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Speaker 1: It is Monday, the twenty fifth of November twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and it is time for Morning Combat. Hello everyone, my

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Speaker 1: name is Duke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm the host of this program.

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Speaker 1: Next to my trusty Steed and co hosts from CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports at LILT as many other places, I think the

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Speaker 1: one and only Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, how are you

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Speaker 1: fired up? Man?

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm packed in, I'm holding, I'm smiling, I'm living,

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Speaker 3: I'm golden.

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Speaker 1: Let's rock this house.

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Speaker 2: Which nineties reference is this?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Come on, come on? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, you know, yeah, I wonder. I wonder

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Speaker 3: what life you lived in the nineties. Often, to be

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Speaker 3: honest with I.

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Speaker 2: Was in high school.

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Speaker 1: All right, It's fine. Apparently I'm being told a third line,

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Speaker 1: which means which makes you lame?

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Speaker 3: I mean going give him going by your music choices.

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Speaker 1: I just got to ask you, where were you while

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Speaker 1: we were getting high? You know what I mean, because.

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Speaker 2: I like, yeah I was.

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Speaker 1: I went to the Cannibal Corpse concert yesterday. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into that. You want to set you in Philadelphia, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me. Philadelphia, by the way, nice town.

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Speaker 1: You're like, if you were like spent time in phillyp

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Speaker 1: I've done some time, then okay you can. You could

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Speaker 1: die there. You gotta be careful. I went to Eastern

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Speaker 1: State Penitentiary while we were retort it. It was kind of cool,

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Speaker 1: but nice town. Actually, they don't mosh. They're they're kind

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Speaker 1: of cowardly in terms of the pit. I was very scry.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get right into it.

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Speaker 3: You were attacking me, harassing me on social media.

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Speaker 2: I was harassing you.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was telling you how much I missed you.

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Speaker 3: Brian with live shots of can can we get the

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Speaker 3: picture up there that you put out and you you

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Speaker 3: added me on there of here's here's here's cool dad

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Speaker 3: Luke at the concert.

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Speaker 1: By the way, notice quite explicitly above my left ear

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Speaker 1: is an ear plug. I'm that guy. All right, well

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Speaker 1: this is the thing.

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Speaker 3: Because you put it out there, a lot of people

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Speaker 3: all wonder what Campbell thinks about this. But then I

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Speaker 3: started to look at that picture, Luke, how cool are

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Speaker 3: you if you're going to a a a flesh eating

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Speaker 3: concert and you're sitting up in the upper deck, yes,

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Speaker 3: with an air piece? Yeah, I have to be honest

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Speaker 3: with you, not what I think of when I watch that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, Jay, can we hit it up there? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but there's not kids at the show, and there's some

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Speaker 3: twenty year old you can't get down there and throw

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Speaker 3: your weight around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, here's the deal. I was with my

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Speaker 1: wife number one and she didn't want to be on

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Speaker 1: the floor for two reasons. One, she doesn't want to mash,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. But two, she's short, she's cheeky Tika,

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Speaker 1: she's five to two, so she can't literally see anything.

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Speaker 1: So I paid extra to go to what they call

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Speaker 1: the crow's nest and it was fine up there. So look,

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Speaker 1: I'm too old to be beating up kids. Bro, I'm

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Speaker 1: just too fucking old to be doing that. I've had

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Speaker 1: my I've had my day in the pit, and you.

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Speaker 3: Guys eat Friday embryo when you're up there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: what's kind of what's the delicacy of the show like this?

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Speaker 1: This is true hot dogs, hot dogs, but they rock.

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Speaker 2: This is the Corpse Grinder official shirt of the lead singer.

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Speaker 1: You were amazing.

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Speaker 3: You're a psychological experiment. I feel like you're a good

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Speaker 3: education away from being a ditch digger.

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Speaker 1: I really feel like, probably here's the last thing I'll

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Speaker 1: say about it the last thing I'll say about defensive

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Speaker 1: death metal. It's not forever. But the reality is this.

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Speaker 1: I like boundary pushing music. I like that hip hop,

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Speaker 1: and I like that in my metal. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the conventional stuff. It bores me. It does nothing, that

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Speaker 1: does nothing, It rarely does something for me. I like

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Speaker 1: it when people make like not merely aggressive, but unusual music.

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Speaker 1: You like lyrics about rape is.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is a song called strip, raped and strangled.

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Speaker 4: So hey, great way to start the show. It is

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Speaker 4: Monday of something right, it is so over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Let's get this started on that lovely note. There was

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Speaker 4: a big boxing fight on Saturday. It was at the

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Speaker 4: MGM Grand It was between Deontay Wilder, you're reigning and

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Speaker 4: defending WBC champion, and Luis Ortiz's was a rematch in

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Speaker 4: the making. We had talked about it extensively, Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 4: and in the end, Deontay Wilder wins in the seventh round.

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Speaker 4: Here's the interesting part about it, however, Brian, as you

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Speaker 4: well know, he was losing every minute of that fight. Essentially,

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Speaker 4: there was maybe and when I say maybe, I do

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Speaker 4: mean maybe one round.

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Speaker 3: You could give I had six to nothing straight up.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly how I had it too. I saw one

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Speaker 1: place bad left hook. I think Scott christ the bad

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Speaker 1: left hook had it fifty nine. Where the fifty nine?

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Speaker 1: Forget what the matthews on this one?

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Speaker 3: You want to float around to Wilder. Okay, but this

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Speaker 3: was one side.

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Speaker 2: This was a one sided event. I did it on dissected.

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Speaker 1: You can just see how much better of a boxer

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Speaker 1: Luis Ortiz was.

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Speaker 2: But in the end it just it just didn't matter. Brian.

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Speaker 1: One shot a right hand from Wilder puts him down.

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Speaker 1: Two questions for you to start today's show. Number one,

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Speaker 1: what does this fight tell you new if anything? And secondly,

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Speaker 1: where do we rank Deontay Wilder all time in terms

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Speaker 1: of power punching?

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Speaker 3: The question You're almost connected in a way because this guy,

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Speaker 3: you can say it without any form of hyperbole or

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Speaker 3: asterisk next to it. He has legendary power. We're watching

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Speaker 3: the making of a special and unique career. The difference

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Speaker 3: in the first fight, I told you in the preview

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Speaker 3: coming in was conditioning. What do we see from Lewis Ortiz?

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Speaker 3: The second round of time came and ripped, came in ready,

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Speaker 3: he has no excuses to make after this loss. He

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Speaker 3: was winning six to nothing on my card. He looked

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Speaker 3: like he was en route to potentially should this have

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Speaker 3: gone the distance, having a legitimate claim no scorecard issues

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Speaker 3: this time around. All three judges had him comfortably ahead

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Speaker 3: at the time of stoppage. And yet, just like Wilder

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Speaker 3: said after the fight, he said this quote many times,

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Speaker 3: they have to be perfect for twelve rounds, I have

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Speaker 3: to be perfect for two seconds. And it's insane how

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Speaker 3: unique and special of a fighter he is. He has

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Speaker 3: legendary power. Is it better than Sonny Liston's, Mike Tyson's

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Speaker 3: Ernie Shaver's really hard to really sort of pick that out.

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Speaker 3: But the difference I think between him and some of

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Speaker 3: these legendary heavyweights. Right We've seen guys like Rocky Marciano

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Speaker 3: rally against Jersey, Joe Wolcot for a dramatic knockout, George

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Speaker 3: Foreman against Michael Moore, but those are sort of aberrations

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Speaker 3: in their career. Yet Wilder is consistently doing that every

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Speaker 3: single fight, almost to the point of strategy. He's a

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Speaker 3: lot smarter than we realize. He's not going out there

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Speaker 3: and getting a lucky punch. He's downloading information the same

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Speaker 3: way a flood Mayweather would using that later, not the

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Speaker 3: same IQ, not the same style. But my point is

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Speaker 3: he's doing the things he needs to do to win

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Speaker 3: the fight, which is he's not worried about the scorecards.

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Speaker 3: He knows he's in better shape than you, and he's

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Speaker 3: gonna sort of wait until that second half if he

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Speaker 1: You early, and wait till you wear down.

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Speaker 3: And little spoiler Eilert Professor Salt and Pepper really did

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Speaker 3: a good job this week on Dissected sort of breaking

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Speaker 3: that down. And the reason why I say he's so

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Speaker 3: unique and special is this. He's not Ali or Fraser

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Speaker 3: or Tyson or Bo or holy Field, and he's never

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Speaker 3: gonna be. And we as fans and critics have to

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Speaker 3: get to that point where we go, I'm gonna stop

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Speaker 3: comparing him against them and saying when is he gonna

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Speaker 3: square up his boxing? When he's not gonna do any

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Speaker 3: of that. He's going down one lane of the road

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Speaker 3: and relying on his one superhuman strength and building his

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Speaker 3: way that historically at six seven, with that athleticism, he

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Speaker 3: can fight against anybody, he's going to be in any fight.

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Speaker 3: This is now a special, unique career in a ten

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Speaker 3: titles in an era that seems to be a little

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Speaker 3: bit more deep than the last one, the Klitchko era.

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Speaker 3: These are not all legends and killers that he's fighting,

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Speaker 3: but he wants to fight everybody and within those grounds.

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Speaker 3: Except for the first fight with Steverr when he broke

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Speaker 3: his right hand in round three, and except for that

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Speaker 3: legendary fight against Tyson Fury that we're going to see

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Speaker 3: a second time in which he dropped Fury twice and

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Speaker 3: nearly decapitated him. If you go twelve rounds with him,

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Speaker 3: you're not making the final round. And once we stop

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Speaker 3: trying to force him to be who he's never going

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Speaker 3: to be as a guy who came into this sport

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Speaker 3: late at nineteen years old, and just celebrate.

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Speaker 1: What he is.

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Speaker 3: He builds the entire fight around that one moment. And

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Speaker 3: it wasn't one of those crazy helicopter shots people can

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Speaker 3: watch difect it and see it. It was a perfect

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Speaker 3: we have to stop and go, not only is this

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Speaker 3: guy special and unique, but who the hell outside of Tyson.

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Speaker 3: Fury has a chance to beat him right now. Every

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Speaker 3: time he goes in there, it's mussy TV, and he

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Speaker 3: delivers the damn boom. I hope, Luke and we can

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Speaker 3: and talk about what it can do and be big.

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Speaker 3: I hope that this fight, with the ESPN and Fox

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Speaker 3: connection coming together for a joint network pay per view,

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Speaker 3: can push Wilder's brand to a level where it deserves

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Speaker 3: to be, because what else would you want in a

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Speaker 3: renaissance heavyweight division than to have the main guy, the

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Speaker 3: guy who's probably the best of them all. Although let's

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Speaker 3: give Fury a chance to prove that in the second fight.

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Speaker 3: Be charismatic, be coming out during fight week and being like, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill a man one day in the ring

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Speaker 3: and make crazy comments that make headlines, come out there

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Speaker 3: with a eyes wide shut mask and all this wild

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Speaker 3: stuff and then knock suckers out. This is exactly who

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Speaker 3: we want, This is exactly who we need. And I've

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Speaker 3: never been a big Wilder cheerleader from day one, but

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Speaker 3: at this point, if you are a critic, what leg

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Speaker 3: are you standing on?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they're gonna say

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Speaker 1: anymore about this guy. You know, it's so funny to me.

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Speaker 1: It's like people keep waiting for the party trick to

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Speaker 1: not work, and we're nearly fifty fights into his career

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Speaker 1: and it just keeps working. Now you can argue that

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Speaker 1: Tyson Fury maybe should have won the first fight. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I think he can go on the fight. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: He got screwed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he did so too.

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Speaker 1: But at the end, at the same time, the dynamism

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Speaker 1: of that punch and how it changed the fight and

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Speaker 1: what the intrigue it sends for the rematch is simply undeniable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the reality. You kind of know what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen against Tyson Fury. He's gonna out box Deantay Wilder,

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Speaker 1: There's just no question about it. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: in the tiniest of windows, when your defense is just

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Speaker 1: Mike Coppinger of the Athletic has reported that, but there

435
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Speaker 1: was no announcement in October. November is almost over Floyd

436
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 1: teasing twenty twenty. And then lastly, Brian, I'll pitch this

437
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Speaker 1: to you his first as well, TMZ reporting for whatever

438
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,560
Speaker 1: that is worth again for whatever that is. He say

439
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,879
Speaker 1: what you want about t MC, they get it right.

