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Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody when they come on the

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Speaker 1: show is when you first got to the league.

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Speaker 2: Who was the first person to.

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Speaker 3: Bust your ass straight straight too?

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Speaker 2: Steve Smith, Snitty. Yeah, it was slow, but it was

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Speaker 2: right to the point. Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, Steve was great in the pick and roll setting.

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Speaker 4: You know, another six eighty sixty nine guy to get

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Speaker 4: a shot off. Yeah, and he only needed, you know,

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Speaker 4: so much room to get a shot off. I just

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Speaker 4: couldn't figure it out. I do remember my first four

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Speaker 4: preseason games. First game at North Carolina, we played the Bulls,

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Speaker 4: and then we went to New York. Then we came home,

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Speaker 4: played the Pistons, and then we played in Atlanta and

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Speaker 4: Smitty I think that game had about.

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Speaker 2: Forty maybe thirty five. It was preseason early, so he

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Speaker 2: was it was getting getting himself going Mookie back in

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Speaker 3: Yo yo yo, live on location.

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Speaker 5: Me and d Miles, I stay in my asses at

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Speaker 5: home here in Orlando, trying to stay safe, and we

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Speaker 5: got our og big brother, New Jersey Legend, New Jersey

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Speaker 5: player in the building with us live on location from

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Speaker 5: La California. Tim Thomas in the building, y'all.

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Speaker 2: What a do t what's up? Fellas what's going on?

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Speaker 1: When I was coming up early, it was three guys

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Speaker 1: that was my skin color, that was sh hey and

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Speaker 1: you one of them guys, Kemp one of them guys,

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Speaker 1: and going that one of them guys. When I first

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Speaker 1: seen tape on you in high school, it was just like, Man,

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Speaker 1: that dude looked exactly like me. I want to be

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Speaker 1: like that dude, smoothest head, you know what I'm saying. Patterson,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey? How was it going to passing Catholic and

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Speaker 1: doing what you did in passing Patterson?

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Speaker 2: General in New Jersey is like East Saint Louis and

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Speaker 2: Chicago exactly exactly Passing Catholic?

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Speaker 4: How was that it was different because the two dominant

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Speaker 4: schools was Eastside High where they have the infamous Lean

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Speaker 4: on Me movie, and then Kennedy High School, So those

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Speaker 4: schools was well established, and then going to pass the

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Speaker 4: Catholic was something totally different, something totally you know, they

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Speaker 4: was known as punk city because school they had the

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Speaker 4: best looking girls and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So going in just changing the culture was everything.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, being the number one freshman in

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Speaker 4: the country it kind of helped as well. So I

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Speaker 4: was considered like the tony soprano of New Jersey at

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Speaker 4: that particular time, and coming to New Jersey to see me,

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Speaker 4: you know, knowing did they want us to come see them?

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Speaker 4: So in a four year span got rest of Soul

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Speaker 4: and the four year span, me and Kobe was one

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Speaker 4: and two in the country right well hour and a

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Speaker 4: half away from each other. Never played a game against

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Speaker 5: That's crazy together though, Yeah we played au ball together,

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Speaker 5: but that was, you know, a little younger.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking like our.

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Speaker 4: High school days, right there been one on one you know,

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Speaker 4: I was half away from each other.

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Speaker 2: Never made it happen.

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Speaker 3: That's that is crazy. So how about this do you remember?

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Speaker 3: I can't. I want to say it was.

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Speaker 5: It had to be ninety six, ninety seven y'all came

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Speaker 5: to Chicago for the Hoops and the Loop classic.

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Speaker 3: Yeh bruh. Now this the first time I see you

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Speaker 5: I'm young boy. I was with them a fifteen sixteen freshman, sophomore.

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Speaker 5: I think I was a sophomore. Then I'm up in

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Speaker 5: that joint and they were like, yeah, it's you know

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Speaker 5: Tim Thomas blah blah, you know you and what was

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Speaker 5: his name? Kevin Kevin Freeman. Kevin Freeman had stupid bounce too.

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Speaker 5: These like the first two dudes I see whim Like, yo,

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Speaker 5: these dudes look like pros, like grown men. Kevin Freeman

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Speaker 5: was like six six thieves throwing that thing. This man

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Speaker 5: like six nine sixteen just look, I'm talking about everything

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Speaker 5: about it. He was physically bigger than everybody.

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Speaker 3: He had the.

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Speaker 5: Lightest like thirty whatever or forty whateaven like fifteen twenty boys,

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Speaker 5: And all I remember is the head just bopping while

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Speaker 5: up like catching the ball, just like oh they little.

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Speaker 3: He just looked like his face expression and everything's just

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Speaker 5: I was like, dude till I'll never forget after that,

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Speaker 5: I was like Tim Thomas, the coldest high school player

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Speaker 5: I've ever seen in person at that point, Bro, Like,

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Speaker 5: how was that when you came to Chicago? Like with

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Speaker 5: that one of the few times or did y'all travel

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: We always traveled out of the state to play, you know,

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Speaker 4: against the best teams in the best showcases of tournaments.

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Speaker 2: Being in Chicago was cool.

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Speaker 4: We just heard a lot of talk about Ronnie Fields

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Speaker 4: and KG and a lot of people wanted us to

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Speaker 2: It was cool, man, it was cool. I mean Chicago

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, with the game and as many

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how was it?

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Speaker 2: Like? You know, East St.

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Speaker 1: Louis is a small a small city and it's in

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Speaker 1: how was that experience for you?

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Speaker 2: Like, we had a few guys.

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Speaker 4: We had a few guys come before me, Roy Sparrow

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Speaker 4: who went to the Hall he still works in the NBA. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the White Worlver who went to nov as well. And

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Speaker 4: then my guy James Scott went to Saint John's and

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Speaker 4: played with the Miami Heat for like two years. No

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Speaker 4: one has done it like I've done it on the

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Speaker 2: It was different.

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Speaker 4: I think overall, it definitely put our city back on

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Speaker 2: Paved the way for some of the youngsters that came

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Speaker 5: You know, hey, you came up in that era where

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Speaker 5: So I want to know, because I know I came

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Speaker 5: that when you set foot in that set and you

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Speaker 3: How was that experience for you?

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. The kids up today wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to survive it at all. I

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Speaker 2: mean it was it was war, honestly.

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Speaker 4: I mean each and every game you was really going

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Speaker 2: Run into those guys and you had to show improve.

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Speaker 4: It was war, man, it was war. I mean it

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Speaker 4: was competitive. Guys didn't care about names, ranked anything. You know,

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Speaker 4: when you're going up against somebody, that's just what it is.

