1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I'm your host, 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. I'm gonna tell you something, everybody. It's time 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success or you hear me 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: say that all the time, and start writing your own. 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: And I always tell people to leave with their gifts. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: That's your passion, that's what you really want to do, 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: and don't let your age, friends, family, or coworkers stop 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. The interviews I 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: do on Money Making Conversations provide the consumer and business 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: owner access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, and industry decision makers. 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: My next guest is a celebrity. Just live it, fair 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: for me, Fair for me? When next yes is Michael Hyatt. 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: She was born in England to just making parents. At 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: the age of ten, she immigrated to the United States 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: with a mother and two siblings, living in Maryland and 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: later you Washington, d C. She went on to study 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: acting at HBCU Howard University for undergraduate degree. Her numerous 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: television credits include Get This, The West Wing, The Wire, 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: The Kill Point two, Detective Ray Donald, Crazy Ex Girlfriend, 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: and most recently, That's Just a Few. I'm not gonna 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: act like that's it. It's just a few. She was 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: recently seen I Just saw on TV in the movie 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: with Denzel Washington, The Little Things. She is currently starring 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth season of f X hit series Snowfall. 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: You Gotta watch it. It airs every Wednesday at ten 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: pm on FFX. Please walk with the money making conversations. 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm so happy, the interviewer. I'm so happy to see 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: this beautiful smile, Michael Hyatt. Just keep smiling. Smile for 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: this interview, because I'm never gonna see you smile this 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: much in any of the roles that you do. But 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: you're doing so brilliantly, and you have this beautiful smile. 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: First of all, your your beautiful woman personality wise and 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: things you've done in your career. Let's let's let's talk 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: about let's get started. Because of I'm a big advocate 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: of HBCUs and Howard Universities right there, it's kind of 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: like the Harvard University of HBCUs. Tell me why you 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: went there and walk away with some of your experience, 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: because we all know the Vice President of the the United 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: States is on Howard graduate. Talk about that experience, Michael, Um, 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Howard was, in hindsight, a tremendous experience. Um. You know, 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: I I, my mom went went to Howard University, and 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: I I was not a good student in high school 51 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: at all. I was you know, I was a D 52 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: average at best, and I barely got out of high school. 53 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: And so it was it was, it was it was 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: my mother's legacy that really got me into Howard. And 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really appreciate it until because I just wasn't 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: thinking like that. I was a silly teenager. Um. And 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: when I got there, the then dean of the school 58 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: said to me, look, let's just be real. You are 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: here because of your mother, but you would stay here 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: because of you, So you need to make a decision. 61 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: And I walked into the theater in ira Aldridge Theater 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: at Howard and immediately the energy of the space just 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: took me over and I knew that this is where 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: I belonged, and my world, my consciousness changed immediately. Um, 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: I had found myself, I found my calling. I had 66 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: found where I belonged. And you know it was it 67 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: was tough academically just for me to get a grip 68 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: and catch a clue about what was needed for me 69 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: from me, but I will tell you, you know. And 70 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: and then I I joined society, deal with society, divine intelligence, 71 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: versatile artists and just had so many wonderful experiences as 72 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: an African woman surrounded by African people. I did not 73 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: understand its depth in my spirit until I went to 74 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: graduate school at n y U, which is a completely experience, um, 75 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: you know or whatever. And it was when I showed 76 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: up there that I realized just how much I got 77 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: from Howard University. And I have a son who's ten. 78 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: He's going to an HBCU may not be Howard, I 79 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: don't know whatever he do he because I understand how 80 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: important it is for my African man son to be 81 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: surrounded by himself, um, to live and swim in that power, 82 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: that greatness before he sets out into the world. It 83 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: was a tremendous difference and it has served me throughout 84 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: my life. And then which is you've lived and living 85 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: a beautiful life before we get to f X. You 86 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: know when when when we talk about gifts, because I 87 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: talked about that at the top, you know, and you said, Richard, 88 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: I went to college and basically got to college because 89 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: my mom provided with an opportunity. But I got there 90 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: it was either sink or swim, and singer swim tied 91 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: to my efforts. But your talents. When did you really 92 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: realize that this this acting? And then in the college, 93 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: but then when left college when it really started thinking 94 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: and this is what I want to do for the 95 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: rest of my life. Um. I you know, I am 96 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: a late bloomer. I have been surrounded by the art 97 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: my whole life. My father was an actor in Jamaica 98 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: and in England, and my mother is a museum director. 