WEBVTT - #376 - Violent J (Insane Clown Posse) 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.239 Bonnie Jay here from in Saint Clown Posse. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.920 The Duke check me out on the Bootleg Kip podcast. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.319 All right, were rolling Man Bootleg cap Podcast special guests 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:20.760 here one half of ICP hip Hop Legend. This guy 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.800 has yo man. This Violent Jay is here from Insane 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:25.360 Clown Posse. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:25.560 Man. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:26.400 It's good to see your brother. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.360 It's good to see you man, and want you know, 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:29.600 I appreciate being here. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.920 Man. I've been I DMD you a while ago, and 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.840 I'm glad that you like, we finally made this happen 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.080 because ICP, for whatever reason, was just like an integral 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.239 part of my childhood. And I never was like a 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.080 big fan of you guys. I was always like it 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.199 was just around me, Like I never was in your 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.720 guys's music. I'll say it wasn't like I was an 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.160 a choir taste one hundred. I remember my cousin Zach 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.080 moved from Texas to Arizona when I was probably like ten, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.360 and all he was listening to was The Great Malinko 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.200 and so that album. I like, you guys had great skits. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.679 Yeah you know it was like real we got that 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.360 from ice Cube. Yeah, yeah, you guys have some ill 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.560 skits and then I just like I got to give 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.119 you guys flowers because I do feel like you guys 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.960 kick the door down for so much of the entrepreneurial 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.400 ship that I don't you know, I don't know if 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.920 people ever give you credit or not, but you know, 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.039 whether it's the merch, the throwing you guys's own festival, 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.040 like you guys been doing gathering in the juggalos. How 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.039 many years. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.800 It's gonna be the twenty ninth next. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.200 Almost thirty years? 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:36.560 Yeah? 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.640 Yeah, So like nowadays we'll see artists like Tyler the 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.800 Creator do his own festival and like all but like, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.520 I'm like, you guys have been doing it for so long. 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.920 We've been doing this. Yeah yeah man. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:49.760 And this year Halloween is our thirtieth annual in Detroit. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:55.160 We played Halloween every year in Detroit called Hollowiki Clown Show. Yeah, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.720 and this is our thirtieth year. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.520 That's crazy thirty years. Yeah man, I'm thirty six. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.720 Yeah, man, I'm fifty. I'm fifty one in this much. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.400 But I gotta tell you something. I gotta tell you something. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:08.919 This is real shit. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.680 If I'd have known when I was in my twenties, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:20.720 they'd at fifty one my conversation with and. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.400 The way it is with my boys would be this dope. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.720 I wouldn't have worried about getting old. I thought i'd 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.440 be corneous, you know what I'm saying. I thought i'd 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.000 be like my neighbor Tom right, just standing there, like 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.799 everything he says is corneous, you know what I mean. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.760 And I thought i'd be like him, you know what 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:38.200 I'm saying. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.280 But my conversations are the same as when I was 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:42.560 in my twenties. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.640 And you're toring and you're still putting out new albums. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.200 All the time. Yeah, but you know what I mean, 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.680 Like it's not as bad as you thought. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.720 Plus the other thing is when you know how kids 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:54.760 they don't look at you. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.520 There's old school or whatever. You know, when you get older, you. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:03.000 Get wisdom, don't offend you, and you're also not afraid. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.200 I mean, you're also not interested in what they're doing 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.320 because your generation is getting older too. So my heroes, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.960 Snoop and everybody, you know what I'm saying, they're all here, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.080 you know, like they're all our age. So we're still 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.080 watching each other and the game continues. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:17.840 Yeah, for sure. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.200 But when you start off young, you think that's the 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.440 only game there is is what's happening on the hottest 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.799 the hot bumping off. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.160 But man, you know, tell that to Madonna. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.400 She's still killing it in her world, you know what 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.480 I'm saying, dropping the albums and well, I. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.600 Mean, look, hip hops are the newest, I mean, one 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.840 of the newest genres. Right if it just turned fifty 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.960 and we have what we're finally seeing the OG's become 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.800 like real ogs and like. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.760 And the other thing is being fifty one. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.480 Bro, I saw the beginning of hip hop, right, yeah, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.160 and that's the blessing. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.080 I saw the beginning of hip hop. I live on 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.720 this earth with Michael Jackson Prince. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.360 You know what I'm saying, those guys will hopefully become 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.680 iconic for hundreds of years, right you know, Sana to 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.240 be up here and be all as you know. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.320 Yeah, man, it's cool though, but like, do you do 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.040 you feel like you guys get the credit for some 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.800 of the business because I feel like you guys set 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.760 up some business models that other artists like. You know, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.120 I've told this to Tech nine text my brother love Tech, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.240 but I feel like Teching Strange get credit for a 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.799 lot of the that y'all were doing like years prior, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.600 you know what I mean, Like I discovered Tech through 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:24.680 you guys. You know what I'm saying. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:29.760 Yeah, yeah man, me and Tech Man, we almost we 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.360 almost went to war, you know what I'm saying, right, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.320 because it got It was twenty seventeen, you know what 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.760 I'm saying. And that was a pivotal year in the 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:43.000 Juggalo lore because the number seventeen is everything. That's the 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.080 only calendar year with seventeen in all our in the 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.000 Juggles life. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:47.280 You know. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:52.480 So anyway, that year, we were also suing the FBI 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.280 because they put us on the Ganga. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:55.800 They put Juggalos as a gang. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:56.080 Yeah. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.520 Yeah, So we're doing a march on Washington and all 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:03.680 this shit, right, and Tech goes on Hoigh ninety seven 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:11.159 and he's telling stories about fictitious basically rumors. He's talking 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.599 about like a raw dog line at the gathering, you know, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.520 like fifty Ninja's gang banging a chick or whatever. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.440 It ain't you know what I'm saying, That ain't true. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:22.960 You know what I mean. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:24.680 I've heard, I've heard of some of the weird. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.520 The gap I'm just saying, no, no, no, I'm not mad 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:29.680 about tech no more. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.640 But the way he put it down, it wasn't it wasn't. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:33.080 It wasn't. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.520 It wasn't positive or what we were doing, you know, So. 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.240 It wasn't helping when you guys had going on at 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:39.120 that time exactly. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.960 And the other thing was we were doing a concert there. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.160 We played Rudy. Where did we play right at the 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:52.280 Lincoln Memorial? Yeah, right, And it was a free concert, right, 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.200 And I during the march we did, we marched down Washington. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.479 It's like thousands of jugglers out there. We did a 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.840 march because this is we don't know how else they 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.600 said in her gang it was insane, you. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.320 Guys at by twenty seventeen, you were on the gang 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.200 list for years by that point, right. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.159 Yeah, since eleven, since it happened in twenty eleven. But 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.120 here's the thing you gotta understand, bro In certain parts 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.360 of the country, when people are on the gang list, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.240 Like if a jugger log gets pulled over and he 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:20.760 suddenly on a gang. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.200 List, you know what I'm saying, it's a problem. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.280 He might be having a custody battle for his kids, right, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.160 and his wife's ex wife. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.000 Attorney, like, this is a gang member according. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.200 To the government of the United States. Tattoo according to 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.000 the government in the United States. You know what I mean, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.039 Like this was popped up. There was a probation officer 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.200 for fifteen years. Right when that gang resonate thing came out, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.839 when we made the top ten gangs, she got fired. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.560 I mean right in the pink slip. It was like 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:50.640 we saw it on your Facebook. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.000 You know what I mean. You're out of here, you 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:52.599 know what I mean? 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.360 Like, Wow, the ruined a lot of people's lives. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.040 People were getting thrown out of the military. Bro. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.920 I always tell people told to we covered their tattoos 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.039 or have them removed. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.640 I say this all the time. I say, there are 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.880 real teachers teaching our kids right now with Hatchman tattoos 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:07.400 in America. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:12.560 But anyway, the point was, but the had so many 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.440 Juggalo fans, right. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.080 Tone, you guys share so many fans. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.760 He should have played that concert, you get you know 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.880 what I'm saying. So I asked them. I felt like 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.480 it was weigh in advance, you know what I mean. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:24.800 But I asked them to play the concert, Like come 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.720 do this, man, we're paying back. We're going through this. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.360 They're putting this on Juggalos. You know what I mean, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.400 it's really lives up. We don't know how else to 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.080 combat it by instead of doing this marching concert, you know, 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.560 and uh we tried suing them four times that got 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:39.320 thrown out of court. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.960 CHEWINGI yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:46.360 So because you talked about merchandise and spencers and hot topics, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:47.679 guess when that ended. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.480 The second that game, you're like. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.280 Got here all that totally thus shit up, you know 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.040 what I mean, And it's like we're just chilling here 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.440 and independent business artists. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:07:59.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.120 It is a problem, you know what I mean, Like, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.200 what is any It's so outrageous, yet we just lost 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.000 you know what I'm are you guys stowing that list? 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.800 The list don't exist no more. It came out in 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.440 twenty eleven, right, that was the only year they ever 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.440 announced the list like that, Right, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.360 You guys are on that list with like the Crips, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.280 the Bloods, probably Hell's Angel. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.720 Juggles. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.040 Did you ever get an explanation? 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:31.760 Why? Let me tell you something, bro. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.560 There was a book that came out right called Juggalos 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.120 and we had nothing to do with this book. Right 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:43.880 this book, there are at juggalos, I guess or sell 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.559 out Jugglealos right whose career it is or was, I 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:53.280 don't know to travel around to police departments and give 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.120 a seven hour on Juggalo identification showing them all the 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.760 labels in logos. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:01.360 You know what I'm saying. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.040 I'm reading this so many Juggalos and they're very, very 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:05.880 harmless people. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.760 They're the most wonderful people, Like what the hardworking American 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.000 citizens Like I don't understand what the thing is? You 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.680 know what, they come from, broken homes, you know what 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.920 the like? What can they do about it? You know 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.520 what I'm saying, Like, I don't know what like, well, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.600 I don't know what makes them any less. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:23.440 Important if anybody else. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.760 People always say, oh, the only one into this ship 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.880 of the Juggalos, you know what the are Juggles people 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.280 just yeah, you know what I'm saying, Just because they 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.760 have a name, it's like the only one having fun, 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:36.520 the only one, like in. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:37.600 ICP is people. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.600 I just met a guy. I met a guy recently, 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:45.079 like last week. Actually, uh my boy, who's I won't 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.920 even say who he is? Because you guys might know him. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.679 You guys definitely know the rapper, but his guy who's 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.000 on the road of him had a I mean, he's 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.240 just fully tattooed with like twisted you guys like he's 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.800 fucking and I was like, oh, you're Juggalo. He's like, 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.439 I'm a recovering Juggalo bro, and I was like, I 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.240 never heard that. Interesting, What does that mean? I don't 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.640 know he's got all the tattoos. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.120 He's just a joke. I don't know what they're covering. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.480 Juggler is covering. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.280 So if you're I. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:18.560 Want to put him on the tech thing because you 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:19.120 guys are fine. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.360 Now I get it. Now he's this on us. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.200 He's saying like I used to be into that ship, 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.120 but I'm off that ship or whatever. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.120 Oh okay, well, when's that time you guys talked who 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:29.960 you in tech? 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.720 Well, man, we let me tell you something. Then he 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.920 put out on the song he said, my name in 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.040 a song. You know what I'm saying, And he's talking 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.960 about Joe Bruce and I don't remember how I worded, 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:42.960 but it sounded like a fucking disk right, So it 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.560 was getting really heated up, you know, and. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:49.880 He we talked. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.280 I had to drive to a gas station and I 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.280 just get was in my car. You know what I'm saying, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.280 I'm a taxer. He wanted he wanted to get on 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.920 the phone. Yeah, so I'm like, all right, here we go, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:00.840 you know, three hours. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:01.120 Bro. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.080 I respect the Let me say this. I respect the 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:05.840 motherfucking shit out. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:06.200 Of that man. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.440 He's the best, hands down man. That motherfucker is a 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.560 real one for sure. Okay, he talked sensing the meat. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.240 He's one of the realest dudes in the game. I 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:16.960 always say that man, and he's a humble guy. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:22.640 He was like, Brother, you don't want Juggalos to be 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.360 labeled as a gang. If me and you fall out, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.920 that's exactly what they're gonna be, you know what I mean, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.880 Because you know, he was telling me he's he's he's 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.120 with the blood, he's a blood and if we. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.800 Go to war, you know what I'm saying, it's gonna 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.319 be Juggalos against bloods and shit. And I just was like, 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.520 darlas are fan base, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.840 Also, they're not out here like that. This is the 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.400 thing if you go to a tech show. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:51.240 But they are though. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:51.480 Bro. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.440 Unfortunately, they are like that. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.280 Tech was like, man, he's got motherfuckers waiting in line 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.959 meet and Greek coming up and trying to swing on 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.079 him and Ship big bitch. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.600 You know, he's telling. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.000 These stories to me and he's like he's getting he 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.400 uh one of his shows got a bomb threat or whatever. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.360 We hadn't even fallen out right, you know what I mean? 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.880 What what is the website even? Yeah, but you guys 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.080 have a pretty dedicated internet. What is it FAO lovers 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.240 dot net. They've covered some of my interviews, is it? 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:22.800 Yeah? 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.440 So yeah, I don't know if there's if that's a website. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.840 Right right, but they but I know that they'll like 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.600 speculate on ship. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.480 You know, I don't go there. I don't fun with 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.959 him anymore. I used to like him, but I don't. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.120 I don't go there no more. I don't you know, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.480 I don't really go on any websites. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.119 But but but you guys have that three hour conversation 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:41.640 and everything. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:42.400 It was intense. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:42.640 Bro. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:47.080 He was like, look, man, you know, he was like, 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.319 I'm telling you right now. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.000 What was he saying? And I was like, do you 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.560 think I'm afraid? He like, he was like, you do 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.280 not want to He said, you do not want to 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.439 go to war, man, We don't want to go to 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:05.680 war over this. And I'm like, exactly, and he said something. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.600 But I was like, do you think I'm soft? 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:07.760 Bro? 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.360 Do you think that's I'm afraid of that to war 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.200 with you? And he said I am. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.760 You know what I mean. Somebody put it like he 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.520 was like, I'm afraid, bro. We don't need to be 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.880 doing this, you know what I mean? And it was I. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.880 Don't remember exactly, it was five years ago, but yeah, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:26.280 we worked it out, man. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.240 Thank god. And we worked it out of it and that. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.600 Oh, and he also put me up on game about 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.240 who his whole thing because I was like, Bro, you know, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.439 you start wearing the paint. I didn't ever seen him 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.720 wear the paint until halfway through the wicker Walker tour, right, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.840 you know what I'm saying. Not halfway through maybe like 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.560 the beginning of it. But he wasn't wearing the paint 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.600 at the beginning, you know. So I thought, Okay, he's 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:49.400 doing what we're doing. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:50.480 That's cool, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.880 So then it's now it's the thing he still does, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.800 you know. But he was telling me, man, I've been 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.600 wearing paint since way before you you know what I'm saying, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.679 not before me, but you get what I'm saying since waving, right, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:01.359 He always. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.720 Kind of went by like to kill a clown, you know, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:03.840 back in the day exactly. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.679 Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, well he was though, you know, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.600 he he he was pictures and yeah, he put me 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.559 up on the game. He told me about his history 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.400 and everything, and it. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.560 Always seems like you guys had such a like a 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.480 shared fan base, like if you go to a tech show. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.680 I've been to hunt like a probably fifty tech shows, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.320 and you're always going to see jugglers there. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:27.520 So every time. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.240 He was like, my security thinks, my security tells me, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:36.000 he said, my security, uh says we should just we should? 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:37.000 What do you say? 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.720 My security says, he wants to catch some ship like that, right, 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.560 And I was like, fuck that dude, you know, fuck 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.920 him for thinking that, you know, whatever his appointment, whatever 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.840 the thing was. Anyway, So then Tech comes to Detroit 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:55.480 on tour a State theater and and I'm like, you know, 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.160 this is all happening, right. So anyway, we worked it 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.880 out where uh me enjoying to go off on stage 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.840 and introduce them you know what I'm saying. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.360 So yeah, So so we went up there and introduced 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:07.080 them on stage. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.880 You know, but when I got to the venue, right 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.240 the fuck, security fucking throws me against the wall. You 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.720 know what I'm saying, muggs Yeah, man, but and I'm like, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:18.720 what the fuck, y'all? 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:19.960 You know what I'm saying, Like, get up. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:21.240 He didn't know what was happening. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.880 Probably you know, they knew, they just didn't. He was 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.480 telling me his security was like, fuck them dudes, you know. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.160 And I was like, well, fuck them, tell them, fuck you, 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.320 you know what I mean. So when I. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.000 Got there, they were rough, you know, even though I'm 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.320 there to make the fucking peege. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:38.000 You know what's. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.440 Crazy is the last time I saw Tech was last year. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.640 We were in Detroit when I told you, and he 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.440 happened to have a show across the street from where 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.600 the Tigers play, right by the eminem restaurant. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.520 Yea, yeah, that's right where I'm talking about. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:48.880 Yeah. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.120 Yeah, So we went to the show and I told 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.280 I told people, like, you know, I'm from Arizona, so 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.120 we have a certain type of white trash. Is we 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.400 have our own specific white trash, you know. But at 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.880 that show. Being in the crowd at a tech show 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:07.680 in Detroit, I got to see Detroit white trash, and 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.320 I was like, oh, I got I got it, Like 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.200 I got it. I was like, oh, I get it now, 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:17.320 Like this is like you know, auto factory, like you know, 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.800 middle of America, russ belt fucking is different. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.280 No, No, I'm saying that. I'm saying that there's I mean, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:28.320 I'm white trash. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:30.360 I'm not saying that. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.480 I definitely got to see some white trash at the 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.400 Tech nine show. Not all of them are white trash, 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.640 but it was just it was just funny because I 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.360 was just like, you know, we have our own type 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.640 of white trash, Like my family's like a bunch of 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.280 meth heads and like, you know, biker dudes that's like 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:52.440 Phoenix white. Everybody white thom That's fair, you know. I 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.720 was just saying that Detroit white trash was definitely hitting different. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.400 I got it. I was like, Yo, this might have 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.320 been eminem if he didn't make it like standing here 0:16:58.360 --> 0:16:59.400 watching Tech nine like. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.560 You, but man, yeah he's the ship man. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.840 Really No, Tech is great, man, I'm glad you guys 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:05.320 worked that out. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:06.439 I didn't even I knew you. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.280 I knew that there was some sort of like like 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.399 it was out there and that you guys had it 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:12.879 might have been an issue, but I you know, I 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.120 knew it was squashed. I just didn't know the backs 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.560 of how that happened. That's crazy. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:18.800 We were gonna go to war like that. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.440 We were gonna come at them hard, of course, you 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.520 know what I mean, because he's so integrated. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.320 Into your world. Yeah, it's crazy. 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.280 Saying so we weren't just gonna you know, but no, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:27.800 of course. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.359 That's the first time I saw him was on the 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.080 Wicked Walking, the Wicked Walker tour at Mason Amphitheater. It 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.960 was what was that you guys Bone Thugs, cotton Mouth 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:40.640 Kings and Tech Yeah, and uh yeah, And I wasn't. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.080 You didn't do none of the days you were on 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.760 the fucking Halloween song with us. We doll did a 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:48.400 song together too. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:54.000 But what's crazy is that that tour for like that 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.520 period of time, cotton Mouth Kings were fucking huge. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.320 They had They're the unfortunate thing with them, man, I. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.159 Know that they I know that they had like a 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:06.840 falling out like certain members. 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.920 Daddy X we tried to bring them together because they 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.000 were another huge state you s r H. 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.640 I mean yeah, no, for sure population. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.679 You can't even get two of them together. 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.840 They all hate each other's insane like we did, Me 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.640 and Joey, Me and Shaggy did the whole fucking episode 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.760 of our podcast trying to uncover what really happened. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:32.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.520 I've heard certain ship because I think it was like 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.680 an initially like a split. And then what's the dude's 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.040 name who owns Suburban Noise? Uh? I can't think of 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.239 his name right now. What's the guy's name? 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.840 Oh? Fuck yeah, I know his name to what the 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.960 fuck singer? 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:49.479 Yeah? 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:55.160 All right, but bro, here's the thing why it's so unfortunate. Okay, Okay, look, 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:01.360 I CP right, I ain't. Me and Shaggy never made 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:02.920 the money we're making right now. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.399 Ever, so you guys at this moment are making the 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:06.360 most money you've ever made. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.760 Yes, we had four albums on that chart. Bro, listen 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.200 what I'm saying. It's nostalgia. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:18.480 Okay. When we had four albums on the charts. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.080 You know what I'm saying, and you guys were one 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.399 going platinum in the nineties. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:25.720 Yeah, we figured it out. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.800 We sold eight million records, crazy, and I don't know 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.280 nothing about that's when. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.240 Records were here, right right right, that's when. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.280 It's been a few years since streams have been around. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.000 I don't know how to fucking do that, but I 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:43.600 know one of our singles, hocus Pocus, just went gold and. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.760 How many years later just in streams, just in streams 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.040 on its own, you know, like like in because of 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:50.920 the TikTok shit. 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:51.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:56.399 They did like a like a thing to it, hocus Pocus, 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.240 and they you know, they got these fans they do. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.520 You know what I'm saying. It was called lounge check. 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:01.119 I think you know. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.720 Anyway, that ship went gold because the TikTok were like 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.879 a congrats, yeah, I mean, but anyway, what I was 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.760 gonna say, the reason point of this is this nostalgia 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.359 man for these old groups, like like okay, let me 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.760 tell you my boy Bend the Ice when he came out, right, 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:22.119 look at how the fucking massive right then, this m 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.920 Burger was hurting, right you. 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:25.520 Get know what I'm saying. 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.480 He was opening for us and and like he was 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.360 hurting though, you know what I'm saying, like he wasn't 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:33.760 he was just playing. 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.560 Rock clubs, he was. You know what I'm saying, I remember, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.520 I remember small venues. You know what I'm saying. Years 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.399 go by and look at him now. You know what 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.800 I'm saying. I love their nineties tour. 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.320 All of those fucking acts had to hurt for a minute. 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.040 And stoked to see. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.399 Tone look Salt Pepper. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.240 Fucking that's a sick tour to see like that, like that, 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.320 and that tour sell like even like Bone Thugs as well. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.520 Bone Thugs used to fucking play the small venues shots, 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.320 you know, like us, our whole ICP's entire career, we 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.360 play like two thousand seat. 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.160 Venues except for the Wicked Wanka tour. 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.040 Yeah, because we had all of that was crazy, you 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:13.480 know what I mean. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:17.000 You guys like, yeah about two thousand. 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:18.520 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:24.280 So but look at the look at the nostalgia though, 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.840 you know what I'm saying, Like it's different now you 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.960 get what I'm saying, Like, Okay, like give me an example. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.280 I give this example lot, and if anybody's watching it 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.840 to hear me say this a lot, I'm sorry, Vanilla, 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.480 I's fucking we used to play the festivals in the 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.359 nineties in early two thousands. Right, every once in a 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:47.119 while we get booked on a festival, there'd be like 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:51.000 five hundred two thousand Juggalos up front the rest of 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.160 the crowd literally. 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.040 Bro would be like, you know. 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.200 Yeah, it was kind of cool to hate you guys. 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:57.640 It was cool to hate you guys for a while. 0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:57.880 Yeah. 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.800 Well everybody's like fuck you to hear up and down 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.399 there see Cipher, so they're like, fuck y'all. You know, 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:08.439 that was always our whole experience. We stopped doing fucking 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.120 festivals for twenty years. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.960 Because it's our own ship, like the we're gonna do. 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.359 We do our own thing, and we're juggle load out right, 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.399 We're doing our thing, and we got like we're signing bands, 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:20.280 We're doing our thing all in our own little juggle 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:25.280 the world or whatever, right, and fucking Vanilla Ice in 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.640 twenty seventeen, he's like, yo, I want you to come 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:29.480 out and do a song, you know what I mean. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.880 And I'm like, where are you playing. I'm thinking he's 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:36.120 gonna say the shelter, you know. He's like, I'm met, 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.960 I'm at pinew you know, I'm like this is Ample Theater, Like, 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:40.679 what's going on. 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.200 He's like, I love the ninety tour. This is five 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:43.800 years ago. 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:45.840 Bro, he's out there, he's been doing it. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:46.800 He still remember that. 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:48.720 Yeah, it's still it's still going like every. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.200 Year it is, so saying it's massive. They do multiple 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:55.280 tours at once, you know what I'm saying. So these 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:59.520 guys were hurting, bro, they were playing fucking small rock 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:03.480 clubs three hundred people and look at him down, you know. 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:08.800 And anyway, the point was he called us out and 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.520 fucking the place exploded. 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.240 And me and Joy are like, we're telling them be for. 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.200 We're like, I used to this. Yeah, We're like, no, 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:17.800 we told me for. We're like, you don't want to 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.000 bring us out because. 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.560 That because you're used to it. If the crowd's not 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.120 there to see you guys thought anybody's. 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.480 Booing, And he was gonna be like, what the funk? 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:27.200 You know what I mean? And I didn't want to 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:28.920 heard the show. I'm like, bro, you don't want to 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:29.680 bring us out there? 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:31.959 You know, especially on the Island of the nineties, tore 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.680 all the that we were the exact opposite of that shit. 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:37.680 We were the wicked shit, right, you know. 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:38.080 What I mean. 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.199 We were like, fuck the radio, right right right, right, 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.760 right right right right no, And I'm like, why you 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.080 want to bring us out there? And He's like, come on, man. 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:49.040 And so when when me and Shaggie cage to the 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.600 front and they put us on the fucking. 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.760 Screens, the whole fucking place exploded, and we. 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.640 Were like, Wow, that's crazy. 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.040 You know what I'm saying. We hadn't done a festival 0:23:59.080 --> 0:23:59.880 in twenty years. 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.560 Bro, nothing like that, just our own ship and the 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.000 biggest probab we do every years to Gathering or Halloway 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.880 and in front of those are like our staple events, 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.399 you know. But man, we thought, you know, even when 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.879 we walked the red carpet one time in the early 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.800 fucking two thousands at the Billboard Awards, right, they had 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.240 bleachers and fans all in the bleachers, Me and Shaggy 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:24.800 Guy out of the limbo, they fucking food, and we 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:25.800 were like, fuck. 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:30.280 Y'all, what the way you're doing here? We don't go 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:35.040 to award shows. We were like, what are we doing it? Fuck? 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:39.160 Y'all know on the red carpet with the Backstreet. 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.040 Boys, right, I never saw none of those photos either, 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.679 How the fuck could those photos not show up? 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.960 We were chilling with the Backstreet Boys with them as crazy. 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.040 That makes no sense. It's like a dream. Where did 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.000 those pictures go? They didn't. 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:56.399 They didn't have phones. 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.320 No, this is a red carpet. 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:00.959 They're somewhere. 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.879 Yeah, man, that's no. 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:08.800 So let's talk about the gathering because it is. It 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.440 is a thing. Did you ever see the Workaholics episode 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:13.600 about that ship? 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:15.920 Was hilarious? It was they did it good too. 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:17.159 Yeah, it was good. 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:17.840 Man. 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:22.520 There's a movie that came called Family and the character 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.160 in the movie is a jugglo, right, and she goes 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.200 to the gathering and they asked us to make a 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.440 cameo and be like we're on stage at the right man. 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.040 Me and shaggyt like, what is this gonna be? A 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.400 little Rickydi ship? They've rebuilt the fucking gathering. 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:38.960 Do you show up and you're like, oh, ship? 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:44.280 There was a rides, carnival rides, you know, a crowd, 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.959 you know what I'm saying, tents everywhere, people on golf cards, 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.040 party and ship hopfires. 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.240 I'm like, how the fuck did they do that? You 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.359 know what I mean? It was crazy and yeah it 0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.000 was cool though, Man, you guys. 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.120 Ah, so I've had I've had lots of friends performed. 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.680 I was trying to fuck the chick from uh uh Oranges, 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:09.920 The New is Oranges the New Black in that movie. 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:13.840 Yeah, I was me and her dog. We were fucking. 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.119 She knows it. She knows that we were speaking game. 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:26.520 And the other chick was there from Family Pie American. 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:27.160 Pie, American Pie. 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:31.080 She was there and she knew it too, you know 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.040 what I mean. And she was she kept going like, 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:33.680 you know. 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.720 We were just spitting game like talking like you know. 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:41.600 Anyway, Then we talked on text for like a month 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.240 and then it ended, but. 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.680 We didn't keep I didn't even were speaking game like yeah, 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:48.240 like we were talking about. 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:49.880 Ship, interesting ship, you know what I mean. I wasn't 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.760 like I'm like getting your panties. And it wasn't. 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.200 Like like, hey you got a mirror in your pants because 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.280 I can see myself in there. 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:57.680 But it was dope. 0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:01.200 No, I was gonna ask you. So I've heard some Okay, 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.840 so I heard at the gathering there's some crazy ship 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.119 going on. I've seen video of the feet guy. Have 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.240 you seen this guy? He's like the guy at the 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.800 gathering who like licks all the chicks feet. 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.280 No, man, I ain't seen. 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.640 I've heard about the drug bridge at a certain point 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.200 in time. Wasn't there a drug board a bridge where like. 0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.479 It was it was still a drug bridge should be. 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.359 It was like a nice like safe open like everybody 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:25.760 can go and. 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.520 Get I don't know, man, I just don't want nobody to, 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:31.520 you know, get hurt. 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.840 Of course, of course, of course, but this was before 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.640 I think we had to worry about like petoon ship. 0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.920 This was obviously years ago. Yeah, exactly, yeah, and then 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:45.080 and then our good That's why I said, allegedly, this 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:51.160 was not a thing we did. It's not like it's 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.680 not like on the festival map there was like drug bridge. No, 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:55.880 it was just like it was like a fan thing. 0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:58.320 No. 0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:03.360 And then Yo, Jelly roll Tony told me about some 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:04.840 sort of fuck tent or. 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:05.879 Something that was going on. 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:07.840 Allegedly there was a fuck tent. 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.240 That's dope, was wrong. 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.439 Nothing's wrong with this some in several locations, it sounds 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.160 that we wouldn't look it's just wait. 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:20.199 A minute, wait a minute, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's actually 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:21.800 a fucking great idea fuck tent. 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.760 What the fuck we can provide like six tenths on 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.880 the ground, big red tents and light them up all red, 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.480 right yeah, and be like and you go in there 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.200 and it's just all lavish and clean, a plation going 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.480 and fuck, you know, you're all in a wet tent. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.040 You know what I'm saying. Mosquitos and shit. You boys 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.840 it right outside the nylon, you know what I mean? 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.480 You can go away to the fuck tent. You know 0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:45.080 what I'm saying. 0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:46.920 You guys have a small fee. 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.400 Oh yeah, like a like a little and then there's 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.400 just like, you know, willing lovelies in there. 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.760 You know, all work. It is a tent. 0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:59.480 Consenting, willing allegedly allegedly consenting juggallettes. 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.480 I don't know what that's actually dope, Like, that's actually 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:03.680 a dope idea. 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.440 Not a terrible idea. What's the craziest thing? 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:07.560 But it really is a bad idea? 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.360 No, it's not a bad idea. What's the craziest thing 0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.280 with your own eyes you've seen at the at the 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.280 gathering that you can talk about allegedly that you allegedly 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.120 saw with your own eyes. 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.400 No, man, I allegedly nothing. The gathering is off the 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.320 fucking chain, dude. I want to I want to in 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:26.920 the middle of Ohio. Right, Bro, listen, I really advise 0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.120 you to go on account of this. I know you're 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:35.320 a wise man and there's nothing worth more than experiences memories, 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.920 for sure, you know what I'm saying. And you will 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.920 absolutely never forget, not if you live to be a thousand. 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:42.440 Right. 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:49.720 Going to the gathering, bro, And there's absolutely no fucking danger, right, that's. 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.080 The biggest misconception. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.440 Wait, didn't didn't somebody get boot off stage? It was 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:54.400 was it Tila Tequila? 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:55.320 Yeah? 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.000 And then who. 0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.240 Is unless you're an artist? 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:03.920 Unless you're an they don't like you. 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.200 Because what a weird thing. 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.200 I just said, there's no danger And then you're like, 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.280 what about unless you're an artist? 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.240 Absolutely it has been rappers that they've thrown shit at. 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:17.600 Fuck yeah, my heroes, Bro, I've seen I've seen some 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.920 of my heroes go down and leave the stage, you 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:21.440 know what I mean? 0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.400 Like who too short? 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.520 They almost got old dirty bastard off and it was 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.840 I believe the last concert of his life. 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.920 Wow, you had o dB at the gathering. 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:35.800 Right before he passed away? 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.000 Yeah, that's crazy. Were you able to talk with him 0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:39.600 when he got there? 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:40.560 Who was up there? 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.520 Somebody ran up there with o dB and was like 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.560 they were throwing ship and ODB was starting to get mad, 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.520 you know, I mean, they throw ship, that's what they do. 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.880 They're not always trying to hit you. They're just throwing ship. 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.120 Looking in the air, they throw shit. 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.560 There's just ship flying everywhere, you know, including at the stage. 0:30:59.600 --> 0:30:59.760 You know. 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.360 And some people know how to do other people like 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.840 Yellow with that fucker cart. 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.680 And drink it in. 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.560 The place, pot cold, catching a beer on the exactly. 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.240 The crowd loved it. Like he's he's saying, I got 0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.640 no problem with this. I'm rocking this, you know what 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.400 I mean. And that's what you have, the kind of 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.800 energy you have to have, because sometimes guys get up 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:23.880 there and they get they want to. 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.200 Thug, you know, and that is of course. 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.120 The worst thing is if you talk on one juggle, 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.480 everybody gathering. 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.320 Up the good juggle, everyone's turning against. 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.040 You're in the wrong place, you know what I'm saying. 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:38.640 You know that's crazy. 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.080 I didn't know you guys, even if you're up there trying. 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.280 To act like them, and you know what I mean, 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.880 the only ones that ever got away, we're clearly looking 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.800 harder than them. Was fucking. 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:59.960 Last year. Who played last year? The main group? I can't. 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:07.720 I'm being so dumb. Not Suicide Boys, the other I 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:08.600 know what you're talking about. 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:14.880 City Moore, City Mark, Yeah, City City More goes up there, Broom. 