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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, Lyle.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be on the phone video.

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Speaker 3: Oh amazing, what's your What's what's up?

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Speaker 2: So, like, I'm kind of dealing with something right now.

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Speaker 2: I kind of shot on somebody way too hard when

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Speaker 2: I was a kid, and I'm afraid I like wouined

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Speaker 2: their life.

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Speaker 3: Ah okay, what did you? What did you in? What

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Speaker 3: way did you ship on this person?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: I had this friend in my middle school and her

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Speaker 2: parents were super strict and she was grounded. So she

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Speaker 2: asked me to check for my Space. So I logged

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Speaker 2: on and I was going through it, and I found

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Speaker 2: an email between her and some guys in her class,

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Speaker 2: and so I am talking really fast, but it was

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Speaker 2: talking about like a threesome they had. And back in

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Speaker 2: like my Space days, you could copy something and paste

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Speaker 2: it on a board for like every everybody to see.

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Speaker 2: So I copied that whole conversation and like tasted it,

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Speaker 2: and like everybody in our school, her youth pastor everybody

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Speaker 2: knew that she had like train rain on her and

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Speaker 2: like her mom like sent her away. And my mom

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Speaker 2: saw her years later at like Taco Bell, and she

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Speaker 2: was like, your daughter ruined my life.

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Speaker 3: She your mom saw her mom years later at Taco Bell.

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Speaker 2: No, my mom saw her. She was like working and

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Speaker 2: she noticed my mom and was like, hey, who are

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Speaker 2: you so and so his mom and my mom was

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Speaker 2: like yeah, and she was like, your daughter ruined my life.

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Speaker 3: How many years later was that?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man? It was like ten years later?

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Speaker 3: Really yeah?

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Speaker 2: And like I told my mom and she was like, well,

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Speaker 2: you didn't make her fuck those dudes.

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Speaker 3: So how old were you guys when this was happening.

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Speaker 2: We were unfortunately young, like probably eleven, twelve, eleven?

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Speaker 3: Whoa, you guys were eleven?

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Speaker 2: No, this like and the other guys were like really

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Speaker 3: Okay, so uh you uh all right. So the story

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Speaker 3: is your your friend was grounded and she let you

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Speaker 3: log into her MySpace page.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because she used to change like her background and

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Speaker 2: and I was like, ha, got her.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I was going to ask what your your

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Speaker 3: motive was in posting this message publicly. It was because

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Speaker 3: she insulted your Lisa Frankfoelder.

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Speaker 2: It was something like that, like I don't remember exactly,

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Speaker 2: but it was nothing to like be what I did,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think.

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Speaker 1: She deserved that.

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Speaker 3: And so this DM of her, So what the DM

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like what they were gonna do?

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Speaker 4: It's the next shit and dig?

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Speaker 3: Was this all true or were they just kind of

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Speaker 4: No? It was unfortunately true.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And now when your friends realized that you had

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Speaker 2: Oh, she was pissed, like so her mom found out

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Speaker 3: So she what a full decade later, at the age

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Speaker 3: Bitch, all right, have you since Well, okay, let me

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Speaker 3: ask you this, what do you believe the fallout was

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Speaker 2: So like, I guess I kind of feel like she

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I kind of looked back

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Speaker 3: Okay, did anything ever happen to the guy? Like the

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Speaker 2: No like they just got like high sighs, and no

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you guys have not seen each other since

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Speaker 3: that you're thirty now. Yeah, so she's also probably thirty. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so a decade ago your mom ran into her at

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Speaker 3: a taco bell and she said that you ruined her

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Speaker 3: and you're calling me to talk about this. Why is

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Speaker 2: I guess because like I've been thinking recently of like,

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's been so long now,

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Speaker 3: Guess she was mad. I I don't really see what

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Speaker 2: I feel like it would be weird. Like I don't

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, So you this is interesting. So because you

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I mean like I don't agree what she

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Speaker 3: So this is rattling in your brain because you're kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, so I had like a pop in my lung,

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Speaker 2: And ever since that happen, it's kind of like got me, Like,

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Speaker 5: You can just die.

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Speaker 2: And I guess it's one of the things that I

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Speaker 2: I wish I would have.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I mean that's quite a grand epiphany there.

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Speaker 3: What now is between you and reaching out?

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Speaker 2: Because I just don't know if it would be weird?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe I should just reach out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but let me let's go back to your grand epiphany,

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Speaker 3: your grand epiphany that you are fallible as a human being,

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Speaker 3: You're a mortal, You're you're mortal. Uh, you want to

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Speaker 3: that epiphany and that's your epiphany. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 3: All right. Nowhere in that epiphany is there any concern

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's just shit I want to do before.

