Speaker 1: Bonnie Jay here from in Saint Clown Posse.
Speaker 2: The Duke check me out on the Bootleg Kip podcast.
Speaker 3: All right, were rolling Man Bootleg cap Podcast special guests
Speaker 3: here one half of ICP hip Hop Legend. This guy
Speaker 3: has yo man. This Violent Jay is here from Insane
Speaker 3: Clown Posse.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: It's good to see your brother.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you man, and want you know,
Speaker 1: I appreciate being here.
Speaker 3: Man. I've been I DMD you a while ago, and
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you like, we finally made this happen
Speaker 3: because ICP, for whatever reason, was just like an integral
Speaker 3: part of my childhood. And I never was like a
Speaker 3: big fan of you guys. I was always like it
Speaker 3: was just around me, Like I never was in your
Speaker 3: guys's music. I'll say it wasn't like I was an
Speaker 3: a choir taste one hundred. I remember my cousin Zach
Speaker 3: moved from Texas to Arizona when I was probably like ten,
Speaker 3: and all he was listening to was The Great Malinko
Speaker 3: and so that album. I like, you guys had great skits.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know it was like real we got that
Speaker 3: from ice Cube. Yeah, yeah, you guys have some ill
Speaker 3: skits and then I just like I got to give
Speaker 3: you guys flowers because I do feel like you guys
Speaker 3: kick the door down for so much of the entrepreneurial
Speaker 3: ship that I don't you know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: people ever give you credit or not, but you know,
Speaker 3: whether it's the merch, the throwing you guys's own festival,
Speaker 3: like you guys been doing gathering in the juggalos. How
Speaker 3: many years.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the twenty ninth next.
Speaker 3: Almost thirty years?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like nowadays we'll see artists like Tyler the
Speaker 3: Creator do his own festival and like all but like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you guys have been doing it for so long.
Speaker 1: We've been doing this. Yeah yeah man.
Speaker 2: And this year Halloween is our thirtieth annual in Detroit.
Speaker 2: We played Halloween every year in Detroit called Hollowiki Clown Show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and this is our thirtieth year.
Speaker 3: That's crazy thirty years. Yeah man, I'm thirty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm fifty. I'm fifty one in this much.
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you something. I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 1: This is real shit.
Speaker 2: If I'd have known when I was in my twenties,
Speaker 2: they'd at fifty one my conversation with and.
Speaker 1: The way it is with my boys would be this dope.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have worried about getting old. I thought i'd
Speaker 2: be corneous, you know what I'm saying. I thought i'd
Speaker 2: be like my neighbor Tom right, just standing there, like
Speaker 2: everything he says is corneous, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I thought i'd be like him, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But my conversations are the same as when I was
Speaker 2: in my twenties.
Speaker 3: And you're toring and you're still putting out new albums.
Speaker 1: All the time. Yeah, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it's not as bad as you thought.
Speaker 2: Plus the other thing is when you know how kids
Speaker 2: they don't look at you.
Speaker 1: There's old school or whatever. You know, when you get older, you.
Speaker 2: Get wisdom, don't offend you, and you're also not afraid.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're also not interested in what they're doing
Speaker 2: because your generation is getting older too. So my heroes,
Speaker 2: Snoop and everybody, you know what I'm saying, they're all here,
Speaker 2: you know, like they're all our age. So we're still
Speaker 2: watching each other and the game continues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: But when you start off young, you think that's the
Speaker 2: only game there is is what's happening on the hottest
Speaker 2: the hot bumping off.
Speaker 1: But man, you know, tell that to Madonna.
Speaker 2: She's still killing it in her world, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, dropping the albums and well, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, look, hip hops are the newest, I mean, one
Speaker 3: of the newest genres. Right if it just turned fifty
Speaker 3: and we have what we're finally seeing the OG's become
Speaker 3: like real ogs and like.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is being fifty one.
Speaker 2: Bro, I saw the beginning of hip hop, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's the blessing.
Speaker 1: I saw the beginning of hip hop. I live on
Speaker 1: this earth with Michael Jackson Prince.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, those guys will hopefully become
Speaker 2: iconic for hundreds of years, right you know, Sana to
Speaker 2: be up here and be all as you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's cool though, but like, do you do
Speaker 3: you feel like you guys get the credit for some
Speaker 3: of the business because I feel like you guys set
Speaker 3: up some business models that other artists like. You know,
Speaker 3: I've told this to Tech nine text my brother love Tech,
Speaker 3: but I feel like Teching Strange get credit for a
Speaker 3: lot of the that y'all were doing like years prior,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I discovered Tech through
Speaker 3: you guys. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah man, me and Tech Man, we almost we
Speaker 2: almost went to war, you know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 2: because it got It was twenty seventeen, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And that was a pivotal year in the
Speaker 2: Juggalo lore because the number seventeen is everything. That's the
Speaker 2: only calendar year with seventeen in all our in the
Speaker 2: Juggles life.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So anyway, that year, we were also suing the FBI
Speaker 2: because they put us on the Ganga.
Speaker 1: They put Juggalos as a gang.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're doing a march on Washington and all
Speaker 2: this shit, right, and Tech goes on Hoigh ninety seven
Speaker 2: and he's telling stories about fictitious basically rumors. He's talking
Speaker 2: about like a raw dog line at the gathering, you know,
Speaker 2: like fifty Ninja's gang banging a chick or whatever.
Speaker 1: It ain't you know what I'm saying, That ain't true.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I've heard, I've heard of some of the weird.
Speaker 2: The gap I'm just saying, no, no, no, I'm not mad
Speaker 2: about tech no more.
Speaker 1: But the way he put it down, it wasn't it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't positive or what we were doing, you know, So.
Speaker 3: It wasn't helping when you guys had going on at
Speaker 3: that time exactly.
Speaker 2: And the other thing was we were doing a concert there.
Speaker 2: We played Rudy. Where did we play right at the
Speaker 2: Lincoln Memorial? Yeah, right, And it was a free concert, right,
Speaker 2: And I during the march we did, we marched down Washington.
Speaker 2: It's like thousands of jugglers out there. We did a
Speaker 2: march because this is we don't know how else they
Speaker 2: said in her gang it was insane, you.
Speaker 3: Guys at by twenty seventeen, you were on the gang
Speaker 3: list for years by that point, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, since eleven, since it happened in twenty eleven. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing you gotta understand, bro In certain parts
Speaker 2: of the country, when people are on the gang list,
Speaker 2: Like if a jugger log gets pulled over and he
Speaker 2: suddenly on a gang.
Speaker 1: List, you know what I'm saying, it's a problem.
Speaker 2: He might be having a custody battle for his kids, right,
Speaker 2: and his wife's ex wife.
Speaker 1: Attorney, like, this is a gang member according.
Speaker 2: To the government of the United States. Tattoo according to
Speaker 2: the government in the United States. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like this was popped up. There was a probation officer
Speaker 2: for fifteen years. Right when that gang resonate thing came out,
Speaker 2: when we made the top ten gangs, she got fired.
Speaker 2: I mean right in the pink slip. It was like
Speaker 2: we saw it on your Facebook.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're out of here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, Wow, the ruined a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 1: People were getting thrown out of the military. Bro.
Speaker 2: I always tell people told to we covered their tattoos
Speaker 2: or have them removed.
Speaker 3: I say this all the time. I say, there are
Speaker 3: real teachers teaching our kids right now with Hatchman tattoos
Speaker 3: in America.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the point was, but the had so many
Speaker 1: Juggalo fans, right.
Speaker 3: Tone, you guys share so many fans.
Speaker 2: He should have played that concert, you get you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I asked them. I felt like
Speaker 2: it was weigh in advance, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I asked them to play the concert, Like come
Speaker 2: do this, man, we're paying back. We're going through this.
Speaker 2: They're putting this on Juggalos. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: it's really lives up. We don't know how else to
Speaker 2: combat it by instead of doing this marching concert, you know,
Speaker 2: and uh we tried suing them four times that got
Speaker 2: thrown out of court.
Speaker 3: CHEWINGI yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So because you talked about merchandise and spencers and hot topics,
Speaker 2: guess when that ended.
Speaker 1: The second that game, you're like.
Speaker 2: Got here all that totally thus shit up, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, And it's like we're just chilling here
Speaker 2: and independent business artists.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It is a problem, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: what is any It's so outrageous, yet we just lost
Speaker 2: you know what I'm are you guys stowing that list?
Speaker 2: The list don't exist no more. It came out in
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, right, that was the only year they ever
Speaker 2: announced the list like that, Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You guys are on that list with like the Crips,
Speaker 3: the Bloods, probably Hell's Angel.
Speaker 1: Juggles. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Did you ever get an explanation?
Speaker 1: Why? Let me tell you something, bro.
Speaker 2: There was a book that came out right called Juggalos
Speaker 2: and we had nothing to do with this book. Right
Speaker 2: this book, there are at juggalos, I guess or sell
Speaker 2: out Jugglealos right whose career it is or was, I
Speaker 2: don't know to travel around to police departments and give
Speaker 2: a seven hour on Juggalo identification showing them all the
Speaker 2: labels in logos.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm reading this so many Juggalos and they're very, very
Speaker 3: harmless people.
Speaker 2: They're the most wonderful people, Like what the hardworking American
Speaker 2: citizens Like I don't understand what the thing is? You
Speaker 2: know what, they come from, broken homes, you know what
Speaker 2: the like? What can they do about it? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, I don't know what like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know what makes them any less.
Speaker 1: Important if anybody else.
Speaker 2: People always say, oh, the only one into this ship
Speaker 2: of the Juggalos, you know what the are Juggles people
Speaker 2: just yeah, you know what I'm saying, Just because they
Speaker 2: have a name, it's like the only one having fun,
Speaker 2: the only one, like in.
Speaker 1: ICP is people.
Speaker 3: I just met a guy. I met a guy recently,
Speaker 3: like last week. Actually, uh my boy, who's I won't
Speaker 3: even say who he is? Because you guys might know him.
Speaker 3: You guys definitely know the rapper, but his guy who's
Speaker 3: on the road of him had a I mean, he's
Speaker 3: just fully tattooed with like twisted you guys like he's
Speaker 3: fucking and I was like, oh, you're Juggalo. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'm a recovering Juggalo bro, and I was like, I
Speaker 3: never heard that. Interesting, What does that mean? I don't
Speaker 3: know he's got all the tattoos.
Speaker 2: He's just a joke. I don't know what they're covering.
Speaker 2: Juggler is covering.
Speaker 1: So if you're I.
Speaker 3: Want to put him on the tech thing because you
Speaker 3: guys are fine.
Speaker 1: Now I get it. Now he's this on us.
Speaker 2: He's saying like I used to be into that ship,
Speaker 2: but I'm off that ship or whatever.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well, when's that time you guys talked who
Speaker 3: you in tech?
Speaker 2: Well, man, we let me tell you something. Then he
Speaker 2: put out on the song he said, my name in
Speaker 2: a song. You know what I'm saying, And he's talking
Speaker 2: about Joe Bruce and I don't remember how I worded,
Speaker 2: but it sounded like a fucking disk right, So it
Speaker 2: was getting really heated up, you know, and.
Speaker 1: He we talked.
Speaker 2: I had to drive to a gas station and I
Speaker 2: just get was in my car. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I'm a taxer. He wanted he wanted to get on
Speaker 2: the phone. Yeah, so I'm like, all right, here we go,
Speaker 2: you know, three hours.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I respect the Let me say this. I respect the
Speaker 2: motherfucking shit out.
Speaker 1: Of that man.
Speaker 2: He's the best, hands down man. That motherfucker is a
Speaker 2: real one for sure. Okay, he talked sensing the meat.
Speaker 3: He's one of the realest dudes in the game. I
Speaker 3: always say that man, and he's a humble guy.
