WEBVTT - "I RUINED SOMEONE'S LIFE" 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.320 Hello, Hi, Lyle. 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:03.520 I'm so excited to be on the phone video. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.680 Oh amazing, what's your What's what's up? 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.840 So, like, I'm kind of dealing with something right now. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.720 I kind of shot on somebody way too hard when 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:18.640 I was a kid, and I'm afraid I like wouined 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:20.160 their life. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.320 Ah okay, what did you? What did you in? What 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:24.800 way did you ship on this person? 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:27.080 So? 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.440 I had this friend in my middle school and her 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.199 parents were super strict and she was grounded. So she 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.720 asked me to check for my Space. So I logged 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.760 on and I was going through it, and I found 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.400 an email between her and some guys in her class, 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:50.800 and so I am talking really fast, but it was 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.240 talking about like a threesome they had. And back in 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.840 like my Space days, you could copy something and paste 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:00.880 it on a board for like every everybody to see. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.320 So I copied that whole conversation and like tasted it, 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.399 and like everybody in our school, her youth pastor everybody 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:14.920 knew that she had like train rain on her and 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.440 like her mom like sent her away. And my mom 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.480 saw her years later at like Taco Bell, and she 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:21.840 was like, your daughter ruined my life. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:29.000 She your mom saw her mom years later at Taco Bell. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.039 No, my mom saw her. She was like working and 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.680 she noticed my mom and was like, hey, who are 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.360 you so and so his mom and my mom was 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.560 like yeah, and she was like, your daughter ruined my life. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.160 How many years later was that? 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:45.000 Oh? 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.959 Man? It was like ten years later? 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.800 Really yeah? 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.880 And like I told my mom and she was like, well, 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.480 you didn't make her fuck those dudes. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:00.200 So how old were you guys when this was happening. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.480 We were unfortunately young, like probably eleven, twelve, eleven? 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.960 Whoa, you guys were eleven? 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:11.400 Yeah? 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.760 No, this like and the other guys were like really 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.839 young too, Like this was way too young for any 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:18.720 of this to be happening. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:30.200 Okay, so uh you uh all right. So the story 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:37.120 is your your friend was grounded and she let you 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.400 log into her MySpace page. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.640 Yeah, because she used to change like her background and 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.519 song all the time, so I was strictly supposed to 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.440 do that. But she had said something about like my 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.080 Lisa Frank folder was lame or something like that and 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.639 kissed me off. And that's when I found that message, 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.000 and I was like, ha, got her. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.600 Okay, So I was going to ask what your your 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.400 motive was in posting this message publicly. It was because 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.040 she insulted your Lisa Frankfoelder. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.280 It was something like that, like I don't remember exactly, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.600 but it was nothing to like be what I did, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:13.600 Like I don't think. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:14.160 She deserved that. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:19.000 And so this DM of her, So what the DM 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.280 was like her saying that she had a threesome with 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.800 two other like guys. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.000 Yeah, like what they were gonna do? 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.320 It's the next shit and dig? 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.720 Was this all true or were they just kind of 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:36.480 screwing around? 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.280 No? It was unfortunately true. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:47.800 Okay, And now when your friends realized that you had 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.680 posted this message, how did she react? 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.920 Oh, she was pissed, like so her mom found out 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.040 and took like all of her ship out of her room. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.640 Her mom was nuts, like she took out like her 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:06.400 hair brush, her mirror, like everything, like she wasn't allowed 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.280 to brush her hair before she came to school. It 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.600 was like it was batshit crazy. But she ran away 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.119 and she kind of showed up at my house and 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.880 UH was like crying and I was like, oh, yeah, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.720 I did that, and she was like are you serious? 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.320 And I was kind of like, yeah, I need better 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.320 leave before my mom gets home and then her mom 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:24.880 came and got her. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.839 Uh was that the last time you saw her? 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.440 It was, well, I saw her a couple of times 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:39.239 at school, but she kind of hit out, But after 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.400 that I didn't see her again. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.960 So she what a full decade later, at the age 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:53.000 of twenty one, ten years later, told your mom that 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.240 you ruined her life. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.320 Yeah, because I guess when she got sent off, she 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.760 gotten more trouble, and I guess it was my fault 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.520 she got turned off. But like, I didn't, you know, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.680 make the events happen. I was just kind of being 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:08.200 a bit of a. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:14.680 Bitch, all right, have you since Well, okay, let me 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:19.640 ask you this, what do you believe the fallout was 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.640 on her end after you posted those those messages in 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.839 terms of how uh you know it affected her when 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.279 she went to school and whatnot. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.000 So like, I guess I kind of feel like she 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.320 just blamed me because I didn't make her do that 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.080 shit and I didn't make her keep doing that shit. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:41.840 But at the same time, I kind of looked back 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.640 at it and I'm like, man, that was really fucked 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.520 up and harsh. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:52.599 Okay, did anything ever happen to the guy? Like the 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.200 the other kid that that she was doing that with. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:01.159 No like they just got like high sighs, and no 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:06.479 teachers or parents gave a shit. Okay, Like, I'm from 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.440 a really small town, so this is kind of like 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.000 a normal thing, unfortunately. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:20.320 Okay, so you guys have not seen each other since 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.720 you haven't reached out over by the way, says here 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:33.880 that you're thirty now. Yeah, so she's also probably thirty. Yes, Okay, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:40.160 so a decade ago your mom ran into her at 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.640 a taco bell and she said that you ruined her 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:50.120 life via something a decade even earlier than that, right, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.840 and you're calling me to talk about this. Why is 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.640 this rattling in your mind? 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.160 I guess because like I've been thinking recently of like, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.400 you know, how to be a better person and like 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.520 being more conscious of things that I've done, and that 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.280 one just keeps radomly around and it makes me feel 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.720 like super guilty. And I thought about reaching out to her, 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.760 But at the same time, it's been so long now, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:27.480 you know, it's like, surely she can't still be mad, right, Well, I. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.840 Guess she was mad. I I don't really see what 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.320 would happen in the second decade that wasn't resolved in 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:40.400 the first decade. Okay, do you feel like it would 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.120 be helpful to reach out or would it just be weird? 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.600 I feel like it would be weird. Like I don't 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.720 even live around there anymore. Like I have no clue 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.880 what she's doing. I know she's got some kids now, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.720 so I kind of feel like, all right, we're like 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.080 full ass grown now, Like there's no way she's still 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.760 pissed about it, right, But I mean there's things that 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.640 I have to go to, you know, a therapist and 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.800 talk to about my childhood. So I'm like, maybe she 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:06.920 is still pissed about it. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.760 Interesting. Okay, So you this is interesting. So because you 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.880 know that there are still some things from that era 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.200 that you're working through, you can imagine that perhaps she's 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.440 still working through things from that era as well. I mean, 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.440 especially considering she was probably you know, has some some 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.920 fucking some some some shit from that era to workouts. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:34.280 Right, Okay, I mean like I don't agree what she 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.760 was doing with but we're all human. We're all suck up, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:41.240 especially at that age. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.840 So this is rattling in your brain because you're kind 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.640 of wondering how you can be a better person. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.199 Yeah, Like, so I had like a pop in my lung, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:55.599 Like I had a cyst on my lung and it 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.160 popped and it caused me to have like an inflated lung. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.680 And ever since that happen, it's kind of like got me, Like, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.199 you know, you can't control everything. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.079 You can just die. 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.080 And I guess it's one of the things that I 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.800 feel like it might be stupid. Maybe I don't know, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.199 but I feel like it would It'd be something I 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.199 would think about on my deskbed, like it would be 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.320 one of the things in the list of regrets or 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:18.199 I wish I would have. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:25.120 Okay, well, I mean that's quite a grand epiphany there. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.680 What now is between you and reaching out? 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:32.960 Because I just don't know if it would be weird? 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.800 And I also kind of feel like she would just 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.280 tell me to fuck off, and I wouldn't be mad 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.760 at her for it. I would be like, all right, So, 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.520 I mean, I guess maybe I should just reach out. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.079 Okay, but let me let's go back to your grand epiphany, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:52.600 your grand epiphany that you are fallible as a human being, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.640 You're a mortal, You're you're mortal. Uh, you want to 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.880 do everything that you're considering doing before you die. Okay, 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.600 that epiphany and that's your epiphany. Is that accurate? 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:06.120 I mean yeah, i'd say so. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:11.280 All right. Nowhere in that epiphany is there any concern 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:15.880 of any sort of outcome of your actions? Do you understand? 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:18.160 Yeah? 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.400 Yeah, because it's just shit I want to do before. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.560 I die or not. It's not ship that, it's not 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.440 it's it's conversations. Your your feeling is that you need 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.560 to have. It's chances. Your feeling is that you need 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.760 to take. It's not outcomes that you need from those things. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.400 And the fears that you're having of chasing those of 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.920 taking those actions, they're coming from a fear of the outcome. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.559 But the outcome is not important. It's not even it's 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.920 just not relevant. So if what you want to do 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:55.720 is have the conversation and go have the conversation and 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.560 don't worry about the outcome because the outcome is not 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.400 relevant in terms of you take action on your epiphany. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:03.880 Does that make sense? 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:06.600 That does make sense. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.800 That fits in a lot of aspects of my life, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.280 and I think I'm going to reach out. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:19.520 Okay, good, What are you working on in therapy from 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:20.079 that age? 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.120 Oh? Man? Like I kind of had like a so 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.880 it's kind of like a whole thing. But in people 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.640 in the chat are probably gonna think I'm lying, but 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.680 unfortunately I'm not. But my parents were carnies. I'm not 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.080 even a citty. Like they had a concession stand and 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.000 we lived in a small town so when they were 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.240 on their off season, when they weren't traveling, we lived 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.400 in this town and it's a small town in Oklahoma, 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:48.640 and just people gave my family shit all the time. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.400 And like we lived in a trailer because you know, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.480 they travel during the summer, So I caught a lot 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.160 of shit and it just sucked and it took me 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.400 a really long time to, I guess kind of get 0:11:59.440 --> 0:11:59.839 over it. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.520 What were people giving you shit about? 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:06.080 Oh that? 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.480 Like we were carnival trash and trailer trash, and like 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.280 my parents made pretty good money, like they truly did, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.120 but people were just assholes. They just didn't like outsiders 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.599 and we just stuck out. Like my dad bought a 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.719 piece of land and he put our trailer on it 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.760 and it was like by the school and people would 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:27.600 just like come and park on his land just like 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:28.240 piss them off. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.400 Like it was just bad. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:30.480 It was just a bad situation. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:30.800 True. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:31.959 They don't even live there anymore. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.960 Do you feel like any part of you like posted 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:42.080 that thing on MySpace as a retaliation from that? 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.679 Oh, I definitely feel like I took a lot of 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.800 like pain and anger that I had from other things 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:49.839 and pointed it toward her. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:55.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That could be something for you 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.040 guys to talk about. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.280 That's definitely something I'll bring up at my next. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.440 Actually, there's the anything else you want to say to 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:05.920 the people of the computer before we go. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.440 I appreciate you guys' time. While I'm a fan, always 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.280 will be, and I hope everybody has a great night. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.040 Thank you, Ashley, have a good night. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:17.760 Thanks nis. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:27.080 Man. Kids are crazy. It's very It's you know, it's 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.520 funny to me that like a scandal like that could 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:34.200 be happening in like two thousand and three where there 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.600 was just my Space. I mean, imagine the crazy shit 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:46.480 going on today with all the different social platforms. It's 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.560 that's the thing that scares me about TikTok, I'll say, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:55.800 is that, like, you know, something embarrassing going viral on 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.720 on on Facebook or MySpace, like within that community. Like 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.000 when I was in middle school, there would be dramas 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.920 and embarrassing things happening, like on Facebook groups and whatnot, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:13.319 and at the very least, whatever the gossip was or 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.959 the embarrassing thing, like you know, like that MySpace DM 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.280 that she was talking about, it would be limited to 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:28.400 that community. But TikTok fucks it up because somebody could 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.920 post that DM on TikTok and now all of a sudden, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.240 you're not just you know, exposed to the people in 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:41.640 your high school. It's like millions of strangers that are 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:46.200 seeing your embarrassing stuff. It's like, you know, times a 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.840 hundred what it was if you had something, you know, 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:54.240 fucked up happening on MySpace. So, you know, just another 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:59.800 reason we're fucked Nah, I'm not. I'm not a doomer 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.920 of because I think we'll be okay. Probably maybe if 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.520 it scares you that much, go outside and look at 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:18.240 some grass, you'll be okay. Hello, Hi, Lyle, Hi, who's this? 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:18.840 This is Will? 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:20.280 Why are you laughing? 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:25.360 I uh, I'm laughing because I actually just took a 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.080 ship and I was scared that you were going to 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.080 pick up while I was doing that. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.320 Okay, I don't know why that would make you laugh. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.240 But that's why I'm not used. So I don't know 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.160 how your brain works. And it's it's okay, we can 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.760 we can move past this. What's going on? Will? 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.680 I wanted to talk to you about my kind of 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.720 hatred for fat people, which is kind of been an 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.160 issue in my life for a little while. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:56.240 All Right, why do you hate fat people? 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.440 I don't really know. I mean, if I had to 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.200 take a well, I guess it's I do kind of know. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.920 But I used to be overweight when I was a kid, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.800 and like overweight. You know, there's some people who are 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.560 overweight and are still like athletic, play sports or whatever. 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.200 But I was overweight and like very weak and got 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.680 out of breath all the time, and I lost the weight. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:19.960 You know. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.680 Now I'm in the exercise fitness and you know, I 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.600 also spent a lot of time. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.200 Back in the day on places like four Chan, you know, 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:35.120 stuff that's pretty you know, mean towards people in general, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.840 a lot of bullying, and. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.640 It's just something that I can't really get rid of, 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:41.880 you know. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.880 Okay, So when you used to spend a lot of time, 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.880 you know, bullying people on message boards, you. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:56.400 Say, pretty much mostly lurking you know now, you know, 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.600 not like rating people, not specifically targeting people, but just 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.000 being around that community a lot. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:07.280 You know, Okay, And are you are you still active 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.639 doing that stuff? It's you know, if you are, you know, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.080 you don't have to. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.920 You know, I recently, I recently quit it. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.760 Okay. What made you make the decision to quit? 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.480 Just a lot of introducing a lot of negativity into 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.920 my life. You know, I'm trying to be a more 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.200 positive person overall, Like you know, just my first instinct 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.720 is to judge people based on their appearance basically, and 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.560 you know, whether it's you know, not just their weight. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.280 But I just it's a very I'm a very judgmental 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.399 person at this point. And I don't know if I 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.920 was like that before. You know, I guess spend a 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.920 lot of time. You know, I'm not saying it's totally 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.280 like the fault of the internet, but that's myself, you know, 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:50.400 that's myself to blame too. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:57.800 Sure, So what was the the catalyst of this change? 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.480 What what made you realize that you want to less 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:01.560 negativity in your life? 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:04.320 Well? 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.159 I tried to quit before, but you know, it's like 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.959 this keeps pulling me back in I can't say there 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:15.880 was like a specific event, but I realized, like I was, 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.600 I was, you know, I'm Christian. I was in church 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.159 one time, you know, in a break and I realized 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.879 I was looking at my phone like looking at like 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.120 like making fun of fat people in church, Like, what 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:28.520 the what am I doing? What the fuck am I 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.600 doing right now? You know I'm supposed to be. Yeah, 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.159 that's not what I'm supposed to be about. You know, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.360 that's not how I'm supposed to be living my life. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.399 You know, whether you're religious or not. You know, the 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.840 going about going around hating people is not like a 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.520 way to happily live your life and putting negativity on others. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.680 It just kind of puts it on yourself too, like 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:50.920 you feel it also, you. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:55.320 Know of course of course, so when you were a child, 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.920 you were you were a little overweight as well. Yeah, 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.240 h so what I mean, what was it? Were you 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.760 were you projecting? In some sense? 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.719 I think so? And also my dad is pretty overweight, 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.720 and I guess I am not having the best relationship 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.760 with him nowadays. It's like it's not it's not terrible, 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.600 but it just we don't really like get along like 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.960 we used to. And I guess I just want, like 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.240 I don't have the heart to tell him, like, you know, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.879 to clean up his diet, you know, to watch you know, 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.520 to exercise stuff like that. So it just that's something 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.280 that also bothers me a lot about him. So maybe 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:33.520 that's a part of the you know. 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.480 Do you do you hate me? 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.840 I don't hate you, Lyle, I don't. I don't like people. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.960 I know, I'm I'm friends with plenty of fat people. Okay, 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.240 and plus, Lyle, you're just chubby, but. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.639 Okay, chumping. This is a form of chumping. This is 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:54.879 a form of fatness. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:56.080 It is. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.760 Yeah, but you know, I'm not I'm not perfect myself. 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.360 You know, I definitely gained about five pounds this holiday break. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.200 Got to lose it. But like, I'm friends with plenty 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.680 of people, overweight people and even like obese people. I 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.480 have a couple of beest people, and I really don't care, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.240 you know, like I want them, I want to help them, 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.399 Like I kind of wish they would come to me 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.879 and be like, you know, I want to change, but 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.639 it's not something I really care about when they're my friends, 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.920 you know. But it's like first impressions of people, like 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.240 I see someone on the street and I'm like, I 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:30.720 just don't like you, Like I don't want to. I 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.879 wouldn't interact with you, like I just but if I 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.840 got to know them, I bet I would Like. Maybe 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.639 I can't say I would be friends with them, because 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.679 you can't be friends with everyone, but be like, oh, 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.560 they're a good person. I'm sure they have interests, and 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.400 you know, I don't. I'm not really judgeful about people's 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.080 character all that much, mostly just I guess appearance wise. 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:52.520 You know. 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.440 Well, I mean, listen, from everything that you're saying to 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.960 me right now, it sounds as though you are coming 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:03.200 to all the realizations that that would be natural for 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.919 one to come to, uh you know, is they're kind 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.200 of trying to change their personality, right. You know, You've 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.400 made this decision that you want to have less negativity 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.000 in your life, and it sounds as that you're sticking 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.960 to that decision, and you made the decision to quit 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:20.520 going on these message boards. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:29.720 Yeah, yep, Okay, do. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.240 You hate any other stuff or just fat people? 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:37.879 I mean, I can't lie, you know, I do have 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:43.880 some other prejudices in me, okay, but I guess that's 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.359 the most prevalent one, you know, okay. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:47.679 Yea, And. 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:57.119 How as you're moving forward are you are you hoping 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:58.600 to work on your prejudices? 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.200 You know, I guess it sounds cheesy, but you know, 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:10.520 just I guess do experiences, you know, not just with 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:15.680 you says sad people or whatever, but just experience new things, 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.400 like I guess I since I started college, I don't 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:23.600 really hang out with many people besides my girlfriend, And 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:26.959 you know, I think I just need to experience more 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.639 things with more different types of people versus hanging out 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.880 with the same people I have for years. At this point, 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.359 you know, make new friends, just get some different points 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.119 of view, you know, even if I don't agree with 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.000 all of them, because I don't, because I'm pretty set 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.200 my ways a lot about a lot of things. But 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.520 at least I'm the kind of person that at least 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.320 I think I can just have a discussion with people 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.200 about different viewpoints. Like you know, Le, I don't necessarily 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.640 agree with all your opinions, but I do love your show, 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.199 and you know, it opens me up to two more 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.760 things that I wouldn't really think about before. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:04.000 So well, what opinions have I expressed that you disagree with? 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:10.119 Nothing in particular. I think just sometimes your mindset is 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.159 kind of like and none of this like matters, you know, 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.960 but it's it's nothing like huge, It's just you know, 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:20.520 well we can't agree. 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.560 On everything, but I know I'm open to I'm open 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:26.080 to discussing. I'm always open to discussing. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:26.639 Uh. 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.080 Like, there was that fucking real therapist guy that I 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:35.720 talked to, Yeah, like, what what did you what about 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:39.520 the mindset of nothing matters? What's your counterpoint to that? 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.399 Well, I mean I can't say, you know, you definitely 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.840 do preach positivity on the people, but you know, that's 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.280 that's my main thing, is that I guess I'm trying 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.680 to just be better at making a positive impact on 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.680 people I meet. You know, even if say I don't 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.240 really you know, I have a lot of experiences of 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:05.080 people being very rude to me because I'm the sports 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.200 officially and I do baseball, and people are just kind 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:13.479 of horrible to to umpires and officials. But I at 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:17.679 least try my best to you know, be civil within 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:21.400 you know, pleasurable. That's not the word pleasant with everybody 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.120 that I mean, you know, so at the very least, 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.600 even if I don't like them. You know, I don't 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.159 want to come off as a rude because it's just 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.440 adding more negativity into the world, which I have enough of, 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:34.399 which I need to get rid of. 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.320 You know, well, listen, these are all good things. That 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:42.479 says what you says that you're in nineteen Yeah, okay, Well, 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.680 well listen, I'm going to say this good that you're 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:50.560 I I fully and utterly believe in the uh, you know, 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:55.840 capacity to grow and space is needed. And I think 0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:01.000 you know the fact that you're coming at this uh 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.879 really self aware of of, you know, the things in 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.040 your life and the thoughts that are that are holding 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:11.480 you back from a deeper experience as a human being 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:17.119 on this earth. It's good to have that awareness, especially uh, 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:18.960 you know, so young, because it takes a lot of 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.879 people a lot of time too to wake up from that. 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.480 Some people never do, you know, they become they keep that, 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:32.680 they keep their prejudices with them held tightly and you know, 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:38.600 into into their you know, to their fucking deaths some people. 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.800 So this is good, man. It's good that you're going 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.000 to try to put yourself out there in situations where 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.879 you can talk to people that maybe you wouldn't normally 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:56.320 normally talk to mhmm, gee, how recent of a thing 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:56.639 is this? 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.119 Probably, I guess in the last couple of years. I 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.359 lost weight about two and a half years ago, and 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.280 since then it's been like, you know, I guess I 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:15.000 started to develop the mindset of like, like, you know, 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:16.680 I can do it, why can't you do it? But 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:21.639 you know that's not necessarily untrue, but it's like not 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.119 that important. You know, if other people want to look 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.280 like that, I can't stop them. There's plenty that you 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.280 can't stop other people from doing unhealthy things, like you know, 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.040 smoking or drugs whatever. 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.520 So it's true, it is, it is, Uh, it is 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.280 ultimately I mean, that's the thing about a lot of 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.880 these things, is it's ultimately irrelevant to your own life. 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.399 I don't know, yeah, man, I think of it that 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.560 stuff too. I've had things. I've had that thought sometimes 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.320 with certain things of like, well, if I can do this, 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.280 how come these people can't do it? And you know, 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:56.960 I don't know. We all have our own fucking things, man, 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.080 We all have our own struggles and our own levels 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.800 of energy and whatever other factors as to why we 0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.399 don't operate the same exact way as the next person. 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:09.000 Why are you laughing? 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:09.960 Yeah? 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:10.760 Reprove me again? 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.320 Well, wow, is it inappropriate to ask, like, you know, 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.560 for just for your perspective, like what's your relationship. 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.680 With with your weight and like health stuff? Like what 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.680 do you ensure I feel about that? Sure? Sure, sure 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.120 we can talk about that. Let's see. 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:27.679 Uh. 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.480 You know, I think I need to grow up a 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.320 little bit. I really do. I feel like I need 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:32.680 to grow up a little bit, and I think I 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.879 need to eat better and exercise more and all that stuff. 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.320 It's you know, I'm in a cycle right now. If 0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:39.800 you want to be my therapy, get go, I'm in 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.000 a cycle of I've. 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.720 Always wanted to be your therapy. Get go, dude. 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.119 Sure, let's why not, let's do it. I have I 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.720 don't have. I don't feel like I have enough time 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:53.440 and energy to eat correctly an exercise. But I don't 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.920 have enough time and energy because I don't need healthy 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:58.600 and exercise. I feel like if I eat healthy and exercise, 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.639 I'd have more energy exactly. So it's I'm stuck in 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:03.520 that vicious cycle. 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:09.320 Yeah, well, what can I tell you? Like, I think 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.200 eating and eating and working out are two different things. 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.280 You know, if your goal is weight loss, like you 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:17.960 don't have to step foot in such jet you. 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.639 Know, Oh, I know, I know, But let me tell 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.399 you what, Well, I got to tell you something. I 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.359 got to tell you something. Will it's this is a shame, 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:31.560 But like the way I feel when I am sitting 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.840 in the parking lot of a Jack in the Box 0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.120 at one o'clock in the morning and I have my 0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:42.640 Cluck Chicken sandwich and my two tacos and my half 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.280 onion rings, half fries, and the first bite that I'm 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.840 taking of that Cluck Deluxe. I true, I'm say this 0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:57.000 with no FACTI facetiousness. I truly think it's the same 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.880 way that people who are shooting up Heroin in a 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:02.680 gutter field. 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.160 I mean, yeah, I know, you're exactly right. 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.080 You're exactly right, and I'm not trying to be rude 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:14.560 about comparing to a Heroin addict. But our bodies, you know, 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.600 they can develop dependencies on any sort of substances. You know, 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.840 you talked to people who addicted to jerking off, or 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:24.080 video games or I don't know, suckling on people's feet, whatever, 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.560 anything's going to be an addiction. You know that creates dopamine. 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.560 But listen, while you can still go to Jack in 0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:32.840 the Box at one in the morning, right, but instead 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.640 of getting the burger and two tacos and shit, why 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.360 I just like get a burger and one talk. You know, 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.360 you can lose weight and feel like you'll feel better. 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.160 You can just like tone it down a little bit, 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.720 just a little less food, and seriously, you'll see results. 