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Speaker 1: and sometimes that's how it goes. He went, He went

426
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Speaker 1: up in my estimation like this series. Like I I

427
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: always thought he was good, but like you know, I

428
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 1: thought he might have a few more playoff games like

429
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Speaker 1: the I think he went five or eighteen. You know

430
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Speaker 1: in game three, I thought I thought he might do

431
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Speaker 1: that a couple more times with the amen and job

432
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Speaker 1: forty seven tonight really really shows a lot a lot

433
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Speaker 1: about Booker. But yeah, like you, like you said, maker

434
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Speaker 1: mis league, like the jump segment exactly. I also just

435
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Speaker 1: want to say, like I really appreciate, like the guy

436
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: said before, like you guys is content and like you know,

437
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: like your video showing how clogged. The pain is when

438
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: like Lebron drives in there, you know, it's by five

439
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: people in there. It's like, you know, it's nice to

440
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 1: see people addressing that online, you know, And I appreciate

441
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Speaker 1: you will. Thanks for coming on, man, and uh come

442
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: on any time with us for sure. Hopefully you know,

443
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: I think next season will be better. But yeah, hope

444
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: believe man, appreciate you. Bro. Jay are you there? What's up? Fellows?

445
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? Honestly, Man, I'm chilling. I'm gonna

446
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: tell you guys. I'm gonna tell you guys wanted chewing

447
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: this whole this whole season. I know we want to

448
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: bring up the twenty one and six. I know what

449
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: points in the season. Um, the Lakers look dominant in

450
00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: some quarters personally just watching it compared to last year. Um,

451
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this comes down to point Lebron

452
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: Verse splitting the playmaking responsibilities because he's thirty six. The

453
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: biggest thing this year that fell off, like the entire season.

454
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Speaker 1: Part of this is injuries and continuity. It's just I

455
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: don't want to say basketball i Q, but it's more

456
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: of just the execution of the basketball plays right, Like

457
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: there's very few times I reflect on this season and

458
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that the Lakers actually executed you know,

459
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 1: ten straight players in our own offense and and they

460
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: won the game. It was just blown lead after blown lead. Um.

461
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: Really weird defensive mistakes. Um. The turnovers drove me crazy

462
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: all year. So as as much as it sucks to

463
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: losing this way where it's like both our stars are out, um,

464
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: I think you know, as long as we have those

465
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: two guys next here will be straight. So the one

466
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Speaker 1: question I wanted to ask you is, though, what what

467
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Speaker 1: do you do? What do you think it takes for

468
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Speaker 1: a D two commit to a full season of playing center?

469
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: Like what gets into that stage? Like? I know, right,

470
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: I know this year we we we can't really we

471
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: couldn't ask him to do that because he was injured

472
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: from the finals, shortest offseason. He didn't look right all season.

473
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: I think we all can agree on that. But I

474
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Speaker 1: think when I think back of last season, right, like,

475
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: we played two big so much the season and we

476
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Speaker 1: have to table that in the playoffs because the best

477
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Speaker 1: liners were a D at the five, and I feel

478
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Speaker 1: like we were robbed that this season. So honestly, we

479
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 1: could talk about getting a third playmaker. We can talk

480
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: about getting some shooters, some defenders. This team is going

481
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Speaker 1: to run off Lebron James and a D and they

482
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Speaker 1: obviously have a lot of the team. But I think

483
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Speaker 1: a D has to play the five, right, No, that's

484
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Speaker 1: a great question, And like I think A D is

485
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: kind of addressed it, right, He's kind of said, Um,

486
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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play the five. He doesn't like

487
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Speaker 1: the physicality, and like Jason always talks about, like how

488
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of counterintuitive because it kind of it's more

489
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Speaker 1: physical to kind of play the power forward the way

490
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Speaker 1: that we kind of use it. Um. But yeah, I

491
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Speaker 1: think that's where he's that kind of with that, and

492
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: I don't see that changing anytime soon. And I'm not

493
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: sure like it really has to. Um, I think there

494
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: are enough fives out there that are serviceable during the

495
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Speaker 1: regular season, and I think A D will play the

496
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Speaker 1: five when it matters. Um, he did this year. At

497
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: least he should have, um if if he played meaningful minutes.

498
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: But he obviously doesn't want to play that position. And

499
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of have to go as your

500
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: superstars kind of want to there. And and he's a

501
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: crazy force at the four. As well, and you know

502
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: he can be an insane health defender. And I think

503
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: you're right. Him at center is his most his best

504
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: sent his best position to be utilized. That it's just

505
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Speaker 1: he does not want to play that position. So I

506
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: don't know what we'll get him there. Um, maybe next

507
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: year if the roster is kind of really down with

508
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: fives and maybe he'll start at center. But it's very

509
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Speaker 1: clear that he doesn't want to and and I think

510
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Speaker 1: there's still a chance that he doesn't have to, Like

511
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Speaker 1: do you have Marcus s al that's a center that

512
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Speaker 1: should be able to play now. Andre Drummond was an

513
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Speaker 1: experiment that obviously they were trying and they really believed in. Um,

514
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: and I think the Andrew Drummond thing might have worked

515
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Speaker 1: with a healthy on an A D will never will

516
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: never know, Like we'll just never know that that never

517
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: got the chance to to get off the ground where

518
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: the ground room floor. So that's where I'm at with that. Man,

519
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would love for a D to

520
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: play center a full season. That's just not something he

521
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: wants to do. And and I think the Lakers have

522
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: to work around at That's just how it is. Yeah,

523
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: just one just one quick thing. Like I think personally,

524
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Speaker 1: I do think it's a little overboard to say that

525
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Speaker 1: we need him to play the center at the whole,

526
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, the whole season, right, But what he needs

527
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: to do, in my opinion, is he needs to come

528
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: out from the from the gates. Just come out scorching, right.

