1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. I am John Schmelt. Demand 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: to my left is pauled Totino on the phone number 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: for you is two oh one nine four or five 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: on three. It's all presented by cores Light, download the 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Coors Light Rewards AFT to an Amazing Giants Prizes. Throughout 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: the off season and Paul Um, we talked a lot 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: about the coaching changes in the coaching editions, I should say, 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL yesterday, one piece of news that hadn't 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: come out yet was who the Jets were gonna hire 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: as their head coach, and we did get word of 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: that yesterday. At one point it looks like it was 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: gonna be former Giants assistant Matt Rule, and then that 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of faded away from reports, and then it turned 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: out to be someone that people in the AMC should 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: already be very familiar with, Adam Gaze, former head coach 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: of the Dolphins. I know a lot of Jeff fans 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: are really upset about this. I never thought Gaze was 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: did a poor job in Miami. I never thought he 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of had a ton to work with, 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: To be honest, with you. The one year he had 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Tannehill for for a full year, they went ten and six, 23 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs. He's only played I think ten 24 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: games the past two seasons. He and Brock Oswiler starting 25 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: for them. This year they were seven and six at 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: one point. So he's offensive coach. He's a guy that's 27 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: done well as as a guy who's handled quarterbacks. To 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: bring him into to help Sam Donald along, I get it. 29 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: I think it's okay. I suspect that most Jets fans 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: who are upset about him are angry because they look 31 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: at Mike McCarthy's resume and they say, well, look at 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: that guy. A lot of playoff appearances, a super Bowl ring, 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: and you settled for this. I think that's where it's 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: coming from. Yeah, it's funny, and this is kind of 35 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: how I look at it. And we talked about this yesterday. 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: There are two different parts of being a head coach. 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: If you're one of these offensive gurgles, right, there's the 38 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: CEO management part of the deal, and then you have 39 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the play caller, offensive scheme part of the deal. Right. 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I would trust McCarthy more to be the guy that 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: manages the team as the CEO. I think I would 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: honestly trust Gays Moore as the play caller, to be 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: honest with you, that makes a lot of sense. And 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of how I look at it, and all 45 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: the pens, I think, what you prioritize. I'm not a 46 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: big fan. And look, we talked about a lot about 47 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: this a lot because we watched what the Packers did 48 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: when Ben McAdoo camp here, right, and that offense that 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: he brought here is pretty much what they did in 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay. That that that's what it was, more or less. 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not a huge, you know, hardcore 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: West Coast guy. Um. I think Gays is a good 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: coaching and we'll say, look, he's gonna have to win. 54 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: And the bottom line is how does Sam Donald develop? 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: And even to me, more so than wins their losses, 56 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: because obviously the defense has a big part to do 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: with whether or not you win or lose games, how 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: that offense comes along with Sam Donald is going to 59 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: determine whether or not they made the right move with 60 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: someone like Case. I wonder how much the generation gap 61 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: had to do with this. To Gaze's forty mccarthy'st that's 62 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: a big difference in age. And I don't think there's 63 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: any doubt that when you're talking about a team that's 64 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: trying to build with a young rookie quarterback, Donald is 65 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: their franchise. He's the face of what they're trying to do. 66 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if they were looking to have somebody who 67 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: would better connect with him in terms of the age gap. Maybe, 68 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. And Gays brought in the big guns. 69 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: You heard who We got to call up Christopher Johnson 70 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: to recommend him. Peyton Man, Yep, it's not a bad 71 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: guy to have to make a phone call for you. 72 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: And now there's a couple of guys are talking about 73 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: for defensive coordinator there. Um. One was Greg Williams and 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: I talked about him yesterday. I don't need to regurgitate that. Uh. 75 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: The other guy they were talking about the potential defensive 76 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: coordinator and the name is on the tip of my tongue, 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos head coach that I I got let go. Joseph Yes, 78 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: that he might come in vicause he was with Gays 79 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: in Miami before he went over to Denver. Yeah. Um, 80 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why nobody's mentioning Steve Spagnaal Spags is 81 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: a quality defensive coordinator. Has had some ups and down. 82 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, I love Spags, but his last couple stops 83 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and not go well. He's had some ups and downs. 84 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: There's no doubt he's also I think he's on the 85 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: other side of fifty, which may or may not have 86 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: impact on on what some teams are trying to do 87 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: when they're trying to get a lot more young blood. 88 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Not to me, it's not all for God's sakes. Thanks, 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Um well, but but you see, 90 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: I even put a tweet up just the other day, 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: it might have been yesterday, and I said, hey, you know, 92 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to help gms, but John Fox is 93 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: a hell of a coach and a and a really 94 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: great guy. Now he's in his sixties. I think he's 95 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: sixty two. He can go to defenses though. You know, 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: he brought Carolina to a Super Bowl, he brought Denver 97 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: to his Super Bowl, had a really good one lost 98 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: career record until he got to Chicago, where I don't 99 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: believe he had a roster good enough to make the playoffs. 100 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: He had three straight tough seasons. Everybody who's in Chicago, 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, basically rips him because they say, wow, look 102 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the team was just awful for us three years. We 103 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: couldn't wait to get rid of him. Of course, a 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: game passed him by, but my question is, okay, what 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: did you give him? You know, and I know he 106 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: does want to get back into coaching. He's working with 107 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: the ESPN right now. There's no question about his ability 108 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: as a defensive coordin. I don't think anybody would argue 109 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: out at all now whether or not you think he's 110 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: a good head coach. I think he certainly would have 111 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: been one of the more qualified guys out there, but 112 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: there is an age factor that you have to consider. 113 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: And then obviously what he did in Chicago disappointed a 114 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: lot of people, and maybe there's a stain there that 115 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: scares some people away. I would have talked to him, though, 116 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: if if I were in a in a spot to 117 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: higher head coach, I would have talked to him. Then again, 118 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm a huge John Fox fan. So just there are 119 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: two vacancies now around the league that's still had to 120 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: be filled. The Dolphins and a lot of rumors that 121 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: they're going to try to go after Chris rah Shard 122 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: when whenever he becomes available, whether it's after this week 123 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: against the Rams or of Dallas wins, which I think 124 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: is a decent shot of that. I think the Rams 125 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: are playing in best football right now. Um then obviously 126 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: whenever they lose, what should be I think, I don't 127 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: know would it be the first team, they will be 128 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: the second team after Vic fang Fengio, who went with 129 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: a defensive guy as their head coach. Everyone else has 130 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: pretty much gone for offense. They have they have, and 131 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, I get it because right now that seems 132 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: to be the way this league is going. There's always 133 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna be ebbs and flows to every trend. Obviously, that's 134 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: what makes a trend. That's the way it's going now. 135 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the right way to go, 136 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: but I get it. I understand it. Uh to me, 137 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: I think what we really need to see now instead 138 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: of guys who are being more psychedelic with their offensive 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: game plans, I think what we really need to see 140 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: more of our guys who know how to manage teams. 141 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: You said a minute ago about you know you'd like 142 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: Gates maybe more as a play caller and McCarthy more 143 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: as a manager, right, I kind of think, right, now, 144 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: if I were looking for a head coach, I'd be 145 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: looking more for a guy who does that, which is 146 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: probably why I would look more for an older guy, 147 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: because a manager, okay, can then always go out and 148 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: get the two coordinators who can specializes in the and 149 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: the excess it owes it doesn't work well the other 150 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: way around. The problem you have is that then if 151 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: you get a really good coordinator, he's gonna get taken 152 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: away by somebody eventually. Uh yeah, probably. And the other 153 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: thing with Gates, by the way, I should mention, I don' 154 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: think enough people have He had a lot of personnel 155 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: responsibilities of Mammi too, so he's not gonna have those 156 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: responsibilities with the Jets, and I think allowing him just 157 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: to focus on coaching probably is a good thing for 158 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: him to. Yeah, you know, I would think that that's 159 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why he wanted the job where 160 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: he took the job, because he understood the jet structure. 161 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: We're reading in the in the reports of the newspapers 162 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: that he's not gonna have a whole lot of say 163 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: and much of anything. Yeah, this is more of the 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: much like I think the Steel has worked this way 165 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: where the GM and hey, coach both report to the owner. 166 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: The coach is not report to the GM. That's how 167 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: it's structured with the Jets, where both guys reports separately. 