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Speaker 4: I remember my I think it was our junior year

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Speaker 4: going into our senior year at ABC camp, Kobe actually

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Speaker 4: Jermaine o' nail and I was tearing him up. Dunked

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Speaker 4: just killing. I'm sitting on the side just watching them,

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Speaker 4: they wouldn't be able to survive. Back then, the way

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Speaker 4: AAU was, it was like the wild wild West could

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Speaker 4: we definitely played on the greatest AA team ever, beating

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Speaker 4: was definitely different. Back in the day.

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Speaker 1: That was a time when you hear somebody name and

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Speaker 1: Tim Thomas and everybody raising for you just as much

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Speaker 2: People want to take a shot at the title.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, these days, I don't really see that. It's

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Speaker 1: Back in our days, it was like if you got

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the best one. People want to get

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, even back then though, you would find some

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Speaker 3: Nike camp was.

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Speaker 5: So loaded that we had some of the d His guys,

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Speaker 5: come to Nike because if he wanted to get his ranking,

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Speaker 3: And like killing some none tops. He wasn't going who

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Speaker 5: So he got to that point to where like, okay,

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Speaker 5: I did not have a good camp. I was sitting

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Speaker 5: it's real, like a l O dribbling down the court

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Speaker 5: was crazy then it was. I was looking around like, man,

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Speaker 5: Reedy Daniels was a fool wit. It was some boys

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, I mean it's different times, different times.

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Speaker 1: Your McDonald's game experience, how was that with all that

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Speaker 4: You win, oh Man ninety six was cool man. We

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Speaker 4: played down at the University of Pitt Like I said earlier,

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Speaker 4: me and Kobe, our rooms was probably like four rooms apart.

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Speaker 4: But we were just trying to figure each other out

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Speaker 4: make that jump going to the league, Stack Jacks on

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Speaker 4: that yeah, Steven Jackson, Mike Bibbie, Red Hamilton, Jamaine was

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Speaker 4: It was the first time for a lot of us

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Speaker 4: Experience where we got to be around some of THE

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Speaker 1: You you was already equipped with that, Ship LIKE i

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe that you actually getting go to the pros

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Speaker 2: Choose what made you.

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Speaker 1: Decide not to go pro even though everybody's thinking you're going,

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Speaker 4: Choose, well the thing about the whole pro thing was,

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Speaker 2: That but the whole pro thing WAS i wanted to

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Speaker 4: know we'll definitely be in that top ten. Category so Picking,

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Speaker 4: villanova they Had Jason lawson and The Alvin williams guys

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Speaker 2: True so that's WHY i Chose.

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Speaker 4: Villanova, Also lapis was going to allow me to play

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Speaker 4: mainly the. Decision right then you decided to go.

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Speaker 1: Out how many workouts did you have to go?

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Speaker 2: Through that's, funny, MAN i went through maybe three, workouts

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Speaker 4: WENT i Went, Philly jersey, twice and Then boston Because

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Speaker 2: In just run. Suicide you know WHAT i can, Do,

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Speaker 1: Philly and you get drafted For, Philly, like was you

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Speaker 1: excited to be drafted With philly.

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Speaker 2: Actually being drafted?

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Speaker 4: Seventh actually got drafted to the home team To New jersey,

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Speaker 3: Drafted that's, right that's.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah But keith Van horn had the power, agent

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Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean come on at.

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Speaker 4: Ed for, me it was cool to go To philly

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Speaker 4: BECAUSE i was a guy that can handle the, ball

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Speaker 2: Three but my rookie Year Light brown to try to

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Speaker 4: Ground, man he just got, it you, know run me

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Speaker 4: On you, know that's why you See allen playing with

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Speaker 4: know put that team. TOGETHER i enjoyed, it. MAN i

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Speaker 4: thought that IF i would have stayed In, PHILLY i

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Speaker 4: could have been you, Know Alan's pippin could have got

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Speaker 4: it done BECAUSE i didn't need a lot of shots

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Speaker 4: Chuck but you, know you give me, Fifteen i'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Right you, know twenty twenty. Plus you.

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Speaker 4: Know so it was, just you, know for me being

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Speaker 2: THAT i, mean it just made. Sense it was.

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Speaker 1: Perfect we got in the league in two thousand and

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Speaker 2: Straight but that year we watched so much.

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Speaker 2: Bucks when You sam could.

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Speaker 1: Say Big dog like y'all's why was equipped to beat,

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Speaker 1: know like we're watching the, game AND i felt Like

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Speaker 1: And Big dog and like all that y'all was trying

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Speaker 1: me WHEN i got traded, THERE i never really wanted

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Speaker 2: THERE i was trying to get.

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Speaker 3: Out nobody wanted to go To.

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee, no it wasn't because of the.

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Speaker 4: City it was just because of the team about, yeah

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Speaker 4: And i'm, like you Have Big, dog he's still you,

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Speaker 4: you Had, ray who, was you, know trying to establish,

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Speaker 4: itself and he Had sam coming off of winning TWO nba.

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Speaker 2: Championships So i'm, like these guys are they're.

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Speaker 4: ENOUGH i don't need to be, Here like you could

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Speaker 2: Am coming From philly WHERE i can do my thing a.

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Speaker 4: Little, bit and then now waring To milwaukee and NOW

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Speaker 4: i got to figure out the six man. Role so

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Speaker 4: it was, difficult but we had some great. Runs we

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Speaker 4: kept running into that Talented indiana. Team detroit used to

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Speaker 4: Playoffs and THEN i JUST i really still to this,

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Speaker 4: day don't know how we lost To, philly you, know dominance.

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Speaker 4: Finals BUT i Mean allen was, just you, know terrific

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Speaker 4: Killer we was right. There it was a very very talented,

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Speaker 5: i'm not looking at it IF i look at it for,

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Speaker 5: me you, know first couple years in, league now we

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Speaker 3: Be and it's even more, hard like you, say when

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Speaker 5: Your peers in them, positions they being given them opportunities

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Speaker 5: Clippers of course we already know going into the season

443
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 5: we're not gonna make the, playoffs but you, know we

444
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 5: excited to play and were playing hard and we. Compete

445
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 5: then when season over, season oh we go straight to the.

446
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 5: CAREER i can remember sitting at the crib and Watching

447
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 5: Mo pete for The raptors being the, playoffs AND i was, like, dang,

448
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 5: bro like this.

449
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: Is WHAT i.

450
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 3: Wish all, y'all you know What i'm. Saying he got.

451
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 5: Drafted Later i'm Like i'm back, there, like, man i'd

452
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 5: have went twenty two to be in the playoffs and

453
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 5: not like forget, it like you know What i'm. Saying

454
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 5: but that's definitely a different perspective that me even as a.

455
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: PLAYER i was a young player, then BUT i wasn't

456
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: looking at it like. That.

457
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, YEAH i was trying to get, out, man BECAUSE

458
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 4: i was still in my rookie.

459
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: Deal, Right, YEAH i really had no.

460
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 4: Control so the only way to get out was to be.