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.200 You can be like, hold on, hold on, hold on, 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:53.400 this is easy, man. You know that's literally what I did. 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.320 I was just eating the same stuff, but I was like, 0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.520 let me just cut this down by like thirty percent. 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.400 And I mean, you know, I guess that's true. And 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:04.920 I've always, I guess I've always felt like, well, I've 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:06.760 always felt like I can't. 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:07.320 You know. 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.120 My problem is, I've always been like an all or 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.600 nothing guy. I've always been like either I am in 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.920 the mindset of I'm gonna eat healthy or like I'm 0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.160 like doing fasting or I'm doing keto or something, or 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:20.560 I'm not. 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.160 No, don't know, you don't need to do that. 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:24.959 Seriously, I know, but it's a problem. But it's prob 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.480 because I know in my head. I know in my head, 0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.400 I'm like the only real way for sustainable change is 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.520 to make it like a lifestyle, to incorporate it into 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:32.280 my exactly. 0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.920 I know all these all these bad meme diets, do 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:40.440 keto fasting, it's really unnecessary. Like, it's just about setting 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.400 up like something you can do consistently that is not 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.200 like too far over. You know, it's not over your 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.200 daily burn calories. It's seriously that easy. And if you 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.720 get in the mindset of like, I can do what 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.640 I'm doing now, just tone it down a little bit, 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.640 you'll feel great. You'll like it feels amazing. Honestly, I 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.360 don't think I can do I don't think I can running. 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.920 I don't think I can do what I'm doing now 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.640 and tone it down a bit and lose weight. I 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.600 don't think that me going to Jack in the Box 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.480 at one o'clock in the morning and getting the cluck 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.880 sandwich and one taco instead of two tacos. By the way, 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.480 it comes that you order two tacos. It comes with 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.880 two tacos. But okay, I don't think that that would 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.560 You know, you don't have to brag that you've never 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:26.400 been to Jack in the Box. 0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.440 No, I mean it's not it's not ideal. 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.760 But kidding. I don't think you're bragging, Like I think you're. 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.360 The kind of guy that can get it done. Seriously, 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.120 I know I need to grow up. 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.440 I have this fucking podcast where I talk to people 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:46.320 about their lives, and I I can't fix my own. 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:47.840 That's it's really transtragic. 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.520 You know, you can't. 0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.400 I really felt like I really have had epiphanies. I 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.120 really have had epiphanies where I'm like, man, you know, 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.640 I'm on this thing helping talking to people about their stuff, 0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.720 but I can't fucking not eat the two tacos. 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.680 Well that's you know, that's that's anybody on the internet, 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.680 to be honest, Like you go, you know, you like 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.240 look up how to do something. You go and redd 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.040 it and you're like and they're like, you know, giving 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.720 you advice and have do shit, and you're like, well, 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.280 what are their qualifications? You know, you're not a real therapist, 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.800 but you're just a guy who's lived life, and overall 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.480 you get pretty solid advice. So, I mean, nobody should 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.400 ever take anyone's opinion one hundred percent, but you can 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.960 just apply it to your own life in in different ways. 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:36.320 You know, well, well will nineteen from Virginia. You've given 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.360 me a lot to think about. You actually have. I'm 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:39.960 going to try to take this with me when I 0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.080 When I usually I try to leave all the stuff 0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:44.680 on the table, But I'm going to try to take 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:45.280 this one with me. 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.680 Well, you should write it down, see, don't forget because Lyle, 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.200 you can do it, you know. 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.840 Oh man, all right, I'll try. 0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.120 You can do it. 0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:59.960 Just write down a piece of fucking just spread down 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.120 a sticky note like put it above your betters up 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.560 and so you don't forget, man, because otherwise it's probably 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:05.840 just in one ear at the other. You do so 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:06.520 many phone calls. 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:16.320 You know you can do this, man, Is this what 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.200 you wanted? Is that they were like? Is this is 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:19.920 what you want from your friends? Is that they come 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:21.120 to you with their stuff? 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.320 This is exactly what I want for my friends. 0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:25.000 But none of. 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.560 Okay, well I got I'm not really serious about it either. 0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:29.840 But how does how does it feel? 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.720 It feels nice? I just want somebody to listen to 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:35.320 my face. 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:36.560 You know. 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.560 Here's the thing. Here's my thing, though, is you're listen 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.800 your rights And this is probably how people feel when 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.520 I talk to them on the phone. Is that it's easy. 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.160 It's me, They're all. This ship is easier said than done. 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:55.880 It Yeah, it is. No, it's definitely not easy, but 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:57.800 it's not all that hard, you know. 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.440 Okay, Well tell me before we go. Let's give me 0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.640 one new experience that you're going to try out that 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:09.880 you think will give you a greater perspective and be 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.680 less hateful of people. And then if you do that, 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.520 I'll eat one taco to nine instead of two. 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.320 Okay, Well, I can talk about something I did yesterday, 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:26.040 which was I did try I did try shroom yesterday 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:31.160 with some friends, one of whom is overweight, and I 0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.200 don't know, I can't say it changed my life, but 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.400 it definitely made me. I'd say it up to my 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.799 overall mood. It's been a couple of days now by 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:45.640 like ten to fifteen percent, So maybe that will help 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:46.440 me in the long run. 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:51.520 But I don't know if doing mushrooms, because I. 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:52.879 Know that's the whole new I know that's the whole 0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:53.360 new canal. 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.160 I got you, all right, I guess I guess listen, 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.040 all right, I guess if you're trying to hate fat 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:04.040 people less, doing mushrooms with the fat guy counts all right, 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.920 I'll give you. I'll tell you what. I'll give you 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:13.080 that in terms of that as an experience that will 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.600 help you get over your hatefulness. I'll give you that 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.000 as an equivalent of me eating one taco instead of two. 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:20.560 I think that's a fair trade. 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:25.440 Okay, you can do that, Will. 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:26.520 Is there anything else you want to say to the 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.759 people of the computer before you go? Oh? 0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:31.319 Yeah, I want to ask, are you coming to DC 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.239 in your tour next year or I guess this year? 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.640 Fucking I think so. I know I'm coming to the 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.320 East Coast. I know I'm going back to Philly. I 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:44.240 know I'm going back to New York. So worst case scenario, 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:45.560 if I don't come to DC, you can. 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:49.399 Drive, well, I can go to Philly. Okay, Well, i'll 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.040 see you there and i'll see if you remember me. 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:53.840 Okay, all right, I'll bring you up on stage. And 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.600 if I look thinner, then you know it worked. And 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.359 if I look fatter, then you know you can come 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.040 up on stage and tell me to eat only one 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:03.680 taco again. 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:08.160 Thank you, Lyle, I love the show. 