168 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I think, uh, I think you know, 169 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: he's certainly gonna be in for a little bit of 170 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: a of a new thing, and that he's never worked 171 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: in this kind of market before. I mean, no matter 172 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: what you say about him, Uh, he's had some success 173 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: and some not so good success. Uh to come here 174 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: with this franchise quarterback, I mean I think I was 175 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: already reading in some of the papers today they're saying 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: him in a macagnet. If they don't turn it around 177 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: like in one year, there's gonna be a lot of heat. 178 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be a pressure job John. 179 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: And now what basically they're saying for the Bengals, you 180 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: have Eric b Enemy with the Chiefs. Christoph shar has 181 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: been mentioned with them as well. Um. Also Matt Eberfluss 182 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: is a guy that's been talked about who's the defensive 183 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: coordinator for the Colts. They're still playing as well, So 184 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: the other teams that are waiting for a coach might 185 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: wait to see who gets knocked out this week before 186 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: making that final decision. And there are football games this week, Paul, 187 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: It's usually the best best weekend the football of the year. 188 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: You have some of the best teams that are left. 189 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: I thought last week's games were actually all pretty good 190 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: and pretty close. I thought they were entertaining group of games. 191 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: But you know, some good ones this week again. And look, 192 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: I think you're taking a look at a bunch of 193 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: teams that play different styles. You know, the Rams are 194 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: an offensive, throw the ball over the field type of team, 195 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, frankly, Paul, play the way you want 196 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: a football team to play. They run the football, they 197 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: play really good defense, they try to protect the ball. 198 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: They're really good up front on both sides of the ball. 199 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: They got two good linebackers. That's a contrast in styles, um, 200 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: which I think could be a really interesting game on 201 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: Saturday night. I really think the Cowboys have a very 202 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: good chance to win this game. Yeah I think so too. 203 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: But but on the other side of the ledger, I 204 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: like the Saints big over the Eagles, which is why 205 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: I still think the Saints are gonna win the whole thing, 206 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: because I don't think whoever gets out of that Rams 207 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys game is going to go to the Superdome and 208 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: beat Drew Brees and company. It's a hard place to win. Now, 209 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate, but I agree with you. 210 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: I think that Eagles secondary, when all said and done, 211 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: is going to be what ends up losing them games. Um, 212 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: they will this weekend, and Drew Brees with two weeks 213 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: to get ready with that receiving corn, Sean Payne and 214 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas and Ted getting all those guys, 215 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how they're gonna 216 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: slow down that Saints offense and look offense has not 217 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: been that great the last half dozen games they've played 218 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: in Drew Brees is don't for less than two ten 219 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: yards I think four of his last six games. But 220 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: that Eagles secondary, man, it's bad and bad, and the 221 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: Saints offensive line is so good. Can that Eagle's defensive 222 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: front affect the game that much? I don't know. You 223 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: also mentioned the magic words of Sean Payton. He's had 224 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: a week off to prep for this too, and look, 225 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: no one will ever question his ability to be creative, 226 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: his ability to be aggressive, and and his ability to 227 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, make something happen more often than not. It's good, 228 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: especially when he's got talented players at his disposal. It's 229 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: hard for me not to think that the Saints, you know, 230 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: they're they're they're the super Bowl team. In my opinion, 231 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: they're they're the champs. Now, no one in the a 232 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: f C is gonna beat them either. Let me say 233 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: this though, this is a four game stretch for Drew 234 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Brees from week twelve to week fifteen. Okay, then he 235 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: rebounded had a big game against Pittsburgh in Week sixteen 236 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: when he threw for three twenty six, But this is 237 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: his four week stretch. Atlanta fifteen, Dallas eighteen hundred and 238 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven yards, Hampa one two d and one yards, 239 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: and Carolina thirty five two hundred and three yards. Those 240 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: are four very very low production games for a player 241 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: of Drew Brees cal well, regardless of what the stats 242 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: tell you. I did watch that Dallas game and I 243 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: thought he was just horrific. I almost couldn't believe that 244 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: was saying. I thought it was a strike replacement quarterback 245 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: his offensive line and help that game. Either they did not, 246 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: but it was just amazing, which is why I think 247 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: if they get Dallas, it's gonna be a totally different 248 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: story in the in the rematch. It's always easier to 249 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: play in New Orleans than in Dallas. And that's the 250 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: other thing. How many of those games were away three 251 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: and good point, And guys Matt Ryan and Drew Brees 252 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: in particular, are much more deadly in their domes, or 253 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: in any dome for that matter, than they are anywhere else. 254 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: And that's just that's just the way it is, no argument. 255 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the a f C really quickly, Paul, 256 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: and and we'll go more over these games with Jeff 257 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Feels when I hosted them tomorrow. Of course there's gonna 258 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: be snow in the forecast in New England because it's 259 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: a Patriot playoff game against the team that likes to 260 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: pass it. So of course there's gonna be snow. Because 261 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick said his telegram up to you know the 262 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: weather gods, and Apollo sent down rain. That's what happens. 263 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: So they're hosting the Chargers. Look, I think that you know, 264 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: may I was all over the Charges last year. I 265 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: was a year early on them. So I still think 266 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: they're a very very good team. I think they'll have 267 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: a real good chance to win this game. But the Patriots, 268 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: as mediocre as they've been at times this year, they 269 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: were still eight now at home. They're a tough team 270 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: to be in that building in the playoffs and off 271 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: of a bye. Yeah, I just don't see it. I 272 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: think the Chargers trainers ends right here in Foxboro. I 273 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: think it's a real close game though, you know, I 274 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: think they give them a struggle. But but I don't 275 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: see them coming out of there win with a win. 276 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: And and honestly, knowing Andy Reid the way he always 277 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: apples up with his game management in the playoffs, the 278 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Chiefs aren't gonna win their game either. Really, Yeah, they're done. 279 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: They're done. And Andy Reid has done it time and 280 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: time and time again. He mismanages postseason games. Yeah, but 281 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: it's not always in this first one though. He won't 282 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: playoff games he do. How many NFCY Champions games he 283 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: got too? With the Eagles empty, so then what was 284 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: all on the line? What happened? Yeah? That's why I 285 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: don't But could could I see them losing against the 286 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Patriots or something like that? Shore look and Lance came 287 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: on yesterday and he was with you too. He he 288 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: thinks the Cults are gonna win that game. I think 289 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: that they have a real good chance. I think it'll 290 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: be a close game. I think it will be a 291 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: very high scoring game. I don't think either defense is 292 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: going to stop the other team from scoring. I don't. 293 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't see the Cults going into that building and winning. 294 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the Chief scores, so, I mean they're gonna 295 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: have to score forty on the road in that building, 296 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: at least in the high to mid thirties. It might 297 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: be one very well might be. But I got a 298 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: hunch that either luck will win this game on the 299 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: final drive of the game, okay, or or somehow some way, 300 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: which by the way, if the Colts do have the 301 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: ball last within a score that could vert, that will 302 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: probably happen. They'll win. And and the other thing I 303 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: could see is where Andy Reid is in a position 304 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: where he's got us somehow in the last five or 305 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: six minutes, work the clock to to make something happen, 306 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: or or ice something, and he'll butcher it somewhere. Okay, 307 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: he'll butcher itself. And there's no doubting his record in 308 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: these spots. Look at the facts are what they are. 309 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: And again it goes back to our head coach discussion. Right, 310 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: who's a better schemer and a guy that puts together 311 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: an offense than Andy Reid. There's not many his His 312 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: players play for him. He prepares them properly. He comes 313 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: into the building with a real good idea of what 314 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: he wants to do, awesome plan in scheme, and then 315 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: when the ball gets kicked off, he loses his way. 316 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Game management can be a struggle for him sometimes. You know, 317 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: if the other statement it's it's amazing, and I wonder 318 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: why he has never had somebody and maybe it's just 319 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: because of his stature and how many games he's won, etcetera, etcetera. 320 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: But you would have thought over the years he would 321 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: have looked himself in the mirror and said, you know what, 322 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I keep I keep butchering these games. I need an 323 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: assistant head coach who's gonna straighten me out and he's 324 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna kind of smack me in the face a couple 325 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: of times in the fourth quarter of these big games 326 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: so that I can get myself together. I hear Dick 327 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: Curls available, right whatever that was Rex Ryan's clock guy, Right, Yeah, 328 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: that his clock guy no in any events anyway. We 329 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: we we we have a bank full of calls. Let's 330 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: let's get to him at two o one, five on three. 331 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: We'll take your calls. And that's the show in anything 332 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: NFL and of course everything New York Football Giants. We 333 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: want to remind you that Big Blue Kick Off Live 334 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: is presented by cores Light. Download the Coors Light rewards 335 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: app to an amazing Giants prizes throughout the off season. 