440
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,280
Speaker 1: They do get scoops. That's what TMC like they report

441
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 1: on like woe VICKI and bad baby, but like they

442
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 1: get the scoops okay, saying that what Floyd is looking

443
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 1: at is either Paquiao rematch okay, or just to box

444
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 1: the ears off some UFC fighter terribly out of his depth.

445
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Speaker 1: What do you make of all of this, Floyd Mayweather news?

446
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Speaker 3: Because of how you laid out in the beginning that

447
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,639
Speaker 3: it was literally like forty eight hours after he was

448
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 3: in La opening up one of his new lines of

449
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 3: fitness boxing gyms, tells Reuter's what you said, I'm never

450
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 3: coming back, but focused on the danger of the sport,

451
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,920
Speaker 3: reference the lives lost in the ring in twenty nineteen,

452
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,400
Speaker 3: and then a day or two later is going full

453
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Speaker 3: throttle with this. And then because you see UFC and

454
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 3: Dana White and others associated with UFC regramming it on ig,

455
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 3: I think you have to believe that it's more likely

456
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Speaker 3: at forty two would be forty three by the time

457
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Speaker 3: he comes back holding that fifty to zero record, that

458
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 3: it's more related to fighting an MMA fighter, and it's

459
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 3: one of those things. Look that look Floyd Patrol, he

460
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 3: kind of did cannibalizing Cannibal Corpse concert week on his

461
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 3: own promotion, considering he was a co promoter of record

462
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Speaker 3: with Maye of the promotions on Wilder Ortiz two, a

463
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 3: PBC venture. Yet he's floating his name out there in

464
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 3: a big way during fight week, the same tricks he

465
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 3: used to do right during like glove Can Canelo fight

466
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 3: week to bring the attention back on him. That was

467
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: a little bit odd. There's certain elements to this that

468
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 3: are just odd. But I think if you do the math,

469
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 3: what would be the best case scenario for us odd?

470
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Speaker 3: I think really Mayweather Pakio too, even if they were

471
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Speaker 3: forty three and forty one, like they will be next year.

472
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Speaker 3: May Pakio is going through a renaissance at forty That

473
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Speaker 3: win against Keith Thurman is as good as any recent

474
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Speaker 3: win in the sport. I just don't know how forty

475
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Speaker 3: three if Floyd would do that. Now, there's that experience

476
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Speaker 3: against Connor and the ease of it, and the experience

477
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Speaker 3: even against Nasukawa and Japan and the easy money. The

478
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Speaker 3: one thing I don't want this to do because look,

479
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: here's the thing. We're all gonna go, oh, we don't

480
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: want this, we don't want this. And then if it

481
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Speaker 3: was Floyd Abib and it happened, of course we'd get

482
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Speaker 3: drawn back in because it's a spectacle. You have to

483
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Speaker 3: see it, even though we don't want it. If it

484
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Speaker 3: does plays any part in keeping the UFC from making

485
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Speaker 3: Habib Tony ferguson five, then.

486
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Speaker 1: Are you wait, wait, let me back up a steps,

487
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Speaker 1: just so I understand you clearly. Are you suggesting that

488
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Speaker 1: the UFC is considering making a boxing match between Habib,

489
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Speaker 1: Nomer Goat made Off and Floyd maywe.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that when you see all the reach

491
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Speaker 3: going on from everybody involved with the UFC, and you

492
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: know Dana wants to get involved in the sport in

493
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Speaker 3: any way, and right now there's just no free agent

494
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: fighters that aren't aligned with ESPN or Showtime war Fox

495
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: or you know, Dezonne or whatever.

496
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Speaker 1: What's the next thing you can do?

497
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Speaker 3: Take one of his guys to match him up with

498
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Speaker 3: Floyd and use all his promotional powers and push it.

499
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Speaker 3: And then did you see Ali abdel Aziz, Habib's manager,

500
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: float out some kind of cryptic ig posts that I

501
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 3: didn't really understand, but kind of in setting that it

502
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: was supposed to I just made a word there, kind

503
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 3: of basically saying that that fight was supposed to happen

504
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Speaker 3: in January in Saudi Arabia.

505
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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what you can pull from it,

506
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 1: but it's it's interesting managers and MMA often repeat half

507
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: truths or they're just trying to sell you on something.

508
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: Here's what my sense of things are between him sitting

509
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: with Dana White and the lack of a zoofa boxing announcement.

510
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: My hunch is that they're trying to get a big

511
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: splash going, and what better way to get a big

512
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Speaker 1: splash going if most of the best fighters are already

513
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: signed or belonging to ABC or to Bob aram at

514
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: top rank, or they're at his zone. Who's available and

515
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: has a huge name that's known by the way to

516
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: UFC audiences, it is Floyd Many with Floyd Mayweather is

517
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: easily the most popular boxer in MMA, right for better

518
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: or for worse. That is his role. He is the

519
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: king of the trolls, yes, but he's also the king

520
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Speaker 1: of visibility. What I took away from the McGregor fight

521
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Speaker 1: and I know you have reported suggested on the show

522
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Speaker 1: that your sources tell you that he didn't hardly train

523
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Speaker 1: for that fight.

524
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Speaker 2: Even with that, I talked to Pauli.

525
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: Malanaji about that fight when it first ended, and Pauli

526
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: is known as a clear and unequivocal Floyd Mayweather supporter,

527
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: and even he agreed with me that it was time

528
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: to really hang it up now the Nasakawa exhibition thing. Notwithstanding,

529
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: Floyd just didn't look great in that fight. Beyond the

530
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, the lack of the work in the first

531
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Speaker 1: three rounds, he just didn't have his legs under him.

532
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Speaker 1: He didn't look physically at forty two or forty one

533
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Speaker 1: at that's on. Whatever he was, he just didn't look

534
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: to be while in good physical condition for the age,

535
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: he didn't look to be elite by boxing physicality needed

536
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: to compete against the top junior and then regular welterweights

537
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: at that at that moment, Paki how kind of does

538
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: which is miraculous, but he does. So here's what I'm

539
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna say. I don't know who he's gonna fight. I

540
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't rule out the possibility of him fighting Pacio, assuming

541
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: that Floyd is was that that fight was admerant and

542
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: not an indication of where he has arrived as an

543
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: aging talent. But if that McGregor fight is actually where

544
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: Floyd is now, yeah, he can fight UFC fighters until

545
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: he's blue in the face. He's gonna knock him all out,

546
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: like they don't have a shot against him, even as

547
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: a special Yeah, even as a declined property in terms

548
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: of his physical abilities, which again wasn't just my interpretation.

549
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: Paulie agreed, So I would say that seems most likely. Plus,

550
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: what a launch for zoof of boxing. What a great

551
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: way to get off the ground with a somebody you

552
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: can sign recognizable to your audience. We know that that

553
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: UFC fighter versus Floyd Mayweather thing works certainly for Floyd

554
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: and UFC made a ton of money, and we mentioned

555
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: it last time. What was the big takeaway from Meywether

556
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: McGregor in terms of losses? Connor could write it off saying, hey,

557
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: I nothing ventured, nothing gained, It's not even my regular

558
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: sport and they all made a bunch of money. You

559
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: could probably probably, although it'd be a little bit harder,

560
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: you might be able to do that again. Now, I

561
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: wonder if Habib goes in there and just gets absolutely annihilated.

562
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Speaker 1: If there would be as forgiving as they were for Connor,

563
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: one doesn't really know, but but there is at least

564
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Speaker 1: precedent to assume that he could.

565
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Speaker 3: And it goes back to my point when someone's doing drugs.

566
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Speaker 3: In our life, we always have that common of age,

567
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 3: you know, do you just don't as long as you're

568
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Speaker 3: not hurting anybody else. If this idea goes forward and

569
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Speaker 3: Floyd Habib has some life to it, you are hurting things.

570
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: You're hurting UFC fans from the idea of you're hurting

571
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson.

572
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Speaker 1: That's a fight. I mean, this is the historic didn't

573
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Speaker 1: didn't Habib say in Uzbekistan for this event that he

574
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Speaker 1: was out there for. I think it's called gorilla fighting.

575
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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken that they were going to do

576
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Speaker 1: an April show in Brooklyn. If that's the case, then

577
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Speaker 1: that I would amend my take right there.

578
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Speaker 3: If we can get Tony Bebe five in April and

579
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: Brooklyn and then they can schedule some type of showcase afterwards,

580
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: that's fine. I just don't think we're getting Maypack two.

581
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Speaker 3: Even though I think if Floyd was gonna come back

582
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: against an active fighter. It would be the best fight.

583
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: But Floyd is almost too smart to take that fight

584
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: right now, Floyd, because it takes big risks, And good god,

585
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: I can't believe Mannepakio went out there and did that

586
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 3: to Keith Thurman. And if you're Floyd and you've been inactive,

587
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: it just doesn't seem like a smart idea. At the

588
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: same time, Luke, even if you're like the biggest Floyd

589
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: hater and critic, could you get excited about him continuing

590
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: this lopsided boxer versus MMA thing. I mean, I feel

591
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: like it's tyresome already. I feel like the Nasa Kala

592
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: fight against a twenty year old guy four weight division

593
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: smaller than you was kind of shameless. And I'm not

594
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: saying X boxers haven't done this in the past. I'll

595
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: leaves went on world tours and done pseudo wrestling in

596
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Speaker 3: MMA matches, But shouldn't he be better than that?

597
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: Right? Well, here's the deal. What would sell more being

598
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: dead serious? And I'm gonna make it up because it

599
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: me Hebi, but could be somebody else. But let's say

600
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: it's Habi Habi versus Floyd. May whether in a boxing

601
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: match promoted by all the relevant entities or may Pack two. Right,

602
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: here's one thing you can say, Mayweather McGregor was exciting.

603
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: Mayweather versus Pakia, while a legitimate boxing contest, not overly exciting.

604
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Right, you can look back on that.

605
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Oh, do we really want to see Maypac two or

606
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: do we want to see something crazy again? I would

607
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: humbly submit to you. Either would likely be big. Maybe

608
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: may Pack two is even bigger. But the fact that

609
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: they're even relevant and close to one another and one

610
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: is a significantly less difficult of a challenge. It makes

611
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: Mayweather's calculations a little bit easier to follow.

612
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: The wild card in this though, maybe Saudi Arabia, which

613
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 3: is throwing as a country so much money at WWE

614
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: at Joshua Ruis two reports that aj might be making

615
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: seventy five million as a guaranteed flat rate. If you're

616
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: Floyd and you have those conversations with them and you

617
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: can get a couple hundred million, yeah, you'll probably find anybody.

618
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh and lastly, I think there was an entertainment tonight

619
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Speaker 1: headlined I'm making I'm not making this up logan Paul,

620
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: who just is you know?

621
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: I mean what a what a skin tag this creature is.

622
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: He said he wanted to box Floyd Mayweather, and they

623
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: put up a pole on their site about it. Should

624
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: Logan pol box Floyd Mayweather.

625
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: I hope he does, all.

626
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: Right, if I could get off of regular fox butt

627
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: fight journalist, boxing guy at my core and then get

628
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: into gas station food eating Brian Campbell and go within

629
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: this carnival circus realm of Floyd fighting twenty year old

630
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: featherweight kickboxers. There's one thing to fight a guy smaller

631
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 3: than you who has no chance, and Logan Paul has

632
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: no chance under any circumstances. But the fact that he's

633
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: a cruiserweight and Floyd at Walter Waite, if they ever

634
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: made that kind of carnival match, there's an entertaining side

635
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: to that. Please go die in a fire, okay, And

636
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 3: I don't want it. I don't want that for Floyd's legacy.

637
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that there's a little bit of interest

638
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 3: in there. A little guy against a big guy.

639
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: Please die in a fire.

640
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Let's move on. It is official. John Jones is

641
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a title fight. It'll be at light heavyweight.

642
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 1: It'll be in February. In Houston, Texas. It'll be at

643
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: the Toyota Center. I believe February eighth is the day,

644
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: if memory serves twenty twenty, he will take on Dominic Reyis. Now, Brian,

645
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: we got to this last week or the week before,

646
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: certainly talking about it. Now that it's official, it's exciting.

647
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's doing it. All the reasons we talked about.

648
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Speaker 1: He's the right candidate. It could be exciting by the

649
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: way I get. I don't want to jinx it because

650
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't think this is quite right. I don't get

651
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: the vibe that I'm like, oh, I'm feeling an upset

652
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: because that's not quite true. But I am getting the

653
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: vibe for sure that Dominic Reyis is going to is

654
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: being wildly underrated in this one. And it's one of

655
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: situations where like, what could you really point to before

656
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: the Anderson Silva Chris Widman fight that gave you a

657
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: clear indication that Chris Wyman was going to win nothing

658
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: or at least very little. Similar kind of situation, different circumstance.