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:21.200 They killed that fucking slate. Wow, Like that's they love 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.240 that Wicked ship. 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.600 City Morgan is a version of a wicked ship and 0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.360 Suicide Boys listen to him. They do that three six 0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:34.200 mafia ship. It's like very fucking three second suicide Boy. 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.640 It's a very very three six mafia stylum. 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.920 I feel like DJ Paul's kind of adopted the Juggalos 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.120 American band based pretty heavily. 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.360 Me and DJ Paul are actually fucking very close. 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:48.440 He's a great guy. 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.880 He's so fucking great man. You know what I'm saying. 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.000 We did an album together. He wouldn't stay at my house. 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:58.239 I have my studios in my front yard, right, he 0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:59.680 wouldn't stay at my house. 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.760 Big. He didn't like the woods I live. And he's 0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:06.200 like fuck that, Like what what do you think Bear's 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:07.640 gonna jump through the window or something. 0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:08.640 That's crazy. 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.520 But he's the ship man. He's so dope. 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.600 I love him, man, Yo, So when you guys got 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.920 put on that list. Did you notice besides getting taken 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:22.080 out of stores, besides all of the financial ramifications that happened, 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.360 Were you guys like being followed by the police ever, 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.240 because I don't know, like you guys didn't never have 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.920 any sort of like idea, like, Man, these motherfuckers are 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:36.200 like making like our lives very hard, like because you know, 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.160 if you're obviously you guys are. 0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:40.080 You know what's crazy though? 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:40.320 Man? 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.360 The A C l What is it? The A C 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:43.760 L U. 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.560 Yeah, they fucking jumped on our side, fire. 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.600 Jumped on our side, and they were in the court 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:53.440 with us and ship. 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.400 Wow, straight up, that's fucking sick. 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:57.160 Yeah, we did a. 0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.560 Press press conference and everything, you know what I mean. 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.760 It was insane, man, and we so we we did 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:12.719 the fucking march, right, and uh, it's a publicity stunt, right, 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.480 that's what it is. So we did this press run 0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:20.399 and me and shagguin some crazy shit you know, out 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.880 in New York like talking about it, and it sounds 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.040 like we're it sounds so fucking outrageous. 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:27.160 Because it was. 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.680 But we did like all the ship in New York, 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.359 all the shows, right, and. 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.880 I feel like we succeeded, like I don't like you 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:36.880 said at the beginning, you said you don't think juggle 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.800 loos get their due respector. 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.120 I feel like y'all don't get your respect for I 0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:46.680 feel like your guys' business models. You guys were the 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:51.359 first to really be fully vertical, like you guys were 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:55.280 able to like do your own merch, throw wrestling shows, 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.520 have your own festival, like these are things that like, 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.200 first of all, like everybody's doing nowadays. 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:07.279 You know what I'm saying, rap trivia for anybody out 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:15.320 there listening, I'm gonna name four labels. Okay, let's see 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:22.959 Loop Records, Wrap a Lot Records, Death Jam Records, Death 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.040 Row Records, Insane Clown Posse was signed A one. 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:34.759 Does anybody know what? Yes? Yeah, it was were How 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.160 ridiculous does that sound now? I remember me. It's just 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:41.080 like I remember fucking Lee or Cohen was It was 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.080 a streaming in my face. 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.040 Oh my god, tell me about that row like a thought. 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.960 I can't imagine Lee or Cohen getting you guys. 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:50.799 I don't think he did. 0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.160 But I remember we were supposed to do these branch visits. 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.400 When we're on tour, we go into we're in a 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.120 New Jersey branch for the label, and we meet everybody, 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:03.320 you know, and we were sniffing that ship. You know 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.359 what I'm saying. We just didn't want to keep doing that. 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.960 We're tired and ship, you know, so we're just not anyway. 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.799 We got to New York man and he fucking he 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:13.319 was like. 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:14.400 You did. 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:19.480 You're from the street. I'm from the fucking street, you 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.799 know what I'm saying. And it was just like you know, 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.560 and then he was like, now let's get to business. 0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.600 He was like, I'll get you anybody. He was all 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:29.759 of a sudden, was cool as fuck. 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.719 He's like, we can get anybody you fucking want on 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.040 a record, on a record, right, you. 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.200 Name it, it's happening, you know what I mean. 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.040 And it went from I thought, I'm about to fight 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.200 this dude, right so now I don't. 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:42.839 Want to fuck the dude. 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.200 I just boss. I was gonna say, who who ended 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.080 up bringing you guys into the label? Like who was 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:48.520 the know? 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.560 What happened was we were on. 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.880 Island Island and then I and then Island right okay. 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:56.120 And then Island was gone. 0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.959 Yeah, yeah, they kind of inherited you guys. 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.880 I remember walking through the opposite death Jam right, and 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:05.960 people are like, what is this Halloween? 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.200 The whole label because they had no idea they yet it. 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:10.880 Was just like, what the fuck is what's happening? 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:16.560 And here's the funny thing, right, we sold two million 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.400 albums for fucking Island. 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:23.040 Right, our next our next album is platinum? 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:28.080 Right we do we do a double album and they 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:34.480 both almost go gold. Right now? They just deaf jam. 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.520 Let's they just let the contract expire. 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.120 We didn't get dropped, will you guys did that? They 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:40.920 didn't re sign. 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.640 I remember you guys dropped two albums on the same day, right. 0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:44.600 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.279 You guys did that before, huh no, because it was 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:48.919 two different albums to buy both. 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:50.720 Yeah, exactly, you guys. 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.759 Did that before Nelly because Nelly did it. But like y'all, really, 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:55.319 I think you guys are the first people to be like, 0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:55.840 oh man. 0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:57.520 We did it, we did we did it because he 0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.600 did it. Oh well, the judgment the album. You know 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.600 what I'm saying, he did night and day and back 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.400 in the day and just clocked on everybody. 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.680 You know, it's because your fans are gonna just buy one. 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.720 They're gonnay and why would you combine them. 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:15.080 Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah, here we are, you 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.000 know what I'm saying, And they just let our contract expire. 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.120 So suddenly we signed with another label for fucking million dollars. 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:22.680 Wow. 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.120 The label was a new a new label, right, and 0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.160 they were called. 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:34.320 D three D three is they had old dirty bastard 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.640 they had? Uh they is that Quincy Jones Son? Maybe 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:43.239 I'm tripping QD three That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.960 But man, it just was the same because they that 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:50.000 Jim could have like sold us to. 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.120 Another label if they didn't want us, you know what 0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.000 I'm saying, or got some override, you know what I mean, 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.120 Like here you guys can have, but we're getting points. 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:57.920 You know. 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.080 Oh yeah, you know what I mean? Right, better for you. 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.319 They didn't even I don't think they even knew. Our 0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:05.279 attorney was like. 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.400 Yo, it's two weeks, def Jam hasn't resigned yet, you know. 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.759 And then he's like, yo, it's a week you know. 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.920 And then he's like, no, they didn't resign, right, And 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:17.680 he's like, don't say nothing. He's like, don't say anything. 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.399 We'll let a week pass and then we'll notify him. 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:21.640 We're leaving. 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:23.759 We're going, you know what I mean, not that we 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:28.360 wanted to leave, it's just we Yeah, they just became everything, 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:28.640 can you. 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.040 I feel like you guys did such a great job 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:35.880 of branding because I remember all like like there was 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.120 like the series of albums where all of the covers 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.080 were very similar. Then you'd open the book and the 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.480 CDs were all very similar. Like you guys had like 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:47.640 very dope branding, like every album had a different and 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.640 then the jersey would go with it or the shirt 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:53.719 who Because I do feel like, you know, on the 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.960 marketing side, you guys were amazing. Who was kind of 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.759 the brainchild behind like some of the early like ship 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.160 that you guys would come up with, maybe whether it 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.279 be like, hey, we got to make sure this line 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.680 of albums are consistent with the art and the CDs 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:08.520 all kind. 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:09.680 Of go again. I know this much. 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:14.040 Doing that ship back then is the reason we still 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:15.600 move physical units today. 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:16.719 Yeah, you know what, I'm. 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.880 If their collectors it's like people that people always are 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.960 gonna wonder what you're gonna do, you know, like we'll 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.160 put like a fucking pair of three D glasses in 0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.200 there and put all kinds of crazy shit in there 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.200 and we put a booklet with like mazes and funny. 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:30.880 I remember that. 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:31.240 I remember. 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:32.600 Yeah, you guys had the mazes on the front. 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:32.839 Yeah. 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.040 Yeah, and then like you can pull shit out and 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:36.920 make a piece of dice and you know what I mean, 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:37.799 it's just cool, like. 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:39.720 Uh, you know what I'm saying. 0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.239 But yeah, we we include we do it like that 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.240 and try to do really good packaging. 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:45.720 And to our benefit. 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.600 That comes from back in the day though any you know, 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:48.960 I don't know, I don't. 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.040 Know where that comes from. We are that's just always 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:52.560 done it like that. 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.239 You know, you just always kind of had a knack 0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:54.800 for like. 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:56.960 I think, so, yeah, it's the best way of putting 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:57.080 it in. 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:02.239 Can you give me the origins of the hatchet Man logo? Yeah, man, 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:03.960 that everyone has tattooed. 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.960 In the very beginning, Me and Joey, Me and Shaggy. 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:11.360 He's like, we had two we had two ideas. 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:12.319 For the label name. 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:17.520 One was one was a great name, mad paper Boy, right, 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.600 and it was gonna be a. 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.480 Guy on a bike with a. 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.279 A fucking newspaper, like like like the game, and we 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.520 wanted to call it. Back then, this is before paper 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.560 was known as money because there was a fucking paper 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.240 boy used to come through looking like fucking the Napoleon 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:40.319 dynamite kind of and fucking throwing papers anywhere, and he 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.040 was our boy and we just love to see him. 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.880 So we were like, how about mad paper Records? And 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.080 I thought that would have been cool. The other one 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.600 was psychopathic, you know, the same idea, but now it's 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.120 just a guy with it instead of a paper He's got, uh, 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.560 the hatchet man, you know what I mean. 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.239 Yeah, we got to stop the interview again and tell 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.800 you about our folks at odd Socks. 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It's crazy because I mean, thousands 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.600 upon thousands of people have tattoos that you guys, do 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.879 you remember the year that you first noticed, like, cause 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.600 that's got when artists get like have fans that are 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.440 that dedicated, it's I can only imagine how trippy has 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.480 got to be when it first happens, like, Yo, this 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.680 guy's got us tattooed on them, Like, do you remember 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.839 like when you guys first started to notice that you 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.719 guys's fans were that dedicated? Because that's a level of 0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.960 commitment that man, what, well, what do. 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:06.800 You say to a ninja walks up to you, pulls 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.160 your shirt off in his entire back. You know, it's 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.960 all fucking in his whole body and sometimes, you know 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.080 what I mean, what do you say? 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.600 Right? How do you even react to that? 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:21.320 That's just something it It's like the type of person 0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:21.920 I am. 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:27.680 It makes me uncomfortable a ping of a ping of heart, 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:28.279 you know what I mean? 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.399 Or whatever the fuck term is, right, because I don't 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.719 know how to fuck to you know, respond to that? 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:34.760 It's so stunning. 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:36.480 Are you are you used to it yet? Because at 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:37.400 this point we're. 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.680 Talking I'll never be used to that, and I'll never 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:40.440 understand it. 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.919 You know, I don't want to say the wrong thing. 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:48.759 I love the fucking devotion and dedication. You get what 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:49.200 I'm saying. 