336 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to Drey in Atlanta. He will lead us off. 337 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: What's up, Drey? Who's going on? Pete? Okay, how's it 338 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: going ahead? Happy New Year. I wanted to talk about 339 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: free agency. I don't even really want to touch on 340 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: the draft because I'm still looking in that players just 341 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: like you guys may start soon. But I wanted to 342 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: run a couple of names by you. I know, since 343 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: we have Gettleman. Ghetman has a good relationship with a 344 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: lot of the plays at UH. The Panthers, they have 345 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: a little they have a tackle conundrum coming up real 346 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: soon where Darryl Darryl Williams is a free agent and 347 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: and because of Matt Khalil's contract, um they may let 348 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Matt Khalil go and has Mac ever played right tackle, 349 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: but I can look that up for you. Mcalil's on 350 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the older side, and frankly, I'm not sure how much 351 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: he has left in the tank. Daryl Williams, though, if 352 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: he's healthy, is someone that would interest me. Khalil has 353 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: had some injury history as well. You have to take 354 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: that into accounts is just coming off I r as well. 355 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Khalil Khalil's nine. He played left tackle all his years 356 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: in Minnesota and in Carolina, so he has been strictly 357 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: a left tackle. He's played sixteen games and every year 358 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: except for one, and that was his last year in 359 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: Minnesota when he only played in two, so that was 360 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: his injury. I think he I think he tore up 361 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: his name. He's been through some wars. But but here's 362 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: the thing, uh and and you're right, I mean, certainly 363 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: it bears watching. But it just seems to me that 364 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: if I were going to put a priority list on 365 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: the free agent right tackles on the market, Bobby Massey 366 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: of the Bears would easily be way way above everybody 367 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: else on the list right right, But I think they 368 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: could bring Bobby actually back because I was looking at 369 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: even New England where Adrian Waddle. It looked pretty good, 370 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: but I like, he can't break up. I can't read 371 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: out their their current right tackle. He was a guy 372 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: who I had talked about that you might be able 373 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: to get at a bargain basement price as a good 374 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: value if you recall, I think it was last year 375 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: when I talked about him, and I'll tell you something, 376 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: it has his arrow has gone down since then. I'm 377 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: not so sure that that I would look to bring 378 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: him in. I don't know how much of an upgrade 379 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: he is. I think the Giants, if they're gonna upgrade 380 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: that right tackle spot, they need and tell me, if 381 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: you're a great john, they need a stud. They need 382 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: a Karee mackenzie type to just get a a stop 383 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: gap kind of guy, a value budget kind of guy 384 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. If they really want to go 385 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: forward in two thousand nineteen and want to keep Eli 386 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: Manning healthy enough to give them a chance at the playoffs, 387 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: they need a stud over there. Well that's gonna be 388 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: a huge investment. Uh Look, right tackles on cost, the 389 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: left tackles cost, but they're still not cheap, so uh 390 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: look it could be a first or second round draft 391 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: pick to absolutely it could be, But at the end, 392 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: that's still a big investment. Way to talk about money 393 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: or draft capital, it's still an investment of an asset. 394 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: So I I think, look to me, the big things 395 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: you got to improve this offseason our pass rush, past defense, 396 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: then the right side of the offensive line and right 397 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: tackle being the priority there. So I do think it 398 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: is one of the priorities this offseason to try to 399 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: get that right tackle position better. I really do. But 400 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: I think even if you can't get the stud and 401 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: like you said, there there's no guarantee they're gonna let 402 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: a guy like Massey go In Chicago, I think they 403 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: actually do have a lot of cap space there. I 404 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: think they're in pretty good shape cap wise. I gotta 405 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: look it up, but I think you have to improve 406 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: the position. And if if I'm not saying you sign 407 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: a mediocre guy to a big long term deal, then 408 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: just to sign somebody. But if you want to throw 409 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: a stoptop, stop gap guy in there until you find 410 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: your long term answer, which preferably is a stud player, 411 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I just can't go into an 412 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: off season saying I have to get a stud at 413 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the spot, because that's when, as Dave Gentleman says, that's 414 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: when it leads to mistakes. You gotta only throw money 415 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: at good plays. There's no doubt about that way right 416 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: because I think now because if you look at a 417 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: lot of teams that had offensive line issues, they had 418 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: offensive lines that are coming off injuries on the telling 419 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: and their contracts. Now the question is will you know 420 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: the decision and Giants will have to make is do 421 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: I want to take a chance on uh a player 422 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: recently come up with injury when they when the team 423 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: that he was currently on don't want to take a 424 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: chance on him. So but at this thing, like we 425 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: said earlier, um give if you give a player a 426 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: chance and put him in the right atmosphere, he may 427 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: he may um you know, play for your makes succeed 428 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: for you because look at look at the Cowboys. They 429 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: got uh um Ah boy from New England for one 430 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: year contract for cheap and he's been performing the guy 431 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: that was on the other side of our shoulder last year. 432 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, and quite honestly, and the 433 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: biggest problem with kind of addressing the guys that are 434 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: going to be available in free agency is you don't 435 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: know if there is that one team that's an outlier 436 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: that's got a ton of cap space that suddenly decides, oh, 437 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: that's the guy we want, and that's the guy we're 438 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: going to overpay to get, and then all of a sudden, 439 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: what you think is market value for a player is 440 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: no longer relevant because some crazy GM decided that they're 441 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: blowing that guy out of the water. Like look at 442 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: Andrew Nora last year would be a good example of 443 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: that troll Bowl player who suddenly escalated on the salary 444 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: scale many times, probably more than anybody thought. Although Dave 445 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Gentleman made him a comperable offer, uh to sign with 446 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: the Giants. Uh, it just got to be very very expensive. 447 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: All right, thank you taking my cause. Thanks appreciate that 448 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: he looked at the Bears cap space there. It looks 449 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: like they're a little bit under twenty mill is the 450 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: projected cap space for them with their commitments in two 451 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen to quoting over the cap, which is one 452 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: of your lower numbers. That's that's that's not a ton 453 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: of room. No, it isn't. Uh. And Bobby Massey made 454 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: six mill this year, so I don't know how much 455 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: more he's going to look to make. And he's our 456 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: agent and he unrestricted. Yeah, And I don't see anybody 457 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: on their roster that they could let go to save 458 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: any money on the cap either. Taking a look at 459 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: their roster real quick here, unless I mean, I doubt 460 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna balon Allen Robinson after a year. Kyle Fuller, Uh, 461 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: he's a good player, a Keem Hicks, and I stawly 462 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: not gonna let him go. Yeah, So, I mean they'd 463 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: have to push it to get there, that's for sure. 464 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: But no, okay's he's he's a real good player and 465 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: he's there right tackle. So and he played well this 466 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: year two one, four or five one three. And by 467 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: the way, I was looking at Matt Khalil's seasons here 468 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: and it didn't click with me with the year just 469 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: changing in the nine even played it all this year 470 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: only And I didn't say that earlier. I said he 471 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: missed um all but two games. He did not play. Yes, 472 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: he did not play a snap in twenty eighteen. And 473 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: Darry Williams only played one game in twenty and he 474 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: got hurt this located his kneecap actually in the first 475 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: game a pretty serious injury. So, um, I have to 476 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: check to see what Matt Khalil's injury was. I'm not 477 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: positive the top of my head, I can look that 478 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: up for you right now. But you know, those are 479 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: guys where medicals gonna be a big, big part of 480 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: how you evaluate these players, you know what I mean. 481 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: Remember how many visits Jake Long took. He even had 482 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: two visits with the Giants near the end of his career, 483 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: and everybody was checking out his medical saying, look, if 484 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: he's got anything left in his legs, and I think 485 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: he had bone on bone in his knee. If he's 486 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: got anything left in his legs, somebody might want to 487 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: take a flyer on him. And you know, as it 488 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: turned out, I think he actually wound up with the 489 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: vikings at the very end, and it wasn't pretty when 490 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: you get on the field. Yeah, I mean, the medical 491 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: is always gonna be and parts that are very difficult 492 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: for us to ascertain. And it is a knee for Khalil, 493 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: by the way, which is right. I don't have a 494 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: specific and he opened up his call by saying, Khalil 495 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: is coming off a year of injury, So I mean, 496 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: you were you were covered on that. I just think 497 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: you were missing. I just wanted to make sure I 498 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: got the information out there to five one three and 499 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: in Westville is up next ed line four? What's going on? Buddy? 500 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: How you hey? How are you hi? UM? I wanted 501 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: to talk about the quarterback situation UM with Eli. Um. 502 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: I've seen him make a throw this year that um 503 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: he made in the Super Bowl with Manningham And why 504 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: is everybody pitching about Eli? He still can make all 505 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: the throws if you well. I think people finally came 506 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: around to the fact that he still has the arm 507 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: strength to play position and to play the position at 508 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: a high level, and he can make all the throws. 