Speaker 2: He was like, Brother, you don't want Juggalos to be
Speaker 2: labeled as a gang. If me and you fall out,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they're gonna be, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Because you know, he was telling me he's he's he's
Speaker 2: with the blood, he's a blood and if we.
Speaker 1: Go to war, you know what I'm saying, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Juggalos against bloods and shit. And I just was like,
Speaker 1: darlas are fan base, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Also, they're not out here like that. This is the
Speaker 3: thing if you go to a tech show.
Speaker 1: But they are though.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they are like that.
Speaker 2: Tech was like, man, he's got motherfuckers waiting in line
Speaker 2: meet and Greek coming up and trying to swing on
Speaker 2: him and Ship big bitch.
Speaker 1: You know, he's telling.
Speaker 2: These stories to me and he's like he's getting he
Speaker 2: uh one of his shows got a bomb threat or whatever.
Speaker 1: We hadn't even fallen out right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: What what is the website even? Yeah, but you guys
Speaker 3: have a pretty dedicated internet. What is it FAO lovers
Speaker 3: dot net. They've covered some of my interviews, is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if there's if that's a website.
Speaker 3: Right right, but they but I know that they'll like
Speaker 3: speculate on ship.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't go there. I don't fun with
Speaker 1: him anymore. I used to like him, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't go there no more. I don't you know,
Speaker 1: I don't really go on any websites.
Speaker 3: But but but you guys have that three hour conversation
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 1: It was intense.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: He was like, look, man, you know, he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 2: What was he saying? And I was like, do you
Speaker 2: think I'm afraid? He like, he was like, you do
Speaker 2: not want to He said, you do not want to
Speaker 2: go to war, man, We don't want to go to
Speaker 2: war over this. And I'm like, exactly, and he said something.
Speaker 2: But I was like, do you think I'm soft?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: Do you think that's I'm afraid of that to war
Speaker 2: with you? And he said I am.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Somebody put it like he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm afraid, bro. We don't need to be
Speaker 1: doing this, you know what I mean? And it was I.
Speaker 2: Don't remember exactly, it was five years ago, but yeah,
Speaker 2: we worked it out, man.
Speaker 1: Thank god. And we worked it out of it and that.
Speaker 2: Oh, and he also put me up on game about
Speaker 2: who his whole thing because I was like, Bro, you know,
Speaker 2: you start wearing the paint. I didn't ever seen him
Speaker 2: wear the paint until halfway through the wicker Walker tour, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Not halfway through maybe like
Speaker 2: the beginning of it. But he wasn't wearing the paint
Speaker 2: at the beginning, you know. So I thought, Okay, he's
Speaker 2: doing what we're doing.
Speaker 1: That's cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So then it's now it's the thing he still does,
Speaker 2: you know. But he was telling me, man, I've been
Speaker 2: wearing paint since way before you you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: not before me, but you get what I'm saying since waving, right,
Speaker 2: He always.
Speaker 3: Kind of went by like to kill a clown, you know,
Speaker 3: back in the day exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, well he was though, you know,
Speaker 2: he he he was pictures and yeah, he put me
Speaker 2: up on the game. He told me about his history
Speaker 2: and everything, and it.
Speaker 3: Always seems like you guys had such a like a
Speaker 3: shared fan base, like if you go to a tech show.
Speaker 3: I've been to hunt like a probably fifty tech shows,
Speaker 3: and you're always going to see jugglers there.
Speaker 1: So every time.
Speaker 2: He was like, my security thinks, my security tells me,
Speaker 2: he said, my security, uh says we should just we should?
Speaker 1: What do you say?
Speaker 2: My security says, he wants to catch some ship like that, right,
Speaker 2: And I was like, fuck that dude, you know, fuck
Speaker 2: him for thinking that, you know, whatever his appointment, whatever
Speaker 2: the thing was. Anyway, So then Tech comes to Detroit
Speaker 2: on tour a State theater and and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: this is all happening, right. So anyway, we worked it
Speaker 2: out where uh me enjoying to go off on stage
Speaker 2: and introduce them you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So so we went up there and introduced
Speaker 1: them on stage.
Speaker 2: You know, but when I got to the venue, right
Speaker 2: the fuck, security fucking throws me against the wall. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, muggs Yeah, man, but and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck, y'all?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, get up.
Speaker 3: He didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 1: Probably you know, they knew, they just didn't. He was
Speaker 1: telling me his security was like, fuck them dudes, you know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, fuck them, tell them, fuck you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when I.
Speaker 2: Got there, they were rough, you know, even though I'm
Speaker 2: there to make the fucking peege.
Speaker 1: You know what's.
Speaker 3: Crazy is the last time I saw Tech was last year.
Speaker 3: We were in Detroit when I told you, and he
Speaker 3: happened to have a show across the street from where
Speaker 3: the Tigers play, right by the eminem restaurant.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, that's right where I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we went to the show and I told
Speaker 3: I told people, like, you know, I'm from Arizona, so
Speaker 3: we have a certain type of white trash. Is we
Speaker 3: have our own specific white trash, you know. But at
Speaker 3: that show. Being in the crowd at a tech show
Speaker 3: in Detroit, I got to see Detroit white trash, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I got I got it, Like
Speaker 3: I got it. I was like, oh, I get it now,
Speaker 3: Like this is like you know, auto factory, like you know,
Speaker 3: middle of America, russ belt fucking is different.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying that. I'm saying that there's I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm white trash.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3: I definitely got to see some white trash at the
Speaker 3: Tech nine show. Not all of them are white trash,
Speaker 3: but it was just it was just funny because I
Speaker 3: was just like, you know, we have our own type
Speaker 3: of white trash, Like my family's like a bunch of
Speaker 3: meth heads and like, you know, biker dudes that's like
Speaker 3: Phoenix white. Everybody white thom That's fair, you know. I
Speaker 3: was just saying that Detroit white trash was definitely hitting different.
Speaker 3: I got it. I was like, Yo, this might have
Speaker 3: been eminem if he didn't make it like standing here
Speaker 3: watching Tech nine like.
Speaker 1: You, but man, yeah he's the ship man.
Speaker 3: Really No, Tech is great, man, I'm glad you guys
Speaker 3: worked that out.
Speaker 1: I didn't even I knew you.
Speaker 3: I knew that there was some sort of like like
Speaker 3: it was out there and that you guys had it
Speaker 3: might have been an issue, but I you know, I
Speaker 3: knew it was squashed. I just didn't know the backs
Speaker 3: of how that happened. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: We were gonna go to war like that.
Speaker 2: We were gonna come at them hard, of course, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because he's so integrated.
Speaker 3: Into your world. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Saying so we weren't just gonna you know, but no,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 3: That's the first time I saw him was on the
Speaker 3: Wicked Walking, the Wicked Walker tour at Mason Amphitheater. It
Speaker 3: was what was that you guys Bone Thugs, cotton Mouth
Speaker 3: Kings and Tech Yeah, and uh yeah, And I wasn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't do none of the days you were on
Speaker 1: the fucking Halloween song with us. We doll did a
Speaker 1: song together too.
Speaker 3: But what's crazy is that that tour for like that
Speaker 3: period of time, cotton Mouth Kings were fucking huge.
Speaker 1: They had They're the unfortunate thing with them, man, I.
Speaker 3: Know that they I know that they had like a
Speaker 3: falling out like certain members.
Speaker 2: Daddy X we tried to bring them together because they
Speaker 2: were another huge state you s r H.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, no, for sure population.
Speaker 1: You can't even get two of them together.
Speaker 2: They all hate each other's insane like we did, Me
Speaker 2: and Joey, Me and Shaggy did the whole fucking episode
Speaker 2: of our podcast trying to uncover what really happened.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I've heard certain ship because I think it was like
Speaker 3: an initially like a split. And then what's the dude's
Speaker 3: name who owns Suburban Noise? Uh? I can't think of
Speaker 3: his name right now. What's the guy's name?
Speaker 1: Oh? Fuck yeah, I know his name to what the
Speaker 1: fuck singer?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, but bro, here's the thing why it's so unfortunate. Okay, Okay, look,
Speaker 2: I CP right, I ain't. Me and Shaggy never made
Speaker 2: the money we're making right now.
Speaker 3: Ever, so you guys at this moment are making the
Speaker 3: most money you've ever made.
Speaker 2: Yes, we had four albums on that chart. Bro, listen
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's nostalgia.
Speaker 1: Okay. When we had four albums on the charts.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and you guys were one
Speaker 3: going platinum in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we figured it out.
Speaker 2: We sold eight million records, crazy, and I don't know
Speaker 2: nothing about that's when.
Speaker 3: Records were here, right right right, that's when.
Speaker 1: It's been a few years since streams have been around.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to fucking do that, but I
Speaker 2: know one of our singles, hocus Pocus, just went gold and.
Speaker 3: How many years later just in streams, just in streams
Speaker 3: on its own, you know, like like in because of
Speaker 3: the TikTok shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They did like a like a thing to it, hocus Pocus,
Speaker 2: and they you know, they got these fans they do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was called lounge check.
Speaker 1: I think you know.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that ship went gold because the TikTok were like
Speaker 2: a congrats, yeah, I mean, but anyway, what I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, the reason point of this is this nostalgia
Speaker 2: man for these old groups, like like okay, let me
Speaker 2: tell you my boy Bend the Ice when he came out, right,
Speaker 2: look at how the fucking massive right then, this m
Speaker 2: Burger was hurting, right you.
Speaker 1: Get know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He was opening for us and and like he was
Speaker 2: hurting though, you know what I'm saying, like he wasn't
Speaker 2: he was just playing.
Speaker 1: Rock clubs, he was. You know what I'm saying, I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember small venues. You know what I'm saying. Years
Speaker 1: go by and look at him now. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I love their nineties tour.
Speaker 2: All of those fucking acts had to hurt for a minute.
Speaker 3: And stoked to see.
Speaker 1: Tone look Salt Pepper.
Speaker 3: Fucking that's a sick tour to see like that, like that,
Speaker 3: and that tour sell like even like Bone Thugs as well.
Speaker 2: Bone Thugs used to fucking play the small venues shots,
Speaker 2: you know, like us, our whole ICP's entire career, we
Speaker 2: play like two thousand seat.
Speaker 3: Venues except for the Wicked Wanka tour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we had all of that was crazy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You guys like, yeah about two thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So but look at the look at the nostalgia though,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like it's different now you
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying, Like, Okay, like give me an example.
Speaker 2: I give this example lot, and if anybody's watching it
Speaker 2: to hear me say this a lot, I'm sorry, Vanilla,
Speaker 2: I's fucking we used to play the festivals in the
Speaker 2: nineties in early two thousands. Right, every once in a
Speaker 2: while we get booked on a festival, there'd be like
Speaker 2: five hundred two thousand Juggalos up front the rest of
Speaker 2: the crowd literally.
Speaker 1: Bro would be like, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of cool to hate you guys.
Speaker 3: It was cool to hate you guys for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well everybody's like fuck you to hear up and down
Speaker 2: there see Cipher, so they're like, fuck y'all. You know,
Speaker 2: that was always our whole experience. We stopped doing fucking
Speaker 2: festivals for twenty years.
Speaker 3: Because it's our own ship, like the we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We do our own thing, and we're juggle load out right,
Speaker 2: We're doing our thing, and we got like we're signing bands,
Speaker 2: We're doing our thing all in our own little juggle
Speaker 2: the world or whatever, right, and fucking Vanilla Ice in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, he's like, yo, I want you to come
Speaker 2: out and do a song, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, where are you playing. I'm thinking he's
Speaker 2: gonna say the shelter, you know. He's like, I'm met,
Speaker 2: I'm at pinew you know, I'm like this is Ample Theater, Like,
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 1: He's like, I love the ninety tour. This is five
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 3: Bro, he's out there, he's been doing it.