461
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 4: Traded you, KNOW i went through my ups and. Downs,

462
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 4: MAN i was. Frustrated at that. TIME i Had Arn,

463
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: tellem who was really a baseball, agent you, know into

464
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 4: the basketball, world and he signed all the Young bucks like,

465
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: Myself Kobe Team. MATT i Believe antoine was with. Us Antoine, Walker,

466
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 4: yeah man was it was. Difficult you, know the game

467
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 4: is the, game and he just got to figure it.

468
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: Out oh four, five you go to The, knicks Like New,

469
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 1: york right across the wall To New. Jersey how was

470
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: that being In New, york real real clothes in. CRIB

471
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: i Know philly was, closed but.

472
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 4: It was, everything, man growing up as A knicks, fan you,

473
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 4: know having a couple opportunities in high school to play

474
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 4: in the, garden but to put on that next, Year,

475
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 4: man it meant everything to me the.

476
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: Family it was just like a you, know a dream

477
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: come too when you can play for the home.

478
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 4: Team you, KNOW i thought that we had a talented

479
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 4: team early, on a lot of veteran, guys but we

480
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 4: was kind of banged up a little. Bit but it

481
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 4: was a, thrill, man to be able to be home

482
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: and you, know be in that environment playing the guard

483
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 4: and get.

484
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: Booed you know all of that concept that comes with. It,

485
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: man you, know so it was.

486
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 5: Great tell people about you just, said like being in

487
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 5: the guard and they get, booed and just you being

488
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 5: An East Coast jersey guy knowing how that. Is just

489
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 5: tell people how that is to be a nick and

490
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 5: that whole. Vact BECAUSE i remember when we was. THERE

491
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 5: i used to look at you every. Day it was

492
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 5: like me and you only got like forty games in that.

493
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 5: Season got BUT i my ever last. AMEMBER i tell

494
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 5: you this all the, Time Like tim was the happiest

495
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 5: dude all the. Time them come, in got that big.

496
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 5: Cheese i'm like sub, doggy sub dogy like you know

497
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 5: What i'm. Saying i'm, like, yo he like man like

498
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 5: none of. It like you to me ward and dealt with,

499
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 5: it you know What i'm. Saying you get your, thing

500
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 5: you can put in your. Word you went to the

501
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 5: games and then you know you did your thing out.

502
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 5: There you didn't sweat it, like so tell me what

503
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 5: was your perspective on all of that and how you

504
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 5: dealt with it so?

505
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: WELL i mean growing, up you know what it's about

506
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: with the media and all of that with the vibes

507
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: and stuff, there but a lot of people don't KNOW

508
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 4: i lost my sister and my cousin within a two

509
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: week span from that. SEASON i, mean you, know kill

510
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: BUT i was just trying to hold it all, in you,

511
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 4: know for the family and just have a different perspective

512
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: on life and WHERE i was at that particular.

513
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: TIME i remember playing Lebrono i'm At.

514
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: HOME i shot a straight away three AND i hit

515
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 4: the side of the backboard and the fans was just going.

516
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 4: Crazy i'll never Forget lebron ran. Down it was, like come, on,

517
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: man you better than. THAT i know you're going through a,

518
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 4: lot but you better than. That and that at that

519
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: point right, there it kind of flicked for me BECAUSE i,

520
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 4: realized like this is a game we love and you,

521
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 4: know this is something that you, know you to get

522
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: your mind off. Of you, know don't bring the death

523
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: part of it to the. Arena enjoyed you know what

524
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: you do with the fellas and traveling and the. Place

525
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: so that's why you always see me bubbly like, THAT

526
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: q because it was like WHEN i was able to

527
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: leave the house environment and then get to work and

528
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: be around the fellasn't joking all that. Stuff that was

529
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: my my energy right. There that was the VIES i

530
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 4: needed at that particular.

531
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: Time straight. Up that was definitely what you showed. Too.

532
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 5: Bro, hey this is WHAT i wanted to ask, you,

533
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 5: man BECAUSE i remember when we played. TOGETHER i don't

534
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 5: remember at what POINT i figured it.

535
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: Out how did you get tight with fifty.

536
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: In THE g unit?

537
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 5: Movement BECAUSE i remember you coming in used to have

538
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 5: G uni year and being fast forward to recent you

539
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 5: get the whole power season before everybody else get. IT

540
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 5: i seen it him, though he got the whole joint

541
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 5: before it even come, Out, like, yeah you know you're

542
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 5: gonna be.

543
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: Solid, page you know you know. Me i'm with you BECAUSE.

544
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 5: I remember when we Was, yeah you had them coming

545
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 5: around a couple of times AND i was, like, man like.

546
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: Two times really tight With.

547
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: Well actually what happened was the g and their office

548
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: is right across the.

549
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: STREET i remember that because we used to park right under.

550
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: THERE i used to park right up under.

551
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 4: There so one particular, GAME i don't know which game,

552
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: Was Lloyd banks came to an actual game and the

553
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: fans rushed. Them so my security went over to help

554
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: them out to hold them down for that actual. Game

555
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: so after the, GAME i don't know if you, remember

556
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: that's when that was the time That banks AND i

557
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: Believe yayo was with, him came.

558
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: Out in the locker.

559
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: Room, yeah and that's when the first. Introduction, okay so all, right,

560
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: Okay so.

561
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: From, there from that, night instead of going out to eat,

562
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 4: DINNER i went straight across the street to the office

563
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: and that's WHEN i met fifty and. Everybody and you,

564
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: know at that point it just became a family. Thing

565
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: everybody was just so down to earth and cool whatever.

566
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: Whatever and then you, know they started coming around more

567
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: and to more games and stuff like.

568
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 5: That his officers we used always he's always his call over,

569
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: there like a fantom with the cover run and. Stuff

570
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: BECAUSE i remember a couple of times my Partner rio

571
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 5: used to tell, him, like, man if any want to

572
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: want to meet you one, time want you to come

573
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 5: to the office or. Whatever we never got a chance

574
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 5: to really make it, happen but we definitely that was

575
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 5: LIKE i was, like, man BECAUSE i remember you, came

576
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 5: you had used to had a gear. On THEN i, said,

577
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: YO i didn't know that was the first time you

578
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 5: met him. Though when they came in LIKE i thought

579
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 5: you had already knew him already and.

580
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 4: Everything, yeah that was that was the very first. Time

581
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: and you know that's when he was super super.

582
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: Hot you, know that's When i'm, there you, know.

583
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: Going across the street and you don't finally getting a

584
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: chance to meet him.

585
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: Just the way we. Vibe, man it was just you,

586
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: know it's just. COOL i still got my rebox is

587
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: to this day caught us you, Guys jordan babies and.

588
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: That it's.

589
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 5: Over hey look you know, Me i'm straight up and.