529
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: He takes so long to find his rhythm in season.

530
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: And I get that he's six ft eighteen in his

531
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: arms are are longer than anybody you've ever seen. So

532
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: it's like it's probably just hard for him to get

533
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Speaker 1: in rhythm. If he comes out and stops with the

534
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: posting up for ten seconds every possession to start, you know,

535
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: the first three weeks of the season, and gets out

536
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Speaker 1: with the ball in the perimeter and increases his ball

537
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: hidling and driving to the rim. I think that's gonna

538
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: that that takes so much pressure off with broad one,

539
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: but I think it will help him just be more

540
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: durable um in the long term. And I know it's

541
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: kind of intuitive, but my thinking is he goes from

542
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: from playing to playing slower than a lot of players

543
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Speaker 1: in the league. I don't know if that makes sense, No,

544
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: for sure, yeah, man, he does. He has a he

545
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: has a really he hasn't like the knack to kind

546
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: of be passive a lot right, like like he would

547
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: like give Dennis Shrew the ball like on a lot

548
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: of possessions. And and you know, he had these quotes

549
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: about I'm trying to fit in, right, I'm like, you know,

550
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: you're Anthony Davis. You don't fit in like you. They

551
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: fit in around you. So he has he has those

552
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of tendencies that happens a lot um. And you know,

553
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a motor problem. It's just that's

554
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: just who he is sometimes. But you know, on the

555
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: biggest stage in the playoffs, um, he had great games

556
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: and even this series, man, people will forget his Game

557
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: two and Game three performances. Um, but you know he

558
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: thirty four points, thirty five points, I think, going to

559
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: the line seventeen times. And those are the real barometers

560
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: for me when you can tell where Anthony Davis is

561
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: having an engaged in Anthony Davis game, his free throw

562
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: attempts and his offensive rebounding, that really tells me that

563
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the story for him and and I think that would

564
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: be the same for next year. So we'll see. Hopefully

565
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: he can be healthy all year next year, and obviously

566
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: think the injury concerns are kind of overblown and all

567
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: that stuff. I also think like the center powerful ward

568
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: thing is also a little bit more overblown than it

569
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: than it needs to be. Um. If he's playing next

570
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: to Lebron James Um, those two are a terror that

571
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: if they're healthy, they'll be a terror and in very

572
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: many lineups. And I think the Lakers will be able

573
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: to find the right the right people to put around them.

574
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: J I appreciate you, man. Let's see if I can

575
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: bring some people up here. Yep, thanks See Chris, are

576
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: you there? N what's going on? Yeah? I don't know.

577
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm contemplating the Lakers right now. I just I knew

578
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: things weren't gonna be good from the jump when we

579
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: didn't sign with gen Rondo because we needed that leadership

580
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: for the team. But I still have faith in Lebron.

581
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: So the Sun's games come, he cuts Crowder. I respect

582
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: that disrespecting people on the court, but when it's prime

583
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: time ready to go, you're letting the fans the fans matter,

584
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: but you're letting your teammates down like you're on the ground.

585
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: You're not getting back on defense Taylor, Horn and Tucker

586
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: and the fourth quarter goes on a little run. You're

587
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 1: down by only ten points, thirteen points, and you're not

588
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: even getting back on defense. You leave h you leave Chris,

589
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Paul Open and Jake Crowder Like, I just think Brian

590
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: bron might need to call it and in like maybe

591
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: a year if you don't make another, if he loses

592
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: in the first round again, you gotta retury. That's like,

593
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: oh man, Like, I know that's the reach, but I'm

594
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: just saying for him to save his legacy. Like go

595
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: on to ech stream, bro play a war zone and

596
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: you're good, Like, stop taking l if you won't send

597
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: a handle the business. Oh Man, Chris, I I appreciate

598
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: you calling up well. First of all, with lebron Man,

599
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: we got an m v P type season before the

600
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Solomon Hill kind of injury to his thakle. Um, he

601
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: was playing at m v P level. He was playing

602
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 1: at the top of his game. Um, he was actually

603
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: better than he was last year in my opinion, like

604
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: just in the regular season. Um, he was having a fantastic,

605
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: fantastic year. And it will never know how he killed

606
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: he felt from that right, Like, will never actually know. Um,

607
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: he'll never kind of say it, but he's talked about

608
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: it how he's not, and it just never looked like

609
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: he was. But even even with that, like in health,

610
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: when he got his healthy team, like the Lakers were

611
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: up to one in this series, within eleven point lead

612
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: in Game four, like that's that's legitimately what happened, and

613
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: then a d went out at halftime, they Rochelle shocked.

614
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: Um went for Game five. That crowd wasn't absolutely in

615
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: their head. The Lakers could not. The Lakers shooters were scared.

616
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: You could see it. And then and then tonight. Man,

617
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: you're right though a lot of players where Lebron let

618
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: the referees get in his head. Um where you know

619
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: he would drive, didn't get the call and would just

620
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: stay on the offensive end, wouldn't run back and Phoenix

621
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: will get a three, and a lot of those the

622
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: game was already over, to be honest, like that th

623
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: HD run. They were still down I think thirteen after

624
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: his after his tip Dunkum. But you're right, man, some

625
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: of that body language wasn't great from Lebron. You could

626
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: tell he thought it was over. Um and and him

627
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: right there real quick, what's up? I just wanted to say,

628
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: like on that point, like the referees getting in his head.

629
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: I also didn't like a shot selection once, like things

630
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: were getting like a little physical for him, Like, Lebron,

631
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: you've been playing in the league for almost fifteen years now,

632
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: Like these dudes were like going to your basketball camps,

633
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Like you gotta dominate these dudes. You're letting these You're

634
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: letting these dudes plunk you right now on the core.