99 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: So I was surrounded by artists that just a what 100 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: it was, just an is in my life. And you know, 101 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: then I, you know, went to Howard and I was 102 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: in this world and then when I finished Howard, it 103 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: was just it just was I didn't know what else 104 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: to do. I mean, I knew how to survive, because 105 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: every artist needs to know how to survive, but it 106 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: was just a clear understanding from my my it was 107 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: and knowing it was a calling. I knew that it was, 108 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: but I didn't know how, And I don't know that 109 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: any artist knows the how. And I always tell people 110 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: you don't need to know how. You don't need to 111 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: know when how cool. You just need to say yes 112 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: to whatever it is your truth is, and by saying 113 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: yes you it will flow through you. That is how 114 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: I have found. I didn't calculate any of this. I 115 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: knew that I would be successful, but the how I 116 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: had no idea, or the when I had no idea. 117 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: And it has been a roller coaster, there's no doubt 118 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: about it. I have learned as I have gone and off, 119 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: and I have learned the demons within myself that I 120 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: had to heal in order from me to embrace the 121 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: success that was willingly waiting for me. So it's been 122 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: a journey emotionally, spiritually, and artistically from me to get 123 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: to where I am. But I always knew in my 124 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: being where I belonged. Wow. And when we look at 125 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: the crew, I'm talking to Michael Hyatt, she star one 126 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: of the one of the many stars of the series. 127 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: UH Snowfaller's or facts that you can watch every Wednesday, 128 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: ten pm. Your character, real estate agent, getting you know 129 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: your son, drug dealing, you know your husband? Or community activists. Um, 130 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: we said the seving. I know l A really well. 131 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: I lived in l A fifteen years. So you say 132 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: south Central, I knew exactly what you're talking about. When 133 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: you say Lamert Park, I knew exactly what you're talking about. 134 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: So the story lines made sense to me and often 135 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: times sad to me, because I knew exactly all those 136 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: communities were affected by crack and this and they it 137 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: was basically a true storyline where the government was selling 138 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: drugs that they sold in the black community in this 139 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: case South Central, Watts and the Jungle and used that 140 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: to buy fund and Nickaragren war efforts. And I didn't care. 141 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about your character and and build and 142 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: why is it important? Because this whole serious bore off 143 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: the backs of John Singleton, who was no longer with us. 144 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about your relationship with John singletons, how you 145 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: were brought into the project, and then let's talk about 146 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the growth of your characters the first three seasons leading 147 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: into the fourth season. Um, the job came as a 148 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: simple audition. It's how I've gotten most of the work 149 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: that I've done. It was, you know, my manager said, 150 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's something coming along my table, and I 151 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: think you should look into it. So I auditioned. I 152 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: had no I mean, I heard that John was was 153 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: associated with it, but you know, I didn't know John 154 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: Singleton at the time. I certainly was a fan of 155 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: so many people are, but that in and of itself, 156 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: you know, it was a job. I was unemployed and 157 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: I was looking for a job. You know, I take 158 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: the romance out of it because I think sometimes the 159 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: romance creates a separation between the artist and the work. 160 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: So I try my best when I'm telling my story 161 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: to take all the fluff out of it so that 162 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: it is recognizable to my fellow artists, and it it 163 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: is perceived as attainable because it absolutely is. Um. So 164 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I what once I got the job, I I needed 165 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: to understand because I had been a part of a 166 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: story like this before, you know, being the wire. I 167 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: wanted to have an understanding of where is this