1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: We're here. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four o'clock and 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: then after four o'clock it's John Cobelt's show on demand 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app. And Welcome to National Radio Day, 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: which I'm sure people are celebrating all over the United 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: States right now. Our little treat for National Radio Day, 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: and I had nothing to do with this, is if 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: you go on any of our social media platforms, Instagram 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: or Facebook or x you will see it's kind of 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: a before and after picture. It's me at my first 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: job in Kent, Pennsylvania in nineteen eighty four, and then 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: me over forty years later. It's like a before and 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: after what radio does to you then and now and 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: then and now? Yes, and so if you want to 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: see those two photos from my first job and from 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: my current job, I don't know if it's my last one, 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: but you can. You can go to x or go 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: to Facebook, go to Instagram and see it and and 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: celebrate National Radio Day for the six of us that 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: are left in the business. We all hope to live 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: to the next National Radio day big at. A lot 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: of big news today, like more big news than we 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: probably have time for, but let's get to it. The 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: former fire chief of the City of Los Angeles, Kristin Crowley, 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: you may remember her. She is filing a precursor to 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: a lawsuit against the city and to sum up a 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: part of the lawsuit, Garon Bass is a stinking liar. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: That's the message from Kristin Crowley, and she is accusing 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: Mayor Bass of defamation. It comes down to Bass stupidly 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: going to Africa when she was getting fire and wind 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: warnings that everybody else in the city recognized, and she 34 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: did even cares the truth. And so she went on 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: the plane to Africa for some cocktail party, and meantime, 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Palisades burns down, and as soon as she came back 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: she realized it was like, Oh, I've really destroyed my career, 38 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: haven't I. Oh this is bad. I remember she was 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: in shock when she came off the plane from Africa. 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: A reporter chased her for about a minute and a 41 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: half and she didn't respond. It was total silence, really damning. 42 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, she couldn't even offer a fake bit of 43 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: empathy for the people who were actively losing their homes, 44 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: and then it finally sunk in that, yeah, she should 45 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: have been here. There should have been fire crews prepositioned 46 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: all along the Santa Monica Mountains, especially on the south side, 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades and Brentwood and bel Air and Hollywood Hills 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 2: and then you know, everything from west east. 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: But she didn't. 50 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: She didn't hold any meetings. She didn't care. I mean, 51 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: there's two ways to put it. You know, it didn't 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: matter that she was the mayor of Los Angeles, doesn't 53 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: matter that there were I mean, there's some of the 54 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: warnings were in purple. I thought red was the worst 55 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: warning the Weather Service could give out for weather and fire. 56 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: There's actually another level, and that's purple. And she didn't care, 57 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: blew it all off, realized she had to blame somebody else, 58 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: and so she dumped all over Kristin Crowley, the fire chief, 59 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: and so she repeatedly lied about Kristin Crowley. According to 60 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Crowley's precursor to a lawsuit, it's called a formal torte 61 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: complaint and under the law you have to to file 62 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: that first, and then when the city dismisses it, then 63 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: you go with the full blown lawsuit, and here's what 64 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Crowley said. Bass initially praised the department's preparedness and responded positively, 65 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: but as criticism mounted over her absence, Bass reversed course. 66 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: She sought to shift blame to Crowley, falsely stating that 67 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: Bass was not aware of the nationally anticipated weather event, 68 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: falsely stating that Crowley sent a thousand firefighters home who 69 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: could have fought the blaze, and misrepresented the department's budget. 70 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: This is the crux of when everything went haywire between 71 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: Bass and Crowley, because Bass had cut the fire department 72 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: budget and Crowley went on Fox eleven. 73 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: And it all out. 74 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: And the quote was, we are screaming to be properly funded. 75 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: I was on January tenth, three days after the fire, 76 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: and Bass called her to the Mayor's office and listened 77 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: to Bass's response, and it's true. She cut almost eighteen 78 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: million dollars and eliminated, according to Crowley, positions that are 79 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: critical to maintaining fire engines, trucks, and ambulances. Well after 80 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Crowley said on Fox eleven, we are screaming to be 81 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: properly funded, Bass called Crowley in and said, I don't 82 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: know why you had to do that. Normally we're on 83 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: the same page. I don't know why you have to 84 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: say stuff to the media, because when you talk to 85 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: the media, you're talking to the public. And because you 86 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: did cut the funding, and you cut the funding in 87 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: way that really crimped the fire department's response and the 88 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: public should know this, and the media is the conduit. 