Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, Lyle.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be on the phone video.
Speaker 3: Oh amazing, what's your What's what's up?
Speaker 2: So, like, I'm kind of dealing with something right now.
Speaker 2: I kind of shot on somebody way too hard when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, and I'm afraid I like wouined
Speaker 2: their life.
Speaker 3: Ah okay, what did you? What did you in? What
Speaker 3: way did you ship on this person?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: I had this friend in my middle school and her
Speaker 2: parents were super strict and she was grounded. So she
Speaker 2: asked me to check for my Space. So I logged
Speaker 2: on and I was going through it, and I found
Speaker 2: an email between her and some guys in her class,
Speaker 2: and so I am talking really fast, but it was
Speaker 2: talking about like a threesome they had. And back in
Speaker 2: like my Space days, you could copy something and paste
Speaker 2: it on a board for like every everybody to see.
Speaker 2: So I copied that whole conversation and like tasted it,
Speaker 2: and like everybody in our school, her youth pastor everybody
Speaker 2: knew that she had like train rain on her and
Speaker 2: like her mom like sent her away. And my mom
Speaker 2: saw her years later at like Taco Bell, and she
Speaker 2: was like, your daughter ruined my life.
Speaker 3: She your mom saw her mom years later at Taco Bell.
Speaker 2: No, my mom saw her. She was like working and
Speaker 2: she noticed my mom and was like, hey, who are
Speaker 2: you so and so his mom and my mom was
Speaker 2: like yeah, and she was like, your daughter ruined my life.
Speaker 3: How many years later was that?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man? It was like ten years later?
Speaker 3: Really yeah?
Speaker 2: And like I told my mom and she was like, well,
Speaker 2: you didn't make her fuck those dudes.
Speaker 3: So how old were you guys when this was happening.
Speaker 2: We were unfortunately young, like probably eleven, twelve, eleven?
Speaker 3: Whoa, you guys were eleven?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, this like and the other guys were like really
Speaker 2: young too, Like this was way too young for any
Speaker 2: of this to be happening.
Speaker 3: Okay, so uh you uh all right. So the story
Speaker 3: is your your friend was grounded and she let you
Speaker 3: log into her MySpace page.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she used to change like her background and
Speaker 2: song all the time, so I was strictly supposed to
Speaker 2: do that. But she had said something about like my
Speaker 2: Lisa Frank folder was lame or something like that and
Speaker 2: kissed me off. And that's when I found that message,
Speaker 2: and I was like, ha, got her.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was going to ask what your your
Speaker 3: motive was in posting this message publicly. It was because
Speaker 3: she insulted your Lisa Frankfoelder.
Speaker 2: It was something like that, like I don't remember exactly,
Speaker 2: but it was nothing to like be what I did,
Speaker 2: Like I don't think.
Speaker 1: She deserved that.
Speaker 3: And so this DM of her, So what the DM
Speaker 3: was like her saying that she had a threesome with
Speaker 3: two other like guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what they were gonna do?
Speaker 4: It's the next shit and dig?
Speaker 3: Was this all true or were they just kind of
Speaker 3: screwing around?
Speaker 4: No? It was unfortunately true.
Speaker 3: Okay, And now when your friends realized that you had
Speaker 3: posted this message, how did she react?
Speaker 2: Oh, she was pissed, like so her mom found out
Speaker 2: and took like all of her ship out of her room.
Speaker 2: Her mom was nuts, like she took out like her
Speaker 2: hair brush, her mirror, like everything, like she wasn't allowed
Speaker 2: to brush her hair before she came to school. It
Speaker 2: was like it was batshit crazy. But she ran away
Speaker 2: and she kind of showed up at my house and
Speaker 2: UH was like crying and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I did that, and she was like are you serious?
Speaker 2: And I was kind of like, yeah, I need better
Speaker 2: leave before my mom gets home and then her mom
Speaker 2: came and got her.
Speaker 3: Uh was that the last time you saw her?
Speaker 2: It was, well, I saw her a couple of times
Speaker 2: at school, but she kind of hit out, But after
Speaker 2: that I didn't see her again.
Speaker 3: So she what a full decade later, at the age
Speaker 3: of twenty one, ten years later, told your mom that
Speaker 3: you ruined her life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I guess when she got sent off, she
Speaker 2: gotten more trouble, and I guess it was my fault
Speaker 2: she got turned off. But like, I didn't, you know,
Speaker 2: make the events happen. I was just kind of being
Speaker 2: a bit of a.
Speaker 3: Bitch, all right, have you since Well, okay, let me
Speaker 3: ask you this, what do you believe the fallout was
Speaker 3: on her end after you posted those those messages in
Speaker 3: terms of how uh you know it affected her when
Speaker 3: she went to school and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So like, I guess I kind of feel like she
Speaker 2: just blamed me because I didn't make her do that
Speaker 2: shit and I didn't make her keep doing that shit.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I kind of looked back
Speaker 2: at it and I'm like, man, that was really fucked
Speaker 2: up and harsh.
Speaker 3: Okay, did anything ever happen to the guy? Like the
Speaker 3: the other kid that that she was doing that with.
Speaker 2: No like they just got like high sighs, and no
Speaker 2: teachers or parents gave a shit. Okay, Like, I'm from
Speaker 2: a really small town, so this is kind of like
Speaker 2: a normal thing, unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you guys have not seen each other since
Speaker 3: you haven't reached out over by the way, says here
Speaker 3: that you're thirty now. Yeah, so she's also probably thirty. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 3: so a decade ago your mom ran into her at
Speaker 3: a taco bell and she said that you ruined her
Speaker 3: life via something a decade even earlier than that, right,
Speaker 3: and you're calling me to talk about this. Why is
Speaker 3: this rattling in your mind?
Speaker 2: I guess because like I've been thinking recently of like,
Speaker 2: you know, how to be a better person and like
Speaker 2: being more conscious of things that I've done, and that
Speaker 2: one just keeps radomly around and it makes me feel
Speaker 2: like super guilty. And I thought about reaching out to her,
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's been so long now,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, surely she can't still be mad, right, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Guess she was mad. I I don't really see what
Speaker 3: would happen in the second decade that wasn't resolved in
Speaker 3: the first decade. Okay, do you feel like it would
Speaker 3: be helpful to reach out or would it just be weird?