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Speaker 3: I die or not. It's not ship that, it's not

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Speaker 3: But the outcome is not important. It's not even it's

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: That does make sense.

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Speaker 2: That fits in a lot of aspects of my life,

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Speaker 2: and I think I'm going to reach out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good, What are you working on in therapy from

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man? Like I kind of had like a so

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like a whole thing. But in people

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Speaker 2: and just people gave my family shit all the time.

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Speaker 3: What were people giving you shit about?

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Speaker 1: Oh that?

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Speaker 2: Like we were carnival trash and trailer trash, and like

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Speaker 4: Like it was just bad.

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Speaker 2: It was just a bad situation.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 2: They don't even live there anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate you, Lyle, I don't. I don't like people.

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Speaker 3: So well, what opinions have I expressed that you disagree with?

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Speaker 3: really self aware of of, you know, the things in

441
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Speaker 3: your life and the thoughts that are that are holding

442
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: you back from a deeper experience as a human being

443
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: on this earth. It's good to have that awareness, especially uh,

444
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: you know, so young, because it takes a lot of

445
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: people a lot of time too to wake up from that.

446
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: Some people never do, you know, they become they keep that,

447
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: they keep their prejudices with them held tightly and you know,

448
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: into into their you know, to their fucking deaths some people.

449
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: So this is good, man. It's good that you're going

450
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: to try to put yourself out there in situations where

451
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: you can talk to people that maybe you wouldn't normally

452
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: normally talk to mhmm, gee, how recent of a thing

453
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: is this?

454
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: Probably, I guess in the last couple of years. I

455
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: lost weight about two and a half years ago, and

456
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: since then it's been like, you know, I guess I

457
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: started to develop the mindset of like, like, you know,

458
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: I can do it, why can't you do it? But

459
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: you know that's not necessarily untrue, but it's like not

460
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: that important. You know, if other people want to look

461
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: like that, I can't stop them. There's plenty that you

462
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: can't stop other people from doing unhealthy things, like you know,

463
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: smoking or drugs whatever.

464
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Speaker 3: So it's true, it is, it is, Uh, it is

465
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: ultimately I mean, that's the thing about a lot of

466
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: these things, is it's ultimately irrelevant to your own life.

467
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, man, I think of it that

468
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: stuff too. I've had things. I've had that thought sometimes

469
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: with certain things of like, well, if I can do this,

470
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: how come these people can't do it? And you know,

471
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. We all have our own fucking things, man,

472
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: We all have our own struggles and our own levels

473
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: of energy and whatever other factors as to why we

474
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: don't operate the same exact way as the next person.

475
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: Why are you laughing?

476
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

477
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: Reprove me again?

478
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: Well, wow, is it inappropriate to ask, like, you know,

479
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: for just for your perspective, like what's your relationship.

480
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: With with your weight and like health stuff? Like what

481
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: do you ensure I feel about that? Sure? Sure, sure

482
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 3: we can talk about that. Let's see.

483
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: Uh.

484
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: You know, I think I need to grow up a

485
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: little bit. I really do. I feel like I need

486
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: to grow up a little bit, and I think I

487
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: need to eat better and exercise more and all that stuff.

488
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: It's you know, I'm in a cycle right now. If

489
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: you want to be my therapy, get go, I'm in

490
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: a cycle of I've.

491
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Always wanted to be your therapy. Get go, dude.

492
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: Sure, let's why not, let's do it. I have I

493
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: don't have. I don't feel like I have enough time

494
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: and energy to eat correctly an exercise. But I don't

495
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: have enough time and energy because I don't need healthy

496
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: and exercise. I feel like if I eat healthy and exercise,

497
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: I'd have more energy exactly. So it's I'm stuck in

498
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: that vicious cycle.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what can I tell you? Like, I think

500
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: eating and eating and working out are two different things.

501
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, if your goal is weight loss, like you

502
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: don't have to step foot in such jet you.

503
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: Know, Oh, I know, I know, But let me tell

504
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: you what, Well, I got to tell you something. I

505
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: got to tell you something. Will it's this is a shame,

506
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: But like the way I feel when I am sitting

507
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: in the parking lot of a Jack in the Box

508
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: at one o'clock in the morning and I have my

509
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: Cluck Chicken sandwich and my two tacos and my half

510
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: onion rings, half fries, and the first bite that I'm

511
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: taking of that Cluck Deluxe. I true, I'm say this

512
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: with no FACTI facetiousness. I truly think it's the same

513
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: way that people who are shooting up Heroin in a

514
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: gutter field.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I know, you're exactly right.

