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Speaker 2: The Calves showed their toughness today when they beat the

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Speaker 2: next one O six to one.

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Speaker 3: On two.

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Speaker 2: James Harden scored twenty two points in his return and

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Speaker 2: the lineup with a broken thumb. Kean Ellis also played

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Speaker 2: with a frashened finger today and still was able to

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Speaker 2: put up five blocks and steet three steals. The Cavs

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Speaker 2: got a defensive minutes at the trade deadline from the

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Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look. The thing is is that I think the

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Speaker 2: it's on this non non shooting hand. James is the

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Speaker 2: left and I think it's his right thumb. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: played well today in his return. I think he had

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Speaker 2: twenty two dining seven I say something like that. The

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Speaker 2: Bigs played played okay. I thought Evan Mobley played well.

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Speaker 2: Uh you look at this this this grad. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you guys can it. But Detroit forty five

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Speaker 2: and fourteen the one seed, currently Boston forty and twenty

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Speaker 2: the two seed. The Knicks of thirty nine and twenty two,

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Speaker 2: the three seed the Calves thirty eight to twenty four,

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Speaker 2: the fourth seed Toronto thirty five and twenty five to

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Speaker 2: five seeds. So if the season end of the day,

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Wild face Toronto, the Knicks will placed face to

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Speaker 2: seventy six ers, Boston will face the Magic, and Detroit, well,

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Speaker 2: we'll play the whoever wins out of the seventh the

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Speaker 2: seven ten matchup. But look, it's close. Obviously it's not

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Speaker 2: as you know, what is three and six. Three and

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Speaker 2: six is a bigger separation than what it is in

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Speaker 2: the Western Conference because it's only two games separating three

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Speaker 2: from six in the Western Conference and it's about six

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Speaker 2: games separating five and a half separating three to six

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Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference. But Detroit, Detroit looked, it looked

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Speaker 2: well all year, they played really well. Uh they got

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Speaker 2: an All NBA selection in uh Ky Cunningham. I think

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Speaker 2: during is gonna be an All NBA selection. Also, he

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Speaker 2: might make the All Defensive team. Hell, k might make

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Speaker 2: the All Defensive team because he's that good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The problem they're gonna have is that Dirty is gonna

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Speaker 2: damn to get a max contract five years over two

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Speaker 2: hundred over two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: And it's better.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like football, though, cho it's better to

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Speaker 2: sign these guys earlier than late because they don't and

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Speaker 2: in basketball they don't give discounts and team don't even

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Speaker 2: ask them. In baseball, they don't give them no discounts.

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody who with Darren justin, Hey, judge, check this out, man.

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Speaker 2: We try to put a team around you. Can you

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Speaker 2: cut it? No, the only of the player, the players associates,

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Speaker 2: you want to let you do it, sho. He ain't

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Speaker 2: cut no deal. The only deal that he cut is

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Speaker 2: that he says, you know what, I'm nice. I'm nice,

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Speaker 2: like boss, give me two million a year and then

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Speaker 2: the other sixty eight. So he gets done. So he's

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Speaker 2: only cost him two million dollars a year. That's why

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Speaker 2: they're able to just stack players on top of players.

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Speaker 2: You get a pready freemum, you get a bets the

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Speaker 2: guy that just signed for sixty million a year. You

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Speaker 2: get those kind of guys because you get guys taking

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Speaker 2: deferred compensation. Now they'll do that, but it still keeps

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Speaker 2: the market up here, right and so, but it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be very, very interesting.

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Speaker 1: The NBA has kind of been quiet this year. Old

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Speaker 1: show what well.

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Speaker 2: Steph has been out because you can see the shifts coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's coming. Your guard is coming.

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Speaker 4: Is gonna move on, Steph.

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Speaker 2: Is gonna move on. Katie's gonna move on, you know,

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Speaker 2: and so things things are gonna be different. Things is

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Speaker 2: gonna be different. The league is transition away from those guys,

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Speaker 2: and that's okay. Uh, the Legal is in great hands.

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Speaker 2: It moved on from Doctor j Larry and Magic. It

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Speaker 2: moved on from Jordan. It moved on from Kobe and

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Speaker 2: all those Shack and all those guys. The Legal be fine.

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Speaker 2: The Legal continue to prosper, and it'll be fine. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to hold I'm looking up, trying to look up

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Speaker 2: these stats right here.

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Speaker 5: I think I mean the NBA obviously the new guard

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Speaker 5: Said a lot of fans regards to of what team

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Speaker 5: you support, you look, you look forward to watching them, obviously,

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Speaker 5: and man, you got you got Wimby. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: Why joh could have been in there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously in that conversation, John, I'm not sure what's

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Speaker 2: You got Wimby, you got s g A, you got Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, you got Yoke obviously. Yeah, we mentioned we

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Speaker 2: got Bronson, JB. J T is out. But the young guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of under thirty, under

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Speaker 2: thirty guys that's you know, the league is gonna that's

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Speaker 2: gonna have to carry the league like.

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Speaker 1: Those old guard like Magic and Bird.