635
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: And then once Lebron takes starts taking crazy shots, I

636
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: think all his teammates start to conform and take crazy shots. Yeah. Man,

637
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: well he tried to hit some like transition threes, and

638
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: I thought there were sometimes where his teammates didn't find

639
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: him to when he was in the post um they

640
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: were being really physical with the man. Credit to Phoenix Um.

641
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: They really packed the paint um, they pinched all the nails.

642
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: They went, they pinched the nails so he couldn't drive

643
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: and just dared our shooters to make shots. And Wes

644
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: Matthews hit a few tonight, but still Lebron would try

645
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: to get in the paint, try to get some contact.

646
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: They weren't giving him those those and ones, those calls,

647
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: and he missed a few at the rim um, but

648
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, credit to Phoenix man, they did a great

649
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: job being really physical with him, um getting frustrated and uh,

650
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: this was one of his lower series. Man, he didn't

651
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: even score thirty. I don't think in this series one time,

652
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: and um that I don't think that's Lebron. I don't

653
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: think that's playoff Lebron. So hopefully next year he'll be

654
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: a little more healthy in these series. And what do

655
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: you think? What do you think about Vogan personally? I

656
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: don't like Vogel because when Paul George and those Indiana

657
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Pacers they started getting smoked, it was a good series.

658
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: But Vogel has never been a good coach. Like he

659
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: always loses in the first round like all the time.

660
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: So like I just don't understand like the point of

661
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: that signing, Like there's so many other coaches you guys

662
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: could have got. I just feel like they just get

663
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: whichever coach just were like right Lebron, like right Lebron,

664
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: Like Lebron can do anything. That's what it looks like.

665
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: When you say the shooters are scared, I think they

666
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: like scared Lebron kind of because they they're Fenna go

667
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: work at McDonald's if they ain't playing for the Lakers.

668
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: So so Vogel, Man, he's he had us as the

669
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: number one defense all year, even without Lebron and a

670
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: D missing a ton of time. Is he the best

671
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: offensive coach? No? Is he really slow making counters? Yeah,

672
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: he takes his time with that, but he didn't get

673
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: the chance this year. Man, he coached the hell of

674
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: the playoff series last year. Coach this team which had

675
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: people in and out of the lineup all year, and

676
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the coach next year. He's a good coach, um.

677
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: If you if you remember, they signed Vogel before they

678
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: even got Anthony Davis, So they had Lebron, James, they

679
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: had all the kids, um and and that's when they

680
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: got Vogel. And and you know, he wouldn't have been

681
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: the coach if Lebron wasn't you know, if Lebron wasn't

682
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: accepting of it as well. So I think both of

683
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: them have a great relationship. They're both really basketball minded people.

684
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: And I think he's a good coach. I don't think

685
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: he was the issue this season. Chris. I appreciate you,

686
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: manum get some more. I appreciate you. Bro Okay, bro Basilio,

687
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: are ei there? Oy? My guy? Are you I can

688
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: hear you? What'sever? Bro Old? Well? You know no, then

689
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: I we were spid, but you know I joined. I

690
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: want to tell you, I know, in the mood to

691
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: talk about the game. You know, I'm pretty sad. I

692
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: know you you may may be sat too. Well. Can

693
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: you tell me your hopes for next season? What will

694
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: you do with you? What's next for us? Yeah? Sure, so,

695
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean just looking at it now. Um, the Lakers

696
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: have some decisions to make. Um, they have you know,

697
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Alex Caruso, which I think is a free agent himself.

698
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to bring him back for sure. Dennis

699
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: Shrewder obviously is the big famous one. They're gonna try

700
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: to bring him back. Um, I think I think you've

701
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: got to try to bring Cruso back. But KCP is

702
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: still signed for next year, Kuzma signed for next year.

703
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: Gasol also I think signed for next year, And so

704
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: you can kind of build with this core man and

705
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: you'll have vets who want to come U. The Lakers

706
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: are the Lakers, and there's still a championship level team

707
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: with a D and Lebron and I think Polinco will

708
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: do his job there. I'm not worried about the team

709
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: next year. I think they'll get a really good offseason. Um,

710
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: they have a first round pick coming as well, the twenty.

711
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: I think they scond pick um. But yeah, I think

712
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. Getting some more vets, getting

713
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: some shooting. I think shooting is important, and I would

714
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: love to keept. I would love for West Matthews to

715
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: kind of to uh come back as well. I think

716
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: he'd be a good addition to stay in. And from

717
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: there they have decisions to make. Dennis Shrewder. I think

718
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: they'll see what he gets on the open market and

719
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: uh and try to bring him back at a at

720
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: a number that makes sense for both sides. But that's

721
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: makes it the main thing. And then getting Caruso to

722
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: come back as well. I think those two will be

723
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: their main priorities this offseason, and then from their kind

724
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: of fill in. But it's crazy that the off seasons

725
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: already here, but yet those are the kind of things

726
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: that go with Yeah, you know, you know, Kyle Lowry

727
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: and CP three are looking for a ten million conflicts.

728
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Will you give one of them? Tom William to join

729
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: the Lakers. They're gonna get a lot more than ten million.

730
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is going to get about a hundred millions

731
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: from Phoenix for three years, and Kyle Lowry is definitely

732
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: get some twenty million dollar deal. So I would love

733
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: for them to come for ten million, but that is

734
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: not happening. There's just no there's just there's just no

735
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: chances dudes come to that. Oh thirty million, Oh oh, well,

736
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't think we have room for them for a

737
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: thirty million. Um. I just don't think that for the

738
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: way the salary cap works, I just don't think we

739
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: canda lists. Maybe we signed in trade for for Kyle

740
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: Lowry or Chris Paul. Chris Paul I would love man,

741
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: that would be amazing to get him. I don't think

742
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: I would do it for for, um, Kyle Lowry thirty

743
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: million dollars. I just I just don't think we have

744
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: the necessary necessary things to pull that off. So I

745
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: don't think either of those are coming this summer. But

746
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: never know, maybe some star wants to be traded here.