Speaker 1: He still remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still it's still going like every.
Speaker 2: Year it is, so saying it's massive. They do multiple
Speaker 2: tours at once, you know what I'm saying. So these
Speaker 2: guys were hurting, bro, they were playing fucking small rock
Speaker 2: clubs three hundred people and look at him down, you know.
Speaker 2: And anyway, the point was he called us out and
Speaker 2: fucking the place exploded.
Speaker 1: And me and Joy are like, we're telling them be for.
Speaker 1: We're like, I used to this. Yeah, We're like, no,
Speaker 1: we told me for. We're like, you don't want to
Speaker 1: bring us out because.
Speaker 3: That because you're used to it. If the crowd's not
Speaker 3: there to see you guys thought anybody's.
Speaker 1: Booing, And he was gonna be like, what the funk?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I didn't want to
Speaker 1: heard the show. I'm like, bro, you don't want to
Speaker 1: bring us out there?
Speaker 2: You know, especially on the Island of the nineties, tore
Speaker 2: all the that we were the exact opposite of that shit.
Speaker 2: We were the wicked shit, right, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 2: We were like, fuck the radio, right right right, right,
Speaker 2: right right right right no, And I'm like, why you
Speaker 2: want to bring us out there? And He's like, come on, man.
Speaker 2: And so when when me and Shaggie cage to the
Speaker 2: front and they put us on the fucking.
Speaker 1: Screens, the whole fucking place exploded, and we.
Speaker 3: Were like, Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We hadn't done a festival
Speaker 1: in twenty years.
Speaker 2: Bro, nothing like that, just our own ship and the
Speaker 2: biggest probab we do every years to Gathering or Halloway
Speaker 2: and in front of those are like our staple events,
Speaker 2: you know. But man, we thought, you know, even when
Speaker 2: we walked the red carpet one time in the early
Speaker 2: fucking two thousands at the Billboard Awards, right, they had
Speaker 2: bleachers and fans all in the bleachers, Me and Shaggy
Speaker 2: Guy out of the limbo, they fucking food, and we
Speaker 2: were like, fuck.
Speaker 1: Y'all, what the way you're doing here? We don't go
Speaker 1: to award shows. We were like, what are we doing it? Fuck?
Speaker 1: Y'all know on the red carpet with the Backstreet.
Speaker 2: Boys, right, I never saw none of those photos either,
Speaker 2: How the fuck could those photos not show up?
Speaker 1: We were chilling with the Backstreet Boys with them as crazy.
Speaker 1: That makes no sense. It's like a dream. Where did
Speaker 1: those pictures go? They didn't.
Speaker 3: They didn't have phones.
Speaker 1: No, this is a red carpet.
Speaker 3: They're somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's no.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the gathering because it is. It
Speaker 3: is a thing. Did you ever see the Workaholics episode
Speaker 3: about that ship?
Speaker 1: Was hilarious? It was they did it good too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: There's a movie that came called Family and the character
Speaker 2: in the movie is a jugglo, right, and she goes
Speaker 2: to the gathering and they asked us to make a
Speaker 2: cameo and be like we're on stage at the right man.
Speaker 1: Me and shaggyt like, what is this gonna be? A
Speaker 1: little Rickydi ship? They've rebuilt the fucking gathering.
Speaker 3: Do you show up and you're like, oh, ship?
Speaker 2: There was a rides, carnival rides, you know, a crowd,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, tents everywhere, people on golf cards,
Speaker 2: party and ship hopfires.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how the fuck did they do that? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It was crazy and yeah it
Speaker 1: was cool though, Man, you guys.
Speaker 3: Ah, so I've had I've had lots of friends performed.
Speaker 2: I was trying to fuck the chick from uh uh Oranges,
Speaker 2: The New is Oranges the New Black in that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was me and her dog. We were fucking.
Speaker 1: She knows it. She knows that we were speaking game.
Speaker 2: And the other chick was there from Family Pie American.
Speaker 3: Pie, American Pie.
Speaker 2: She was there and she knew it too, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And she was she kept going like,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: We were just spitting game like talking like you know.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Then we talked on text for like a month
Speaker 2: and then it ended, but.
Speaker 1: We didn't keep I didn't even were speaking game like yeah,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about.
Speaker 2: Ship, interesting ship, you know what I mean. I wasn't
Speaker 2: like I'm like getting your panties. And it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Like like, hey you got a mirror in your pants because
Speaker 3: I can see myself in there.
Speaker 1: But it was dope.
Speaker 3: No, I was gonna ask you. So I've heard some Okay,
Speaker 3: so I heard at the gathering there's some crazy ship
Speaker 3: going on. I've seen video of the feet guy. Have
Speaker 3: you seen this guy? He's like the guy at the
Speaker 3: gathering who like licks all the chicks feet.
Speaker 1: No, man, I ain't seen.
Speaker 3: I've heard about the drug bridge at a certain point
Speaker 3: in time. Wasn't there a drug board a bridge where like.
Speaker 1: It was it was still a drug bridge should be.
Speaker 3: It was like a nice like safe open like everybody
Speaker 3: can go and.
Speaker 1: Get I don't know, man, I just don't want nobody to,
Speaker 1: you know, get hurt.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, of course, but this was before
Speaker 3: I think we had to worry about like petoon ship.
Speaker 3: This was obviously years ago. Yeah, exactly, yeah, and then
Speaker 3: and then our good That's why I said, allegedly, this
Speaker 3: was not a thing we did. It's not like it's
Speaker 3: not like on the festival map there was like drug bridge. No,
Speaker 3: it was just like it was like a fan thing.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: And then Yo, Jelly roll Tony told me about some
Speaker 3: sort of fuck tent or.
Speaker 1: Something that was going on.
Speaker 3: Allegedly there was a fuck tent.
Speaker 1: That's dope, was wrong.
Speaker 3: Nothing's wrong with this some in several locations, it sounds
Speaker 3: that we wouldn't look it's just wait.
Speaker 1: A minute, wait a minute, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's actually
Speaker 1: a fucking great idea fuck tent.
Speaker 2: What the fuck we can provide like six tenths on
Speaker 2: the ground, big red tents and light them up all red,
Speaker 2: right yeah, and be like and you go in there
Speaker 2: and it's just all lavish and clean, a plation going
Speaker 2: and fuck, you know, you're all in a wet tent.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Mosquitos and shit. You boys
Speaker 2: it right outside the nylon, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You can go away to the fuck tent. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You guys have a small fee.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like a like a little and then there's
Speaker 3: just like, you know, willing lovelies in there.
Speaker 1: You know, all work. It is a tent.
Speaker 3: Consenting, willing allegedly allegedly consenting juggallettes.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's actually dope, Like, that's actually
Speaker 2: a dope idea.
Speaker 3: Not a terrible idea. What's the craziest thing?
Speaker 1: But it really is a bad idea?
Speaker 3: No, it's not a bad idea. What's the craziest thing
Speaker 3: with your own eyes you've seen at the at the
Speaker 3: gathering that you can talk about allegedly that you allegedly
Speaker 3: saw with your own eyes.
Speaker 2: No, man, I allegedly nothing. The gathering is off the
Speaker 2: fucking chain, dude. I want to I want to in
Speaker 2: the middle of Ohio. Right, Bro, listen, I really advise
Speaker 2: you to go on account of this. I know you're
Speaker 2: a wise man and there's nothing worth more than experiences memories,
Speaker 2: for sure, you know what I'm saying. And you will
Speaker 2: absolutely never forget, not if you live to be a thousand.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Going to the gathering, bro, And there's absolutely no fucking danger, right, that's.
Speaker 1: The biggest misconception.
Speaker 3: Wait, didn't didn't somebody get boot off stage? It was
Speaker 3: was it Tila Tequila?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then who.
Speaker 1: Is unless you're an artist?
Speaker 3: Unless you're an they don't like you.
Speaker 1: Because what a weird thing.
Speaker 2: I just said, there's no danger And then you're like,
Speaker 2: what about unless you're an artist?
Speaker 3: Absolutely it has been rappers that they've thrown shit at.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, my heroes, Bro, I've seen I've seen some
Speaker 2: of my heroes go down and leave the stage, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like who too short?
Speaker 2: They almost got old dirty bastard off and it was
Speaker 2: I believe the last concert of his life.
Speaker 3: Wow, you had o dB at the gathering.
Speaker 1: Right before he passed away?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Were you able to talk with him
Speaker 3: when he got there?
Speaker 1: Who was up there?
Speaker 2: Somebody ran up there with o dB and was like
Speaker 2: they were throwing ship and ODB was starting to get mad,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, they throw ship, that's what they do.
Speaker 1: They're not always trying to hit you. They're just throwing ship.
Speaker 1: Looking in the air, they throw shit.
Speaker 2: There's just ship flying everywhere, you know, including at the stage.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: And some people know how to do other people like
Speaker 2: Yellow with that fucker cart.
Speaker 1: And drink it in.
Speaker 2: The place, pot cold, catching a beer on the exactly.
Speaker 2: The crowd loved it. Like he's he's saying, I got
Speaker 2: no problem with this. I'm rocking this, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And that's what you have, the kind of
Speaker 2: energy you have to have, because sometimes guys get up
Speaker 2: there and they get they want to.
Speaker 1: Thug, you know, and that is of course.
Speaker 2: The worst thing is if you talk on one juggle,
Speaker 2: everybody gathering.
Speaker 3: Up the good juggle, everyone's turning against.
Speaker 1: You're in the wrong place, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you guys, even if you're up there trying.
Speaker 2: To act like them, and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: the only ones that ever got away, we're clearly looking
Speaker 2: harder than them. Was fucking.
Speaker 1: Last year. Who played last year? The main group? I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm being so dumb. Not Suicide Boys, the other I
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: City Moore, City Mark, Yeah, City City More goes up there, Broom.
Speaker 1: They killed that fucking slate. Wow, Like that's they love
Speaker 1: that Wicked ship.
Speaker 2: City Morgan is a version of a wicked ship and
Speaker 2: Suicide Boys listen to him. They do that three six
Speaker 2: mafia ship. It's like very fucking three second suicide Boy.
Speaker 2: It's a very very three six mafia stylum.
Speaker 3: I feel like DJ Paul's kind of adopted the Juggalos
Speaker 3: American band based pretty heavily.
Speaker 2: Me and DJ Paul are actually fucking very close.
Speaker 3: He's a great guy.
Speaker 2: He's so fucking great man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We did an album together. He wouldn't stay at my house.
Speaker 2: I have my studios in my front yard, right, he
Speaker 2: wouldn't stay at my house.
Speaker 1: Big. He didn't like the woods I live. And he's
Speaker 1: like fuck that, Like what what do you think Bear's
Speaker 1: gonna jump through the window or something.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: But he's the ship man. He's so dope.
Speaker 3: I love him, man, Yo, So when you guys got
Speaker 3: put on that list. Did you notice besides getting taken
Speaker 3: out of stores, besides all of the financial ramifications that happened,
Speaker 3: Were you guys like being followed by the police ever,
Speaker 3: because I don't know, like you guys didn't never have
Speaker 3: any sort of like idea, like, Man, these motherfuckers are
Speaker 3: like making like our lives very hard, like because you know,
Speaker 3: if you're obviously you guys are.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy though?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: The A C l What is it? The A C
Speaker 1: L U.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they fucking jumped on our side, fire.
Speaker 1: Jumped on our side, and they were in the court
Speaker 1: with us and ship.
Speaker 3: Wow, straight up, that's fucking sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did a.