Speaker 2: I feel like it would be weird. Like I don't
Speaker 2: even live around there anymore. Like I have no clue
Speaker 2: what she's doing. I know she's got some kids now,
Speaker 2: so I kind of feel like, all right, we're like
Speaker 2: full ass grown now, Like there's no way she's still
Speaker 2: pissed about it, right, But I mean there's things that
Speaker 2: I have to go to, you know, a therapist and
Speaker 2: talk to about my childhood. So I'm like, maybe she
Speaker 2: is still pissed about it.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, So you this is interesting. So because you
Speaker 3: know that there are still some things from that era
Speaker 3: that you're working through, you can imagine that perhaps she's
Speaker 3: still working through things from that era as well. I mean,
Speaker 3: especially considering she was probably you know, has some some
Speaker 3: fucking some some some shit from that era to workouts.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I mean like I don't agree what she
Speaker 2: was doing with but we're all human. We're all suck up,
Speaker 2: especially at that age.
Speaker 3: So this is rattling in your brain because you're kind
Speaker 3: of wondering how you can be a better person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, so I had like a pop in my lung,
Speaker 2: Like I had a cyst on my lung and it
Speaker 2: popped and it caused me to have like an inflated lung.
Speaker 2: And ever since that happen, it's kind of like got me, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can't control everything.
Speaker 5: You can just die.
Speaker 2: And I guess it's one of the things that I
Speaker 2: feel like it might be stupid. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I feel like it would It'd be something I
Speaker 2: would think about on my deskbed, like it would be
Speaker 2: one of the things in the list of regrets or
Speaker 2: I wish I would have.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I mean that's quite a grand epiphany there.
Speaker 3: What now is between you and reaching out?
Speaker 2: Because I just don't know if it would be weird?
Speaker 2: And I also kind of feel like she would just
Speaker 2: tell me to fuck off, and I wouldn't be mad
Speaker 2: at her for it. I would be like, all right, So,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe I should just reach out.
Speaker 3: Okay, but let me let's go back to your grand epiphany,
Speaker 3: your grand epiphany that you are fallible as a human being,
Speaker 3: You're a mortal, You're you're mortal. Uh, you want to
Speaker 3: do everything that you're considering doing before you die. Okay,
Speaker 3: that epiphany and that's your epiphany. Is that accurate?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, i'd say so.
Speaker 3: All right. Nowhere in that epiphany is there any concern
Speaker 3: of any sort of outcome of your actions? Do you understand?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's just shit I want to do before.
Speaker 3: I die or not. It's not ship that, it's not
Speaker 3: it's it's conversations. Your your feeling is that you need
Speaker 3: to have. It's chances. Your feeling is that you need
Speaker 3: to take. It's not outcomes that you need from those things.
Speaker 3: And the fears that you're having of chasing those of
Speaker 3: taking those actions, they're coming from a fear of the outcome.
Speaker 3: But the outcome is not important. It's not even it's
Speaker 3: just not relevant. So if what you want to do
Speaker 3: is have the conversation and go have the conversation and
Speaker 3: don't worry about the outcome because the outcome is not
Speaker 3: relevant in terms of you take action on your epiphany.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: That does make sense.
Speaker 2: That fits in a lot of aspects of my life,
Speaker 2: and I think I'm going to reach out.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, What are you working on in therapy from
Speaker 3: that age?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man? Like I kind of had like a so
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a whole thing. But in people
Speaker 2: in the chat are probably gonna think I'm lying, but
Speaker 2: unfortunately I'm not. But my parents were carnies. I'm not
Speaker 2: even a citty. Like they had a concession stand and
Speaker 2: we lived in a small town so when they were
Speaker 2: on their off season, when they weren't traveling, we lived
Speaker 2: in this town and it's a small town in Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: and just people gave my family shit all the time.
Speaker 2: And like we lived in a trailer because you know,
Speaker 2: they travel during the summer, So I caught a lot
Speaker 2: of shit and it just sucked and it took me
Speaker 2: a really long time to, I guess kind of get
Speaker 2: over it.
Speaker 3: What were people giving you shit about?
Speaker 1: Oh that?
Speaker 2: Like we were carnival trash and trailer trash, and like
Speaker 2: my parents made pretty good money, like they truly did,
Speaker 2: but people were just assholes. They just didn't like outsiders
Speaker 2: and we just stuck out. Like my dad bought a
Speaker 2: piece of land and he put our trailer on it
Speaker 2: and it was like by the school and people would
Speaker 2: just like come and park on his land just like
Speaker 2: piss them off.
Speaker 4: Like it was just bad.
Speaker 2: It was just a bad situation.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: They don't even live there anymore.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like any part of you like posted
Speaker 3: that thing on MySpace as a retaliation from that?
Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely feel like I took a lot of
Speaker 2: like pain and anger that I had from other things
Speaker 2: and pointed it toward her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That could be something for you
Speaker 3: guys to talk about.
Speaker 2: That's definitely something I'll bring up at my next.
Speaker 3: Actually, there's the anything else you want to say to
Speaker 3: the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys' time. While I'm a fan, always
Speaker 2: will be, and I hope everybody has a great night.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ashley, have a good night.
Speaker 4: Thanks nis.
Speaker 3: Man. Kids are crazy. It's very It's you know, it's
Speaker 3: funny to me that like a scandal like that could
Speaker 3: be happening in like two thousand and three where there
Speaker 3: was just my Space. I mean, imagine the crazy shit
Speaker 3: going on today with all the different social platforms. It's
Speaker 3: that's the thing that scares me about TikTok, I'll say,
Speaker 3: is that, like, you know, something embarrassing going viral on
Speaker 3: on on Facebook or MySpace, like within that community. Like
Speaker 3: when I was in middle school, there would be dramas
Speaker 3: and embarrassing things happening, like on Facebook groups and whatnot,
Speaker 3: and at the very least, whatever the gossip was or
Speaker 3: the embarrassing thing, like you know, like that MySpace DM
Speaker 3: that she was talking about, it would be limited to
Speaker 3: that community. But TikTok fucks it up because somebody could
Speaker 3: post that DM on TikTok and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you're not just you know, exposed to the people in
Speaker 3: your high school. It's like millions of strangers that are
Speaker 3: seeing your embarrassing stuff. It's like, you know, times a
Speaker 3: hundred what it was if you had something, you know,
Speaker 3: fucked up happening on MySpace. So, you know, just another
Speaker 3: reason we're fucked Nah, I'm not. I'm not a doomer
Speaker 3: of because I think we'll be okay. Probably maybe if
Speaker 3: it scares you that much, go outside and look at
Speaker 3: some grass, you'll be okay. Hello, Hi, Lyle, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 1: This is Will?
Speaker 3: Why are you laughing?
Speaker 1: I uh, I'm laughing because I actually just took a
Speaker 1: ship and I was scared that you were going to
Speaker 1: pick up while I was doing that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know why that would make you laugh.
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm not used. So I don't know
Speaker 3: how your brain works. And it's it's okay, we can
Speaker 3: we can move past this. What's going on? Will?
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about my kind of
Speaker 1: hatred for fat people, which is kind of been an
Speaker 1: issue in my life for a little while.