516
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, and I'm not trying to be rude

517
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: about comparing to a Heroin addict. But our bodies, you know,

518
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: they can develop dependencies on any sort of substances. You know,

519
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: you talked to people who addicted to jerking off, or

520
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: video games or I don't know, suckling on people's feet, whatever,

521
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: anything's going to be an addiction. You know that creates dopamine.

522
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: But listen, while you can still go to Jack in

523
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: the Box at one in the morning, right, but instead

524
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: of getting the burger and two tacos and shit, why

525
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: I just like get a burger and one talk. You know,

526
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: you can lose weight and feel like you'll feel better.

527
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: You can just like tone it down a little bit,

528
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: just a little less food, and seriously, you'll see results.

529
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: You can be like, hold on, hold on, hold on,

530
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: this is easy, man. You know that's literally what I did.

531
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: I was just eating the same stuff, but I was like,

532
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: let me just cut this down by like thirty percent.

533
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, I guess that's true. And

534
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: I've always, I guess I've always felt like, well, I've

535
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: always felt like I can't.

536
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: You know.

537
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: My problem is, I've always been like an all or

538
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: nothing guy. I've always been like either I am in

539
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: the mindset of I'm gonna eat healthy or like I'm

540
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: like doing fasting or I'm doing keto or something, or

541
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: I'm not.

542
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: No, don't know, you don't need to do that.

543
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 3: Seriously, I know, but it's a problem. But it's prob

544
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: because I know in my head. I know in my head,

545
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm like the only real way for sustainable change is

546
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: to make it like a lifestyle, to incorporate it into

547
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: my exactly.

548
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: I know all these all these bad meme diets, do

549
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: keto fasting, it's really unnecessary. Like, it's just about setting

550
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: up like something you can do consistently that is not

551
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: like too far over. You know, it's not over your

552
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: daily burn calories. It's seriously that easy. And if you

553
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: get in the mindset of like, I can do what

554
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing now, just tone it down a little bit,

555
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: you'll feel great. You'll like it feels amazing. Honestly, I

556
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: don't think I can do I don't think I can running.

557
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't think I can do what I'm doing now

558
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: and tone it down a bit and lose weight. I

559
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: don't think that me going to Jack in the Box

560
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: at one o'clock in the morning and getting the cluck

561
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: sandwich and one taco instead of two tacos. By the way,

562
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: it comes that you order two tacos. It comes with

563
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: two tacos. But okay, I don't think that that would

564
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to brag that you've never

565
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: been to Jack in the Box.

566
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's not it's not ideal.

567
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: But kidding. I don't think you're bragging, Like I think you're.

568
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: The kind of guy that can get it done. Seriously,

569
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: I know I need to grow up.

570
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: I have this fucking podcast where I talk to people

571
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: about their lives, and I I can't fix my own.

572
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: That's it's really transtragic.

573
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: You know, you can't.

574
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: I really felt like I really have had epiphanies. I

575
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: really have had epiphanies where I'm like, man, you know,

576
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm on this thing helping talking to people about their stuff,

577
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: but I can't fucking not eat the two tacos.

578
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: Well that's you know, that's that's anybody on the internet,

579
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: to be honest, Like you go, you know, you like

580
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: look up how to do something. You go and redd

581
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: it and you're like and they're like, you know, giving

582
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: you advice and have do shit, and you're like, well,

583
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: what are their qualifications? You know, you're not a real therapist,

584
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: but you're just a guy who's lived life, and overall

585
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: you get pretty solid advice. So, I mean, nobody should

586
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: ever take anyone's opinion one hundred percent, but you can

587
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: just apply it to your own life in in different ways.

588
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: You know, well, well will nineteen from Virginia. You've given

589
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: me a lot to think about. You actually have. I'm

590
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: going to try to take this with me when I

591
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: When I usually I try to leave all the stuff

592
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: on the table, But I'm going to try to take

593
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: this one with me.

594
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: Well, you should write it down, see, don't forget because Lyle,

595
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: you can do it, you know.

596
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: Oh man, all right, I'll try.

597
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: You can do it.

598
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: Just write down a piece of fucking just spread down

599
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: a sticky note like put it above your betters up

600
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: and so you don't forget, man, because otherwise it's probably

601
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: just in one ear at the other. You do so

602
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: many phone calls.