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Speaker 2: And Doc and and and and and Jordan's and then

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Speaker 2: and Steph and all those guys hardened. It's gonna, you know,

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Speaker 2: gonna move on also. But those guys, you know, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny it is obviously with the new

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Speaker 5: guard coming in and all the great names you just name,

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Speaker 5: who the hell is the face of the NBA? Now,

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Speaker 5: once the old guard moves on, who's the face?

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Speaker 2: They don't have one and they won't ad Man, but

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Speaker 2: that man said no, let Win be do it. And

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Speaker 2: man want to be a man and you know, and

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Speaker 2: man and man want to go, you know, and man,

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Speaker 2: because there's a that's pressure that comes along with that,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're image and everything and where you're going.

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Speaker 1: How you can like that and answer no, that ain't

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Speaker 1: dam me could. I ain't gonna hold y'all.

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Speaker 2: You know, I ain't really try to, you know, when

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Speaker 2: I'm Atlanta, y'all, y'all see that that collab is going

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Speaker 2: on with Magic City and the Hawks. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to be done now. I'm trying to get on

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Speaker 2: the Lemon Pepper wins.

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Speaker 4: Hey, the collab is Mars sixteenth.

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Speaker 5: We're going, right, You and Joe going, okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: Well me, me and Joe, we'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: We'll tell you about it. Yeah, we'll tell you about I.

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Speaker 2: Might hit I might hit Magic and say, man, let

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Speaker 2: me get where the hoodies and they got Atlanta Hall

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Speaker 2: Magic City collab hooded that side.

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Speaker 1: I might take a look at that, but.

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Speaker 2: Uh, right now, right now, oh Joe, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I don't think they got a face of the league,

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Speaker 2: and and and you know, uh, obviously, all things being equal,

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Speaker 2: That's not what he wants to be and you know,

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Speaker 2: you want somebody to embrace that. Guys used to bring

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Speaker 2: you know, Magic and Bird and Kobe and Jordan Lebron

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Speaker 2: and staff. They embraced it, and there are guys that

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Speaker 2: are willing to embrace it. But in the NBA is like, nah,

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Speaker 2: we we don't kind of want you all to.

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Speaker 1: Be the face.

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Speaker 2: We want him, We want him to be the face,

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Speaker 2: right right, right right. But I think eventually it might

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Speaker 2: have to because he's becoming such an international game and

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Speaker 2: some of your best players are international. You probably had

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Speaker 2: to take a pick your top five players in the

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Speaker 2: NBA maybe top seven or all international players, So that

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Speaker 2: might be your face of your league.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it might have to.

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Speaker 4: Be someone that's not even from here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because if you look at if you look

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Speaker 2: at it, I mean, if you look at baseball, it's

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Speaker 2: one of two players, it's Aaron Judge of show hate.

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Speaker 2: And if you take a poll, they're probably going to

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Speaker 2: say ninety percent say show hate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the MLB OCHO has always had that. They've als

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Speaker 2: had Dominicans, they've always had Cuban players, They've all always

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Speaker 2: had players from you know those countries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so now.

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Speaker 2: In the Asian born players, where it be uh Normo

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Speaker 2: so they've always had that.

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Speaker 1: Basically this shift that happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a few foreign born players, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I think I read somewhere it might have been nine

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Speaker 2: player that was in the NBA in ninety two. And

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Speaker 2: now you might have every team that play in the

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Speaker 2: Olympics might have three four guys. Look at Canadians, damn.

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Speaker 2: In the Canadians whole team is in the NBA. The

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Speaker 2: Slovenian team have players in the NBA, the Serbian team,

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot more so.

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Speaker 2: Now it might be it might you might not have

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Speaker 2: yoke as the face. It is what it is. It

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Speaker 2: is what it is. Because right now Kate is coming.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a couple. I mean ant Man, but

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Speaker 2: it's ant Man that has a charisma. He has the

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Speaker 2: personal Yeah, he has the yeah yeah yeah yeah he

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Speaker 2: is he is. He has a game to match.

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Speaker 1: O yo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to want someone to want it. He

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Speaker 2: has to want to be it. Yeah, you can't force

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Speaker 5: And it comes too much on It comes with too

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Speaker 5: much pressure. So you have to conduct yourself a certain way,

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Speaker 5: know aunt personally, that ain't that ain't happening.

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Speaker 4: That definitelyin't happening.

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Speaker 2: And you look at the quarterbacks, you look at them

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Speaker 2: that that's been the face of the league. You know,

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Speaker 2: you look at being Marino or Lway or Montana or

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Speaker 2: the way they kind of lead to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Josh Alla like man, I want to be the fat baby.

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Speaker 2: We've been doing this thing. We've been day for like

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Speaker 2: six months. You want to get married, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. You want to get mad on ya. Do

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Speaker 2: you see the quarterback that don't be wasting no time

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Speaker 2: on't yo, no quick, don't play.

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Speaker 1: So we will see.

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Speaker 2: I think, uh, there's some American players that's getting better.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Kay Cunningham is getting unbelieved. We got

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Speaker 2: ant Man, we got j T. We got j JB

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Speaker 2: j T gladly, gladly accept that role. The problem that

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Speaker 2: he's having, that he's getting pushed from a teammate. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to be hold on, how are you the

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Speaker 2: face of the league and you're not even the best

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Speaker 4: Team or something?