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:55.000 But me, I, I you know I would One thing 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.520 I don't like doing, I'm not. I don't like signing 0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.439 my name for an autograph. 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.800 Because because they'll get a tattoo on a hottie. 0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:02.960 I don't want that. 0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.200 I'm like, man, if you are my woman, I don't 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:07.640 want that Ninja's name. 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:09.520 Like, I don't want to. I don't want to. 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.919 I don't want to ruin your love life five years 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:12.239 from now. 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:13.960 No, I don't. 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.480 I'm not used especially you know, I'm not gonna do 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:17.719 it to any I don't like that. 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.200 You know what I'm saying. We signed it so I 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:19.960 can get a tattoo. 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:24.200 Fuck No, you know, but if if, if a dude 0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.719 wants that, whatever, Man, I just I just don't give 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.719 a fuck myself. I don't give a fuck about an autograph, right, 0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:33.800 I don't have No, I don't have any pictures of 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:35.160 any me and anybody. 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.359 I don't give a fuck, you know what I mean? 0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:39.839 No, Yeah, I can imagine bro. 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:40.799 The only person that. 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:45.760 Ever, the only person that ever made me uh shaggy 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:49.040 nervous to me was when we met Vince McMahon. 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.960 Hey throw our fucking mouths. 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:56.279 Dried out, like we were both like and he was like, hey, 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.759 who won the grim tim contest? You know, and that 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:01.960 was like a contest we were having back then, you know, 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.640 and we just looked at you. 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.799 Well, I remember you guys coming out. I mean, you 0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:09.919 guys are for people. I mean, I'm a huge wrestling fan, 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:14.160 and you guys are also very heavily uh aligned in 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.080 the wrestling world. You guys have had your own the 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.520 Juggalo wrest what is it? Yeah, yeah, you guys have 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.120 had your own wrestling federations. 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.000 Yeah. Man, we've been at WWE. 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.920 You guys have been in w W, W E, c W. 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.880 Bro before I forget you want to hear something crazy 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.920 my girlfriend three weeks ago. Yeah, She's like, I had 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:39.680 a dream You're on stage with Roseanne Barr And I'm like, 0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.400 I like, would I be doing on stage rose An Bar? 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:43.120 You know what I mean? 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:48.800 And it happened, bro, what in the last three weeks? 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.840 And I'm gonna post the text because she sent me 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.840 that in a text. Wow, I'm gonna post the text 0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:56.520 with the you can see. I don't know if you 0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.960 I'm put the date. Maybe you just have to believe me. 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:00.880 I guess unless it's some we're on the phone, I 0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:02.440 don't know, but I'm gonna show. 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.800 The fucking tack the date right and then the picture. 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.400 How did you end up on stage with Roseanne? 0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.840 I did a podcast for some comedian friends. 0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.760 With did you is it Wizard in Vegas? 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:17.200 Yes? 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:17.920 Skankfest? 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:19.480 Yes? Yes, bro? 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:26.920 Roseanne is a legend. It was in same that's sick. 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:32.360 Man, I didn't get I played Seattle the night before. Okay, 0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:38.239 no sleep at all, no sleep, flew in, had to 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.600 meet my girlfriend, deal with all this ship in the morning. 0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:42.080 No sleep. 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.279 I don't even know what I'm going to I have 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:46.520 no fucking idea, you know. They're just like, come on 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:47.160 this gang. 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:47.480 First, you know. 0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.319 And I thought it would be podcasts in like a 0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.080 hotel or something. 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:53.440 And I didn't have. 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.799 No idea, and they're just lead me through and it's 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.719 just getting more lit and more lit. And there's a 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:02.000 fucking boxing ring with two hotties slugging it out and 0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:05.640 foot and there's like tiers of people hanging over the 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:09.400 edge and whatever, and then they lead me through and 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.000 all of a sudden there's like what had to be 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.480 like probably a thousand people in this room, in. 0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.799 This huge, crazy sham leaders beautiful Vegas. Shit. 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:22.320 You know, the fucking people are streaming Rabbit and it's 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:27.200 just a table in the chairs and they're doing on podcasts, 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.760 you know what I'm saying, and the place is doing nuts. 0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.920 And then they call Roseanne up, you know what I'm saying, 0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:33.960 And then they. 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:37.880 Call me up and I'm sitting next to fucking Roseanne. 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.240 That'll be on YouTube if it's not already on YouTube. Son, Yeah, I'm. 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:45.239 Sitting next to Roseanne, and it's like, how the fuck? 0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:49.080 And all I've been eating all morning is mushrooms? 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:49.479 Nice. 0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.880 I swear you got some rooms. I got pound the 0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:53.879 shrooms right over here. 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.959 Yeah, how hard are we even looking for rooms? Last week? 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:02.440 I got a whole pound for you if you want it. 0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:07.399 Ever since I went to fucking Skankfest. I listen, brother, you. 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:14.840 Man, there's like three pounds in that trash back. But 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.839 bring your shrewming. You're fucking having a time. And then 0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.080 rose sitting there, no sleep, no. 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.560 Sleep, and I get up there everybody's up on this 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.520 stage drinking and passing blunts, and I'm like, double hat 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:27.759 and coat, you know what I mean. 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.960 It's two in the afternoon and it's just as lit. 0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.120 And when we do the podcast, it's so lit, right Ben, 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.080 They're like, we'll take it to the green room. 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.120 So I'm going through this packed crowd. 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:43.680 Everybody's party is music, bitches dancing, everybody's smoke blown weed 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:45.279 in his finance establishment. 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.040 They take me in the green room and it's the 0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:49.120 exact same. 0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:52.760 Fucking li just lit it just let in the green 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:55.879 room and it's dark and there's a DJ, and there's 0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:56.560 food anywhere. 0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:58.880 And I'm like, what's the fucking difference, you know what 0:50:58.920 --> 0:50:59.200 I mean? 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:02.560 I've taken had pictures all everywhere out there, and I'm like, oh, 0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:06.480 green room. When you relax in the green room, I'm 0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:07.960 going it's worse, you know what I'm just. 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.200 I was gonna ask about the wrestling tip man, like 0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.880 you know, like you said you you guys, I remember 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.080 seeing you guys come out as like like on I 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.879 want to say, was it on raw back? 0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.440 And right man? I took a stone Colt stunner, brother. 0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:24.000 You took a stunner fucking yes right there. Sometimes I 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:25.319 think he's behind your head. 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.239 Sometimes I think it's I'm lying to myself. I'm like, 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.680 is that true? Yes, man, brother, you want to hear 0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:32.080 the story. 0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:33.080 Yes. He was like. 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.120 When we first met Stone Cold in w W, he 0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.360 was like, he sat down by me and Joey and 0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.239 the arena and nobody's in there yet, and we just 0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.359 He's like, kind of music, You're like, I answered him. 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:49.000 Then he's like, what kind of you hunt? I'm like no, 0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:52.000 and he's like, basically we. 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.840 Had nothing, nothing in common with Stone Cold. 0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:57.400 Nothing, And it was just like in this so anyway, 0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.880 like probably two months or a month later, two months whatever, 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.600 he's like, all right, you know how to take a stunner? 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.080 And I said yes. He said, all right, listen, I'm 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.520 gonna come out there. First thing I'm gonna do is 0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:11.840 kick you in the stomach and give you a stunner. 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:13.320 Or no, he said, the first thing I'm gonna do 0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:17.280 is kick him in the stomach and give him a stunner. 0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.319 I'm gonna pop. I'm turning around and you know you 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.920 got it. I'm like, yeah, I'm number two, I got it. 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:22.560 You know what I'm saying. 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:27.440 And so he's like, you know, okay, and he's like, 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:28.960 are you sure you got it? And I'm like yeah. 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.040 So then we go to the gorilla position. We're about 0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.480 to go out there, and he's like, hey, man, are 0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:36.359 you sure you know you know? Do you know how 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.359 to take a stunt? I'm like, yeah, bro, I got it. 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:39.320 He goes. 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.840 So we go out there and first person he kickses me, 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:44.120 you know what I'm saying. 0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:45.640 So we get it out of order. 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:47.920 Yeah, and I wasn't even expected. 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.120 And I'm like all halfway turning around and shit, because 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.160 I'm still thinking, we gotta look like you know what 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.440 I mean? And I'm just like, oh, you know what 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:57.080 I mean? And I took it off shitty, but I tried, 0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:00.160 you know what I mean. And I'm just thinking I wanted. 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.040 Did did Shaggy take it better than you? 0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:03.080 Did he take it? 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.040 Did Shaggy take the stunner better than you did? 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.120 Took everything better better than me? But Shaggy didn't take 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:09.000 the stonnach Oh he didn't. 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.000 Yeah, he kicked the guy from the Headbangers, Okay, gave 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:12.720 him a stunner. 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.080 You know, he was whatever. But anyway, yeah, it was doped. 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:17.160 That's sick. 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.319 So you got to hang out with Vince, you got 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.360 to hang out with Stone Cold, take a fucking stunt, 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:23.719 but you got to chop it up with him for 0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:25.160 a second him say hi. 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.239 Oh yeah yeah. And after that, every week we see 0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.200 him in the hallway and say, were. 0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.239 You guys coming out, like when you guys did the 0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.360 e c W thing? Was this after they joined w 0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.759 W E or was this prior like in the e 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.440 c W days? Say it again, like when you you 0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:42.600 said you came out at e c W, right, was 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:47.720 this prior to them joining the conglomerate or was this 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:49.759 so this is like independent? 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:54.040 Yeah, hot where all the stars came from? Sab Sandman, 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.799 you know, was this in Philly? Yeah? At the at 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:58.160 the e c W arena? 0:53:58.560 --> 0:53:58.880 Sick? 0:53:59.120 --> 0:53:59.319 Yeah? 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:00.640 Man, did you guys Paul Hayman? 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.319 Yeah? I love po I love him too. 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:05.360 He's my favorite. I think he's like my favorite character. 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:07.439 I think he's the greatest manager ever. 0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:11.400 I think he's probably the most talented man in pro wrestling. 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:12.759 The best mic work ever. 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:13.239 Yeah. 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.360 Did you see his promo recently where he was crying 0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.000 outside of Roman Reigns locker room? 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:19.880 No, Oh my god. 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:20.399 It's art. 0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:24.440 I haven't seen anything lately. It's good, is it? So 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.399 he's gone? This is gone now right? 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.279 Yeah? They sold to but yeah the company, so they 0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:35.000 put a big it's like a UFC and WW are 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:38.440 now owned. I think it's they have a t KO 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:43.040 is the name of the parent company. And uh, I 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.160 think it's better if Triple H is running things personally. 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:47.520 I like what Triple H does? 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:47.880 Man? 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:49.839 Right, So are you guys still throwing indie shows every 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:50.359 once in a while? 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:53.560 Yeah, who's been the big I'm with Billy Corgan's NWA 0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:54.120 right now. 0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.399 Oh that's sick. I'm gonna say for you guys, because 0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:58.919 you guys actually have like wrestling DVDs out and shit 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:00.960 like if people ever want to go like, there's is 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:01.279 It was a. 0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.520 Juggler World Order j c W Championship Wrestling. 0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:07.040 What was the biggest wrestler that you guys were able 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:07.359 to have? 0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.760 Kind of Well, we have Ric Flair at the gathering, 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:11.160 you know what I mean? 0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:13.040 You guys brought Rick Flair to the gallery. 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.359 Yeah, man, Yeah, and. 0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:16.680 What did he think of that ship? 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:21.000 He was supposed to host all night right, and he 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.600 went out there one time, he went out there another 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:27.080 time a fucking big ass pop almost hit him. He 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.880 was like, thank you very much, the. 0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.080 Fuck out of here, Yeah, he was. I'd be like, yo, 0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:33.759 before you leave, Caul, you just give me one chop 0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:38.040 to the chest, bro, Like can I take my shirt off? 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:41.640 And can you make me pink real quick? Drop the 0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:42.400 fuck out of me? 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:43.399 Pause? You know what I mean? 0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.400 No, I would love to meet him. I've met a 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.239 lot of wrestlers. I've interviewed a lot of wrestlers, but 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:50.279 I haven't met Ric Flair man. 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:51.520 Yeah, man, it'd be nice. 0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:55.000 It's nice to see him have this like rejuvenation in 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.080 hip hop culture, like you know what I mean. Like 0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.960 there's like the Griselda guys, and then obviously off set 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:01.920 it's got the Rick Flair Drip and ship and now 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:05.560 he's selling weed called Rick Flair Drip. It's it's pretty cool. 