Speaker 2: Press press conference and everything, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It was insane, man, and we so we we did
Speaker 2: the fucking march, right, and uh, it's a publicity stunt, right,
Speaker 2: that's what it is. So we did this press run
Speaker 2: and me and shagguin some crazy shit you know, out
Speaker 2: in New York like talking about it, and it sounds
Speaker 2: like we're it sounds so fucking outrageous.
Speaker 3: Because it was.
Speaker 1: But we did like all the ship in New York,
Speaker 1: all the shows, right, and.
Speaker 2: I feel like we succeeded, like I don't like you
Speaker 2: said at the beginning, you said you don't think juggle
Speaker 2: loos get their due respector.
Speaker 3: I feel like y'all don't get your respect for I
Speaker 3: feel like your guys' business models. You guys were the
Speaker 3: first to really be fully vertical, like you guys were
Speaker 3: able to like do your own merch, throw wrestling shows,
Speaker 3: have your own festival, like these are things that like,
Speaker 3: first of all, like everybody's doing nowadays.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, rap trivia for anybody out
Speaker 2: there listening, I'm gonna name four labels. Okay, let's see
Speaker 2: Loop Records, Wrap a Lot Records, Death Jam Records, Death
Speaker 2: Row Records, Insane Clown Posse was signed A one.
Speaker 1: Does anybody know what? Yes? Yeah, it was were How
Speaker 1: ridiculous does that sound now? I remember me. It's just
Speaker 1: like I remember fucking Lee or Cohen was It was
Speaker 1: a streaming in my face.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, tell me about that row like a thought.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine Lee or Cohen getting you guys.
Speaker 1: I don't think he did.
Speaker 2: But I remember we were supposed to do these branch visits.
Speaker 2: When we're on tour, we go into we're in a
Speaker 2: New Jersey branch for the label, and we meet everybody,
Speaker 2: you know, and we were sniffing that ship. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We just didn't want to keep doing that.
Speaker 2: We're tired and ship, you know, so we're just not anyway.
Speaker 2: We got to New York man and he fucking he
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 3: You did.
Speaker 5: You're from the street. I'm from the fucking street, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And it was just like you know,
Speaker 5: and then he was like, now let's get to business.
Speaker 5: He was like, I'll get you anybody. He was all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, was cool as fuck.
Speaker 2: He's like, we can get anybody you fucking want on
Speaker 2: a record, on a record, right, you.
Speaker 1: Name it, it's happening, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it went from I thought, I'm about to fight
Speaker 2: this dude, right so now I don't.
Speaker 1: Want to fuck the dude.
Speaker 3: I just boss. I was gonna say, who who ended
Speaker 3: up bringing you guys into the label? Like who was
Speaker 3: the know?
Speaker 1: What happened was we were on.
Speaker 3: Island Island and then I and then Island right okay.
Speaker 1: And then Island was gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they kind of inherited you guys.
Speaker 2: I remember walking through the opposite death Jam right, and
Speaker 2: people are like, what is this Halloween?
Speaker 3: The whole label because they had no idea they yet it.
Speaker 1: Was just like, what the fuck is what's happening?
Speaker 2: And here's the funny thing, right, we sold two million
Speaker 2: albums for fucking Island.
Speaker 1: Right, our next our next album is platinum?
Speaker 2: Right we do we do a double album and they
Speaker 2: both almost go gold. Right now? They just deaf jam.
Speaker 2: Let's they just let the contract expire.
Speaker 1: We didn't get dropped, will you guys did that? They
Speaker 1: didn't re sign.
Speaker 3: I remember you guys dropped two albums on the same day, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You guys did that before, huh no, because it was
Speaker 3: two different albums to buy both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you guys.
Speaker 3: Did that before Nelly because Nelly did it. But like y'all, really,
Speaker 3: I think you guys are the first people to be like,
Speaker 3: oh man.
Speaker 2: We did it, we did we did it because he
Speaker 2: did it. Oh well, the judgment the album. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, he did night and day and back
Speaker 2: in the day and just clocked on everybody.
Speaker 3: You know, it's because your fans are gonna just buy one.
Speaker 3: They're gonnay and why would you combine them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah, here we are, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And they just let our contract expire.
Speaker 1: So suddenly we signed with another label for fucking million dollars.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 2: The label was a new a new label, right, and
Speaker 2: they were called.
Speaker 3: D three D three is they had old dirty bastard
Speaker 3: they had? Uh they is that Quincy Jones Son? Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm tripping QD three That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: But man, it just was the same because they that
Speaker 1: Jim could have like sold us to.
Speaker 2: Another label if they didn't want us, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, or got some override, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like here you guys can have, but we're getting points.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what I mean? Right, better for you.
Speaker 1: They didn't even I don't think they even knew. Our
Speaker 1: attorney was like.
Speaker 2: Yo, it's two weeks, def Jam hasn't resigned yet, you know.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, yo, it's a week you know.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, no, they didn't resign, right, And
Speaker 2: he's like, don't say nothing. He's like, don't say anything.
Speaker 2: We'll let a week pass and then we'll notify him.
Speaker 3: We're leaving.
Speaker 2: We're going, you know what I mean, not that we
Speaker 2: wanted to leave, it's just we Yeah, they just became everything,
Speaker 2: can you.
Speaker 3: I feel like you guys did such a great job
Speaker 3: of branding because I remember all like like there was
Speaker 3: like the series of albums where all of the covers
Speaker 3: were very similar. Then you'd open the book and the
Speaker 3: CDs were all very similar. Like you guys had like
Speaker 3: very dope branding, like every album had a different and
Speaker 3: then the jersey would go with it or the shirt
Speaker 3: who Because I do feel like, you know, on the
Speaker 3: marketing side, you guys were amazing. Who was kind of
Speaker 3: the brainchild behind like some of the early like ship
Speaker 3: that you guys would come up with, maybe whether it
Speaker 3: be like, hey, we got to make sure this line
Speaker 3: of albums are consistent with the art and the CDs
Speaker 3: all kind.
Speaker 1: Of go again. I know this much.
Speaker 2: Doing that ship back then is the reason we still
Speaker 2: move physical units today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I'm.
Speaker 2: If their collectors it's like people that people always are
Speaker 2: gonna wonder what you're gonna do, you know, like we'll
Speaker 2: put like a fucking pair of three D glasses in
Speaker 2: there and put all kinds of crazy shit in there
Speaker 2: and we put a booklet with like mazes and funny.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys had the mazes on the front.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like you can pull shit out and
Speaker 2: make a piece of dice and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just cool, like.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we we include we do it like that
Speaker 2: and try to do really good packaging.
Speaker 1: And to our benefit.
Speaker 2: That comes from back in the day though any you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know where that comes from. We are that's just always
Speaker 1: done it like that.
Speaker 3: You know, you just always kind of had a knack
Speaker 3: for like.
Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, it's the best way of putting
Speaker 1: it in.
Speaker 3: Can you give me the origins of the hatchet Man logo? Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: that everyone has tattooed.
Speaker 2: In the very beginning, Me and Joey, Me and Shaggy.
Speaker 2: He's like, we had two we had two ideas.
Speaker 1: For the label name.
Speaker 2: One was one was a great name, mad paper Boy, right,
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Speaker 2: A fucking newspaper, like like like the game, and we
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Speaker 2: was known as money because there was a fucking paper
Speaker 2: boy used to come through looking like fucking the Napoleon
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Speaker 2: I thought that would have been cool. The other one
Speaker 2: was psychopathic, you know, the same idea, but now it's
Speaker 2: just a guy with it instead of a paper He's got, uh,
Speaker 2: the hatchet man, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: back to the interview. It's crazy because I mean, thousands
Speaker 3: upon thousands of people have tattoos that you guys, do
Speaker 3: you remember the year that you first noticed, like, cause
Speaker 3: that's got when artists get like have fans that are
Speaker 3: that dedicated, it's I can only imagine how trippy has
Speaker 3: got to be when it first happens, like, Yo, this
Speaker 3: guy's got us tattooed on them, Like, do you remember
Speaker 3: like when you guys first started to notice that you
Speaker 3: guys's fans were that dedicated? Because that's a level of
Speaker 3: commitment that man, what, well, what do.
Speaker 2: You say to a ninja walks up to you, pulls
Speaker 2: your shirt off in his entire back. You know, it's
Speaker 2: all fucking in his whole body and sometimes, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, what do you say?
Speaker 1: Right? How do you even react to that?
Speaker 2: That's just something it It's like the type of person
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: It makes me uncomfortable a ping of a ping of heart,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Or whatever the fuck term is, right, because I don't
Speaker 2: know how to fuck to you know, respond to that?
Speaker 1: It's so stunning.
Speaker 3: Are you are you used to it yet? Because at
Speaker 3: this point we're.
Speaker 2: Talking I'll never be used to that, and I'll never
Speaker 2: understand it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to say the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: I love the fucking devotion and dedication. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But me, I, I you know I would One thing
Speaker 2: I don't like doing, I'm not. I don't like signing
Speaker 2: my name for an autograph.
Speaker 3: Because because they'll get a tattoo on a hottie.
Speaker 1: I don't want that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, if you are my woman, I don't
Speaker 2: want that Ninja's name.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin your love life five years
Speaker 3: from now.
Speaker 1: No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not used especially you know, I'm not gonna do
Speaker 2: it to any I don't like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We signed it so I
Speaker 1: can get a tattoo.
Speaker 2: Fuck No, you know, but if if, if a dude
Speaker 2: wants that, whatever, Man, I just I just don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck myself. I don't give a fuck about an autograph, right,
Speaker 2: I don't have No, I don't have any pictures of
Speaker 2: any me and anybody.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I can imagine bro.
Speaker 1: The only person that.
Speaker 2: Ever, the only person that ever made me uh shaggy
Speaker 2: nervous to me was when we met Vince McMahon.
Speaker 1: Hey throw our fucking mouths.
Speaker 2: Dried out, like we were both like and he was like, hey,
Speaker 2: who won the grim tim contest? You know, and that
Speaker 2: was like a contest we were having back then, you know,
Speaker 2: and we just looked at you.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember you guys coming out. I mean, you
Speaker 3: guys are for people. I mean, I'm a huge wrestling fan,
Speaker 3: and you guys are also very heavily uh aligned in
Speaker 3: the wrestling world. You guys have had your own the
Speaker 3: Juggalo wrest what is it? Yeah, yeah, you guys have
Speaker 3: had your own wrestling federations.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, we've been at WWE.
Speaker 3: You guys have been in w W, W E, c W.
Speaker 2: Bro before I forget you want to hear something crazy
Speaker 2: my girlfriend three weeks ago. Yeah, She's like, I had
Speaker 2: a dream You're on stage with Roseanne Barr And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I like, would I be doing on stage rose An Bar?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And it happened, bro, what in the last three weeks?
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna post the text because she sent me
Speaker 2: that in a text. Wow, I'm gonna post the text
Speaker 2: with the you can see. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: I'm put the date. Maybe you just have to believe me.
Speaker 2: I guess unless it's some we're on the phone, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I'm gonna show.
Speaker 1: The fucking tack the date right and then the picture.
Speaker 3: How did you end up on stage with Roseanne?
Speaker 1: I did a podcast for some comedian friends.
Speaker 3: With did you is it Wizard in Vegas?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Skankfest?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, bro?
Speaker 3: Roseanne is a legend. It was in same that's sick.
Speaker 2: Man, I didn't get I played Seattle the night before. Okay,
Speaker 2: no sleep at all, no sleep, flew in, had to
Speaker 2: meet my girlfriend, deal with all this ship in the morning.
Speaker 1: No sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm going to I have
Speaker 2: no fucking idea, you know. They're just like, come on
Speaker 2: this gang.
Speaker 1: First, you know.
Speaker 2: And I thought it would be podcasts in like a
Speaker 2: hotel or something.