659
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: John's only thirty one, although he's been in the game

660
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: a lot longer. But the point being is I get

661
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: a sense that not that I'm like, oh, here it

662
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: comes the upset, but rather that when it's over one

663
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: way or the other, Dominic Reyes will have shown us

664
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: his true actual ability. I think he will get taken down,

665
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: but he has shown after getting taken down he gets

666
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: back up rather easily. I understand it. But he has

667
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: what I would call adaptive takedown defense where he gives

668
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: it up at first, but then gets up and then

669
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: realizes the tricks you're pulling, and then he stops it right.

670
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: He has.

671
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: He has a bunch of fights where he gave up

672
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: one takedown and then his opponents go one for seven,

673
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: one for nine, one for five.

674
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: He's really quite good with that.

675
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: Drug dealer gives you the first one for free, but

676
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: the well, I don't know what drug dealers you've been

677
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: working with it him give me shit for free. But

678
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: how about this part over the weekend? It just didn't stop,

679
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: did it. Brian Campbell, John Jones, Israel out of Soignya,

680
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: still going after it. And why do I bring that up?

681
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: Because one John Jones said outright, Israel out of Soignya.

682
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: You were offered this fight and you did not take

683
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: it too. As I just alluded to. I believe that

684
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Don Reis is much better than folks seem to realize.

685
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: And what happens if Dominic Reys wins in February, however unlikely,

686
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: we might assume that to be that israel Ata soigna fight,

687
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: it goes up in smoke. And you have the famous

688
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: Lorenzo for Tita tweet talking about I think pack after

689
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: you got knocked out by Marquez all boxing, you should

690
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: have struck while the iron was hot. You should have

691
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: made Maypack two hashtag GSP versus Anderson And they didn't

692
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: make it either, And they made Maypack and made a

693
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: bunch of money.

694
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't that good? My point being is here.

695
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: Jed Mischu over at MMA Fighting has vacificously argued the

696
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: time to make auta Sonya versus Jones is now and

697
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: out of Sonya. We know his reasons, but he didn't.

698
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: He didn't want to make it.

699
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: And here we are. Here's what I'm going to say

700
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: about this.

701
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, take the Florida, thank you.

702
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: I will he.

703
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: I do think that you have to wait on that fight, However,

704
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you can wait till twenty twenty one.

705
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: That's all, dude.

706
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one at the earliest is thirteen months away.

707
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: ATASIGNJA got to a title in fourteen months. That is

708
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: an absolute eternity unless I mean, just do the math.

709
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Let's say that John Jones wins and he beats Dominic

710
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: Reyes without significant injury. Who's he gonna fight next, Cordy Anderson.

711
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: Cordy Anderson's gonna fight Anthony Smith. It looks like he's

712
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: already beaten Anthony Smith.

713
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: Johnny Blokowitz'll probably get up here.

714
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, that's the fight we really care about seeing.

715
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, you could get injured in camp.

716
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: You can get injured in the fight even if nothing happens.

717
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. My point being is, I don't think

718
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: he cares about those fights. I don't think you care

719
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: about those fights. Worse, something catastrophic could happen. Or age

720
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: might actually be creeping up on John because in his

721
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: last two fights he has looked talented but a little

722
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: bit reserved and maybe not quite the physical dynamo that

723
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: he once was. Now that could just be the two

724
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: aberrant performances, or it could be a reflection on the

725
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: fact that he got into the game at twenty or

726
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: twenty one years old even before that. So my sense

727
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: is twenty twenty one is too long. But if he

728
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: beats Dominic Reyes, the time to make this fight between

729
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Attasanya and Jones is gonna be summer twenty and twenty.

730
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: True or false?

731
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: I still say false. All Right, here's the deal.

732
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: Anyone who has fear of well, what if Don Reyes wins? Look,

733
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: here's the deal on that. There's a thing called GSP Sarah.

734
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: There's blips on the radar that happens to great all

735
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: time champions. And sometimes you lose a fight. John Jones

736
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: could have easily lost to Thiago Santos in that last one,

737
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: the split decision in which John sort of left that

738
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: back door open for whatever reason you may say, against

739
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: a guy with two non working legs who he probably

740
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: could have taken down and just finished that fight off.

741
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: Whatever.

742
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: Had he done that, he runs it back, he probably

743
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: wins the rematch. Should he lose to dom Race, he

744
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: runs it back, he probably wins the rematch. I think

745
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: that you're really risking sacrificing what Israel Atisanya is as

746
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: a star and a brand by rushing him into this

747
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: so quickly in a somewhat no win situation. Now that's

748
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: not true, because the chance to beat John Jones is

749
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: the big victory and become really the biggest star of

750
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: the sport right now.

751
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: But is he gonna do that?

752
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: Is he gonna do that before his body matures?

753
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: If he goes in there and blows the doors off Domras,

754
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: it gives us all a pause. But what if he

755
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: goes in there and for a third time looks not

756
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: bed deafdream because don't think that's the way he's looked,

757
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: but beatable, looks too efficient, looks a little looks low

758
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: to reserved. Dude, that is a fight. If that is

759
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: what we end up seeing, that is a fight. That

760
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: otta sign you can win. You brought the fact that

761
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: yes there was a GSP serah, but GSP had already

762
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: lost before that. He had lost to Matt Hughes in

763
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: his first title fight. He got submitted. We had sort

764
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: of seen that bubble burst. Okay, John has the loss

765
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: to Matt Hughes, or sorry, Matt's says, uh uh, he's

766
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: in the death fight Matt Hamil, Matt Hamill. Please, he's

767
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: got the loss to Matt Hamill. But not really, No

768
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: one has really truly beaten the guy. If Don Reyes

769
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: does that, dude, that is a historic moment in the sport.

770
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you couldn't do it Attasigna Jones fight.

771
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: If they have a rematch and he recaptures it, what

772
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying is you have significantly reduced what it could

773
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: have been.

774
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: I think to your point is they're heating up earlier

775
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: than maybe they should right now on social media, and

776
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: they're they're forcing this conversation to happen. They can't stop

777
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: the Grace Jones meme there from John Jones was funny.

778
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: He was good Israel's back saying, you know, I'm not

779
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: only rent free in your head. I'm willing to pay

780
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: the rent because I'm there. It's getting good. But I

781
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: don't know, oh man, Israel lot of Sony just had

782
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: this insane year to climb the mountain. This division has

783
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: some names that we want to see him against. What's

784
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: the potential potential loss here?

785
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: What if you get the best choice for you'll excuse me,

786
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: The best choice right now for Israel Sona, and I'm

787
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: in favor of it is jol Romero. Given all the

788
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: other circumstances in the division where he just beat Whitaker

789
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: till could maybe get it, but just has that one

790
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: winn after the two losses. And then you have you

791
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: all Romero, who's coming off of losses. His best option

792
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: for a fight is a guy coming off consecutive losses.

793
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 1: My only point about this is, yes, he should defend

794
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: his title. He wants to defend his title, that's fine.

795
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: But if you have a dom Reis who is very

796
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: competitive with John Jones, why can't Israel to Sonia be all.

797
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: Right if you did at least next year. If he

798
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: did it in the second half of next year, it's

799
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: almost sort of meeting in the middle on the two

800
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: on the reasons why you should or shouldn't do it.

801
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: I think unless John Jones is telling you have seen

802
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: in the back like I'm more likely to go to

803
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: heavyweight in the next two years than anything else, so

804
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: we have a short window to do it. Or unless

805
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: you are the smart UFC matchmakers who's in that room

806
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: next to Dana's office with the chalkboards and all the

807
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: names on it, and you're saying to yourself, I think

808
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: Israel actually could beat him. I don't think in my

809
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: heart that this middleweight version of aut A Sonya could

810
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: put on some weight, go up.

811
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: And beat John.

812
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: But if you believe that he can, and these guys

813
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: are a lot smarter than I am, then it's that

814
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 3: it's not as crazy as you would think. Maybe maybe

815
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: you open Raiders Stadium with an outdoor a super Bowl

816
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: fight there, and you're rolling the dice that you believe

817
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: at Asignja could and that it would be worth the

818
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: gamble of what a loss might mean because you believe

819
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: he could be the number one star in your sport.

820
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 3: If you believe that and you believe he can win it,

821
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: and UFC you do take that chance late next year, I.

822
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: Think, to your point, and this is what I've been

823
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: sort of keying in on. There is this widespread belief

824
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: that certainly a two of five John cannot be beaten,

825
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: and to this point that has been a very very

826
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: accurate way of looking at things. I don't know if

827
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: Don Reyes is going to beat him, but my thought

828
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: is if Anthony Smith could at times be competitive or

829
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: at least defensively not overwhelmed, and then Thiago Santos could

830
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: be quite competitive him in spots again injured, what if

831
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: Don Reis is actually really competitive with him. You have

832
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: to ask yourself what can dom Res do that Israel

833
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: out of Sonya can't Probably a few things, but is

834
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: it really so much that you couldn't make up that ground?

835
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: We just can't accept the idea right now that John

836
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: Jones might beata Ble two of five.

837
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: And I don't know that he is.

838
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: But this fight against dom Res is going to tell

839
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: us a lot about a potential that Israel out of

840
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: Sonya might have.

841
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: Should he go up to TWA, can I.

842
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: Say something awful?

843
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: Please?

844
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: Remember when Manny Pakiao was just knocking fools out, rising

845
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: up in wait, just destroying people, and then he cleaned

846
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: up his life, found the Christian faith, stopped rolling dice

847
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: and gambling and banging chicks and nightclubs allegedly okay, and

848
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: then suddenly was the more then voted for Dacroti pedestrian performances.

849
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: Out of the great boxer Manny, he almost was showing

850
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: like grace for his opponents and not finishing him when

851
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: he had the chance. Is could the best thing for

852
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: John Jones be a lost weekend, a bender here to

853
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: get him back in line on being a destroyer. Maybe

854
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: meet me in a Albuquerque intersection here.

855
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna start.

856
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: Not answering your question, I'm just saying like he's getting

857
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 3: a little bit too efficient and smart for his own good.

858
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: I need that old John Jones who walks you down

859
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: and gets you out of there fair enough. He needs

860
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: a wake up call, is what I'm saying.

861
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: All right, And to the point I would raised earlier,

862
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: people keep thinking Dominic Reyes as somebody who's like, well,

863
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: he's talented, but whatever.

864
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe in the end that's true, but I don't know.

865
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that the more there's another gear

866
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: to the guy that we haven't seen, that we probably

867
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: will in this contest win or lose, all right. Which

868
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: takes us now to Bellatore London over the weekend. It's funny,

869
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, that we have spent a lot of time

870
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: today talking about boxing, as we should have. It was

871
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: the most important combat sports event over the weekend. But

872
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Bellatore is doing something kind of interesting with MVP. He

873
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: is getting what I would consider to be a lot

874
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: of what would be the MMA equivalent or so of

875
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: tune up fights, and he wins over the weekend in

876
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: quite spectacular fashion. I think with the right hand, and

877
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: even Paul Daily, his old competitor, was He didn't outright

878
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: criticize bellatour, but he said, this is kind of ridiculous

879
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: that he's getting this many fights. I saw a graphic

880
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: that was like most knockouts in delt Or history, and

881
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: he's not at the top, but he's pretty close. But

882
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, if you were matchmaking Patricio Pitbull the

883
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: way you're matchmaking MVP, he'd had seventy five thousand knockouts

884
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: by now. So here's the question.

885
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: I saw fans split on this.

886
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: On the one hand, Brian Campbell, you have the camp

887
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: that says this is, including Paul Day and many others,

888
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. How can Belshor keep giving this guy

889
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: fights that he is virtually guaranteed to win? And on

890
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: the other hand, there's the argument that, like, look, man,

891
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: people want to come out to see this guy and

892
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: when he fights these guys that he is significantly better

893
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: than he delivers to his credit, highlight reel fights and

894
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: knockouts and performances.

895
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: This is the one right here.

896
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: So which is it?

897
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to have these? I don't know.

898
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it endless tune ups. He's only had

899
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: two since the Lima fight. But are you allowed to

900
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: continuously have guys beneath your level to preserve star attraction

901
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: in a developing market for a brand? Ask you two questions.

902
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

903
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: I don't actually off the top I had know the answer.

904
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: Was this his first fight since the knockout laws?

905
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: Is a second?