603
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: You know you can do this, man, Is this what

604
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: you wanted? Is that they were like? Is this is

605
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: what you want from your friends? Is that they come

606
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: to you with their stuff?

607
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I want for my friends.

608
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: But none of.

609
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Okay, well I got I'm not really serious about it either.

610
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: But how does how does it feel?

611
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: It feels nice? I just want somebody to listen to

612
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: my face.

613
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: You know.

614
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Here's my thing, though, is you're listen

615
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: your rights And this is probably how people feel when

616
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: I talk to them on the phone. Is that it's easy.

617
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: It's me, They're all. This ship is easier said than done.

618
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: It Yeah, it is. No, it's definitely not easy, but

619
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: it's not all that hard, you know.

620
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Well tell me before we go. Let's give me

621
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: one new experience that you're going to try out that

622
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: you think will give you a greater perspective and be

623
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: less hateful of people. And then if you do that,

624
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: I'll eat one taco to nine instead of two.

625
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I can talk about something I did yesterday,

626
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: which was I did try I did try shroom yesterday

627
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: with some friends, one of whom is overweight, and I

628
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't say it changed my life, but

629
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: it definitely made me. I'd say it up to my

630
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: overall mood. It's been a couple of days now by

631
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: like ten to fifteen percent, So maybe that will help

632
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: me in the long run.

633
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: But I don't know if doing mushrooms, because I.

634
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: Know that's the whole new I know that's the whole

635
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: new canal.

636
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: I got you, all right, I guess I guess listen,

637
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: all right, I guess if you're trying to hate fat

638
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: people less, doing mushrooms with the fat guy counts all right,

639
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'll tell you what. I'll give you

640
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: that in terms of that as an experience that will

641
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: help you get over your hatefulness. I'll give you that

642
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: as an equivalent of me eating one taco instead of two.

643
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair trade.

644
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Okay, you can do that, Will.

645
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the

646
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: people of the computer before you go? Oh?

647
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask, are you coming to DC

648
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: in your tour next year or I guess this year?

649
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: Fucking I think so. I know I'm coming to the

650
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: East Coast. I know I'm going back to Philly. I

651
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 3: know I'm going back to New York. So worst case scenario,

652
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: if I don't come to DC, you can.

653
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: Drive, well, I can go to Philly. Okay, Well, i'll

654
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: see you there and i'll see if you remember me.

655
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'll bring you up on stage. And

656
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: if I look thinner, then you know it worked. And

657
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: if I look fatter, then you know you can come

658
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: up on stage and tell me to eat only one

659
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: taco again.

660
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lyle, I love the show.

661
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: Thanks shotting me on man, appreciate it. Well, take care,

662
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: all right, I don't know. Here's the thing. I've had

663
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: this conversation with so many people just goes in circles.

664
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 3: But all you fucking oolful, I'll figure myself out, you

665
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: know eventually, maybe.

666
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: I I.

667
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've let it sling, I've let it slide by

668
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: the waystside. Okay, tonight, one taco, maybe a taco and

669
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: a half. Maybe we start with a taco and a half.

670
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: See where that gets us? Hello? Hi, who is this?

671
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh? Hi?

672
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: This is Lynette and Jacqueline.

673
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: Hi, Lyle Hiland, Nette and Jacqueline. How are you guys doing.

674
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: Good?

675
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: How are you?

676
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 5: How are you handsome?

677
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good. I'm hanging out, I'm being a gecko.

678
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm talking to people in the computer. What are you

679
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: guys up to?

680
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 5: That's why we called?

681
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: How can I How can I get you guys this evening?

682
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: Listen?

683
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: Listen?

684
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 5: So you have two grown ass women with kids pushing

685
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: forty and I'm the youngest child that's going to be

686
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: thirty five in two weeks and I'm still getting yelled at.

687
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 4: By my mother.

688
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: So okay, help, who am I talking?

689
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: Who?

690
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? I want to be able to tell a

691
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: difference between you guys. Who who was just talking? Just now, Jacqueline, Jacqueline. Okay,

692
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: so you're pushing forty and your mother is still a

693
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: yelling at you.

694
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 5: Well, I'm pushing thirty five and my mother's still yelling.

695
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 5: But my older sister, who's pushing forty is not getting

696
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: yelled at. Okay, she's the safe child.

697
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So Jacqueline is getting yelled at and Lynette is

698
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: not getting yelled at. Exactly Okay, what is what are

699
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: you getting yelled at for?

