Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz,
Speaker 1: were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau
Speaker 1: Field West. I know I ended yesterday's show by saying
Speaker 1: we were going to discuss wild Card weekend and all
Speaker 1: four of the games coming up here, and we will
Speaker 1: certainly do that, but a couple of pieces of Packers
Speaker 1: got news to take care of first, and we'll begin
Speaker 1: with a hearty congratulations to Packers veteran left tackle David Baktari, who,
Speaker 1: for the fourth year in a row, was named to
Speaker 1: the Associated Press All Pro Team. He gets a second
Speaker 1: team honor, this time the third time in the four
Speaker 1: years he's been a second team selection. He was a
Speaker 1: first team selection a year ago, and as we talked
Speaker 1: about on yesterday's show, early in the season, some uncharacteristic
Speaker 1: performances from him, but second half of the year in particular,
Speaker 1: he has been the rock solid left tackle, blindside protector
Speaker 1: as well as a heck of a run blocker. This year.
Speaker 1: I think too that Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: everybody associated with that offense has come to count on well.
Speaker 1: I think when you actually break it down and when
Speaker 1: this thing is all said and done, you're gonna remember
Speaker 1: David Bacteria not only for being one of the best
Speaker 1: linemen in Packer's history, but also being one of the
Speaker 1: most athletic too. And I think over the last two
Speaker 1: three seasons he's been able to show more and more
Speaker 1: of that and get comfortable in those different aspects of
Speaker 1: the game. So congratulations to him. Ronnie Stanley had a
Speaker 1: fantastic year for Baltimore. He was the first team winner,
Speaker 1: and then box Tr Kiman on the second team. You
Speaker 1: can't say enough about David what he played through um
Speaker 1: second consecutive year He's played in all sixteen games, was
Speaker 1: only one snap behind Billy Turner for the most offensive
Speaker 1: snaps played in two thousand nineteen, the fifth time and
Speaker 1: seven years that he played in every game for Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Has been an important piece of this offense and and
Speaker 1: obviously very valued member that locker room. And the first
Speaker 1: time for him that the Pro Bowl and the All
Speaker 1: Pro recognition they kind of match up. Finally things are
Speaker 1: things are finally straightening out here for box Tr When
Speaker 1: it comes to the awards, and honor. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: he was able to get in in sixteen as a
Speaker 1: first alter his first year as All Pro. But last
Speaker 1: year he gets first team All Pro. Yeah. Not a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowler is what it is. But that's the way
Speaker 1: the process works. Unfortunately for David obviously getting the accolades
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah. Well, another big piece of news that
Speaker 1: we found out late in the day on Thursday. And
Speaker 1: I know you're very happy about this. I'm happy about
Speaker 1: it as well, but I know you have a special
Speaker 1: place in your heart for this one. What I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: of course, is that former Packers safety Leroy Butler, for
Speaker 1: the first time, has advanced to the finalist stage. After
Speaker 1: three cracks at these in the semifinalist arena, so to speak,
Speaker 1: he is now finally advanced to the finalist stage for
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He is one of
Speaker 1: the fifteen Modern era finalists that will be whittled down
Speaker 1: to a maximum sized class of five when the selection
Speaker 1: committee meets over Super Bowl weekend. And uh, this is
Speaker 1: this is just fantastic. The process is finally starting to
Speaker 1: work in Butler's favor and this is good for him.