going? UM. 168 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: And John was so wonderful and he came into my 169 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: trailer and sat me down and said, Okay, this is 170 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: the arc of her story. We don't know the new 171 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: you know the details. You know, we flitch out with 172 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: flush out with every seat with every episode. UM, but 173 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: this is the arc. And once I understood, once I 174 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: understood that this woman represented his own life, the women 175 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: in his life, various women in his own life, in 176 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: his own world, that I felt more comfortable because I 177 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: know that I'm connecting to somebody that many people will 178 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: understand and and will will recognize and identify with. That 179 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: was important to me. UM. So you know, once once 180 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: John laid it out, I was on board. And and 181 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean this, this role Sissy speaks to every mother. 182 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: This is the sperience, whether whether the issue is UH. 183 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: You know that your son is dealing you know, crack 184 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: or cocaine. Those are just symptoms, Those are just side things. 185 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: Really we're dealing with the struggle of UM, the evolution 186 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: of your child, you know, the transition from childhood to manhood, 187 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: the transition from you setting his path to him taking 188 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: the reins and creating his own path. And who hasn't 189 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: fallen and needed to get up in whatever way, and 190 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: and the journey of how that works. And then the 191 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: journey of the woman herself. Who is she outside of 192 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: being this young man's mother? Now he is at an 193 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: age you know he once you send them off to college? 194 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: The empty nest syndrome, the who am I outside of 195 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: being the mother? And then the journey of of of 196 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: of how do you navigate continuing to because you don't 197 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: throw them away? Right? How do you navigate continuing to 198 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: hold onto them but needing to let them go? And 199 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: then the journey of a relationship with with the men 200 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: that you have known since you were a young child, 201 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: a young teenager. Uh, and and then that relationship falls 202 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: apart and then it comes back together again. All of 203 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: these beautiful things are our journeys that every woman can 204 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: relate to. And Uh, it's tough, it's it's it's it's 205 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: hard to do these scenes a lot of times. But 206 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: I know that I'm speaking to every aspect of my 207 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: womanhood and many aspects of my sister's woman. So it's 208 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: a journey that I welcome. 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And 224 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: we're live here out the Perez family home, just waiting 225 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: for the and there they go, almost on time. This morning, 226 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: Mom is coming out the front door, strong with a 227 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: double arm kid carry. Looks like Dad has the bags, 228 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh, but the diaper 229 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. But mom 230 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler. 231 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: And now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about 232 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: nine or ten, has secured herself in the booster seat. 233 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Dad SIPs the bag clothes and they're off, But looks 234 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on 235 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: the roof of the car, and there it goes. Oh, 236 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't 237 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: sweat the small stuff. Just nailed the big stuff, like 238 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right 239 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: seat for their agent's eyes. 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I'm April Denuity, host 245 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: of the new podcast Navigating Adoption, presented by adopt Us Kids. 246 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: Each episode brings you compelling, real life adoption stories told 247 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: by the families that lived them, with commentary from experts. 248 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Visit adopt us Kids dot org, slash podcast, or subscribe 249 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: to Navigating Adoption, presented by adopt Us Kids, brought to 250 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: you by the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services, 251 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Administration for Children and Families and the Council. Well, you 252 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: do a fantastic job. And you know, we we we 253 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: talked about these characters. You know, when I look at 254 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: the it feels like I'm watching Every time I watch 255 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: an episode of it feels like I'm watching a short movie. 256 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: It's the way it's shot, the greediness, the language. You know, 257 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: if you have a problem with the in word, don't 258 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: look at it, don't don't watch no fall. Okay, if 259 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: they there there's there's adult language. And I'm just talking 260 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: because a lot of people will see cable they don't. 261 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: But that's that's why I love about this series, because, 262 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: as they say, the script is real, the tonage is real, 263 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: the characterizations there is there is violence on this and 264 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: and I've never seen a black drama like this on television, 265 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: and I think it's unique, you know, like because why 266 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: I was something different. You know, Wire was the different different, 267 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: but this right here was it was different because it 268 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: was tied to a family. And you guys are this family. 