Speaker 1: And I didn't have.
Speaker 2: No idea, and they're just lead me through and it's
Speaker 2: just getting more lit and more lit. And there's a
Speaker 2: fucking boxing ring with two hotties slugging it out and
Speaker 2: foot and there's like tiers of people hanging over the
Speaker 2: edge and whatever, and then they lead me through and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden there's like what had to be
Speaker 2: like probably a thousand people in this room, in.
Speaker 1: This huge, crazy sham leaders beautiful Vegas. Shit.
Speaker 2: You know, the fucking people are streaming Rabbit and it's
Speaker 2: just a table in the chairs and they're doing on podcasts,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and the place is doing nuts.
Speaker 1: And then they call Roseanne up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And then they.
Speaker 2: Call me up and I'm sitting next to fucking Roseanne.
Speaker 3: That'll be on YouTube if it's not already on YouTube. Son, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sitting next to Roseanne, and it's like, how the fuck?
Speaker 2: And all I've been eating all morning is mushrooms?
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: I swear you got some rooms. I got pound the
Speaker 3: shrooms right over here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how hard are we even looking for rooms? Last week?
Speaker 3: I got a whole pound for you if you want it.
Speaker 2: Ever since I went to fucking Skankfest. I listen, brother, you.
Speaker 3: Man, there's like three pounds in that trash back. But
Speaker 3: bring your shrewming. You're fucking having a time. And then
Speaker 3: rose sitting there, no sleep, no.
Speaker 2: Sleep, and I get up there everybody's up on this
Speaker 2: stage drinking and passing blunts, and I'm like, double hat
Speaker 2: and coat, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's two in the afternoon and it's just as lit.
Speaker 2: And when we do the podcast, it's so lit, right Ben,
Speaker 2: They're like, we'll take it to the green room.
Speaker 1: So I'm going through this packed crowd.
Speaker 2: Everybody's party is music, bitches dancing, everybody's smoke blown weed
Speaker 2: in his finance establishment.
Speaker 1: They take me in the green room and it's the
Speaker 1: exact same.
Speaker 2: Fucking li just lit it just let in the green
Speaker 2: room and it's dark and there's a DJ, and there's
Speaker 2: food anywhere.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's the fucking difference, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: I've taken had pictures all everywhere out there, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: green room. When you relax in the green room, I'm
Speaker 2: going it's worse, you know what I'm just.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask about the wrestling tip man, like
Speaker 3: you know, like you said you you guys, I remember
Speaker 3: seeing you guys come out as like like on I
Speaker 3: want to say, was it on raw back?
Speaker 1: And right man? I took a stone Colt stunner, brother.
Speaker 3: You took a stunner fucking yes right there. Sometimes I
Speaker 3: think he's behind your head.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I think it's I'm lying to myself. I'm like,
Speaker 2: is that true? Yes, man, brother, you want to hear
Speaker 2: the story.
Speaker 1: Yes. He was like.
Speaker 2: When we first met Stone Cold in w W, he
Speaker 2: was like, he sat down by me and Joey and
Speaker 2: the arena and nobody's in there yet, and we just
Speaker 2: He's like, kind of music, You're like, I answered him.
Speaker 2: Then he's like, what kind of you hunt? I'm like no,
Speaker 2: and he's like, basically we.
Speaker 1: Had nothing, nothing in common with Stone Cold.
Speaker 2: Nothing, And it was just like in this so anyway,
Speaker 2: like probably two months or a month later, two months whatever,
Speaker 2: he's like, all right, you know how to take a stunner?
Speaker 2: And I said yes. He said, all right, listen, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna come out there. First thing I'm gonna do is
Speaker 2: kick you in the stomach and give you a stunner.
Speaker 2: Or no, he said, the first thing I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: is kick him in the stomach and give him a stunner.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pop. I'm turning around and you know you
Speaker 2: got it. I'm like, yeah, I'm number two, I got it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so he's like, you know, okay, and he's like,
Speaker 1: are you sure you got it? And I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2: So then we go to the gorilla position. We're about
Speaker 2: to go out there, and he's like, hey, man, are
Speaker 2: you sure you know you know? Do you know how
Speaker 2: to take a stunt? I'm like, yeah, bro, I got it.
Speaker 1: He goes.
Speaker 2: So we go out there and first person he kickses me,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So we get it out of order.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wasn't even expected.
Speaker 2: And I'm like all halfway turning around and shit, because
Speaker 2: I'm still thinking, we gotta look like you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And I'm just like, oh, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And I took it off shitty, but I tried,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I'm just thinking I wanted.
Speaker 3: Did did Shaggy take it better than you?
Speaker 1: Did he take it?
Speaker 3: Did Shaggy take the stunner better than you did?
Speaker 1: Took everything better better than me? But Shaggy didn't take
Speaker 1: the stonnach Oh he didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kicked the guy from the Headbangers, Okay, gave
Speaker 2: him a stunner.
Speaker 1: You know, he was whatever. But anyway, yeah, it was doped.
Speaker 1: That's sick.
Speaker 3: So you got to hang out with Vince, you got
Speaker 3: to hang out with Stone Cold, take a fucking stunt,
Speaker 3: but you got to chop it up with him for
Speaker 3: a second him say hi.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. And after that, every week we see
Speaker 1: him in the hallway and say, were.
Speaker 3: You guys coming out, like when you guys did the
Speaker 3: e c W thing? Was this after they joined w
Speaker 3: W E or was this prior like in the e
Speaker 3: c W days? Say it again, like when you you
Speaker 3: said you came out at e c W, right, was
Speaker 3: this prior to them joining the conglomerate or was this
Speaker 3: so this is like independent?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hot where all the stars came from? Sab Sandman,
Speaker 1: you know, was this in Philly? Yeah? At the at
Speaker 1: the e c W arena?
Speaker 3: Sick?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, did you guys Paul Hayman?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love po I love him too.
Speaker 3: He's my favorite. I think he's like my favorite character.
Speaker 3: I think he's the greatest manager ever.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably the most talented man in pro wrestling.
Speaker 3: The best mic work ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you see his promo recently where he was crying
Speaker 3: outside of Roman Reigns locker room?
Speaker 1: No, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: It's art.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything lately. It's good, is it? So
Speaker 1: he's gone? This is gone now right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? They sold to but yeah the company, so they
Speaker 3: put a big it's like a UFC and WW are
Speaker 3: now owned. I think it's they have a t KO
Speaker 3: is the name of the parent company. And uh, I
Speaker 3: think it's better if Triple H is running things personally.
Speaker 3: I like what Triple H does?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Right, So are you guys still throwing indie shows every
Speaker 3: once in a while?
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's been the big I'm with Billy Corgan's NWA
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Oh that's sick. I'm gonna say for you guys, because
Speaker 3: you guys actually have like wrestling DVDs out and shit
Speaker 3: like if people ever want to go like, there's is
Speaker 3: It was a.
Speaker 1: Juggler World Order j c W Championship Wrestling.
Speaker 3: What was the biggest wrestler that you guys were able
Speaker 3: to have?
Speaker 1: Kind of Well, we have Ric Flair at the gathering,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You guys brought Rick Flair to the gallery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: What did he think of that ship?
Speaker 2: He was supposed to host all night right, and he
Speaker 2: went out there one time, he went out there another
Speaker 2: time a fucking big ass pop almost hit him. He
Speaker 2: was like, thank you very much, the.
Speaker 3: Fuck out of here, Yeah, he was. I'd be like, yo,
Speaker 3: before you leave, Caul, you just give me one chop
Speaker 3: to the chest, bro, Like can I take my shirt off?
Speaker 3: And can you make me pink real quick? Drop the
Speaker 3: fuck out of me?
Speaker 1: Pause? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: No, I would love to meet him. I've met a
Speaker 3: lot of wrestlers. I've interviewed a lot of wrestlers, but
Speaker 3: I haven't met Ric Flair man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it'd be nice.
Speaker 3: It's nice to see him have this like rejuvenation in
Speaker 3: hip hop culture, like you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 3: there's like the Griselda guys, and then obviously off set
Speaker 3: it's got the Rick Flair Drip and ship and now
Speaker 3: he's selling weed called Rick Flair Drip. It's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's amazing. I wanted to ask you
Speaker 3: for for you guys, because I had Bizarre on the
Speaker 3: show maybe a year ago, man, maybe seven or eight
Speaker 3: months ago, and Bizarre gave you guys a lot of
Speaker 3: love and respect and flowers. Yeah, but you guys had
Speaker 3: the beef right, Yeah, and you guys were beefing with
Speaker 3: Eminem when he was the biggest rapper in the world, right,
Speaker 3: and that had to be interesting, great publicity for you guys.
Speaker 3: A lot of new people discovered you guys through that.
Speaker 3: So what was that? Like? How serious? Because you guys
Speaker 3: are in the same city, each of you guys. I'm
Speaker 3: sure I wrapped up with some serious guys. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, So it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't like I always tell people, the problem wasn't us
Speaker 2: in Eminem. It was our camps, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: running into each other.
Speaker 1: That was the problem.
Speaker 3: It was like almost like the entourages kept, That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, throwing fire on the flames.
Speaker 2: Our guys go all out juggler everywhere, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: psychopathic everywhere, you know. And yeah, man, you know that
Speaker 2: was what was Stelle. But but man, like, like you know,
Speaker 2: the thing is, what was.
Speaker 1: What was the point?
Speaker 2: I can say you could go to like I could
Speaker 2: back then, I could go to an Eminem show, right and.
Speaker 1: Where icy p ship where a kid get beat up,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, at an Eminem concert, And if he had.
Speaker 3: Other way around though, yes, what I'm saying, if somebody
Speaker 3: were eminem arena.
Speaker 2: That's an arena, right, we're in a small club. You know,
Speaker 2: what's the other way around, don't.
Speaker 1: Icy?
Speaker 2: But you know, thankfully everything's cool, you know. And I
Speaker 2: remember Proof making squashing the beef. You know, seem like
Speaker 2: he was a peacekeeper for a lot of He was
Speaker 2: so dope.
Speaker 1: For coming over and squashing the beef. Man rest in peace. Proof.
Speaker 1: He was so dope, Like I was so.
Speaker 2: Happy to be an honor to be including in that
Speaker 2: because he was squashing M's beef with.
Speaker 1: The royal names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he squashes me with Royce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was squashing beef with because M was going
Speaker 2: on back then dropping crazy names, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And he was beeping with a lot of underground rappers
Speaker 3: like Dilating and ever Last and yeah, em had some
Speaker 3: random beefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, And when he came to the office
Speaker 2: and ship and then we went bowling and drinking.
Speaker 3: You went bowling with him with D twelve with D
Speaker 3: twelve so with the crew against I CP.
Speaker 1: Wow, So that was our crew.
Speaker 3: That's dope.
Speaker 1: It was dope.
Speaker 3: More rappers should first we were at a concert that ship.
Speaker 3: That's how people should resolve things. Let's hang out and
Speaker 3: let's fucking bowl man shout out to Shan was in
Speaker 3: the bill.
Speaker 1: Then that's right.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. Fago is very much a thing
Speaker 3: that I only knew about because of y'all. Like my
Speaker 3: whole life, I didn't know fagel was a real thing.
Speaker 3: I always thought it was just your guys' drink, right,
Speaker 3: didn't know it was a thing. I mean really, later on,
Speaker 3: I've I've found out. Like when I grew up in like,
Speaker 3: you know, certain liquor stores would carry like exotic snacks
Speaker 3: on the West Coast, they'd have fago. And then we
Speaker 3: go to Detroit and any liquor store you walk into
Speaker 3: there's like fifty flavors. It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Did they ever give you guys a piece of a
Speaker 3: company with us?