89 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: But that's his first reaction is, well, why did you 90 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: have to tell everybody? You didn't have to tell everybody 91 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: that I cut the fire to budget, did you? 92 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Why'd you do that? 93 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure they were drawing up some fake 94 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: public relations statements to fog up the fact that our 95 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: fire department was funded at a fifty percent level of 96 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: what it should be. Fifty percent you're supposed to have. 97 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: I believe the recommendation from the national organization is two 98 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: firefighters for every I don't want to get the proportion wrong. 99 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: You're supposed to have two firefighters per x. We had 100 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: one firefight fighter per x. We exactly half of what 101 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: we needed, not to mention fire trucks that were busted 102 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: not repaired. We didn't have repair people. Obviously, we didn't 103 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: have water and Bass never held that meet. Bess ever 104 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: held a meeting at all, worried about the fire danger, 105 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: because otherwise you would have filled up the reservoir months 106 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: in advance. It's like, hey, fire seasons coming. Do we 107 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: have everything we need? Do we have enough fire trucks, 108 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: enough firefighters, enough water? The reservoir is filmed. That's Karen 109 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: Bass is one of her basic jobs and she's a 110 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: failure and she should not be mayor. She should have resigned. 111 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: She should have been somehow forced out. This is a 112 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: disgrace that she exists in the mayor's office, and Crowley 113 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: called her out right away. 114 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: We're screaming to be fun. 115 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: In her claim, Crowley says she repeatedly warned of the 116 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: fire Department's worsening resource and staffing crisis before the fire, 117 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: and said that the aging infrastructure, of the surging emergency calls, 118 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: and the shrinking staff left the city at risk. She 119 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: did do that, She's right and best ignored her. Now 120 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: how anybody could tolerate Karen Bass still in office? And 121 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: then she fires Kristen Crowley and blames everything on her. 122 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: What a snake, What a dishon is snake? She's We're 123 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: gonna have Michael Monks on next hour. To talk about 124 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: more details on the lawsuit and go through some of 125 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: the false claims that Crowley says Bass made. But she 126 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: kind of knew it in real time, didn't she. I 127 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: think we all knew that. When Crowley got fired, Bass 128 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: was looking to escapegoat somebody to change the subject because 129 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: she couldn't. She couldn't talk around being in Africa. 130 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: She couldn't. 131 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: She actually actually said on television I sawry to see 132 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: this that she wasn't aware of the fire. That's another 133 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 2: big lie. She claimed nobody told her. She claimed nobody 134 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: told her about the fire or the fire danger. Just 135 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: astonishing that she still exists in the mayor's office. Absolutely astonishing, 136 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: and what it says about much of the public, who 137 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: collectively has their head up their rear ends probably scrolling 138 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: on their phones. God, but this woman is a disaster. 139 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: And eventually you can't have a disaster of a mayor forever. 140 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: When we had we had Garcetti for over nine years 141 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: and then Bass. You have this go on long enough 142 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: when you're not looking. The fire department is only half 143 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: funded and nobody's in place when the big burn happens. 144 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about this coming up. We also have 145 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: a lot to cover with Newsom's nonsense. To readdistrict. 146 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I 147 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: A M six forty. 148 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: Ray Lopez, our producer. Happy birthday to that. Although he 149 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: hates that acknowledgement. Uh, I just realized Ray and I've 150 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: been working together for about half his life. 151 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: How scary is that? This is this is what he's 152 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: devoted his career to, this thing. 153 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's his judgment, you know, that's that's what 154 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: he's decided to do. Anyway, Happy birthday, Ray. Now the 155 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: fire chief. Former fire chief Kristin Crowley has she and 156 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: her lawyers have released. 157 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: The official they called a formal torte claim. 