509 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: There are other things that he doesn't do quite as well, 510 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: which is fine. He's certainly not a perfect player. UM. 511 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: I think some people just see Pat Mahomes running around, 512 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, trucking no look passes and seven yard deep throws, 513 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: and they see DeShawn Watson running around and they say, well, 514 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I wish I had a quarterback that could do that. 515 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: But as Paul and I have said, look, if you 516 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: put the right pieces around the Elie and put him 517 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: in the right situation, you can still win with him now. 518 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: And Paul has set his piece on this many times, 519 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: and I haven't really because I haven't been on since 520 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: last Monday. So I'll give my little piece down, then 521 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: I'll let Paul give his addition to me ed what 522 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: they doing right now and and the purpose of Dave 523 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: Gentleman's press conference last week was very simple. The Johns 524 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: are trying to figure out what's next they know, in 525 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, and he's gonna double check out with the 526 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: film with you know, watching the film again. I think 527 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: he was being honest about that. They have a pretty 528 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: good idea what they have an Eli manning and what 529 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: he can do. But this Eli decision is not being 530 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: made in a vacuum. You don't just say all right, 531 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna like go Eli now, we're gonna figure out 532 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: what's coming next. That's not how this works. They have 533 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: to know what their next plan is right so right now, 534 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure Dave Gentleman is having conversations with Chris Pettit 535 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: in his college, you know staff, to see how how 536 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: do they think about the due quarterback, how do they 537 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: think about Haskins, how do they think about Jones? And 538 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: even if they do like one of those players. Maybe 539 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: they think that those guys need a year to play 540 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: under a veteran quarterback, in which case you could draft 541 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: one and then Eli could be back. Anyway, then he's 542 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: gonna talk to his part personnel guys. He's gonna talk 543 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: to Kenny Starnfeld's gonna talk to Matt Sugar. He's gonna talk, 544 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, to the guys around him and see about 545 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: the guys that could be at one free agency. You 546 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: know a lot of people bring up Nick Foles. Well, 547 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: the way he's playing, I doubt the Eagles just gonna 548 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: release him. They have a big option on him. They 549 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: trade him before they release him. Right, Um, what what 550 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: is Pat Shermer thinking nick Foles? He was with him 551 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: and played very closely with him in Philadelphia. What does 552 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: he think of Teddy Bridge order who he was with 553 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. You know, these are all things they have 554 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: to consider. Is there a better option than Eli? That's 555 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: what they're gonna have to decide. And frankly, it's not 556 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: like last year where there's a million guys they can 557 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: choose from. The choices are limited. So my guess is 558 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: that they're gonna land when they spend a little wheel, 559 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna land back on Manning, but they have to 560 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: figure out if there's a better course out there than 561 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the current quarterback. That's what they need to figure out. 562 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: And that's really the bottom line moving forward. Yeah, I 563 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: understand that, Um, and I'm a you know, I'm I 564 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: love Eli Manning. I've been him forever. Has always been 565 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: a gun slinger. They'll always take. It's the risk, and 566 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: but when it when it comes down to it, he 567 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: has he brings us back in the fourth quarter. What 568 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: he did in them two Super Bowls, and even what 569 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: he did in them two Green Bay games was remarkable. 570 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we you know, and I've seen 571 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: him make the clothes this year when he was protected, 572 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: he made the throws. Well, you see, here's the thing. 573 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: The last few years Eli was playing more of the 574 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: percentages because that's what Ben McAdoo wanted them to do. 575 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: And earlier in the year, UM, with the offensive line 576 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: as as discombombulated as it was, he continued to play 577 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: the percentages and that's why, you know, so many people 578 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: were accusing him of being a checkdown guy. Well, once 579 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: they got that offensive line squared away, Eli started to 580 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: become the old Eli again, and they kind of took 581 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: the handcuffs off of him and said, okay, and you 582 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: want to laugh and let it go. And this is 583 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: for you, Paul and the caller and Lenn from Maryland 584 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: called up with this the other day and I hadn't 585 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: gone through the since the end of the year. Where 586 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: do you think he ranks in the league. He's top 587 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: three in the league six six, he's behind, but look 588 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: at the guys he's behind. He's behind Mahomes, GoF, Roethlisberger, 589 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: Rivers and Breeze. Then Eli's next with fifty seven completions 590 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: of over twenty yards I mean, and passes over forty yards. 591 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: He's also six completing ten behind Aaron Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Mahomes, 592 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I mean, those are big time names, and 593 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: he basically did that over the second half of the season. Yeah, 594 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: that's okay, because in the first half of the season 595 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: it wasn't happening by design and and just by the 596 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: way it was working out. So you can't you can't 597 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: possibly justify whoever you're anti Eli, Manning, uh personnel or 598 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: critic might be. You can't justify saying he can't make 599 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: the throws anymore, or does that's that's this proof, or 600 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: doesn't want to throw the ball down the field, which 601 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: is nonsense exactly, that's totally disproven. And I'm gonna add 602 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: one more thing here, because everybody knows I I look, 603 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to complay I think Manning. They 604 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: want they want him back. He wants to be back. 605 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: He's back. The only problem is the mechanism under which 606 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: he goes. I'm much more definitive than John is on this, 607 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: and that's fine. But now here's the thing. There are 608 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: two things about Eli Manning that, in my opinion, have 609 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: been taken away from him, and it's unfortunate because they're 610 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: two of the best weapons he has. The seam route 611 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: went away a few years ago, and only now are 612 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: they trying to get it back with Evan Ingram at 613 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: the end of the season, all of a sudden, that 614 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: play kind of found its way back into the playbook again. 615 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: He actually saw Red Allison on a couple of those 616 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: two days second half and how nice to that? Yeah, 617 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: that really worked well. For like three years we haven't 618 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: seen it. And the second ones, the back shoulder throw. 619 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: I've been screaming about this forever. The back shoulder to 620 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: a key mix was the most deadly potent part of 621 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: this Giant's offense. He's the funny thing, PA, and we'll 622 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: cause you generally speaking, you need a bigger receiver to 623 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: have success understood back shoulder throw, and they actually did 624 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: when McAdoo first got here. Elien Beckham tried to connect 625 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: for a good season or two on that back shoulder throw, 626 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: even in practice during the summer. We talked about this 627 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: at the time. They had a lot of trouble getting 628 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: the timing on those throws, and they really requires a 629 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: lot of chemistry to get that throw. And Manning and 630 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Beckham just have never been able to get together as 631 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: good as they've been on all the other throws. That 632 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: throw they have not been able to get together on. Now, 633 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: that is one of Manning's most potent weapons. Okay, we 634 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: talked about all the time. He's a great play action guy. 635 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Well that's how you beat man coverage sometimes. But but 636 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: the back shoulder is well, the back shoulder in my mind, 637 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: when you had guys like and again they're bigger guys. 638 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: Whether it was burst, whether it was tumor whether it 639 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: was CRUs certainly a key Nicks, who, in my mind, 640 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: was the best back shoulder throw receiver that Manning's ever 641 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: thrown to. Okay, it was order back, third and seven, 642 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: nine yard back shoulder throw, a Keen Knick's first down. 643 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: Giants moved the chains. I got so frustrated these last 644 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: few years by losing that part of the playbook, And 645 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: my goodness, can they just get him a receiver who 646 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: can run that route for him because it was poison 647 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: to opposing teams. They couldn't stop him. He couldn't stop it. 648 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: He made that throw right on the money. It was perfect. 649 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: Couldn't stop it, could not stop anyway in the playoff game. Okay, 650 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: So so now think about this, think of what's happened 651 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: over the last four or five years. For the most part, 652 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: I want to say this too, I don't think it's 653 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: fair to to use throws that Eli made back in 654 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven to justify keeping him in eighteen either. 655 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's what I'm 656 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: saying is right, right, right, that's true, that's fair. What 657 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying is that over the course of the last 658 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: several years, they've gotten away because they couldn't on the 659 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: ball and they couldn't protect so they got away from 660 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: play action. They got away from throwing the ball down field. 661 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: They got back to it though second half of the air, right, 662 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: But but I'm talking about the last four or five 663 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: years a question. They got away from play action, They 664 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: got away from throwing the ball downfield, they got away 665 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: from back shoulder throw, they got away from seam routes. 