Speaker 1: That's insane. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: The only thing they ever did for us, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: was give us a Fago machine in our office. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you it was something else. That's here's
Speaker 2: why they did it, right, Not because you guys are
Speaker 2: oh you're ICP, you know, do you know? It's because
Speaker 2: all they know is we're probably the biggest customer.
Speaker 3: Because you guys so all the who else buys.
Speaker 2: More fagel what like we do other than maybe grocery departments,
Speaker 2: But we're right in there, and they probably put Fago
Speaker 2: machines in the grocery departments all the time too.
Speaker 1: They think we're one of them. They don't funk.
Speaker 3: When you guys were launching, they're massively in Detroit, Detroit.
Speaker 1: We are obviously helping these motherfuckers massively.
Speaker 3: So when you guys are you guys are launching all
Speaker 3: these two leaders and we're paying for them to.
Speaker 1: Try to talk to them.
Speaker 2: We have an attorney talk to them like, look, man,
Speaker 2: let's do something, you know, like just put out like
Speaker 2: a clown cola or something a special Let's do a special.
Speaker 1: Cover for people that want it. Motherfucker, you sell out.
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to put it in grocery stores
Speaker 2: will buy them.
Speaker 1: But let's work together.
Speaker 3: So they never even gave you. They don't even let
Speaker 3: us use.
Speaker 2: Their name in as not ridiculous what I'm saying, we
Speaker 2: all throw a fucking bomb in a place.
Speaker 1: Allegedly.
Speaker 3: No, that is crazy, because I don't think I think
Speaker 3: why don't they work with us?
Speaker 2: I think a fog you're the fangels.
Speaker 1: Thrown and sold. What the fuck? They better work with
Speaker 1: us and.
Speaker 3: Suck from the back from the back, on the back,
Speaker 3: from the back backwards twice. Yeah, that's crazy. So you
Speaker 3: guys were buying all those two leaders, they weren't giving
Speaker 3: them to you.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, we're getting them whatever the charging.
Speaker 3: You know, I always wondered, right when you guys like
Speaker 3: would map out your tours?
Speaker 1: You have to have semis well, No, I was, I was.
Speaker 3: I was just curious, like you guys map out your tours.
Speaker 3: Is there like a like the venue knows, like, hey,
Speaker 3: look man, at the end of this show, you better
Speaker 3: have a clean up crew because it's gonna be sticky.
Speaker 1: Of course, no, because.
Speaker 3: You guys were launching.
Speaker 2: Man used to be walking. I never listen to this.
Speaker 2: We did back when all we had was Detroit. We
Speaker 2: were we had not popped anywhere. We fucking ran Detroit though,
Speaker 2: including Toledo, which is.
Speaker 1: Like an hour right, you know what I mean from Detroit.
Speaker 2: So this Toledo radio station is doing a festival.
Speaker 1: This is like fucking ninety four. They're doing a festival.
Speaker 2: But we're this massive local thing, right right, So they
Speaker 2: put us on this festival with Coolio Outcasts.
Speaker 1: I don't remember right now, too short, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And we're on there.
Speaker 2: And we got Fagel half the fans you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Juggalos, you know what I mean. But there
Speaker 2: was a lot of fucking Juggalos in there, you know.
Speaker 2: And it was hype. But Outcast was like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck You've got Fago all over our fucking turntables, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They were like, yeah, I feel them. No, No, we
Speaker 3: had a fam Where the fuck are they these guys
Speaker 3: throwing soda dressed like clowns? What is going on in
Speaker 3: fucking Toledo?
Speaker 1: Straight up, they surrounded us.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, so out Casts they got mad.
Speaker 3: So you guys had.
Speaker 2: They walked up on us, you know, with a message
Speaker 2: one dude could have said, but they sent fifteen to.
Speaker 3: Say, Hey, you guys gotta pay for these turntables. Huh.
Speaker 3: You guys bought a new turntable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to buy a new equipment for him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's the right thing to do. Yeah, of course, what's
Speaker 3: the best flavor of Fago?
Speaker 2: Allegedly, That's what I'm saying one guy could have said
Speaker 2: that said that, No.
Speaker 3: For sure, you know what I'm saying. But what's your
Speaker 3: favorite flavor of fago?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: And this is assuming that they suck your dick from
Speaker 3: the back and apologize. I like grape grape, that's pretty basic.
Speaker 3: What was the one that we had that was like blue?
Speaker 1: No, you missed?
Speaker 2: No, bro, my favorite favorite is And then then I
Speaker 2: think his genius is it's called firework.
Speaker 1: That's the one.
Speaker 3: It's like a bomb pop bomb pop that shit fire
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 2: Know how that became a pop fagel ran a contest?
Speaker 1: Think of a flavor you know what I'm saying. Somebody
Speaker 1: sent that in.
Speaker 2: That's a dope fucking idea, a bomb pop and has
Speaker 2: some fucking whatever.
Speaker 3: We were in Detroit and like I remember, we probably
Speaker 3: bought like nine bottles of Fago just to try. We're like, bro,
Speaker 3: We're never like this is crazy. We've never seen so
Speaker 3: many random flavors of soda. And like all the rappers
Speaker 3: are like, you gotta try to cream peach.
Speaker 2: They got Moon missed, Red Rock and Rye. You know
Speaker 2: they got Rock and Rise.
Speaker 3: Moon missed was good?
Speaker 1: Well, Rock and.
Speaker 2: Rise, Doctor Pepper. Moon miss is is Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't moon missed. I'm thinking of the blue one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but the one he said, how cool is it to
Speaker 3: see Drake wearing y'all ship because because the rest of all, I.
Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck what anybody says.
Speaker 2: I don't believe Drake wore that, having ever even heard
Speaker 2: any of our music.
Speaker 1: I think he wore that as a fashion thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I don't doubt that, because I think that's
Speaker 2: what's happening.
Speaker 3: I don't think that over time.
Speaker 2: You know, we're old school and you know people you know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've seen in a fashion magazine and ice P shirt
Speaker 2: for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: It was like ripped, like you guys get old. It
Speaker 1: was like a fucking vintage one.
Speaker 3: It was a vintage one.
Speaker 1: Huh No, it was like fashion. It was the design
Speaker 1: of the shirt.
Speaker 3: You know, you get me to get a piece of
Speaker 3: some company.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that, like like it's a it's
Speaker 1: a fashion thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like Drake had the was it the jersey?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: Was Drake wearing a jersey.
Speaker 2: A ring a ring master jersey, which is our second album. Okay,
Speaker 2: come on, like like the second Joker's card.
Speaker 1: You know, what the fuck is Drake doing wearing that?
Speaker 3: But but I mean, it's gotta feel kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Though. Let me tell you something else that makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Llo cool j right, just did his tours doing his tour, right,
Speaker 1: he has the wall behind him. What's on the wall?
Speaker 1: You've seen it?
Speaker 3: A bunch of names? Right, your name's on there, my name,
Speaker 3: just your name, just mine, not Shaggy, not ICP.
Speaker 1: In the fuck. You know what I'm saying. I've never met.
Speaker 2: Ellll in my motherfucking life. I listened to his station
Speaker 2: all day every day. I've never heard a blip of
Speaker 2: our ship. And we are nineties to the fucking.
Speaker 1: Core, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, why
Speaker 1: is my name on that wall? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It makes no fucking sense.
Speaker 3: You don't feel like it's it's dope to see you
Speaker 3: get some acknowledgement.
Speaker 1: But I think it's like.
Speaker 2: An accident or like, you know, let me tell you
Speaker 2: where I think it came from.
Speaker 1: All right, what was that magazine? Does he Rudy? Was
Speaker 1: it the New York Times? In New York?
Speaker 2: It was it was not a magazine, a newspaper, right,
Speaker 2: I think it was a newspaper.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it could also be his graphic guy
Speaker 3: as a Juggalo.
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: This newspaper came out and it did a story the
Speaker 2: fifty greatest Voices in Hip Hop, and it's like, you're
Speaker 2: you were on there and they he asked, I was
Speaker 2: on the list, you know what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 2: was just like, and at the same time, I would
Speaker 2: I did that interview for that big newspaper.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You get what I'm saying is when that tour started.
Speaker 2: And I saw my name on the wall, might have
Speaker 2: been that, and I'm just like, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: going on with that?
Speaker 3: You know? I mean they also might you know.
Speaker 1: It's such icp true, you know what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: both true, you know.
Speaker 3: But for you, like I always, like you said, man, like,
Speaker 3: when you think of juggalos, historically, it's the outcasts of society.
Speaker 3: It's people, you know, a lot of people are from
Speaker 3: broken homes. A lot of you know, most of the
Speaker 3: people who I know from Azy who were juggalos were just.
Speaker 1: That doubles come from pain. Man.
Speaker 3: It was never it was never the cool thing to wear.
Speaker 3: It was always like, oh those are juggalos, you know.
Speaker 3: But to have Drake, who's like the biggest rapper on
Speaker 3: the planet rocking your guys, it's almost crazy how full
Speaker 3: circle that is, Like it's an honor.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got like I don't remember, but it's
Speaker 2: like three hundred million followers or something on that.
Speaker 3: Do you guys see a spike in merch sales?
Speaker 1: Three hundred fucking million? The thing is, it just looks
Speaker 1: cool though, for sure, Like it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't you guys.
Speaker 3: You guys really have.
Speaker 2: Very well possibility. He might have fashion and just who
Speaker 2: work for him and.
Speaker 3: Just get vitage jersey.
Speaker 1: Yeah man or just whatever. You know, you ever heard it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: He just yeah, I just don't think it has anything
Speaker 2: to do with our music.
Speaker 3: What kind of pop was that for you?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: Did you guys see any like spike in merch sales?
Speaker 1: Not that I know, you know, everybody's mean meaned it
Speaker 1: out in the juggler world.
Speaker 3: I bet they have. And then post Malone too, shout out.
Speaker 3: I think the post notes who you guys are? He's
Speaker 3: got a post post notes, shaggy post.
Speaker 2: I would love to put me post Post is probably
Speaker 2: one of my top three favorite artists.
Speaker 3: Yo, can you educate me right now? Oh? Post is amazing,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm it's really hard for him to make
Speaker 3: a bad song. I say, he's just he's just such
Speaker 3: a talented, such.
Speaker 1: A good dude.
Speaker 3: It seems super super sweet guy.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Can you? Did you guys? Because I again I'm not
Speaker 3: you know, I told you this off day, off the air.
Speaker 3: I was never like a big fan of your guys' music,
Speaker 3: but I'm very aware of you guys and your your universe.
Speaker 3: You know, did you get twisted ever? Squash your guys?
Speaker 3: Is the civil war of the juggalo world?
Speaker 1: No fuck Twisted Day? I die? Really them? Fuck them?
Speaker 1: Fuck them. I ain't never been betrayed harder in my life.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a fucking physical pain the way
Speaker 1: those motherfuckers betrayed me.
Speaker 3: Because you guys did put them on, like literally gave
Speaker 3: them a fan base.
Speaker 2: I gave them the name right. They didn't have pain
Speaker 2: on they were two other rappers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We signed them, put the pain on, created them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They got insane talent. You know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 2: we created that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Like it was. It was.
Speaker 3: What was the what was the betrayal of the fact
Speaker 3: that they, like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, they they were dropping end bombs everywhere in the wraps,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, and we're like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck are y'all doing?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? We had to fucking hone
Speaker 1: them in, you know what I'm saying, Because they're talented
Speaker 1: as fuck.
Speaker 2: They were talented as fuck, you know, we had to
Speaker 2: hone them in and they're just dumb and wild style,
Speaker 2: you know. But we fucking showed them how to douce,
Speaker 2: show them how to market, showed them all that shit,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and and brung them on
Speaker 2: tour the first time we ever built ourselves up to
Speaker 2: go on a national tour and a bus. They were
Speaker 2: in the motherfucker opening, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 2: just gave them love.