158 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: It's a precursor to the lawsuit against the City of 159 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: Los Angeles because Karen Bass fired her, and she's accusing 160 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: cass of a Bass of defamation, retaliation and negligence, claiming dishonesty, scapegoating, 161 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: unlawful retaliation that destroyed her career, not because she did 162 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: anything wrong, but she told the truth. And we're going 163 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: to play you the circumstances here. You mentioned them in 164 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: the last segment. So Karen Bass in Africa in Ghana, 165 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: at a cocktail party because the president of Ghana had 166 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: been inaugurated. Not here, even though she had several days 167 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: of warning that the worst possible firestorm may happen. She 168 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: comes off the plane twenty four hours late, and there's 169 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: a British reporter who tails her from the plane. I 170 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: guess to the terminal, listen, do you. 171 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: Owe citizens and apology for being absent while their homes 172 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department budget 173 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: by millions of dollars? 174 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: Madam? There? 175 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: Have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing 176 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: to say to the citizens today? Elon Mosk says that 177 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor? 178 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? 179 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: You're dealing with this disaster? No apology for them? Do 180 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this 181 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: was unfolding? Back home? 182 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: She's still walking, Adam Mayor. 183 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: Let me ask you just again, have you anything to 184 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: say to the citizens today as you returned? 185 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: One second, Madam Mayor, just a. 186 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: Few words for the citizens today as you return to 187 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: do you a catastrophe? 188 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Still walking? 189 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: You believe that not even fake empathy quite remarkable. But 190 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: you know, you know what gets your talking, what gets 191 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: you're talking is when ICE agents enforce the law. 192 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 5: Why would you do that? That is unbelievably disrespectful. It's 193 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 5: a provocative act. They're talking about disorder in Los Angeles 194 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 5: and they are the source of the disorder in Los 195 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 5: Angeles right now. This is just completely unacceptable. This is 196 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: a administration, this is a customs and border patrol that 197 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 5: has gone amok. This absolutely has to sup There was 198 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: no danger here, There was no need to detain anyone here, 199 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: and there was certainly no need to have a provocative 200 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: ass right here where the governor is having a threat company. 201 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: There you go, uh, some illegal aliens getting detained. You 202 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: can't shut her up. She's so passionate, so emotional, so angry. 203 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: Thousands of homes and businesses burned down, people die, nothing, 204 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing out of her, not even a few steps 205 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: to the microphone and saying this is terrible, this is 206 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: heart wrenching. 207 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. 208 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: Never apologized for being in Africa, never apolog apologizing for 209 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: neglecting and abandoning the city, never apologized for cutting millions 210 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: of dollars from the fire budget, for basically letting the 211 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: fire department go to rot. Never apologized, never explained. Still 212 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: don't understand why we don't have a fully funded fire department. 213 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: Still don't understand why we have so many, so few firefighters, 214 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: so many busted engines, so few mechanics, nothing. 215 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Now. 216 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: Meantime, Crowley was the one on the scene, and she 217 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,479 Speaker 2: had repeatedly told bass about, you know, the bad firestorm 218 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: potentially coming and how they didn't have enough resources, they 219 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: didn't have enough firefighters, and finally she just lost it 220 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: on Fox eleven. 221 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 6: Full transparency. This isn't a new problem for us. 222 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 7: Since the three years that I've been in the seat, 223 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 7: I have sounded the alarm to say we need more. 224 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 7: This is no longer sustainable. So with that, we are 225 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 7: now in a position to be properly funded. We are 226 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 7: screaming to be properly funded to make sure that our 227 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 7: firefighters can do their jobs so that we can serve 228 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: the community that we took an oath. 229 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 8: Did the City of Los Angeles fail you and your 230 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 8: department and our city. 231 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 7: It's my job to stand up as a chief and 232 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 7: exactly say, justifiably what the fire department needs to operate 233 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 7: to meet the demands of the community. 