Speaker 1: Who knows if it will be this year, any other
Speaker 1: year or whatever. But he's gotten to the next step
Speaker 1: and hopefully at some point here he will take that
Speaker 1: final step and get into Canna. Well, you can go
Speaker 1: back and we we we talked about it. I obviously
Speaker 1: was very passionate, emotional about it. And again I wasn't
Speaker 1: sitting here trying to push this down to people's throats,
Speaker 1: like Leroy Butler needs to be in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame right now. This is a travesty, this is injustice
Speaker 1: and well, I mean I certainly believe he is will
Speaker 1: is capable worthy of the honor. Yeah, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to see him in this final fifteen because for people
Speaker 1: at home that don't know how this works, all this
Speaker 1: balloting up to this point is just done amongst the
Speaker 1: voters wherever they are. Yeah, it's checking out, checking off boxes,
Speaker 1: making your picks, and sending him in. Yeah. So it
Speaker 1: isn't until this final fifteen where these guys will actually
Speaker 1: get to end. Ladies, excuse me, we'll all get together
Speaker 1: and debate present cases for why these guys should be
Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Fourteen years now
Speaker 1: into his eligibility, Leroy Butler has never had that opportunity
Speaker 1: to have Pete Doherty or Cliff Crystal, whoever it is,
Speaker 1: kind of state his case for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's a really important message to
Speaker 1: hear because if you hear it, I think people are
Speaker 1: gonna understand what this guy meant to Green Bay, what
Speaker 1: he meant to Friz Shermer's defense, and how he was
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things before those things were really cool,
Speaker 1: when when people still viewed the safety and more of
Speaker 1: the archaic sense of well, they're just not good enough
Speaker 1: to be cornerbacks. No, it's bigger than that, and if
Speaker 1: you know why Leroy Butler ended up going to safety
Speaker 1: and the decisions that played into that, you would understand.
Speaker 1: So I just I'm really happy that he gets this
Speaker 1: opportunity now for Pete Doherty to stand in front of
Speaker 1: the room the day before the Super Bowl and state, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is why this guy is year and this is
Speaker 1: why he deserves to be in the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, and I hope he gets in. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, just to be able to have that conversation
Speaker 1: is very important. Yeah, I agree. I think for those
Speaker 1: who have followed have followed the story and are obviously
Speaker 1: hoping for Butler to get in. Regardless of what happens
Speaker 1: on Super Bowl weekend. You know, don't be discouraged if
Speaker 1: he doesn't make it, because what he did now this
Speaker 1: year getting to the finalist stage is a is a
Speaker 1: huge step in the right direction because just as an example,
Speaker 1: another safety who's a finalist, John Lynch, this is his
Speaker 1: seventh time as a finalist and he has yet to
Speaker 1: get in. I'm not saying that Butler is going to
Speaker 1: be a finalist that many times. Where it's going to
Speaker 1: take that long, I really don't know. But just if
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get in this first time being a finalist,
Speaker 1: don't think like, oh, all hope is lost. It's never
Speaker 1: going to happen. He's He's taken another step in this
Speaker 1: process that is very important. And I'll just say, well,
Speaker 1: you and I were talking about it yesterday when we
Speaker 1: got the news. There are four safeties now that are
Speaker 1: finalists in this group of fifteen. John Lynch, Steve Atwater,
Speaker 1: Troy Paula Malo is a first ballot. This is his
Speaker 1: first year to be eligible for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He's a finalist as well as Butler, So the fact
Speaker 1: that there are four safeties out of the fifteen that
Speaker 1: probably doesn't bode well necessarily for Butler's chances this year.
Speaker 1: And we're even talking also when you look at next year,
Speaker 1: a few first ballot guys across the league, Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson, Calvin Johnson are all going to be eligible
Speaker 1: for the first time in one. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough modern era class of five to crack if all
Speaker 1: three of those guys get in on the first ballot.
Speaker 1: But the fact that Butler has gotten to this stage
Speaker 1: now it bodes well for these last Essentially he's got
Speaker 1: about a decade now where he'll still be in this
Speaker 1: modern day process before he would have to resort to
Speaker 1: the Senior Committee. And the fact that he's got this
Speaker 1: ten years now where he's made finalist for the first
Speaker 1: time is is a really good size. Yeah. And for
Speaker 1: people that don't really know what this means at home,
Speaker 1: you get twenty five years after the time in which
Speaker 1: you've played to have a window to be a modern
Speaker 1: era candidate, So years from when you're eligible five years
Speaker 1: which is five years retirement. Yeah, So there I am
Speaker 1: making things even making muddy water hard. It is hard
Speaker 1: to keep track of all the numbers though. But this
Speaker 1: is why it's kind of important as it relates to Butler,
Speaker 1: because this is year fourteen for him. He has eleven
Speaker 1: more years to get in as a modern era finalists.
