WEBVTT - Not Ready for Prime Time.  Katy Grimes Talks to A&G

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<v Speaker 1>Critics just say that you either relaxed or failed to

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<v Speaker 1>enforce sanctions on Iran, allowing all of this money to

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<v Speaker 1>flow into Iran Like Billings.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to Donald Trump who pulled who pulled

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<v Speaker 2>out of a deal that would have actually put but

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<v Speaker 2>here Ron in check the estimates and billion during Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's administration, that Ron regime, that we had an American

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<v Speaker 2>military base that was attacked, where American soldiers suffered traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>brain injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kamala Harris with Brett Barry yesterday, and we played

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<v Speaker 1>some of that already in the show, and we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>more of it coming up later in a little punditry

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<v Speaker 1>around that. Just wanted to establish Kamala Harris's voice in

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<v Speaker 1>presidents before we got to Katie Grimes, who's been following

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris's career for quite some time. Katie Grahams, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know this around the country, is the editor

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<v Speaker 1>in chief of the California Globe, longtime investigative journalists covering

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<v Speaker 1>the California State Capitol. Co author of the book California's

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<v Speaker 1>War Against Donald Trump. Katie Grimes joins the Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getty Show. Oh Katie, how are you doing today.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, kak doing well?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>So? How long have you known, being a reporter in

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<v Speaker 1>California of Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>Since she was district Yeah, since she was first running

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<v Speaker 4>for district attorney.

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<v Speaker 3>And you followed her rise over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything stand out about the current Kamala we're seeing versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Kamala you've known all these years, or any comment

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<v Speaker 1>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what's interesting is I think today she really comes

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<v Speaker 4>off like a fish out of water. Back when she

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<v Speaker 4>was San Francisco DA, and even when she was still

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<v Speaker 4>California Attorney General, I think she was operating in her world,

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<v Speaker 4>the world she was familiar with San Francisco and California,

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<v Speaker 4>and she exuded a lot more confidence back then. Today,

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<v Speaker 4>I think she comes off like she's not ready for

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<v Speaker 4>prime time and when she gets caught way she did yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>unable to answer questions with Brett Bhaer in the Fox interview,

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<v Speaker 4>I actually used the B word to describe her. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>say true, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did you use the B word to when you

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<v Speaker 1>were describing her? Your husband or in the paper?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, yeah I didn't write it, but I would

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<v Speaker 4>say shrew because then you shrew was a woman of

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<v Speaker 4>violent temper, which she is notorious for having. Really and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he really flipped on Brett Bhaer in that

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<v Speaker 4>interview when she just started yelling at him. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's that's that's Pabla.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, that's a Rorshock test thing where if you're

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<v Speaker 1>predisposed to not dig her act, it looks like she's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of a bee u where suppose if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a fan, you know, she's just strongly pushing back

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<v Speaker 1>against the the the maga white male of Fox. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the way that works.

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<v Speaker 3>But so so.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to figure out for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like you have an answer to this question.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the real Kamala.

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala the cop, Kamala, the prosecutor, Kamala the hard ass

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<v Speaker 1>going after criminals, or is the real Kamala the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen presidential candidate who was a huge failure, who is

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<v Speaker 1>like so soft and lefty and you know, just like

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<v Speaker 1>the very degree of being a liberal, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>real her.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Ask a very very good question, because I think Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>was created at a whole cloth. We've seen this happen

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<v Speaker 4>before with other politicians. Her go to is always total leftism.

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<v Speaker 4>She's very clearly much a Marxist. She's not a tough

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<v Speaker 4>cop type of lawyer or a prosecutor. If she was,

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<v Speaker 4>she actually would have prosecuted not the guys who were

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<v Speaker 4>caught with marijuana, but maybe the guys that sold it

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<v Speaker 4>to them. And that's all she did. She was just

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<v Speaker 4>looking for wins and it didn't matter if they were

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<v Speaker 4>big wins like mailing dealers or suppliers. And that was

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<v Speaker 4>definitely her reputation in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>So at what point, and I think you know where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go with this, at what point did

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<v Speaker 1>she start dating the most powerful man at the time

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire state of California, Willie Brown.