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.799 Thanks shotting me on man, appreciate it. Well, take care, 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.719 all right, I don't know. Here's the thing. I've had 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.640 this conversation with so many people just goes in circles. 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:25.800 But all you fucking oolful, I'll figure myself out, you 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.480 know eventually, maybe. 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:31.520 I I. 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.080 Yeah, I've let it sling, I've let it slide by 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:43.880 the waystside. Okay, tonight, one taco, maybe a taco and 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.399 a half. Maybe we start with a taco and a half. 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.400 See where that gets us? Hello? Hi, who is this? 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:53.520 Oh? Hi? 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:55.640 This is Lynette and Jacqueline. 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.320 Hi, Lyle Hiland, Nette and Jacqueline. How are you guys doing. 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:00.919 Good? 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:01.680 How are you? 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:03.280 How are you handsome? 0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:09.520 I'm feeling pretty good. I'm hanging out, I'm being a gecko. 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:13.160 I'm talking to people in the computer. What are you 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:13.560 guys up to? 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:15.240 That's why we called? 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.000 How can I How can I get you guys this evening? 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:21.520 Listen? 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:23.000 Listen? 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:29.560 So you have two grown ass women with kids pushing 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:33.560 forty and I'm the youngest child that's going to be 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.040 thirty five in two weeks and I'm still getting yelled at. 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:36.439 By my mother. 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:41.680 So okay, help, who am I talking? 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:41.920 Who? 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:43.560 I'm sorry? I want to be able to tell a 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:51.160 difference between you guys. Who who was just talking? Just now, Jacqueline, Jacqueline. Okay, 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.279 so you're pushing forty and your mother is still a 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:53.840 yelling at you. 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.600 Well, I'm pushing thirty five and my mother's still yelling. 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.120 But my older sister, who's pushing forty is not getting 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.560 yelled at. Okay, she's the safe child. 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:08.160 Okay, So Jacqueline is getting yelled at and Lynette is 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:13.319 not getting yelled at. Exactly Okay, what is what are 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.040 you getting yelled at for? 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:23.280 Just everything? My my older sister can talk about anything. 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.960 Okay, tell me the last thing. Tell me the last 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:29.080 thing your mother yelled at you about. 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:36.759 So I'm going to keep it. So, my older sister 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.600 randomly decided to say that she was the only one 0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:44.680 that didn't do a recreational drug, and I was like, okay, 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.399 well I'm the only one that didn't do a hallucinetic 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.960 jug and she told me to keep it down. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.160 Your mother told you to keep it dead yell. 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.440 Yeah, okay, why was the baby getting yelled at? 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:05.719 Okay, Lynette, what's your take on this? 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:14.319 Well, clearly, I'm the favorite child. So honestly, I call 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.480 my mom every day and she does not call myr 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.919 mom every day because she used to live ten minutes 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:20.879 away from me, and she just moved three hours away 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.600 from me. That's why I don't call her every day. Okay, 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.879 but I lived sixteen hours away and I've called them 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:33.320 every day for the last twenty years. Okay, clearly I 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.720 am the favorite, but I'm the baby. 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:43.759 Okay, Jacqueline, tell me, I mean, let's let's talk about 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.719 this independent of your sister. What are the problems. What 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.440 would you say are the problems in your relationship with 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:55.600 your mom that you would like to see fixed. 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.040 I really don't have any I just want to I 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.239 want to stop getting yelled at. I think because it's 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:04.920 I'm the baby, and I get away with a lot 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.200 of stuff situation. But no, I'm not going to talk 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.239 about this sleeping. My husband's like chiming in because he's mad. 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.040 We're in twin bed because we're visiting for the holidays. 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:20.600 It's a fool, but it's a full even worse. But no, Okay, 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.640 have you ever got the baby? 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:23.759 Uh? Huh? 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.239 I no, I think because the baby and she may 0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.440 be more protective of me. But at the same time, 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.480 to put in perspective, my sister had to wait until 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.840 she was like twenty five to get her belly button peers, 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.200 and I got mine when I was here, so I 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:41.960 was eighteen. So why am I getting yelled at when 0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.520 I got away with so much more stuff? Now that 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.640 I'm almost forty, you got away with so much more stuff, 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:53.040 and me as the older person, they had to learn 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.400 through me to for you to get away with stuff, 0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:02.880 And now they're letting me be very free, and now 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.319 they're mad about the things that you're doing. 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.279 Okay, So I was leaving New York. 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.040 We're not sitting on a white clause? 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:13.680 Are you okay? Can you guys, can you guys, Can 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:14.840 you guys do me a favorite? Can you guys do 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:16.480 me a favor? And please not read the chat and 0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.759 just talk to me. It gets really distracting when you 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:27.719 guys are reading the chat. Okay. So you clearly have 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.560 the a problem with your mom yelling at you. Have 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.600 you ever talked to her about this problem that you 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:32.719 have with her yelling at you? 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:35.600 No? 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:37.879 But no, but I tell her to do it all 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.080 the time. And I always talk to my mom and 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.480 tell my mom to talk to her about the problems. 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.880 I swear I'm the middle person, so I hear it 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.600 from my mom and then I hear it from my 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.160 sister and I'm always telling them to talk about it 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:49.840 and they never do. 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:52.319 What am Are there fucking three of you guys? 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:52.520 Now? 0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:54.200 No? 0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:54.560 No? 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:56.160 Oh? 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.680 Okay and Jacks okay, all right, I got confused for 0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.759 a second. Okay, all right, I'm gonna let me just 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.480 talk straight to Jacqueline real quick. Okay, So have you 0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.040 or have you not had a conversation with your mom 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.280 where you tell her that you're upset with her about 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:11.200 the way that she has been treating you. 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:14.279 I'll be honest and say no. 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:24.000 Okay, Well, I mean, listen, you might benefit from doing that, 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.800 right because your mom might not even have any idea 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.799 that you're feeling this way, because you know, you can't 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.280 expect people to be mind readers. So if you're feeling 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.680 a certain way in this relationship you have with your mom, 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:36.279 you know you should tell her. 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:41.440 I agree with that. 0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.400 Okay. You say that you sound like you have a 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.719 reservation with having this conversation with your mom. What would 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:49.400 that reservation be? 0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:58.120 I do, because we're both capacorns. What we're both capacorns. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:42:59.000 We're both stubborn. 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:05.560 You and your mom are both stubborn. Yeah, Okay, Well, 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.680 let me ask you this. Do you do you want 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.479 and and there's no right or wrong answer to this question. 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:17.520 Do you want to fix this issue? 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.320 I do? And like, you know what, it's it's not 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.160 a big deal when the family gets together because my 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.720 sister and I live like staateth away, I'm in Florida 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.080 and ju Virginia. But when we get together, we're like, hey, 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.160 what's up? Because we realize that there's a problem. 