Speaker 3: All Right, why do you hate fat people?
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I mean, if I had to
Speaker 1: take a well, I guess it's I do kind of know.
Speaker 1: But I used to be overweight when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and like overweight. You know, there's some people who are
Speaker 1: overweight and are still like athletic, play sports or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I was overweight and like very weak and got
Speaker 1: out of breath all the time, and I lost the weight.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Now I'm in the exercise fitness and you know, I
Speaker 1: also spent a lot of time.
Speaker 6: Back in the day on places like four Chan, you know,
Speaker 6: stuff that's pretty you know, mean towards people in general,
Speaker 6: a lot of bullying, and.
Speaker 1: It's just something that I can't really get rid of,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you used to spend a lot of time,
Speaker 3: you know, bullying people on message boards, you.
Speaker 1: Say, pretty much mostly lurking you know now, you know,
Speaker 1: not like rating people, not specifically targeting people, but just
Speaker 1: being around that community a lot.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, And are you are you still active
Speaker 3: doing that stuff? It's you know, if you are, you know,
Speaker 3: you don't have to.
Speaker 1: You know, I recently, I recently quit it.
Speaker 3: Okay. What made you make the decision to quit?
Speaker 1: Just a lot of introducing a lot of negativity into
Speaker 1: my life. You know, I'm trying to be a more
Speaker 1: positive person overall, Like you know, just my first instinct
Speaker 1: is to judge people based on their appearance basically, and
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's you know, not just their weight.
Speaker 1: But I just it's a very I'm a very judgmental
Speaker 1: person at this point. And I don't know if I
Speaker 1: was like that before. You know, I guess spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time. You know, I'm not saying it's totally
Speaker 1: like the fault of the internet, but that's myself, you know,
Speaker 1: that's myself to blame too.
Speaker 3: Sure, So what was the the catalyst of this change?
Speaker 3: What what made you realize that you want to less
Speaker 3: negativity in your life?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: I tried to quit before, but you know, it's like
Speaker 1: this keeps pulling me back in I can't say there
Speaker 1: was like a specific event, but I realized, like I was,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I'm Christian. I was in church
Speaker 1: one time, you know, in a break and I realized
Speaker 1: I was looking at my phone like looking at like
Speaker 1: like making fun of fat people in church, Like, what
Speaker 1: the what am I doing? What the fuck am I
Speaker 1: doing right now? You know I'm supposed to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm supposed to be about. You know,
Speaker 1: that's not how I'm supposed to be living my life.
Speaker 1: You know, whether you're religious or not. You know, the
Speaker 1: going about going around hating people is not like a
Speaker 1: way to happily live your life and putting negativity on others.
Speaker 1: It just kind of puts it on yourself too, like
Speaker 1: you feel it also, you.
Speaker 3: Know of course of course, so when you were a child,
Speaker 3: you were you were a little overweight as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: h so what I mean, what was it? Were you
Speaker 3: were you projecting? In some sense?
Speaker 1: I think so? And also my dad is pretty overweight,
Speaker 1: and I guess I am not having the best relationship
Speaker 1: with him nowadays. It's like it's not it's not terrible,
Speaker 1: but it just we don't really like get along like
Speaker 1: we used to. And I guess I just want, like
Speaker 1: I don't have the heart to tell him, like, you know,
Speaker 1: to clean up his diet, you know, to watch you know,
Speaker 1: to exercise stuff like that. So it just that's something
Speaker 1: that also bothers me a lot about him. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's a part of the you know.
Speaker 3: Do you do you hate me?
Speaker 1: I don't hate you, Lyle, I don't. I don't like people.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm friends with plenty of fat people. Okay,
Speaker 1: and plus, Lyle, you're just chubby, but.
Speaker 3: Okay, chumping. This is a form of chumping. This is
Speaker 3: a form of fatness.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I'm not I'm not perfect myself.
Speaker 1: You know, I definitely gained about five pounds this holiday break.
Speaker 1: Got to lose it. But like, I'm friends with plenty
Speaker 1: of people, overweight people and even like obese people. I
Speaker 1: have a couple of beest people, and I really don't care,
Speaker 1: you know, like I want them, I want to help them,
Speaker 1: Like I kind of wish they would come to me
Speaker 1: and be like, you know, I want to change, but
Speaker 1: it's not something I really care about when they're my friends,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's like first impressions of people, like
Speaker 1: I see someone on the street and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just don't like you, Like I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't interact with you, like I just but if I
Speaker 1: got to know them, I bet I would Like. Maybe
Speaker 1: I can't say I would be friends with them, because
Speaker 1: you can't be friends with everyone, but be like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're a good person. I'm sure they have interests, and
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I'm not really judgeful about people's
Speaker 1: character all that much, mostly just I guess appearance wise.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, from everything that you're saying to
Speaker 3: me right now, it sounds as though you are coming
Speaker 3: to all the realizations that that would be natural for
Speaker 3: one to come to, uh you know, is they're kind
Speaker 3: of trying to change their personality, right. You know, You've
Speaker 3: made this decision that you want to have less negativity
Speaker 3: in your life, and it sounds as that you're sticking
Speaker 3: to that decision, and you made the decision to quit
Speaker 3: going on these message boards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Okay, do.
Speaker 3: You hate any other stuff or just fat people?
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't lie, you know, I do have
Speaker 1: some other prejudices in me, okay, but I guess that's
Speaker 1: the most prevalent one, you know, okay.
Speaker 5: Yea, And.
Speaker 3: How as you're moving forward are you are you hoping
Speaker 3: to work on your prejudices?
Speaker 1: You know, I guess it sounds cheesy, but you know,
Speaker 1: just I guess do experiences, you know, not just with
Speaker 1: you says sad people or whatever, but just experience new things,
Speaker 1: like I guess I since I started college, I don't
Speaker 1: really hang out with many people besides my girlfriend, And
Speaker 1: you know, I think I just need to experience more
Speaker 1: things with more different types of people versus hanging out
Speaker 1: with the same people I have for years. At this point,
Speaker 1: you know, make new friends, just get some different points
Speaker 1: of view, you know, even if I don't agree with
Speaker 1: all of them, because I don't, because I'm pretty set
Speaker 1: my ways a lot about a lot of things. But
Speaker 1: at least I'm the kind of person that at least
Speaker 1: I think I can just have a discussion with people
Speaker 1: about different viewpoints. Like you know, Le, I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: agree with all your opinions, but I do love your show,
Speaker 1: and you know, it opens me up to two more
Speaker 1: things that I wouldn't really think about before.
Speaker 3: So well, what opinions have I expressed that you disagree with?
