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Speaker 1: Better Up.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Nobuns here on the Athletic Podcast Network. First up,

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Speaker 2: it's the man hitting leading off. It's Joel McMillan, all

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Speaker 2: the way from Taiwan here in the building in Atlanta. Joel,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming.

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Speaker 1: Man, I made it. It's feels good to be home.

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Speaker 1: Feels good to be home, feels good to see you

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Speaker 1: guys in person. Yeah, set it through a computer screen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the man hitting second, because he's the best

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Speaker 2: hitter of us all, it's JD producing.

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Speaker 3: This magic Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello. And hitting third, it's me Tassels me loss.

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Speaker 2: I just had a flashback because I say me lost,

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Speaker 2: because I had a flashback of the one time I

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Speaker 2: was announced in a baseball stadium. It was a Utica game,

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Speaker 2: New York. Okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they had the ball

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Speaker 2: team back then.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I think they were called the Utica Marlins. I think

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Speaker 2: I came off the bench and he pronounced it Tassos

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Speaker 2: me loss. Or it could have been a Tasauce me

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Speaker 2: loss Centers. It could have been both wrong names. But

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Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter. Coming up

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Speaker 2: on this show, we will debate the most impressive feats

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, like Judge going first third fifty

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Speaker 2: home run season or the forty forty club for show Hey,

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Speaker 2: which is amazing. I choose your own adventure Toronto Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays addition, got to that you want to take us through.

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Speaker 2: But first it's the Oakland Coliseum and your experience there

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Speaker 2: because you wanted to get there before all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden done, because you've gone to many many baseball saves.

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Speaker 2: What number is this?

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Speaker 1: I think I'll beat it around. I'm around twenty. I'm

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Speaker 1: hovering around twenty plus or minus one. But yeah, obviously

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Speaker 1: you know this was the last This is the last

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Speaker 1: year for Oakland fifty seven seasons. Fifty seven seasons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I was not going to get another chance to

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Speaker 1: do it, so I didn't come home last year. So

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, got to make the trip in.

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Speaker 1: But it was everything that I kind of thought it

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Speaker 1: would be. The stadium is very weathered, not a lot

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Speaker 1: of upkeep on the Oakland Coliseum. We had a couple

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Speaker 1: of photos here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're watching us on YouTube, this is the

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Speaker 2: parking lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is this is actually from the bart

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Speaker 1: Okay bart Stations rap. So I took this kind of

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Speaker 1: from the platform. Yeah, and that's what you see when

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Speaker 1: you get off the bart station. There not the prettiest view.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of work being done. It

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Speaker 2: feels like it feels like almost like they're building a

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Speaker 2: new stadium, which is not happening because Oakland will not

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Speaker 2: be housing a baseball team following this season unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Not. Yeah, so it's just I mean it's convenient, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, you get inside the stadium and

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Speaker 1: I mean that looks beautiful to me. It's very lush,

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Speaker 1: it's very green. You've got that. It was a beautiful day.

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Speaker 1: It was a typical Bay Area day. Cold. That's some

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Speaker 1: cool at some points, you know, the others there's Mount

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day for baseball really, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: The views of the hills are gone, are they not.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's views of the hills. You could see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's kind of like these two site lines in

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Speaker 1: I feel the stadium looks different like watching it in

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Speaker 2: You were disappointed with the dogs?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually kind of messed up. So they did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind that, I gotta say selfishly, I like,

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Speaker 1: Right, It was different. You know, it's different, you know

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Speaker 1: different experience, but it was you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful day. And the fans that are.

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Speaker 2: There, yes, love the A's because you talked to many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm going to post that on our social

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Speaker 1: media account in a couple of days. A lot of

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Speaker 1: something up. But yeah, talk to the fans. They this

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Speaker 1: hurts them. Oh, you know, like this hurts them, and

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Speaker 1: you you know, talking to them, you really realize how

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Speaker 1: big of a part of the community the A's were

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Speaker 1: through no fault of their own, they're losing this team

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Speaker 1: and it's very frustrating. When I talked to fans, I

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Speaker 1: you know, that's been covered enough and talked about enough.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you're an Oakland sports fan, you've

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Speaker 1: now lost three teams in what five years? The Warriors

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Speaker 1: now the A's I don't really know where they're going Vegas.

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Speaker 2: But they're emulating that Raiders move. They are supposed to

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Speaker 2: go to Vegas. The next three years, they will be

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Speaker 2: in Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so that's that's an option for the fourth

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Speaker 2: like a sports contract. It's three years with an option

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Speaker 2: for a fourth to stay in Sacramento to play in

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Speaker 2: Sacramento river Cats, which apparently has gone under a lot

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Speaker 2: of renovations to meet MLB standards, but they'll be playing there.

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Speaker 2: It's also owned by Vivekronodive, the same owner of the

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Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings Sacramento. It's not a real dissimilar situation than Oakland,

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Speaker 2: you know, like they don't have a lot of teams

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Speaker 2: as you said there, so it is. Yeah, it must

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Speaker 2: be extremely troubling for everybody in the building. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: there's still the dieharts. Like I know, I've been reading

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Speaker 2: Frisbee on the Athletic. Who covers this, who's from the

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Speaker 2: San Francis Who comes along? Who wants to see this

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Speaker 2: as the years have gone on, the numbers have dwindled

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Speaker 2: in terms of attendance because, yeah, I know what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're constantly just shedding their best players. I mean

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Speaker 1: I get it from a fan perspective. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: But like I said, the fans that were there, they're

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Speaker 1: they're chanting, they're cheering, like they were really really into it.