700
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 5: Just everything? My my older sister can talk about anything.

701
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me the last thing. Tell me the last

702
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: thing your mother yelled at you about.

703
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: So I'm going to keep it. So, my older sister

704
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 5: randomly decided to say that she was the only one

705
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 5: that didn't do a recreational drug, and I was like, okay,

706
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 5: well I'm the only one that didn't do a hallucinetic

707
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: jug and she told me to keep it down.

708
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: Your mother told you to keep it dead yell.

709
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, why was the baby getting yelled at?

710
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: Okay, Lynette, what's your take on this?

711
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 5: Well, clearly, I'm the favorite child. So honestly, I call

712
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: my mom every day and she does not call myr

713
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 5: mom every day because she used to live ten minutes

714
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 5: away from me, and she just moved three hours away

715
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: from me. That's why I don't call her every day. Okay,

716
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 5: but I lived sixteen hours away and I've called them

717
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 5: every day for the last twenty years. Okay, clearly I

718
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 5: am the favorite, but I'm the baby.

719
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: Okay, Jacqueline, tell me, I mean, let's let's talk about

720
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: this independent of your sister. What are the problems. What

721
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: would you say are the problems in your relationship with

722
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: your mom that you would like to see fixed.

723
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 5: I really don't have any I just want to I

724
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 5: want to stop getting yelled at. I think because it's

725
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 5: I'm the baby, and I get away with a lot

726
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 5: of stuff situation. But no, I'm not going to talk

727
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 5: about this sleeping. My husband's like chiming in because he's mad.

728
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: We're in twin bed because we're visiting for the holidays.

729
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: It's a fool, but it's a full even worse. But no, Okay,

730
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: have you ever got the baby?

731
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: Uh? Huh?

732
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: I no, I think because the baby and she may

733
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 5: be more protective of me. But at the same time,

734
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: to put in perspective, my sister had to wait until

735
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 5: she was like twenty five to get her belly button peers,

736
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: and I got mine when I was here, so I

737
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 5: was eighteen. So why am I getting yelled at when

738
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: I got away with so much more stuff? Now that

739
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 5: I'm almost forty, you got away with so much more stuff,

740
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 5: and me as the older person, they had to learn

741
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 5: through me to for you to get away with stuff,

742
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 5: And now they're letting me be very free, and now

743
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: they're mad about the things that you're doing.

744
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was leaving New York.

745
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: We're not sitting on a white clause?

746
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: Are you okay? Can you guys, can you guys, Can

747
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: you guys do me a favorite? Can you guys do

748
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: me a favor? And please not read the chat and

749
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: just talk to me. It gets really distracting when you

750
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: guys are reading the chat. Okay. So you clearly have

751
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: the a problem with your mom yelling at you. Have

752
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: you ever talked to her about this problem that you

753
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: have with her yelling at you?

754
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: No?

755
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 5: But no, but I tell her to do it all

756
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 5: the time. And I always talk to my mom and

757
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: tell my mom to talk to her about the problems.

758
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 5: I swear I'm the middle person, so I hear it

759
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 5: from my mom and then I hear it from my

760
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: sister and I'm always telling them to talk about it

761
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 5: and they never do.

762
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: What am Are there fucking three of you guys?

763
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 5: Now?

764
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: No?

765
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: No?

766
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

767
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: Okay and Jacks okay, all right, I got confused for

768
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: a second. Okay, all right, I'm gonna let me just

769
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: talk straight to Jacqueline real quick. Okay, So have you

770
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: or have you not had a conversation with your mom

771
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 3: where you tell her that you're upset with her about

772
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: the way that she has been treating you.

773
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 5: I'll be honest and say no.

774
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean, listen, you might benefit from doing that,

775
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: right because your mom might not even have any idea

776
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: that you're feeling this way, because you know, you can't

777
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: expect people to be mind readers. So if you're feeling

778
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: a certain way in this relationship you have with your mom,

779
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: you know you should tell her.

780
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: I agree with that.

781
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: Okay. You say that you sound like you have a

782
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: reservation with having this conversation with your mom. What would

783
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: that reservation be?

784
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 5: I do, because we're both capacorns. What we're both capacorns.

785
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 5: We're both stubborn.

786
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: You and your mom are both stubborn. Yeah, Okay, Well,

787
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: let me ask you this. Do you do you want

788
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 3: and and there's no right or wrong answer to this question.

789
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: Do you want to fix this issue?