Speaker 1: So one goes back to a conversation I've had with
Speaker 1: him several times. He knows he feels like he'll get
Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame at some point.
Speaker 1: The question was whether it can be in that twenty
Speaker 1: five year window, or if it would be as a
Speaker 1: senior nominee down the line. This, at least in my mind,
Speaker 1: based on the precedence that the Pro Football Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame voters typically have um this at least I think
Speaker 1: puts him in that in this next eleven years he
Speaker 1: could he could really make it. I think he could too,
Speaker 1: because I think this is this is fantastic news that
Speaker 1: he's that he's gotten this far, and as I say,
Speaker 1: he's got that a whole decade to continue in this
Speaker 1: modern error process to get a shot, because as you said,
Speaker 1: next year, there's gonna be a lot of first ballot
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers. How many exactly will find that out then,
Speaker 1: but that will eat into the five this year isn't
Speaker 1: like that. I think you're going to see a couple
Speaker 1: of these guys that have been in the log jam
Speaker 1: get that opportunity to slide through, and every year is
Speaker 1: going to be different. So for le Roy to at
Speaker 1: least be in that fifteen now it opens up that window.
Speaker 1: I think it makes his visibility a lot better. And again,
Speaker 1: if he's on that list once, it makes it a
Speaker 1: lot more likely that he makes it again. He went
Speaker 1: ten years without being a semifinalist. Once he made semifinals,
Speaker 1: he went three years without being a finalist, and now
Speaker 1: he is being able to crack that top fifteen. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a ladder, it's a process, and fortunately for
Speaker 1: le Roy, it seems like he's one step closer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And to his credit, he's he's showed plenty of confidence,
Speaker 1: plenty of patients. He he really believes his day is coming.
Speaker 1: And I think that's fantastic that he's able to take
Speaker 1: that approach and that attitude to something that is that
Speaker 1: is so important and really the pinnacle of recogniztion and
Speaker 1: of your career. Yeah, and he's a pitting me a class.
Speaker 1: Talking to NFL Network on Thursday night after they interviewed
Speaker 1: him when this was announced, and he said he's up
Speaker 1: against three other safeties, and he said, they're not only
Speaker 1: amazing players, they're amazing people. I mean, Steve Atwater, you
Speaker 1: can talk to anybody in Denver. I mean, he's held
Speaker 1: in such highest steam out there. Certainly John Lynch, you
Speaker 1: know his character. And Troy Paulamalo, who's I think one
Speaker 1: of the favorites for this year's class. A lot of
Speaker 1: Plamalo being a defensive Player of the Year in the
Speaker 1: year that Clay Matthews was runner up when those two teams,
Speaker 1: Packers and Steelers were playing in the Super Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there is a competition there, but there's also a
Speaker 1: mutual respect. And you know, as I said the last
Speaker 1: time we had this debate on the show, Mike, I
Speaker 1: hope they all get in. I hope Atwater and I
Speaker 1: do too. I just wanted Butler to be seen on
Speaker 1: an equal playing field with them, and this year I
Speaker 1: feel like he's getting that chance. Yeah, I think so. Alright, quickly, we'
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Speaker 1: Card weekend is upon us. The two a f C
Speaker 1: games are Saturday, the two NFC games are Sunday. Real quickly,
Speaker 1: just to outline again for Packers fans. If the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints beat the Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans will be
Speaker 1: coming to lambeau Field. If the Minnesota Vikings knock off
Speaker 1: the Saints down in the Superdome, the Packers will get
Speaker 1: the winner of the Seahawks Eagles game. But starting with Saturday,
Speaker 1: the two a f C games, you have Buffalo traveling
Speaker 1: to Houston and Tennessee traveling to Foxborough to take on
Speaker 1: the Patriots. What are your initial thoughts here on these
Speaker 1: first two a f C playoff games. My initial thoughts is,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be busy on Saturday afternoon. It's my
Speaker 1: wife's birthday, So I don't know if I'm actually going
Speaker 1: to be a birthday CA. Yeah, I love you. UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm actually gonna be able to
Speaker 1: watch that one. Um, but that second one is actually
Speaker 1: my that's my favorite one of this weekend. I I'm
Speaker 1: really interested to see how Tennessee looks in this. You've
Speaker 1: had to read about it and in box this week
Speaker 1: when you've been editing me. I just think the way
Speaker 1: that Tannehill has performed this year, how consistent he's been.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is an absolute beast, and I really since
Speaker 1: the very beginning of this season, I like Mike Vrabel's
Speaker 1: defensive scheme a lot. I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: best in the NFL right now. And we've we've seen
Speaker 1: we've seen these coaches from the Belichick tree at certain
Speaker 1: times get the best of Bill Belichick's Patriots. Matt Patricia's Lions.