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<v Speaker 4>She started dating him before she ever got into politics.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the one that facilitated her getting into politics and

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<v Speaker 4>then had the ability to raise the money to make

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<v Speaker 4>her win. And what I understand and have had this

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<v Speaker 4>confirmed via word of mouth, is that when Allanan was

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<v Speaker 4>still the San Francisco District Attorney and Kamala had worked

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<v Speaker 4>for him, he was prosecuting some of Willie Brown's friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say there was some corruption going on in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, you're shocked. And Willie Brown did not want that,

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<v Speaker 4>and so he put Kamela up to it and made

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<v Speaker 4>sure she was so fully funded she could pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>just buy the victory and then all the corruption charges

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<v Speaker 4>went away.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So Willy Brown, for people who don't know around the country,

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<v Speaker 1>was a mayor in San Francisco. He was a speaker

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<v Speaker 1>in the He was the most powerful man in the

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<v Speaker 1>state government for a very long time. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful man in the entire state of California. But

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't just she was young and hot that

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<v Speaker 1>he was interested in her. He helped her rise up

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<v Speaker 1>through the ranks and made some problems go away for

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<v Speaker 1>him and his friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think that continued obviously as she was

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<v Speaker 4>district attorney. And you know, over the years we've certainly

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<v Speaker 4>seen other cases of it. It's good to have a

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<v Speaker 4>district attorney in your back pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>He was married at the time that he had a

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with Kamala Harris. Correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Willie Brown was a notorious womanizer, and I believe

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<v Speaker 4>they were together a couple of years. And what I

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<v Speaker 4>understand from locals there is she actually broke it off

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<v Speaker 4>because it was pretty evident he wasn't going to leave

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<v Speaker 4>his wife to make a permanent life with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess good for her for figuring that out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which is obviously kind of obviously you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're watching Sex and the City or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But so have you seen that video that is going around?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it on Twitter where God it's way way

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<v Speaker 1>way back in the day and she's Willie Brown's girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>and some reporter asks her, Oh, are you his daughter?

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<v Speaker 1>It's at some function and she says no because she's

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<v Speaker 1>so young in that video.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I know it's it was. Yeah, there was definitely

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously a you know, a large age gap. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was twenty nine years. But they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>as I said, together for two years, and he took

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<v Speaker 4>her on the San Francisco circuit, every fun raiser, Imaginable,

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<v Speaker 4>the opera, the ballet, you know, every event. It was

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<v Speaker 4>probably a great time for her. But it was after

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<v Speaker 4>that that he appointed her to a couple of different commissions.

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<v Speaker 4>So in addition to being a I think she was

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<v Speaker 4>working for the city attorney at that time, making whatever

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<v Speaker 4>a city attorney makes she was also getting paid for

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<v Speaker 4>attending a few meetings a year, and I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was something well over one hundred thousand just for sitting

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<v Speaker 4>on those commissions.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it was a good time for her. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>okay with sleeping with somebody who's twice your age. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no way to get inside her head to know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you know he's a very charismatic guy,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know Willie Brown, good looking, well dressed, charismatic,

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<v Speaker 1>powerful guy. I mean that could be very attractive. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she actually fell for him, or you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he was going to be a help. The

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<v Speaker 1>glide path to riches in power is also a recent edatium.

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<v Speaker 3>And so how much of which of the each we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know? I suppose no.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than I My assessment of Kamala is that she's

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly ambitious more is never enough type, and you you

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<v Speaker 4>pair that with perhaps this very average intelligence, and it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of makes her dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that angle of it, the average intelligence?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the what was the belief about her when

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<v Speaker 1>she is running around with with Willie Brown? Where it

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<v Speaker 1>was was everybody saying, man, she's a rising star, She's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big deal or or as you're suggesting,

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of average.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't think people were particularly impressed with

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<v Speaker 4>her intellect. I think it was more she uh, you know, young,

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<v Speaker 4>pretty hanging out with Willie, were vibrant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was her youth and and probably her

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<v Speaker 4>ambition as well that people recognized. It was never intellect,