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Speaker 1: There weren't many, you know, we were at a day

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Speaker 1: selfish sure, you know they've been They've been a constant,

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Speaker 1: great baseball experience. I'm glad I went. It's just really sad,

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Speaker 1: And I hope whatever is in store for the Oakland A's,

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Speaker 1: I hope it's the best possible outcome. But I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you're saying that because it's not entirely

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Speaker 2: inevitable that they go to Vegas. Sure, it sure appears

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Speaker 2: as we said about the Sacramento situation, they're going to

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Speaker 2: called the Sacramento A's. That appears to be what's happening

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Speaker 2: and the athletics, no city involved at this point for

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Speaker 2: That's a very long stay in Sacramento. Yeah that four years, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: three or four years, and who knows. We say that

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Speaker 2: now it could be longer. But this, as you know,

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Speaker 2: was it something you needed to do? Something you'll remember?

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Speaker 2: What will you remember the stadium by expensive hot dogs

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I read this correctly, the Oakland A's have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really I don't get it. We will. I remember.

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Speaker 1: I think just the day, like getting to watch you know,

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Speaker 1: I wish I could go back again, really to be honest,

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Speaker 1: because like I said, even though the stadium is old,

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Speaker 1: I enjoy those two. But Oakland, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: think we talked about this in one of our old

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Speaker 1: podcasts and this is not mine. I've seen this written before,

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Speaker 1: but it's Baseball's last dive bar, and I feel that's

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Speaker 1: like a perfect description of of what the Oakland Coliseum is.

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Speaker 1: And there's a ton of history there, and not just

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do with this site, you know.

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Speaker 1: And even like as a JS fan, you know, one

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Speaker 2: It's sad, and those fans showed it. The ones you

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to bring a baseball team to Nashville

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Speaker 1: So that would probably be my rush more of A's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy Catch, Billy Gotch And the nickname I just

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Speaker 2: Let's get to a little choose your own adventure Blue

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Speaker 1: They've already stated publicly they want to be competitive next year.

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Speaker 2: highly important from the bleacher creatures, the stream team. I

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that either.

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Speaker 1: start exactly, and no Tani was that and you know

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00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: we know the Jays pursued him. They didn't get him.

430
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: So with Vlatti, it's it's of course it's a baseball thing,

431
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: but it's also like a marketing thing. It's a business thing,

432
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 1: like it's not just on the field. So they need

433
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: to figure out what they're gonna do with Vlatti this,

434
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, this offseason. I think they're gonna do whatever

435
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: they can to re sign him. But if they if

436
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: they don't re sign him after twenty twenty five like Bo,

437
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: and my opinion's gone, and I think they need to

438
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: trade him because Bo's not gonna stay. You know, Bo's

439
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: been very quiet, I think, but to me, no matter what,

440
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: he's not going to stay. I would be stunned, and

441
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: to be honest, asked, I don't want to sign Bo.

442
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: He's a below average defender. When he doesn't hit, he

443
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: has he's he's a detriment to the team. And you

444
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 1: know this year, I know he struggled with injury. This

445
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: is not the true bobashit. But when Bo doesn't hit,

446
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: he has no value and he's going to be and

447
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: he plays a premium position. Do I, as a Jays fan,

448
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: want Toronto to hand out, you know, a two or

449
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollar contract to a guy like that

450
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: absolutely not because those resources can be better spent. And

451
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: also to the Jays have a very highly touted prospect.

452
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: He's only eighteen, but he's tearing it up in the

453
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: minors rum Najala. I could totally be botching that name

454
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: or remember it in correctly, but highly touted prospect. He's

455
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: only eighteen, but he's in I think a ball right now.

456
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: He's doing very well. So again like he's a couple

457
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: of years away, but the Jays really like it can

458
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: go a lot of different ways for them at this point.

459
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: But I don't see them being competitive next year, so

460
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: as a fan, I kind of want to see them.

461
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: How quickly can they be competitive. I don't think they

462
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: should do a rebuild if they can sign Voddie, obviously

463
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: they need to build around him. But I guess the

464
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: silver lining is after twenty twenty five, they don't have

465
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: a lot of committed money right so they can go

466
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: out and they can kind of buy their way out

467
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: of these problems, similar to what Texas. You know, the

468
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: Rangers did a couple years ago. They went out and

469
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: spent big at free agency and they won a World Series. Now,

470
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: obviously they had some good young players coming up. It

471
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: wasn't that easy. But the js I feel need to

472
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: do something in that vein because the help is not

473
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Speaker 1: it's not coming internally.

474
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to be that way. It seems to

475
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: be culminating in this disaster here in the Bishet Guerrero era,

476
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Speaker 2: which is coming to an end in twenty twenty five,

477
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: right in terms of contracts, but the way things are

478
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: going on Bobachhet side especially, it's very odd to see

479
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: him play this poorly Yea hitting wise and the Vladi

480
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: rough start this season, but obviously he's he's come on

481
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: extremely hot. He's hitting three twenty one now, just behind

482
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: Bobby Witt and Aaron Judge in the AL. He's had

483
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: to still start hitting homering the ball hit in April

484
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: and May. He only had five homers through May and

485
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: now he's at twenty seven. So he's doing his thing.

486
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: But it's just all coming to it just seems because

487
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: the whole vision of Bobaschet and Vlady Guerrero was going

488
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: to be this solid offense at some point, the cornerstones

489
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: the corner stones, and it obviously hasn't been that. There's

490
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: been as we've talked about, some playoff appearances, but it

491
00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 2: seems like it's just declining now and happens as they

492
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: sell here at the trade deadline. Although it's nice to see,

493
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: you say, Kakucci doing his thing with the Astros, y,

494
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: it's great, I Will Wagner. Yeah, he's great in exchange

495
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: from the Astros, But I say great all that to say,

496
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: it's just not all coming together at the same time. Yeah,

497
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: even though it seemed like it was destined to be

498
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: with those two cornerstones.