790
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 5: I do? And like, you know what, it's it's not

791
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: a big deal when the family gets together because my

792
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 5: sister and I live like staateth away, I'm in Florida

793
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: and ju Virginia. But when we get together, we're like, hey,

794
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: what's up? Because we realize that there's a problem.

795
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: Okay, so you both realize there's a problem, and neither

796
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: of you are making the steps to talk about the problem. Yeah, okay, okay,

797
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: talk about the problem. I don't know. Stubbornness, your stubbornness

798
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: that you that you have self proclaimed for yourself. Does

799
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: it does it really serve you in any way, shape

800
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: or form life? Okay? Well, if if it doesn't a

801
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: rich your life, then then then why why do you

802
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: go hold on to this this idea of yourself as

803
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: being stubborn?

804
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 5: I just I just don't understand why I'm getting yelled at.

805
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 5: I get it, I really do, I truly do.

806
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 3: Okay, But Louise, okay, listen, if I if I could

807
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: say a couple of things, Uh, if if you're looking

808
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: upon yourself and this idea that you have of yourself

809
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: as being stubborn because you're a Capricorn. And you you know,

810
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: as as I've asked you just now whether or not

811
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: that idea or that schema that you have of yourself

812
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 3: from that character trait is serving you, and you said

813
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: it's not. I think you might benefit from from dropping

814
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: that character trait to the best of your ability. And uh,

815
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: if you truly do want to fix this issue that

816
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: you have with your mom, uh, you know, go go

817
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: talk to her about it, because it could be a

818
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. Right, because you're you're sitting here and you're like,

819
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: I don't I want to know why I'm always getting

820
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: yelled at, and you're You're never going to know. You

821
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: only have your assumptions, which you know, assumptions.

822
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 5: You don't want to cause any more drama?

823
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 3: Why why why would that cause it any drama?

824
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: But you're right, You're totally right.

825
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: What well, well, hold on, why do you think it

826
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: would cause drama to talk to your mom?

827
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 5: Because I'm putting I'm putting her on the spot, and

828
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: that's my mama. Nobody wants to put their mom on

829
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 5: the spot, am I right?

830
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: Okay, let me let me bring this up to you.

831
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: If you were to who talk to your mom in

832
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: such a way where you're not, you know, telling her

833
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 3: how she is, but you're telling her how you feel.

834
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: You're using this is something we learned in you know,

835
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: as children, the eye statements genius thing applicable highly in

836
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: adulthood as well, is the I statement. So if you

837
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: were to talk to your mother and go, you know,

838
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: I feel belittled when you yell at me for these things,

839
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: and you really come at it from a point of

840
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: view of you know, you're telling her how you feel,

841
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: unless of a less of you know, this idea you

842
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: might have in your mind of the only way to

843
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: do it being a hostile attack on her, then it

844
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: won't cause any drama, unless if your mom is the

845
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: kind of person that will interpret you expressing your feelings

846
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 3: to her as an attack on her, in which case

847
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: there is very little you can do about that.

848
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: But exactly, yes, exactly, and.

849
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: Listen this very little and listen, there's very little you

850
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: can do about that if your mom is the kind

851
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: of person to interpret you sharing your feelings as an

852
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: attack on her. But in terms of of examining what

853
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: in this situation is within your control. It's within your

854
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: control to try and not assume off the bat that

855
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: your mother will take it as an attack, because that

856
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: assumption won't serve you, you know, go ahead and try

857
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 3: at the very least. Is that fair? Is e anything

858
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying fair to you?

859
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 5: Yo? One hundred percent? I completely agree And no, you're

860
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 5: completely right. Like if if we were to put her

861
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 5: on the spot, and that was my older sister saying, yes,

862
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 5: that's exactly how she is. No one wants to be

863
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 5: pro on the spot. No one wants to be like

864
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 5: proved wrong.

865
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: Does not this But this is not a right or

866
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: wrong thing, And this is not a putting on the

867
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: spot thing. This is like you know, I think if

868
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: if you want to do your if you if you

869
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: don't want her to frame it as that, then you

870
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: have to not frame it as that. Right. I don't

871
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: think you guys are preemptively framing you expressing your feelings

872
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: to your mom as some kind of like proving her

873
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: wrong or putting her on the spot. That's not what

874
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: we're doing. You know, You're just expressing yourself. Okay, You're

875
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: not putting anyone on the spot. You're not coming at people. Okay,

876
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: this is not a hostile attack. This is not a war,

877
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: This is not a you versus your mom. This is

878
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: just you expressing yourself to your mom, because she might

879
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: not know how she's making you feel when she's yelling

880
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: at you. So if you if you don't want her

881
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: to frame it as an attack, you need to make

882
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: sure that you are not thinking of it as an attack.