Speaker 1: Nothing in particular. I think just sometimes your mindset is
Speaker 1: kind of like and none of this like matters, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's it's nothing like huge, It's just you know,
Speaker 1: well we can't agree.
Speaker 3: On everything, but I know I'm open to I'm open
Speaker 3: to discussing. I'm always open to discussing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Like, there was that fucking real therapist guy that I
Speaker 3: talked to, Yeah, like, what what did you what about
Speaker 3: the mindset of nothing matters? What's your counterpoint to that?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I can't say, you know, you definitely
Speaker 1: do preach positivity on the people, but you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's my main thing, is that I guess I'm trying
Speaker 1: to just be better at making a positive impact on
Speaker 1: people I meet. You know, even if say I don't
Speaker 1: really you know, I have a lot of experiences of
Speaker 1: people being very rude to me because I'm the sports
Speaker 1: officially and I do baseball, and people are just kind
Speaker 1: of horrible to to umpires and officials. But I at
Speaker 1: least try my best to you know, be civil within
Speaker 1: you know, pleasurable. That's not the word pleasant with everybody
Speaker 1: that I mean, you know, so at the very least,
Speaker 1: even if I don't like them. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to come off as a rude because it's just
Speaker 1: adding more negativity into the world, which I have enough of,
Speaker 1: which I need to get rid of.
Speaker 3: You know, well, listen, these are all good things. That
Speaker 3: says what you says that you're in nineteen Yeah, okay, Well,
Speaker 3: well listen, I'm going to say this good that you're
Speaker 3: I I fully and utterly believe in the uh, you know,
Speaker 3: capacity to grow and space is needed. And I think
Speaker 3: you know the fact that you're coming at this uh
Speaker 3: really self aware of of, you know, the things in
Speaker 3: your life and the thoughts that are that are holding
Speaker 3: you back from a deeper experience as a human being
Speaker 3: on this earth. It's good to have that awareness, especially uh,
Speaker 3: you know, so young, because it takes a lot of
Speaker 3: people a lot of time too to wake up from that.
Speaker 3: Some people never do, you know, they become they keep that,
Speaker 3: they keep their prejudices with them held tightly and you know,
Speaker 3: into into their you know, to their fucking deaths some people.
Speaker 3: So this is good, man. It's good that you're going
Speaker 3: to try to put yourself out there in situations where
Speaker 3: you can talk to people that maybe you wouldn't normally
Speaker 3: normally talk to mhmm, gee, how recent of a thing
Speaker 3: is this?
Speaker 1: Probably, I guess in the last couple of years. I
Speaker 1: lost weight about two and a half years ago, and
Speaker 1: since then it's been like, you know, I guess I
Speaker 1: started to develop the mindset of like, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can do it, why can't you do it? But
Speaker 1: you know that's not necessarily untrue, but it's like not
Speaker 1: that important. You know, if other people want to look
Speaker 1: like that, I can't stop them. There's plenty that you
Speaker 1: can't stop other people from doing unhealthy things, like you know,
Speaker 1: smoking or drugs whatever.
Speaker 3: So it's true, it is, it is, Uh, it is
Speaker 3: ultimately I mean, that's the thing about a lot of
Speaker 3: these things, is it's ultimately irrelevant to your own life.
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, man, I think of it that
Speaker 3: stuff too. I've had things. I've had that thought sometimes
Speaker 3: with certain things of like, well, if I can do this,
Speaker 3: how come these people can't do it? And you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. We all have our own fucking things, man,
Speaker 3: We all have our own struggles and our own levels
Speaker 3: of energy and whatever other factors as to why we
Speaker 3: don't operate the same exact way as the next person.
Speaker 3: Why are you laughing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Reprove me again?
Speaker 1: Well, wow, is it inappropriate to ask, like, you know,
Speaker 1: for just for your perspective, like what's your relationship.
Speaker 3: With with your weight and like health stuff? Like what
Speaker 3: do you ensure I feel about that? Sure? Sure, sure
Speaker 3: we can talk about that. Let's see.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I need to grow up a
Speaker 3: little bit. I really do. I feel like I need
Speaker 3: to grow up a little bit, and I think I
Speaker 3: need to eat better and exercise more and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: It's you know, I'm in a cycle right now. If
Speaker 3: you want to be my therapy, get go, I'm in
Speaker 3: a cycle of I've.
Speaker 1: Always wanted to be your therapy. Get go, dude.
Speaker 3: Sure, let's why not, let's do it. I have I
Speaker 3: don't have. I don't feel like I have enough time
Speaker 3: and energy to eat correctly an exercise. But I don't
Speaker 3: have enough time and energy because I don't need healthy
Speaker 3: and exercise. I feel like if I eat healthy and exercise,
Speaker 3: I'd have more energy exactly. So it's I'm stuck in
Speaker 3: that vicious cycle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what can I tell you? Like, I think
Speaker 1: eating and eating and working out are two different things.
Speaker 1: You know, if your goal is weight loss, like you
Speaker 1: don't have to step foot in such jet you.
Speaker 3: Know, Oh, I know, I know, But let me tell
Speaker 3: you what, Well, I got to tell you something. I
Speaker 3: got to tell you something. Will it's this is a shame,
Speaker 3: But like the way I feel when I am sitting
Speaker 3: in the parking lot of a Jack in the Box
Speaker 3: at one o'clock in the morning and I have my
Speaker 3: Cluck Chicken sandwich and my two tacos and my half
Speaker 3: onion rings, half fries, and the first bite that I'm
Speaker 3: taking of that Cluck Deluxe. I true, I'm say this
Speaker 3: with no FACTI facetiousness. I truly think it's the same
Speaker 3: way that people who are shooting up Heroin in a
Speaker 3: gutter field.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I know, you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, and I'm not trying to be rude
Speaker 1: about comparing to a Heroin addict. But our bodies, you know,
Speaker 1: they can develop dependencies on any sort of substances. You know,
Speaker 1: you talked to people who addicted to jerking off, or
Speaker 1: video games or I don't know, suckling on people's feet, whatever,
Speaker 1: anything's going to be an addiction. You know that creates dopamine.
Speaker 1: But listen, while you can still go to Jack in
Speaker 1: the Box at one in the morning, right, but instead
Speaker 1: of getting the burger and two tacos and shit, why
Speaker 1: I just like get a burger and one talk. You know,
Speaker 1: you can lose weight and feel like you'll feel better.
Speaker 1: You can just like tone it down a little bit,
Speaker 1: just a little less food, and seriously, you'll see results.
Speaker 1: You can be like, hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: this is easy, man. You know that's literally what I did.
Speaker 1: I was just eating the same stuff, but I was like,
Speaker 1: let me just cut this down by like thirty percent.
Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, I guess that's true. And
Speaker 3: I've always, I guess I've always felt like, well, I've
Speaker 3: always felt like I can't.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: My problem is, I've always been like an all or
Speaker 3: nothing guy. I've always been like either I am in
Speaker 3: the mindset of I'm gonna eat healthy or like I'm
Speaker 3: like doing fasting or I'm doing keto or something, or
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: No, don't know, you don't need to do that.
Speaker 3: Seriously, I know, but it's a problem. But it's prob
Speaker 3: because I know in my head. I know in my head,
Speaker 3: I'm like the only real way for sustainable change is
Speaker 3: to make it like a lifestyle, to incorporate it into
Speaker 3: my exactly.
Speaker 1: I know all these all these bad meme diets, do
Speaker 1: keto fasting, it's really unnecessary. Like, it's just about setting
Speaker 1: up like something you can do consistently that is not
Speaker 1: like too far over. You know, it's not over your
Speaker 1: daily burn calories. It's seriously that easy. And if you
Speaker 1: get in the mindset of like, I can do what
Speaker 1: I'm doing now, just tone it down a little bit,
Speaker 1: you'll feel great. You'll like it feels amazing. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't think I can do I don't think I can running.
Speaker 3: I don't think I can do what I'm doing now
Speaker 3: and tone it down a bit and lose weight. I
Speaker 3: don't think that me going to Jack in the Box
Speaker 3: at one o'clock in the morning and getting the cluck
Speaker 3: sandwich and one taco instead of two tacos. By the way,
Speaker 3: it comes that you order two tacos. It comes with
Speaker 3: two tacos. But okay, I don't think that that would
Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to brag that you've never
Speaker 3: been to Jack in the Box.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's not it's not ideal.
Speaker 3: But kidding. I don't think you're bragging, Like I think you're.
Speaker 1: The kind of guy that can get it done. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I know I need to grow up.
Speaker 3: I have this fucking podcast where I talk to people
Speaker 3: about their lives, and I I can't fix my own.
Speaker 3: That's it's really transtragic.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't.
Speaker 3: I really felt like I really have had epiphanies. I
Speaker 3: really have had epiphanies where I'm like, man, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm on this thing helping talking to people about their stuff,
Speaker 3: but I can't fucking not eat the two tacos.
Speaker 1: Well that's you know, that's that's anybody on the internet,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Like you go, you know, you like
Speaker 1: look up how to do something. You go and redd
Speaker 1: it and you're like and they're like, you know, giving
Speaker 1: you advice and have do shit, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: what are their qualifications? You know, you're not a real therapist,
Speaker 1: but you're just a guy who's lived life, and overall
Speaker 1: you get pretty solid advice. So, I mean, nobody should
Speaker 1: ever take anyone's opinion one hundred percent, but you can
Speaker 1: just apply it to your own life in in different ways.
Speaker 3: You know, well, well will nineteen from Virginia. You've given
Speaker 3: me a lot to think about. You actually have. I'm
Speaker 3: going to try to take this with me when I
Speaker 3: When I usually I try to leave all the stuff
Speaker 3: on the table, But I'm going to try to take
Speaker 3: this one with me.
Speaker 1: Well, you should write it down, see, don't forget because Lyle,
Speaker 1: you can do it, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh man, all right, I'll try.
Speaker 2: You can do it.
Speaker 1: Just write down a piece of fucking just spread down
Speaker 1: a sticky note like put it above your betters up
Speaker 1: and so you don't forget, man, because otherwise it's probably
Speaker 1: just in one ear at the other. You do so
Speaker 1: many phone calls.
Speaker 3: You know you can do this, man, Is this what
Speaker 3: you wanted? Is that they were like? Is this is
Speaker 3: what you want from your friends? Is that they come
Speaker 3: to you with their stuff?
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I want for my friends.
Speaker 4: But none of.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I got I'm not really serious about it either.
Speaker 3: But how does how does it feel?
Speaker 1: It feels nice? I just want somebody to listen to
Speaker 1: my face.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Here's my thing, though, is you're listen
Speaker 3: your rights And this is probably how people feel when
Speaker 3: I talk to them on the phone. Is that it's easy.
Speaker 3: It's me, They're all. This ship is easier said than done.
Speaker 1: It Yeah, it is. No, it's definitely not easy, but
Speaker 1: it's not all that hard, you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well tell me before we go. Let's give me
Speaker 3: one new experience that you're going to try out that
Speaker 3: you think will give you a greater perspective and be
Speaker 3: less hateful of people. And then if you do that,
Speaker 3: I'll eat one taco to nine instead of two.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I can talk about something I did yesterday,
Speaker 1: which was I did try I did try shroom yesterday
Speaker 1: with some friends, one of whom is overweight, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't say it changed my life, but
Speaker 1: it definitely made me. I'd say it up to my
Speaker 1: overall mood. It's been a couple of days now by
Speaker 1: like ten to fifteen percent, So maybe that will help
Speaker 1: me in the long run.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if doing mushrooms, because I.
Speaker 1: Know that's the whole new I know that's the whole
Speaker 1: new canal.
Speaker 3: I got you, all right, I guess I guess listen,
Speaker 3: all right, I guess if you're trying to hate fat
Speaker 3: people less, doing mushrooms with the fat guy counts all right,
Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'll tell you what. I'll give you
Speaker 3: that in terms of that as an experience that will
Speaker 3: help you get over your hatefulness. I'll give you that
Speaker 3: as an equivalent of me eating one taco instead of two.
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair trade.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can do that, Will.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 3: people of the computer before you go? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask, are you coming to DC
Speaker 1: in your tour next year or I guess this year?
Speaker 3: Fucking I think so. I know I'm coming to the
Speaker 3: East Coast. I know I'm going back to Philly. I
Speaker 3: know I'm going back to New York. So worst case scenario,
Speaker 3: if I don't come to DC, you can.
Speaker 1: Drive, well, I can go to Philly. Okay, Well, i'll
Speaker 1: see you there and i'll see if you remember me.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'll bring you up on stage. And
Speaker 3: if I look thinner, then you know it worked. And
Speaker 3: if I look fatter, then you know you can come
Speaker 3: up on stage and tell me to eat only one
Speaker 3: taco again.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lyle, I love the show.
Speaker 3: Thanks shotting me on man, appreciate it. Well, take care,
Speaker 3: all right, I don't know. Here's the thing. I've had
Speaker 3: this conversation with so many people just goes in circles.
Speaker 3: But all you fucking oolful, I'll figure myself out, you
Speaker 3: know eventually, maybe.
Speaker 2: I I.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've let it sling, I've let it slide by
Speaker 3: the waystside. Okay, tonight, one taco, maybe a taco and
Speaker 3: a half. Maybe we start with a taco and a half.