269 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: And that's why I relate to the parenting aspect of 270 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: what you're saying. What the where? The wire was about 271 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: a lot of different people being caught up in the 272 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: drug It was about politicians. It was about the police 273 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and then how they would manipulate 274 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: numbers and say they were doing good and they weren't 275 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: doing good. This is about you, in particular, because you 276 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: taught Alter I would do whatever I need to do 277 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: to get my son out. It's about you and your 278 00:17:50,359 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: relationship with your son. Please tell us about that relationship. UM. 279 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Franklin is you know as a mother, Um, you you 280 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: watch your child grow, you can see their greatness UM, 281 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: from very young right, UM, and Sissy has always seen 282 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: Franklin's greatness. She always knew she saw her husband in 283 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: her child. She saw the leader that her husband, Alton 284 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: is in her son, and she knew it was only 285 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: a matter of time that he would do great things. Um, 286 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: and her whole life she's been invested in that reality. 287 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: So it is heartbreaking that when she when she sees 288 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: him take this turn, m and you see this struggle 289 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: UM with him constantly trying to you know, we talked 290 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: about the change from episode two to episode three, UM, 291 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: where when she decides I'm going to help you, you know, 292 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: because she tried. She tried to do the moral thing 293 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: of walking away and shutting the door and saying I 294 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: am not with you, UM, and it didn't work. You know, 295 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: you tried. You tried a tactic, You're trying to save 296 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: your child, and it didn't work. This is not a 297 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: woman who is going to walk away from her child 298 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: for real, for real. And when he got shot, it 299 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: was it was unnatural. She went to his aid and 300 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: now and there was a discussion that that we didn't 301 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: film that. There was a discussion with Franklin and Sissy 302 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: where Franklin says, momm trying to better our community. I'm 303 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: trying to do the great things that we deserve. And 304 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: I understood that, and it's a nice step way to 305 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: get there. But one nobody knew that this is what 306 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: it would turn into. Franklin certainly didn't. We had no 307 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: conscious he had no nobody in the country had any 308 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: idea that Crack was going to evolve in the way 309 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: it does. We didn't have. This was a first of 310 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: its kind. So um I understood what he was doing 311 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: and why he was doing it because it follows the 312 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: same path as his as his father, and I was 313 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: there with Elton during the Black Panther journey, so I 314 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: get it. So now it is I understand the core 315 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: of what you're doing. Let me help you try my 316 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: best to do what I can to help you heal 317 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: this and get out of this so that we can 318 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: get back to our lives. And it's just that constant 319 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: investing in your child because you believe in their greatness 320 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: if we can just get out of this mess, you know. 321 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: And that's just the constant back and forth that happens 322 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: with this family, with so many families, you know, the 323 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: beauty of this series. And you know we're talking about 324 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: your family. But you have Irene who plays the investigative 325 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: reporter that her character builds this season and when she 326 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: gets information about what's really going on, and like I said, 327 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, in a way, Franklin is caught up in 328 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: something that that was bigger than him. He didn't know 329 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: about what the government was doing. He didn't know that 330 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: this was a calculated fundraising activity that the Reagan administration 331 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: back it was tied to Oliver North. You know all 332 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: these names you could you can flip through the pages, 333 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: just the stories right there. Oliver dorth He the one Helm, 334 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: the whole Niko rob drug and selling drugs and guns 335 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: and for those campaigns and wrong Reagan they knew about 336 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: all this going on. So again the black community was 337 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: being used. Yes, they were selling drugs, but guess what 338 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: they were selling drugs and being fed drugs, cheap drugs 339 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: by the way on the counturally low prices, so they can, 340 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: so they can for military effort. And so you had Irene, 341 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: then you have Teddy Gustavo who's crazy, and then you 342 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: have all these that that's what makes a series so 343 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: unique because I don't