747
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: But I just think they're going to continue to build

748
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: with Lebron and a d as there uh as the

749
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: main focal points and try to build from there. Yeah,

750
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: you didn't mention a will you bring them back? So

751
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: I think both of those dudes are gonna walk. I'm

752
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: pretty sure they've talked about bringing back Drummond. Um, but

753
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna try to get something from the

754
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: outside market. I think Harold as well, he's going to

755
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: get from the outside market. So you're right, I forgot

756
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: about those two mantres didn't play this series. Um, so

757
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: we'll see how that how the pre agency goes, um Vassilia,

758
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, Right, thank you man. Dave are

759
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: you there? Yeah? Man? What's up? What's going on? Bro? Dude?

760
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has completely lost all sense of

761
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: any sort of context. What's the deal? Like how they

762
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: give us the context Dave gives. So let's start with this, Right,

763
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: that guy was just talking about Frank Vogel. Right, we've

764
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: got the number one defense. We had over eighty games

765
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: missed by our starters this year and we still have

766
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: the number one defense. Right, Like, we're up to games

767
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: to one. When Anthony Davis goes down, KCP goes down,

768
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: we lost a c tonight, Like, like, I just don't

769
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: see how people don't see this was the shortest offseason

770
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: in any sports history, right, Like this would have been

771
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: the most difficult repeat ever. And people are like, you

772
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: look at every team that was in either the conference

773
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: finals or the or the finals last year, they're all

774
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: playing terrible, Like Jamal Murray was hurt. Although the Nuggets

775
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: did win, but they struggled to beat the sixth seed

776
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Portland's that has no defense. I just don't see how

777
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: people don't see the context of what's going on. Like,

778
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: obviously we played bad. We can't make shots. That that's

779
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: bad news, right, But it was nice to see him

780
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: play with heart tonight. And I don't know, man, I

781
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: just it's frustrating. We just got to run it back, man,

782
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: we'd make a few changes here and there, like Rob's

783
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: done what he needs to do, Like this this all

784
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: comes down to context in my opinion. No, I'm totally

785
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: with you, man. I think it's just been a frustrating

786
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of season. Um, and the Lakers kind of had

787
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of weird losses at the end. They had

788
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: a little five game win street end this season. All

789
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: those games are kind of weird. To play the Knicks

790
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: and then barely beat I think the Rockets. I forgot

791
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: who else they played during that street stretch. I mean,

792
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: D has forty two points against these exact same sons,

793
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: and we killed the court like and that's what I'm saying.

794
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it comes down to, like we just look ghast,

795
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: like the day these guys are playing playing awful because

796
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: they had games of the ninety five days in the

797
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: bubble and then they got to try to turn around

798
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: after seventy days. It just seems like, come on, man,

799
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: we gotta give him at least a little bit of grace,

800
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: Like everyone's everyone's given their heart and soul, and we

801
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: came away with the championship. Like I don't know, I

802
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: guess I'm just not seeing. It's not doomsday, right, let's

803
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: run it back, let's get healthy. No, yeah, for sure,

804
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: it's not dooms. I guess the most disappointed, I think

805
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: for a lot of people and for myself, it's like

806
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: the role players really didn't come to play, like even

807
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: without a D. Like, you know, our role players really

808
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of messed the bed hoping in this one. A

809
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: lot of miss open jump shots that you know, stuff

810
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: that's supposed to go now for NBA. But but but

811
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: you're right though, like there's a lot of contexts to

812
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: take from this really short off season. I never thought

813
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: a d ever joined this season, like just he never

814
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis like he was a good player still when

815
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: it was like he could do it for one night,

816
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: but then he couldn't. He couldn't do it consistently because exactly, yeah, exactly,

817
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: even Ron right, like Lebron can't do it either, Like

818
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: he was sitting there just passing, like he wasn't even

819
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: initiating offense like we've normally seen from him. I don't

820
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: know it was surprising. I wouldn't be surprised to find

821
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: out that he came back way too early too and

822
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: should have stayed out for a couple more weeks. Like

823
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: he just did not play like the guy like that

824
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. This year. We didn't have Anthony

825
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Davis for a ton of those games, and he was

826
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: super dominant, like we looked, we looked really good early

827
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: in the season before Lebron got hurt, even without Anthony Davis, right,

828
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: but that wasn't the case here at the end. And again,

829
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: he's not in great shape because he was out. He

830
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: missed more games in a row than any other time

831
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: in his career. It just seems like me in that

832
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: context has got to at least be part of the

833
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 1: conversation for sure. Oh no, absolutely, And Lebron was never

834
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: himself I think after that ankle sprain. Rather he just

835
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: never got into his conditioning that he needed to um.

836
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: He never scored thirty points after that ankle sprain that

837
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: he had, just was never himself. He came back one

838
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: game I think against Sacramento, and he had to rest

839
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: in another couple of games because it wasn't right. So

840
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: it was just a weird season. No no chemistry, no cohesion.

841
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: Guys are learning, Guys are learning each other's games in

842
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know. So it's just a really weird

843
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: year a lot of times to think from it, the

844
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: other weird the other one thing I thought about it,

845
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: think about after game Game three, right, like that's the

846
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: game where Lebron was was sunning Crowder in the in

847
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: the post, like we felt like we had tons of

848
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: we felt like we had tons of chemistry. That was

849
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: just a couple of games ago. Like it was just

850
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: that kind of a season where it would be like

851
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: we would go on a run and then we would

852
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: just be like a disaster for like a couple of games.

853
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: Like it was either like we're doing amazing or we're

854
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 1: off with Hey, I got one last question your man.