Speaker 3: See where that gets us? Hello? Hi, who is this?
Speaker 2: Oh? Hi?
Speaker 5: This is Lynette and Jacqueline.
Speaker 3: Hi, Lyle Hiland, Nette and Jacqueline. How are you guys doing.
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 5: How are you handsome?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good. I'm hanging out, I'm being a gecko.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to people in the computer. What are you
Speaker 3: guys up to?
Speaker 5: That's why we called?
Speaker 3: How can I How can I get you guys this evening?
Speaker 5: Listen?
Speaker 4: Listen?
Speaker 5: So you have two grown ass women with kids pushing
Speaker 5: forty and I'm the youngest child that's going to be
Speaker 5: thirty five in two weeks and I'm still getting yelled at.
Speaker 4: By my mother.
Speaker 3: So okay, help, who am I talking?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? I want to be able to tell a
Speaker 3: difference between you guys. Who who was just talking? Just now, Jacqueline, Jacqueline. Okay,
Speaker 3: so you're pushing forty and your mother is still a
Speaker 3: yelling at you.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm pushing thirty five and my mother's still yelling.
Speaker 5: But my older sister, who's pushing forty is not getting
Speaker 5: yelled at. Okay, she's the safe child.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Jacqueline is getting yelled at and Lynette is
Speaker 3: not getting yelled at. Exactly Okay, what is what are
Speaker 3: you getting yelled at for?
Speaker 5: Just everything? My my older sister can talk about anything.
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me the last thing. Tell me the last
Speaker 3: thing your mother yelled at you about.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to keep it. So, my older sister
Speaker 5: randomly decided to say that she was the only one
Speaker 5: that didn't do a recreational drug, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: well I'm the only one that didn't do a hallucinetic
Speaker 5: jug and she told me to keep it down.
Speaker 3: Your mother told you to keep it dead yell.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, why was the baby getting yelled at?
Speaker 3: Okay, Lynette, what's your take on this?
Speaker 5: Well, clearly, I'm the favorite child. So honestly, I call
Speaker 5: my mom every day and she does not call myr
Speaker 5: mom every day because she used to live ten minutes
Speaker 5: away from me, and she just moved three hours away
Speaker 5: from me. That's why I don't call her every day. Okay,
Speaker 5: but I lived sixteen hours away and I've called them
Speaker 5: every day for the last twenty years. Okay, clearly I
Speaker 5: am the favorite, but I'm the baby.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jacqueline, tell me, I mean, let's let's talk about
Speaker 3: this independent of your sister. What are the problems. What
Speaker 3: would you say are the problems in your relationship with
Speaker 3: your mom that you would like to see fixed.
Speaker 5: I really don't have any I just want to I
Speaker 5: want to stop getting yelled at. I think because it's
Speaker 5: I'm the baby, and I get away with a lot
Speaker 5: of stuff situation. But no, I'm not going to talk
Speaker 5: about this sleeping. My husband's like chiming in because he's mad.
Speaker 5: We're in twin bed because we're visiting for the holidays.
Speaker 5: It's a fool, but it's a full even worse. But no, Okay,
Speaker 5: have you ever got the baby?
Speaker 3: Uh? Huh?
Speaker 5: I no, I think because the baby and she may
Speaker 5: be more protective of me. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: to put in perspective, my sister had to wait until
Speaker 5: she was like twenty five to get her belly button peers,
Speaker 5: and I got mine when I was here, so I
Speaker 5: was eighteen. So why am I getting yelled at when
Speaker 5: I got away with so much more stuff? Now that
Speaker 5: I'm almost forty, you got away with so much more stuff,
Speaker 5: and me as the older person, they had to learn
Speaker 5: through me to for you to get away with stuff,
Speaker 5: And now they're letting me be very free, and now
Speaker 5: they're mad about the things that you're doing.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was leaving New York.
Speaker 5: We're not sitting on a white clause?
Speaker 3: Are you okay? Can you guys, can you guys, Can
Speaker 3: you guys do me a favorite? Can you guys do
Speaker 3: me a favor? And please not read the chat and
Speaker 3: just talk to me. It gets really distracting when you
Speaker 3: guys are reading the chat. Okay. So you clearly have
Speaker 3: the a problem with your mom yelling at you. Have
Speaker 3: you ever talked to her about this problem that you
Speaker 3: have with her yelling at you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: But no, but I tell her to do it all
Speaker 5: the time. And I always talk to my mom and
Speaker 5: tell my mom to talk to her about the problems.
Speaker 5: I swear I'm the middle person, so I hear it
Speaker 5: from my mom and then I hear it from my
Speaker 5: sister and I'm always telling them to talk about it
Speaker 5: and they never do.
Speaker 3: What am Are there fucking three of you guys?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay and Jacks okay, all right, I got confused for
Speaker 3: a second. Okay, all right, I'm gonna let me just
Speaker 3: talk straight to Jacqueline real quick. Okay, So have you
Speaker 3: or have you not had a conversation with your mom
Speaker 3: where you tell her that you're upset with her about
Speaker 3: the way that she has been treating you.
Speaker 5: I'll be honest and say no.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean, listen, you might benefit from doing that,
Speaker 3: right because your mom might not even have any idea
Speaker 3: that you're feeling this way, because you know, you can't
Speaker 3: expect people to be mind readers. So if you're feeling
Speaker 3: a certain way in this relationship you have with your mom,
Speaker 3: you know you should tell her.
Speaker 5: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Okay. You say that you sound like you have a
Speaker 3: reservation with having this conversation with your mom. What would
Speaker 3: that reservation be?
Speaker 5: I do, because we're both capacorns. What we're both capacorns.
Speaker 5: We're both stubborn.
Speaker 3: You and your mom are both stubborn. Yeah, Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: let me ask you this. Do you do you want
Speaker 3: and and there's no right or wrong answer to this question.
Speaker 3: Do you want to fix this issue?
Speaker 5: I do? And like, you know what, it's it's not
Speaker 5: a big deal when the family gets together because my
Speaker 5: sister and I live like staateth away, I'm in Florida
Speaker 5: and ju Virginia. But when we get together, we're like, hey,
Speaker 5: what's up? Because we realize that there's a problem.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you both realize there's a problem, and neither
Speaker 3: of you are making the steps to talk about the problem. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: talk about the problem. I don't know. Stubbornness, your stubbornness
Speaker 3: that you that you have self proclaimed for yourself. Does
Speaker 3: it does it really serve you in any way, shape
Speaker 3: or form life? Okay? Well, if if it doesn't a
Speaker 3: rich your life, then then then why why do you
Speaker 3: go hold on to this this idea of yourself as
Speaker 3: being stubborn?
Speaker 5: I just I just don't understand why I'm getting yelled at.