590
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 5: Down you see you see behind me first and. Last

591
00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 5: you know What i'm.

592
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Saying that's great pictures right. There how roller coasters the

593
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: season for you to go to three different cities and

594
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: wait for.

595
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: How you just explaining From New York chicago To.

596
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: Phoenix, Man, yeah, yeah WELL i was In New york

597
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: AND i was coming off the, books meaning that was

598
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: the last year my. Deal chicago was always upsetting me

599
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 4: because Bj Armstrong will retired turn agent With art to

600
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: tell him my free agency year went back and told

601
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 4: The bulls THAT i was coming to The. BULLS i

602
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: was gonna SIGN i believe at that time it was

603
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: after me And Eddie jones come after the team that

604
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: broke up and, everything and that's when they bring in

605
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: the young Fellas tyson.

606
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: And testing all those.

607
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: Guys but, yeah that's the forgotten time E j and

608
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: The bulls.

609
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: UNIFORM i, like waight forgot about, that? Man.

610
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah so that was. That that was day rookie.

611
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: Year and THEN i was, like Now i'll go back To.

612
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: Milwaukee you try to you, know get deep in the

613
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 4: playoffs again or whatever. Whatever but, no, man ONCE i

614
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 4: got To, chicago it was, basically you, know it was

615
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: putting me on the shelf due to WHAT bj. Said

616
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 4: so it was, like you, know you're not gonna play.

617
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 4: HERE i believe that Was Derrick rose rookie year or

618
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: his second. Year it was basically, like, look, man you're

619
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: not gonna play. Here and they Had Scott skiles there

620
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: And i'm, like you, was you, know got caught as

621
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: an alcoholic back in the, day and you're trying to you,

622
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: know tell an old, vet you, know some of these

623
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: young things to do and stuff like.

624
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: That so.

625
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: Just trying to get up out of. There and then

626
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: once they finally released, me they made me Go. West

627
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: so INITIALLY i was gonna go To San antonio because

628
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: at that Time San antonio was going to The chip

629
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: almost every. Year But phoenix was a great opportunity because

630
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: the big guys was, Hurt Kurt thomas And stat was

631
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: hurt at that. Time so they basically, said, look if

632
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: you come, in you're gonna play right, away thirty games

633
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: left and then you, know hopefully we have a nice

634
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: run in the.

635
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Playoffs and that's how it. Happened, man it was.

636
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: Crazy the most important thing for me was just trying

637
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: to find a way to stay in.

638
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Shape you, know that was d'An.

639
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: Toni, yeah this was the crazy.

640
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: Part this was the stretch WHERE i call it amazing because,

641
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 5: like as tough as it, was you went to all these,

642
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 5: teams but then it was like you hit a stretch

643
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: where it's, like all, right he might be out of

644
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: Where i'm about sign play with like forty games and

645
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 5: then bag, men.

646
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: You know What i'm.

647
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: Saying like he was, like cause you got it To

648
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 5: phoenix and you balled, Out so then you come to all,

649
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 5: Season dallas had to hit you with a. Bed you

650
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: was probably the most most well paid journeyman i've. Seen

651
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 5: you know What i'm, Saying, like how was that for, You.

652
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: LIKE i, said it was, crazy. MAN i, mean you,

653
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: know playing In New, york starting the season off camp

654
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: and all of, that and then getting, traded you, know

655
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: mid way through getting The chicago and just basically shutting

656
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: everything down my body and stuff like. That and then

657
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: it got to a point where it was, like we

658
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: don't even want you around the.

659
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: TEAM i was, like all, right. Perfectly so at that,

660
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: time the.

661
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: Family was still living In New, york SO i went

662
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: back To New. YORK i was running Through, manhattan going

663
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: To Basketball, city all that crazy. Stuff getting The, phoenix,

664
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: MAN i was just. Ready you, know as, players if

665
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: you get, injured you out two. Weeks when you come,

666
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: back it's like it's ONE.

667
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: I remember because that was always a theme in the,

668
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: games where you'll be.

669
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 5: Playing well they like he's been sitting now that he

670
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 5: hasn't like so that, yeah you.

671
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: Know and then at the same, time it was a free,

672
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: agent SO i MEAN i wanted to put myself in

673
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: a good position to get another, bag you. Know and

674
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: that was my third, contract AND i actually went to The.

675
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: CLIPPERS i was really five minutes away from signing with The. Lakers,

676
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: wow could you And matt me and Lo on the

677
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: same team With Cold crazy That that was the same

678
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: Year ramaidovich was a free. Agent he was coming from The,

679
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: clippers and we had to beat The lakers and The

680
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: clippers in the. Playoffs both teams was looking for shooters

681
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: at that. Time The clippers offered four for twenty, four

682
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: The lakers offer four for twenty, four And phoenix was

683
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: three for.

684
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: Fifteen BEFORE i can get back on the phone to

685
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: call The lakers and, like, Yeah i'm gonna take that.

686
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: Deal but mightily ch had already took the. Deal so

687
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: that's WHY i ended up with The. Clippers during that

688
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: old four or five year that's WHEN i had purchased

689
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: my house out here In la SO i wanted to you,

690
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: know home and finish it.

691
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: OFF i want to talk about like basketball politics because

692
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: people don't, realize like in THE, nba you can be

693
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: on a, team, yeah nothing, wrong and the upstairs will

694
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: be like it's a younger team and you're a little,

695
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: older so upstairs and be, LIKE i don't want you

696
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: to come in and work out and practice while the team.

697
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Practice then it go from you go on the trip

698
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: with the team and just cause you don't have nothing

699
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: to do because y'all won't play or even give me a.

700
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Jersey oh you know, what we don't even want you

701
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: to travel no more or be around the. Team and

702
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: some people don't know the politics of, that and they

703
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: ain't all about oh he's a bad person or he

704
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: did something.

705
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: Wrong that's.

706
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Somebody it's just that you would go to the team

707
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: and the politics of it and be, like, YEAH i

708
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: ain't fucking with, you, right and people, thinking you, know

709
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: they so quick with, media the pointed that the players be, like,

710
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: oh you did out and he just detrimental to the.

711
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: Team and ain't always the case the person don't do nothing,

712
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: wrong it's just this, shit we don't want you.

713
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: Around well, YEAH i mean it's always politics and everything

714
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: across the. Board but for, ME i learned at the

715
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: early age with The, SIXERS i was told that me

716
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: And allen was the only two untradable. PLAYERS i had

717
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 4: a meeting with THE, gm the coach and the, owner

718
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: and ten minutes later AFTER i left the, MEETING i

719
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: was already gone To. MILWAUKEE i learned that at an early.

720
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: Age and then with The chicago, thing man that really

721
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: wasn't my. FAULT i, MEAN Bj mstrong was the ASSISTANT

722
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: gm and he felt like because we had the same,

723
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: agent that maybe he got some insight on talking to

724
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: the agent and thought that that.