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Speaker 5: Some would say not that, that's.

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Speaker 1: That's my point right, right.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, normally with the guys the face

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Speaker 4: Got to be the point out, yeah, on your team.

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Speaker 4: He's still in. You think, so, still he's still it.

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Speaker 2: Right, You look at his social media, you look at

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Speaker 2: The Knicks played an unbelievable game today and they got

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Speaker 5: And the Knicks needed this too, that they needed. They've

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Speaker 2: When when we have seven turnovers by himself of those

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Speaker 1: You know, they made seventeen threes, you made you May nine.

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Speaker 2: They're they're they're better than you think. Now do I

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Speaker 2: Tyree's max is gonna be Tyree's Maxley, edgkumb is gonna

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Speaker 2: The Knicks played well today and they needed this ball game.

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Speaker 2: you already know pencil Shade for thirty. You just feel,

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Speaker 2: So the Spurs look eleven straight games, Ohoe to get

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Speaker 1: But you never know the seven game series. You never know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Horba Laker brons top was Lebron jame off the team?

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Speaker 1: O Jo.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised to see Byron Scott publicly calling for

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Speaker 1: That's what he's saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you podcast man, that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: And obviously maybe maybe I don't I doubt that Byron

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Speaker 4: Of old but but but but.

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Speaker 5: Saying that he needs to leave LA and Luke would

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing is and I don't know when

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Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. And I think the

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Speaker 2: They know that they know what what what the Lakers

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Speaker 2: what Lebron did to piss so many great players one,

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Speaker 2: Oh he no he didn't, No, he didn't, I get it. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Joe in a lot of times. We talk about this

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Speaker 1: We didn't get.

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Speaker 2: But I don't begrudge them because we got things in

439
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: the nineties and two thousands that guys in the seventies and.

440
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 1: Eighties didn't get.

441
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got things in the seventies and eighties that

442
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: guys in the fifties and sixty didn't get. Just this

443
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,719
Speaker 2: thing called ever. The game grows, the game e bombs

444
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: and people get more things. It's okay, but this notion

445
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: that Lebron James is the only one that's ever had

446
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: power within the organization.

447
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: Do y'all realize that a man wont to nationally won a.

448
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: Championship and Magic had a falling out and he says

449
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: they see the him or me and doctor Buss fired

450
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 2: the coach that won an NBA title. That happened, lad

451
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: Bird did the same thing. It happens, but for some reason,

452
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 2: anything that goes wrong, that is the reason why.

453
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: That's what free agency was meant to do.

454
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me you want free agency

455
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: and then want guys to stay. If that was the case,

456
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: what was free agency for what was pregy for oh Joe.

457
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: If guys are not gonna move around, I get it.

458
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: Teams trade team, a trade a player like it's nothing.

459
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 2: Don't perform, and what they do, even if you do perform,

460
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: if they think they can get better, they'll move you.

461
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 2: But now players say, you know what I think I'm going.

462
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: I think it's going about as far as it can.

463
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

464
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Lebron, there are been a lot of guys

465
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: that's moved, but nobody has caught the criticism, and Lebron

466
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: James has never asked for a trade. Every time Lebron

467
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: James has moved O Joe, he's played his contract out.

468
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: He played his contract out in Cleveland. He went to Miami,

469
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: he played that four years out, he went back to Cleveland,

470
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: he played that four years out, and he headed to

471
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 2: l A. I just I just don't get it. I

472
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: don't know. I've never you've never I've never heard so

473
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: many great players, championship winning players take shots at Lebron.

474
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 5: It comes with the territory, he says, at the top

475
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 5: of the mountain. He's the great one, he's the chosen one.

476
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 5: He's the one with the moniker, the king. So what

477
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 5: do they do regardless of his accomplishments, regards of his accolades.

478
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 5: You know, I mean you people that they argue that

479
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 5: Jordin Lebron debate what talk about the greatest basketball player

480
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 5: of all time?

481
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 4: So what happens when you're the greatest at what you do?

482
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 5: Regardless of what you've done, even those that have played,

483
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 5: you know, your sport, they're going to have something to say,

484
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 5: whether it's good or bad, because what you've done is

485
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: not enough to them. Despite what we may think on

486
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 5: the outside, despite what you may think and understanding how

487
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: great Lebron is and what he's done for organizations to date.

488
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 4: Again, he moves the needle.

489
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 5: So what's one way to move the needle on a

490
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 5: platform we want ies and viewers to listen. You talk

491
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 5: about the one all the way at the top.

492
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think Lebron is smart enough to know, Ojo.

493
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 2: He knows there's nothing he could do to topple Kobe.

494
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: That's not what he's just because I be just because

495
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to achieve something. That doesn't mean I'm trying

496
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: to take your statue down. Why can't we both be great?

497
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: I think he understands that in Miami, it's gonna be

498
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: It's Wade County.

499
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: He understood that.

500
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: Do I believe Do I believe in Dwayne Wade knows

501
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: that Lebron is a better player. Yes, But if you

502
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: might ask Miami Heat fan, they'll say, do you Wade?