499
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was kind of I don't think anyone had

500
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: this on their twenty twenty four Tronto Blue Jays Bengo card.

501
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: But really, like this is worst case scenario, you know,

502
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: because it really kind of muddies the waters in terms

503
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: of what they want to do in the future, Like

504
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: they need to make a decision on Vladdie, but again,

505
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to reset, and then like

506
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: why would he. I don't know what Vladdie's contract looks

507
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: like in free agency. I mean, he's very young. I

508
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it starts with a three or a four.

509
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: I think a comparable contract would maybe be Raphael Divers,

510
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: who's making it. I think like three hundred and twenty

511
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: five million similar age, but Devers plays a third base.

512
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: He's improved his defense greatly. That's the thing, Like if

513
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: Vladdie kind of like Vladdy's interesting because he's had an

514
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: MVP season. He's had a couple okay seasons, he had

515
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: a slow start to this season, and now he's been

516
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: killing it. So it's kind of hard to like get

517
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: an accurate handle on like who is he, you know,

518
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: like is this the real Vladdie or is that the

519
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: real Laddie? Like we don't really know. But I still

520
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: think he's gonna gets at a minimum he's I think

521
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: his floor is probably got three hundred and fifty million dollars,

522
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: but I could see that going up to four. If

523
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: he goes out next year and has a season like

524
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: this but over one hundred and sixty two games, I

525
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: think it'll easily start with a four.

526
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: And it definitely feels like the Jays will give him

527
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: the offer for whether it's close to that. But a

528
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: lot of it m because, as you said, is a

529
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: city that's driven by stars in terms of baseball, and

530
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: they just don't have one other exactly otherwise. It's there's

531
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: just a drop off big time in terms of anybody

532
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: on the field other than some some hopes in the

533
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: minor leagues.

534
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, like they they need, Like Vladdie

535
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: is important for reasons beyond what he does on the field,

536
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Like he he sells tickets, he sells merchandise, like he's

537
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: a recognizable face. But you know, do they get him?

538
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, test I mean, like, you know,

539
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: Toronto has definitely spent like Rogers, the ownership has spent

540
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: more money since twenty fifteen. So I'm not going to

541
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: be critical of Rogers. They the money has been there,

542
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: But when it comes to signing individual players, this is

543
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: new for Toronto. Like they're not in the New York

544
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: LA you know, Boston club board. They're signing guys to

545
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: ten years, three hundred plus million. Our biggest contract in

546
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: franchise history was Springer and I forget the terms, but

547
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: it was you know, six years, seven years, whatever, and

548
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: I think it was like one hundred and thirty five

549
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: hundred and forty million. It's been our biggest contra sign

550
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: so far as a franchise. Vladdy is going to get

551
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: exponentially more money than that. But also take a look

552
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: at it too. Vladdie was signed as an international free agent,

553
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: but he has been in the j system his entire time.

554
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: There's been very few players that Toronto's drafted like has

555
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: come up and like we've developed. There's very very few,

556
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: and it's important to have guys like that. So hopefully,

557
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: like I'm I hope we get a deal done with

558
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: Latti because if not, I mean you're looking at some

559
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: lean years. They're gonna it'll be a total rebuild.

560
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: And I sure hope Bo just gets back to himself

561
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: somewhat because it's odd.

562
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: I do too, This is odd.

563
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: It's just very odd.

564
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: He's had calf like I think he had calf injuries

565
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: even at the end of last year. But I just

566
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't like Bo's offensive makeup. I don't think he's

567
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna age well, like once his bat speed slows down,

568
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: like he doesn't walk at all. So it's, yeah, like

569
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: it it gets pretty ugly once that bat goes. Do

570
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: you want to be the team left holding the bag

571
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: on that? You know, because he's he could be dead money,

572
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: you know, fairly quickly. So I think Bo's gone. And really, like,

573
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, I feel that Dodgers are a

574
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: great trade partner. For the Blue Jays in the offseason.

575
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: They need a shortstop. Gavin Lux has played a lot

576
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: better in the second half. I'll give him that. He

577
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: at a slow start, But I think Elle and and

578
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Bo's signed next year too. He signed a two year

579
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: deal and he's it's a I feel like it's a

580
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: very team friendly deals for like sixteen seventeen million. So

581
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: I think the Dodgers make a great trade partner for

582
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays if the Jays do decide to explore

583
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: that avenue and trade Bashette and I think they will

584
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: because it makes sense and they and really, to be honest,

585
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean Bo's been out. Since Bo's been out, the

586
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: Jays have played better. I'm you know, he's the I don't.

587
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: They kind of rotate at shortstop. They've tried different guys there,

588
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: but they're winning more games than the offense is better.

589
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, the management, you know, an ownership,

590
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: is going to take that into consideration. But yeah, I don't.

591
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 1: I logically it doesn't make sense to keep Bo.

592
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: Who would be coming back. You don't have to go

593
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: too deep at it.

594
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: Well, I would want Gavin Lux back, for sure. I

595
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: would want Gavin Lux and I would probably want, like

596
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: if you're trading Bow his value again, like you're trading

597
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: probably at his lowest value, but his body of work

598
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: is good enough where I think you could get lux

599
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: and another top end prospect and maybe like another lower one.