Speaker 1: At first, the Jugglers were like when they.
Speaker 2: Came out to got two other guys in clown for
Speaker 2: the Juggalos were.
Speaker 5: Like, fuck you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And we took us.
Speaker 3: Years, you know what I mean for them to accept them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, we were like, these are our boys. We're putting
Speaker 2: them out psychopathic, you know what i mean. And still
Speaker 2: people couldn't understand the idea of Juggalos being something different
Speaker 2: than ICP.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to bring it. Then you guys had
Speaker 1: like a and it was a fat of skinny guy
Speaker 1: just like you know what I mean. It was like
Speaker 1: what the full?
Speaker 3: And then a lot of your guys's artists ended up
Speaker 3: with face paint blaze your dad, homie, And.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We did our label like a wrestling brother. We created characters.
Speaker 2: We were like, all right, Blaze, what does Blaze do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Blaze is from back in the day when they wore
Speaker 2: the clock, you know what I'm saying, and.
Speaker 1: The Raiders ship and everything.
Speaker 2: And he got killed and now he's supposed to be
Speaker 2: current rapping that old ship. That was our idea back then,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And then anybody kill him?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: He was a Native, right yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you what's your what is
Speaker 2: your ethnicity or whatever?
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm Native and I'm like rep.
Speaker 3: That because yo, the Natives love y'all.
Speaker 2: I told I told him Rep that, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and all your shit, you know. And we
Speaker 2: just helped these motherfuckers and signed him and brung them
Speaker 2: on tour. I'm paying all these ninjas to open for
Speaker 2: us in front of our own crown, right right, I'm
Speaker 2: fucking paying these motherfuckers all my life. It was like
Speaker 2: ten years, fifteen years, I think sixteen years I did
Speaker 2: that went twisted, you know what I'm saying, paying them?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So was the betrayal of the fact that they left
Speaker 3: the label.
Speaker 2: You know what the problem was bro when they got
Speaker 2: bigger in the Juggalo world, and Juggalos.
Speaker 3: Loved them because they became really big.
Speaker 2: Right, I sed to Pep come to town and draw
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred or something on a good night, Right,
Speaker 2: have them on a tour. We do the same thing,
Speaker 2: same tickets exactly, but we're paying them all this money.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It was that like that forever. But we we loved them,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Then there was a group
Speaker 2: called Ax Murder Boys and they won a contest. We
Speaker 2: were like, had a contest and ship to see who
Speaker 2: we're gonna sign. You know, they want a contest. Twisted
Speaker 2: was like fuck.
Speaker 1: Them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They won the contest, they were like, they.
Speaker 2: Why they want a contest? They don't deserve to be here.
Speaker 2: Fuck them. They wouldn't even Twisted wouldn't even let them
Speaker 2: come in the studio.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Right, So the one guy in Ax Murder Boys, Young Wicked,
Speaker 2: he was like he had like a hatian for Twisted.
Speaker 2: After that, you know, so years later when Twisted started
Speaker 2: their own label and all that, you know what I mean. No,
Speaker 2: the guy at the I remember at the gathering at
Speaker 2: the Young Wicked show. He's like, all I gotta say
Speaker 2: is psychopathic for life. Fuck that other noise. Everybody knew
Speaker 2: exactly what he was talking about, you know, the whole ship.
Speaker 2: And then so when when uh we got betrayed, that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: That was when that dude, that dude young wicked. He
Speaker 2: was my he was my protege, he was my producer.
Speaker 2: I'm putting him on. I love that kid so much.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's my goal, SI, let me take
Speaker 2: a drink. Do you think I said I never said
Speaker 2: this for anybody.
Speaker 1: I said, it's my goal to see you.
Speaker 2: And your family and living in a paid off house
Speaker 2: in Detroit, all right, with significant money in the bank.
Speaker 1: That's my goal, right, That's what we were working toward
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: Because he had his two kids out there and his
Speaker 2: girl was pregnant again, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: that was his dream to move them here, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And he wanted to live in Detroit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That motherfucker got my brother daughter pregnant, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and betrayed the motherfucking hell out of.
Speaker 1: All of us.
Speaker 3: Your brother's daughter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, howd was she she was of age, but still.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, bro. He denied it.
Speaker 2: Well he got my brother told me, man, it was
Speaker 2: You know what happened was my brother's daughter told my brother, Hey,
Speaker 2: I've been messing around with Young Wicked. And my brother
Speaker 2: was like what. And so my brother didn't tell none of.
Speaker 3: Us because at the time he's got a pregnant girl too,
Speaker 3: where he has a family.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Did he worships and puts his ship on in front
Speaker 2: of us, you know, So my brother's own daughter tells him, Hey,
Speaker 2: I've been with Young Wicked.
Speaker 1: You know. So my brother pulls that motherfucker in a
Speaker 1: room in the.
Speaker 2: Office, you know what I mean, just him, and he's like,
Speaker 2: stay the fuck away from my daughter. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, change your local peace. My brother is a don,
Speaker 2: that psychopath. You know what I'm saying. There's four of us, me,
Speaker 2: my brother, Joey, and Billy. My brother is a don
Speaker 2: and this motherfucker. And my brother said, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: tell anybody what you did. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: not gonna tell anybody stay the fuck away from my daughter.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Right crazy.
Speaker 2: So a month later, my brother's daughter tells him she's
Speaker 2: still seeing them, you know what I'm saying. So my
Speaker 2: brother had to tell us and it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: so listen, all that happened right when Twisted and Us
Speaker 2: fell out right and fucking they signed him the next
Speaker 2: like the day Rob let us know you guys, there
Speaker 2: was a picture the next.
Speaker 1: Day him with their like this. It was insane. They
Speaker 1: hate each other for years.
Speaker 3: They didn't even want him in the SA.
Speaker 1: They had something in common and that was fuckery and
Speaker 1: it was insane.
Speaker 3: Bro, these were my my god, like you said, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I funk all that, you know, Yeah, fuck them all, man,
Speaker 2: fuck all that ship, anybody killer, all of them motherfuckers, blaze,
Speaker 2: all the motherfuckers can fuck the fuck off.
Speaker 1: I hate them.
Speaker 3: So it's safe to say there'll never be another dog
Speaker 3: I think about them.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: I didn't see. I'm like I said, I I'm aware
Speaker 3: of you and Twisted issues. I didn't know you had
Speaker 3: issue everybody.
Speaker 1: Else but you.
Speaker 3: You definitely gave a lot of people a lot of careers.
Speaker 3: And the one thing is, but.
Speaker 1: You know, one man, if Jugger Liutles come in rocking.
Speaker 1: That ship is something I don't give.
Speaker 3: A fuck, but I wasna say. The one thing is
Speaker 3: is you guys have you know, I think some people
Speaker 3: don't understand. Like if you guys embrace an artists, not
Speaker 3: even necessarily somebody who signed to you, you're if you
Speaker 3: them into your world, those fans are.
Speaker 1: Instant, instant. If now we put so many people on it.
Speaker 3: They're gonna buy tickets, they're gonna buy the shirts, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna support you, and they're like the most dedicated
Speaker 3: fans there are in music.
Speaker 2: Well man, it's crazy, but it's no different than it
Speaker 2: is on a massive, glo, global fucking level like Jay
Speaker 2: and everybody.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of smaller thing, you know, But it's
Speaker 2: definitely true if we if we put out an artist
Speaker 2: and put them on touring and we give them a
Speaker 2: stamp Juggalos, unless that motherfucker is something they reject, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, which which you know, but that
Speaker 2: ship is granted, you're gonna be making money, You're gonna
Speaker 2: be able to tour, you know, small clubs and ship
Speaker 2: like we were talking about, like you know.
Speaker 3: How cool is it speaking of that. You guys had
Speaker 3: jelly Roll on tour with you.
Speaker 1: We got g Mac you know who that is.
Speaker 3: I don't bro what I was gonna say before you
Speaker 3: tell me how cool is it to see become a
Speaker 3: country fucking superstar? And what was it like three or
Speaker 3: four years ago he was on your guys tour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty wild, it is.
Speaker 3: It's like kind of cool to just see like everybody's
Speaker 3: getting there just due you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I think everybody needs to get
Speaker 6: off his dick though, like like people doing his ship that.
Speaker 2: Whole sound now, well, yeah, everybody the whole thing of
Speaker 2: being in a studio playing the song, you know, and
Speaker 2: I know everybody want.
Speaker 1: To do that. Get off his dick.
Speaker 3: You're right about that. There's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: You've got nine hundred jelly Rolls all, so there's a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people who see what he's doing and they're like, hey,
Speaker 3: maybe you should try to do country exactly.
Speaker 1: You sound pathetic, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You sound yeah, you want to walk him out there,
Speaker 3: just do a white shot. I was gonna say, you do.
Speaker 3: You do have a new album that you're touring right
Speaker 3: now with Sam and uh Mac.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Three Headed Monster. It's like a side project you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, that I'm doing with.
Speaker 3: Them and Shaggy just got off tours. You guys are
Speaker 3: just doing your solo ship right now and then this
Speaker 3: side project. So tell me about the three three at
Speaker 3: a Monster.
Speaker 1: Well, Wiji is an artist that we that we signed, and.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just weird the way fucking evolution is
Speaker 2: because after Twisted and all that, we signed Wiji and
Speaker 2: and we signed some other guys. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: We've kind of put out after all ad minutes, we
Speaker 2: try to rebuild a label for a minute, but we
Speaker 2: Wiji is a motherfucking machine.
Speaker 1: A workhorse, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like he drops a video way I mean, a good
Speaker 2: looking professional video, like literally every month when he's not torn,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, he's got like another good
Speaker 2: looking video and he's pumping it hard. He's touring all
Speaker 2: the time, like we just did a month. We're on
Speaker 2: tour right now, right yeah, and uh right when I
Speaker 2: go home, he starts his neck six week tour, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Right, he grinds like that, and
Speaker 2: his merchandise ideas are dope, like he incorporated all this
Speaker 2: Asian ship into his name, and shit just like just weird,
Speaker 2: like a Japanese writing on a jersey, and shit it
Speaker 2: just looks dope, you know what I mean? Like he
Speaker 2: comes up with things I don't see anybody doing, and
Speaker 2: suddenly you see everybody the juggler is all doing it.
Speaker 2: You know. Another another dude is Shaggy the Airhead. He's
Speaker 2: a fucking DJ, right, I start in his beat. He's
Speaker 2: got the tag Shaggy the Airhead.
Speaker 1: You know like that right? Right? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And we use his beach in our music for now
Speaker 2: like like last five years.
Speaker 1: Right. He also is a fucking.
Speaker 2: Artist and a clothing guy, right, and his clothes are
Speaker 2: fucking outrageous.
Speaker 1: Right. I believe that dude's I'll selling our ship in
Speaker 1: the juggle world.
Speaker 2: Wow, because everywhere I go when I and shit, people
Speaker 2: are like dope outfit, you know what I mean. He's
Speaker 2: gonna be a monster, I believe, Like I think he's
Speaker 2: gonna outgrow, like his shit could pop and hip hop
Speaker 2: that fashion, it's that fucking dope looking his merch.
Speaker 3: Are you and Shaggy ever going to hang it up
Speaker 3: and retire? Because I feel I feel like I feel
Speaker 3: like passion has to be the driving force for anybody
Speaker 3: doing music, right, is there, like like I mean, you
Speaker 3: guys still love it obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Could you see yourself getting to a point where you're like,
Speaker 3: this is the final ICP album.
Speaker 2: No, there's seven, there's six six more to make, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, in our in our.