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:06.880 I love it. 0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:10.400 Yeah, No, it's it's amazing. I wanted to ask you 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.920 for for you guys, because I had Bizarre on the 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:17.200 show maybe a year ago, man, maybe seven or eight 0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.920 months ago, and Bizarre gave you guys a lot of 0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:26.280 love and respect and flowers. Yeah, but you guys had 0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:29.920 the beef right, Yeah, and you guys were beefing with 0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:33.480 Eminem when he was the biggest rapper in the world, right, 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:39.040 and that had to be interesting, great publicity for you guys. 0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:41.160 A lot of new people discovered you guys through that. 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.359 So what was that? Like? How serious? Because you guys 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.600 are in the same city, each of you guys. I'm 0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:48.560 sure I wrapped up with some serious guys. I mean, 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:49.840 you know, So it. 0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:53.759 Wasn't like I always tell people, the problem wasn't us 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:57.840 in Eminem. It was our camps, you know what I'm saying, 0:56:58.520 --> 0:56:59.560 running into each other. 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:00.680 That was the problem. 0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:03.680 It was like almost like the entourages kept, That's what 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:05.560 I'm saying, throwing fire on the flames. 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.080 Our guys go all out juggler everywhere, you know, I mean, 0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:13.520 psychopathic everywhere, you know. And yeah, man, you know that 0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:18.400 was what was Stelle. But but man, like, like you know, 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.480 the thing is, what was. 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:22.280 What was the point? 0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:25.439 I can say you could go to like I could 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:30.880 back then, I could go to an Eminem show, right and. 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:35.480 Where icy p ship where a kid get beat up, 0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:35.680 you know. 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:39.840 What I'm saying, at an Eminem concert, And if he had. 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:42.880 Other way around though, yes, what I'm saying, if somebody 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.400 were eminem arena. 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:49.040 That's an arena, right, we're in a small club. You know, 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.040 what's the other way around, don't. 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:52.880 Icy? 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:55.960 But you know, thankfully everything's cool, you know. And I 0:57:55.960 --> 0:58:00.280 remember Proof making squashing the beef. You know, seem like 0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.000 he was a peacekeeper for a lot of He was 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:02.880 so dope. 0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:07.920 For coming over and squashing the beef. Man rest in peace. Proof. 0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:10.080 He was so dope, Like I was so. 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.920 Happy to be an honor to be including in that 0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:15.760 because he was squashing M's beef with. 0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:16.439 The royal names. 0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:17.880 Yeah, he squashes me with Royce. 0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:20.600 Yeah, he was squashing beef with because M was going 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:22.480 on back then dropping crazy names, you. 0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:22.880 Know what I mean. 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:25.720 And he was beeping with a lot of underground rappers 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:30.040 like Dilating and ever Last and yeah, em had some 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:31.080 random beefs. 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.800 Yeah, but yeah, And when he came to the office 0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.680 and ship and then we went bowling and drinking. 0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:40.960 You went bowling with him with D twelve with D 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.720 twelve so with the crew against I CP. 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:45.959 Wow, So that was our crew. 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:46.800 That's dope. 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:47.600 It was dope. 0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:50.480 More rappers should first we were at a concert that ship. 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.080 That's how people should resolve things. Let's hang out and 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:59.640 let's fucking bowl man shout out to Shan was in 0:58:59.680 --> 0:58:59.920 the bill. 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:00.800 Then that's right. 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:06.680 I was gonna say. Fago is very much a thing 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.480 that I only knew about because of y'all. Like my 0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:11.760 whole life, I didn't know fagel was a real thing. 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:15.560 I always thought it was just your guys' drink, right, 0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:18.520 didn't know it was a thing. I mean really, later on, 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:20.400 I've I've found out. Like when I grew up in like, 0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:22.800 you know, certain liquor stores would carry like exotic snacks 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.240 on the West Coast, they'd have fago. And then we 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:28.360 go to Detroit and any liquor store you walk into 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:31.000 there's like fifty flavors. It's pretty crazy. 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:32.800 Yeah, I mean. 0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.000 Did they ever give you guys a piece of a 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:36.640 company with us? 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:38.800 That's insane. Let me tell you something. 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:41.640 The only thing they ever did for us, yeah, right, 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:46.400 was give us a Fago machine in our office. Okay, 0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.439 I'm gonna tell you it was something else. That's here's 0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.680 why they did it, right, Not because you guys are 0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:59.000 oh you're ICP, you know, do you know? It's because 0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.280 all they know is we're probably the biggest customer. 1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:06.120 Because you guys so all the who else buys. 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:12.280 More fagel what like we do other than maybe grocery departments, 1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:14.760 But we're right in there, and they probably put Fago 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:16.920 machines in the grocery departments all the time too. 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:18.919 They think we're one of them. They don't funk. 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:23.600 When you guys were launching, they're massively in Detroit, Detroit. 1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:27.120 We are obviously helping these motherfuckers massively. 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:29.440 So when you guys are you guys are launching all 1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:31.560 these two leaders and we're paying for them to. 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:32.360 Try to talk to them. 1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:34.240 We have an attorney talk to them like, look, man, 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:37.160 let's do something, you know, like just put out like 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:42.080 a clown cola or something a special Let's do a special. 1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:45.440 Cover for people that want it. Motherfucker, you sell out. 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:47.480 I'm not asking you to put it in grocery stores 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:48.800 will buy them. 1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:50.400 But let's work together. 1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:52.480 So they never even gave you. They don't even let 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:52.959 us use. 1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:56.880 Their name in as not ridiculous what I'm saying, we 1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:59.000 all throw a fucking bomb in a place. 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:01.160 Allegedly. 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:05.640 No, that is crazy, because I don't think I think 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:07.200 why don't they work with us? 1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:11.280 I think a fog you're the fangels. 1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:16.240 Thrown and sold. What the fuck? They better work with 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:16.720 us and. 1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:20.200 Suck from the back from the back, on the back, 1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:24.480 from the back backwards twice. Yeah, that's crazy. So you 1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:26.720 guys were buying all those two leaders, they weren't giving 1:01:26.760 --> 1:01:27.080 them to you. 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:31.480 Come on, bro, we're getting them whatever the charging. 1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:34.680 You know, I always wondered, right when you guys like 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:36.600 would map out your tours? 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.640 You have to have semis well, No, I was, I was. 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:42.720 I was just curious, like you guys map out your tours. 1:01:42.840 --> 1:01:45.520 Is there like a like the venue knows, like, hey, 1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:49.120 look man, at the end of this show, you better 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:50.920 have a clean up crew because it's gonna be sticky. 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:52.360 Of course, no, because. 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:53.120 You guys were launching. 1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:57.000 Man used to be walking. I never listen to this. 1:01:57.560 --> 1:02:01.439 We did back when all we had was Detroit. We 1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:07.000 were we had not popped anywhere. We fucking ran Detroit though, 1:02:07.480 --> 1:02:09.520 including Toledo, which is. 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:12.080 Like an hour right, you know what I mean from Detroit. 1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:16.760 So this Toledo radio station is doing a festival. 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:20.520 This is like fucking ninety four. They're doing a festival. 1:02:21.080 --> 1:02:24.040 But we're this massive local thing, right right, So they 1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:28.760 put us on this festival with Coolio Outcasts. 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:35.800 I don't remember right now, too short, you know what 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:37.800 I mean. And we're on there. 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:41.720 And we got Fagel half the fans you know what 1:02:41.760 --> 1:02:44.440 I mean, Juggalos, you know what I mean. But there 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:46.600 was a lot of fucking Juggalos in there, you know. 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:50.440 And it was hype. But Outcast was like, what the 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:53.320 fuck You've got Fago all over our fucking turntables, you 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:53.919 know what I mean. 1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:55.560 You know what I'm saying. 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.800 They were like, yeah, I feel them. No, No, we 1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:00.680 had a fam Where the fuck are they these guys 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.800 throwing soda dressed like clowns? What is going on in 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:04.720 fucking Toledo? 1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:06.280 Straight up, they surrounded us. 1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:10.720 I'm not gonna lie, so out Casts they got mad. 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:12.080 So you guys had. 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:14.680 They walked up on us, you know, with a message 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:18.560 one dude could have said, but they sent fifteen to. 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:20.959 Say, Hey, you guys gotta pay for these turntables. Huh. 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:21.920 You guys bought a new turntable. 1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:23.800 Yeah, we had to buy a new equipment for him, 1:03:23.840 --> 1:03:24.320 you know what I mean. 1:03:24.400 --> 1:03:26.840 It's the right thing to do. Yeah, of course, what's 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:28.320 the best flavor of Fago? 1:03:28.480 --> 1:03:31.160 Allegedly, That's what I'm saying one guy could have said 1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:32.760 that said that, No. 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:34.960 For sure, you know what I'm saying. But what's your 1:03:35.000 --> 1:03:36.080 favorite flavor of fago? 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:37.000 Oh? 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:39.920 And this is assuming that they suck your dick from 1:03:39.960 --> 1:03:44.920 the back and apologize. I like grape grape, that's pretty basic. 1:03:45.200 --> 1:03:47.280 What was the one that we had that was like blue? 1:03:49.480 --> 1:03:50.360 No, you missed? 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:53.720 No, bro, my favorite favorite is And then then I 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:57.000 think his genius is it's called firework. 1:03:57.400 --> 1:03:57.919 That's the one. 1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:00.520 It's like a bomb pop bomb pop that shit fire 1:04:00.600 --> 1:04:00.959 Do you. 1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:04.800 Know how that became a pop fagel ran a contest? 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:08.080 Think of a flavor you know what I'm saying. Somebody 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:08.880 sent that in. 1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:12.280 That's a dope fucking idea, a bomb pop and has 1:04:12.360 --> 1:04:14.520 some fucking whatever. 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:18.120 We were in Detroit and like I remember, we probably 1:04:18.120 --> 1:04:20.720 bought like nine bottles of Fago just to try. We're like, bro, 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:23.320 We're never like this is crazy. We've never seen so 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:26.120 many random flavors of soda. And like all the rappers 1:04:26.160 --> 1:04:28.680 are like, you gotta try to cream peach. 1:04:29.320 --> 1:04:32.760 They got Moon missed, Red Rock and Rye. You know 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:34.600 they got Rock and Rise. 1:04:34.720 --> 1:04:35.680 Moon missed was good? 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:36.640 Well, Rock and. 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:41.400 Rise, Doctor Pepper. Moon miss is is Yeah, yeah, you 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:41.840 know what I'm saying. 1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:44.160 Maybe it wasn't moon missed. I'm thinking of the blue one. Yeah, 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:49.560 but the one he said, how cool is it to 1:04:49.600 --> 1:04:53.960 see Drake wearing y'all ship because because the rest of all, I. 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:55.880 Don't give a fuck what anybody says. 1:04:56.240 --> 1:05:02.640 I don't believe Drake wore that, having ever even heard 1:05:02.800 --> 1:05:03.640 any of our music. 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:06.800 I think he wore that as a fashion thing. 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:10.439 Right, Okay, I don't doubt that, because I think that's 1:05:10.480 --> 1:05:11.240 what's happening. 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:13.240 I don't think that over time. 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:19.120 You know, we're old school and you know people you know, Yeah, 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:22.640 I've seen in a fashion magazine and ice P shirt 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:24.160 for five hundred dollars. 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:28.200 It was like ripped, like you guys get old. It 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:30.000 was like a fucking vintage one. 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:30.920 It was a vintage one. 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:35.040 Huh No, it was like fashion. It was the design 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:35.600 of the shirt. 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:36.760 You know, you get me to get a piece of 1:05:36.800 --> 1:05:37.360 some company. 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:40.000 That's what I'm saying that, like like it's a it's 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:41.560 a fashion thing, you know what I'm saying. 1:05:41.560 --> 1:05:43.920 Like Drake had the was it the jersey? 1:05:44.400 --> 1:05:44.720 Huh? 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:46.520 Was Drake wearing a jersey. 1:05:46.880 --> 1:05:51.520 A ring a ring master jersey, which is our second album. Okay, 1:05:52.080 --> 1:05:55.040 come on, like like the second Joker's card. 1:05:55.080 --> 1:05:58.240 You know, what the fuck is Drake doing wearing that? 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:01.280 But but I mean, it's gotta feel kind of cool. 1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:03.320 Though. Let me tell you something else that makes no sense. 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:08.720 Llo cool j right, just did his tours doing his tour, right, 1:06:09.200 --> 1:06:12.320 he has the wall behind him. What's on the wall? 1:06:12.400 --> 1:06:12.880 You've seen it? 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:16.520 A bunch of names? Right, your name's on there, my name, 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:20.280 just your name, just mine, not Shaggy, not ICP. 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:26.360 In the fuck. You know what I'm saying. I've never met. 1:06:26.160 --> 1:06:29.680 Ellll in my motherfucking life. I listened to his station 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:32.760 all day every day. I've never heard a blip of 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:35.360 our ship. And we are nineties to the fucking. 1:06:35.880 --> 1:06:40.400 Core, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, why 1:06:40.480 --> 1:06:42.680 is my name on that wall? You know what I mean? 1:06:42.720 --> 1:06:44.120 It makes no fucking sense. 1:06:44.880 --> 1:06:47.080 You don't feel like it's it's dope to see you 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:48.120 get some acknowledgement. 1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:49.640 But I think it's like. 1:06:49.600 --> 1:06:52.320 An accident or like, you know, let me tell you 1:06:52.360 --> 1:06:53.440 where I think it came from. 1:06:53.800 --> 1:06:57.640 All right, what was that magazine? Does he Rudy? Was 1:06:57.680 --> 1:07:00.160 it the New York Times? In New York? 1:07:01.760 --> 1:07:04.439 It was it was not a magazine, a newspaper, right, 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:06.440 I think it was a newspaper. 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:08.320 Well, you know, it could also be his graphic guy 1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:08.920 as a Juggalo. 1:07:09.120 --> 1:07:10.560 No, I'm telling you. 1:07:10.880 --> 1:07:12.960 This newspaper came out and it did a story the 1:07:13.000 --> 1:07:16.880 fifty greatest Voices in Hip Hop, and it's like, you're 1:07:16.640 --> 1:07:19.360 you were on there and they he asked, I was 1:07:19.400 --> 1:07:22.080 on the list, you know what I'm saying, And I 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:25.120 was just like, and at the same time, I would 1:07:25.400 --> 1:07:28.440 I did that interview for that big newspaper. 1:07:28.680 --> 1:07:33.160 Yeah. You get what I'm saying is when that tour started. 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:34.680 And I saw my name on the wall, might have 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:37.400 been that, and I'm just like, what the fuck is 1:07:37.440 --> 1:07:38.000 going on with that? 1:07:38.120 --> 1:07:39.600 You know? I mean they also might you know. 1:07:39.640 --> 1:07:42.960 It's such icp true, you know what I'm saying in 1:07:43.480 --> 1:07:45.479 both true, you know. 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:50.200 But for you, like I always, like you said, man, like, 1:07:50.280 --> 1:07:54.040 when you think of juggalos, historically, it's the outcasts of society. 