600
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, the Dodgers farm system is so good,

601
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot, you know, and we've traded with them before,

602
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: so it just, yeah, like it doesn't make sense in

603
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: the short term and also kind of the long term

604
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: because the value you're going to get back because if

605
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: bo leaves in free agency, just get a compick and like,

606
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really think there's a lot of

607
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: value in that. I think if they move him now,

608
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: they get more value for him now obviously or in

609
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: the off season.

610
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Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, let's start in the page. Let's get a

611
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: little happier than these sad days. Well before we get

612
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: to that, just quickly, we've got the bleacher creatures commenting

613
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: on days. It's nickname. First, the person who said the

614
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: Governator was joking, so that must have been a Schwarzenegger.

615
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: But this one here, Dave Stewart was always just called

616
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 2: Stu from Calculating the Most Humble and I don't remember

617
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: a nickname.

618
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I remember nickname. I remember an smoke.

619
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Speaker 2: That's all I see. Baseball Reference must be pretty good

620
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: with having nicknames, right because all they had is smoke. Anyway,

621
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: moving on, Okay, we've done enough, but let's get to

622
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: the most impressive feats in twenty twenty four because there

623
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: have been some great ones, and we're gonna stay with

624
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: one that's happened recently in a couple different ways. So

625
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: let's go through this one. Joel, you make the call here.

626
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: What do you think is more impressive Aaron Judge hitting

627
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: fifty homers for the third time in his career, or

628
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: show Hao Tiny joining the forty forty club show Hey,

629
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: who saw this coming? Nobody? So which one's more impressive?

630
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Because they're both obviously incredibly impressive.

631
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really had to give this one a thing.

632
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: TESTS had to give this had to put the drinking

633
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: cap on for this one. I'm gonna go Otani interest

634
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: just simply because when his career is over, in his

635
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: body of work, he'll be a picture and he'll have

636
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: a forty forty season that's insane Like that is just

637
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think we'll ever see that, right,

638
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, or if we do, won't be in my lifetime.

639
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: What Judges, what Judge not?

640
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna be run for a while.

641
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean a picture, a picture putting up

642
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: a forty forty season? You really you think? Okay, that's why.

643
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: This is the most surprising. And that's why it's just

644
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: in terms of facts. That's why you go with sho

645
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: heo tany because it hasn't been done.

646
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: That's a thing, like, it hasn't been done. There's no

647
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: precedent for this. What you know, Judge is having another

648
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: crazy season. He's I would probably say he's the favorite

649
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: to win MVP right now. But don't sleep on Bobby

650
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: Wood Junior. Don't sleep on Bobbywood Junior.

651
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: But Judge is the favorite.

652
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: But Judge is the favorite. Yeah, why did I pick Otani? Yeah,

653
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: simply just because like there's no precedent for this. You know,

654
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: Judge is could possibly he's on pace for sixty home runs.

655
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: They get close, getting close to breaking his record. Yeah,

656
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: he's sat in the AL Yeah x two.

657
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: This would put him one season behind Sammy Sosa for

658
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: most sixty home run seasons, which is three. You know,

659
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: and Judge's already in very, very impressive company. But Otani, well.

660
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: McGuire did had the sixty as well, with three sixty seasons. Multiple,

661
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: he had multiple, Yeah, he had two. Yeah, there's only

662
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: two players that had three. There's only two players that

663
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: have had multiple sixty homer seasons right right, Sosa, McGuire

664
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: and Otani.

665
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Is even he could get in the fifty to fifty club.

666
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how realistic that is right now, he's

667
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: got forty home runs and forty stolen bases, but he's

668
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna get close.

669
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: Even the forty five to forty five club, which he

670
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 2: could get to. Yeah, that's never been done, Yeah, exactly.

671
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, so he's probably gonna be the first player

672
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: in MLB history now that the National League utilizes the DH,

673
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: he's going to be the first DH to win MVP,

674
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: which again will just be something that, you know, another

675
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: feather in his cap of like this has never been

676
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: done before, This has never been done before. But yeah,

677
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: for me, what's more impressive Again, Like, we're as a

678
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: baseball fan, we're spoiled at the moment right now, We're

679
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: seeing two unbelievable players doing, you know, amazing things. But

680
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: for me, it's the Otani forty forty club and he

681
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: joined it. I'm just like, he got the stolen base

682
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: and the home run on the same night or in

683
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: the same game. Oh yes, a walk off grand slam,

684
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: log off grand Slam. Yeah yeah.

685
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: And so I had to look this up because see

686
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: Tawny steal forty bases. It just kind of bottled my

687
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 2: mind because he's obviously nimble and fast, but I didn't

688
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: think he got anywhere close and twenty six was his highest,

689
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: which is still a very good number. But now getting

690
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: up to forty apparently, you know, from the Dodgers' coaching staff,

691
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: they said that he can concentrate a little bit more

692
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: on stealing bases because he doesn't have to pitch. He's

693
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: just on that side of the field, and so I

694
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: suppose that's helped him. But it is remarkable to be

695
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: able to do that, and to be the guy who

696
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: did it in the fastest amount of games one hundred

697
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: and twenty six. It's never been done. And he's obviously

698
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: gotten on the hill this weekend for the first time

699
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: since his surgery last September, so that bodes well. It

700
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: just as you said, we are in a lucky time

701
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: because we were talking about the forty forty club last

702
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: year when we were doing the Snowbawns episode. Uh, I

703
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: think there's a chance that a coon you could do it.

704
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: We've talked about it numerous times and he did it. Yeah,

705
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: but that was the first time in twenty four seasons

706
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: were we've seen what or Soriano had one, the only

707
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: one for the last twenty four seasons before last year,

708
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: and now we've had him back to back years. So

709
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: it's Conseko bonds with Rodriguez Soriano and then Akunya Otani

710
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: and Aaron Judge is just awesome in centerfield. Yeah, did

711
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: you see the cash yesterday? I know you're here doing

712
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: your thing here in Atlanta, so you may not have

713
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: seen it. I did not what you did.