Speaker 5: I get it, I really do, I truly do.
Speaker 3: Okay, But Louise, okay, listen, if I if I could
Speaker 3: say a couple of things, Uh, if if you're looking
Speaker 3: upon yourself and this idea that you have of yourself
Speaker 3: as being stubborn because you're a Capricorn. And you you know,
Speaker 3: as as I've asked you just now whether or not
Speaker 3: that idea or that schema that you have of yourself
Speaker 3: from that character trait is serving you, and you said
Speaker 3: it's not. I think you might benefit from from dropping
Speaker 3: that character trait to the best of your ability. And uh,
Speaker 3: if you truly do want to fix this issue that
Speaker 3: you have with your mom, uh, you know, go go
Speaker 3: talk to her about it, because it could be a
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. Right, because you're you're sitting here and you're like,
Speaker 3: I don't I want to know why I'm always getting
Speaker 3: yelled at, and you're You're never going to know. You
Speaker 3: only have your assumptions, which you know, assumptions.
Speaker 5: You don't want to cause any more drama?
Speaker 3: Why why why would that cause it any drama?
Speaker 5: But you're right, You're totally right.
Speaker 3: What well, well, hold on, why do you think it
Speaker 3: would cause drama to talk to your mom?
Speaker 5: Because I'm putting I'm putting her on the spot, and
Speaker 5: that's my mama. Nobody wants to put their mom on
Speaker 5: the spot, am I right?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me let me bring this up to you.
Speaker 3: If you were to who talk to your mom in
Speaker 3: such a way where you're not, you know, telling her
Speaker 3: how she is, but you're telling her how you feel.
Speaker 3: You're using this is something we learned in you know,
Speaker 3: as children, the eye statements genius thing applicable highly in
Speaker 3: adulthood as well, is the I statement. So if you
Speaker 3: were to talk to your mother and go, you know,
Speaker 3: I feel belittled when you yell at me for these things,
Speaker 3: and you really come at it from a point of
Speaker 3: view of you know, you're telling her how you feel,
Speaker 3: unless of a less of you know, this idea you
Speaker 3: might have in your mind of the only way to
Speaker 3: do it being a hostile attack on her, then it
Speaker 3: won't cause any drama, unless if your mom is the
Speaker 3: kind of person that will interpret you expressing your feelings
Speaker 3: to her as an attack on her, in which case
Speaker 3: there is very little you can do about that.
Speaker 4: But exactly, yes, exactly, and.
Speaker 3: Listen this very little and listen, there's very little you
Speaker 3: can do about that if your mom is the kind
Speaker 3: of person to interpret you sharing your feelings as an
Speaker 3: attack on her. But in terms of of examining what
Speaker 3: in this situation is within your control. It's within your
Speaker 3: control to try and not assume off the bat that
Speaker 3: your mother will take it as an attack, because that
Speaker 3: assumption won't serve you, you know, go ahead and try
Speaker 3: at the very least. Is that fair? Is e anything
Speaker 3: I'm saying fair to you?
Speaker 5: Yo? One hundred percent? I completely agree And no, you're
Speaker 5: completely right. Like if if we were to put her
Speaker 5: on the spot, and that was my older sister saying, yes,
Speaker 5: that's exactly how she is. No one wants to be
Speaker 5: pro on the spot. No one wants to be like
Speaker 5: proved wrong.
Speaker 3: Does not this But this is not a right or
Speaker 3: wrong thing, And this is not a putting on the
Speaker 3: spot thing. This is like you know, I think if
Speaker 3: if you want to do your if you if you
Speaker 3: don't want her to frame it as that, then you
Speaker 3: have to not frame it as that. Right. I don't
Speaker 3: think you guys are preemptively framing you expressing your feelings
Speaker 3: to your mom as some kind of like proving her
Speaker 3: wrong or putting her on the spot. That's not what
Speaker 3: we're doing. You know, You're just expressing yourself. Okay, You're
Speaker 3: not putting anyone on the spot. You're not coming at people. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is not a hostile attack. This is not a war,
Speaker 3: This is not a you versus your mom. This is
Speaker 3: just you expressing yourself to your mom, because she might
Speaker 3: not know how she's making you feel when she's yelling
Speaker 3: at you. So if you if you don't want her
Speaker 3: to frame it as an attack, you need to make
Speaker 3: sure that you are not thinking of it as an attack.
Speaker 5: Either being defensive. Okay, I no, I agree with that,
Speaker 5: because I can come into a situation very defensive.
Speaker 3: Yes, And look, I understand you know, you know your mom,
Speaker 3: and I don't know your mom, so I understand why
Speaker 3: you have this idea of how she might react to uh,
Speaker 3: you know you, uh, you know, expressing yourself to her,
Speaker 3: and but you never know until you try.
Speaker 5: So Yeah. Also, her birthday tomorrow, so happy birthday, mom,
Speaker 5: Happy birthday.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday Mom. You should you should call her on
Speaker 3: her birthday.
Speaker 5: No, she's with us, she's obscurius, which is with you
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 3: Could you could you hear this conversation?
Speaker 5: No, she's no, no, no, no, she's sleeping upstairs. We're
Speaker 5: we're all together on a family vacation. But she's already
Speaker 5: a sleep upstairs.
Speaker 3: Are you guys having fun?
Speaker 5: So this is the highlight of the family vacation.
Speaker 3: This right now, you guys talking to me is the
Speaker 3: highlight of the family vacation. No, where are you guys
Speaker 3: on vacation at?
Speaker 5: So I'm from Florida and I'm visiting my sister in
Speaker 5: Virginia and my parents are from Florida as well. So
Speaker 5: we all did a road trip.
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys are in Virginia. Okay, this might be
Speaker 3: the highlight of your vacation. Actually, I can't imagine what
Speaker 3: it is you guys are doing and having fun in Virginia.
Speaker 5: Hey, we went to Bush Gardens?
Speaker 3: All right, that's pretty good. Did you ride the Manta.
Speaker 5: I didn't cook close for the season, unlike Florida, where
Speaker 5: it's opened year round where I'm from.
Speaker 3: Okay, So are you going to talk to your mom?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but not on.
Speaker 5: Her birthday tomorrow. But no, Like absolutely, I completely agree
Speaker 5: with you. Like I paid hundreds of dollars for counseling,
Speaker 5: and I've got better advice from you, Lyle.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that. And you know what, you
Speaker 3: can have this one for free.
Speaker 5: I know you're the best and I'm so glad you.
Speaker 3: Fixed your glove, Lynette and Jacqueline. Is there anything else
Speaker 3: you guys want to say to me or to the people,
Speaker 3: as the computer before.
Speaker 5: We go, just happy New Year, and just absorb every
Speaker 5: amount of love and happiness and light because time flies,
Speaker 5: How kind?
