves a purpose, that's fine. Your voice went up 691 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: with two octaves. That means you're laying. You can't say 692 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: it's fine without no, it's fine. No, it's fine like Todd, 693 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: I say no, Todd's fine. Right, Yeah, that wasn't high pitched. 694 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: And when you say Todd's fine, he does a good job. Yes, 695 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: those are good mock headlines. No, it's goodn't got bad? 696 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: Tim and Cincinnati Hi, Tim, Hey Dan six foot two, 697 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: twenty Hey, Well, first of all, thank you for fighting 698 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: the good fight. I feel like Cincinnati usually gets a 699 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: lot of crap nationally, but um, a lot of people 700 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: don't know here in cincinnat Addie. It's kind of a 701 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: big debate between Skyline and gold Star, and I'd say 702 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly people are in favor of Skyland. But I've been 703 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: listening for a long time and it seems like you 704 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: might have a preference for gold Star. No one to see. Nope, 705 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: I have a preference for us Scolini's. We would always 706 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: call it Scolini's just to kind of dress it up 707 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: a little bit instead of Skyline. That's what my dad 708 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: told it to all right, Well, thank you Tom. Yeah, 709 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: And we were trying to dress it up Hey, we're 710 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: thinking about going to Scollini's. Oh okay, wow, that must 711 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: be really good Italian food. Yeah, it's Skyland. But Scolini's 712 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: doc in California, high Doc. What's on your mind today? 713 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: Oh Dan, Dan, damn man, you're killing me small. So 714 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: before you tell me to stay in my land, I 715 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: gotta give you a quick backstory. I grew up in Indianapolis, 716 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: went to indian University for ten years, and so I 717 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: grew up as a Cincinnati Reds fan. So my family 718 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: and I would always go to Reds games and go 719 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: to King's Island. So a little bit of Cincinnati background, 720 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: if you can say so. But there are three things 721 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: that just at the mention of it causes me to 722 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: immediately have a gag reflex and basically throw up in 723 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: my mouth. And number one is cottage cheese. Number two 724 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: is gold Star Chili, and number three is White Castle. 725 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: So to say that I've basically gagged ten times I'm 726 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: away to work this morning is an understatement. Awesome. I'm 727 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: just gonna continue to say cottage cheese, cottage cheese, cottage cheese, 728 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: cottage cheese. I love White Castle. I do. I know. 729 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: The song takes just a minute, fancy a little box 730 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: with a hamburger in it for your joy. We never 731 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: fry them. We steam them on a bun. Buy white 732 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: castles by the sack because no one can eat just one. Yeah. 733 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: If you could somehow remove the how would you say, 734 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: white castle aftermath? I would eat hate them every week? Yeah, 735 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: the aftermath can be quite troubling. Kevin and Cincinnati joins us. Hi, Kevin, Hey, 736 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: how's it going, guy? I have a conversation about you 737 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: last night with your old of the son of your 738 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,479 Speaker 1: guidance counselor who is trying to get you to become 739 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: a plumber. I don't know if you remember that or not. 740 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: But on the other side, as far as Skyline is concerned, 741 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: so last night, watching the game, sit down like, hey, 742 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: what do I want to eat? Got skylight? So I'm 743 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: sitting there watching the game and all this stuff on Twitter. 744 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I got three cheese Coney's in 745 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: my in my hand right now. So I think the 746 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: Slanderers there, I understand it, but they got to be 747 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: doing something right because they sell about, you know, four 748 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: or five million dollars a year. Yeah. Yeah, and you 749 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: know that the chili dogs are really good. I don't 750 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: remember my guidance counselor suggesting I become a plumber. I 751 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: know he discouraged me from going to college, but you know, 752 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: a plumber is a good business. Like, how would you 753 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: like it if I showed up at your your house 754 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: the plumber's crack and I walk in. Yes, Ton, that's 755 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: very specific for a guidance counsel. What did that particular? Jo? 756 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: I do you know that? I just found out my 757 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 1: father used to work on telephone poles. He would climb 758 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: telephone poles when he when he got out of the 759 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: military and he was looking for a job, and he 760 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: used to work for the phone company climbing. He had 761 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: those boots that had the spikes in it. Yet all 762 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: things yeah, and my dad used to work on telephone poles. 763 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: U Chuck in Michigan, Hi, Chuck Dan, How you doing great? Chuck? 764 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: Um stopped at Skyline in Fort Wayne over the weekend, 765 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: and I have to take umbradge with your comments about it. 766 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: You know, the sky The Cincinnati chili is not a 767 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: stick chili that you would make all afternoon in a 768 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: slow cooker. It's more like a pizza. It's a sauce 769 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: at chili sauce like a pizza sauce or a spaghetti sauce. 770 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: So it's just a topping. It's not you wouldn't get 771 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: a bowl at Chi Skyline Chili for lunch. In other words, 772 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: so um, interested in listening to all the comments, love 773 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: your show, Thank you Chunk, Thank you chunk. I'm not 774 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: saying it's like you've spent eight hours making this chili. 775 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm just saying at midnight, when you've had a couple 776 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: of pops and you want to have a couple of 777 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: cheese coneys, like, come on, maybe if they took a 778 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: little more time making the chili. But they have to 779 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 1: They have to serve so many people that they don't 780 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: have time to be able to really make great chili. Yes, 781 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: you know that it's going to turn out tomorrow. In 782 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati newspaper, talking head Patrick turns back on hometown. 783 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: Yeah no, not the first time they've done that, said 784 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: that I need to I need to have a press release. 785 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: I think that I put out here. I got to 786 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: get somebody to craft me a press release. Walking back statements, Yeah, 787 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: I got a treat coming up the top of next hour. 788 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: Not going to tell you who it is, but I 789 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 1: got a real treat coming up close out the second 790 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: hour with Sleep Number. 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