714
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: I did. I did see the catch last night.

715
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know up against the wall. You don't

716
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: think of Aaron Judge like that. He's just he's always

717
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: the headlines and all the highlights are at the plate.

718
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. He's not really known as a great defender.

719
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: You're certainly not a bad defender, but yeah, I mean,

720
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: and it's like what Otanian Judge like, they're just so

721
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: consistently good. I don't think people really are going to

722
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: truly appreciate it until after they've kind of left the game,

723
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, they because they just do it

724
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: so consistently. It's like you're like, oh, Otani's going to

725
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: be in the forty forty club, which is amazing, But

726
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: I don't really think it'll kind of hit home until, like,

727
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: you know, their body of work is done. It's like,

728
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, those guys did that. You know, it's

729
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: pretty crazy to see.

730
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to go through Judges stats quickly, here, the

731
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: three players that have four fifty home run seasons are Babe,

732
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: Ruth McGuire, and Sosa. This is his third and he's

733
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: tied a rod with his third fifty home run season,

734
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: so he is up some serious classic.

735
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in some elite company.

736
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Judge and Rodriguez three fifty home run seasons

737
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: and then there's been four fifty home run seasons. Babe,

738
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: it was a different time, and then McGuire and so

739
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: also a different time. As you said, yeah, that man

740
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: is not in the hall. Yeah, the first one. But

741
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: I see that plaque and I think, okay, that's Cooper's

742
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: stat because i've seen them in Cooper's Down. Yeah it's

743
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: been there, but I didn't. I don't remember the McGuire

744
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: one being you know, in a tight corner like, oh yeah,

745
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: we cherish this guy in a different way. But no,

746
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: that doesn't have up in Coopers Have you been to

747
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: Cooper Stain?

748
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: I have.

749
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad took us on a family trip back in

750
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: junior high school. Got a couple of photos. Yeah, it's

751
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great to visit. I haven't been in forever.

752
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: I would love to go back, but yeah, it's a

753
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: fun time.

754
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: It definitely was. And I like the Oma Gang Brewery

755
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: in Cooperston. Also, probably wasn't there when you were a kid,

756
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: because I would.

757
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: We skipped that one.

758
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one, all right? Second one here the most

759
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: impressive feeds here. This is this is a different one.

760
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: But is it a ball going through the scoreboard because

761
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: Josel Tuve put one through the scoreboard in mid Made

762
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: Park or is it a ball breaking a scoreboard as

763
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: you're done alverd Orres did in Tampa. He broke the thing,

764
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: which was larious or we had a wedgie. Also in Houston,

765
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 2: Shay Whitcombe put one directly into a fence. It's a

766
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: meta metal wiring type of fence where just wedged in

767
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: for a ground world double. That's impressive stuff. So we

768
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: got al two breaking that perfect spot in a scoreboard.

769
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: You're done breaking a scoreboard, and Aggie.

770
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to go out to a hitting the ball

771
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: through the scoreboard because it's a small target. You know,

772
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a small target. Wedgies are rare, but

773
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: they've been done, like balls have been lodged in the

774
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: padding and things like that. Yeah, and Alvarez like the

775
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: scoreboard is a massive target. So he just again like

776
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: it's impressive. And for him, you know, to break the scoreboard,

777
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to see. But for me, I gotta

778
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: go out too a just because it's such a small target.

779
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: But it just went boom right through.

780
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: And there was a great photo of the guy who

781
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: worked the scoreboard just getting through there, getting his little

782
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: face through there. Yeah, which his head out, which was

783
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: a perfect fit. Yeah, the shay Whitcomb hitting a wedgie

784
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: shade wit honeycomb. Anyways, looking for some there he hit

785
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: that WEGGI perfectly. No, it's not as impressive the're don Alvarez.

786
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't during a game.

787
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was batting.

788
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: That was BP. Not as good the one in Houston,

789
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: the old school type of scoreboard where it went through,

790
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: as you said, Jose Altuve doing it as well, you know,

791
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: the the home team guy that that's it for me.

792
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: There's there's too many elements there that can't be it

793
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: can't be beat.

794
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: I didn't realize all of these guys are Astros players.

795
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: Now they're totally dawning on me. Alvarez, Al two and yeah,

796
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: al Astros, all astros, especially you're in Houston especially, here's

797
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot of snighting has happened.

798
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. Uh, and I got to

799
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: get back. I'm just locked in here on people chiming

800
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: in on Dave Stewart's nickname. I got another D Smoker.

801
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Now Smoker.

802
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: He's probably just joking D Smoker. No one ever called

803
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: him D Smoker. Uh, Hootski chiming in with fun fact

804
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: Bobby Witch has had an absolutely insane twenty five games stretch,

805
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: hitting over five hundred with ops of one point four

806
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: one zero and.

807
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: Just really just to kind of piggyback off that the

808
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: Royals are one game behind the Guardians for first place.

809
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy. I was talking about this

810
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: with you know, Grisham and Skeets last night. You know,

811
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: we got it, got a new bit of a heated

812
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: sports debate. Too bad you weren't there, tasty, but you.

813
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: Know it was the heated sports of it.

814
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: We covered a variety of sports. I won't get it.

815
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I won't get into it.

816
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: We just around table.

817
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: We covered what were many topics.

818
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't hey, we were going to catch the Guardians.