906
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Okay? And was this the original opponent or was this

907
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: a late replace? This was the replacement, but the original

908
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: opponent was a career lightweight. Okay, I'll put this as

909
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: a foundation. There's different rules of beltre we know that, right.

910
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: It's a it's a promotion that that it's the fountain

911
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: of youth.

912
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: It's the cocoon shell at the bottom of the pool

913
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: where the old people find extra life. You can match

914
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: and build somebody up as an attraction. You can do

915
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: the carnival circus thing. I have not. This has been

916
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: a normal thing I've said through the years when I

917
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: tune into these Beltzer cards and watch MVP send these

918
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: fools to hell, is that it's so damn exciting that

919
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: when you have a fighter who fights like this, they

920
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: tend to stop fighting like that when they go up

921
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: the ladder and face the very elites like we saw

922
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: against Lima, because if you take too many chances, you're

923
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 3: gonna get caught.

924
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: And you're gonna and you're gonna pay for it.

925
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: Where I've been saying for years, if MVP doesn't want

926
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: to match himself insanely difficult, this is entertaining, this is

927
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: musty TV. MVP tries things in the cage that other

928
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: people aren't willing to do in the in an attraction

929
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: like Bellatour, especially if the plan was to keep him happy,

930
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: keep him a star, and keep him well paid.

931
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: If they wanted to go down that road, I wouldn't

932
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: be against it.

933
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: But when you do that, Luke, you lose the ability

934
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: to make, you know, public comments like I'm the best

935
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: Walt Wait in the world. You're sort of agreeing that

936
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: you are an attraction. Should he want to do that

937
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: and come up for air every four or five fights

938
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: and fight somebody tough, that's their decision. It could work

939
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 3: in Belata, it wouldn't work anywhere else. I'd be entertained

940
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: by it. It's not the best way to find out

941
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: how great he is. Do you think that there's any

942
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: part of him in the promotion that wonders that themselves.

943
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: How many This is a serious question. I'm not doing

944
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: a bit because I couldn't pass this test either. How

945
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: many MVP opponents can you name? So Lima who else?

946
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: And then the Gonzales guy that pushed him in almost.

947
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Caveman, Rickles cave Man, Rickles, Santos, Cyborgsanda's they got a

948
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: skull crush that was anything else you can name?

949
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: No?

950
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's I.

951
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: Bet they're all from thacker Villa, Oklahoma, though some of them, Yeah,

952
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 3: I think they've helped.

953
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: He'd be two UFC veterans won of Ricky Rainey won,

954
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: and now Shan Burrell. He beat Rudy Bears and then

955
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: he beat He's beaten four guys in Beltore without Wikipedia

956
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: entries Charlie when he had hair, Charlie Anti Veros, Jeremy Holloway,

957
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: and then his last two Richard Keeley although he's a

958
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: little bit more well known, and then Giovanni Melileo or

959
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: mel Leo.

960
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: Or however he pronounced his name.

961
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: My rule on that is this, okay, clearly when he

962
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: goes up to fight the really yes, he beat Paul Day,

963
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: but my point is he didn't look great not Neither

964
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: guy looked great, but he didn't look great doing it.

965
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: He was really really stifled. Douglas Lee would just kind

966
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: of walked the room. Basically, it wasn't much of a

967
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: challenge for him. I don't mind these fights, but they

968
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: serve as specific purpose. The UFC has kind of not

969
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: abandoned Ireland. That's not quite true, but Beltore has made

970
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: significant inroads in them and they have this like European

971
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: series that they are going on with. They just want

972
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: to maintain a market presence. They've got a lot of

973
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: Irish fighters that want to do business in London. This

974
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: is a guy who can sell tickets for them. So

975
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't mind if he gets one to two of

976
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: these fights. But like, Okay, he's had two fights now.

977
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: By the way, he's fought four times in twenty nineteen.

978
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: In February twenty nineteen, Paul Daily Demi fought Lima in

979
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: May and then his last two Richard Keeley and Giovanni Melil.

980
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Have you pronounce this guy's name, Giovanni?

981
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Okay, you've had two gimme fights since the win, excuse me,

982
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: since the loss, the bad loss to Douglas Lima.

983
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Time to get back on the horse.

984
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: Right, My rule would be, I don't mind giving these

985
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: guys tune ups or star making fights. It's frankly the

986
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Scott Coker strikeforce method. They're taking it a little too

987
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: far by my judgment, given what they their ambitions are,

988
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: but due the UFC has been a ruthless competitor for

989
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: them and they have to make weird adjustments. So I

990
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: would say one two tune up fights for all the

991
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: purposes aforementioned.

992
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm okay with.

993
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: But like if they give him another one like this

994
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: back to back to back, that would be to me gratuitous.

995
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: It's time for him to face somebody else, and that's

996
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: a great division that they have him against. RRII would

997
00:42:59,840 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: be in.

998
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: Koreshkov will be another good one they have. They have

999
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: a lot of good guys.

1000
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, what we've learned is he could

1001
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: lose that and I don't think he would lose much

1002
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: market appeal in London because he can get back on

1003
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: the horse and deliver highlight real knockouts. So my attitude

1004
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: is you can't just abandon completely this obligation. I think

1005
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: that MMA fans put on promoters to have the best

1006
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: fight the best, but you could play around the margins.

1007
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: Two fights in a row to me is playing around

1008
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: the margins. It is fun, though, yeah, but it's like,

1009
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: imagine what they would do again, imagine what Patricio Frede

1010
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: would do if they gave him fights like this.

1011
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: Do hev take eb Decapita?

1012
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but he's a seeking destroyer.

1013
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: MVP is sort of a f around and try to

1014
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: set up the walk off knockout right now.

1015
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: His whole style is predicated on I have to be

1016
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: so much better than you that I can do, you know,

1017
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: the robot and then knock you out. If someone's really good,

1018
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: he can't do all those things. He just becomes something

1019
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: a little bit lesser.

1020
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't but you don't have to fight

1021
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: guys we've never heard of. There's there's a Caveman Rickles level, right,

1022
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: if you thought maybe a little bit better. I mean

1023
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: that was basically Andrews and Silver Forest Griffin.

1024
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: That Fighteh, it was fun, right. I like the way

1025
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: he worked it, no diggity, no doubt. I'd like to

1026
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: bag it up. God, you've sicken me all right. Well,

1027
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: speaking of things, I'm sicking by Brian Campbell. I suh,

1028
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: that's a terrible intro. Yeah, I don't know what rage

1029
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: at all. Let me just start that one over one

1030
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: more time. It's live, but it's gonna end with you

1031
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 1: disgracing pies again.

1032
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: I like pies just fine.

1033
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: The idea that that is a better food than cake

1034
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: is just what peasants hair pie peasants peasants like you,

1035
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: all Righterence, there is no big super duper fight this weekend.

1036
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: There's I'm sure going to be some check out go

1037
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: back a hitman on Twitter. I'm sure hopefully have something

1038
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: for you. But there's no real big Bell tour. There's

1039
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: no real big UFC. There's a real big boxing fight

1040
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: that I'm aware of, right, Brian Campbell. But it is

1041
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving on Thursday, Which got me to thinking, Brian, now

1042
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: that the Thanksgiving holiday is upon us, the year is

1043
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: drawing to a close. People are incorrectly assuming that the

1044
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: decade is coming to a close, even though it's not

1045
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: till twenty twenty. Kind is It's not?

1046
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, is the year nineteen eighty part of the seven? No, Luke,

1047
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: So let's wake up to that, all right.

1048
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: I know you tried to do this. I'm smarter than you.

1049
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: Thing on, it's not It's just math, bro, It's just math.

1050
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: There's no year zero. You start at one, it goes

1051
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: to ten.

1052
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: It was zero to nine, that's how it goes.

1053
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: That means you have then the first decade was not

1054
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: a decade. So that doesn't make any sense. If a

1055
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: decade is ten years and there's no year zero, just

1056
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: do the math.

1057
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1058
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: The point being is this, I would like to ask you,

1059
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: what are you grateful? What are you thankful for here

1060
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: in the year of Our Lord twenty nineteen.

1061
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: I am thankful that combat sports is back in particularly boxing,

1062
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: and when I say back, I mean promoted push and

1063
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: accept it on a mainstream level.

1064
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: Luke, there was a time, you know, six, seven, eight,

1065
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: nine years ago.

1066
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: I remember, I think it was twenty eleven and twelve,

1067
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: and there was like twelve pay per views that year.

1068
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 3: To be a boxing fan you had to have cave

1069
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: multi premium cable subscriptions and there was all these flights

1070
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: flowed to pay per view that didn't belong there. It was.

1071
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, to be able boxing fan, you got to

1072
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: be part of this secret club in which it costs

1073
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: a lot of money to get in, and more often

1074
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: than not, you didn't get what you paid for and

1075
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: right now boxing is being pushed to the forefront and

1076
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: it's on Fox and ESPN. It's also on Showtime the zones,

1077
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: popping in and throwing a ton of money around, and

1078
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: it's bringing health to the sport simultaneously. God YOU'FC as

1079
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: an ESPN contract. We never would have guessed that at

1080
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: a certain point a long time ago. And it's so

1081
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 3: mainstream that it's blowing up, and it's it's financially friendly.

1082
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 3: I get to do projects like this, and it's great.

1083
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: I can pay off absorbent at kids travel soccer fees.

1084
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: But it also gets to do things like this.

1085
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: Companies are getting to invest in a fresh, new, fun

1086
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: show like this where we can just come out here

1087
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: and peel the skin off the onion and just cry

1088
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: and let it bleed and just say it like it is.

1089
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: No cringe, no protection, no nothing. Okay, raw dog style.

1090
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: Now we'll edit that part of left those really gross,

1091
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: But you get what I'm saying. I'm thankful. I mean, look,

1092
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: we sometimes it's boxing and even MMA fans we get

1093
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 3: to it's like we love our sports. We don't want

1094
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Rose going on ESPN and saying Canelo should fight Lomachenko,

1095
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: which is something that happened, by the way, but sometimes

1096
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: that's a necessary evil to have your sports be healthy.

1097
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: And I've gone a long time as a boxing fan

1098
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: when the.

1099
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: Sport wasn't healthy, and I've gone a long time as

1100
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: an MMA fan and journalist as there's been some peaks

1101
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: and valleys. I'm thankful that you and I get to

1102
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: sit here right now. I'm thankful that that a hole

1103
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: j is in my ear a lot.

1104
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for.

1105
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: These people sitting back here putting up with my really

1106
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: inappropriate jokes. I'm thankful for this bomb shelter in this

1107
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: somewhere in the swampsa Jersey. I'm just a thankful person.

1108
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: We got fights every weekend that matter. We got big events,

1109
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 3: we got crossover things going on. The sports are healthy.

1110
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: Right now.

1111
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: My wallet is fat. That's been the first time ever, Luke. Okay, Well,

1112
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: here's I'm cashing checks left and right.

1113
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: All right. I'm happy to see that it's long time coming,

1114
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to see that you're finally getting what

1115
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: I think you've long deserved. I would say what I'm

1116
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: thankful for is, first, you know, it's funny we used

1117
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: to talk about I think I want to say like

1118
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: four or five years ago, so let's say twenty fourteen ish,

1119
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: when the UFC was like overwhelmingly doing shows. They did

1120
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: seven shows in Brazil that year. That's when they went

1121
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: to a place in Brazil a true story called uber Langia.

1122
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: Remember that, and you're like, what is going on? There's

1123
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: this glut of content. You're like, there was a lot

1124
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: of content, but it kind of felt like the Golden

1125
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Age was the age of the Matt Hughes and the

1126
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: Ladell's and the Cators and a little bit later the Lessner's,

1127
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: that little spot from like let's say five to nine,

1128
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: right post Ultimate Fighter to the end of brock Lesner,

1129
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: that felt like the golden era. That felt like when

1130
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: MMA was just so hot and everyone was talking about it.

1131
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 1: And I don't know that we'll recapture that moment where

1132
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: every month MMA just seemed to grow and grow and

1133
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: grow and grow. That was unique. But what I will

1134
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: say now is I don't think that was the Golden Age.

1135
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: That was the Golden age of becoming. Now is the

1136
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: Golden age?

1137
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: Dude.

1138
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: Over the weekend, you could have watched in Korea a

1139
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: brilliant jiu jitsu tournament on Flow Grappling. If you wanted

1140
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: to or fight to win pro David Homosh from UFC

1141
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: had a match against Gary Tone And if you want

1142
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: to watch K one that was over the weekend. If

1143
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: you want, I want to watch Litheway Burmese kickboxing, you

1144
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: could have done that. There was Ortiz versus Wilder, there

1145
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: was Belator overseas. There was USA Wrestling as well.