503
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: So he knew no matter what he did, he could

504
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: not be winning enough championships to overcome Kobe, Magic, Kareem

505
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: and Shaq. That wasn't gonna happen. And I think I

506
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: don't think he's he was that naive. It's like, man,

507
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: you know what, And I don't think he win it

508
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: with that mindset. He didven going with that mindset Kobe.

509
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: Kobe came there as a seventeen year old kid and

510
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: left as a fully grown married father of three four kids.

511
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: Rest his soul and Gigi. That's what he did there,

512
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: and that's okay. Same thing with Magic. Magic came there

513
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: and never left. Magic was a twenty year old now

514
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: mostly the other great player. I'll be obviously a shock.

515
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: Spent spent four years, if I'm not mistaken, in Orlando.

516
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: Kareem spent I think six years in Milwaukee. But you know,

517
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: you look at James Worthy, you look at Jared Wes

518
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, and and Elgin Baylor. Uh, those

519
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: guys you know spent their careers there. But I just

520
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what Lebron did to piss off so

521
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: many people. Oh, Joe, Yeah, I believe I can, like

522
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 2: I can like Travis Kelce without constantly taking shots at Gronk,

523
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: constantly taking shots at at Gates or Gonzales. I believe

524
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: I can do that. But it's almost like I wonder

525
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: if he was if he was anywhere else other than

526
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: the Lakers. And I loved be Scott. I used to

527
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: see be Scott all the time in the gym. We

528
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: used to see the gym equinox and I used to

529
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: see be Scott all the time. We always talk who

530
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 2: and he's a great guy. But I wonder if Lebron

531
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: wasn't on the Lakers, would he still feel his time

532
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: for Lebron to leave.

533
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 5: No, absolutely not, because I mean is love for the Lakers.

534
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 5: It'd be different because it's not on my team.

535
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: It's because when Kobe Kobe last year's do you hear

536
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: anything about the Lakers?

537
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: You know, damn well, nobody would there say that?

538
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: No, But no, I ain't talking about talking want Kobe

539
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: to leave, but he wasn't even mentioned the Lakers, the Lacers,

540
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: they have no chance. Ain't nobody to talk about Lakers

541
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: and a chance to contend for a title? Nobody mentioned that?

542
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: And then when Kobe left, ain't nobody mentioned the Lakers

543
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: to contending for a title?

544
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: Right? The mere fact that you even think it's possible.

545
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: Is because Lord was a forty one year.

546
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: Old to get to the championship. Let you know just

547
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: how great this man is. Tell me the time in

548
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: history another forty something year old has played, and you

549
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: know what, they have a chance to get to the championship,

550
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: or they had a chance to contend for a title.

551
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 5: Outside of time leaving New England until god damn the NBA. Okay, now,

552
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 5: not Jordan, not Kobe.

553
00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: No his longevity, yes, but look you got his reading

554
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: for whatever it is.

555
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

556
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, so I don't want to get into speculating.

557
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: That was something said. I don't know, And I know,

558
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: be Scott loved his Lakers and if you played in

559
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 2: this organization most especially he spent most of his years there. Yeah,

560
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: m but be Scott, you know now you know that

561
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: there was a transition that when Kobe won the championship

562
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: in ten, nine and ten, they didn't come close. They

563
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: didn't come close, and nobody said the thing ain't nobody

564
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: said so eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen.

565
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: So eight years, nine years, ain't like if they ain't

566
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: come close. Yeah, m hm. And y'all had Kobe.

567
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: So you had Kobe eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixty,

568
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: fifteen fifteen.

569
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 5: Hey, well they ain't had nothing to go with him. Hey,

570
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 5: it was the main course with no sound.

571
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: Well you don't need nothing, because when when Lebron didn't

572
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: have nothing to go on him, y'all to say if

573
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: he was great, he would win. That's what y'all did

574
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: with Lebron. Now they did this when Lebron, when you

575
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: never did that with anybody else. Yeah, you didn't do

576
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: that with like you see what you say, see what

577
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: you saying on ya? They done got you convinced of that.

578
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 5: Oh no, I mean, I'm just being honest. I'm just

579
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 5: I'm just being honest. I mean, Kobe, Kobe's the main dish.

580
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 5: There was no size to go with it. There wasn't

581
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 5: no dessert. So the chance of winning was slimming.

582
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: None.

583
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: Now thought, were you so great? That's what you do?

584
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: You don't need nobody who needed teammates? Show what y'all

585
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: tell I'll be because every time I turn around, he

586
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: couldn't win a championship without d Wade, he couldn't win

587
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: a championship without Kyrie, he couldn't win a championship without

588
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis.

589
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: And you just told me Kobe ain't have nobody to

590
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: go with.

591
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: The last I checked shacks in the Hall of Fame.

592
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Last I checked piled the saults in the Hall of Fame.

593
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: Last I checked Scotty Pippot's in the Hall of Fame,

594
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: Dennis problems in the Hall of Fame.

595
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: So, in other words, what you're.

596
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: Trying to tell me if that, no matter how great

597
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: you are, you need a team made a.

598
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: Two absolutely, okay, I'm just checking.

599
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: I'm just you know, hey, you got to have a

600
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 5: two headed monster. If you got three, it'd make it

601
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: even make it that it make it that that much

602
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 5: easier if you got three. But thinking you're gonna get

603
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 5: it done, but one man, you got four, you know,

604
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 5: just four partners out there just just going through the motion.