819
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: No, we not had that, but we were. I think

820
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: the debate was something like in terms of like a

821
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: single player having the biggest impact on the game, what

822
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: were kind of the four sports? And they had baseball

823
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: as for I disagree because they did. I think it

824
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: was basketball, ice hockey, the four major sports, Basketball, ice hockey,

825
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: football like NFL, and then baseball. They were like, well

826
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: quarterback is more important than a Sure, you know we

827
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: got into we got into a bit of a debate.

828
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: But I said, Bobby.

829
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: Wood Junior, here's a debate. Why not include you know, soccer.

830
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: I know the four major sports are the four major sports,

831
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: but what about one person's I just contribution in soccer.

832
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Cas is going to be totally transparent. I don't know

833
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: anything about soccer. You know Superstars, Lionel Messi, Yeah, Tony Mayola,

834
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: Tony Mayola who played for USA Soccer. I just remember

835
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: we had a Super Nintendo game. I rented it. A

836
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: couple of heads.

837
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: No idea who that is?

838
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Rinaldo?

839
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much both of them.

840
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: Isn't there one in Brazil? One from Portugal?

841
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: There's been many from U from Brazil.

842
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: Well, we can include soccer, but test I didn't know

843
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: anything with soccer. But but tying it back to Baya Junior,

844
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean the Royals were terrible last year. You know,

845
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: they had a bad farm system. And again, like baseball,

846
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: there's twenty five players on the team and now so

847
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: I think twenty six now. But I mean he's having

848
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: an insane season. It obviously it's going to core late

849
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: with the Royals having a much better year. Yeah, I

850
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: know the Royals have good pitching. You know, they've got

851
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: some good young players. But I mean he's putting that

852
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: team on his back. You know, they're not they're not

853
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: close to Cleveland. If Bobby Witt is having an okay

854
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: season or whatever, I mean, he's kind of single handedly,

855
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, putting his team on his back, and it's

856
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: exciting to see. I love watching Bobby Wood junior play.

857
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: And it was fun tying it to the sort of

858
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: the super start of more so than just running a

859
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: team or his contributed to a team. Bobby Witt had

860
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: that star power, the glamour at All Star both, you know,

861
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: in the home run derby. Mostly I guess it was

862
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's in Texas where he's from.

863
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: But that part of it was, you know, him grabbing

864
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: the torch a little bit slowly as a young player

865
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: as well. So that was that was cool to see

866
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: because that's somewhere where baseball has been lacking. We've talked

867
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: about this before, their ability to make their stars shine

868
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: like that one sport that we cover on nodunks all

869
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: the time in basketball, right that has been lacking. Although

870
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: MLB has turned it around.

871
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: They've gotten much better in recent years, and you know,

872
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: having some generational players certainly helps the cause. But yeah,

873
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an exciting player to watch. There's just

874
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know we're talking about earlier. We're so spoiled,

875
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: but I mean even the young players right now in MLB,

876
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, you've got the veteran guys like Harper and

877
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: Otani and Trout, you know, when he's healthy and you know,

878
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: guys like that. But you know, then you've got guys, yeah,

879
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: like Bobby Wood Junior, you know, who's the future of

880
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: this league. And sign that big contract with the Royals

881
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: I think it was last year. Like he's going to

882
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: be there for a long time. And that's good to

883
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: see because I feel like in baseball it a lot

884
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: of times the stars end up in big market teams, absolutely,

885
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: and that could be good, that could be bad, but

886
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: it's good to have an elite player like this in

887
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: a small market team like Kansas City. You know, it

888
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: brings interest like it obviously brings you know, fans, more

889
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: Kansas City fans and things like that, because they've struggled

890
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: with attendance and when they're not playing well, no one's

891
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: going to the game.

892
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: So we just talked about Marcus Simeon. I know Marcus Star,

893
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, he should be in Oakland.

894
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: And he wanted to stay, you know, that's the thing.

895
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: And someone I saw this photo it said this was

896
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: on Reddit. I was when I was, you know, researching

897
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: for our show today, and it was a photo of

898
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: the Oakland Coliseum from the twenty nineteen wild Card game

899
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: when they played the Rays. It was full. You know,

900
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: that wasn't even five years Well, yeah, it was just

901
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: over five just under five years ago. I mean, how

902
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: do you go from that to this? You know? And

903
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: again like it's through no fault.

904
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: Of the fans, yes, yes, And you mentioned twenty nineteen.

905
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: I think of the Blue Jays when things were thanks.

906
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: For good twenty nineteen a run.

907
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: That was a bad year.

908
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Nineteen year that was when we were like Vladdie and

909
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: bo were coming up. Twenty twenty COVID season, we surprisingly

910
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: made the expanded Playoffs. I was like, okay, cool, but yeah,

911
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.

912
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah that was the last one. Yeah, let's stick on

913
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: those bad teams for a second.

914
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: Here.

915
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: What's the more impressive thing about the Chicago White Sox season,

916
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: which has been extremely bad? Is it that they've had

917
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: two fourteen game losing streaks at different times fourteen game

918
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 2: losing streaks at least because one of them was longer,

919
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: but to fourteen game streaks at least or one hundred

920
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: losses by August twenty fifth, So which one was more impressive?

921
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: Because it was these long streaks it was a fourteen

922
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: out of twenty and then this hundred game or sorry,

923
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: these hundred losses by August twenty Fifth's that's tough to do.

924
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go the separate losing streaks, okay, because

925
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: that I mean just law of averages, you know, And

926
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm no math specialist, trust we can break up my

927
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: old report cards tests, but just law of averages. I mean,

928
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: you gotta just win one game, you know, like during

929
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: that spance. So to not do that twice over fourteen

930
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: or more games in a season. Teams have lost one

931
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: hundred games before. Again, like, to lose it that quickly

932
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: is also pretty crazy and kind of like borderline impressive,

933
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: I feel. But yeah, for me, like it's the it's

934
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: the separate losing streaks. It's and I knew the White

935
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: Socks were going to be bad this year, but not

936
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: like this bad.