855
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: So you talked a little bit about I think a

856
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: C and th HD they're there for sure guys that

857
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: we should go after. I mean one of your thoughts

858
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: on on Shrewder and UH and Harold because those seem

859
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: to be the those are the bigger names and the

860
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: bigger money items. Yeah, so, like I feel like Mantrez

861
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: is kind of trying to try to try to get

862
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: the biggest bag he can. Um. I don't think they'll

863
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: bring him back just the way they used him in

864
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think it's kind of clear that both

865
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: of them are going in opposite directions, right. I think

866
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Treads was great in the regular season. UM. I called

867
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: him an innings eater a lot. Like I feel like

868
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: he did his job. They're kind of keeping us afloat. UM.

869
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: Shrewder is the interesting one. I think they'll try to

870
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: bring him back at a respectable number. I don't think

871
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: he's going to touch the number that they try to

872
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: extend him at earlier that four years eighty. I think

873
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: it's probably screwed. He screwed himself. Like if you start

874
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this game. In last game he

875
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: was like one for fourteen at one point. Yeah. Yeah,

876
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: so it was a really it's funny people are going

877
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: to forget that Game two. In game three he had

878
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: that really helped us. But yeah, he had a really

879
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: tough playoffs man, And that's what you're judged on. And

880
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think that COVID protocol right before the

881
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: season ended really derailed kind of the rhythm he was

882
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: building with the team. Um so they're gonna try to

883
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: bring him back T H T as well. I think

884
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: it's a guy that there. He might have been the

885
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: second most important part of this season just his development right,

886
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: getting him going, getting his reps, getting him better as

887
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: a player. You can see his growth even tonight, just

888
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: as a guy who's confident. So that's where I'd go

889
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: with him. Man. A C I think is the important

890
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: one too. Yeah. I also don't think I've heard anybody

891
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that Chris Paul was a mentor

892
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: and a teammate to Shrewder last year. So he's probably

893
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: the one guy that knew where his weaknesses were and

894
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: how we could pick him apart to like, like, nobody's

895
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: really talked about that because he struggled last year and

896
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: those playoffs too, like for okay, see, I'm pretty sure

897
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, but exactly. Yeah, and Case and

898
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: CP had an awesome series. Damn. I appreciate you. Thanks man,

899
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. See if I can get I'm

900
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna trying to bring multiple people up here so I

901
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: don't have to wait for it to connect. Aaron, are

902
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: you there? Yeah, dude, what's up? Yeah? Honestly, I've been

903
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: kind of in and out of listening to the two

904
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: guys combo, but I did hear you guys talking about

905
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: th HD a bit um? Yeah, honestly, I know it's

906
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: been kind of depressing on the on the top so far,

907
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: but I kind of just want to focus on THHD

908
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: because I really like his ship. I like what he brings.

909
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: I love the energy that brings. Obviously, he like you

910
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: were saying, he needs more reps and needs more experience,

911
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: but I I really hope he's He's not somebody that

912
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: gets that gets traded. And another thing, when I add

913
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: real quick is just I know a lot. I know

914
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: Kuzma has been getting a lot of hate, but I

915
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: feel that I feel that I don't know. I like

916
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: the energy he brings too, and I think it's hard

917
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: for him to find a shot too, especially with like

918
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: two other superstars like Adane Lebron. So I don't know,

919
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: I just want to throw that into the conversation. No,

920
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: for sure, And like, look, Kuzma is a guy that

921
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm sad that this is the way he goes out

922
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: because I feel like he really developed here, not just

923
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: this year, last year into a winning player under Vogel

924
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: and becoming a defensive minded kind of player, a guy

925
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: who does all the little things. If you remember his

926
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: rookie year, Man, they gave him the ball, let him score.

927
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: He was the eight teen points per game score and

928
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: then he and then those when then when Lebron came,

929
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, his shots went down. His efficiency these last

930
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: these last two years, man, he's been a winning player.

931
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: Like he's really, um, he's really turned himself into that

932
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: and turned himself into a guy who just takes spot

933
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: up three pointers and and he missed all the shots

934
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Like that's just what happened. And it's

935
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: sad that that's kind of how it went Um. We

936
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: expect better from him, and I look, the Lakers signed

937
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: him to like a three year or forty deal. They

938
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: believe in his development. If he's traded, he's traded. But

939
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: I think they I don't think these six games take

940
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: away from the two seasons worth of stuff that he's gone.

941
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: And he was a championship level player last year and

942
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: THHD as well. I think case she's really important. Um

943
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: just you don't usually get young guys like this on

944
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: championship level teams. You don't get this type of talent

945
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: to be able to nurture and develop. So that he's

946
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: a guy that I think they're going to try to

947
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 1: keep as well this offseason. He's a restricted free agent,

948
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: so I think those two dudes are part of the

949
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: young core along with Crusoe, not the guy they'll try

950
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 1: to keep. No, yeah exactly. I was actually just thinking

951
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: of Cruso too, but no, yeah, I am. I don't

952
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: really have much else to add, but I mean, thanks

953
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: for all you do, Roger. I really appreciate all the

954
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: stuff that you put on on Twitter and like your

955
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: your whole thing. I really appreciate it. Me and my

956
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: siblings are always always keeping up with their stuff, so things.

957
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Aaron thinks, Man, I appreciate it. Uh

958
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: let's see. Oh okay, Okatchy are either uh yeah, you

959
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: hear me, I can hear you. What's going on? Man?

960
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Nothing much? But yeah, it was a tough way to

961
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: end the season, obviously seeing that, and I mean, yeah,

962
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: like the writing was kind of on the wall, the injuries,

963
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But um, I'm kind of like looking

964
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: forward and I think we gotta really just put th

965
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: Hd at the forefront. And I think he has a

966
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: legitimate shot. I don't know what we do a shooter,

967
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: but he's got a legitimate shot to start next year

968
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: and also maybe probably be that six man. Mm hmm.

969
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that's like a crazy idea. And I

970
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: know people like the last guy we just came in,

971
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: he was talking about Kuzma and everybody's playing flaming Kuza.