Speaker 3: How kind? Now you're right, Time does fly, and before
Speaker 3: you know it, you and everyone you love will be
Speaker 3: extremely dead dead.
Speaker 5: Love's morbid, but you're right. Hey, you guys, have a
Speaker 5: good night, thanks, Lyle, Mary.
Speaker 3: Christens, Merry Christmas. I cut them off right when this
Speaker 3: Onry Christmas. All right, here's my astrology thing, and I
Speaker 3: don't want to I'm not I don't yuck people's gems,
Speaker 3: all right. I don't judge people about their things, but
Speaker 3: I guess what I don't. One thing I just don't
Speaker 3: like about astrology is this idea that you guys know
Speaker 3: what a schema is. We've talked about this shit on
Speaker 3: here before. I'm not a real therapist, by the way,
Speaker 3: so don't I don't want. But I do like that
Speaker 3: word schema. It's a therapist, the word. But one thing
Speaker 3: I don't like about astrology is that people like who
Speaker 3: really like cling to it. They form schemas about themselves
Speaker 3: based upon their sign that I find dangerous. Again, I
Speaker 3: don't want to yuck people's yum. If you're in astrology.
Speaker 3: I'm not here to be like, oh, it's fake and shitty.
Speaker 3: I have everything's fuck you know that's not I don't
Speaker 3: care about any of that. I just care about again,
Speaker 3: this idea that people are like, well, I'm a Capricorn
Speaker 3: and it says here on this horoscope or it says
Speaker 3: here in this book or whatever that Capricorns are stubborn,
Speaker 3: and then it becomes some kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.
Speaker 3: And I find that dangerous. But you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Live your life, do whatever you gotta do. I hope
Speaker 3: that she has the conversation that she needs to have,
Speaker 3: and I hope that they find other fun things to
Speaker 3: do in the in the great state of Virginia. Hi, Hello, Gek, Yeah,
Speaker 3: who is this?
Speaker 4: This is Andy? How are you doing, Gek?
Speaker 3: I'm doing all right, Andy? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Not a bunch? Have you ever heard about the chicken
Speaker 4: fucker from Possham Hallwinds?
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, just to.
Speaker 4: Set the stage, my whole outside of the family originates
Speaker 4: from this place in Kentucky that was called Posham Hollers.
Speaker 4: My grandma had a cousin whose chickens kept dying. Well,
Speaker 4: their neighbors chickens kept dying and they couldn't figure out why. Well,
Speaker 4: one day the neighbor up the hill saw my grandma's
Speaker 4: cousin fucking the chickens. And the kicker to this story
Speaker 4: is the way the family decided to handle this was
Speaker 4: to send my grandma over there so he would fuck
Speaker 4: her and not the chickens.
Speaker 1: She didn't do it, but.
Speaker 3: Was so how did this eventually resolve? Did he eventually
Speaker 3: stop fucking the chickens?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 4: I have never asked them that, but I'm assuming since
Speaker 4: everyone found them out. I wonder how they picked her though,
Speaker 4: Like did they have all the cousins do their best
Speaker 4: chicken dance or like what? I don't know what transpired.
Speaker 3: Now, your grandma was also your grandfather's cousin.
Speaker 4: No, no, it was my grandma and her cousin was
Speaker 4: the one to fuck the chickens.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh, okay, so your grandmother's cousin was fucking chickens.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Correct, and uh, your grandma's family sent her over so
Speaker 3: that her cousin, so that the guy could fuck his
Speaker 3: cousin instead of his chickens. Precisely interesting. Now I'm very
Speaker 3: fascinated because why did they feel as though fucking the
Speaker 3: fucking your cousin is worse, is not as bad as
Speaker 3: fucking chicken?
Speaker 4: Right right? I don't know if it was a whole Well,
Speaker 4: if we keep if we at least keep them away
Speaker 4: from bestiality, but I mean, incest is no better.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I'm wondering that, right, I'm like, is
Speaker 3: it better or worse to fuck a chicken than your cousin?
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, in a would you rather scenario, like
Speaker 3: if there's some kind of objective totem pole of you know,
Speaker 3: sexual depravity, I don't know which one is worse. I
Speaker 3: get all right, you know what I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 3: I'm in a form an opinion on this. I think
Speaker 3: fucking a chicken is worse than fucking your cousin, because people,
Speaker 3: because there's a there's a history. I don't think it
Speaker 3: has ever been societally accepted to fuck chickens, but at
Speaker 3: some point in our timeline, it was totally societally acceptable
Speaker 3: to fuck your cousin. We don't go by those standards, right,
Speaker 3: it still is in some way, all right, So all right,
Speaker 3: so I see what they were doing. They were like,
Speaker 3: this guy is depraved. Let's you know, we're not going
Speaker 3: to get him to non you know, to fuck non
Speaker 3: cousin human people, you know, immediately, but we wean him
Speaker 3: off by starting him with his cousin. I don't think
Speaker 3: that that was I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this. I don't think that that was
Speaker 3: necessarily a good strategy in practice, but I understand the
Speaker 3: intention behind it.
Speaker 4: Right, It's like they might have had good intentions, but
Speaker 4: the end result is still not very good.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad. Tell your grandmother. Is your grandmother still alive?
Speaker 4: She is? She is like the most important person in
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 3: Tell your grandmother that good for her for not fucking
Speaker 3: her cousin, because she shouldn't fuck she why, you know,
Speaker 3: just because they had this plan to get you know, well,
Speaker 3: the plan doesn't work because now they bring horror into
Speaker 3: the private because now both of them are sucking their cousin.
Speaker 3: So again, I guess so again, I'm not gonna say
Speaker 3: it's a good plan or that it was even good intentions.
Speaker 3: I just I understand what they were going for and
Speaker 3: I disagree with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just bad all around.
Speaker 3: What's your grandmother doing? Is she around? Can we talk
Speaker 3: to her?
Speaker 4: Oh? No, she's not. I live like an hour away
Speaker 4: from her. Okay, you'll probably kill me if you're telling
Speaker 4: this story on the internet.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, then we won't tell anyone that you're
Speaker 3: telling us. This will listen, Andy, Is there anything else
Speaker 3: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 3: before we go?
Speaker 4: If you're fucking chickens, make sure your neighbors can't see.
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 4: Don't fuck chickens, and don't fuck your cousins.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know what? Two good sentiments to end on.
Speaker 3: Have a good night, lyle okay, take care In.
Speaker 6: The repeat Cat goes on the line taking your phone.
Speaker 2: Calls every night.
Speaker 3: Never beat Cant goes doing to ride. He's teaching you
Speaker 3: how to live your life, but he's not really an expert.