605
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: It's not happening, Duncan happening.

606
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: Duncan had Manu had Manu and Tony Parker and then

607
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: the last one he had Kawhi.

608
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: Mhm, hey, boy, Kawhi was crazy at uh with the spurs.

609
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Boy. Oh after tim after Timmy left, what after?

610
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, my goodness.

611
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: He knew, he knew he had to take over more

612
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: of a role. He had to take over. You know,

613
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: he was perfectly ten playing the back seat. You know, Hey,

614
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: I let all A, let Manu, let TP let Timmy

615
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: pops it now, Bro, this time for you. He's like, okay,

616
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: are you I'll give you twenty five twenty six a

617
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: night and lock it down on the other end.

618
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: But I'm surprised.

619
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: I think the thing that's surprises is that people say, Look,

620
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: people might feel a certain way and might say things

621
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: in private ojo that never get public air. But to

622
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: say this publicly, I'm a little surprised.

623
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: You know what, And you know, we don't know also

624
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 5: what there might be things that go on behind closed doors.

625
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 5: There might be things that are said that going behind

626
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: closed doors that we don't know about. That also makes

627
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: Byron Scott say something like this publicly that has nothing

628
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 5: to do with anything that we know.

629
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: Okay here, Scott also seemed to take issue with Lebron, saying,

630
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: today's games it's harder to play than in the eighties

631
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: and nineties.

632
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: The game is different.

633
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: I want people and our fans to understand that playing

634
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: eighty two games in the eighties and nineties, it's not

635
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: the same as playing eighty two games in the twenty twenties.

636
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: It's just not the way we play.

637
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: The level of pace, the level of speed in which

638
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: we're playing a different it's a different game now.

639
00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: It's a totally different game. It is. It is when

640
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: when when when?

641
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: When Beast got played in the eighties and the nineties,

642
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: they might have two guys per team that can shoot

643
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: the three. Now on the twelve man roster, they got

644
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: ten guys that can shoot the three, and you have

645
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: to guard them all. Bless you. Everybody is a vible option.

646
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: There weren't no such thing as no stretch five, th

647
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: stretch four.

648
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: They have that.

649
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: Now the pace is increased, bless you. Yeah, the pace

650
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: has increased and you have to guard multiple every For

651
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: the most part, every agains evolution.

652
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: Guys are more skilled. The guys are skilled.

653
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, much better.

654
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: You ain't have no Kevin Durants. You ain't have no

655
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: damn whimpys. You didn't have that. You damn you ain't

656
00:31:52,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: have no step courage, bless you. It's okay, it's okay,

657
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: it's uh. It's a different game now, the NBA is.

658
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: The NBA is different that the NFL is different. It is,

659
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the game is, it's become. The guys are

660
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: doing oh joe, guys are doing more exotic coverages now

661
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: than when when when you and I played.

662
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that's okay, it's okay to say that.

663
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: That's not to diminish our era, that's not to enhance

664
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: their era.

665
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: It's just facts. You no more. The scouting departments have

666
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: gotten better.

667
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: You think you think scouting now back you think when

668
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: they started scouting.

669
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: Players, uh with Cleveland Browns when they first started.

670
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: The thing is is that Paul Bryd's reported that Paul

671
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: Brown the reason why they tied the forty O joe

672
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: because that's how far the punt went.

673
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: So how fast could.

674
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: Somebody get down there to gudea them all normally hung

675
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: up there by four point five seconds?

676
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: Right, four point five second? You could run like that card.

677
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: You run it pretty good.

678
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: That Dallas Cowboys and gil Brandt took it a step

679
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: further because, oh joe, you know, they used to draft

680
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: players and never work them out. They just look at

681
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: the scouting thing, look at them and look at them

682
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: in college where you gonna play. So come on, we're

683
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: gonna draft you first, We're gonna draft you the second round,

684
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna draft you the fifteenth round, the seventeenth round.

685
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Then the Cowboys take it a step further. Gil Brandt

686
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: tech Stram the actually brain player. They put him through everything,

687
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: hence a combine, a combine style workout. So you think, so,

688
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: you think the way they started scouting players in the

689
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 2: sixties is the same way these scout players now. They

690
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: got these scouts on the road every day, an weekend,

691
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: o joe, every week they find somewhere looking at players.

692
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: They didn't do that in the sixties.

693
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, they didn't even have a combine.

694
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: They just drafted a guy based on what his college

695
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: numbers were, how he looked at college, and they drafted him.

696
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Things change people, and it's okay, it is okay. That

697
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that doesn't take away anything from the sixties

698
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: seventies eighties, ninety two, thousand and so forth and on.

699
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: It's just that's just the way it is. It is,

700
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: it happens, and technology changes.

701
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: Oh choke.

702
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: Look at the cleves, look at the helmets, look at

703
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: the basketball shoe.

704
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: Look at the way they trained horses. That's changed.

705
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why people can't see that evolution. It's

706
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: gonna happen with your blessing or without it not.

707
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, or they don't care when one or

708
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 4: the other. They're complaining it. They're complaining about it anyway.