1146
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: Zone had two boxing cards on Saturday from separate countries.

1147
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible. If you love combat sports, if

1148
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: you love it when a guy goes monoemono or ladies

1149
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: with another competitor, this is the time to be alive

1150
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: and you can get it, whether it's in me and

1151
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: mar whether it's in Canada, whether it's in your backyard,

1152
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: whether it's pay per view or whatever.

1153
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: Streaming has really and it can be. It could be

1154
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: at any time.

1155
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: Plus now, one of the things that's great about like LFA,

1156
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: they went over to Fight Pass, which I think I

1157
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: always worry about, you know, the UFC sort of controlling

1158
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: the regional scene a little bit. On the other hand,

1159
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: they put the entire library of LFA already on there,

1160
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: so for a guy like me, I can go back

1161
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: and trace somebody's developmental steps, like just things like this,

1162
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: just real quick, you don't care.

1163
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: But the same things happening in pro wrestling, and we're

1164
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: going through a boom period right now. I've heard because

1165
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: of access for the same reason.

1166
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: So it's all at all to your credit and to

1167
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: your point, it all fits together in the same point. Dude,

1168
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: if you like that kind of stuff, now is the

1169
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: time to be a fan. You can get everything. It

1170
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: seems like at your fingertips. There is a bit of

1171
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: a cost to it and some sort of technological barriers

1172
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: I get. I just can't think of a time in

1173
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: my life where if you want to watch K one

1174
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: you had to go get the old weird uh not streams.

1175
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: But I don't forget, I forget the terminology now from

1176
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: forums and they had to read like weird magazines printed

1177
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: by Calvin Air's laptop. Yeah, it was just Now you

1178
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: can get all of that stuff so easily, so effortlessly.

1179
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: It it's a great, great time to be a combat

1180
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: sports fan. That's the first. The second one I would

1181
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: say is, you know, I realize we're issing up to

1182
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: our bosses here. But the reality is, dude, we are

1183
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: insanely lucky to have this job.

1184
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: Now.

1185
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Granted, they have held us capture in Guantanamo Bay here

1186
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: for the last six or seven months, so that part

1187
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: has sucked. But I will say this, I have I'm

1188
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: forty now and I have finally come after you. I know,

1189
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: I have finally arranged a moment in my life or

1190
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: between my I should say, among my radio show, my

1191
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: personal YouTube channel, and now this, I get to say

1192
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: whatever I want for the most part. I mean for

1193
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: the most part, which is simply unheard of in combat sports,

1194
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: where everything is incestuous and everybody has to keep quiet

1195
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: about everybody else. And I don't know that I always

1196
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: uphold the ideals that I think I should. I'm certainly

1197
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: an imperfect person in that regard. But you know this too, man,

1198
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: this is a sport where the reason we can thrive

1199
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: by just having that as a feature is because it

1200
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: is so rare. It is so rare to have opportunities

1201
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: like this. I can tell you many times we go

1202
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: to the boss and we're like, we want to talk

1203
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: about this.

1204
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: Is this okay?

1205
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, let a rip, let a rip. Just

1206
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: go that's that's what yeah looks like.

1207
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: Can I say Vagene on the air, They're like, Yeah.

1208
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: You're the one who's gonna get a sitting in an HR,

1209
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: not me. In any event, dude, we are super lucky

1210
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: and super grateful, and I think my hunches the people

1211
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: out there, I think they recognize what we're trying to

1212
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: do and they seem to appreciate it. So thanks to you, guys, man,

1213
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: because showtime they read what the things y'all say and

1214
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: they are loving that. You guys seem to get the

1215
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: concept and what we're trying to go and what we're

1216
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: trying to do.

1217
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: And should this lead to a speech about how they

1218
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: should subscribe, because I think they really they should.

1219
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: You should subscribe get us to thirty k by twenty twenty.

1220
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: I think we'll probably blow past that, given the sort

1221
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: of progress that we've been on. And then what's the

1222
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: plan here? Top list but with a code.

1223
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Over it, something like that, something like that, maybe suspenders.

1224
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 2: I don't really know yet.

1225
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: In any event, I'm not just saying it's like, oh shucks,

1226
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: thanks audience, No, really, it makes a huge difference. I

1227
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: have tried to get to the spot for years and

1228
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: now we're here, so it's time to build what we

1229
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: have but started yet started in the bunker. Now we're here.

1230
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Do you find when you go around we'll reveal the

1231
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: fourth ball here. When you go to fights.

1232
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: When you go around, people, oh man, I love morning combat.

1233
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: You know what.

1234
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: They never say.

1235
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: They're never like, oh man, I love your your really

1236
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 3: weird jokes, or oh man, I love when Luke talks

1237
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: down to you or anything like that. They're always like, man,

1238
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: I love when that guy JAF's things up and gets

1239
00:52:59,600 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: in the way.

1240
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what if we built there by accident? You know?

1241
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: People do hit right me about Jay. They're like, yo,

1242
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: fuck Jay. And I'm always like, that's what I've been

1243
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: saying exactly all right time.

1244
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: Now with all those you know, I'm grateful for meat pie,

1245
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 3: by the way, because Thursday that's the centerpiece of my Thanksgiving.

1246
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: Me. I can't wait. I want to see pictures. You've

1247
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: been bringing some pictures. Yeah, I'll bring you a slice.

1248
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: Let's do it, okay, Canadian the beer and then.

1249
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: You just kind of I think we need a spin

1250
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: off episode at a brewery or something. I mean, did

1251
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: you see Stone called Steve Auston Undertaker? Had that show

1252
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: where they're doing whiskey shots last night. We need something

1253
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 3: like that right here.

1254
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: All right, well you pitch it to our bosses. All right.

1255
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: With that in mind, it is time now for your questions.

1256
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: It's time now for dms with donks.

1257
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: You got some animation this? Look at this the budget?

1258
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: Look at that? I got some animation. Huh to what

1259
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: do I owe the honor? Giggling Jay?

1260
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: All right? First questions up, I'm gonna I'm gonna strangle him?

1261
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: Uh?

1262
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

1263
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: This is from TVGC MMA. Is Wilder the least skilled,

1264
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: most one dimensional boxer ever to be so dominant?

1265
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell?

1266
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 3: I think he actually is at this level the title heavyweight. Yes,

1267
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: I really believe that. And look, look again, you can

1268
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: say what you want about while there's competition level. Although

1269
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: once he flipped that switch and decided that he wanted

1270
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: to be great and decided that he wanted to fight

1271
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: everybody he has has or has tried. Let's not forget

1272
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 3: he tried to fight Povekin twice until Maldonium got in

1273
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: the way.

1274
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: But yes, he's completely one dimensional.

1275
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 3: He builds his entire game around protecting that one dimension

1276
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: and sort of weeding out the vulnerabilities, and he has

1277
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: ten title defenses. You know, it's the same thing. Joe

1278
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: Lewis has the record for heavyweight title defenses with twenty five,

1279
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: which is absurd. And I know there's some bum of

1280
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: the month Claub Elements and the fighters back then fought

1281
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 3: a lot more, but we're talking about a heavyweight boxing.

1282
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 3: That guy defended the title twenty five times. That's absurd.

1283
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: So it's Wilder with ten right now in this era

1284
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: where there's four belts and they can change at any time. Yeah,

1285
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: he's completely one dimensional, and that one dimension is absolute

1286
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: bad to ask grenade that can go off at any time.

1287
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean, good god, it's fun to watch. Yeah, I'm

1288
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: trying to think of somebody else who I have watched

1289
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Speaker 1: in my lifetime who has just like he's like a knuckleballer.

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Speaker 1: Remember I think his name was I could be getting wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Tim Wakefield. I think he pitched

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Speaker 1: for the Red Sox that eventually he would get shelled,

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Speaker 1: but there would be games where he would just retire

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Speaker 1: the side, retire the side, all with literally the exact

1295
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: same pitch, over and over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of.

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Speaker 3: Somebody while there's a fastball guy. I mean, it's almost

1298
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Speaker 3: like a guy. And now she's imperfect.

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Speaker 1: But I'm simply saying, who else in your time covering

1300
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Speaker 1: boxing you've sat ringside for that you felt like boxing's

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00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: equivalent of a knuckleballer?

1302
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 2: I can't.

1303
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Prince Nasimhmed was a unique guy

1304
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 3: that he would like Roy Jones, he would break all

1305
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: the rules and square up and switch stances, but that's

1306
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: he would get unorthodox.

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Speaker 1: That's not one dimension, that's true. And he had speed

1308
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: and ring craft, so that's like a couple of things.

1309
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: But god, I don't know, I really don't know. He's

1310
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: he's crazy like that like Damian But but you know,

1311
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: more down that road, you know, it's just weird. It's

1312
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: like the dude, the scorecards don't mean shit. It's like

1313
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 1: he just gives away round after round and then bang.

1314
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Speaker 1: It's it's just unbelievable, all right, Springer Saint Louis says,

1315
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: setting aside anti dumping, hysteria and personal biases, do you

1316
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: think I love that disclaimer for you? That's for you, Luke,

1317
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: anti dumping hysteria. I'm not even sure what that means.

1318
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean like economics, But no, he means pds. All right,

1319
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: he might he may just say doping, doping.

1320
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Speaker 2: Okay, who do you think would have benefited most from peds?

1321
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: I e. This person writes, Daniel Cormier is historically clean

1322
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: antipde athlete, but had many injuries that PDS may have

1323
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: helped as well as performance.

1324
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how to answer this question who could

1325
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: have benefited from So.

1326
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Speaker 3: He's saying, which fighters that are known, that are sort

1327
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 3: of known and have convinced us that they're not PD

1328
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: users could have most benefited to take their skill level,

1329
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 3: like when Barry Bonds was using at an absurd level

1330
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: and he took his already MVP skill level and something

1331
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 3: he's hitting seventy three runs. You can't really answer this

1332
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: question because that would mean you're living in a world

1333
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Speaker 3: where you believe that the only people that are using

1334
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Speaker 3: are the ones that are getting caught, and that everybody

1335
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: else isn't. And I am, you know personally, Look, we don't,

1336
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: we don't lie on the show. We don't, we don't

1337
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: pull punches. I don't want to get sued by any fighters,

1338
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: but I am personally more of the belief that ninety

1339
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Speaker 3: five percent are using than of the belief that it's

1340
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: the five fifty that are getting caught.

1341
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer is all of them. I mean, I'm

1342
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: not trying to answer this question like there's it's using pds.

1343
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Right?

1344
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: Are you using EPO? Are you using anabolic steroids in

1345
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: what kind of a capacity? Do you have a designer drug?

1346
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Which I think a lot of them probably do. John

1347
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: had Dick pills for a while. You can you can

1348
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: go a couple of ways with it. There's a you know,

1349
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Speaker 1: it just depends on how you're using. I think he's saying.

1350
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Speaker 1: For example, remember cro Cop got shoulder surgery and then

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Speaker 1: had some HGH as a as a way to expedite

1352
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: the healing process, and then just told you Sata to

1353
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: go shove it when he went and fought in Japan. Yeah.

1354
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of fighters probably could benefit from

1355
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: situations like that. I have frankly believe, and I know

1356
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: this is just politically untenable, but the NFLPA should make

1357
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: that available. I think to NFL athletes HGH administered for healing.

1358
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: But you know, neither here north there, because I.

1359
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Speaker 2: Don't to me that doesn't.

1360
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: I know it's chemical, but I don't see that as

1361
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Speaker 1: a functional difference to weed out relative to stem cell

1362
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: therapy that you have to go to South America to

1363
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: get right to me, it's like, you know, this is

1364
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Speaker 1: the thing I was getting.

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Speaker 3: Go.

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Speaker 1: Everything should be all natural, dude. Surgery is unnatural.

1367
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: Right.

1368
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Speaker 1: If you break your arm and it pokes through a

1369
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: compound fracture through the skin, you're using modern medicine and

1370
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: accumulated wisdom to fix that, and people say, well, it's

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Speaker 1: to get you back to normal. Well, at this point

1372
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: you are just simply playing with terms, right. And then

1373
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: again it's like with the with the stem cells. Oh

1374
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: but that's all natural, dude. You are expediting the healing

1375
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: process in a significant way, not with chemicals per se,

1376
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: but with this accumulated modern medical wisdom that was simply

1377
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Speaker 1: unavailable twenty years ago. And I'm not supposed to believe

1378
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Speaker 1: that this is somehow different. So all of them could benefit.