666 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: These are four things that Eli kicks, but on all 667 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: it all disappeared from the playbook. And then when they 668 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: started to get some of it back in the second 669 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: half of this season, the offense average nearly thirty points 670 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: a game. Gee, what a coincidence. And that's why I 671 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: went frankly, and frankly, that's why when we talked about 672 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: when they brought in the West Coast offense, we talked 673 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: about whether or not we thought it was a good 674 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: fit for the quarterback, and I retrospectively, using the lens 675 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: of hindsight, I'm not sure that it was. Well. We 676 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: knew he could do it, but it was neutering some 677 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: of the best stuff that he could do. Correct. Not 678 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: that Eli couldn't do it, but it wasn't the best 679 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: system for him. Based on what he did his whole 680 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: career and the ultimately that's the biggest argument you can 681 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: give to the Eli Manning critics is that some of 682 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: the best stuff that he did was taken away from him. 683 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: He was really handcuffed. And I think that's a legitimate, 684 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: absolutely legitimate thing to throw in their faces when you 685 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: tell them that Eli mann he can still do it. 686 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: I still think he can, and I hope he got 687 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: all be back alright. Thanks thanking, hey, thanks for calling it, 688 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: and we appreciate the call. Good call. And again Paul 689 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: is much more enthused about this than I am, and 690 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: much more emphatic, no doubt, I'm Italian, I have to be, 691 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: and he's much higher on that whole process than I am. 692 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: I think you have to make a legitimate, you know, 693 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: determination as to what the best path is moving forward. 694 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: And like I said, I think, in my heart of hearts, 695 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the best pass forward 696 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: is probably gonna be with number ten being back, only 697 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: because I don't like what else is out there. Um, 698 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: but look, the bottom line is then the second half 699 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: of year, the offense was productive. It was very productive, 700 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: and man, he made a lot of good throws. Two one, four, five, 701 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: one three. Don in Texas is up next. Hello, Don, 702 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: how are you? How are you doing? John? How you doing? Don? 703 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: What's up? Alright, guys, I'm gonna touch on three subjects Gentleman, Eli, 704 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: and Haskins, and I'll take my answers off the air 705 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: perfect alright. So first, if you kind of pay attention. 706 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: In my opinion, this is just my opinion, I have 707 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: a bad feeling. I don't think Eli Manning is going 708 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: to be back. When you look at what Gentleman said 709 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: at his conference, he was first fixing the defense and 710 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: then he said two things back to back after his 711 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: his sit down with Eli. He said it consecutively after 712 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, he said, sustained consistency is what 713 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: we want to do, and the definition of insanity. He's 714 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Ironically, 715 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion, Eli has been the epitome of inconsistency. 716 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't make the throws. I'm not 717 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: saying he's not a good quarterback. But that's exactly what 718 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: Gentleman was talking about. And he was talking about the 719 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: inconsistencies around Eli Manning, the fact that they haven't had 720 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: consistent things around him that are necessary, like a running game, 721 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: like an offensive line, like receivers, like last year when 722 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 1: they didn't have any. That's what he was talking about. 723 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: You're mistaken. That's not how I took that, Bed. I 724 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of read on that a little bit differently than 725 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: when he was saying there. And I think you're just 726 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: saying that. I don't think he's gonna be back. It's 727 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: just a bad feeling. I don't think he's gonna be back. 728 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate he's only made the playoffs. The Giants have 729 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: one time in the past eight years. That's inconsistent. Something 730 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: has to be done. They definitely have to make a change. 731 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: What do wide things gonna happen? I do believe they're 732 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: going to explore another quarterback as a temporary bridge. That 733 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: leads to my point for Haskins. This guy is a 734 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: stud I know you guys haven't sat down and watched 735 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: the tape at all. In my opinion, he's one right 736 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: under Mayfield and he's above Sam Donald. He's that good. 737 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: The Giants would be making a mistake to not go 738 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: after this guy. Look done, you don't, I hear you? 739 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: And if when I look at the tape. That's my determination. 740 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: I will come out and I will say I think 741 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: that I think the Giant should draft him. I just 742 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have the information to make that 743 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: determination quite yet. All right, I got you and my 744 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: final pick of the playoffs this weekend. I'm taking all 745 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: the home teams except the Chiefs. I like the Colts, Pats, Rams, 746 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: and Saints. Have a good one guy, Thank you, don 747 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate people heavy on the Colts this week. Thanks 748 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: for the call, but heavy on the Colts. It's like 749 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: last everyone was heavy on the Eagles. They're finally starting 750 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: to listen to me about the Andy Reid factor. That's 751 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: why you never had my homes though quarterback. And he's 752 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: pretty good. It's pretty good. Oh he's darn good. Three 753 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: four five one three. Let's go to Scott in New Mexico. 754 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: He's up next. What's up, Scotty? Do good afternoon, guys. 755 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: How you doing? What h question for you? When Dave 756 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Gettleman's press conferences last one, he made a comment that said, 757 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: uh words to the effect that he had no illusions 758 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: about this team, which sort of implied that he knew 759 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 1: he had to get more playmakers to make the team competitive. Yeah, 760 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: and you guys have sort of addressed the needs right tackle, 761 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: probably a cornerback as well. I know they'll be getting 762 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: Sam Beale, but he had shoulder injuries going into this. 763 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's going to hold up, especially at 764 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: the weight he is. It's got real quick. The playmakers 765 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: on defense starts with pass rushers. Yeah, that's what I 766 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: was just alluding to that probably two pass rushers is 767 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: what he's going to need to be nice. Well, I 768 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: think how many you need also is determined by whether 769 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: or not Verdon's back, which, by the way, the more 770 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: I think about it, I think it makes sense to 771 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: have him back on the roster next year along with Jenkins. 772 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: And we didn't say this before. He is going to 773 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: the promom. Yes, right, Khalil Mack is injured, he has 774 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: bailed on it, and Olivier Vernon was the first alternate. 775 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: He is now going. Thank you for that, yes, right. 776 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: With all the changes, though, the one thing that all 777 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: the playoff teams have in common, more so than anything else, 778 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: is they all have very good offensive lines. I can't 779 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: think of a team that doesn't have a good offensive 780 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: line or a very competitive one, and my question was, uh, 781 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: is it that far fetched that the Giants potentially could 782 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: take a first round draft choice with an offensive tackle 783 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: or alignment? As opposed to the past searchers, which I 784 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: guess are more prevalent, I would say not impossible, Scott, 785 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: non impossible at all. I am my opinion there's only 786 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: one guy that would be in consideration in that spot. Again, 787 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at all the guys, but based on 788 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: people that I've talked to that I trust Jonah Williams 789 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: would be the guy. If he's there at six, and 790 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: who knows, he might not be. Maybe maybe the Jets 791 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: are sitting there at three and they're like, you know 792 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: what our franchise quarterback needs. He needs a left tackle, 793 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: So we're picking Jonah Williams. And then all of a sudden, 794 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: you sitting there, Oh maybe the little kid what NC state, 795 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: Mississippi State. But but but we just had Tony Pauline 796 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: on and he and he had those guys flipped. He 797 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: likes Little a lot more than Williams. Who knows, Yeah, 798 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: he wasn't big on Williams. Yeah that's at six for 799 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: for good value. So I don't know. But though you're 800 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: you're You're absolutely right. I think in the first two 801 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: rounds they got to take a stud right tackles. They 802 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: don't get one in free agency because again we have 803 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: to take that into account. You don't know what they're 804 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna do, of course, right. My other thing is, uh, 805 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: I understand that Kyle Murray just declared for the draft yesterday, 806 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: and I was wondering, is that going to impact what 807 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: the Giants might do now that you'll have besides Haskins, 808 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: you'll have Murray. And I wanted to get your opinion 809 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: on what you thought of Murray being a Heisman Trophy 810 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: winner and whether he could fit into a Giant system 811 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: the way pet has it devised. Well, for me, it's 812 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: unfair to answer, because, as as I've already said on 813 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: the show before, I'm not quite to my tape study yet. 814 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to start doing it at some point in 815 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: the next two weeks leading into the combine, and then 816 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: that's when it gets really hot and heavy. Uh So 817 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: I would really hesitate to say all the then other 818 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: than the people who I have talked to who do 819 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: this for a living, tell me that Haskins is the 820 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: only guaranteed first round quarterback in this draft, and he 821 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: probably should not go higher than fifteen. That's what people 822 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: have told me. These are people who know the stuff, 823 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: and they say if he does go higher than that, 824 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: and he probably will, it's because people are always hungry 825 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: for a quarterback and they'll draft them higher than their rated. 826 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: If Haskins isn't a top ten pick, I'd be blown away. 827 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: The two other guys that I think, or that I've 828 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: been told could sneak into the first round is the 829 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones kid from Duke and Drew Lock. Those are 830 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: the other two guys that could climb into the first round. 