709
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: Everything gets better over time.

710
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: Uh.

711
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: Tonight.

712
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: Lebron moving into fifth place on the Lakers all time

713
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: assists list, surpassing Michael Cooper. Magic is one, Kobe is two,

714
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: Jerry West is three, Storm, and Norman Nickson's four. Lebron

715
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: is five, Cooper is six, Kareem is seven, elgend Baylor

716
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: is eight. Excuse me. This is Lebron's eighth season with

717
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Obviously, we know Kobe spent twenty years their Magic.

718
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: I think from seventy nine. I think Magic played about

719
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: twelve years, Coop played. We know Kareem played I think

720
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen years there, and I saw Lebron is the

721
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: second Laker to make a thousand threes, only behind Kobe.

722
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: And obviously, you know Kobe played twenty season with that

723
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: organization and was great, and Lebron is already second. Obviously,

724
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: they shoot more threes now than they did back when

725
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: Kobe got into the league. Oh, Joe, how do you

726
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: think Lebron would be remembered as a Laker? You think

727
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: that You think he gets his jersey retired? You think

728
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: he gets a statue out front.

729
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: You know what I don't.

730
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: I don't think he gets a statue off front, But

731
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 5: I think he gets in jersey retired. I mean what

732
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: he was able to do once he came to the

733
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: Lakers and helping that franchise obviously win a ring, a

734
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: ring that a lot of people put an asterisk behind

735
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 5: because it was a bubble ring or whatever it may be.

736
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Because Lebron wanted somebody would put no bubble behind it.

737
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

738
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying, But people have to understand

739
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 5: and and and and take whatever hate they may have

740
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: for Lebron to understand and what he was able to

741
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: do during his time during his tenure with the Lakers,

742
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 5: with what he had to work with outside of that

743
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 5: I mean, being one of the greatest, arguably the greatest,

744
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: the one or two basketball players who ever played this game.

745
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: I think he should be acknowledged in such a fashion,

746
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: in such a way based on that alone, whether he

747
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 5: gets a statue or not, but retiring the twenty three

748
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 5: jersey for the Lakers, it would only be right, and

749
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 5: not to do so, it'd be ridiculous. It'd be damn egregious.

750
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: I mean, imagine, Oh Jo, just thinking about this, I

751
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: want you to picture this. Tom Brady is one of

752
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: the three greatest high school football players ever. Yes, he

753
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 2: goes to college and he's one of the three greatest

754
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: college football players ever and the next big thing. And

755
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: he comes to the NFL and even as a great

756
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: high school player and a great collegiate player, he's even

757
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: better in the NFL. Well, that's what Lebron James was. Yes,

758
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 2: he's one of the three great high school players ever.

759
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: And whatever you may have thought he could have been,

760
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: he superseded.

761
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: That, exceeded it completely.

762
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: He's exceed exponentially.

763
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: Nobody thought this man would be a four time league MVP,

764
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: go to ten NBA finals, win four of them, four

765
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: finals MVPs.

766
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: What two to three All Star Game MVP.

767
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: He's the all time leading scorer, he's the fourth leading

768
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: or sister. He's a top thirty rebounder. He's a top

769
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: fifteen or ten, A six guy, I mean a steals guy.

770
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Nobody thought bad. Whatever you thought Lebron James can be

771
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: based on what he was in high school. And they've

772
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: been a lot of great high school players, right, Lebron

773
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: is Ojo And his name hadn't come up on any

774
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: crime blodder. He hadn't been a source of tablaid speculation.

775
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: He's been squeaky squeaky clean.

776
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely, And still people find fault. Well,

777
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 5: he flops. All great players hunt calls, they do just

778
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: like every time the quarterback gets hit.

779
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: What does he do? Ojo? Look to the flag?

780
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, shot, You saw that man hit me. I know

781
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: we played football, but he wasn't supposed to hit me.

782
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: He was supposed to hit me.

783
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: Hit me.

784
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's supposed to lay me down. You know,

785
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: ain't got no pillow. Hey, you got to go to

786
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: the sidide and get him a pillow so you can throw.

787
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Me on the pillow.

788
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 5: People always complain. It just depends on who's doing the flopping.

789
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: It always depends on who's doing the hunting. Then they

790
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 5: turn a blind eye. Depends on who it is. That's

791
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: all it is true.

792
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: I agree with you though I don't think he gets

793
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: a statue, but I do think I think they based

794
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: on what he's done, you know, the All Star, the

795
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: All Star games.

796
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I think.

797
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: So he's been the eight All Star. He's been what

798
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: he's been, he's gonna be. He was a seven time

799
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: All NBA selection. So if you cut his career up

800
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: in sevens, in sevens or if you cut it up

801
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: in eight, he's a Hall of Fame player. Every eight,

802
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: every eight, he's a Hall of Famer.

803
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

804
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: And I know they're gonna miss Hi when he's gone.

805
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: Let him tell it.

806
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: The game will continue to go on. Yeah, it's going,

807
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: but it won't be an anything like that. We won't

808
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 5: see anything like this for a very long time ever,

809
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 5: if ever again.

810
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: No no no, no, no, no, no no no. No.