883
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 5: Either being defensive. Okay, I no, I agree with that,

884
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 5: because I can come into a situation very defensive.

885
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: Yes, And look, I understand you know, you know your mom,

886
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 3: and I don't know your mom, so I understand why

887
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: you have this idea of how she might react to uh,

888
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: you know you, uh, you know, expressing yourself to her,

889
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 3: and but you never know until you try.

890
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: So Yeah. Also, her birthday tomorrow, so happy birthday, mom,

891
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: Happy birthday.

892
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: Happy birthday Mom. You should you should call her on

893
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: her birthday.

894
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: No, she's with us, she's obscurius, which is with you

895
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 5: right now?

896
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: Could you could you hear this conversation?

897
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 5: No, she's no, no, no, no, she's sleeping upstairs. We're

898
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 5: we're all together on a family vacation. But she's already

899
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 5: a sleep upstairs.

900
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: Are you guys having fun?

901
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: So this is the highlight of the family vacation.

902
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: This right now, you guys talking to me is the

903
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: highlight of the family vacation. No, where are you guys

904
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: on vacation at?

905
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 5: So I'm from Florida and I'm visiting my sister in

906
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 5: Virginia and my parents are from Florida as well. So

907
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 5: we all did a road trip.

908
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys are in Virginia. Okay, this might be

909
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: the highlight of your vacation. Actually, I can't imagine what

910
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: it is you guys are doing and having fun in Virginia.

911
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 5: Hey, we went to Bush Gardens?

912
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: All right, that's pretty good. Did you ride the Manta.

913
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 5: I didn't cook close for the season, unlike Florida, where

914
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 5: it's opened year round where I'm from.

915
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So are you going to talk to your mom?

916
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but not on.

917
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: Her birthday tomorrow. But no, Like absolutely, I completely agree

918
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 5: with you. Like I paid hundreds of dollars for counseling,

919
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 5: and I've got better advice from you, Lyle.

920
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that. And you know what, you

921
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: can have this one for free.

922
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 5: I know you're the best and I'm so glad you.

923
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 3: Fixed your glove, Lynette and Jacqueline. Is there anything else

924
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 3: you guys want to say to me or to the people,

925
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: as the computer before.

926
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 5: We go, just happy New Year, and just absorb every

927
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 5: amount of love and happiness and light because time flies,

928
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 5: How kind?

929
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: How kind? Now you're right, Time does fly, and before

930
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: you know it, you and everyone you love will be

931
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: extremely dead dead.

932
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 5: Love's morbid, but you're right. Hey, you guys, have a

933
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: good night, thanks, Lyle, Mary.

934
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: Christens, Merry Christmas. I cut them off right when this

935
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Onry Christmas. All right, here's my astrology thing, and I

936
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: don't want to I'm not I don't yuck people's gems,

937
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: all right. I don't judge people about their things, but

938
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: I guess what I don't. One thing I just don't

939
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 3: like about astrology is this idea that you guys know

940
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: what a schema is. We've talked about this shit on

941
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: here before. I'm not a real therapist, by the way,

942
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: so don't I don't want. But I do like that

943
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: word schema. It's a therapist, the word. But one thing

944
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't like about astrology is that people like who

945
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: really like cling to it. They form schemas about themselves

946
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: based upon their sign that I find dangerous. Again, I

947
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: don't want to yuck people's yum. If you're in astrology.

948
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm not here to be like, oh, it's fake and shitty.

949
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 3: I have everything's fuck you know that's not I don't

950
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: care about any of that. I just care about again,

951
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: this idea that people are like, well, I'm a Capricorn

952
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: and it says here on this horoscope or it says

953
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: here in this book or whatever that Capricorns are stubborn,

954
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: and then it becomes some kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

955
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: And I find that dangerous. But you know, I don't know.

956
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: Live your life, do whatever you gotta do. I hope

957
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: that she has the conversation that she needs to have,

958
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: and I hope that they find other fun things to

959
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 3: do in the in the great state of Virginia. Hi, Hello, Gek, Yeah,

960
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: who is this?

961
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: This is Andy? How are you doing, Gek?

962
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: I'm doing all right, Andy? What's going on?

963
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 4: Not a bunch? Have you ever heard about the chicken

964
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 4: fucker from Possham Hallwinds?

965
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: I have not.

966
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: Okay, So, just to.