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.239 Okay, so you both realize there's a problem, and neither 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:47.640 of you are making the steps to talk about the problem. Yeah, okay, okay, 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:58.000 talk about the problem. I don't know. Stubbornness, your stubbornness 0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.879 that you that you have self proclaimed for yourself. Does 0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.080 it does it really serve you in any way, shape 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:13.000 or form life? Okay? Well, if if it doesn't a 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:17.160 rich your life, then then then why why do you 0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.200 go hold on to this this idea of yourself as 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:20.800 being stubborn? 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:27.319 I just I just don't understand why I'm getting yelled at. 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.840 I get it, I really do, I truly do. 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:42.399 Okay, But Louise, okay, listen, if I if I could 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.040 say a couple of things, Uh, if if you're looking 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:49.560 upon yourself and this idea that you have of yourself 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.800 as being stubborn because you're a Capricorn. And you you know, 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.759 as as I've asked you just now whether or not 0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.920 that idea or that schema that you have of yourself 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.479 from that character trait is serving you, and you said 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:07.000 it's not. I think you might benefit from from dropping 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.520 that character trait to the best of your ability. And uh, 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.400 if you truly do want to fix this issue that 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.680 you have with your mom, uh, you know, go go 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:23.279 talk to her about it, because it could be a 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.880 beautiful thing. Right, because you're you're sitting here and you're like, 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:27.560 I don't I want to know why I'm always getting 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:29.759 yelled at, and you're You're never going to know. You 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:34.000 only have your assumptions, which you know, assumptions. 0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:35.800 You don't want to cause any more drama? 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:38.240 Why why why would that cause it any drama? 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.680 But you're right, You're totally right. 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:42.920 What well, well, hold on, why do you think it 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.839 would cause drama to talk to your mom? 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.480 Because I'm putting I'm putting her on the spot, and 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:49.920 that's my mama. Nobody wants to put their mom on 0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:50.879 the spot, am I right? 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:57.239 Okay, let me let me bring this up to you. 0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:04.200 If you were to who talk to your mom in 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:10.759 such a way where you're not, you know, telling her 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.720 how she is, but you're telling her how you feel. 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:17.560 You're using this is something we learned in you know, 0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:24.719 as children, the eye statements genius thing applicable highly in 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:29.200 adulthood as well, is the I statement. So if you 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:30.800 were to talk to your mother and go, you know, 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:37.160 I feel belittled when you yell at me for these things, 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.320 and you really come at it from a point of 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.799 view of you know, you're telling her how you feel, 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:46.920 unless of a less of you know, this idea you 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.680 might have in your mind of the only way to 0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:54.279 do it being a hostile attack on her, then it 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:59.040 won't cause any drama, unless if your mom is the 0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:04.800 kind of person that will interpret you expressing your feelings 0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.760 to her as an attack on her, in which case 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:11.560 there is very little you can do about that. 0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.759 But exactly, yes, exactly, and. 0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.440 Listen this very little and listen, there's very little you 0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:20.880 can do about that if your mom is the kind 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.920 of person to interpret you sharing your feelings as an 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:29.040 attack on her. But in terms of of examining what 0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.160 in this situation is within your control. It's within your 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:36.040 control to try and not assume off the bat that 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.239 your mother will take it as an attack, because that 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.200 assumption won't serve you, you know, go ahead and try 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.479 at the very least. Is that fair? Is e anything 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:45.200 I'm saying fair to you? 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:51.359 Yo? One hundred percent? I completely agree And no, you're 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.400 completely right. Like if if we were to put her 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.560 on the spot, and that was my older sister saying, yes, 0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.560 that's exactly how she is. No one wants to be 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:00.960 pro on the spot. No one wants to be like 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:01.719 proved wrong. 0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:08.759 Does not this But this is not a right or 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:10.520 wrong thing, And this is not a putting on the 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.960 spot thing. This is like you know, I think if 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.320 if you want to do your if you if you 0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:20.200 don't want her to frame it as that, then you 0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:23.120 have to not frame it as that. Right. I don't 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:27.680 think you guys are preemptively framing you expressing your feelings 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.960 to your mom as some kind of like proving her 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.960 wrong or putting her on the spot. That's not what 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:38.359 we're doing. You know, You're just expressing yourself. Okay, You're 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.840 not putting anyone on the spot. You're not coming at people. Okay, 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.319 this is not a hostile attack. This is not a war, 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.680 This is not a you versus your mom. This is 0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:51.600 just you expressing yourself to your mom, because she might 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.200 not know how she's making you feel when she's yelling 0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:58.200 at you. So if you if you don't want her 0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:00.879 to frame it as an attack, you need to make 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.440 sure that you are not thinking of it as an attack. 0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:07.880 Either being defensive. Okay, I no, I agree with that, 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.840 because I can come into a situation very defensive. 0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:17.040 Yes, And look, I understand you know, you know your mom, 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.399 and I don't know your mom, so I understand why 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:23.239 you have this idea of how she might react to uh, 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:28.200 you know you, uh, you know, expressing yourself to her, 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.799 and but you never know until you try. 0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:38.480 So Yeah. Also, her birthday tomorrow, so happy birthday, mom, 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:39.480 Happy birthday. 0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.640 Happy birthday Mom. You should you should call her on 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:43.200 her birthday. 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.600 No, she's with us, she's obscurius, which is with you 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:48.160 right now? 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.960 Could you could you hear this conversation? 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.560 No, she's no, no, no, no, she's sleeping upstairs. We're 0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.200 we're all together on a family vacation. But she's already 0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:58.080 a sleep upstairs. 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:00.560 Are you guys having fun? 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:04.560 So this is the highlight of the family vacation. 0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.480 This right now, you guys talking to me is the 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:13.640 highlight of the family vacation. No, where are you guys 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:14.560 on vacation at? 0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:19.120 So I'm from Florida and I'm visiting my sister in 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.840 Virginia and my parents are from Florida as well. So 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:22.959 we all did a road trip. 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:25.640 Oh, you guys are in Virginia. Okay, this might be 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:31.360 the highlight of your vacation. Actually, I can't imagine what 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.520 it is you guys are doing and having fun in Virginia. 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.160 Hey, we went to Bush Gardens? 0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:40.440 All right, that's pretty good. Did you ride the Manta. 0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:45.879 I didn't cook close for the season, unlike Florida, where 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:47.680 it's opened year round where I'm from. 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:51.680 Okay, So are you going to talk to your mom? 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:55.200 I mean, yeah, but not on. 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:58.200 Her birthday tomorrow. But no, Like absolutely, I completely agree 0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:01.400 with you. Like I paid hundreds of dollars for counseling, 0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:03.720 and I've got better advice from you, Lyle. 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:09.239 I'm glad to hear that. And you know what, you 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:10.680 can have this one for free. 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.840 I know you're the best and I'm so glad you. 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:20.359 Fixed your glove, Lynette and Jacqueline. Is there anything else 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.359 you guys want to say to me or to the people, 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:24.560 as the computer before. 