811
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: A guy, a guy, a guy that played this long

812
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: and to play played that great this long. Yeah, it

813
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: was a big night for the unrivaled semifinals. KP Kelsey

814
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: Palm hit a game winner to go to the championship.

815
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: She finished with thirty one points, six rebounds five or

816
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: six and then a Riquewale also hit the game winner.

817
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Uh fans started chanting play the players paid the players.

818
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to this guys.

819
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: Kpete KP was.

820
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: She was the women's all time leading scorer at one

821
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: point time until Kitlyn Clark broke a record. She the

822
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: number one draft pick. So KP can get it. KP

823
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: got booked. KP and hensy on you. Hey she quickly

824
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: tried to get to the rear with that left it

825
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: and hey, go all the way up underneath, or hey,

826
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: hey she'll go up with the right hand. A Rique,

827
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: she been making you go back and check out it.

828
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: Know the dame when she hit that buffer beat her.

829
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: This is what Rik do. This is what Rik does. Yeah,

830
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: this is I'm not surprised when they say, oh, man,

831
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: Arik hit a gate and tell me something I didn't

832
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 2: know that Jeff Bezos soul bean piles of the truck

833
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: start with he a kid, that's something that I didn't know.

834
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: But you're gonna tell me Rique hit the game winner, okay, and.

835
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 2: Right right, Hey, look the unrival is doing a great

836
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: job down there in Florida. I love watching those girls

837
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: come out and compete on a night to night basis.

838
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: I love what they did with the one v one setting.

839
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, Unk, you're right, KP. She the real McCoy man.

840
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: That girl got some game and she toughest nails too,

841
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: bro tough for the wet level.

842
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: Shepherds.

843
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what she'd be out there getting to it. Oh, Joe,

844
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm talking about them girls. Hey, look do you see

845
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: the crowd. It's sold out up and there, look so

846
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: so so they talking to the w NBA when they

847
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: say pay the players, yes, the under I think the

848
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: Unrival is doing a pretty good job, uh uh and

849
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: hosting the girls obviously packed. Joe, think about this, Joe.

850
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: The sad part is this is happening in Unrival, not

851
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: the w n B. A yeah, imagine, imagine, Joe. We're

852
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: getting plays like this and the players is not the

853
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: It's not the NBA. This is what you should be

854
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: having in your league. Absolutely, absolutely, this is what This

855
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: is what we should have.

856
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: This is what should happen.

857
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into the boy news because

858
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't know enough on either side. All I know

859
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: is is that I hope they don't miss this opportunity

860
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: up because the women game was starting to grow.

861
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: And whoever was been charged for I don't care.

862
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't care who wants to get the credit, who

863
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: takes the credit. All I know is that there was

864
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: a level of interest in the women's game that wasn't

865
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: there before, and people started talking about it.

866
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: We were talking about it.

867
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: We were talking about it on ESPN, and we were

868
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: talking about it on here, and so people started to talk.

869
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: So I don't care who wants to get the credit

870
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: or who deserves the credit.

871
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: I just want the women.

872
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: I want the game to grow and everybody to be happy.

873
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: So Caitlyn Clark she not playing in this right, No,

874
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: she didn't play no rival shit for what she does

875
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: six million off the court? Why she needed to play?

876
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: These women? They're on a handful of women that's making bugs.

877
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: Uh Asia makes money off the court, Sabrina Netcul off

878
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: the court. Caitlyn Clark is the moby Dick, is the

879
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: white whale. He makes money off the court. But all

880
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: these other women and to keep from going overseas and

881
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: and being he'll be captain. Okay, let's start this and

882
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: doing a great job hopefully the women now all of

883
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: a sudden can make seven fifty million dollars a year

884
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: as opposed to women taking pay cuts, especially with nil

885
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark took.

886
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: A pay cut.

887
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they definitely seventy thousand. Yeah, they definitely

888
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: are gonna be making some ms in the next somebody years. Good. Hey, hey, look,

889
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: and it's gonna get better because if you can get

890
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: those big guns to join, like the Unrivaled, I don't

891
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: know if they would, but if you can get those

892
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: big guns to join, it'll it'll take it to a

893
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: whole other level, you know what I mean. Like you

894
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: gotta look at girls like Juju Watkins, who will be

895
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: coming to who will be coming into the w NBA

896
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: or playing in the Unrivaled maybe maybe next year.

897
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: Or Georgia.

898
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, she not playing a senior she's not playing a

899
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: junior year. She's gonna be the first player selected.

900
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

901
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

902
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: And and them ladies that can go one on one

903
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 2: Paige Becker's yeah, Chelsea Gray kp.

904
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

905
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: Although Juju Caitlyn would be uh uh. It would love

906
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: to see Caitlyn play, but I don't think she's gonna play.

907
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: Asia has other things other interest going on outside of that,

908
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: So I don't think Asia is gonna play.

909
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: But it was.

910
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: It was an unbelievable scene tonight. It was an unbelievable setting.