972
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: But Kuzma for for what he was asked for the season,

973
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: which was to depend and you know, hit timely threes.

974
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: For the most part, he was good and obviously towards

975
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: the end it kind of just fluttered out. But yeah,

976
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: I think we really got a um pushed towards TSD

977
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: and make him a forefront and sort of like make

978
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: him an important piece of what we're doing in the future.

979
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: And then as far as getting more shooters, um, that's

980
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: all up to the the front office and let's see

981
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: what they do there. And also let center rotation because

982
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: we've got to figure that out because without when a

983
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: D is not on the court, we gotta have at

984
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: least decent um efficiency or the defense and rebounding just

985
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: it's got to be there, no for sure. And just

986
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: to like go on your th h T point. He

987
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: really developed this year. Like especially even he was a

988
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: really bad off ball defender, I think he really improved

989
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: on their His on ball defense also really improved. And

990
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: him just being as a shot creator, you could tell

991
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: his confidence, it just had a whole another level. Um

992
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: him as a just a high ball screen type of player,

993
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: a guy you can just give the ball to and

994
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: just say create a shot, get a bucket. He really

995
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: got Um. He really got comfortable with his fade away

996
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: as well. Um. I still think his three pointers so

997
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: up and down. That's gonna have to be worked on.

998
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: But they really believe in him and his talent is there.

999
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: You don't get kids like this on championship level teams,

1000
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: and I think they really I think they really realized

1001
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: that this is a deep team. Man, even and even

1002
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: when everyone was healthy, he was like the seventh eighth

1003
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: man coming off the bench when we were winning, when

1004
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: we were like twenty one and six or whatever. He

1005
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: was a full part of the rotation, backup point guard,

1006
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: shooting guard. UM. I think he he took West Matthew spot.

1007
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: If you remember earlier in the year, Wes Matthews was

1008
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: like the backup guard and THHD just stole those minutes

1009
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: because he was that good. And uh, I think I

1010
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: think he definitely had a shot next year for the

1011
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: backup guard. I don't know if he'll be the starting

1012
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: point guard. I don't think he's shooting is good enough

1013
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: yet to start next to Lebron. I think you need

1014
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: more shooting, but you know, you never know. I think

1015
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: his three point shooting is real. I think it can be.

1016
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like something that um he can't

1017
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: improve on. So I think you're right. And when with Kuzma, man,

1018
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: you hit it right on the money, like his job

1019
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: is to be an energy guy, hit shots, rebound um,

1020
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: and he really improved on that, and it's sad that

1021
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: this is the way that they're gonna they're gonna kind

1022
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: of remember him. But uh, I think you're right on

1023
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: that money with that though, Kuzma did his job this

1024
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: year other than the playoffs, which is the disappointing part. Yeah,

1025
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: and one more thing because people were trying talking about

1026
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: trading him, but then I don't know how many six

1027
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: nine guys out there right to play both sides of

1028
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: the ball, Like, there's not many of those guys out there.

1029
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: Like then the next guys they're just they're they're also

1030
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: level players like those are who those types of players are.

1031
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: So trading Kuzma, I don't know what we get back

1032
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: and would that be even better? Right? You can never

1033
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: have enough three and D wings, Like that's what the

1034
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: league kind of wants. Everyone wants that. And look, Christmas

1035
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: three wasn't there. But you have a guy that defends

1036
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: and doesn't make mistakes on the on the floor, you

1037
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: you kind of live with the open three is not

1038
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: going in at sometimes. Um, it's just sad that this

1039
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: is the way it kind of happened. But again, he

1040
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one. The whole team went cold. The

1041
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: whole team kind of got shook. Um, I think the

1042
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: A D news really hurt. Um, I don't. This's just

1043
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: a theory of mine. Just a D being a game

1044
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: time decision in game five, then E D trying to

1045
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: play tonight and not being able to go. It just

1046
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: kind of kills the whole like mood with the team.

1047
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, you could just tell when a D went out,

1048
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: Like when a D went out after five minutes tonight,

1049
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: you could just tell. The whole team was like, oh,

1050
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: that's probably it. And then I'm not excusing that, I'm

1051
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: just saying that's what it looked like. So you're kind

1052
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: of right, because like Anthony Davis, essentially he was her

1053
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: best player, Like right, like Anthony Davis needed to be

1054
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: that um game to game three type of player in

1055
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: thirty or four points affect both sides of the ball,

1056
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: like he needed to be that guy for the Lakers,

1057
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: so in this series, and well, just he wasn't healthy

1058
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: enough to do it, which really sucks for any team,

1059
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Like if anything loses the best player, like it's hard

1060
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: to come back to that. You're right exactly, Yeah, I

1061
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: agree with you, and hopefully he'll be back next year.

1062
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: But that's just a blow to your team, man. And

1063
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: h Phoenix is a hell of good team. I want

1064
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: to give them props. Man, that's a legitimately good team

1065
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: that had a chance to beat us even when we

1066
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: were healthy. In my opinion, like I just thought they

1067
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: were legitimately that good. You don't win that many games

1068
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 1: on accident, like they want to think, like the games

1069
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: after January for some crazy number. I think they start

1070
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: like ten and ten or something something like that, and

1071
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: he went on a went on a crazy run. So

1072
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: they're legit, they're good. They have a shot to win

1073
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: the title. They're they're that good. Um, so great to them,

1074
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, it sucks to lose your second best player

1075
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of a playoffs series. Like most teams

1076
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to survive that and we didn't. Yeah,

1077
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: thanks a getting rodgered up form letting me speak, But

1078
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you get to other people, of course. Man,

1079
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. Come on anytime, all right,

1080
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: See Brett, are you there? Yeah? What's up? What's going on? Man? Oh?

1081
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: You know, just trying to talk my way through this

1082
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: and um, one thing I want to talk about is

1083
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people are sort of

1084
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: putting a lot of the blame on the team building.