1379
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Speaker 1: It would just be in what capacity?

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Speaker 3: For what reason can we play deathbed confessions Lorenzo Fertida?

1381
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Speaker 3: Could he pass the use out of test today?

1382
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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, here's the thing. Let's assume that you're right

1383
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: and he's been using. He certainly looks like somebody who

1384
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Speaker 1: at a bare minimum has a great personal trainer. I

1385
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Speaker 1: don't care, and it's not my business. Ah, I mean

1386
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: that's serious. Like to me, people using, we have accepted

1387
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: the idea that this is like a great sin and

1388
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: this is an unnatural thing. What in fact it's it's

1389
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't consider it to be either of those things,

1390
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: And that to me is I don't know, that's debatable,

1391
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: But especially in the case of private citizens, you think

1392
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: I give a shit if a private citizen. Roid's up, dude,

1393
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: roid up until you're fucking blue in the face ever

1394
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: watching action movie? What the hell?

1395
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: I mean? Those guys are are juice into the I

1396
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: remember that time Leicester Stallone got caught in Australia with like,

1397
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: you know the amount of HGH that could feed up

1398
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: the world country.

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Speaker 1: You've seen this guy? You think you think? You think

1400
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: Salloan got like that in the seventies by fucking eating

1401
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: tilapia and getting a good night's sleep, Like what do

1402
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying, Like it's just a

1403
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: ridiculous way to go through life and your pop in

1404
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: the control room here, Well, here's the point. It's like, dude,

1405
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: this is a true I swear on my mother and

1406
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: people understand that when I say that, I say it sincerely.

1407
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: I am absolutely interested in trying TRT and antibaloic steroids.

1408
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: I've never done it ever in my life. I am

1409
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: obviously very intrigued. I'll project you on the show if

1410
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: you want.

1411
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued by the prospect.

1412
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: The prospect dude, world's strongest man is only the shit

1413
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: by virtue of antabolic steroids. One of my favorite deadlifters,

1414
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't do much these days, but like Larry Wheels

1415
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: or Pete Rubish, these guys admit they take Dude, it

1416
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: ups their deadlift fairly well, at some points not so much,

1417
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: but in certain cases it can. It can really expand

1418
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Speaker 1: what is humanly possible. Sorry to ruin your childhood. The

1419
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: American Gladiators not clean. Yeah, it's like again, I understand

1420
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Speaker 1: this is a debatable thing. And then folks have a

1421
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: lot of like nineteen eighties Nancy Reagan say no to

1422
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: drugs ideas that you know, banged into their head. But

1423
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: the rule it my view is drugs are here, and

1424
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: you can spend all the time in the world trying

1425
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: to get rid of them. You're not going to succeed.

1426
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: Finding some kind of some kind of acceptance is really

1427
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: the best way to go about it. And for privacy,

1428
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: say job throwing a PD question in this in this questions,

1429
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: guys are just.

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Speaker 2: We have such it's I don't the lessing on this,

1431
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Speaker 2: lesting on this.

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Speaker 1: I swear we have such backward attitudes towards towards drugs.

1433
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't quite. I've never it's never. No

1434
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: one has ever explained to me why there are why

1435
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: it's some kind of mortal sin in sports. Oh, it's

1436
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: against the spirit of the sport. Okay, what's the spirit

1437
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: of the sport? Which, by the way, this is how

1438
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: water defines it. They can't define it.

1439
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 3: You ever be at like Thanksgiving and you have that

1440
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: one relative like crazy, but you can't. You can't bring

1441
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: up like the jfk assassination around him because he's going

1442
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: to go on like you talk like.

1443
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm in the fever swamps of internet forums just bringing

1444
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: up random things. I'm telling you, don't bring.

1445
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: Up Obamacare around uncle Joe. You know, it's like, yeah,

1446
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 3: all right.

1447
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Speaker 1: Next question. Well, the good news is my family doesn't

1448
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: know what I do for a living, so I don't

1449
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: have to worry about any of this stuff. Okay, this

1450
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: is from Stefano Underscore GD Brian Campbell.

1451
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: Do you think that did I skip one?

1452
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: No?

1453
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: Do you think that the fact that the many malfeasance

1454
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: is by the UFC contracts, sports washing by dictators, et cetera.

1455
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Are not addressed by mainstream sports media, even with the

1456
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: ESPN exposure confirmed the status of MMA as a barbaric

1457
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: spectacle in the eyes of General Paludick.

1458
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: What a fan fantastic was way too educated for me

1459
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: to understand what they're actually So here's the thing malfians

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Speaker 3: in Disney movie.

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Speaker 1: Malevolence. No, no, what's the one with Angela and Julie Maleficent? Maleficent? Yes,

1462
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: malevolence is what I have towards you. In any event,

1463
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: consider this. So Kareem Zadan has written about this, how

1464
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: the UFC doesn't do a lot to combat the presence

1465
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Speaker 1: of Ramzan Kadirov. Right, They don't really lecture Habib about

1466
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Speaker 1: posting pictures with him. They signed some of the fighters

1467
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Speaker 1: from Achmat m m A, They signed Greg Hardy and

1468
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: they were you know, DNA White attitude was basically like

1469
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: get over it, and even kareems of Dan writing recently

1470
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Speaker 1: by the UFC going to China and sort of ignoring

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Speaker 1: the abuses of the wager Muslims, whether you're send Colby

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: to the White House, a lot of things. Oh well,

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: more than that, they made that documentary called like I

1474
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: Think Combatant in Chief where they literally lie, not that

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01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: Trump didn't play a role early on in allowing.

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: The USCA to use this casinos, which was legitimately valuable.

1477
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: But then I saw a follow up a Washington Post

1478
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: op ed in the wake of Trump getting booed at

1479
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 1: UFC two forty four, and someone was arguing, like, Trump

1480
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: played a pretty integral role in saving the sport. No,

1481
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: we did not like that. He played a helpful role,

1482
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: and I can acknowledge as much, but it's simply inaccurate

1483
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: to like say, wow, so.

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Speaker 3: They and then he was a rival with affliction that

1485
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: went down flames.

1486
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: Right, And the point is it's like, it's not about

1487
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: whether you Electrump or not. It's about eventually someone you

1488
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: don't like is going to be in a position where

1489
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: that organization is going to wash their record.

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Speaker 2: What will you say then? And so, given that they

1491
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: have done some of this stuff.

1492
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: What does it say that the fact that they're on

1493
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: ESPN never seems to have any It never seems to

1494
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: cost them, right, you would think, oh, you're an ESPN,

1495
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: what a disinfectant.

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Speaker 2: You're in the mainstream. Now it's going to go after you.

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01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse and Dana on the same bed.

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01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: So how come it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Dollars? I guess I don't know, you know, I don't.

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know why that doesn't because

1501
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: people just want to care about the fights. They don't

1502
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: necessarily care about the court.

1503
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: Really, okay, but why doesn't Bomony Jones talk about it?

1504
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: Why doesn't Sarah Spain talk about it?

1505
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: Sarah Spain, Hector's the Free World about all of the problems,

1506
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: some of them quite real, many of them quite real.

1507
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: And I would say some of it is okay, some

1508
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: of it is ignorance. There's a mainstream even to this

1509
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 3: day with the popularity of MMA, and you have seen

1510
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: the fact that you UFC as an ESPN contract. Who

1511
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 3: still compartmentalized that as cage fighting? Right, Well, that's a

1512
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: cage fighting. I know it's on it's on our network tonight,

1513
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: but it's that cage fighting thing. I don't think people

1514
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: dig through enough. I mean you could just watch like

1515
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: one boxing press conference today and be like, why are

1516
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 3: we not writing five stories on what that guy said?

1517
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: You know, if that was the NFL quarterback, he'd be suspended.

1518
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: It's combat sports. It's some degree is still considered a

1519
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: different world.

1520
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's still considered the Remember those kids at

1521
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: school like that, Uh that couldn't act normal and they

1522
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 1: got put in like their own recess area, the cage.

1523
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: Did you go to schools like that? I like that

1524
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: scene from Dumb and Dumber where Sea Bass is coming

1525
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I rememberends Luke. There you go.

1526
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that. I still think to a degree

1527
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: people don't care. And then on top of it, uh,

1528
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: they've got a big deal with the UFC and then

1529
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: they're cashing them checks.

1530
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one it's partly media hypocrisy. I think

1531
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: we should say as much. Right when you're like, oh man,

1532
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick's really done wrong. Hey what do you think

1533
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: about Ramzan Kadeerra. I've taking pictures of the UFC champ

1534
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: and they just you know, they they don't know though

1535
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: they don't care. Yeah, but sometimes they do and they

1536
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: don't say anything. So one it is ignorance partly. Two

1537
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: it's media hypocrisy, I think. Three the answer that I

1538
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: would come to is, yeah, they just basically look at

1539
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: comp I had a sports fan explained to me once.

1540
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: He's like, when he goes to.

1541
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: A game at a bar or you know, the door

1542
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: has the game on, you know, you can look around

1543
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: and sort of feel like you're around sports fans. He

1544
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: couldn't quite put his finger on. He goes when the

1545
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: fights are there, he goes. It's a different crowd. It's

1546
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: a different crowd. It's a little rowdier a little bit.

1547
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: You know, these you can tell these people who don't

1548
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: necessarily some of there's some overlap, but they don't necessarily

1549
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: they're just not a sports crowd in that way. And

1550
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: I tend to think that it's like esports. You know,

1551
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: they'll include us in the community of sports to the

1552
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: extent that it is beneficial, but they don't think they

1553
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: really care about our troubles. I don't think they really

1554
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: care about our issues, and I don't think that they

1555
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: really they're not really invested in solving any of our problems.

1556
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 1: This is an odd couple.

1557
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: I'm trying to come up with dick jokes in the moment,

1558
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: and you're going pseudo political and social.

1559
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: And is the question that there's great though it's great entertainment.

1560
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: I think it would just for example, my dad found

1561
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: out about the Ramza Couderev thing on his own and

1562
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: he was like, how is this not bigger news? And

1563
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just don't think people care, and it's

1564
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to that. I mean, if

1565
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: it was basketball, I mean, you know, Darryl Mordy can't

1566
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: even tweet support about Hong Kong protest. By the way,

1567
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: the Hong Kong elections, the pro democracy parties whooped ass.

1568
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: So that was good news.

1569
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on here from Jake Avert, Who's

1570
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: next Brian Campbell for Amanda Nunaz. If she defeats GDR

1571
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: in December, she could continue cleaning out both divisions, but

1572
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like she has any big fights left

1573
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: like Ronda or Cybworgan with Valentina decides to move on. Yeah,

1574
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: this is the problem.

1575
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 3: And you know we talked about this problem before that

1576
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: she's been so dominant, she's cleaned out both divisions. The

1577
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 3: Bandewet division has never really recycled the post Rhonda in

1578
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: terms of building up new and young and ready opponents.

1579
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: A couple of young names getting close, looking pretty good.

1580
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a go to name at the

1581
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 3: moment in either division, and that's sort of a problem.

1582
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 3: I think you're going to be able to produce though,

1583
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 3: whoever's next in line to keep the chains moving. But yes,

1584
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 3: her next big fight, her next, that fight that matters

1585
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: that we should get excited about is probably going to

1586
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 3: end up being Valentine at one thirty five in a trilogy,

1587
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: unless somebody like a I don't know, like an Aspen

1588
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 3: lad can get hot and rise at the right one,

1589
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 3: you know, at the right time.

1590
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't have much to add to that. Also, Jay's

1591
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: in my ear, so let's go to the last one. Wow,

1592
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: this is from Luke Thomas news to Brian Campbell. Is

1593
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: Cannibal Core the best band ever? Brian Camill, what do

1594
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: you think? Who let that get through?

1595
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: No? No, but you're trying to tell me that they're

1596
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 3: like the standard bearers in this genre of like, uh,

1597
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 3: you know, we can make it called death metal. It's

1598
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: called death metal. See to be honest with you. Before

1599
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 3: meeting you, I'd never heard of them, so I don't

1600
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: are they really they're the standard? You know, when I

1601
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 3: think of I think Man of War, Mega Death, I think.

1602
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: It's not death metal, that's thrash metal. That's different.

1603
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: What's the difference between death and thrash? Largely death metal?

1604
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: First of all, the sounds a little bit different. I

1605
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: would I would classify it as have youla. Sorry, Claire,

1606
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: is thrash metal? What'ster then thrash metal? You're talking about

1607
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: nineties thrash metal. All of the themes are about sort

1608
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: of horrific murder, gore. That's great, Yeah, that kind of thing,

1609
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: and you put those headphones around your wife's stomach for

1610
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: nine months.