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<v Speaker 4>believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're fairly solid on the idea that she's of

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<v Speaker 1>average intelligence because I've been trying to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Also if she's just not, because I know some really

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<v Speaker 1>smart people that if you interviewed them with lights and

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<v Speaker 1>cameras would not do very well. I mean, it's its

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<v Speaker 1>own kind of skill to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're pretty solid and feeling like she's actually average intelligence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I absolutely believe that. You know, I don't give

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<v Speaker 4>out IQ tests or anything. Yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 4>she's shown that many many times over the years. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>ambition always won out. And that's why, you know, as

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<v Speaker 4>I was describing the cases he chose to prosecute in

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<v Speaker 4>San Francisco, even as Attorney General, she was vicious as

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<v Speaker 4>attorney general. She's the one that went after David Delaydon

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<v Speaker 4>who exposed that Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts from

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<v Speaker 4>aborted fetuses.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's the one who went after him, not Planned

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<v Speaker 4>Parenthood or the people that were selling new baby parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that should be a scandal. Although it's tough for

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<v Speaker 1>anything to break through in our current political environment. As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, you're either either on Team Trump

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<v Speaker 1>or not, and it doesn't seem like anything moves the needle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday's interview with Brett Bear will not move the needle

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<v Speaker 1>at all. A near assassination didn't really move the needle,

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody's locked in. We're talking with Katie Grimes, editor

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<v Speaker 1>in chief of the California Globe. A couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hit on before we let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, as a California I can't believe Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Shift's going to be my senator at some point. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so disgusting to me that he is able

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<v Speaker 1>to benefit from lying about all that Russia stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>all the claims he made for years, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>freaking end up being a senator probably for the next

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I know that he just makes my skin crawl.

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<v Speaker 4>He is, you know, the epitome of a vile, creepy politician,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're right, Yeah, I am so disgusted that California

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<v Speaker 4>could not find somebody to beat him. It either speaks

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<v Speaker 4>volumes about California or volumes about the Republican Party in California,

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<v Speaker 4>which perhaps is more accurate. But all we can hope

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<v Speaker 4>at this point is that he's mostly neutered because the

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<v Speaker 4>GOP takes back the Senate. So I'm crossing all my

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<v Speaker 4>fingers and toes and saying a daily prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>And one other thing I just wanted to bring up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of for my own personal knowledge. California

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<v Speaker 1>Globe dot Com the headline California mask dictators bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>mask mandates? Who and where are we gonna have mask

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<v Speaker 1>mandates again?

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<v Speaker 4>The Bay Area. There's a several counties in the Bay

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<v Speaker 4>Area that have updated their public health department websites to

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<v Speaker 4>include mask mandates. It is mind boggling that that they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to this again. I pointed out in the article

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<v Speaker 4>masks have been so debunked as having any value of

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<v Speaker 4>stopping a virus. Yeah, they stop bacteria, they don't stop

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<v Speaker 4>a virus. That I think it just shows you that

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<v Speaker 4>we do have a lot of real authoritarians in public health.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they like doing this to people, and if

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<v Speaker 4>they thought it would gain any steam for the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the state, they'd be thrilled. On an interesting note, Jack,

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<v Speaker 4>that article, when I posted it on Facebook, Facebook took

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<v Speaker 4>it down. So I reposted it, and they took it

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<v Speaker 4>down again. I reposted it and said this time, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>San Francisco Chronicle originated this story. I just did more

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<v Speaker 4>data and research on it. They took it down again.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, what do you think their argument would be Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not misinformation, it's just a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's true, that's the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they claim it was misinformation, they claim it was spam.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just so frustrating. This is what we

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<v Speaker 4>deal with in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is troubling.

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<v Speaker 1>That is troubling, and from the side that's claiming that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we need to do away with the First Amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Grimes, you should follow her. You should read this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if you're not in California, it will affect

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<v Speaker 1>you wherever you are. The editor in chief of the

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<v Speaker 1>California Globe, Katie, thanks for your time today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Jack Yeah Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook taking down a factual article about mask mandate.

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<v Speaker 3>What more on the way, Stay here Armstrong and Getty