234 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 6: Did they fail you? 235 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 7: That is our job, and I tell you that's why 236 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 7: I'm here. So let's get us what we need so 237 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 7: firefighters can do their jobs. 238 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: Did they fail you. 239 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Kristin Crowley, Karen Bass failed all the people of 240 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades and the city. And that was Gigi Graciat 241 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: from Fox eleven. So after Crowley says that, Bass called 242 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Crowley in and according to Crowley's complaint, Bass said, I 243 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: don't know why you had to do that. Normally we're 244 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: on the same page. I don't know why you have 245 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: to say stuff to the media, because it's true she 246 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: cut the budget. It was eighteen million dollars short. It 247 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: was badly funded to begin with. Bass didn't care about 248 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: the fire department. She cares about her weird social justice 249 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: missions in life. I'm sure she'd love to go on 250 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: all day and night about the wonders of Fidel Castro 251 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: and Cuba. And she certainly was out of her mind 252 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: angry over illegal aliens getting detained. 253 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: But as far as the. 254 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Fire in the Palisades, nothing, And to this day she 255 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: says she says nothing, hoping it goes away because most 256 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: of the media doesn't cover this anymore, and they never 257 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: pursued her very much to begin with. All Right, when 258 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: we come back, Newsom trying to rip away choices from 259 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: independent and Republican voters when it comes to voting for 260 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: Congress people, just trying to eliminate the choices so that 261 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: only Democrats win in almost all the districts. You've probably 262 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: heard about this. We'll talk about it when we come back. 263 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: And oh, we have some babbling, idiotic politicians trying to 264 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: dodge direct questioning up in Sacramento. From Ashley Zavalla from KCRTV. 265 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: That's good stuff. 266 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: Next, you're listening to John co Wells on demand from 267 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty. 268 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock. 269 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 2: After four o'clock, John Cobolt's show on demand on the podcast. So, 270 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: in Texas, the Republican legislature is in the process of 271 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: redrawing the district lines or passing legislation that would lead 272 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: to that, and of course Gavin Newsom is on his 273 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: horse claiming that, well, if they do that, then we 274 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: are going to take retaliation here in California and try 275 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: to eliminate as many Republican Congress Congressional districts as possible 276 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: by redrawing the lines. 277 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: Now, he can't do that. 278 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: Because the constitutionist says that the mines have to be 279 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: drawn by an independent commission. So his idea is to 280 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: put on this November's ballot a referendum to redraw the districts, 281 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: to overturn the constitution, or at least those amendments, and 282 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: give the Democratic legislature to the power to redraw the 283 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: districts as they see fit, as Newsom sees fit, instead 284 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: of an independent panel, instead of outsiders. 285 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: Newsom wants control. 286 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: And he thinks if he whips up enough anti Trump 287 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: hysteria that he'll win, even though two thirds of the 288 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: state doesn't want this system touched. Two thirds of the 289 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: state as of last week, wants congressional districts to be 290 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: drawn by an outside panel, and the Republicans are now 291 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: filing a lawsuit against Newsom's redistricting plan because when you 292 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: produce new legislation, you're supposed to give the public thirty 293 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: days to review it. We're getting three, so that's a 294 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: violation too. But in case you know, the judges are 295 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: quite biased to the progressive governors that appointed him, like 296 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: Brown and newsom. So if the Supreme Court fails at 297 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: its job, then we're going to have to vote. Now, 298 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: the question is who specifically wrote these redistricting lines. Who's 299 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: drawn them? Nowson approves of them, but he didn't draw 300 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 2: them himself. It's pretty complicated. You have to draw a 301 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: zig zaggy border to try to reach to pull in 302 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: as many Democratic votes as possible while eliminating Republican votes 303 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: in any given district. 304 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Their goal is. 305 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: To get forty eight of the fifty two districts to 306 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: vote Democratic. In other words, no matter what the Republicans 307 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: put up as competition, no matter if there's any dependent candidates, 308 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: independent and Republican voters will almost never have a choice 309 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: in forty eight out of fifty two districts. It's going 310 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: to be drawn so the Democrats always win, which of 311 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: course is disgusting, but that's what he's doing. 312 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Now. 313 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: Nobody seems to want to admit who is drawing the maps. 314 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to play you this clip and you are 315 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: going to hear Sabrina Cervantes. She's the California State She's 316 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: the California State Senate Elections Committee Chairwoman Ashley Zavawa from 317 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: Channel three and Sacramento KCRA is grilling servantes about who 318 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: drew the maps and listen to servantes do the big dodge. 