1085
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: This team, this team had. I think that people are saying, oh,

1086
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: I should have kept the white People are saying that

1087
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: should have kept Vail, which I think is just blasphemous

1088
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: seeing what happened. Well, we we didn't see anything of him.

1089
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: I think the last two series of last season, people

1090
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: were saying Danny Green, should we should have kept him

1091
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: over Shrewder. Um. I just I'm very confused whether people

1092
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: are thinking um, because I think that considering that Lebron

1093
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis got hurt, I think that we're not

1094
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: even close to making the playoffs with the group that

1095
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: we had last year. You know, we talked about how

1096
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: this group was depending on Lebron Anthony Davis. Last season,

1097
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: we had zero playmaking outside of Lebron and Anthony Davis.

1098
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you could say Rondo, but you know, who

1099
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: knows what he would have been during the regular season.

1100
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to just get that out there

1101
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: that like this, you know, Harold and Shrewder, that they're

1102
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: the reason that we're in the playoffs. We're not making

1103
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs without those guys having good nights during the

1104
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: rh of season when Lebron jameson Anthon Davis were out.

1105
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: And I'm just thinking this, if you were to ask

1106
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: before the season, know, Lebrono, did you get hurt? I

1107
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: think that the first question you asked, why do we

1108
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs? And I think this is sort

1109
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: of the furthest that you could have gotten considering the circumstances. Yeah,

1110
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny if you kind of go back

1111
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: to like the preseason UM podcasts of a lot of

1112
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: Laker kind of podcasts and stuff like that, they were

1113
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't watching during the Kobe and Check kind of era,

1114
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: was really old enough to kind of watched that, but um,

1115
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: they were saying, this is the most talented Laker team

1116
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: that they've seen in a long time, like and it

1117
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: kind of and for me, it's more talented than our

1118
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: own nine oh ten teams like that. Just the group

1119
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: of talent, the collection of talent was was just really

1120
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: high man and I just don't think we ever got

1121
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: a shot. But a shrewd run Harold, Like Harold to

1122
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: me was a uh innings eater in the regular season,

1123
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: a guy that really can just put up numbers and

1124
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: really help us through those kind of dog days of

1125
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: energy lacking nights. And I think he did his job

1126
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: and he brought his energy on those nights. And it

1127
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 1: sucks that in the playoffs that he really got taken

1128
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: out of the rotation like this, because Phoenix is a

1129
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: team I he can play against. They play Kaminski, they

1130
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: play Sorry sometimes we didn't play this series, but Kaminski

1131
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: is a guy that can go at it. You know,

1132
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: Harold just didn't just the way the rotations worked out.

1133
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: But man, this like going after Polinka and after the

1134
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: roster construction is so hindsight is and you're right, like

1135
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: last year's team, I don't know what putting Danny Green

1136
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: and Dwight Howard and Tamail McKee does to a team

1137
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: with al Anthony Davis and Lebron for half that for

1138
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: like games. It just doesn't make sense. Um, It's kind

1139
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: of like the Kyle Lowrydrid trade. In my opinion, you

1140
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: get Kyle Lowry, but you get them with no Lebron

1141
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: for twenty games, no a D for thirty games, Like,

1142
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: what's the point of that. There's no there's no comparison

1143
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: to be made. This team wasn't healthy it didn't get

1144
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: a chance, so going after the moves in the off

1145
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: seasons kind of it doesn't really make sense to me.

1146
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I think you're right with that. That's really all I

1147
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: had to say. Thanks, appreciate you. I'm gonna get to

1148
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: a get to a couple more here. I've been going

1149
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 1: for like an hour, um, and I'm starting to lose

1150
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: my voice. Let's get to uh, two more here and

1151
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: get to a couple people him waiting for a while.

1152
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a couple of people at times. So

1153
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: if you get up here, I'll kind of just wait, justin,

1154
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: are you there? Justin? Hey, how you doing? Man? Can

1155
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: you hear me? You can hear what's going on? Man?

1156
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm just frustrated with how this season went. I understand,

1157
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: and I get all injuries is all part of it.

1158
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: I just felt like this team we just never really

1159
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: clicked with all those injuries, and even still it felt

1160
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: like and then when we got healthy, at least it

1161
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: felt like some of our guys we're I guess their

1162
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: heads weren't always there. Throw Ouder example of he like

1163
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: he was healthy for the majority of the season, but

1164
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: then he had those there was times when he just

1165
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: was a bone headed So I just wondered if I

1166
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: just wondered if half the time we were just going

1167
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: walking through the motions of this series, thinking, hey, we

1168
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: can get back and we know what it took to

1169
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: get there, and just we're trying, We're just going to

1170
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: go through the motions of going through it. Yeah, So

1171
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: that was kind of one of my issues with the season,

1172
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: and a hole like I thought we had. We didn't

1173
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: have a respect for the continuity that it takes to

1174
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: win a title. And I'm not just just talking about

1175
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: obviously Lebron an a deal route, but I just thought

1176
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: we were playing a lot of rotations a lot of

1177
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: minutes that just didn't make a lot of sense to me.

1178
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: And Shrewder was a part of that as well. He

1179
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: was a lot of weird rotations and uh, he's a

1180
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: guy that's also playing for a contract, Like that's not

1181
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: something that's hidden. I don't know if that effects I

1182
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: don't think that affected his kind of team play, but

1183
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: it's just like you have all these things kind of

1184
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: working um against like one team, kind of playing for

1185
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: a goal, and uh, like we had we had minutes

1186
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: with a lot of like Ben mckamore and like my

1187
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: tris Harrold playing next to Mark even Morris, like just linus.

1188
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: It didn't make sense to me. And then you try

1189
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: to turn a switch on, right, You try to turn

1190
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: this switch into the playoffs, like this is go time,

1191
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: this is this has to be serious, and you just

1192
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: can't turn that switch on. Sometimes it's just not there. Um.