1611
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, my kid came out beautiful and smart as ship.

1612
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: So what do you know?

1613
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're an incredible band. Yeah, I mean among

1614
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: death metal, I don't know they're the biggest. There's some

1615
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: other big ones. Six feet under, Morbid Angel, that kind

1616
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: of thing. But I heard war Machine was a big

1617
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: fan of them before the downward turn. Oh really, is

1618
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: that what you're gonna say that I'm going to commit

1619
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: horrific crimes in the name of music? Who are you

1620
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: fucking Tipper Gore? What's wrong with you?

1621
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: Got wow? Who's wrong with you?

1622
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:20,839
Speaker 1: These kids and their video games, that's the problem with society. Yeah, thanks, okay, Boomer,

1623
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: all you want, Okay, Boom. The music just kind of sucks, man, Look,

1624
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: it's not for everybody. I don't need music that's gonna

1625
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: help me have a good cry and eat a bucket

1626
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: of ice cream and then let's look then go to

1627
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: meetings for Coux anonymous.

1628
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: That's not what I fair. What do I love out

1629
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: of music? If it's if it's more of a guitar

1630
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: driven jam band type thing, it's certainly the sound I

1631
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: don't like it.

1632
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: I like that. I just want to tell you.

1633
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 3: I can get the sounds and the melodies and the

1634
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 3: feel and the groove and all that. If it's more

1635
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 3: acoustic folk and it's more about the song and the

1636
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: lyrics and the story, I can adapt to that. I

1637
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: also like me some hard rock when you just want

1638
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: to Yeah, but when you're going into the category of

1639
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: death metal and it's just screaming to him And I'm

1640
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 3: not trying to sound like Boomer or old man or

1641
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: get off my lawn. But what is that attraction where

1642
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 3: you can sip from that cup on a full time

1643
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 3: basis and be like, yeah, that's my music.

1644
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: Man. Well even I have to take breaks from it

1645
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: because is it's so heavy. But again it goes back

1646
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: to the original. It's like, look, if some people want

1647
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: to go tripping Billy's with Dave Matthews, man, get the

1648
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: fuck out of here. You can go do that.

1649
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't care. But for me, I'll just explain it

1650
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: this way.

1651
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: When Taylor Swift comes on and I see people being like,

1652
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: oh my god, did you hear about tasor I listen

1653
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: to her music, and I just I just don't feel anything.

1654
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

1655
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm not moved by die inside. Uh No, I don't

1656
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: feel any I don't.

1657
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: I don't.

1658
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't. Actually I don't even hate it. I just

1659
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 1: I get no reaction. But when Corpse Grinder gets on

1660
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: there and says make them suffer, dude, I'm not. I

1661
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: don't explain it. I feel I feel something, and so

1662
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 1: to me, partly it's just an innate like I think gravitation,

1663
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: and I think also I like boundary pushers, dude, I

1664
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: like and and by the way, I didn't like this

1665
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of stuff overnight. I just sort of trended in

1666
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 1: that direction over time. You know you had mentioned before

1667
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: the show, like Pantera, right a little bit, Yeah, right,

1668
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: I started. I started like Metallica, then Pantera, and just

1669
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: kind of ended up here because I found it like,

1670
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: if you really want people out there, you know, just

1671
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: absolutely breaking all the norms.

1672
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: I don't know where you go beyond death mental day.

1673
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: I'll try Cannibal Corpses, the box set, come with a

1674
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: trench Coat or no, the trench Coat Mafia. Listen to

1675
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: your kind of music. Well, I don't want to hear

1676
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: it all sad, emo, shit, I'm sorry. I don't like

1677
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: death Cab for cutie Face. It's not my lane. All right,

1678
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: that's not my lane. Keep it going. I will follow

1679
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: you into This is the time for slapstick. Oh were

1680
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: there yet? Were there yet? Hey? We got an intro.

1681
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: We got some animation here. Luke, have you seen this ship? Oh?

1682
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: The old pop You didn't approve that?

1683
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: All right, Luke? You know have you seen this ship?

1684
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 3: Is the viral combat videos from around the globe. By

1685
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 3: the way, shout out to Kaposa at grab Manaca Hitmanbaca Hitman.

1686
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 3: That guy fills all of our lives with this type

1687
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: of stuff. You get a lot of stuff from him.

1688
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 3: You go to his Twitter account first to find this.

1689
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: First we go to Romania Luke Dynamite Fighting Show. Check

1690
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 3: out this brutal ko by Costin Minku forfeit your soul

1691
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: on the ring, apron. Look, you want to ring the bell?

1692
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 3: How about you knock the guy out on top of

1693
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 3: the bell. How about that the fight's over. Just get

1694
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 3: Alex Philippe, yes, sending him to hell. Luke violence of

1695
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: that back, tad on out and Costin loved that. Wow, Wow,

1696
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: you get down with dynamite fighting shoot.

1697
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: Kick Boxing is so different than boxing. It's pretty pretty

1698
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: brus brutalis.

1699
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: Wow wow.

1700
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go to PBC. We know Deontay

1701
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: Wilder had the.

1702
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 3: Big knockout his brother, though Marcellus Wilder the cruiserweight on

1703
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 3: the undercart and oh boy.

1704
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: So opposite stances like his brother fought. Look at look

1705
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: at the look a long take the angle.

1706
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: Going down like Ozzie canseako.

1707
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: And then so here's the deal.

1708
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: Marcellus Wiley five and one is a cruisewight. He was

1709
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 3: dominating this fight and Dustin Long really did the opposite

1710
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: of what he did, basically what Deontay did, lost the

1711
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: whole fight and then landed one punch and basically turned

1712
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: him into Frank stallone.

1713
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: Look at it side stuff on the angle and then

1714
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: oh that is right on the right in the mouth right.

1715
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 1: And also like Deontay, we talked about it on Dissected,

1716
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: not this, but he lands when the when the arm

1717
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 1: is kind of still, which is maximum.

1718
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: Do you like bootleg boxing brothers like Bobby Paciao and

1719
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: uh Matthew hatt and I.

1720
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: Find brothers in combat sports typically just not great duos.

1721
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 2: It's a little Batman and Robin Ish.

1722
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is, it is. It is all right,

1723
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep it rolling. We're gonna go to Bellatur, London. Luke,

1724
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: tell me about this submission. It kind of surprised me.

1725
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: From half guard.

1726
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 3: This is Kent copping in getting the tap by sticking

1727
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: his elbow into the guy's Adams Apple submission.

1728
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: I've never the way I explain that is, you can't

1729
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: beat anybody good that way. So watch the guy on

1730
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: bottom that never bridges. See how he never bridges. He's

1731
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: actually holding the guy on top in half guard. He's

1732
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: thinking he's holding him there. He's thinking he's holding him

1733
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: there to prevent the pass. Actually he crosses up right there.

1734
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: But you should be bucking because there's no reason they

1735
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: should be able to throw weight on your throat.

1736
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 3: Look, if you didn't know anything, and I don't know

1737
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 3: anything about the internal things of this, you've been you've

1738
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: been rolling for years. This looks weak to me. Remember

1739
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: BJ told GSP only a bitch taps out on strikes?

1740
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 3: Does a bitch tap out with an elbowd of the well?

1741
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: I would never call a pro fighter that, But what

1742
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: I would say is no, this is uh, this is

1743
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: I hate to say this way. This is white belt material.

1744
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: You should never anybody good would never come close to

1745
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 1: top it?

1746
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: Is it because he went in there with the mohawk

1747
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 3: that did that hinder him?

1748
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: And by the way, he see how his left knie

1749
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: has show back up one more time, Please pull back up.

1750
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: See how his left nie is up. He's not he's

1751
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: not shrimping to guard. He's not stepping out and then

1752
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: using that need to push the hip away. He's literally

1753
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: just laying flat and taking it. Thank you, Belator, matchmakers.

1754
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay in Belatore London.

1755
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've seen this before, and this

1756
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 3: ship can't be legal dude tries a spinning back hick

1757
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 3: to a down opponent.

1758
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: You can hit the body, right, Bob? Is that legal dude?

1759
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: They there's some shit going on in Bellatorre, bro Man.

1760
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 3: We should have a sub segment of this called spinny shit,

1761
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 3: because I think they get.

1762
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: Some fighters out there in Bellatore that just they do

1763
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: weird things.

1764
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 3: This is almost like Michelle Paeda, only he would do

1765
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 3: it off the top of the cage.

1766
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm not even sure what functional value that.

1767
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ain't That ain't good. Let's stay in line

1768
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: with spinny shit. Big weekend for k one. You know

1769
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: this guy Yuki.

1770
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: Agalwa uh Kaposa does Yeah, look at him watching am

1771
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 3: I on the right one.

1772
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: That's how my liver felt after the cannibal corpse concert.

1773
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: Oh I had so many drinks last night.

1774
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: Oh I had. I had I think four or five doubles.

1775
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 3: So that's his second body shot knockout of the same night.

1776
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: This is the did I give the wrong gift? I

1777
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: may have given the wrong gift. This is the first one.

1778
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 3: So the second one, which we may not have footage

1779
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: of is Yuki goes out there, some dude tries spinny

1780
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 3: shit on him and misses. Yuki comes back with a

1781
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 3: spinning back kick from the sever playbook and basically takes

1782
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 3: his soul.

1783
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: But we go.

1784
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 3: We got more spinny shit in K one. This is

1785
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 3: Yasu hero Keto. Look at them f around?

1786
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: Oh, the one is the ship? K one is the ship.

1787
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 3: That's a Katsuya jinbo who went down there? Yasu hero

1788
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 3: Keto going Magic Johnson with the nola.

1789
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 2: How do you order at a Japanese restaurant?

1790
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm right on top of these pronunciations. I'd like the

1791
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: seaweed salad. Can we see this one again? And the

1792
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: mo may talk about spinny shit? Here? Do you guys

1793
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: have mayo for my sushi? I'm Brian Campbell.

1794
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: Okay uh.

1795
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: That was a heck of a no look spinning battle joke.

1796
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta find more street fights where there's.

1797
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: Show talking about Dix. I don't think we can.

1798
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 3: Hey, let's move on out of this. I forgot to

1799
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 3: put the other video in with with the spinny ship loop.

1800
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: You can call this the Boston tea bag party.

1801
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: Look at this? I had dates n like this.

1802
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 3: That's not it.

1803
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: That's not in the face, that's in the dong. Look

1804
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: at that. Wow, dude, and she got head trauma too.

1805
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: Look at this ship.

1806
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: Wow, this guy dominic.

1807
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: This is me arguing with people about pds online.

1808
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah man, oh wow that look.

1809
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 3: I mean everyone plays one on one with their significant other.

1810
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 2: Why would you do a dare like this with a

1811
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: white guy dunking that guy?

1812
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: Wow? Is that Derek King our social media?

1813
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: What a terrible massage?

1814
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 3: Oh my god, look at just now serving bags right, wow,

1815
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: just just just uh, she got follow her head.

1816
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: Charge your block on that one, Rex Chapman, what do

1817
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: you think I'll say?

1818
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: Charge?

1819
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might charge him with indecent Yeah, that's wow.

1820
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah man, that's a mouthful.

1821
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: That is Yeah.

1822
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: You ever you ever you ever touched him? You ever

1823
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 3: put it up? I can't see you being able to

1824
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: play basketball. In fact, we should play one on one

1825
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: for this show on the street. I bet you you're

1826
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 3: awful at hoops.

1827
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: Oh well, I haven't played in twenty years.

1828
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: Like played in twenty years. I'll take you to the

1829
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: whole billy hole. First of all, I will block you

1830
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: like Matumbo. No, like wow, I didn't know the only

1831
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: thing I don't have any more stamina? Maybe a jump

1832
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: shot too, but I got everything else all right. No, No,

1833
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. It's not a bit. I've

1834
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: been able. I've been this tall, literally have been this tall.

1835
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 3: You're trying to tell us that you've dunk. Hold on,

1836
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 3: hold on, time out on this tea bag right here.

1837
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: You're trying to tell us that Luke Thomas, all six

1838
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: or four of you has dunked before.

1839
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: Yes, many times.

1840
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: Donuts.

1841
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 2: Uh that too, but uh, yes, I have dunk. It's

1842
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: not it's not that hard.

1843
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: Now are you just barely putting the ball above? Yeah?

1844
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: It's not a pretty dunk.