319 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 9: So the Rules Committee was responsible of putting the maps 320 00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 9: onto our public website, the Committee on Elections, and so 321 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 9: that has now been posted since Friday and then adjusted 322 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 9: on Monday per ab six. 323 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 10: So four okay, So. 324 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 11: Did this committee meet then to draw the lines? And 325 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 11: we were just trying to ascertain who exactly is responsible 326 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 11: for drawing these maps at this point. 327 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 9: So the criteria has remained the same from the CRC. 328 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 9: Seventy six percent of the districts remained the same, and 329 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 9: that is what Californians will see. There are many folks 330 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 9: stakeholders who have had an input on the map drawing process, 331 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 9: but ultimately this is up to the decision of California voters. 332 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 9: Whereas the CRC, which we respect. We want to make 333 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 9: sure that there's a nationwide Citizen's Redistricting Commission. But the 334 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 9: reality is we are in an emergency and this is 335 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 9: our emergency. 336 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: There's no emergency. Not one person outside of Gavin knew 337 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: some ask for this in state California. I have no 338 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: interest in what they do in Texas, not our business. 339 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: You're going to have tens of thousands of people who 340 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: are independent or Republican and they will have no chance 341 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: to have a Republican candidate in their district get elected 342 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: after this. What in God's name does that have to 343 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: do with Texas? That's their business. The Texas people don't 344 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: like it, they can have their own revolt. But why 345 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: why are thousands, tens of thousands of people getting punished 346 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: and they're going to have their choice denied? I thought 347 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: Democrats were pro choice. Apparently not when it comes to 348 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: picking Congress people, they're not. I know, we got a 349 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 2: lot of stuff here. Let's play a little more of this, 350 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: and this. 351 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 6: Is our emergency response. 352 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 9: We're giving Californians over two and a half months to 353 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 9: review these maps thoroughly and make a decision on whether 354 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 9: or not we move forward. 355 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: Right stop. 356 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: There's not going to be any reasoned, scholarly analytical process 357 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: going on here. It's just going to be people screaming 358 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: about Trump, trying to whip up the anti Trump passions. 359 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: That's going to be the extent of the campaign. Because 360 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: most people don't pay attention to any of this. Listen 361 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: to We're gonna play cup one here the assembly Woman 362 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: Alexandra Mercedo trying to get a straight answer out of 363 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: the Assembly Majority leader Cecilia Agilar Curry. Mesito is a Republican. 364 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: Agila Curry is a Democrat. Same question, who drew the 365 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: redistricting map. Nobody wants to say. 366 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 12: Who drew these maps? And I'm not saying general groups. 367 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 12: I'd like specific names who specifically drew these maps. 368 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 13: So these are the legislator's maps, the legislatures maps. 369 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 6: We did three important things. 370 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 13: We took the knowledge of public input from the independent Commission. 371 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 13: We keep them more cities whole than the commissions map, 372 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 13: and we are letting our voters see the maps and 373 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 13: make the ultimate decision. 374 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 12: Madam Majority of Lee, I understand, I've heard all that. 375 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 12: Who drew the maps? It's a very simple question. Names, 376 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 12: preferably Assembly Okay, I'm in the Assembly and I did 377 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 12: not draw these maps. 378 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 6: You're the leadership. 379 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 12: No, and I'm aware of that. But the same way 380 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 12: that in this bill it says that the Assembly Elections Committee, 381 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 12: not Chair Pellerin, not Assembly Member Salatja, not Assembly Member Bennett. 382 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 12: I am a part of that group, so by association, 383 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 12: I've been lumped in mister Bennett. So I'm asking who 384 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 12: drew these maps. The legislature drew the maps, who specifically 385 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 12: in the legislative. 386 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 6: Legislature drew the maps. 387 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 12: This is transparency that we don't get to know who 388 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 12: drew them. 389 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 6: The legislature drew the maps again over seventy six percent. 390 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm asking to her. 391 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 12: The maps are coming from her from the respond to that, 392 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 12: I am asking district commission, which is. 393 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 10: By okay, let's have one person speak at a time, please. 394 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: And my question has not been answered. 395 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 12: The information you've given, I've already. 396 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 10: Heard, I've got here. The question has been answered. You 397 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 10: just don't like the answer. 398 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: You said the legislature. I am the legislature. I am 399 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: part of the legislature. 