1193
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: And that's how a lot of title teams, a lot

1194
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: of championship teams kind of lose. And I thought that's

1195
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: how we lost, Like we just like that game one

1196
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: we kind of sleep walked through and A d even

1197
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: talked about it. We didn't have energy for it, like

1198
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: that's game one of the playoffs and we just decided

1199
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: not to have energy for it. So those are things

1200
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: that happened, man, And uh, it sucks that this was

1201
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: a year, but it's just like that's how we went.

1202
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: We we sleep the walk through a lot of this season, um,

1203
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: from a coaching perspective to a player's perspective, a lot

1204
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: of just experimental stuff to just you know, go through

1205
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: the motions, and and that's how we kind of lost. Yeah, no,

1206
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: like get it. Hopefully we can addressing and get ourselves.

1207
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: This is a wake up call for some of these

1208
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: guys that we and addressed it in the off season

1209
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: later on, because I know, yeah, I know, Anthony Davis

1210
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: is probably thinking he's getting He's like, I, I get

1211
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: the rest up for the Olympics because Team US. I

1212
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: think it starts the week after the finals. I mean,

1213
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure if he'll play in the Olympics,

1214
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: but we'll see. Um. I don't think any of the

1215
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: players who kind of talked about it yet, but I

1216
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: feel like most of them are gonna want to just

1217
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: rest this offseason. But but we'll definitely see. Um what's

1218
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Justin I appreciate you, man, thank you for

1219
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: for coming on, thank you for always listening. I always

1220
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: see you in here, no problem. Uh, let's see Mario?

1221
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: Are you there? Like this? The last kind of one

1222
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: for the night going on? Man? Oh man? That game

1223
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: was very depressing to watch. But I kept watching the game.

1224
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: You know, I've been I've been watching the Lakers since

1225
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: since I was small. You know, I didn't see the

1226
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: Kobe and shock and all. But that game was very

1227
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: tough for me and for everyone all of us. Um. So,

1228
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: now that the season is done for us, now it's

1229
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: the OFFSA. You know, I've been thinking about it lately.

1230
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: And if we don't get Harold back, which we won't

1231
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: and Drummond, I feel like the Lakers should reese. Uh,

1232
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: they should sign Damian Jones. I really love the way

1233
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: he played those Tink games m hm and bringing a

1234
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: power forward, more defense, more three and three and D

1235
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: like Robert Cummington, or you know, some more defense and

1236
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: more shooting. Yeah, I we'll see. Like Damian Jones, that

1237
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: thought did his job. It was great for the Lakers. UM.

1238
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: I totally understood going after Andre Drummond. I feel like

1239
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: that was a there was a talent gap there, but

1240
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: never know how that would have worked out. Maybe he

1241
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: comes back. I think Sacramento likes him. I think they're

1242
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna try to keep mp um, but yeah, they're gonna

1243
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: try to go after some shooting and maybe some more

1244
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: you know, athletic bigs. I feel like we were short

1245
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: on that this year. We really didn't have a low

1246
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: threat next to a d um that can really help

1247
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: give just give some pressure off Lebron and and a

1248
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: d down there in the in the doctor spot where

1249
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: we have however, guy's posting up. We need a guy

1250
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: who can catch lobs down there. Drum is not that guy.

1251
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: Marcosol is a really great spacer. He's also not that guy,

1252
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: so Cam Pastor, Right, So we might might want to

1253
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: go after some athletic bigs, athletic wings and some shooting

1254
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: this offseason and and there we'll have a lot of

1255
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: time to talk about the offseason and uh and definitely

1256
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: kind of get into it more. But yeah, that's kind

1257
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: of where the baseline is is just going after those

1258
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of players. And and the Lakers are the Lakers, man,

1259
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna have vets wanting to come and and and

1260
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: and chase rings and stuff like that at uh, and

1261
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: then you get Lebron and a d You'll be You'll

1262
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: be fine. So the Lakers will be fine. Yeah, I

1263
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: think I think they The season was a little bit

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Speaker 1: too rushed for sure, and and I knew something bad

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Speaker 1: was gonna happen too, because after that finals running what

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Speaker 1: was in November right somewhere around the yeah around there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was such a good idea for

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Speaker 1: Adam Adam Silver to bring back the NBA quickly. I

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Speaker 1: think they should have waited until next October. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean they were never going to do that. It was

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Speaker 1: a money thing kind of. Uh, they need to get

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Speaker 1: it done before the Olympics, and this was the agreed

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Speaker 1: upon so everyone can get their money. And then maybe

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Speaker 1: they started too soon. You're seeing a lot of injuries

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Speaker 1: kind of get come out. All the teams that went

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Speaker 1: far in the playoffs last year, um really kind of

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Speaker 1: got struck by either injuries or went out early in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But yeah, that this is what they decided

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs are here and the team that wins wins.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no kind of there's no uh, there's

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Speaker 1: no sympathy. The Lakers won their title last year. No

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Speaker 1: one has sympathy for them for losing in the first round,

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Speaker 1: especially Chris Paul. Chris Paul has never even touched Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: Leave that team to that finals. I think he has

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Speaker 1: a good chance when he his first three he does. Yeah, Mario,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, Thank you all right, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your thank you man. I appreciate it. I appreciate everybody

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Speaker 1: kind of sticking out, hanging out. I mean, Jason will

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Speaker 1: be back to in a pod. He's on, but he

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Speaker 1: went to vacation, flew to Aruba, today so he wasn't here,

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Speaker 1: but I appreciate everyone has stayed who listened throughout the

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Speaker 1: whole season. UM, that really means a lot to us.

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Speaker 1: UM the support here and on the podcast has been crazy,

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Speaker 1: So thanks everyone. Everyone has a safe night, and uh

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Speaker 1: we'll see you guys soon