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Speaker 2: So, in terms of the evidence, there's there's.

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Speaker 1: You had previously sort of quoted the two sections where

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Speaker 1: they talk about his dark skin, you know, being pulled

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Speaker 1: tight across his face, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we also had here this sort of.

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Speaker 1: Origin story, at least again as Nick presents it, of

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Speaker 1: James Gatts who just rows himself out to a rich

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Speaker 1: guy's boat and is like, please take me, which is

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Speaker 1: like the most American.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Gatsfe really is the most American.

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Speaker 1: Guy, like of all time, you know, with the obsession

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Speaker 1: with the past, the obsession with money, everything. But I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to find this specific passage about his parents that

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Speaker 1: I do think feeds into the theory that you guys

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Speaker 1: were talking about. His parents were shiftless and unsuccessful farm peace.

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Speaker 1: His imagination, his imagination had never really accepted them as

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Speaker 1: his parents at all.

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Speaker 3: That's like such a crazy sentence.

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Speaker 2: Imagination had never accepted them as his parents. That's wild. Wow, boy,

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Speaker 2: that is wild.

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Speaker 3: And in the in the chat, Miles pointed out that

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Speaker 3: he that it's interesting that Nick describes Gatsby as having

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Speaker 3: tanned skin, but James gatz is having brown skin, adding

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Speaker 3: to the evidence.

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Speaker 1: Put it in the dossier, put it, and I think

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Speaker 1: Dare Johnson presents the simplest that if if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're a believer in this theory. The Okham's razor is

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Speaker 1: that his parents were sharecroppers. I think there is a

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Speaker 1: reference to them being from North Dakota, and then there

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Speaker 1: might be so the other one I loved, Nick said

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Speaker 1: he was surprised by the way he danced.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's yeah, that's one too. So I don't know, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: are you are you? Are you can?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously been an interesting lens to read

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Speaker 1: the reread the book through.

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Speaker 2: But are you can? Are you convinced of it?

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Speaker 1: Or like where is your head at as you are

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Speaker 1: picturing Gatsby in your mind?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's you know that the evidence is there,

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Speaker 4: right and and you know what you know when I

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Speaker 4: when I shared the article with y'all, I felt like,

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Speaker 4: what really gave this theory a lot of credence is

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Speaker 4: Fitzgerald himself said, there's been so much great commentary on

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Speaker 4: it and no one knows what it's about, right, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: So that's like poking gun there, which.

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Speaker 1: But which I love because having having been a Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 2: Guy, like that could literally just.

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Speaker 1: Be him being drunk talking ship about like he's smarter

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Speaker 1: than everyone else and book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys think you get my book.

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Speaker 1: I also think one thing that I always liked about

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is he uh he had this I forget the

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Speaker 1: exact phrase, but he was talking about how there's like

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Speaker 1: a lot of good writers, but that like he didn't

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Speaker 1: give a fuck how many books people sold, no one

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Speaker 1: was better than him words on paper, and like this

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Speaker 1: is this section is one of those ones where you're like,

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Speaker 1: the way he's describing everything, the way he's describing being

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Speaker 1: a late twenties person wondering where the potential of your

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Speaker 1: early twenties went is it is so timeless that I

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Speaker 1: chip my cat to him and say, the way that

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Speaker 1: you think of Jewish people is not timeless, sir. But

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Speaker 1: the way you think about the relationships between men and women,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Gatsby's way of being about Daisy, I

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Speaker 1: think is very.

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Speaker 2: Like we all know cats about it. Lunatict. Also, no

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Speaker 2: one can match me words on paper.

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Speaker 3: That's like the most Michael Beasley ass quote ever heard.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not the greatest, but roll the ball out.

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Speaker 2: Who's touching me can't ship? Right there? Yeah exactly. I

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Speaker 2: funk with Bees for that too, though. I'm just a

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Speaker 2: big fan of that, like, you know, whatever it.

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Speaker 1: Is, like this is this is my ship, Like this

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Speaker 1: is the one thing I could do better than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: What did you

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Speaker 1: Guys think of Gatsby's inherent bitchlessness