831 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: Depending where how desperate people are for quarterbacks will determine 832 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: where they go. But those the other two guys that 833 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: could climb into the first round. The other thing too, 834 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: in terms of Murray, even if he gets drafted this 835 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: year in the nf FELL, it doesn't mean he's gonna 836 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: play football. He's not gonna play right away. Well, what 837 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: if he chooses I'll try football first, now I'll go 838 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 1: to baseball. I don't know how he's going to make 839 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: that decision. You look at Drew Henson, which I think 840 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: is probably the closest to that that right La shows football, 841 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Henson shows baseball. Uh La was obviously so good a football. 842 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: He never went back to baseball. Henson quit baseball, went 843 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: to football. Then he failed at that too, made plenty, 844 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: made plenty of money along the way. They'll buy the way. Um. 845 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: And so you gotta see what Murray tells NFL teams. 846 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: If he tells NFL teams I'm trying baseball first, well 847 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: then he's a day two, day three pick. He's not 848 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: a first round you know what I mean? Okay, Well, 849 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate the insight, guys, thanks again, Yeah, no problem. 850 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: We'll we'll get to all this stuff. Trust me. We're 851 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of time to break this stuff 852 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: down when the appropriate weeks come coming to play. But 853 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: right now it's a little yeah, guys, And I think 854 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: Paul makes a good point. I think at this point, 855 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: trying to assign names to teams is very very premature, 856 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: extremely premature. Just doesn't make a lot of sense. Frangers, 857 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: he has to come first, and that changes needs a lot, 858 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: and that changes teams structure a lot. So to try 859 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: to figure out who what teams are picking who now 860 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: is stupid. It doesn't make any sense. It's count of 861 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: productive or not get anywhere. We can talk about players 862 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: who pol And I haven't looked at yet. So you 863 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: can talk about players if you wan, I'm not gonna 864 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: be able to add anything. We can only give us 865 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: some hearsay exactly. But you know, talking about who's gonna 866 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: get picked where when frangers he hasn't happened yet. It 867 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 1: is probably a little bit crazy, especially give any trades 868 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: happen every year with draft picks too. So let's let's 869 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: let's not get ahead of ourselves. There is one relevant 870 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: point to all of this, though, that I think we 871 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: have to make very clear, and it's in spite of 872 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: the fact that the Giants have always been a best 873 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: player available team whenever possible. They've been a couple of 874 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: times they've veered off for that and it didn't always work. 875 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: But even Dave Gentleman, who says I want to take 876 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: the best player available, go to the highest rated guy 877 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: on your board at the time you pick, even he 878 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: has said you can never go into the draft saying 879 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: I need X, because if you do that, you will 880 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: warp your sensibilities. You will wind up elevating that need 881 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: far more than it needs to be. And then you're 882 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: going to wind up making a mistake. He's flat out 883 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: told us that to our faces. So yes, it does 884 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: tell you that free agency has a significant impact on 885 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: who you draft because of not so much the need 886 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: but the lack of need. After you feel spots in 887 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: free agency and you're laughing hysterically about something. Did you 888 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: see the tweet from Andrew at all about Blue eighty 889 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: eight John with the rumors of Kylo Mury heading to 890 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: the NFLO Draft? Can you already confirm that he has 891 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: Lance Meadows quarterback one this year? Oh my? You know why? 892 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: A right? He's sure. It's it's always likes the tiny guys. Yeah, 893 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: but can't be fair. Drew Brees is really good. And 894 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: actually that's as Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson, who I had 895 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: dubbed a system quarterback early in his career anymore since 896 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: he came back from his high ankle sprain and m 897 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: c L I think it was an m c L injury. 898 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: His last three years he has developed into a much 899 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: more complete quarterback and far far outperformed what I thought 900 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: his ceiling was. And so, you know, I don't know 901 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: if I've ever said I'd take it back but I 902 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: do take it back. Well, I mean, it's a right 903 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: to analyze his first couple of years and say, well, 904 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: he won because they had a great defense day and 905 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: more Shawn Lynch, which was the reason, by the way, 906 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: But he developed, he got better and that thanks for change. Absolutely. 907 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: Let's go to lend in Maryland. He's up next. What's 908 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: up Land? How are you buddy? Hey, how are you doing? 909 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 1: Let's go on? Thanks, Hey, Paul, how are you all right? Good? 910 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: Good John? Thanks for the shout out earlier. Um, I 911 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: just wanted to add something to to your take on 912 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: what I gave you yesterday. Two things which I think 913 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: make a strong a case for even make a stronger 914 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: case for ELI. Has to do with first downs passing. 915 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,959 Speaker 1: He was eighth in first sounds passing. And there's something 916 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: about that percentage um interception percentage rate that just I mean, 917 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: it sticks with me less than two and by my 918 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: way of thinking, that's pretty good in the NFL. And 919 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 1: that's pretty good given that Giant's team. Think of something 920 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: that Dave Gettleman told us in the presser when he said, 921 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: look at the second half of the season, look at 922 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: the points we scored, and he started rattling off the numbers, 923 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: and then he said, you know what, if you just 924 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: look at ELI stats, not too shabby at all. And 925 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: he and he had a real he had a real 926 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: uh piece of emotion when he said that. And consider 927 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: that in the first half of the season he was 928 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: dealing with three different offensive lines that weren't very good, 929 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: that was was not really given him much of anything 930 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: to work with, and they were one in seven and 931 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: its statistically, he did wind up so high in so 932 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: many different levels. That shows you how sensational he was 933 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: in the second half of the year. Yeah, I agree, 934 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: I agree. You know, I think I hope he's you know, 935 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: I think it's September eight is opening day. I hope 936 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: he's the quarterback. I think it's probably going to take 937 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 1: some kind of extension. I he's not going to play 938 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: on that one year contract. There's going to have to 939 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: be something beyond that. And and frankly, I'm okay with that. 940 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Pa Paul, You've mentioned something on 941 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday which I thought was just you made 942 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: an excellent point regarding the draft, and I frankly had 943 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: been thinking along the same lines. We got to get 944 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: back into that third round. Um, I'm I'm counting, you know, 945 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm counting Beal as part of this draft class. But 946 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: I keep thinking, I keep thinking of what we were 947 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: able to do last year with that second third round pick. 948 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: We really came out of that draft with with four players. Now, 949 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: it took Carter to about game eight to begin to 950 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: make a you know, a real mark for himself and 951 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: to be an integral part of the rotation. But I 952 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: think it's if we can get to a round pick 953 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: eighty five and that, which is about halfway through that 954 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: third round. Um, I think I think we can. I 955 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: think we can nail four starters in this in this draft, 956 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: and I think that's awfully important. It's a long way. 957 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, Bill would have been if if if we 958 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: if if Bill had stayed in and we had picked 959 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: him in the third round, he would have been about seventy. UM. 960 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: But our second round, you know, our second round pick 961 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: is thirty seven. Um. If you go thirty seven to 962 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: a hundred and two, which is about our fourth round pick, 963 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: maybe higher, because I'm not counting the competent, you can't 964 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: do that's that's a that's a lot of football players 965 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: coming off the board. That's not good. You can't do it, 966 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: then we can't do it. We gotted it was somehow 967 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: we got to get back into the middle or the 968 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: back end. Not the compics at the end of the 969 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: third round, but somewhere in that third round. We've got 970 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: to get that, you know, we've got to get that 971 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: fourth player. So I thought that was an excellent point. 972 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: You know you made on Monday and Tuesday. Um, I 973 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: know John John's going down to Uh, he's going down 974 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. Uh, John, Just just a couple, 975 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean there were many. I mean, the guy Little 976 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: from is really good as a you know, as a 977 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: tackle prospect. I don't like I don't think Little Williams, 978 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: but Lynn Little is not at the Senior Bowl. I 979 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: don't think, oh well he probably. Yeah. The guys who 980 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: were that high really don't go, do they. I mean, 981 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: the round trying to get into the first round, who 982 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: really go? Who? But there's a guy at Wisconsin and 983 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: they had some offensive line. I think their whole offensive 984 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: line was the All Big Ten first team offensive line. 985 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: Um Williams possible second round, possible second round pick at 986 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: thirty seven, and there, you know me, I can't get 987 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: away from the center position. Uh. The kid at Mississippi State, 988 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: hopefully he lasts till thirty seven. Maybe that's a guy 989 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 1: who's um, you know who's there in that second round. 990 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: And be careful now, because you can only have so 991 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: many first level priorities. And while I I say to you, hey, 992 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: it's great to upgrade as many spots on the old 993 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: line as you can, quite frankly, the right tackle spot 994 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: is the weakest link of all and the one that 995 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: is glaring, and that's got to be the priority on 996 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: the line. Center doesn't, right, You have to, you know, 997 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: we have to look at that. I think we have 998 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: to look at that position as being the number one. 999 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: I got a tiered um Uh. And of course I've 1000 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: been harping on this for you know a number of years. 