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Speaker 3: Hi, kak doing well?

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Speaker 1: So? How long have you known, being a reporter in

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Speaker 4: a virus. That I think it just shows you that

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Speaker 4: we do have a lot of real authoritarians in public health.

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Speaker 4: I think they like doing this to people, and if

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Speaker 4: of the state, they'd be thrilled. On an interesting note, Jack,

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Speaker 4: that article, when I posted it on Facebook, Facebook took

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Speaker 4: it down. So I reposted it, and they took it

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Speaker 4: down again. I reposted it and said this time, hey,

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Speaker 4: data and research on it. They took it down again.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what do you think their argument would be Because

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Speaker 1: it's not misinformation, it's just a thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's true, that's the point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they claim it was misinformation, they claim it was spam.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just so frustrating. This is what we

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Speaker 4: deal with in California.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is troubling.

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Speaker 1: That is troubling, and from the side that's claiming that,

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Speaker 1: you know, we need to do away with the First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: Katie Grimes, you should follow her. You should read this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and even if you're not in California, it will affect

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Speaker 1: you wherever you are. The editor in chief of the

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Speaker 1: California Globe, Katie, thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Jack Yeah Wow.

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Speaker 1: Facebook taking down a factual article about mask mandate.

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Speaker 3: What more on the way, Stay here Armstrong and Getty