400 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 12: Is that correct, Madam Chair, Because I'm not a Democratic, remember. 401 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 8: That, you can just try to answer good faith, yeah, 402 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 8: good good. But when we say the leg all kinds 403 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 8: of things happen in the legislature. We're not all involved 404 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 8: in every one, but they're all controlled by the legislative leadership. 405 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 8: The legislative leadership wrote these maps combination. We have a 406 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 8: leader right here, so she's part of the leadership. 407 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 13: The leadership team leadership teams, the team leadership team personally. 408 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 12: So then there she's in leadership. And she just said 409 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 12: she didn't. 410 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 6: Write the maps. 411 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 8: She had, she had some she she was part of 412 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 8: the leadership. 413 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 10: Okay, can we bring the debate back to the he's 414 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 10: a team. Okay, you know who the team is. 415 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: I think we've answered the. 416 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 10: Question has been answered. Do you have another question? And 417 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 10: I'm sorry, did you have a comment you want? 418 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 14: I just wanted to say, you can all verify this. 419 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 14: This week's edition of Capital Weekly podcast had Paul Mitchell 420 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 14: is their guests from Political Data. He spoke about the 421 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 14: fact that he foregone an Italian vacation with his family 422 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 14: in order to work on redrawing these maps. 423 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: Fantastic. 424 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 12: Why can we not have Paul Mitchell here then to testify? 425 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh, some some mystery do you have? 426 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 10: You have other questions about it? Let's go ahead and 427 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 10: move forward with those questions. 428 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so some mystery guy named Paul Mitchell while these 429 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: these uh, these people were lying by saying it's the leadership, 430 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: it's not the leadership. 431 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: These people are stupid, These assembly people. 432 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: They can't draw complex maps to account for all the 433 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: variables so that they can rig the election. 434 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Got another one on to play when we come back. 435 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six. 436 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: So they're fighting in Sacramento because the Democrats found some 437 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: strange data guru, I guess his name was finally given up, 438 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: named Paul Mitchell, and he's the guy drawing these congressional 439 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: districts so that Republicans can't get elected for Congress in 440 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: California anymore. This plan works, it'll be forty eight out 441 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: of the fifty two districts. And we're the media, well 442 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: the media, one woman Ashley Zavala from CACRTV is trying 443 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: to find out who it is, and so are a 444 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: number of California Assembly people, and the Democrats are lying 445 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: and covering up. And then finally somebody said, it's a 446 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: guy named Paul Mitchell who's with some data company apparently 447 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: went on vacation in Italy to drop the lines to 448 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: screw tens of thousands of people out of a choice 449 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: for who they want as Congress as a congressman. Now 450 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: here's Ashley's vollay going after another California Assembly Elections chair. 451 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: This is named Gail Pellerin again, same question who drew 452 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: the redistricting maps? And listen to pellerin do his stance. 453 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 11: Who exactly is responsible for the maps? Who do we 454 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 11: tell California voters drew these? 455 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 9: Well? 456 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 10: So the maps have been posted on our website since 457 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 10: eight o'clock yesterday. The lines are very clear where people 458 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 10: who can go on and observe and see what we're 459 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 10: doing their adjustments. Many counties and many districts are not 460 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 10: getting touched at all. 461 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 11: So and I'm sure, I'm sorry. My question is who 462 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 11: is responsible for the maps? Specifically, who do we let 463 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 11: California voters know are responsible for the maps that they 464 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 11: are being presented with? 465 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it was a collaboration. 466 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean with several people involved who specifically. 467 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 10: I don't have the full list right here with me, 468 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 10: but we could certainly get that too. But these maps 469 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 10: are transparent, they're there for going. 470 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 11: But who the names of the people the organization? I mean, 471 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 11: Governor Gavin knew some promise that no special interests or 472 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 11: this would be this would be transparent, this would not 473 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 11: be done in a back room. So we're trying to 474 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 11: ascertain in the very short amount of time that you 475 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 11: have to deliberate this, who exactly are the maps responsible 476 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 11: for happening. 