725
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: Was gonna be my.

726
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: Decision but, yeah, man a lot of times as, PLAYERS i,

727
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: mean we go through that kind of stuff and you guys, know,

728
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: man like you might have been on the team where

729
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: you felt as though you was better than you, know

730
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: the person ahead of, you but he had a bigger

731
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: check than. You so it's like they, want you, know

732
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: it's like the, circus come see the clowns and the.

733
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: Tigers that's what it, is you, know and when the guy's,

734
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: gonna you, know play ahead of.

735
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: You so it's just politics and. Everything.

736
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: MAN i learned that early, on and then going through

737
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: that situation With chicago was was.

738
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: Hell and even WHEN i WHEN i moved on from,

739
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: that like they was Telling phoenix, that.

740
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: You, KNOW i was a mad, person and you, KNOW

741
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: i got to find twenty thirty times like well what's

742
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: you know showing me the, things even all the way

743
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: down To dallas my last two years of, playing Telling

744
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: dallas like he's a bad, person.

745
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: He's, this he's, that you, Know AND i never got

746
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: fined In. CHICAGO i want.

747
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: From that teammates talking about you a bad person that

748
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: everybody rock with, team but they didn't want me to.

749
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: Follow, WELL i didn't follow the rules that they were

750
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: setting at that particular time BECAUSE i thought it was.

751
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: Dumb they was doing psychological classes where they would put

752
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 4: a tree in front of, you, actually what is?

753
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 6: That?

754
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Right or put the fire in front of you and

755
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: say what is? That i'm, like this has nothing to

756
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: do with.

757
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 4: Basketball but you, know you had all those young guys

758
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: at that, time and the vets on that.

759
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: Team was myself And Lindsey.

760
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: Hunter, yeah and you Know lindsey was on his way

761
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 4: out and he was close to, home you, know being In.

762
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: CHICAGO i think he was living In. Detroit BUT i

763
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: mean at that, time, man it was just it was.

764
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: Weird but business business and politics is.

765
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: Politics, hey tell me how does it? Feel BECAUSE i

766
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 5: see how much of an impact you have back In

767
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 5: New jersey and with YOUR aau, team the, players and

768
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 5: tell me how it is for you to be able

769
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 5: to give back and make such an impact with that

770
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: program and then to see a lot of kids going

771
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: to college and stuff like.

772
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: That talk about how that makes you. Feel, oh, man it's.

773
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Great it's.

774
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: Everything, man it's twenty twenty three years. PLAYERS i started

775
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: that my rookie year and it's been.

776
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: Great.

777
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: Man we produced twenty FOUR nba, players nineteen dollars All,

778
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: americans thousands of kids went to. College and also on

779
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: the girls, SIDE i have a girl's a Program New

780
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: Jersey sparks and that's twenty two years and we have

781
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 4: six W nba, players so.

782
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 2: HARD i, mean that's that's what it's, about.

783
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: MAN i, mean get put in position where you're, blessed

784
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: and you, know you want to be able to help.

785
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: Others and you, know those programs definitely has done their.

786
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 4: Part and now we have a new. Program the players

787
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: is kind of. Done there's a new program Called New

788
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 4: Jersey scholars The, league which is you, know basically the same.

789
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: Thing ANOTHER ae, program NIKE e y B l. Program you,

790
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: know it's all about giving, back, Man it's all about giving.

791
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 4: Back and then Now i'm on the school board at

792
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: the school Called Pioneer academy And Wayne New jersey also

793
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 4: you know the basketball, operations so you, know we're going

794
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: to turn that thing into An East coast version Of

795
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: Mount verdie or i M g where we you, know

796
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: give these kids what they've been. Missing you know a

797
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 4: lot of times these kids they play au, ball they

798
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: get their rank and recognition and stuff like, that but

799
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: they really don't have.

800
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: The skill set to. Survive, yeah you know a lot

801
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: of kids go into.

802
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: It they really don't even hit the college floor, today

803
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: sophomore end of the sophomore, year junior. Year and these

804
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 4: are the same kids talking about they want to be.

805
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: Pros you, know so they have two years to try.

806
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: To get it. Done it's kind of.

807
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: Difficult so you, know we just want to prepare our

808
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: kids for when they touch the floor the freshman year

809
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 4: or go to.

810
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Campus they freshman, year they able to hit that floor

811
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: a little. Bit you.

812
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Know, yeah WHEN i was in high, school we played

813
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: against The Tim thomas. Players, YEAH i Had Tony yale

814
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: And Eddie.

815
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 5: Griffin you switch plays for y'all, too, RIGHT O? Jr

816
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 5: yeah j play For, yeah that's my young boy.

817
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: Easy, yeah your game is so. Dope you want my

818
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: favorite people to watch? Play like who instilled the game in?

819
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: You who you watch coming? Up like it was them

820
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: guys like, MAN i want to be like.

821
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: Them or growing up.

822
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: Man you, know early on ON tv at that particular,

823
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: time it was local you watched The knicks or The,

824
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: nets you, know whenever you.

825
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: Could but for the most part the national, games you

826
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: Watch magic And.

827
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: Bird so you, know being, tall being six,' nine i always,

828
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: you know wanted to be able to do all things on.

829
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: The court so, YOU know i watched a little bit, of, everybody, man,

830
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: honestly Everybody but pick was.

831
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: My, guy yeah was. My.

832
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: Guy yeah you know in high school When the bulls

833
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: came To The east coast Or On, New York, new jersey,

834
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 4: YOU know i was always, you know at. Those games

835
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 4: So when pitt came about and got on that, Superstar

836
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: status pitt was the guy.

837
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: For me but you was watching them all he Did,

838
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: every yeah because he. Did everything he, did everything.

839
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: You know but before the Pivot was magic and then

840
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: of course everybody watched j but you just want to

841
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: get that all. Around game and they also playing against

842
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: the older guys in, my town and you know in

843
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,479
Speaker 4: the parks and stuff. Like that that kind of helped

844
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: you because, you know on, the, playgrounds man you you

845
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: missed a shot or you miss, a layup or they, from,

846
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly so you.

847
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: Got to grow up real fast in, those.

848
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: Parks man that's what these kids don't really get. These days.

849
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: They don't have. A, clue man they don't have.

850
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: A club they tell.

851
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 5: Me this so like you didnet Made McDonald's All, American

852
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: games freshmen Of, The year Top ten, draft pick all

853
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 5: type of deals. And money but how did it feel

854
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 5: to have a street named after you and your hometown

855
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: and for the? Whole city you got, a day you

856
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 5: got the key to. The city you got a street

857
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 5: in your Hometown Named, Tim, thomas like how do?

858
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: That Feel? Bro it, it's, great man it's a.