have to focus so much on 344 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: your family. And poor Leon he's trapped, he got Scully, 345 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: his situation, all these born through all these characters. It's 346 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: all these characters. They are so colorful that it's really 347 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: like I said, it's like watching the movie and it's 348 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: so intense. And you know the scene where you was 349 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: caught up with the police officer, you know that was 350 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: I felt so nervous for you, Michael, I felt I 351 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: felt like, oh my god. You know, talk about that moment, 352 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: not revealing exactly what went on, but my god, you 353 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: you saw that scene and I thought something bad was 354 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: gonna go down. It's a bad thing go down, but 355 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: not like we expected. But talk about preparing yourself for 356 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: those moments because if FX is allowed to see no 357 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: snowfall to keep it real, yeah yeah, um, preparing for that, 358 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: preparing for anything that comes up in this gut wrenching show. 359 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: You really just have to well, I just I can't 360 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: think about it too much. Really, I mean, in order 361 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: to do this kind of work for me, I have 362 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: to throw ego out the window, um, and just allow 363 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: myself to be very raw. Um, and whatever comes from 364 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: that is what's gonna come. And and in in that 365 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: I trust that I know that it is the truth 366 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: because I'm not trying to do anything. Um, I learned 367 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: my lines. I understand obviously, I understand the story that 368 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: The wonderful thing about this story, um, is this this 369 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: show is that it is filled with some tremendous writers. 370 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: So it makes the work so easy because I don't 371 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: have to second guess what's on the page. I can 372 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: fully lend myself to the words on the page because 373 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: they right so beautifully, they write so truthfully. Um, and 374 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: then you know what, it is uncomfortable. You know this 375 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: scene has already been aired so I can talk about it. 376 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: It was incredibly uncomfortable. It was all night. It was 377 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: take after take. It was you know, in those damn 378 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: handcuffs and in a graveyard. It was just how did 379 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: they shoot you? Bang in your head though? When you 380 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: was in the back seat, in the back seat of 381 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: this thing, over and over and over and over. I 382 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: think I had a little knogg but shoot for a 383 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: few more days or something. So it was fine. And 384 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: they kept saying, Michael, are you okay? Okay, I'm just 385 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: because because soon as I said, you know, because you know, 386 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: I've cast so many I've been fortunate to be part 387 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: of production like that, and I go, she banged her head? Okay, 388 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: how many times did he shoot the scene her banging? 389 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: Because he applies to break? So I knew that was 390 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: like in my mind, I watched this team and said 391 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: when because it shot it this way, No, I think 392 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: she banged her head. I tried my best. I mean, 393 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, they don't have me doing a bunch of 394 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: stunts and stuff. But I mean, you know, it's it's 395 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: just I don't I don't want the buffers and the 396 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: stunt doubles or all that stuff. If I can do it, 397 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: if it's remotely doable, I'm just gonna do it because 398 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just more truthful that way, you know. Unfortunately, 399 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: when I got to see you know, all of the 400 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: North on trial, you know about this whole situation where 401 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: That's why I said that you're taking a true story 402 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: and putting in a dramatic series and you're playing it. 403 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: Some characters may be redeveloped, so may be fictional, But 404 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: the beauty of it, this is a story about a 405 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: mother's passionate love for her son trying to get him 406 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: a way out and in the process is she wrong? 407 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Is Michael? Is your character wrong? Is Sincy's character wrong 408 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: in her approach? Because you know he does some things, 409 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: especially to those bookstore owners that was really cold. But 410 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: but tell us is Sincy? Are you? Are you wrong 411 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: for leading them in that direction? Are you just so 412 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: determined to get him out? Boy? Oh, that's that's a 413 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: deep question. And the only way I can answer it 414 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: is um wrong? Is in the eye of the viewer. 