911
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I hated, I hated to see KP leave Vegas,

912
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: but I mean she was a third option. Yeah, yeah,

913
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: she's the third option. Everything's gonna run through Asia. Everybody

914
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: understands that were talking about the greatest. Well, if she's

915
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: not the greatest, she's top two and she ain't two

916
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: to me. But anyway, that's there. But with that being said,

917
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: she understood. You got Chelsea, you got Jackie Young. She's like,

918
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: you know what I want to do, but I want

919
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: to start my own thing, and more power to it

920
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: because she played unbelievable. I love her game, Like you said, Joe,

921
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: She's extremely tough. She's passionate about the game they played. Hey, they'

922
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 2: pure day, they'd be a I mean, I can't take another.

923
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: I can't say enough about him. I love watching them play. Rique. Uh,

924
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: she's she's phenomenal. Hey, y'all, do know Chelsea Gray? When

925
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: she won a one on one tournament, she got two

926
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 2: hundred grand That was more than her salary for the Wnba. Yes, yes, yeah, yes,

927
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: I know and so and she wan you know she

928
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: won the MVP. She can play. But like I said, uh,

929
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: so many of these women, especially now, And it happens

930
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: when the NFL started, guys making you know, one hundred

931
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: dollars a game o hoe and each year generation and

932
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: hopefully guys look back and because I'm very thankful of

933
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: the guys that were in the seventies and eighty sixty

934
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: eighties that gave me an opportunity so I can make

935
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: the money that they didn't make. And the guys that

936
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: came after us that's making the money that we couldn't make.

937
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: So hopefully guys are appreciative and know that there are

938
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: a lot of sacrifice. There are a lot of guys

939
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 2: that got injuries and and and and and down down

940
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 2: on their look that didn't make it. Well you should

941
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: have saved them. Saved what what make it?

942
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: No money back? Then make it? Hey, you twelve five

943
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: dollars a year. I ain't a lot of money, right

944
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: you have.

945
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: Chelsea Gray was named twenty twenty six Unrival League MVP

946
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: and the second season with the rolls she got, they

947
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: got put out by Paige Beckers.

948
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: Team I think team the paper.

949
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's who beat them.

950
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

951
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: In the second season with the Rose b C, she

952
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: averaged twenty four point two career high five point six rebounds,

953
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: career high six point one assisted, career high four game winners.

954
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: It's you know, I think you know why I think

955
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: it's so fun to watch because it's three on three

956
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: full court. It's not it's not a traditional full court obviously,

957
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: it's the floor is shrunk a little bit, right, But

958
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: that's fun to see the change of pace to threell

959
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 2: on three. There's not a lot of help in situations

960
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: like that, like you really got to guard your yard,

961
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: guard your man, you know, hold your own. That's what

962
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: I love about it. Yeah. Yeah, and hey, they could

963
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: play a game like this is Taylor May for like

964
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: Kelsey who can handle the ball? Patrick Rock? You got

965
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: the game? One on one is good? Kelsey plump one

966
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: on one, page Becker's one on one.

967
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: A Ricae Riek.

968
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: One of women that can handle the rock one on

969
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: one is always gonna be be their thing. Absolutely. If

970
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: you can get by your man, you can get a bucket,

971
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: you can create off the dribble. Can't nobody stand in

972
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: front of you. This is this is your this is

973
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: this is what you do. You can't got that heasy

974
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: that head, oh man girl.

975
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Every time O Joe, we found a video, let's take

976
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: it out.

977
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: Joe didn't see what he got going. Ain't ain't no sound.

978
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what you got looking like Jackie Jordan Curtin.

979
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: I had to get to get them fans off what

980
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 4: folk incline on them.

981
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it two unc is I

982
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: could do it assisted, but if I had to do

983
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 5: it on my own, like free will, I never get

984
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 5: I never was that fast.

985
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, that's called that's oh speed training.

986
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm mm hmm.

987
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we do that.

988
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: We do we did on the treadmill, and we also

989
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: did it with a band that and gets you yeah, because.

990
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: Pull you along.

991
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: I thought you missed someone pulling you back.

992
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and then they released then they released it

993
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: and then you run it on your own.

994
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it gets it, gets you used to running at.

995
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: That speed, because like you said, you're not just running

996
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: hell god, So I could just imagine because they say,

997
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: you say boat could get up to twenty seven, So

998
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: if he can run twenty seven on his own, he

999
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: probably go crack thirty thirty one easy, damn?

1000
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: Why hey, man?

1001
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: That that when you run like that, Oh, it keeps

1002
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: your hips open, right.

1003
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, it gets you used because you

1004
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: can't stride.

1005
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 5: Now, you know you gotta you gotta turn over, You

1006
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: gotta turn over. You got with the treadmill. Yeah, donna

1007
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: stay with the trailmill. Yeah, gonna fly the fuck off boom.

1008
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly. That's exactly what's going to happen. So

1009
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: you get God, and so it's teaching you to turn over.

1010
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: Damn, o Joe. You Hey.

1011
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 5: The funny thing, the funny thing about it is the

1012
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: place that that was the place where I'm at Now

1013
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 5: I'm back, I'm back on the hit mill again. But

1014
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 5: I ain't got nowhere near No. Twenty four?

1015
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: How were you? How are you then? Running on that?

1016
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: I wasn't even playing no more. I wasn't even planning

1017
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 4: no more. That was that was.

1018
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 5: I forgot what year that was. I forgot what year

1019
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 5: that was. I definitely, I definitely wasn't playing