Speaker 1: Hopefully legacy.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, well, because all the albums
Speaker 3: are kind of like connected, right, huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the first six Choker cars came out, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just a black cover with a clown face, you know,
Speaker 2: and then the second now we're in the second deck,
Speaker 2: it's five.
Speaker 1: You know, it's six six. There's going to be six six.
Speaker 2: Five, right, and that five it is because like let
Speaker 2: me explain, like this, after the first six, it offers
Speaker 2: the end, like the six Jokers card was having our hell, right,
Speaker 2: that's the six Jokers card in the second deck, you know,
Speaker 2: the next album.
Speaker 1: That's where everybody's waiting to see what it's going to be,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: In the juggle the world planned out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the five, the last five, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't have a six Jokers card because
Speaker 2: we died for real, you get know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to show you how to inside. It's supposed
Speaker 2: to show you how to be a better person, make you,
Speaker 2: and it also helps you vent. Like the people were
Speaker 2: killing and the music are pedophiles and racists and shit
Speaker 2: like that, you know. And it's like people get therapy
Speaker 2: from that ship, you know what I mean? And uh,
Speaker 2: wife beaters and shit. You know, we're child abuses. They
Speaker 2: come from that ship or whatever they have that problem.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Their wife, their wife or
Speaker 1: husband does beat them. You you know what I'm saying. And inventing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And the music's there formed us, creating these illusions of
Speaker 2: going in there and killing them with fucking actions and
Speaker 2: changing saws the way we describe it and everything, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's fantasy.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are definitely.
Speaker 2: Everybody's always say keep real, keep me real. We're all
Speaker 2: in the real world all the fucking time. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I don't want the music. Why can't
Speaker 2: the music do something else once in a while, Why.
Speaker 1: Is it else?
Speaker 3: It's nothing wrong with that, you know, what I mean, Nah,
Speaker 3: for sure, give me we'll ask you another question.
Speaker 2: You you introduced us as hip hop legends. How the
Speaker 2: funk if we're hip hop legends? How the fucking source
Speaker 2: magazine never even made a blip mention of our name.
Speaker 3: I just think that you guys are You guys are
Speaker 3: the underground for real. I feel like, for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: commercial hip hop publications never embraced you guys, And I
Speaker 3: think that's why I was kind of going to get
Speaker 3: to is. I think that there was a point in time,
Speaker 3: like you said, you guys would come out already flip
Speaker 3: you guys off, and it was cool to hate you guys.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: What do you think is the biggest misconception though about
Speaker 3: Because I feel like there's a stereotype about juggalos. Right,
Speaker 3: what do you think is the biggest misconception about juggalos?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: You know that if you I guess today, I like
Speaker 2: where juggalos sit in pop culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. I see jokes and
Speaker 1: shit on sitcoms and TV. You know, people know what
Speaker 1: they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, juggalos, man, man, are the very reason
Speaker 2: we're legit for sure?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: The change your guys's life.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, people, people have such a big.
Speaker 1: Opinion about these juggals and.
Speaker 3: It's people, right, what has been the craziest It's dentist, no, no,
Speaker 3: noting mechanics. Like I'll meet people random places and and
Speaker 3: it's crazy. They're like, oh you have you have a
Speaker 3: like oh you know, like what has been the most
Speaker 3: like like random person who has an occupation, like a
Speaker 3: crazy job that happens to be a juggle, like top
Speaker 3: is it an FBI agent? Is it a dentist?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: You know I've seen cops all the time, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. One time me and Joy were standing out.
Speaker 2: We used to have a TV show on the Fuse network,
Speaker 2: and we're standing out in New York doing that in
Speaker 2: the in the fucking cop card came pulling up right
Speaker 2: right honest. You know the guy gets side like, dude,
Speaker 2: love getting but I love you guys. You know he's
Speaker 2: got the Brooklyn accent. You know I was dope.
Speaker 1: But but Dahn, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: Because I say this like when I when I when
Speaker 3: I explained to people who you who you guys are,
Speaker 3: I say, there there's they have fans. I said there's
Speaker 3: fucking people who you would not even guess with their
Speaker 3: faces or their logo tattooed on them.
Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah, yeah, they're the I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: I had like heart problems and a heart surgeon contacted me,
Speaker 4: and he's like, brother, I would love to sit you.
Speaker 1: Down and talk. Man.
Speaker 2: I I'm a doctor, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I grew up on your ship. I love you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's a fucking heart surgeon, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And he's like, and I'm like, you're my new doctor, ninja,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because I don't even like
Speaker 2: my fucking doctor, you know. But I was like, you're
Speaker 2: my new doctor. Not that I have a relationship. I
Speaker 2: ain't seen any doctor in the year, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, anything goes wrong, you're my doctor, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And fuck yeah. And I was I'm thinking about to
Speaker 2: fly to see him, and I'm like, where are you at?
Speaker 2: Where are you in out of And He's like Rochester
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, it's like, I'm thinking of Rochester,
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, Rochester, Michigan.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what you can drive to you you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, yeah, that's the ship you know
Speaker 1: right there? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That's super dope, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can't all. Ferris is an attorney, homie,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's the guy we sue
Speaker 2: the FBI with.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: He is a Juggalo that recognized me at the mall
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm an attorney. I'm at the mall
Speaker 2: with my girl. And I was like, fuck, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, you're my attorney. Now he's a juggal.
Speaker 2: He's like, I know everything, and I'm like, word.
Speaker 3: So the next big shows Halloween, right, yeah? And then
Speaker 3: what month do you guys usually do the gathering is
Speaker 3: the summertime?
Speaker 1: Uh and August August? Yes, it's hot as fuck.
Speaker 2: It's hot, yeah usually, but it's been pretty good last
Speaker 2: couple of years.
Speaker 1: Man, it was hot as fuck.
Speaker 3: You guys do it like on private Land too, I heard, right,
Speaker 3: which makes it you know a lot more fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and we do the most outrageous shit
Speaker 2: bro I've heard. You know, listen to this. We got
Speaker 2: this thing. It's like a hay ride. We tried like
Speaker 2: three hundred bucks. Right, it's a hay ride and you
Speaker 2: get a CD single of a song, right, a rare song,
Speaker 2: never heard before song. Right, And we take you to
Speaker 2: across the way from the gathering into the woods, right,
Speaker 2: and we do this hunt for bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Right, and you guys are there with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Joy are sitting up on a couple
Speaker 2: hay barrel things looking at the crowd. There's probably like
Speaker 2: sixty people on this hay ride. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And we do three at night. We do
Speaker 2: them all fucking night. But they're the fucking funnest ship
Speaker 2: of my life. And I'm telling you right now, I
Speaker 2: have no problem doing that. I wish I could do
Speaker 2: that every night in Vegas or something. But bro, we
Speaker 2: make it so fucking fun, like like suddenly you'll see
Speaker 2: a bigfoot. We got like, you know, suddenly we do
Speaker 2: you know, we have bigfoots out there, and then a
Speaker 2: shootout between hunters and a bigfoot, you know, and there's
Speaker 2: a you know, it's just super funny. But anyway, we
Speaker 2: do a whole thing. It's like a haunted hay ride
Speaker 2: sort of, you know. But it's like really funny because
Speaker 2: me and Enjoy are doing live commentary. But this last
Speaker 2: year we did bigfoots an alien things. So my brother's like,
Speaker 2: we need to do aliens this year, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: how the fuck we can do that on the on
Speaker 2: the hay ride and he was like watch and man,
Speaker 2: he made that motherfuckers so funny and dope. It was
Speaker 2: so fucking amazing. Like there's a turned over car over
Speaker 2: here smoking and there's a guy laying there. Something lifted
Speaker 2: my car up and flammed it on the ground, you know,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't need help.
Speaker 1: So we pull him on the thing and then me
Speaker 1: and Joy are.
Speaker 2: Just cracking on him, as you know, and so uh,
Speaker 2: then we turned the corner and ship and my brother
Speaker 2: had like lights in the fucking woods and shit and
Speaker 2: sound effects the most corny look at UFO.
Speaker 1: This ship was amazing. Bro.
Speaker 3: Well, listen man, the three hundred Monster albums out right, huh,
Speaker 3: the three headed Monster albums.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got two albums out.
Speaker 3: Two albums tours happened, and how many more dates left?
Speaker 1: Just like four?
Speaker 3: Four tours almost over? Yeah, you guys, man, I just listen,
Speaker 3: Like I said, I gotta I respect y'all for you know,
Speaker 3: just man, you guys build the empire over the last
Speaker 3: thirty years and done it independently, done it your way,
Speaker 3: So salute man is you man? I think a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of people don't even understand that you,
Speaker 3: you guys laid the blueprint down for a lot of
Speaker 3: artists that are following it to this day, but they
Speaker 3: don't even know it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Yeah, well you know, we're just doing it
Speaker 2: like like the Ghetto Boys, did you know, like uh,
Speaker 2: Jane Smith, did you know what I mean? And we're
Speaker 2: we're yeah, doing it, following the way he did it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And uh and in text
Speaker 2: doing it and it's Cordy.
Speaker 1: You don't really fucking need a label no more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why the fuck do you need a label? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: You can post your own ship. You can make your
Speaker 2: own video and post that on YouTube. Like what the
Speaker 2: fuck else is a label?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: CDs don't even exist no more. There's no actual product anymore.
Speaker 2: There's nothing to store, there's nothing to ship.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm saying. Well, I mean, you
Speaker 3: guys have a great like you guys have shit to sell.
Speaker 3: Like you said, it's still important for your self physical
Speaker 3: CDs and yeah.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, I was a young artist, and
Speaker 2: they were like, if a young artists ask me for advice,
Speaker 2: I'd be like, fucking YouTube YouTuber label.
Speaker 3: And stay indie. Yeah, yo, you were saying saying this
Speaker 3: off the air bit but you for people who don't know,
Speaker 3: this is pretty freaking hilarious. But uh, you know there
Speaker 3: is a young rapper who's on who's on the Freshman
Speaker 3: cover Baby Tron, Yeah, and his dad was signed to
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah I didn't see here. I didn't know
Speaker 2: anything about Baby Tron. Okay, I was doing I was
Speaker 2: doing what's it called.
Speaker 1: In La.
Speaker 3: No Jumper, No Jumper. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And afterwards he's like, hey, yo, do you mind sticking around?
Speaker 1: And I was like wow.
Speaker 2: He's like, because we got an upcoming rapper who's you know,
Speaker 2: really popping off really hard, you know, and getting you
Speaker 2: guys in the picture would be legendary, you know.
Speaker 1: So I was like cool, you know, because we're both
Speaker 1: from Detroit or you know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he shows up and we're going to teach
Speaker 2: a picture, you know what I mean, he's and we're
Speaker 2: taking a picture and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, I grew up at your house, dog, and I
Speaker 1: was just like you.
Speaker 3: Know, like, say together, what did you say?
Speaker 2: He's like, I grew up at your house. You know,
Speaker 2: my dad is statistic, you know. And I was like, Bro,
Speaker 2: this kid is my son's friend. Like they used they
Speaker 2: He's been coming to my house for years watching wrestling.
Speaker 1: Pay per views.
Speaker 3: Crazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's just I was just like what you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? He's just chilling it, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, good for you, man, that's the ship. Brother.
Speaker 3: That shit's sick.
Speaker 1: Man. Do a fucking song, yea? Do it? Definitely?
Speaker 3: Know? Yeah, baby trying. You owe me for all the
Speaker 3: fucking barbecues, all that food, all the I was. I
Speaker 3: was froing the bill on the pay per view.
Speaker 1: Can give me a hot sixteen?
Speaker 3: There it is, man, Look violent Jay. Appreciate you pulling
Speaker 3: up bro.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I appreciate you, my man from real.
Speaker 3: Shit fire good ship.
Speaker 1: Man.
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