859
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: Great hunter it's actually ON ELEVENTH haf i Lived On

860
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: eleventh aft twice, coming up and it's right in front

861
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 4: of my old.

862
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: High school so, you know it's just the history in

863
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: the area of. That building.

864
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: You know we had Guys Like, Kyle Henderson, daryl watkins

865
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: he Played, at syracuse played IN the nba for a.

866
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 4: Little Bit victor cruz came, Through There, stanley jackson he

867
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: Played At, ohio state and one of the fastest guys

868
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: Ever From, New Jersey. JASON ferry i forget what college he,

869
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: went to but he played With the chargers for a.

870
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: Few years AND.

871
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: Then, tj cummins who's actually still IN, the nba and

872
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 4: it's a couple other young fellas that played football.

873
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: As well but it's just a great.

874
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: HONAND man i mean from, my city you have Guys Like,

875
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: Ruben Hurricane, carter avocstello you, Know Myself. Larry dobie just

876
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 4: to be a part, of, that man it. Means everything

877
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: at all the.

878
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: Teams you, played for if you had to pick four, other,

879
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: players like from all, the teams if you have to

880
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: pick four other players, to play.

881
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: Four, other players, mm hmm four, other players.

882
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: All the teams you played with them all who are

883
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: the FOUR players i all know you?

884
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: Would pick.

885
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, All right i'm.

886
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: Gonna go i'm Gonna Go allen.

887
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: Allen at, The two steve at, THE one i put

888
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: myself at. The three, OH man I Put derrick coleman at.

889
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: The FOUR D, c yeah and at the, Five man

890
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: i'll probably go my tumble at.

891
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: The five, you, know, no, NO love i.

892
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: Got another this is Gonna.

893
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Be electricky It's start, bank's cut but one more kick

894
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: him out.

895
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: The league so it's just four players start kick?

896
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: Him out got kick him out? The league your name

897
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: of the players are you?

898
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: Named players? The Players Is, Durant lebron Bird. And, PIPP.

899
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: Oh i gotta, start one kick, one, out lead, start

900
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 4: one bench one.

901
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Cut one you was the, curve, Ball, right YEAH like.

902
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: I have To kick bird out. The league Don't.

903
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: Make Larry larry legend is getting listen to this, GO ahead,

904
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 5: i know but look at.

905
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: THE list.

906
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: I know THAT'S what. I said this is the predicament

907
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: he put, you, In right.

908
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have To kick bird out. The league i'm

909
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: Gonna start Lebron and i'm gonna have to BENCH. K

910
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: D and you're gonna have To. Cut pipp i'm gonna

911
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: have To. Cut pip.

912
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: You gotta make sure, You. Said burdie that's that's, going

913
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: off going off. Right now but no y'all. Flipping, Around

914
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: yeah i'm. FLIPPING around kd would probably be out the

915
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: league AND then i will Probably. Start, PITT yeah i

916
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 1: probably With bench.

917
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Bird, right yeah you.

918
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: Coming up you've just seen a lot, of basketball and

919
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: you've seen a lot of guys along, the way from

920
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: The twine walkers To the Kovich to Jermaine on hills

921
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: and you know when we go THROUGH this aau circling

922
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: and this whole high, school thing we see so many

923
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: guys and we see guys that we thought was gonna,

924
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: make it guys that did make or surprise us that. Make,

925
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: it like who was that guy? That was like when

926
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: you've seen him coming up and all, that stuff he

927
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: was just a. Walking bucket every time you. See him

928
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: it was just that.

929
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: Walking bucket my Guy, From Chicago.

930
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: Ronnie Feels ronnie feels was. Amazing man just the way

931
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: you know he played. The game it looked so. Easy

932
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: easy he had like that, grown manstring similar, to myself,

933
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: you know but all the guys in, our class but

934
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: he was just.

935
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Different MAN and i wish the accident would have.

936
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: NEVER happened i wish he would have been able to

937
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: showcase his talent in the ninety Six From Downs All

938
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: american game And That Magic. Groundball game he's a GUY

939
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: that i know, for sure if he would have been

940
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 4: able to lace him up in, our league he would

941
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 4: have really did. Some damage could you imagine Him And? Vince,

942
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: carter yeah, And yo.

943
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: I'm, telling you he was.

944
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 5: DEFINITELY going i feel like he was definitely going, straight

945
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 5: OUT and i feel like he definitely would have either

946
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: won or competed or put on a crazy show in

947
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: the dunk contact Because.

948
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 4: HE yeah, i mean you know when we was, coming up,

949
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: you know different high school showcases or even, you KNOW doing.

950
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: Aau time if it was certain guys that played, before

951
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: you you had to get to the gym and check.

952
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 4: Them OUT and i think we Was in Cincinnati and

953
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: ronnie was playing, before us and, you, know normally, you

954
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: know you don't like the when you walked in, the

955
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: gym you want to control.

956
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: The gym, you know had just swag and. All THAT

957
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 2: and i, was, LIKE no i got to Go See.

958
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: Ronnie man he put on the show, before us AND

959
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: then i capped. It off, But yeah Ronnie fields man

960
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: was definitely a guy that you had the opportunity to

961
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 4: go see, him play he would have definitely.

962
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: Been impressed so.

963
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: We were the same conference. As, HIM bro i was

964
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: in the same conferences and he was a year older. Than,

965
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 5: me yes he was older, Than ME but i got

966
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: this up close. And personal the boy gonna walk on

967
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 5: air telling. You levitate he Had The jordan jean like

968
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: he had the walk that man the lad. Out in

969
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 5: he wasn't, Six six that's what made. It crazy he

970
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: was like six three. Or Something and i'm talking about

971
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 5: man boy used to get up in The, air boy

972
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 5: Him and paul Mcpherston. In chicago they was the Levitators

973
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 5: them boy used.

974
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: To, fly yeah we was in a couple of.

975
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 4: Circuits together we didn't play against each other, that much

976
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: but we was always in the. Same area so, you

977
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: know guys, like that when you know they're on that

978
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: list and they're, right there let, me go let me

979
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 4: go shout a little bit and see what he got.

980
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 4: Going on but you work It, With yeah ronnie was.

981
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: Different man he could score the, ball, inside outside jump over.

982
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: You all that was strong enough to carry you.

983
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: As WELL so i could JUST, imagine q, you know

984
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: you having to go up against that man.

985
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: Straight UP when i, came out they was trying to

986
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: give me the credit of, oh man you the first

987
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: six to.

988
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: Nine guy to drive. The.

989
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Ball stuff but like, that TRULY like i tell everybody all,

990
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: the time, like man me seeing you play Or seeing

991
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: lamar old them Like tron walker was a guy who

992
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: dribbled the ball, of course piped with the point forward

993
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: and stuff.

994
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: Like that was the guy who kind of paid away.