1:07:54.080 --> 1:07:55.760 It's people, you know, a lot of people are from 1:07:55.800 --> 1:07:58.000 broken homes. A lot of you know, most of the 1:07:58.000 --> 1:08:03.040 people who I know from Azy who were juggalos were just. 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:04.920 That doubles come from pain. Man. 1:08:04.960 --> 1:08:07.440 It was never it was never the cool thing to wear. 1:08:07.800 --> 1:08:10.120 It was always like, oh those are juggalos, you know. 1:08:10.520 --> 1:08:13.760 But to have Drake, who's like the biggest rapper on 1:08:13.800 --> 1:08:17.880 the planet rocking your guys, it's almost crazy how full 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:19.800 circle that is, Like it's an honor. 1:08:19.880 --> 1:08:22.519 You know, he's got like I don't remember, but it's 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:27.200 like three hundred million followers or something on that. 1:08:27.320 --> 1:08:29.160 Do you guys see a spike in merch sales? 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:32.479 Three hundred fucking million? The thing is, it just looks 1:08:32.520 --> 1:08:33.960 cool though, for sure, Like it. 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:36.280 Doesn't you guys. 1:08:36.400 --> 1:08:37.160 You guys really have. 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:41.599 Very well possibility. He might have fashion and just who 1:08:41.640 --> 1:08:42.679 work for him and. 1:08:42.600 --> 1:08:44.960 Just get vitage jersey. 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:47.760 Yeah man or just whatever. You know, you ever heard it? 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:48.040 You know? 1:08:48.439 --> 1:08:52.120 He just yeah, I just don't think it has anything 1:08:52.160 --> 1:08:53.080 to do with our music. 1:08:53.439 --> 1:08:54.720 What kind of pop was that for you? 1:08:54.760 --> 1:08:54.920 Though? 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:57.599 Did you guys see any like spike in merch sales? 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:01.680 Not that I know, you know, everybody's mean meaned it 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:02.760 out in the juggler world. 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:05.640 I bet they have. And then post Malone too, shout out. 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:08.920 I think the post notes who you guys are? He's 1:09:08.920 --> 1:09:12.400 got a post post notes, shaggy post. 1:09:12.600 --> 1:09:15.360 I would love to put me post Post is probably 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:18.040 one of my top three favorite artists. 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:22.559 Yo, can you educate me right now? Oh? Post is amazing, 1:09:22.760 --> 1:09:24.360 you know, I'm it's really hard for him to make 1:09:24.400 --> 1:09:27.719 a bad song. I say, he's just he's just such 1:09:27.760 --> 1:09:29.959 a talented, such. 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:31.000 A good dude. 1:09:31.040 --> 1:09:32.920 It seems super super sweet guy. 1:09:32.960 --> 1:09:33.519 You know what I mean? 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:38.040 Can you? Did you guys? Because I again I'm not 1:09:38.840 --> 1:09:40.360 you know, I told you this off day, off the air. 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:42.360 I was never like a big fan of your guys' music, 1:09:42.400 --> 1:09:47.120 but I'm very aware of you guys and your your universe. 1:09:47.560 --> 1:09:50.960 You know, did you get twisted ever? Squash your guys? 1:09:51.000 --> 1:09:54.479 Is the civil war of the juggalo world? 1:09:54.920 --> 1:10:02.760 No fuck Twisted Day? I die? Really them? Fuck them? 1:10:03.120 --> 1:10:06.360 Fuck them. I ain't never been betrayed harder in my life. 1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:10.960 It was. It was a fucking physical pain the way 1:10:11.000 --> 1:10:12.160 those motherfuckers betrayed me. 1:10:12.160 --> 1:10:16.040 Because you guys did put them on, like literally gave 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:16.800 them a fan base. 1:10:17.120 --> 1:10:19.760 I gave them the name right. 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We had to fucking hone 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:32.280 them in, you know what I'm saying, Because they're talented 1:14:32.320 --> 1:14:32.639 as fuck. 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:34.720 They were talented as fuck, you know, we had to 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:37.559 hone them in and they're just dumb and wild style, 1:14:37.640 --> 1:14:39.840 you know. But we fucking showed them how to douce, 1:14:39.880 --> 1:14:41.800 show them how to market, showed them all that shit, 1:14:41.840 --> 1:14:44.280 you know what I'm saying, and and brung them on 1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:46.960 tour the first time we ever built ourselves up to 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:49.720 go on a national tour and a bus. They were 1:14:49.720 --> 1:14:52.720 in the motherfucker opening, you know what I'm saying. We 1:14:52.880 --> 1:14:53.639 just gave them love. 1:14:54.360 --> 1:14:58.040 At first, the Jugglers were like when they. 1:14:57.960 --> 1:14:59.960 Came out to got two other guys in clown for 1:15:00.880 --> 1:15:02.080 the Juggalos were. 1:15:01.960 --> 1:15:08.840 Like, fuck you you know what I'm saying. 1:15:09.200 --> 1:15:11.479 You know what I'm saying. And we took us. 1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:14.519 Years, you know what I mean for them to accept them. 1:15:14.600 --> 1:15:14.840 Yeah. 1:15:14.920 --> 1:15:16.960 Man, we were like, these are our boys. We're putting 1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:19.719 them out psychopathic, you know what i mean. And still 1:15:20.120 --> 1:15:24.080 people couldn't understand the idea of Juggalos being something different 1:15:24.120 --> 1:15:24.719 than ICP. 1:15:25.520 --> 1:15:27.280 They didn't want to bring it. Then you guys had 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:29.280 like a and it was a fat of skinny guy 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:31.080 just like you know what I mean. It was like 1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:31.679 what the full? 1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:33.559 And then a lot of your guys's artists ended up 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:39.200 with face paint blaze your dad, homie, And. 1:15:37.479 --> 1:15:38.200 That's what I'm saying. 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:43.200 We did our label like a wrestling brother. We created characters. 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:45.800 We were like, all right, Blaze, what does Blaze do? 1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:46.040 You know? 1:15:46.520 --> 1:15:49.160 Blaze is from back in the day when they wore 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.120 the clock, you know what I'm saying, and. 1:15:51.000 --> 1:15:52.280 The Raiders ship and everything. 1:15:52.439 --> 1:15:55.320 And he got killed and now he's supposed to be 1:15:55.400 --> 1:15:59.080 current rapping that old ship. That was our idea back then, 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:03.280 you know what I'm saying. And then anybody kill him? 1:16:03.600 --> 1:16:03.840 Right? 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:05.520 He was a Native, right yeah. 1:16:05.560 --> 1:16:09.559 I was like, what do you what's your what is 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:11.320 your ethnicity or whatever? 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:14.720 And he was like, I'm Native and I'm like rep. 1:16:14.640 --> 1:16:17.479 That because yo, the Natives love y'all. 1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:21.640 I told I told him Rep that, you know what 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:24.640 I'm saying, and all your shit, you know. And we 1:16:24.840 --> 1:16:27.559 just helped these motherfuckers and signed him and brung them 1:16:27.560 --> 1:16:30.559 on tour. I'm paying all these ninjas to open for 1:16:30.680 --> 1:16:33.720 us in front of our own crown, right right, I'm 1:16:33.880 --> 1:16:37.360 fucking paying these motherfuckers all my life. It was like 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:41.840 ten years, fifteen years, I think sixteen years I did 1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:45.040 that went twisted, you know what I'm saying, paying them? 1:16:45.320 --> 1:16:45.559 You know? 1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:47.360 So was the betrayal of the fact that they left 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:47.840 the label. 1:16:48.360 --> 1:16:51.240 You know what the problem was bro when they got 1:16:51.280 --> 1:16:54.120 bigger in the Juggalo world, and Juggalos. 1:16:53.600 --> 1:16:55.759 Loved them because they became really big. 1:16:55.920 --> 1:16:58.519 Right, I sed to Pep come to town and draw 1:16:58.680 --> 1:17:01.400 twenty five hundred or something on a good night, Right, 1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:05.760 have them on a tour. We do the same thing, 1:17:06.439 --> 1:17:09.880 same tickets exactly, but we're paying them all this money. 1:17:09.880 --> 1:17:10.080 You know. 1:17:10.320 --> 1:17:14.160 It was that like that forever. But we we loved them, 1:17:14.800 --> 1:17:17.840 you know what I'm saying. Then there was a group 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:23.320 called Ax Murder Boys and they won a contest. We 1:17:23.320 --> 1:17:25.040 were like, had a contest and ship to see who 1:17:25.080 --> 1:17:28.519 we're gonna sign. You know, they want a contest. Twisted 1:17:28.680 --> 1:17:30.160 was like fuck. 1:17:30.000 --> 1:17:31.360 Them, you know what I mean. 1:17:31.439 --> 1:17:33.480 They won the contest, they were like, they. 1:17:33.600 --> 1:17:36.200 Why they want a contest? They don't deserve to be here. 1:17:36.479 --> 1:17:39.720 Fuck them. They wouldn't even Twisted wouldn't even let them 1:17:39.760 --> 1:17:40.559 come in the studio. 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:41.360 Wow. 1:17:41.479 --> 1:17:46.719 Right, So the one guy in Ax Murder Boys, Young Wicked, 1:17:47.000 --> 1:17:51.639 he was like he had like a hatian for Twisted. 1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:55.000 After that, you know, so years later when Twisted started 1:17:55.000 --> 1:17:59.639 their own label and all that, you know what I mean. No, 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:02.680 the guy at the I remember at the gathering at 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:05.000 the Young Wicked show. He's like, all I gotta say 1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:07.960 is psychopathic for life. Fuck that other noise. Everybody knew 1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:10.920 exactly what he was talking about, you know, the whole ship. 1:18:11.560 --> 1:18:19.680 And then so when when uh we got betrayed, that motherfucker. 1:18:20.720 --> 1:18:23.840 That was when that dude, that dude young wicked. He 1:18:24.000 --> 1:18:28.280 was my he was my protege, he was my producer. 1:18:28.320 --> 1:18:31.439 I'm putting him on. I love that kid so much. 1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:35.800 I was like, it's my goal, SI, let me take 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:40.639 a drink. Do you think I said I never said 1:18:40.640 --> 1:18:41.400 this for anybody. 1:18:41.720 --> 1:18:44.759 I said, it's my goal to see you. 1:18:44.680 --> 1:18:48.200 And your family and living in a paid off house 1:18:48.560 --> 1:18:52.080 in Detroit, all right, with significant money in the bank. 1:18:52.800 --> 1:18:55.000 That's my goal, right, That's what we were working toward 1:18:55.040 --> 1:18:56.559 for him. 1:18:55.880 --> 1:18:58.559 Because he had his two kids out there and his 1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:01.120 girl was pregnant again, you know what I'm saying. And 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:03.720 that was his dream to move them here, you know 1:19:03.720 --> 1:19:06.080 what I'm saying. And he wanted to live in Detroit. 1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:06.719 You know what I'm saying. 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:12.640 That motherfucker got my brother daughter pregnant, you know what 1:19:12.640 --> 1:19:17.639 I'm saying, and betrayed the motherfucking hell out of. 1:19:17.720 --> 1:19:18.320 All of us. 1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:19.880 Your brother's daughter. 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:25.040 Yeah, howd was she she was of age, but still. 1:19:24.840 --> 1:19:28.840 That's crazy, bro. He denied it. 1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:31.720 Well he got my brother told me, man, it was 1:19:33.120 --> 1:19:37.719 You know what happened was my brother's daughter told my brother, Hey, 1:19:38.000 --> 1:19:42.080 I've been messing around with Young Wicked. And my brother 1:19:42.240 --> 1:19:45.000 was like what. And so my brother didn't tell none of. 1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:47.040 Us because at the time he's got a pregnant girl too, 1:19:47.080 --> 1:19:48.719 where he has a family. 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:49.800 You know what I'm saying. 1:19:49.800 --> 1:19:52.280 Did he worships and puts his ship on in front 1:19:52.320 --> 1:19:55.880 of us, you know, So my brother's own daughter tells him, Hey, 1:19:55.920 --> 1:19:57.280 I've been with Young Wicked. 1:19:57.320 --> 1:19:59.880 You know. So my brother pulls that motherfucker in a 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:00.439 room in the. 1:20:00.479 --> 1:20:02.519 Office, you know what I mean, just him, and he's like, 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.120 stay the fuck away from my daughter. You know what 1:20:06.160 --> 1:20:09.679 I'm saying, change your local peace. My brother is a don, 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:14.080 that psychopath. You know what I'm saying. There's four of us, me, 1:20:14.360 --> 1:20:17.679 my brother, Joey, and Billy. My brother is a don 1:20:18.080 --> 1:20:20.599 and this motherfucker. And my brother said, I'm not gonna 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:23.120 tell anybody what you did. You know what I'm saying, 1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:27.479 not gonna tell anybody stay the fuck away from my daughter. 1:20:28.000 --> 1:20:29.839 You know what I'm saying, Right crazy. 1:20:30.320 --> 1:20:34.920 So a month later, my brother's daughter tells him she's 1:20:34.920 --> 1:20:37.240 still seeing them, you know what I'm saying. So my 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:41.360 brother had to tell us and it was like, you know, 1:20:42.160 --> 1:20:46.840 so listen, all that happened right when Twisted and Us 1:20:46.920 --> 1:20:52.599 fell out right and fucking they signed him the next 1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:57.640 like the day Rob let us know you guys, there 1:20:57.680 --> 1:20:58.920 was a picture the next. 1:20:58.800 --> 1:21:02.559 Day him with their like this. It was insane. They 1:21:02.800 --> 1:21:04.240 hate each other for years. 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:05.519 They didn't even want him in the SA. 1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:10.640 They had something in common and that was fuckery and 1:21:10.760 --> 1:21:11.880 it was insane. 1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:16.879 Bro, these were my my god, like you said, Yeah. 1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:21.240 Anyway, I funk all that, you know, Yeah, fuck them all, man, 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:26.200 fuck all that ship, anybody killer, all of them motherfuckers, blaze, 1:21:26.760 --> 1:21:29.160 all the motherfuckers can fuck the fuck off. 1:21:29.200 --> 1:21:29.680 I hate them. 1:21:29.760 --> 1:21:31.240 So it's safe to say there'll never be another dog 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:33.040 I think about them. 1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:34.000 I don't. I don't. 1:21:34.200 --> 1:21:37.360 I didn't see. I'm like I said, I I'm aware 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:38.840 of you and Twisted issues. I didn't know you had 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:39.840 issue everybody. 1:21:39.479 --> 1:21:40.439 Else but you. 1:21:40.439 --> 1:21:42.160 You definitely gave a lot of people a lot of careers. 1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:44.160 And the one thing is, but. 1:21:44.240 --> 1:21:46.000 You know, one man, if Jugger Liutles come in rocking. 1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:47.280 That ship is something I don't give. 1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:48.840 A fuck, but I wasna say. The one thing is 1:21:48.840 --> 1:21:51.639 is you guys have you know, I think some people 1:21:52.920 --> 1:21:56.040 don't understand. Like if you guys embrace an artists, not 1:21:56.080 --> 1:21:59.800 even necessarily somebody who signed to you, you're if you 1:22:00.160 --> 1:22:02.320 them into your world, those fans are. 1:22:03.080 --> 1:22:06.720 Instant, instant. If now we put so many people on it. 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:08.800 They're gonna buy tickets, they're gonna buy the shirts, and 1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:11.360 they're gonna support you, and they're like the most dedicated 1:22:11.360 --> 1:22:12.840 fans there are in music. 1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:17.080 Well man, it's crazy, but it's no different than it 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:22.160 is on a massive, glo, global fucking level like Jay 1:22:22.200 --> 1:22:22.719 and everybody. 1:22:23.280 --> 1:22:23.840 You know what I'm saying. 1:22:23.880 --> 1:22:26.200 It's just kind of smaller thing, you know, But it's 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:28.360 definitely true if we if we put out an artist 1:22:28.720 --> 1:22:30.439 and put them on touring and we give them a 1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:35.800 stamp Juggalos, unless that motherfucker is something they reject, you 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:39.400 know what I'm saying, which which you know, but that 1:22:39.520 --> 1:22:43.400 ship is granted, you're gonna be making money, You're gonna 1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:46.400 be able to tour, you know, small clubs and ship 1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:47.840 like we were talking about, like you know. 1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:50.760 How cool is it speaking of that. You guys had 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:52.000 jelly Roll on tour with you. 1:22:52.320 --> 1:22:54.120 We got g Mac you know who that is. 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:57.760 I don't bro what I was gonna say before you 1:22:57.800 --> 1:23:01.720 tell me how cool is it to see become a 1:23:01.800 --> 1:23:04.400 country fucking superstar? And what was it like three or 1:23:04.400 --> 1:23:06.040 four years ago he was on your guys tour. 1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:08.040 Yeah, it's pretty wild, it is. 1:23:08.400 --> 1:23:10.559 It's like kind of cool to just see like everybody's 1:23:10.560 --> 1:23:11.640 getting there just due you know. 1:23:12.120 --> 1:23:19.280 Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I think everybody needs to get 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:23.519 off his dick though, like like people doing his ship that. 1:23:23.479 --> 1:23:26.400 Whole sound now, well, yeah, everybody the whole thing of 1:23:26.439 --> 1:23:29.080 being in a studio playing the song, you know, and 1:23:29.120 --> 1:23:30.200 I know everybody want. 1:23:30.040 --> 1:23:31.760 To do that. Get off his dick. 1:23:32.040 --> 1:23:33.599 You're right about that. There's a lot of people. 1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:35.720 You've got nine hundred jelly Rolls all, so there's a. 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:37.880 Lot of people who see what he's doing and they're like, hey, 1:23:37.920 --> 1:23:42.080 maybe you should try to do country exactly. 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:44.880 You sound pathetic, you know what I'm saying. 1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:48.599 You sound yeah, you want to walk him out there, 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:51.040 just do a white shot. I was gonna say, you do. 1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:52.479 You do have a new album that you're touring right 1:23:52.520 --> 1:23:55.320 now with Sam and uh Mac. 1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:58.320 Yeah, Three Headed Monster. It's like a side project you 1:23:58.400 --> 1:23:59.680 know what I mean, that I'm doing with. 1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:02.240 Them and Shaggy just got off tours. You guys are 1:24:02.280 --> 1:24:03.800 just doing your solo ship right now and then this 1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.280 side project. So tell me about the three three at 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:06.679 a Monster. 1:24:06.880 --> 1:24:11.519 Well, Wiji is an artist that we that we signed, and. 1:24:13.320 --> 1:24:16.120 You know, it's just weird the way fucking evolution is 1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:23.600 because after Twisted and all that, we signed Wiji and 1:24:23.600 --> 1:24:25.479 and we signed some other guys. You know what I mean, 1:24:25.520 --> 1:24:27.280 We've kind of put out after all ad minutes, we 1:24:27.320 --> 1:24:30.559 try to rebuild a label for a minute, but we 1:24:30.600 --> 1:24:37.559 Wiji is a motherfucking machine. 1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:38.960 A workhorse, you know what I'm saying. 1:24:39.360 --> 1:24:41.719 Like he drops a video way I mean, a good 1:24:41.760 --> 1:24:46.160 looking professional video, like literally every month when he's not torn, 1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:48.280 you know what I mean, he's got like another good 1:24:48.280 --> 1:24:51.280 looking video and he's pumping it hard. He's touring all 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:53.720 the time, like we just did a month. We're on 1:24:53.800 --> 1:24:57.320 tour right now, right yeah, and uh right when I 1:24:57.400 --> 1:25:01.200 go home, he starts his neck six week tour, you 1:25:01.200 --> 1:25:03.880 know what I'm saying. Right, he grinds like that, and 1:25:03.960 --> 1:25:07.320 his merchandise ideas are dope, like he incorporated all this 1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:11.360 Asian ship into his name, and shit just like just weird, 1:25:11.439 --> 1:25:15.280 like a Japanese writing on a jersey, and shit it 1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:17.240 just looks dope, you know what I mean? Like he 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:19.720 comes up with things I don't see anybody doing, and 1:25:19.800 --> 1:25:22.200 suddenly you see everybody the juggler is all doing it. 1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:26.200 You know. Another another dude is Shaggy the Airhead. He's 1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:31.559 a fucking DJ, right, I start in his beat. He's 1:25:31.560 --> 1:25:33.960 got the tag Shaggy the Airhead. 