477 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 10: Very quickly, and the folks that were drawing the maps 478 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 10: went back to the Independent Registricting Commission's testimony and what 479 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 10: they heard during their time when they were deliberating this, 480 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 10: and they themselves ran out of time to do the 481 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 10: work that they needed to do. And so we're basing 482 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 10: these on the Voting Rights Act, and we're looking at 483 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 10: really bringing the voters into this process. And that's why 484 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 10: we're going to an election on November fourth, because at 485 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 10: the end of shape, the voter's voice is what matters. 486 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 11: And we're asking because I mean, we're asking because voters 487 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 11: back in two thousand and eight and twenty ten took 488 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 11: the power away from politicians to draw maps because they 489 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 11: did not like that it was an incumbent protection plan. 490 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 11: So we just need to know, I mean, that's why 491 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 11: we're asking. 492 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 10: These are definitely unusual times. We are no longer governing 493 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 10: in a democracy. We're governing in an authoritarian government. We 494 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 10: are seeing things that we care so deeply about in California. 495 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 10: We have education, food for children, our immigrant community, our 496 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 10: LGBT community, they are getting decimated by this administration. This 497 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 10: is an all out assault on California's democracy and the 498 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 10: rights and values. So we have to move quickly. But 499 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 10: we are bringing the voters on to this process. We're 500 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 10: letting them know the maps have been posted on the website. 501 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 10: We have this election on November fourth, and at the 502 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 10: end of the day, the voters will decide what is 503 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 10: important to them and whether they want to adjust these 504 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 10: maps to give California the voice it needs in Congress. 505 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 11: Charon, and you said whether or not stay lawnmmners were 506 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 11: state lawmakers involved in drawing the maps to any state 507 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 11: lawmakers at all, not to my knowledge, So then who 508 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 11: adjusted them last night at eight pm? 509 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 10: As my understanding that they were by eight am, they 510 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 10: were out. There is a collaboration, but we can get 511 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 10: to the people that actually did that work. 512 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 11: So then why does the legislation say the detailed maps 513 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 11: are prepared by the Assembly and state Senate elections committees. 514 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 10: So the reality is that it was a collaboration and 515 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 10: we can get through those specifics. But I think what's 516 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 10: most important is the maps are out there for people 517 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 10: to see, to evaluate to make a judgment on the 518 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 10: launch line. 519 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that. 520 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 6: When you consume something. 521 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 11: When you consume something, don't you want to know who 522 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 11: makes it? When you are presented with something, don't you 523 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 11: want to know where it's coming from? Don't voters deserve 524 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 11: to know. 525 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 10: A restaurant, I don't need to meet the chef. I 526 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 10: just enjoy the food. 527 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't need to meet the chef if you're paying 528 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: attention closely, and I know it's hard. Through the three 529 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: clips we played, they would give different answers to the 530 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: same question. First it was, well, it was the legislators. 531 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: Then well it wasn't the legislators, and they contradicted themselves 532 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: because they were just just scrambling around trying to find 533 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: a way to get Ashley Zavalla to shut up, to 534 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: stop asking. They didn't want to admit it. Legislators didn't 535 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: do this. They're not smart enough to do this. It's 536 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 2: this uh data guru named Paul Mitchell, and they run 537 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: through computers and they come up with what's the way 538 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: to maximize Democrat votes so that nearly one hundred percent 539 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: of the districts ended with a Democrat candidate winning. That's 540 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 2: what it was. They probably used AI, some advanced analysis technology. Well, 541 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: you know, it was the legislature. Well no, no, it 542 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: wasn't the legislature. And then they say, well, we're unprecedented 543 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: times democracy is being threatened. So if democracy is being threatened, 544 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: you're taking away the choice from tens of thousands, hundreds 545 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: of thousands of voters by reinforcing one party rule in 546 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: California that only Democrats can win congressional steats over ninety 547 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: percent of the time. That's what they're doing. And they 548 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: figure if they talk fast and they contradict themselves and 549 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: just blather and babble, well. 550 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: You're not gonna notice. 551 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: All Right, we got Briginia Diegristina live in the KFI 552 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: twenty four hour newsroom. 553 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 554 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI Am 555 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 556 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.