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:29.719 We go, just happy New Year, and just absorb every 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:34.400 amount of love and happiness and light because time flies, 0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:36.040 How kind? 0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:40.080 How kind? Now you're right, Time does fly, and before 0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:42.600 you know it, you and everyone you love will be 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.160 extremely dead dead. 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:50.200 Love's morbid, but you're right. Hey, you guys, have a 0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:55.160 good night, thanks, Lyle, Mary. 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:58.719 Christens, Merry Christmas. I cut them off right when this 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.680 Onry Christmas. All right, here's my astrology thing, and I 0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.520 don't want to I'm not I don't yuck people's gems, 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.360 all right. I don't judge people about their things, but 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.520 I guess what I don't. One thing I just don't 0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.719 like about astrology is this idea that you guys know 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:16.040 what a schema is. We've talked about this shit on 0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.640 here before. I'm not a real therapist, by the way, 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.880 so don't I don't want. But I do like that 0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:25.360 word schema. It's a therapist, the word. But one thing 0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.560 I don't like about astrology is that people like who 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:34.640 really like cling to it. They form schemas about themselves 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:41.680 based upon their sign that I find dangerous. Again, I 0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:43.680 don't want to yuck people's yum. If you're in astrology. 0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.200 I'm not here to be like, oh, it's fake and shitty. 0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.439 I have everything's fuck you know that's not I don't 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.839 care about any of that. I just care about again, 0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.520 this idea that people are like, well, I'm a Capricorn 0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:59.600 and it says here on this horoscope or it says 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:03.600 here in this book or whatever that Capricorns are stubborn, 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:07.440 and then it becomes some kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. 0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:15.560 And I find that dangerous. But you know, I don't know. 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:17.879 Live your life, do whatever you gotta do. I hope 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:19.719 that she has the conversation that she needs to have, 0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:25.520 and I hope that they find other fun things to 0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:32.359 do in the in the great state of Virginia. Hi, Hello, Gek, Yeah, 0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:32.800 who is this? 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:34.560 This is Andy? How are you doing, Gek? 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:36.719 I'm doing all right, Andy? What's going on? 0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:41.800 Not a bunch? Have you ever heard about the chicken 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:43.240 fucker from Possham Hallwinds? 0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:46.160 I have not. 0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:52.120 Okay, So, just to. 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.879 Set the stage, my whole outside of the family originates 0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:59.280 from this place in Kentucky that was called Posham Hollers. 0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:05.839 My grandma had a cousin whose chickens kept dying. Well, 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:10.040 their neighbors chickens kept dying and they couldn't figure out why. Well, 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:13.880 one day the neighbor up the hill saw my grandma's 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:20.240 cousin fucking the chickens. And the kicker to this story 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:25.520 is the way the family decided to handle this was 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:29.000 to send my grandma over there so he would fuck 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:30.160 her and not the chickens. 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:33.040 She didn't do it, but. 0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:41.680 Was so how did this eventually resolve? Did he eventually 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:43.000 stop fucking the chickens? 0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:45.640 You know what? 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.399 I have never asked them that, but I'm assuming since 0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:52.160 everyone found them out. I wonder how they picked her though, 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.200 Like did they have all the cousins do their best 0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:58.600 chicken dance or like what? I don't know what transpired. 0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:05.160 Now, your grandma was also your grandfather's cousin. 0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:12.080 No, no, it was my grandma and her cousin was 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:13.520 the one to fuck the chickens. 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:20.240 Okay, oh, okay, so your grandmother's cousin was fucking chickens. 0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:22.160 Mm hmm. 0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:30.040 Correct, and uh, your grandma's family sent her over so 0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:34.480 that her cousin, so that the guy could fuck his 0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:41.600 cousin instead of his chickens. Precisely interesting. Now I'm very 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:46.320 fascinated because why did they feel as though fucking the 0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:49.600 fucking your cousin is worse, is not as bad as 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:52.240 fucking chicken? 0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:56.799 Right right? I don't know if it was a whole Well, 0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:58.680 if we keep if we at least keep them away 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:02.080 from bestiality, but I mean, incest is no better. 0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.320 It's funny because I'm wondering that, right, I'm like, is 0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:09.840 it better or worse to fuck a chicken than your cousin? 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:13.520 Like I'm like, in a would you rather scenario, like 0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:20.120 if there's some kind of objective totem pole of you know, 0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:27.360 sexual depravity, I don't know which one is worse. I 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.319 get all right, you know what I'm just gonna say. 0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:31.359 I'm in a form an opinion on this. I think 0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:38.360 fucking a chicken is worse than fucking your cousin, because people, 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:42.239 because there's a there's a history. I don't think it 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:50.279 has ever been societally accepted to fuck chickens, but at 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:54.920 some point in our timeline, it was totally societally acceptable 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:58.080 to fuck your cousin. We don't go by those standards, right, 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:02.279 it still is in some way, all right, So all right, 0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:03.600 so I see what they were doing. They were like, 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:07.279 this guy is depraved. Let's you know, we're not going 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:10.960 to get him to non you know, to fuck non 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:16.800 cousin human people, you know, immediately, but we wean him 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:22.600 off by starting him with his cousin. I don't think 0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.400 that that was I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this. 0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:29.480 I'm gonna say this. I don't think that that was 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:36.680 necessarily a good strategy in practice, but I understand the 0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:37.800 intention behind it. 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:43.440 Right, It's like they might have had good intentions, but 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.760 the end result is still not very good. 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.920 And I'm glad. Tell your grandmother. Is your grandmother still alive? 0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.240 She is? She is like the most important person in 0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:56.760 my life. 0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:01.840 Tell your grandmother that good for her for not fucking 0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.880 her cousin, because she shouldn't fuck she why, you know, 0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:07.920 just because they had this plan to get you know, well, 0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.600 the plan doesn't work because now they bring horror into 0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:13.240 the private because now both of them are sucking their cousin. 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.800 So again, I guess so again, I'm not gonna say 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:18.840 it's a good plan or that it was even good intentions. 0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:20.560 I just I understand what they were going for and 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:21.360 I disagree with it. 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:25.480 Yeah, it's just bad all around. 0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:31.680 What's your grandmother doing? Is she around? Can we talk 0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:31.920 to her? 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:36.080 Oh? No, she's not. I live like an hour away 0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:39.080 from her. Okay, you'll probably kill me if you're telling 0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:40.280 this story on the internet. 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:42.640 Okay, all right, then we won't tell anyone that you're 0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:45.880 telling us. This will listen, Andy, Is there anything else 0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:47.120 you want to say to the people of the computer 0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:47.560 before we go? 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.400 If you're fucking chickens, make sure your neighbors can't see. 0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:53.640 No, I'm kidding. 0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:55.600 Don't fuck chickens, and don't fuck your cousins. 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.560 Uh, you know what? Two good sentiments to end on. 0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:04.080 Have a good night, lyle okay, take care In. 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:08.080 The repeat Cat goes on the line taking your phone. 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:08.800 Calls every night. 0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.840 Never beat Cant goes doing to ride. He's teaching you 0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:15.840 how to live your life, but he's not really an expert.