1845
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not I'm not up there like fucking Jordan,

1846
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, doing what of Isaiah Ryders? Have we dunked

1847
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: in a game?

1848
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 2: Have I dunked in a game?

1849
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 1: No? Did you play high school basketball?

1850
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

1851
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: Were you a contributor? Uh? That's what do you mention

1852
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: that until private school? Yes? Public school no? Once you

1853
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: had to start playing with the uh.

1854
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 3: The city kids never never would have guessed that you

1855
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: dumped the ball. In fact, I may need Can we

1856
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 3: call can we phone a friend? Can we call h

1857
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 3: East kellenbor Where are you from Old Marietta? Can we

1858
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 3: call him Old Mariette?

1859
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: They wouldn't.

1860
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: I didn't play in Marita.

1861
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna track down your coach, your coach, and I'm

1862
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: gonna get him on the area you're welcome to. All right,

1863
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: I got I got one more for you.

1864
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 3: I got one more boring. What guys, we don't have

1865
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 3: that Kale from Glory?

1866
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: All right?

1867
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 3: Check out this shot? Oh God, talk about bend it

1868
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 3: like Beckham. That guy's not gonna pee straight for a week.

1869
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: Look at this.

1870
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: God, there's some football for you, Luke, some football.

1871
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: You want football, I got it for you.

1872
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: Wow again.

1873
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: I like how the premise of this segment is supposed

1874
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: to be combat sport highlights.

1875
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 3: It's just Dick Jon't stand in the aisle, jerk. Look

1876
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 3: at this guy. Wow, that's what you had posting up

1877
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 3: on his tripod. I'll take care of that. Look at

1878
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: it all right? Right off somebody's head too. The deflection's beautiful.

1879
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 3: First of all, that shot sucks, and then second of all,

1880
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 3: look at this guy. Oh well, these are out of order.

1881
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 3: You're killing me today, Jay, You're killing You're throwing off

1882
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 3: my mojo. We do have one more for you over

1883
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 3: the weekend. From Glory the Fastest Ko and Glory History.

1884
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 3: John King needs ten seconds to send this guy from

1885
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: seven to eleven to hell.

1886
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: Look at this? Wow? Who passed that guy for a commission? There?

1887
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 1: Look at this? I don't know. I'm sure Todd Grisham

1888
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: was on the call. Guy's got good abs for forty

1889
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: three years old.

1890
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: You know who's forty three?

1891
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 3: Todd Grisham, not that guy. Wow, that guy's dead.

1892
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: Look at it. I probably drove the uper home right

1893
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: after they woke them up, right, all right? This segment, Yeah,

1894
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: it's the best. It's the best. It's the best. This

1895
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: segment is about insulting fighters and dick jokes. That's that's

1896
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: the intersection. Oh fuck you for getting knocked out. Have

1897
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: you seen this ship?

1898
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 3: Yes, another successful week in the books.

1899
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: All right, but uh oh god, alright with that in mind,

1900
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: we've been fired yet. All right, Okay, time to do

1901
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: odds and ends. Oh you're gonna have a cutter Thanksgiving

1902
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: this weekend, or we don't talk about that. A cutter thing. Dude,

1903
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm not Arab. I don't know why you keep saying that.

1904
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: You said you grew up there I spent six months

1905
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: in Doha as a child.

1906
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 2: That's it. Go ahead, what's your odds and ends?

1907
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: O odds and ends.

1908
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 3: This week boxing is heating up at one hundred and

1909
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: thirty pounds junior lightweight or super featherweight, depending how you

1910
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 3: get down. And this is normally a stopover division. Featherweight

1911
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 3: has been a sexy one for years. Lightweight that won

1912
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: thirty five, this is that one in between. But Leo

1913
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 3: Santa Cruz moved up over the weekend one a second

1914
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 3: Gary title from Miguel Flores. He wants all the big names,

1915
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 3: he wants all the smoke now Gary Russell, who's moved

1916
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 3: up to one thirty, he wants Jervonte who just moved

1917
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 3: up to thirty five. But at thirty this weekend on ESPN,

1918
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: you've got Carl Frampton for the featherweight titleist moving up.

1919
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 3: You've got Oscar Valdez, former featherweight titleist moving up. You've

1920
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: also got rene Verdroo knocked out Andrew Concio over the weekend.

1921
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 3: There is big business to be had at one thirty

1922
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 3: and in the surrounding weight classes, boring, Leo Santa Cruz

1923
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Speaker 3: is the most excited, most the most boring exciting fighter ever.

1924
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Speaker 3: He's all pressure style, in your face the whole time.

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Speaker 3: But because he doesn't have fight changing power, all the

1926
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Speaker 3: rounds look the same. Because he's such a good boxer

1927
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Speaker 3: and he puts on the pressure and he was facing

1928
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Speaker 3: a second tier opponent, so unfortunately he's facing too many

1929
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Speaker 3: of them. But the fact that he wants big business

1930
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty with Gary Russell, with Dravonte, you've got

1931
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Speaker 3: Lomachenko lingering around this division at thirty five, willing to

1932
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Speaker 3: come back down to thirty, and you still have big

1933
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Speaker 3: names of twenty six who can come up at any time.

1934
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Speaker 1: There's potential for some big matchups to come.

1935
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Speaker 3: Gonna be interesting to see how Carl Frampton looks the weekend,

1936
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Speaker 3: because if he wins, an Oscar Valdez wins, that's a

1937
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Speaker 3: fight you can match, and that is fireworks.

1938
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Speaker 1: I would love to see that. Fair enough for my

1939
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Speaker 1: odds and ends, I'll do the I mentioned it earlier,

1940
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Speaker 1: the Spider Tournament in Korea, South Korea.

1941
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Speaker 2: They held it.

1942
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Speaker 1: There were two different winners, but the one I want

1943
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Speaker 1: to focus on was the I think it was the

1944
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Speaker 1: minus one hundred kilo winner, Canaan Duarte. This guy, keep

1945
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Speaker 1: an eye on him. Twenty one years old, he's already

1946
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: won the world championships at black belt, he won an

1947
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Speaker 1: ADCC medal. He couldn't be Gordon Ryan in no gi,

1948
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Speaker 1: but he certainly is in his own weight class, was

1949
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: incredibly competitive and he's just just twenty one years old,

1950
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: so he's And by the way, he had to beat

1951
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Speaker 1: Nicholas Marigali to win in the finals with different some

1952
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 1: controversy about it. But to be twenty one, to be

1953
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Speaker 1: an autos black belt, to have titles in the GEE,

1954
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Speaker 1: to have titles outside of the GE. Remember Gordon Ryan's

1955
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Speaker 1: twenty four. Where's Kanaan Dwarte going to be what he's

1956
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Speaker 1: twenty four? And maybe he will be as good? Maybe

1957
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Speaker 1: you want. I'm simply saying at twenty one he has

1958
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: already showed absolute flashes of brilliance, high technical ability, great athleticism, speed, aggression,

1959
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Speaker 1: the whole bit.

1960
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Speaker 2: He is the total package at jiu jitsu.

1961
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he has MMA ambitions, but if

1962
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: he does, he's got a good style for it too.

1963
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: He finds the back rather easily so and also shouts

1964
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Speaker 1: to Gary Toner who beat Dobby Hamosh in a very

1965
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: very exciting matchup a fight to win pros for the

1966
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Speaker 1: Sunny List in Showtime dot Yet we ran the promo

1967
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Speaker 1: off the beginning.

1968
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Speaker 2: There, I have not it's called Pariah. I'm meaning to

1969
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: watch it.

1970
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: I've been a piece of business, good piece of business.

1971
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Speaker 3: Really get you thinking about some controversy in there.

1972
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Speaker 1: It's interesting. If you guys want to watch it or

1973
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Speaker 1: anything else on Showtime, look at the bottom here you

1974
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Speaker 1: can see it. You can use the code combat with

1975
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Speaker 1: a K. You can go to showtime dot com slash

1976
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Speaker 1: try thirty. You can try Showtime for free. You can

1977
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Speaker 1: try it for thirty days, right, get a good look

1978
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: at it. You can take take it all the way

1979
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Speaker 1: up to I believe New Year's Eve Day. So why

1980
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Speaker 1: not see what's on Showtime. Lots of good stuff including

1981
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: so boxing coming up on December seventh. This documentary is

1982
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Speaker 1: Charleston Billions is on there of a highly rated, award

1983
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Speaker 1: winning show, and many many other.

1984
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Speaker 3: Programs back December twenty eighth, Against Your Erga, Scambo and Atlantiship.

1985
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1986
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Speaker 2: So there's lots of stuff to get to on Showtime.

1987
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Speaker 1: So while this show is free, certainly you can get

1988
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Speaker 1: it for free for thirty days with that trial there,

1989
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Speaker 1: so please check that out. By the way, it looks

1990
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Speaker 1: good for us with the bosses. When you do your

1991
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Speaker 1: own plans, we'll do that.

1992
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Speaker 3: Yeah, please please please do all right, Brian, please hit subscribe.

1993
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Speaker 3: All right, it's time. It's the holiday season.

1994
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Speaker 1: Give back. All right, let's go. Well.

1995
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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy your Thanksgiving.

1996
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Do you guys sit around and just tell

1997
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: dicking fart jokes.

1998
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Speaker 3: No, we have an outdoor touch football game in the

1999
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 3: backyard every single year. People still talking about the bloody

2000
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 3: toe game when I rallied to lead my team to victory.

2001
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: Make it fun of my athletic achievements, and you are

2002
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Speaker 2: al bundie.

2003
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this game is like there's kids in it,

2004
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: there's adults. But it's serious. How many games serious?

2005
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: How many people?

2006
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: Nine on nine?

2007
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 3: We do a draft before people, then we do a

2008
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Speaker 3: secret vote for the MVP. Afterwards, it's wild. It's fantastic

2009
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,520
Speaker 3: me pie, and then a Madden tournament and then a UFC.

2010
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Speaker 1: Video Game tournament to close.

2011
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Speaker 2: How drunk do you get?

2012
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 3: But there's bud lights serve there. I'll put them down.

2013
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: I'll put them down. Yeah yeah, Then I gotta drive

2014
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 3: the family home now, so I gotta be gotta be smart.

2015
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Speaker 1: All right, Well what about yourself? What's gonna happen here?

2016
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: You know, what is your story?

2017
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: Like I can bash my family because they don't watch

2018
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 1: anything or listen to anything I do. Uh, they hate football, seriously,

2019
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: they can't stand football. So the deal is because I

2020
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 1: have the baby now, they're all gonna come to my

2021
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: house for Thanksgiving. I don't have to travel, which is good.

2022
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 1: And it's my house. Man, I feel like I should

2023
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: be able to tell me if I'm wrong. Seriously, if

2024
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: I go to someone else's house and they say, hey,

2025
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to put on the TV for football,

2026
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: I find out to be crazy. But it's their house.

2027
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: You kind of got to respect the rules. It's my house.

2028
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I should be able to have football on.

2029
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, during things you want to you want to walk

2030
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 3: around in your boxers, it's your damn house.

2031
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: I pay the fucking mortgage, right, so I'm gonna I'm

2032
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: gonna do that.

2033
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna that on, God damn it.

2034
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: So then, yeah, domestic bliss going on here.

2035
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then uh, then we do a lot of

2036
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 2: stuff with the baby, a lot of stuff.

2037
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Playing with it? What what what's the food? One piece

2038
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: of food you're most excited about. One piece of food

2039
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm most excited about. I would say, my brothers potatoes obrotten?

2040
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: All right, slice them up, cheese, bake them up. What's

2041
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: your brother's name, Matt brother, Matt, Yeah, shout out to that.

2042
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, all right, Well, have a good Thanksgiving.

2043
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: Thank you sir, right back at you. I hope you

2044
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Speaker 1: have a good time. Hope you guys have a great

2045
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving as well. Like I said, man, super thankful to you.

2046
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: One more time. You can get the go get the

2047
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Speaker 1: Sunny listing doc on showtime with the trial with the

2048
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Speaker 1: code with combat. Here you go. You can follow it

2049
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Speaker 1: by the way, they got to think up for morning

2050
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2051
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2052
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2053
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Speaker 3: No no stick picks in the dms, but send us

2054
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Speaker 3: your feedback. We love you all right, keep watching.

2055
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 2: Don't drink and drive over the holidays.

2056
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Speaker 1: Stay safe. We'll see you back here in a week.

2057
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: Enjoy Thanksgiving and until then they all of your gains.

2058
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Speaker 2: Be loyal