1001 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: And also I think the offensive line has been the 1002 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: longest problem or the problem that we've had the longest 1003 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: on the team, and it's just time to fix it. Paul. 1004 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: So my my top tier, given draft, free agency trades, 1005 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: whatever I want center and right tackle. That's what we gotta. 1006 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: We got to clear up this offensive line problem. Um. 1007 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: The second tier, I mean I got free safety, I 1008 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: got edge rusher, Um, I got cornerback and hopefully, you know, 1009 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: hopefully Bill fills that spot and then drop into a 1010 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: third tier. I got wide receiver and I got right guard. 1011 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be disappointed if the whole right side of 1012 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: the offensive line, including the center, got changed. But that's 1013 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: that's just me. But um, I'm with you, Paul, right tackle, center, center, 1014 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: right tackle by free agency trades, second round in the draft. 1015 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: We gotta fill that spot. We gotta fill those spots. Len, 1016 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: I love you. If edge rusher isn't one of your 1017 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: top two prior these, you're doing something wrong. Yeah, it's 1018 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: gotta be. It's gotta be. Just can't get off that 1019 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: offensive line. Well, then you're gonna stop anyway. I got you, 1020 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 1: I got you. It's just been so long that we've 1021 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: talked about this offensive line not being right. Yeah, but yeah, 1022 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: but you don't. You don't need five studs to have 1023 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 1: a good offensive line. You don't have to have five studs. 1024 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm not looking for well, I'm looking for upgrades, Paul. 1025 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, geez, we gotta get started. I'll tell you 1026 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: why you were guys who can at least start. Here's 1027 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: here's here's here's where I'm kind of agreeing and disagreeing 1028 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: with you. All right, I'm disagreeing with you because I 1029 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: think solder Hernandez Pully, I'm a Pulley guy, and and 1030 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: Brown are fine. And if you get a stud right 1031 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: tackle to go with those four, I like that five right. 1032 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: If you're if you're keeping Brown and Pulley, then you 1033 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,919 Speaker 1: need a stud right tackle and that's it. And that's 1034 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: it to start. Now, Now I had right guard on 1035 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: my on my third tier. Well, you do you think 1036 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: browning of the seventh position? See that's the seventh spot. Um, 1037 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 1: I understand. I think the other six were you know 1038 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: above that we gotta and we gotta fix those. You know, 1039 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 1: it's it's we gotta have an edge rusher. I'm hoping 1040 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: that maybe it's Olivier full season. We get more out 1041 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: of Hill, you know those kinds of things. And um, 1042 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: you know with this hybrid three four, we get we 1043 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: get more sacks, we get more pressure in the quarterback 1044 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: mid round. The big guy at the middle in the middle, 1045 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: you know who can push the center back, Um, you 1046 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: know would be big as well, Leon Lenlon. You have 1047 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson, he's your nose tackle. They traded Snacks Harrison 1048 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: to put Dalvin Thomason a nose tackle. He's your guy there. Yeah, 1049 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: listen he listen. Tomlinson played better than I thought he 1050 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 1: was gonna play at no tackle. I'm just I want 1051 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: to if he's the nose tackle John, I want to 1052 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: see one more season before I annoint him as a 1053 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,280 Speaker 1: long term answer at that position. I I understand he played, 1054 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: he played, Okay, I just want to see it one 1055 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: more year to anoint him. And for anything, we got 1056 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: to get it back up. That's why I was so 1057 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: big on that kid from Virginia Tech last year, Settled 1058 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: who went to the Redskins a round six, because I 1059 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: think we needed somebody behind Snacks and not have to 1060 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 1: disrupt thom Wilson from playing on the outside and put 1061 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: him in as a substitute for Sex. All right, we're 1062 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: going too deep into the Snacks for we have so 1063 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: many months to analyze those draft needs. Please, let's go 1064 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: to Jeff in Long Island. He's up next, Jeff. What's 1065 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: going on? Pal A high, guys, Before I get into 1066 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: my main point, he earlier in the show, you were 1067 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: talking about plays that we passing, plays that we missed 1068 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: with Eli. And there's just one play I wanted to 1069 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 1: bring up. And it wasn't a big long pass play. 1070 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: It was maybe ten yards fifteen yards to the left 1071 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: side flat, but it happened at certain times, at very 1072 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: importan moments in Giant history, at least in recent history. 1073 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: And that was against Dallas, of all teams. Both times 1074 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: the same play, and the recipients were a Monti Tumor 1075 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: and Victor Cruz And I think maybe you know what 1076 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's a simple outroute. Yeah, that's all. 1077 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: But you know what, it was a perfect play in 1078 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: the and the fact that it didn't require uh uh 1079 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: the Elis skill set to throw into a tiny window. 1080 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: It mounted, it required the team to provide the right 1081 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: type of blocking, and it was just a beautiful play 1082 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: to watch and to see it imitated by Victor Cruz 1083 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: in in two thousand eleven, after Monty did that in 1084 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. It was just a very nice play. 1085 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: And I missed that and the out and the up 1086 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: was the one the Cruise ran. But here's the thing, 1087 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: I do get it. I mean, as upset I as 1088 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: I am about some of these things disappearing from the 1089 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: playbook over the last few years. I understand that the 1090 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 1: coaches got queasy because of the lack of a consistent 1091 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: running game and the lack of a good, solid offensive line. 1092 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: They got queasy with the playbook and started shrinking the 1093 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: playbook and said, you know what, this isn't a gamble 1094 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: that's we're willing to take. We got to shrink the 1095 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 1: playbook because these guys aren't providing the other necessary ingredients. 1096 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: So as upset as I am, I do understand the 1097 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 1: logic behind the reason they got that way, and I 1098 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: understand too, So we move on, We move forward. The 1099 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 1: main point I wanted to bring up was, you know, 1100 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: we we've talked about stats earlier in terms of how 1101 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: the newer running backs, newer running quarterbacks are high on 1102 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: the list in quarterback sacks. And my question basically is 1103 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: the teams that have um gone for those running quarterbacks 1104 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: or at least very mobile quarterbacks, are they taking them 1105 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: because they're saying to themselves or the the gms, the 1106 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: you know, the uh professional staff, they're saying, well, you know, 1107 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 1: our lines aren't good enough, our old lines aren't good enough, 1108 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: and that we need somebody mobile. Are they, you know? 1109 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: Because the only the only uh uh flying. The ointment 1110 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: is that in terms of Dak Prescott, you know, and 1111 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: his old line, he's sort of inherited old line from uh, 1112 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: you know, uh from Dallas, but because Romo. But I 1113 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: was just wondering, do you feel that general managers, you know, 1114 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: are are are assuming that you know, they're old lines 1115 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,280 Speaker 1: don't have to be as good with the running quarterback now, Jeff, honestly, 1116 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I think they did not draft to Shaun 1117 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: Watson because he could run. They drafted the Shawn Watson 1118 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 1: beause they think he could throw. You know, Josh Allen 1119 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: being mobile was great, but they drafted him because of 1120 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,439 Speaker 1: his arm talent. You know, Dak Prescott was a fourth 1121 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: round pick. He was a fourth round pick because he 1122 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,479 Speaker 1: wasn't inaccurate and he had that the off the field 1123 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: this year with the d uy You know, generally speaking, 1124 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: teams aren't taking chances on quarterbacks because they can run. 1125 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 1: They think they're guys that can pass but can also run. 1126 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: And I don't think general managers are fool enough to 1127 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: think that a mobile quarterback fixes a bad offensive line. 1128 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: You might be able to buy more time, you might 1129 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 1: be able to help yourself out a little bit, but 1130 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: in the end, it's still gonna come and bite you 1131 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: in the butt. You need to block whether or not 1132 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: your quarterback is mobile or not. Well, I understand that, 1133 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: and I I and I I look at the last weekend, 1134 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,919 Speaker 1: and especially Jackson and Baltimore who had really very poor 1135 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: pocket presence and and and his quote unquote escapability wasn't 1136 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: there at all for the most part. And and the 1137 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: way I look at it, you know, I'm I'm an 1138 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: Ernie a Corsi fan, and when I look at quarterbacks, 1139 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, I have to really scrutinize who's out there. 1140 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: And I'm sure Dave Gettleman is sometimes it takes a 1141 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: look at at Ernie's playbook in the way he evalued 1142 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: in the way Ernie evaluated Eli in the draft for 1143 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: that year. And I'm hoping that that he doesn't uh, 1144 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he will be the same show the 1145 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: same type of scrutiny because it's it's a very hard thing. 1146 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: And really the only quarterback that I I see in 1147 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: the last seven eight years who really came out and 1148 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: has really shown what he is is is Uh. I 1149 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: was gonna say all of the luck, but Andrew Luck. 1150 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: So the look, but basically he's the last really true 1151 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: stand up quarterback that's been in the draft for the 1152 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: last seven eight years. Okay, we appreciate the call, thanks 1153 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot. Josh Rosen's the pocket quarterback. Sam Donald moved, 1154 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: but he's a pocket quarterback. Baker Mayfield ca move, but 1155 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: he's a pocket quarterback. These are guys that want to throw. 1156 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: They don't want to run the ball. They might go 1157 00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: to move a little bit, but there guys that want 1158 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: us six. He from the pocket, and and Jock, by 1159 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 1: the way, you can run too, but he's a guy 1160 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: that wants to throw. And DeShawn Watson wants to throw. 