415 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: But I tell you what though, I yes, Sissy has 416 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: compromised a great deal of herself. And it does not 417 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: feel good. You know, it does not feel good. Um, 418 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: Cissy has been compromising from you know, even taking this 419 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: job as the the manager, the property manager, um with 420 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: with for tofus who is as crooked as they come. 421 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: H turning a blind eye to that because why I 422 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: need to put food on the table. And and at 423 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: your husband, right, I mean, and and you know, but right, 424 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: and and it's it's it's it's almost making okay, yeah, 425 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: you know. And then and then that gentleman whatever his 426 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: name was. I mean, there is no doubt that Sissy 427 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: looks at herself in the mirror and realizes that this 428 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: is not who she ever desired to be, ever meant 429 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: to be. But it's a means to an end. And 430 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: it is my son. And if I don't, who the 431 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: hell am I going to be that day when I 432 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: turn away and say no, I'm not doing it anymore 433 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: and I wake up and my son is dead? What 434 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: what kind of life? Who? Who? Who would Sissy be? 435 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: And when when she was faced with that reality that 436 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: death is the next option for her child. She had 437 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: to compromise. But you know it's it's it's always with 438 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: the understanding that I'm doing this. I'm taking two steps 439 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: back because I'm gonna take three steps forward and because 440 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: of that vision of the steps forward for Cissy, it's 441 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: worth it. Wow, mother knows best is I don't always 442 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: know best, just trying are damnedest to make things work. 443 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: This is true, but in the sense because you give 444 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: him artists you you you hear your husband complaining, So 445 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: mother knows best. There your son, you're directing him to 446 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: do certain things, whether he and what you you're saying. 447 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: You're trying to get him out. Like I said, the 448 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: beauty of this series is that it gives you so 449 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: many different ways to portray how this community is. Because 450 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: you have a book show on us where you take 451 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: away that's a different form of drug deal and you 452 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: take them out of their lives bilihoods by doing the 453 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: deal that they thought was an honest deal. So that's 454 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: a way of just taking the community and you told 455 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: them to get that deal done. Your husband, Alton tells 456 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: you mother knows best that Hey, you're dealing with a crook, 457 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: a snake in the grass, you go stop that. I'll 458 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to get my son out of 459 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: this mess, out of this world and get his life right. 460 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: But the beauty of it all is is that is 461 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen five. You can catch it every Wednesday. You're 462 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: an amazing actress. Uh you have a beautiful smile. I 463 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: don't see it that much on this episode, but my 464 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: my god, you are a mother that I would want 465 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: because guess what, You're taking care of it. And you 466 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: know when I look at shows like this, you know, 467 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: because here's here's I'm going. This is my compliment all 468 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: my life. I've always wanted a black godfather all I've 469 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: like all my life. I wanted to see it play 470 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: out where there was love tied to the violence, and 471 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: why the violence, because this is a good story to ellen, 472 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: and I finally got. I wanted my soprano. Okay, I 473 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: have it. I have it in Snowfall. I have my soprano, 474 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: and and and thank you and thank you for allowing 475 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: me to enjoy a series. Thank you for getting me 476 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: involved your So it's hard for Leon. I don't know 477 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to him. Poor boy helped a little cracker. 478 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Now he's sleeping on the streets. You know you. They're 479 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: platting his half, brighting this half so many stories that 480 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: are gonna get herself killed. I don't know this newspaper again. 481 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: What I love about this show is I have so 482 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: many times I can turn on the show. I know 483 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be two or three solid story lines that 484 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: gonna get me emotionally involved. But more important to the the 485 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: storyline that I cared the most about is your relationship 486 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: with your son. Thank you, thank you, thank you so 487 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: very much. I am grateful to have the opportunity to 488 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: reach you and all of us. I am so grateful. 489 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for watching us. Absolutely and I'm gonna watch 490 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: it every Wednesday, f FX ten pm, snowfall. And this 491 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: is beautiful talented actors by you know from the Jamaica 492 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: parents and Britain and came over in tens. She went 493 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: to an hbc U. HBCU changed her life and her son. 494 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna go to HBCU, preferably Howard. But if he 495 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: doesn't go to how she love it's an HBCU. She's 496 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: cool with it. But more importantly, I love you and 497 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: don't change, Okay, I love you. Thank you so much 498 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: thank you. If you want to hear more money Making 499 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: Conversation interviews, please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. 500 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Um Roy Sean McDonald I am your host. 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