937
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like they're going to be the worst

938
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: modern MLB team most likely they've lost one hundred and

939
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: one games. Now they're at thirty one and one hundred one,

940
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: so they've got thirty games left. The worst team is

941
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty losses by those nineteen sixty two Mets.

942
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: That way, they got a shot at it. Yeah, they

943
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: got a shot.

944
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's the worst modern MLB team. But I

945
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: think that I agree with you. The two per separate

946
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: game losing streaks have at least fourteen games. It's harder

947
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: to do, yeah, which is odd to say that for

948
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: a team that's lost one hundred already already. Oh, we

949
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: just wanted to feel a little bit happier about other

950
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: our situations, you know, didn't just talk about the White

951
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: Sox a little bit.

952
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah makes me feel It makes me feel a bit better,

953
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it doesn't. And I don't really know that

954
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: there's any help on the horizon. And if you're a

955
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: free agent, like, you know, do you want to go

956
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: to the White Sox, like, you know, No, that franchise

957
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: is just really struggled. And I thought, like when they

958
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: traded Christale a couple years ago to Boston, I was like, oh, man,

959
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: White Sox are going to be loaded, Like they got

960
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: a really good return on that trade. And those players

961
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: never really it just never really came together. Injuries, bad luck,

962
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: guys never really played up to their potential. It's kind

963
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: of like a perfect storm, but you know it happens,

964
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: and it seems like they didn't really have a contingency plan.

965
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: They've been very reactive and yeah, now they're just kind

966
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: of stuck in purgatory, which is well not even purgatory.

967
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, purgatory would be a step up for the

968
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: White Sox at this point. But they're just really like,

969
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: I don't really know what the next plan, what the

970
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: next move for them is. They've got Luis Robert Junior,

971
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: like he's obviously a stud but on him and they

972
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: didn't give up on him. And they've got Crochet who

973
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: looks to be like could be a front end starter,

974
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: ace kind of guy, but.

975
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Great name, great name.

976
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean beyond that, I don't like, they

977
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: don't really have much, you know, so I don't really

978
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: know what the White Sox are going to do. But yeah,

979
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: to those losing streaks, super impressive.

980
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: Very impressive. All right, that comes to the UH brings

981
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: us to the end, I should say, which UH is

982
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: just a transition to talk about your next stop, which

983
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: is Cincinnati.

984
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, trip here, going to Ohio, Great American Ballpark. Yeah

985
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: this first time.

986
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: Ye, it's a it's a fun park. You've been no,

987
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: I see from the outside every single time. I wanted

988
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: to come with you on Friday. Okay, because every time

989
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: I made the drive from Atlanta to Toronto, I get

990
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: up over that hill and I see that ballpark, I

991
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: see Cincinnati, and I get excited because it's probably the

992
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: best thing on the road that happened in the first

993
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: six hours of that ride. It's like six hours, I

994
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: haven't seen anything.

995
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: Bang.

996
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: It's also it's just this destinate It's like you're going

997
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: up a roller coaster. You're going up this hill, you

998
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: see nothing, and then you see the pretty great American Ballpark,

999
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: which is Yeah, I almost came. I almost came on Friday,

1000
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: almost made it happen, But we got it, didn't I

1001
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: got tests.

1002
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: You can join me in the holiday in where I'm staying.

1003
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: You know, you got a place to stay. Continental Breakfasts. Well,

1004
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: we crushed some bagles in the lobby. I'm excited. Yeah,

1005
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm excited to go. I'm excited to see

1006
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: Elie de la Cruz. I'm meeting a couple of friends

1007
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: of mine from Taiwan and Japan, so it's going to

1008
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: be a bit of a reunion of sorts. But yeah,

1009
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: I that stadium looks great on TV, looks great in photos.

1010
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to go, and I'm gonna.

1011
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: I a.

1012
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: I want to get this right. A skyline Skyline chili.

1013
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? That's like their famous dish in Cincinnati.

1014
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: I think I have a Skyline dog as well, which

1015
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: is like like a chili cheese dog. I think I

1016
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: could be getting this wrong, you know. I mean, I

1017
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: love tat. I gotta try these ball snacks, you know.

1018
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no shame in that. Yeah, but you're it

1019
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: sounds like you just they just put the chili on

1020
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: the dock.

1021
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: I believe so, yeah, I believe so.

1022
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1023
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: But I have a driving question for you, totally random.

1024
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Have you ever done Atlanta to Toronto in one drive?

1025
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1026
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: Just straight through like one like just got up gas? Yeah, yes, yes.

1027
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 2: Yes, can I saw for electricity? Yes yes, I did

1028
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: it multiple.

1029
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: Times, multiple times. Look at you.

1030
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's anything to be proud of.

1031
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for doing it that. I couldn't

1032
00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: do that.

1033
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't stop for Continental Breakfast.

1034
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't blame you.

1035
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah you know. No, it wasn't fun, but I did it.

1036
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: I did it. Yeah, going that that side through since Ai, Ohio,

1037
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: then through Detroit and then windsor.

1038
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your what's your what's your preferred preferred route

1039
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: going through Buffalo or going through Detroit.

1040
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: I think it's Detroit because it's just shorter.

1041
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: It's shorter.

1042
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: It is slightly shorter.

1043
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: Okay, the other one, the other one can get you

1044
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: can get bogged down at.