995
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: For me you THINK that i can be six' nine

996
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: and dribble, and be fast and, You know what i'm

997
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: saying that actually can play on the wing, because you

998
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: know being, a big guy the first thing coming up,

999
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: in high school you the center of.

1000
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: The, POWER forward right i got somebody. Bigger than you you're.

1001
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: Gonna be powerfulard, but if not you're. GONNA play center

1002
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: i don't give how much, you. Can driven right You know.

1003
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: What i'm SAYING it's like i played center. DURING pro

1004
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: am i played on the wing. DURING high school.

1005
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: I PLAYED center when i got, TO the league i finally.

1006
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: PLAYED the three i. Been a coach You know. What

1007
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: i'm saying was that the same experience like kind, Of,

1008
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: for you no.

1009
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 4: Not for me, IN high school i pretty MUCH did

1010
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 4: what i wanted to do, in high.

1011
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: School everything everything.

1012
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: And you guys. COULD go On I am tim. Thomas

1013
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: the documentary check out. Some old clips i'm putting. The

1014
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: doc together but, in, HIGH school man i was all.

1015
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: OVER the place i, played you know one through five,

1016
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: in high school and, then you know my college decision

1017
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 4: basically came down to me being able to, play the

1018
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 4: three AND that's why I. Went to, nover you know going, into,

1019
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 4: THE league man, i, Was like look, i'm you know

1020
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: you know how you put it down either you go

1021
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: power forward or A, small ford nope, strictly small forward

1022
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: but no man, like you know playing in the greatest, Era,

1023
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: in nineties.

1024
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: Man you had a lot of guys that can. Handle the, ball,

1025
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: it's sixteen yeah you know.

1026
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: That live, shrength you know guys like that man that

1027
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: can shoot the ball and handle the ball, and you know.

1028
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: Get everybody involved so the game was changing at.

1029
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 4: That particular time but we blatched on at the perfect

1030
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: time because when YOU watch, the nba now you just

1031
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 4: see us and. All, all up yeah see, us six

1032
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: nine sixteen shooting threes and.

1033
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: Stuff like that so when You Look, at kevin durant

1034
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: because THAT'S basically some dna for You To see, kevin

1035
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: durant sixteen got rebel shooting.

1036
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: It, from, range long dunkey he.

1037
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: Do everything, he, post up right you guy like that

1038
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: play and knowing that's from this, that point FORWARD, Small,

1039
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: FORWARD dna like i remember his Rookie year, and, i'm

1040
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: like well, First Of all kevin durant is sevent let's.

1041
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: Stop saying, that he's right. THAT'S number one i remember.

1042
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: His rookie year man, playing Against him, and i'm, like, man, Like.

1043
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: Okay yeah i'm getting, a little older but he just

1044
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 4: reminded me so, much of, myself you. KNOW coming in

1045
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: i mean he wasn't as boat, and as strong but.

1046
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: Still set, wise i'm, like you know this guy is

1047
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: out on the, three point line.

1048
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: Just crossover after crossover.

1049
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: At, the crossover yeah it's still having his balance, and

1050
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: you know stuff together to be able to get a.

1051
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 4: Good shot off anytime you get a, good, shot off man,

1052
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: with that, hype you know it's almost a nine percent

1053
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: chance that.

1054
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: It's going in, but, it's great man when.

1055
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: You look at just the way the, game has changed,

1056
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: and you know knowing that you was a guy that

1057
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: was pretty much doing that at. AN early age I remember.

1058
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: MY milwaukee days i, was you, KNOW six man i was.

1059
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: The first sub it didn't.

1060
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Matter for.

1061
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: Who, matter who yeah and, like you said you, know

1062
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: earlier day you know playing again and, you know, shot

1063
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 4: you know having a guard shot, on one end and

1064
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 4: then you know having him guard me on, the other end,

1065
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: and you know being able to stretch the floor shoot

1066
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 4: threes or all around them or whatever the. Case may be, it.

1067
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: WAS everything man i remember playing. IN the playoffs i

1068
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 4: BELIEVE it was o one or maybe two Thousand, against

1069
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: the pacers and They had the davis, boys out there.

1070
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: Strong Man Big rick rick smith's, AND.

1071
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: You know i was just using my skills set and

1072
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 4: stuff to, get around, them you know my quickness handler

1073
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: and the ball and. Stuff like that so when you watch, the,

1074
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: game now man you see. All of, that you know,

1075
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 4: just six ten, six y, nine you know six, eleven seven, forts,

1076
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 4: you know handling.

1077
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Shooting, The ball man.

1078
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: It's amazing watching the last dance and everything that went.

1079
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 5: On with that what?

1080
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: Was, your takeaways like how did you?

1081
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: FEEL about, document i mean obviously we all loved it and,

1082
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 5: it was crazy but was it any like type of

1083
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 5: new information that you really didn't know or that you

1084
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 5: kind of knew or?

1085
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: Something like that just the END.

1086
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: SIGHT on mj i love all, of the stuff, the

1087
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: pregame stuff how he was kind of separate away from

1088
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: everybody else no matter where.

1089
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: HE was at i think.

1090
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: That was, amazing you know you get a chance to

1091
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: really get some insight on just the, beginning the game

1092
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: him wearing new shoes.

1093
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: Almost every game that's unheard.

1094
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: Of Back.

1095
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 7: Then, especially yeah yeah, like, BUT no man i mean

1096
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 7: just overall, it, was great man just to get some insight,

1097
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 7: on you know how he pushed the new players that

1098
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 7: never really won the championship and.

1099
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: Stuff LIKE that so i mean, it, was great man.

1100
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 5: It was great that was a little tripped out thing

1101
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 5: to see how like he would be like a different

1102
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: locker room or something like, What he had like what

1103
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 5: are you doing right.

1104
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 4: With the coffee and the security guys and everybody. Else

1105
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: somewhere else so it was. A, little different man he had,

1106
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: his own office.

1107
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: Like, like assistant, coaches, they say.

1108
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah and, then you know me being a formal ball

1109
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 4: just going back to my mind, a little bit trying

1110
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 4: to think about, the, locker, room like okay he that

1111
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: was his, room over here that's what he.

1112
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: Was, chilling AT.

1113
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 5: Yeah and i seen some people make tweets to play, with,

1114
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 5: were like man we ain't never pulled all the way

1115
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 5: up into the. Arena like that, THEN they said i

1116
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: had to look at the look at the red range

1117
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 5: and remember who that, Was.

1118
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: Doing, IT like.

1119
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 5: Okay i forgot he probably got a special little spot.

1120
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 6: In.

1121
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: That, somewhere yeah yeah it was only a few people

1122
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 4: that was allowed to pull.

1123
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: Up in, IT you know i wasn't allowed to put

1124
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: up pull, up.

1125
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 3: In there.