1161 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: His first option isn't to run. I mean I could 1162 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: count on two hands how many times even ran the 1163 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: read option with DeShawn Watson this year. He's a thrower 1164 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,439 Speaker 1: of the ball. Carson wins is a thrower of the ball. 1165 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: They use their mobility to compliment what they do with 1166 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: their arms. And Lamar Jackson is a different category. The 1167 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: way they use him this year is unique, correct, and 1168 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: you can kind of put him off to the side 1169 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: and he's kind of in his own group to me, 1170 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: the same way the Redskins use RG three in his 1171 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: rookie year. Those guys are kind of, at least to me, 1172 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: in the same group on their own. But Russell Wilson, look, 1173 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: you can run, but they want to throw with him. 1174 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Dak Prescott can run and they do a 1175 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: couple design runs with him, but Scott Lenahan uses him 1176 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: as a pocket passer. That's what the NFL is. You 1177 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: cannot survive as a quarterback that's a run first player 1178 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, it just doesn't work long term. In 1179 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: reference to his question, and I know we're running out 1180 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 1: of time, I got one more guy. I simply want 1181 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: to say this, uh, he asked, You know, are teams 1182 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: looking for those kinds of guys because they know about 1183 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: their lines? Well, there's no question. Over the last many 1184 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: years now, and it goes back probably at least a 1185 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,479 Speaker 1: half a dozen NFL teams are having a harder time 1186 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: finding quality offensive line and coming out of the n 1187 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: C double A ranks. That's just the fact. It's either 1188 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: because of the schemes that they're playing or guys just 1189 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: aren't being taught to fundamentals and now it takes so 1190 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: much time to groom them when they get here. And 1191 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 1: with the new CBA they don't have the opportunity to 1192 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: teach them. Sure, so you're having a much harder time 1193 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: as a pro personnel director acquiring and building offensive lines. 1194 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: So the lazy way out is, well, go get the 1195 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, Go get the running quarterback, because we just 1196 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: can't spend the elbow grease to go get the offensive 1197 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: line that we need to protect our pocket pass right. 1198 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:54,919 Speaker 1: But do you think the Seahawks are saying we don't 1199 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 1: need to improve our offensive line because we have Russell Wilson. 1200 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I think there are there are teams that under stand 1201 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: that if we don't get our offensive line fixed, we're 1202 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: not gonna go very far. Our quarterback is gonna wind 1203 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: up on ancient reserve Andrew Luck last year. It's you know, 1204 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: teams want to but I do think in the meantime 1205 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: they think, well, if they can get the more mobile guy, 1206 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,919 Speaker 1: take the lazy way out. Get that guy first, see 1207 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: if he can survive, and we'll buy some time until 1208 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: we can try to fix the line for him. I 1209 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: do think that happens in a lot of cases. Anyway, 1210 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: final call the show, and by the way, it was 1211 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: all brought to you by Corps Light. Download the cores 1212 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Light Awards after an amazing Giants prizes is Michael long Island. Mike, 1213 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: what's up, hi, guys? How are you hi? Mike? I 1214 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: just got under the wire. I guess I'm gonna talk 1215 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: about ELI and our next quarterback. I'm gonna played general manager. 1216 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: And I think you guys are gonna think I'm crazy. Okay, 1217 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try this anyway. I would extend ELI 1218 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: for another year, say some money on the cap. We're 1219 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna probably have eleven draft picks this year, maybe a 1220 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: little less. And I want to prepare. I want draft capital. 1221 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,479 Speaker 1: I want to start trading these a couple of draft picks, 1222 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 1: uh for next year. And I want to start saving 1223 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: a lot of capital for Trevor Lawrence. Remember Trevor Lawrence. 1224 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Mike is a next year Trevor Lawrence is. Yes, Yes, 1225 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: I know that it's gonna take time to get a 1226 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: lot of capital. See, Mike, here's the problem. I I 1227 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 1: understand what you're trying to do, but I'm gonna give 1228 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: you the nightmare scenario that makes your plan faulty. And 1229 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: and here's what it is you got. And let's say 1230 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: the Giants, let's say they even have a high pick 1231 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 1: Let's say they're picking eighth that year. Now that's that 1232 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: that that's real bad news of the art. But let's 1233 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: say they are picking eighth. Okay, what happens if you're 1234 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: sitting there and the team with the worst record in 1235 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: football is picking first, they don't have a quarterback. You 1236 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: you could offer them a billion picks. They're gonna want 1237 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: to take Trevor Lawrence. So that's why it's impossible to 1238 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: plan just for one guy. It's one thing like last year, 1239 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: where you have three or four guys that maybe can play, 1240 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: and you you know, you gather capital to get one 1241 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: of those four because you figure you can figure out 1242 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: what to get one of the four, right, But if 1243 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: you can't just target one guy because there's no guarantee 1244 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,439 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be able again. For example, when Andrew 1245 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: Luck came out, um whatever, six seven years ago, now right, 1246 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: the Colts wouldn't have traded that pick for anything in 1247 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the world. Anything in the world. They would have traded 1248 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: that pick, which is why you can't just target one guy. 1249 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: The same thing when Peyton Manning came out, they wouldn't 1250 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: have to pick for anything in the world. And by 1251 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 1: the way, John John is making such a good point 1252 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: off of what you just said, it makes sense that 1253 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: in when they're supposed to be a handful of high 1254 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 1: quality Herbert. Well, now you can start playing around with well, 1255 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: how do we want to maneuver ourselves to get into 1256 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: the neighborhood to get one of those guys. Yeah, and 1257 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: again it's not just targeting guy. It's looking for one 1258 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: guy out of a group. Right you listen, you know 1259 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a dummy. I understand what you're saying. 1260 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 1: But you know I would still try to get draft 1261 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: capital capital with the eleven pick step we're gonna have, 1262 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: and we could move around. You know, don't get me wrong. 1263 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about trading a fifth this year or you know, 1264 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: for a fourth next year. They usually do that right 1265 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: where if you are willing to give up a fifth, 1266 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: you might get a fourth for the next year if 1267 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: you give it up. Mike. No, Mike, Mike, I think 1268 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: that part of your plan is absolutely perfect. I would 1269 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: do the same thing. You have so many picks, you know, 1270 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: if they want to say, trade their fourth round pick 1271 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: this year to pick up a third round pick next year, 1272 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: I'd be a hundred percent in favor of doing stuff 1273 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: like that, to try to give yourself capital moving forward 1274 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: to go get the quarterback whenever it becomes possible. That 1275 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: I have no problem with. I'm all with the on that. 1276 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea. And remember the other 1277 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: thing is they could always trade a player or two. 1278 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: You could always play trade a player or two for 1279 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: a pick. And to I think upon how you maneuver 1280 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 1: your free agency situation is all season. You always have 1281 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: to keep in mind you may get compensatory the following 1282 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 1: years as well. That's right. Anyway, listen, raft capital fort 1283 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: and the year raft. That's what I say. Sounds good. 1284 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That good stuff. Thanks for the call 1285 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 1: and look, and I have no problem with accumulating capital. 1286 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: So you can put yourself in the position to find 1287 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: your quarterback eventually. Because I'll say it again, and this 1288 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: is what I'll close the show on, Paul. The most 1289 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: important thing this regime does is transfer from Eli Manning 1290 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: to the next guy that's gonna determine what the long 1291 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 1: term success the franchises. So you've gotta figure out the 1292 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: best way to do that. And you can't force it. 1293 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: Just like Dave Gentleman said, you can't force something like that. 1294 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: You have to let it come, but you can run 1295 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: your organization, manage your assets, manage your draft capital to 1296 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 1: give yourself the best chance possible to make that transition 1297 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: in the in the best possible way. So that's what 1298 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: I think the challenges for Dave Getleman here is to 1299 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: do that while at the same time trying to improve 1300 01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 1: the team in the present and get them better to 1301 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: make a plan. There are so many mechanisms you can 1302 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 1: use to affect your draft bushel or basket if you will. 1303 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 1: I think the perfect scenario for them would be and 1304 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: I think it can be done in a variety of 1305 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 1: different ways. Is to get the ability to trade up 1306 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 1: into the top hundred, like what lenn was saying before, 1307 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: and I said this week on the show, try to 1308 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: get more picks in the top one but also at 1309 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 1: the same time, because they may have eleven picks this 1310 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 1: year and there's always the possibility of more compensatories next 1311 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: year or maybe trades, try to also at the same 1312 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: time compile a couple of extra picks for the following year. 1313 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 1: I think it can be done. Look, you can move 1314 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: in and can be and we and this I said 1315 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: this with the last yesterday. I don't think getting another 1316 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: second round picks realistic with what you have. But if 1317 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: you want to move into the middle or back into 1318 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: the third round, the top packaging a couple of fours, 1319 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: you can do that. Top one hundred, you can do it. 1320 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: You can do that anyway, all right, thanks for joining us, everybody. 1321 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: Reminder big we could go five Voice presented by cores Light. 1322 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: Download the cores Light Rewards. After an amazing Giants prizes 1323 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: in the off season for Paul the Tim John Smoke, 1324 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm out with Figgles. Tomorrow we preview the divisional playoffs. 1325 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you then, Audios.