1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:37.160 You know like that right? Right? Yeah? Yeah? 1:25:37.479 --> 1:25:41.160 And we use his beach in our music for now 1:25:41.240 --> 1:25:42.519 like like last five years. 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:46.560 Right. He also is a fucking. 1:25:47.960 --> 1:25:51.720 Artist and a clothing guy, right, and his clothes are 1:25:51.800 --> 1:25:52.760 fucking outrageous. 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:56.040 Right. I believe that dude's I'll selling our ship in 1:25:56.080 --> 1:25:56.960 the juggle world. 1:25:57.120 --> 1:26:01.240 Wow, because everywhere I go when I and shit, people 1:26:01.240 --> 1:26:04.200 are like dope outfit, you know what I mean. He's 1:26:04.240 --> 1:26:07.120 gonna be a monster, I believe, Like I think he's 1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:10.960 gonna outgrow, like his shit could pop and hip hop 1:26:11.000 --> 1:26:14.639 that fashion, it's that fucking dope looking his merch. 1:26:14.960 --> 1:26:19.280 Are you and Shaggy ever going to hang it up 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:25.000 and retire? Because I feel I feel like I feel 1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:27.519 like passion has to be the driving force for anybody 1:26:27.560 --> 1:26:29.360 doing music, right, is there, like like I mean, you 1:26:29.439 --> 1:26:30.679 guys still love it obviously. 1:26:30.920 --> 1:26:31.240 Yeah. 1:26:31.320 --> 1:26:33.479 Could you see yourself getting to a point where you're like, 1:26:33.880 --> 1:26:35.800 this is the final ICP album. 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:41.479 No, there's seven, there's six six more to make, you 1:26:41.520 --> 1:26:43.679 know what I mean, in our in our. 1:26:45.360 --> 1:26:47.880 Hopefully legacy. 1:26:47.960 --> 1:26:50.160 You know what I'm saying, well, because all the albums 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:51.960 are kind of like connected, right, huh. 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:55.160 Yeah, there's the first six Choker cars came out, you know, 1:26:55.560 --> 1:26:58.000 it's just a black cover with a clown face, you know, 1:26:58.400 --> 1:27:01.160 and then the second now we're in the second deck, 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:02.000 it's five. 1:27:02.120 --> 1:27:05.480 You know, it's six six. There's going to be six six. 1:27:05.520 --> 1:27:11.800 Five, right, and that five it is because like let 1:27:11.800 --> 1:27:15.040 me explain, like this, after the first six, it offers 1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:18.840 the end, like the six Jokers card was having our hell, right, 1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:23.040 that's the six Jokers card in the second deck, you know, 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:24.960 the next album. 1:27:25.160 --> 1:27:27.000 That's where everybody's waiting to see what it's going to be, 1:27:27.400 --> 1:27:27.880 you know what I mean. 1:27:27.920 --> 1:27:30.599 In the juggle the world planned out. 1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:33.720 Yeah, but the five, the last five, you know what 1:27:33.800 --> 1:27:39.599 I mean, it doesn't have a six Jokers card because 1:27:40.320 --> 1:27:43.120 we died for real, you get know what I'm saying. 1:27:43.560 --> 1:27:46.439 It's supposed to show you how to inside. It's supposed 1:27:46.439 --> 1:27:48.800 to show you how to be a better person, make you, 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:52.639 and it also helps you vent. Like the people were 1:27:52.720 --> 1:27:55.559 killing and the music are pedophiles and racists and shit 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:59.799 like that, you know. And it's like people get therapy 1:27:59.840 --> 1:28:02.200 from that ship, you know what I mean? And uh, 1:28:02.280 --> 1:28:05.800 wife beaters and shit. You know, we're child abuses. They 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.120 come from that ship or whatever they have that problem. 1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:10.920 You know what I'm saying. Their wife, their wife or 1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:14.080 husband does beat them. You you know what I'm saying. And inventing, 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:14.439 you know. 1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:18.360 And the music's there formed us, creating these illusions of 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:20.479 going in there and killing them with fucking actions and 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:23.360 changing saws the way we describe it and everything, it's 1:28:23.439 --> 1:28:26.600 it's it's it's fantasy. 1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:27.719 Right, you know what I'm saying. 1:28:27.920 --> 1:28:29.000 Yeah, you guys are definitely. 1:28:29.000 --> 1:28:32.400 Everybody's always say keep real, keep me real. We're all 1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:34.840 in the real world all the fucking time. You know 1:28:34.880 --> 1:28:36.360 what I'm saying, I don't want the music. Why can't 1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:38.160 the music do something else once in a while, Why. 1:28:38.040 --> 1:28:38.720 Is it else? 1:28:38.960 --> 1:28:40.760 It's nothing wrong with that, you know, what I mean, Nah, 1:28:40.840 --> 1:28:43.920 for sure, give me we'll ask you another question. 1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:48.479 You you introduced us as hip hop legends. How the 1:28:48.520 --> 1:28:51.280 funk if we're hip hop legends? How the fucking source 1:28:51.360 --> 1:28:55.160 magazine never even made a blip mention of our name. 1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:58.519 I just think that you guys are You guys are 1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:01.320 the underground for real. I feel like, for whatever reason, 1:29:02.240 --> 1:29:05.960 commercial hip hop publications never embraced you guys, And I 1:29:05.960 --> 1:29:07.720 think that's why I was kind of going to get 1:29:07.720 --> 1:29:11.439 to is. I think that there was a point in time, 1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:14.080 like you said, you guys would come out already flip 1:29:14.080 --> 1:29:16.920 you guys off, and it was cool to hate you guys. 1:29:17.200 --> 1:29:17.400 Right. 1:29:18.439 --> 1:29:21.759 What do you think is the biggest misconception though about 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:25.160 Because I feel like there's a stereotype about juggalos. Right, 1:29:25.920 --> 1:29:28.400 what do you think is the biggest misconception about juggalos? 1:29:29.800 --> 1:29:32.120 Oh? 1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:36.760 You know that if you I guess today, I like 1:29:36.840 --> 1:29:38.599 where juggalos sit in pop culture. 1:29:38.840 --> 1:29:40.960 Yeah, you know what I mean. I see jokes and 1:29:41.000 --> 1:29:44.360 shit on sitcoms and TV. You know, people know what 1:29:44.479 --> 1:29:44.880 they are. 1:29:45.200 --> 1:29:52.280 Yeah, you know, juggalos, man, man, are the very reason 1:29:52.640 --> 1:29:55.439 we're legit for sure? 1:29:55.560 --> 1:29:56.120 You know what I mean? 1:29:56.160 --> 1:29:57.080 The change your guys's life. 1:29:57.080 --> 1:30:02.320 I mean, you know, yeah, people, people have such a big. 1:30:03.760 --> 1:30:05.840 Opinion about these juggals and. 1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:12.080 It's people, right, what has been the craziest It's dentist, no, no, 1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:18.760 noting mechanics. Like I'll meet people random places and and 1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:20.640 it's crazy. They're like, oh you have you have a 1:30:21.600 --> 1:30:24.760 like oh you know, like what has been the most 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:28.960 like like random person who has an occupation, like a 1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:33.439 crazy job that happens to be a juggle, like top 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:35.679 is it an FBI agent? Is it a dentist? 1:30:35.760 --> 1:30:35.920 Is it? 1:30:35.960 --> 1:30:39.120 You know I've seen cops all the time, you know 1:30:39.120 --> 1:30:42.400 what I mean. One time me and Joy were standing out. 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.360 We used to have a TV show on the Fuse network, 1:30:44.640 --> 1:30:47.280 and we're standing out in New York doing that in 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:50.240 the in the fucking cop card came pulling up right 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:53.080 right honest. You know the guy gets side like, dude, 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:55.840 love getting but I love you guys. You know he's 1:30:55.840 --> 1:30:58.320 got the Brooklyn accent. You know I was dope. 1:30:58.520 --> 1:31:01.440 But but Dahn, that's a good question. 1:31:01.800 --> 1:31:03.360 Because I say this like when I when I when 1:31:03.360 --> 1:31:05.559 I explained to people who you who you guys are, 1:31:05.760 --> 1:31:08.960 I say, there there's they have fans. I said there's 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:12.080 fucking people who you would not even guess with their 1:31:12.120 --> 1:31:14.519 faces or their logo tattooed on them. 1:31:14.600 --> 1:31:20.760 Right now, Yeah, yeah, they're the I mean, you know, 1:31:20.800 --> 1:31:26.439 I had like heart problems and a heart surgeon contacted me, 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:30.240 and he's like, brother, I would love to sit you. 1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:31.080 Down and talk. Man. 1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:34.040 I I'm a doctor, you know what I mean. 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:36.160 And I grew up on your ship. I love you, 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:36.680 you know what I mean. 1:31:36.720 --> 1:31:38.920 He's a fucking heart surgeon, you know what I mean. 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:44.160 And he's like, and I'm like, you're my new doctor, ninja, 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:47.360 you know what I mean? Because I don't even like 1:31:47.400 --> 1:31:49.720 my fucking doctor, you know. But I was like, you're 1:31:49.800 --> 1:31:52.000 my new doctor. Not that I have a relationship. I 1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:54.000 ain't seen any doctor in the year, you know what 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:54.400 I'm saying. 1:31:54.400 --> 1:31:57.280 But I'm like, anything goes wrong, you're my doctor, you 1:31:57.320 --> 1:31:57.800 know what I mean? 1:31:58.280 --> 1:32:01.240 And fuck yeah. And I was I'm thinking about to 1:32:01.240 --> 1:32:03.599 fly to see him, and I'm like, where are you at? 1:32:03.760 --> 1:32:06.440 Where are you in out of And He's like Rochester 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:09.400 and I was like, oh, it's like, I'm thinking of Rochester, 1:32:09.479 --> 1:32:09.840 New York. 1:32:09.880 --> 1:32:11.320 He's like, no, Rochester, Michigan. 1:32:11.400 --> 1:32:14.600 I'm like, what you can drive to you you know 1:32:14.640 --> 1:32:15.080 what I mean. 1:32:15.400 --> 1:32:17.439 I was like, fuck, yeah, that's the ship you know 1:32:18.479 --> 1:32:19.439 right there? You know what I mean? 1:32:19.520 --> 1:32:20.400 That's super dope, man. 1:32:20.560 --> 1:32:26.720 Yeah, but I can't all. Ferris is an attorney, homie, 1:32:26.880 --> 1:32:28.599 you know what I mean. That's the guy we sue 1:32:28.640 --> 1:32:30.000 the FBI with. 1:32:30.360 --> 1:32:30.799 Wow. 1:32:31.120 --> 1:32:35.080 He is a Juggalo that recognized me at the mall 1:32:35.720 --> 1:32:38.400 and he's like, I'm an attorney. I'm at the mall 1:32:39.160 --> 1:32:42.160 with my girl. And I was like, fuck, yeah, you 1:32:42.200 --> 1:32:44.599 know what I mean, you're my attorney. Now he's a juggal. 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:48.800 He's like, I know everything, and I'm like, word. 1:32:49.080 --> 1:32:54.960 So the next big shows Halloween, right, yeah? And then 1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:57.400 what month do you guys usually do the gathering is 1:32:57.439 --> 1:32:58.000 the summertime? 1:32:58.520 --> 1:33:02.320 Uh and August August? Yes, it's hot as fuck. 1:33:02.600 --> 1:33:05.400 It's hot, yeah usually, but it's been pretty good last 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:06.080 couple of years. 1:33:07.080 --> 1:33:09.040 Man, it was hot as fuck. 1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:11.599 You guys do it like on private Land too, I heard, right, 1:33:12.040 --> 1:33:14.280 which makes it you know a lot more fun. 1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:18.000 Yeah, you know, and we do the most outrageous shit 1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:22.519 bro I've heard. You know, listen to this. We got 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:25.880 this thing. It's like a hay ride. We tried like 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:31.240 three hundred bucks. Right, it's a hay ride and you 1:33:31.400 --> 1:33:35.920 get a CD single of a song, right, a rare song, 1:33:37.280 --> 1:33:41.439 never heard before song. Right, And we take you to 1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:44.920 across the way from the gathering into the woods, right, 1:33:45.240 --> 1:33:48.320 and we do this hunt for bigfoot. 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:50.559 Right, and you guys are there with them. 1:33:50.640 --> 1:33:52.519 Yeah, me and Joy are sitting up on a couple 1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:55.360 hay barrel things looking at the crowd. There's probably like 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:57.960 sixty people on this hay ride. Yeah, you know what 1:33:58.000 --> 1:34:00.600 I mean. And we do three at night. We do 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:05.880 them all fucking night. But they're the fucking funnest ship 1:34:06.080 --> 1:34:08.360 of my life. And I'm telling you right now, I 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:10.280 have no problem doing that. I wish I could do 1:34:10.320 --> 1:34:14.559 that every night in Vegas or something. But bro, we 1:34:14.600 --> 1:34:17.840 make it so fucking fun, like like suddenly you'll see 1:34:18.200 --> 1:34:20.720 a bigfoot. We got like, you know, suddenly we do 1:34:20.880 --> 1:34:23.680 you know, we have bigfoots out there, and then a 1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:27.040 shootout between hunters and a bigfoot, you know, and there's 1:34:27.040 --> 1:34:29.120 a you know, it's just super funny. But anyway, we 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:31.160 do a whole thing. It's like a haunted hay ride 1:34:31.160 --> 1:34:33.599 sort of, you know. But it's like really funny because 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:37.479 me and Enjoy are doing live commentary. But this last 1:34:37.560 --> 1:34:42.000 year we did bigfoots an alien things. So my brother's like, 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:43.800 we need to do aliens this year, and I'm like, 1:34:43.800 --> 1:34:46.160 how the fuck we can do that on the on 1:34:46.320 --> 1:34:50.479 the hay ride and he was like watch and man, 1:34:50.560 --> 1:34:54.800 he made that motherfuckers so funny and dope. It was 1:34:54.920 --> 1:34:58.559 so fucking amazing. Like there's a turned over car over 1:34:58.560 --> 1:35:01.880 here smoking and there's a guy laying there. Something lifted 1:35:01.960 --> 1:35:05.080 my car up and flammed it on the ground, you know, 1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:07.280 and he's like, I don't need help. 1:35:07.200 --> 1:35:09.880 So we pull him on the thing and then me 1:35:09.960 --> 1:35:10.599 and Joy are. 1:35:10.560 --> 1:35:15.320 Just cracking on him, as you know, and so uh, 1:35:15.400 --> 1:35:17.759 then we turned the corner and ship and my brother 1:35:17.840 --> 1:35:20.880 had like lights in the fucking woods and shit and 1:35:21.320 --> 1:35:24.839 sound effects the most corny look at UFO. 1:35:25.600 --> 1:35:26.880 This ship was amazing. Bro. 1:35:27.080 --> 1:35:30.840 Well, listen man, the three hundred Monster albums out right, huh, 1:35:30.880 --> 1:35:31.960 the three headed Monster albums. 1:35:32.120 --> 1:35:33.280 Yeah, we got two albums out. 1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:36.640 Two albums tours happened, and how many more dates left? 1:35:37.360 --> 1:35:38.120 Just like four? 1:35:38.320 --> 1:35:43.280 Four tours almost over? Yeah, you guys, man, I just listen, 1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:46.760 Like I said, I gotta I respect y'all for you know, 1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:51.000 just man, you guys build the empire over the last 1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:55.240 thirty years and done it independently, done it your way, 1:35:56.360 --> 1:35:59.040 So salute man is you man? I think a lot 1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:01.080 of a lot of people don't even understand that you, 1:36:01.080 --> 1:36:03.360 you guys laid the blueprint down for a lot of 1:36:03.439 --> 1:36:05.320 artists that are following it to this day, but they 1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:06.040 don't even know it. 1:36:06.160 --> 1:36:09.120 Yeah, man, Yeah, well you know, we're just doing it 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:12.680 like like the Ghetto Boys, did you know, like uh, 1:36:12.880 --> 1:36:15.799 Jane Smith, did you know what I mean? And we're 1:36:16.000 --> 1:36:19.800 we're yeah, doing it, following the way he did it, 1:36:20.160 --> 1:36:23.320 you know what I mean? And uh and in text 1:36:23.360 --> 1:36:25.160 doing it and it's Cordy. 1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:28.120 You don't really fucking need a label no more. Yeah, 1:36:28.240 --> 1:36:30.240 why the fuck do you need a label? You know 1:36:30.280 --> 1:36:30.559 what I mean? 1:36:30.600 --> 1:36:32.240 You can post your own ship. You can make your 1:36:32.240 --> 1:36:34.800 own video and post that on YouTube. Like what the 1:36:34.840 --> 1:36:35.920 fuck else is a label? 1:36:36.320 --> 1:36:36.880 You know what I mean? 1:36:37.040 --> 1:36:40.240 CDs don't even exist no more. There's no actual product anymore. 1:36:40.560 --> 1:36:43.800 There's nothing to store, there's nothing to ship. 1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:45.800 Right, you know what I'm saying. Well, I mean, you 1:36:45.880 --> 1:36:48.479 guys have a great like you guys have shit to sell. 1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:50.799 Like you said, it's still important for your self physical 1:36:50.840 --> 1:36:51.960 CDs and yeah. 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:54.320 But like, you know, I was a young artist, and 1:36:54.360 --> 1:36:57.679 they were like, if a young artists ask me for advice, 1:36:57.720 --> 1:37:01.800 I'd be like, fucking YouTube YouTuber label. 1:37:01.560 --> 1:37:05.680 And stay indie. Yeah, yo, you were saying saying this 1:37:05.720 --> 1:37:08.439 off the air bit but you for people who don't know, 1:37:08.479 --> 1:37:12.519 this is pretty freaking hilarious. But uh, you know there 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:15.400 is a young rapper who's on who's on the Freshman 1:37:15.439 --> 1:37:19.000 cover Baby Tron, Yeah, and his dad was signed to 1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:19.479 you guys. 1:37:19.720 --> 1:37:22.840 Yeah, well yeah I didn't see here. I didn't know 1:37:23.439 --> 1:37:28.360 anything about Baby Tron. Okay, I was doing I was 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:29.879 doing what's it called. 1:37:29.760 --> 1:37:30.360 In La. 1:37:32.960 --> 1:37:34.920 No Jumper, No Jumper. Yeah. 1:37:35.040 --> 1:37:40.639 And afterwards he's like, hey, yo, do you mind sticking around? 1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:41.639 And I was like wow. 1:37:41.720 --> 1:37:45.920 He's like, because we got an upcoming rapper who's you know, 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:49.000 really popping off really hard, you know, and getting you 1:37:49.040 --> 1:37:50.960 guys in the picture would be legendary, you know. 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:52.840 So I was like cool, you know, because we're both 1:37:52.840 --> 1:37:53.960 from Detroit or you know. 1:37:54.720 --> 1:37:58.320 So, yeah, he shows up and we're going to teach 1:37:58.320 --> 1:38:00.599 a picture, you know what I mean, he's and we're 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:02.000 taking a picture and he's. 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:05.760 Like, I grew up at your house, dog, and I 1:38:05.840 --> 1:38:07.760 was just like you. 1:38:07.680 --> 1:38:09.559 Know, like, say together, what did you say? 1:38:10.000 --> 1:38:12.040 He's like, I grew up at your house. You know, 1:38:12.400 --> 1:38:17.639 my dad is statistic, you know. And I was like, Bro, 1:38:17.800 --> 1:38:21.320 this kid is my son's friend. Like they used they 1:38:21.640 --> 1:38:24.640 He's been coming to my house for years watching wrestling. 1:38:24.280 --> 1:38:25.240 Pay per views. 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:26.840 Crazy, you know what I mean. 1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:30.519 And it's just I was just like what you know 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:33.680 what I mean? He's just chilling it, you know. Yeah. 1:38:33.920 --> 1:38:36.639 I was like, well, good for you, man, that's the ship. Brother. 1:38:37.080 --> 1:38:37.760 That shit's sick. 1:38:37.800 --> 1:38:40.479 Man. Do a fucking song, yea? Do it? Definitely? 1:38:40.520 --> 1:38:43.280 Know? Yeah, baby trying. You owe me for all the 1:38:43.360 --> 1:38:46.160 fucking barbecues, all that food, all the I was. I 1:38:46.200 --> 1:38:47.679 was froing the bill on the pay per view. 1:38:48.000 --> 1:38:49.800 Can give me a hot sixteen? 1:38:51.160 --> 1:38:53.880 There it is, man, Look violent Jay. Appreciate you pulling 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:54.280 up bro. 1:38:54.800 --> 1:38:56.879 Hell yeah, I appreciate you, my man from real. 1:38:57.720 --> 1:38:59.120 Shit fire good ship. 1:38:59.160 --> 1:38:59.360 Man. 1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:02.120 What's going on? Man? Wanna shout out to our family 1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:05.840 A hard dean for presenting to you another interview. All right, 1:39:05.880 --> 1:39:07.920 there's another interview coming tomorrow and the next day. In 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:09.840 the next day, shout out to Harden though. If you're 1:39:09.840 --> 1:39:12.360 in Las Vegas, man, the number one dispensary in the world. 1:39:12.439 --> 1:39:15.080 They are our family. There are brothers, there are fucking 1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:17.080 dogs over there. Man. We love them. 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