1045
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: That bridge, yeah, big time in Buffalo.

1046
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1047
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's a bridge that you have to go

1048
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: over in Detroit. Troit.

1049
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ambassador Pretie on Friday. Oh you're doing okay?

1050
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh you're already talking. You're already I'm doing it.

1051
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: I'm doing it in two though, it's ill advised to

1052
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: do it in one.

1053
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean.

1054
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: It's long.

1055
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it's very long. Yeah, it's uh. You can

1056
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: push it if you're if you're you know, keeping everything

1057
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: in your bladder. You can do it just over fourteen,

1058
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: which is.

1059
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Important, which isn't easy considering you're just smashing garbage. Food

1060
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: and drinks.

1061
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: That's optional. That's optional. Whether what you want to eat.

1062
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: What do you pack it on your road trips?

1063
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: Healthy snacks, healthy food, yeah, from from home?

1064
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, things have changed. Things have changed in road trips,

1065
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: and I'm just smashing Cheetos and mountain dew for ten hours.

1066
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of healthy snacks in a different type of way.

1067
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: We're talking. You talk about the Ambassador Bridge Detroit, which

1068
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: goes over to Windsor you can run a half I

1069
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Speaker 2: think it's a half marathon where you cross the border

1070
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: and you can you can run a half marathon or

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00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: a marathon. You literally cross the border from the US

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00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: to Canada. You don't have to, you know, bring your

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00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: passport or anything. You just run. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: They do stop the clock while you're going through customs.

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00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how they do it. But it's

1077
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: your on a bridge or in a tunnel, I should say,

1078
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: and that's that? Is that cool? I don't know if

1079
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: that school. I've been thinking about doing it just to

1080
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: say it. Yeah, but is it? Is it all that enjoyable?

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00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna do the Detroit crossing

1082
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, do the tunnel. It's quicker, okay, one

1083
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the tunnel. I've done it multiple times.

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00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: You drive through it.

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00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done the bridge. Yeah, I mean with the family,

1086
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: with my family, Like you know, my mom's from Ohio,

1087
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: so we would go down there a couple of times

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00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: per year. We would always do the bridge. But then

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00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: when I went down older, I would drive down by

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00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: myself to see my grandparents and my aunts and uncles,

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00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: and I would take the tunnel and it was way quicker.

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00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 1: So save you some time.

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: Maybe JD's got to look at it on Friday.

1094
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: You got to show me where this tunnel is. I've

1095
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: never seen I've never seen it.

1096
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's there. I can confirm, I can confirm

1097
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: it's there. Yeah.

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00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you run through it as well if you want

1099
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: to do a half marathon, if you want to just.

1100
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: Run there, you're credit to stretch my legs by then.

1101
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there go. And if you want to follow Joel's

1102
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: Cincinnati trip, hit up the No Bunts Instagram account No

1103
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 2: Underscore Bunts where you'll be putting stuff from the Oakland

1104
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: coltem as well.

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00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: I got to see some of those conversations you had.

1107
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: Must have been good with the people who unfortunately are

1108
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: seeing this an odd situation because as people are commenting

1109
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: in the Bleacher Creature and as you said too, yes

1110
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: they're supposed to go to to Vegas, but who knows,

1111
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: who knows what happens here without a stadium at this point.

1112
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Well even without a stadium. But again, like I've been

1113
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: following the story a bit, they don't even have financing

1114
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: at this point. Yes, it seems like it's a lot

1115
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: of smoke and mirrors from Oakland and MLB and maybe

1116
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: some stakeholders in Vegas, but there definitely is not concrete

1117
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: financing at all in place, so I don't really know

1118
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: what then. Obviously, the next step is Sacramento, like that

1119
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: is possibly going to buy them some time to get

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00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: the financing in order in Vegas, which.

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00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: May be becoming a lot from the city itself.

1122
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: Right, But again, like and I think we posted I

1123
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: did a carousel on this, this was last year, but

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00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: a lot of Vegas residents don't want it. They just

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00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't want to pay for a stadium.

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Speaker 1: And there was a there was a very powerful teachers

1127
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: group who was against this because again, like that money

1128
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: could be going towards like schooling and things like that.

1129
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: So I think it's from what I know and from

1130
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: what I've seen, it sounds like it's very far from

1131
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: a done deal. But that being said, I don't think

1132
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: there's any contingency plan to keep them in Oakland. I

1133
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: know the city's made some efforts to come up with

1134
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: some solutions to keep them there, but I don't at

1135
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: this point, I don't really see that as a reality,

1136
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: which is sad to say, but you know, this is

1137
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: the world we live in.

1138
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: On a bright note, you're going to a great ballpark,

1139
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: This is true. Somebody bleacher creatures here said, I went

1140
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: as a kid. It was a great ballpark, my first

1141
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: one with a river in the back. Yeah.

1142
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: The river is right there, Riverfront Stadium. Yeah.

1143
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So enjoy no underscore buns if you want any

1144
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: of those details, anything that happened with Joel, no dunks.

1145
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Thursday. Some basketball talk will be happening.

1146
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: But until then, we'll see it. Joel, You're gone. See

1147
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: you next year. You'll be here.

1148
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: I'll be here. I'll be back.

1149
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: You rely visit and we'll see you virtually.

1150
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: You will see me both.

1151
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1152
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: I gotta come back. And got to have a public's

1153
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: pub sub heard a lot about them, and then we

1154
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: went to publics last night. It was like almost an

1155
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: hour waiting line. But I digress.

1156
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: It's always long there.

1157
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard I gotta get one.

1158
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: We'll get better. We'll actually get better than that. We

1159
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: can do that, all right, We'll see a Thursday