967
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 4: Set the stage, my whole outside of the family originates

968
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 4: from this place in Kentucky that was called Posham Hollers.

969
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 4: My grandma had a cousin whose chickens kept dying. Well,

970
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: their neighbors chickens kept dying and they couldn't figure out why. Well,

971
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 4: one day the neighbor up the hill saw my grandma's

972
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 4: cousin fucking the chickens. And the kicker to this story

973
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 4: is the way the family decided to handle this was

974
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: to send my grandma over there so he would fuck

975
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 4: her and not the chickens.

976
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: She didn't do it, but.

977
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: Was so how did this eventually resolve? Did he eventually

978
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: stop fucking the chickens?

979
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: You know what?

980
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 4: I have never asked them that, but I'm assuming since

981
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: everyone found them out. I wonder how they picked her though,

982
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: Like did they have all the cousins do their best

983
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: chicken dance or like what? I don't know what transpired.

984
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: Now, your grandma was also your grandfather's cousin.

985
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: No, no, it was my grandma and her cousin was

986
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: the one to fuck the chickens.

987
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 3: Okay, oh, okay, so your grandmother's cousin was fucking chickens.

988
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

989
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: Correct, and uh, your grandma's family sent her over so

990
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: that her cousin, so that the guy could fuck his

991
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: cousin instead of his chickens. Precisely interesting. Now I'm very

992
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 3: fascinated because why did they feel as though fucking the

993
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: fucking your cousin is worse, is not as bad as

994
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 3: fucking chicken?

995
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: Right right? I don't know if it was a whole Well,

996
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: if we keep if we at least keep them away

997
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: from bestiality, but I mean, incest is no better.

998
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: It's funny because I'm wondering that, right, I'm like, is

999
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: it better or worse to fuck a chicken than your cousin?

1000
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, in a would you rather scenario, like

1001
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: if there's some kind of objective totem pole of you know,

1002
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: sexual depravity, I don't know which one is worse. I

1003
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 3: get all right, you know what I'm just gonna say.

1004
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 3: I'm in a form an opinion on this. I think

1005
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: fucking a chicken is worse than fucking your cousin, because people,

1006
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: because there's a there's a history. I don't think it

1007
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: has ever been societally accepted to fuck chickens, but at

1008
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: some point in our timeline, it was totally societally acceptable

1009
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: to fuck your cousin. We don't go by those standards, right,

1010
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 3: it still is in some way, all right, So all right,

1011
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: so I see what they were doing. They were like,

1012
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 3: this guy is depraved. Let's you know, we're not going

1013
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: to get him to non you know, to fuck non

1014
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: cousin human people, you know, immediately, but we wean him

1015
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: off by starting him with his cousin. I don't think

1016
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 3: that that was I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this.

1017
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this. I don't think that that was

1018
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: necessarily a good strategy in practice, but I understand the

1019
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: intention behind it.

1020
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 4: Right, It's like they might have had good intentions, but

1021
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 4: the end result is still not very good.

1022
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: And I'm glad. Tell your grandmother. Is your grandmother still alive?

1023
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: She is? She is like the most important person in

1024
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 4: my life.

1025
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: Tell your grandmother that good for her for not fucking

1026
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: her cousin, because she shouldn't fuck she why, you know,

1027
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 3: just because they had this plan to get you know, well,

1028
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: the plan doesn't work because now they bring horror into

1029
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: the private because now both of them are sucking their cousin.

1030
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: So again, I guess so again, I'm not gonna say

1031
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: it's a good plan or that it was even good intentions.

1032
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: I just I understand what they were going for and

1033
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: I disagree with it.

1034
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just bad all around.

1035
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: What's your grandmother doing? Is she around? Can we talk

1036
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: to her?

1037
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: Oh? No, she's not. I live like an hour away

1038
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: from her. Okay, you'll probably kill me if you're telling

1039
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 4: this story on the internet.

1040
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, then we won't tell anyone that you're

1041
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: telling us. This will listen, Andy, Is there anything else

1042
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: you want to say to the people of the computer

1043
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: before we go?

1044
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 4: If you're fucking chickens, make sure your neighbors can't see.

1045
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding.

1046
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 4: Don't fuck chickens, and don't fuck your cousins.

1047
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: Uh, you know what? Two good sentiments to end on.

1048
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: Have a good night, lyle okay, take care In.

1049
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 6: The repeat Cat goes on the line taking your phone.

1050
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: Calls every night.

1051
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: Never beat Cant goes doing to ride. He's teaching you

1052
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: how to live your life, but he's not really an expert.