1126
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: Rain and they don't let you up in that jont you.

1127
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: Gotta park outside.

1128
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: Tell me about your.

1129
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 5: DOCUMENTARY you're, doing I mean obviously i know about it

1130
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 5: because WE talk and i follow you on on on social.

1131
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 5: Media and stuff but tell me about what you're Doing

1132
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 5: With your. TIM thomas documentary us as former.

1133
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: Players, and retired, players you know the young younger.

1134
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 4: Generation don't really get a chance to really grasp what,

1135
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 4: you you know what you. Was back then so it's

1136
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 4: just basically just trying to, show the, kids YOU know

1137
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 4: how i Grew up and patterson a SMALL town that i,

1138
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: grew Up in pat us AND all.

1139
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: Obstacles i had, to go, through you know in.

1140
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: The early, eighties of course Everybody watched that lean ON

1141
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: me and i grew, up right there like literally in

1142
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 4: that same block when the, crack era hit you. Know

1143
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: THAT stuff, so i mean it's, just you, know my

1144
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: story and then also, showing you know the basketball side

1145
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: of it with Being that passing catholic and just to

1146
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: growth throughout the years we're, going to, college you KNOW,

1147
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: in the nba, and you know it's just some of

1148
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 4: the things that, happened to, me you know throughout my

1149
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: life in the middle of my life of playing and.

1150
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: Stuff like that so it's, a typical documentary but it's

1151
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 4: just my life is not anyone else's.

1152
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Coming from where. We come from, the first day, we'd,

1153
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: BE like nah i take this. TO the grave i

1154
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: don't got to say. NOTHING about nothing i. Bring nothing

1155
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: up but now we're in the, era That man and

1156
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: i'm OLDER now and i. Got kids, now, IT'S like

1157
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: man i want to. TELL my story i want To hear.

1158
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: TIM timons story i want to hear this person's stories.

1159
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: Like with the day and as now and it feels

1160
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: so good to kind, of release that let it get.

1161
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: Out your mind that was one of the THINGS, doing

1162
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: with tvt doing with the article or.

1163
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Even doing THIS one thing i love about our podcast and. What,

1164
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: we're doing man we get to be fans of guys

1165
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: that man we admired and, we appreciate it and some

1166
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: guys don't even know that we even. Felt this, way

1167
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: you know When we played i'm not GONNA tell you.

1168
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: I, fuck yeah yeah You know. What i'm saying i'm Not.

1169
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: Saying, the, i'm like man big my, guy like, like

1170
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: oh man they got Mace.

1171
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: Over that ben You know.

1172
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: What i'm saying.

1173
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: You see them but it's like when you get. On

1174
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: that court you can't give. Them no love you. Gotta

1175
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: show that i'm just glad to even be on the

1176
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: platform LIKE this where i can give players like you

1177
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: and all THE players that i grew. Up in MIND

1178
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: even when, I was playing i was admiring for them

1179
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: for to Tell, THEM like man i thought you was

1180
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: just one.

1181
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: Of the dopest, we.

1182
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: Appreciate it man we all appreciate it man. As, FORMER

1183
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 4: players man i definitely love what you. Guys, are doing

1184
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: Man you know i've been tuned that.

1185
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: THE.

1186
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 5: Money, question, q oh YEAH that's. What i, got, no

1187
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: big big big. Pockets, Over here man when you first,

1188
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 5: got the bag.

1189
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: What? Did you do you.

1190
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 5: Know how we all did something where, IT was like

1191
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 5: i don't know if it, was a whip if there,

1192
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 5: was some jelly or it could. Have been both what

1193
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 5: did you do when you? Got the bag and then

1194
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 5: but also, with That question, if i'm correct you didn't

1195
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 5: have the rookie scale when, you, Came in right OUR.

1196
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 4: Scale was i think it was. A, five year yeah

1197
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 4: it was like, a five year but it was definitely a.

1198
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 5: LIMIT on it. I, Don't know okay so you came

1199
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 5: in after they had put the. Lemony, in, there okay yeah.

1200
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: You missed.

1201
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 5: About one year and you missed about one Year though

1202
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 5: because jayo.

1203
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: Was in it jayo.

1204
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: Got the whatever jo went, to the lead right and.

1205
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 5: So him and kobe you Missed it bout oh you missed.

1206
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: About one Year, The, big.

1207
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 6: Dog Yeah okay big.

1208
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 5: Dog killed, it but yeah so so so what so

1209
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 5: what did you do when you Got?

1210
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: The, bag MAN actually when i first signed, with my

1211
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: agent the VERY first, thing I got and i still was,

1212
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: IN the.

1213
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: Hood i Got the big body. THAT'S six hundred i.

1214
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 4: Had a car sitting outside, of my house our apartment

1215
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 4: at work than we had.

1216
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: In the bank so that was that was.

1217
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: The FIRST thing once i really got my hands on.

1218
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 4: My actual money the first thing that they was taking care.

1219
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: OF my moms i, got her house got her. Situated

1220
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: and everything but that was the. First two things big.

1221
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: That, big body yeah.

1222
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: To pay my agent Back For, the big BODY and

1223
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: then i got my, moms you know. Got, her situated

1224
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: yeah black, on black too that's how we like. IT

1225
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: right there.

1226
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, that was.

1227
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: Coming like. The batmob.

1228
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: Everything you just made his, millennium, right now bro.

1229
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: This. He im black you need? Anything right anytime you

1230
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: getting on you doing the rest of your. Your podcast

1231
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: series just let.

1232
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 4: Them know YOU'RE GONNA call t t and up, all

1233
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 4: black everything.

1234
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: All, black everything.

1235
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 3: Boy it's, hilarious hey man. That's, a wrap man.

1236
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 5: It's been real we've been CHILLING with our o G,

1237
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 5: our Big Homie The. New jersey Legend We got tim

1238
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 5: thomas in the.

1239
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: Building. With us man we appreciate you bro.

1240
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: All, the time man it's, always love fellas. My young, fellas, yes.

1241
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: Sir yes sir thank you for not acting, Ass. Right there.

1242
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: Darius that's cool.

1243
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: You got, to, beat YOURSELF man because i always see

1244
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: you acting ass. When, you listen indeed, when you act

1245
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: the ass is For us, WITH dskin.

1246
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Brothers i have to check these ice, Can't cast MAN

1247
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: you know.

1248
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 3: I never man shaking My head because i'm not. Like

1249
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: light skinned, but all right you.

1250
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: Need another about two months, in, the pool.

1251
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: Man get outside don't getting no tank getting out of

1252
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: because he go outside at six, Pm.

1253
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: Like me.

1254
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 5: I'm not going. Into the sun i'm Gonna tell you

1255
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 5: i'm not going. Into the sun i'm telling.

1256
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 4: You.

1257
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 6: That Now Yeah the Players tribute dot com