Speaker 1: Did it, Brian Florence did it last week? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean so that that's that's another intriguing thing here.
Speaker 1: But I am totally with you on Derrick Henry because
Speaker 1: I looked this up and put this in inbox this morning.
Speaker 1: For all of the top high rankings that the Patriots
Speaker 1: defense has, and that unit has a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: there's one that sticks out that's not in the top ten,
Speaker 1: and it's average yards per carry allowed to opposing running games.
Speaker 1: They're like fourteenth, which isn't bad, but all of their
Speaker 1: other defensive rankings their first in this and fifth. I
Speaker 1: think they're sixth and total rushing yards allowed, but that
Speaker 1: fourteen in yards per carry. It just to me, it
Speaker 1: seems if if Tennessee can stay in this game, because
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they've they put up they put up points,
Speaker 1: they've had their share of blowout wins. They get teams
Speaker 1: that aren't going to run the ball that much. So
Speaker 1: but if Tennessee can stay in this game and get
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry going, you know, and make it, make it
Speaker 1: a four quarter game where they get to feed Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry for four quarters, I think Tennessee has a great
Speaker 1: chance to to knock off the Patriots on the road here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the Patriots. This is why it's a compelling
Speaker 1: matchup for me, is the Patriots. This is a gut
Speaker 1: check for them. That is a demoralizing loss. I mean,
Speaker 1: you and I were talking earlier this week about the
Speaker 1: difference between the Packers playing Detroit down to the wire
Speaker 1: and what happened with New England ultimately losing that game.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are playing this week. The Packers are resting themselves.
Speaker 1: So this is this is a difficult situation to be in,
Speaker 1: right now and seeing how Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: the rest of that team rebounds from it. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting because if you look at the statistics since
Speaker 1: last year when Matt Lafleur's offensive coordinator turned the keys
Speaker 1: to the backfield over to Derrick Henry, the production has
Speaker 1: been there for this offense, and now that Tannehill is
Speaker 1: the one that's actually behind center, it's been a big difference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think this is the year that Buffalo chalks
Speaker 1: up a playoff victory? They've had, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of playoff appearances here off and on. Do you think
Speaker 1: they think they go into Houston and get and get
Speaker 1: the W? Well, this is the other side of it too, right,
Speaker 1: I Mean the big thing with Houston has been they've
Speaker 1: they've been able to make these playoff runs, but they
Speaker 1: haven't been able to go very far. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot on the line for both of these teams. I
Speaker 1: really like Josh Allen. I'm a big fan of his.
Speaker 1: I think the way that he plays the game, Buffalo
Speaker 1: understands his strengths and they play to that. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, with the emergence this year with that backfield
Speaker 1: and and being able to mix things up with Singletary
Speaker 1: a little bit. I see him as kind of a
Speaker 1: building block for the future. I do like it. The
Speaker 1: question is, though, is which Texans team are you gonna
Speaker 1: get J. J. Watt coming off of injured reserve and
Speaker 1: all of that, you know, to to help out with
Speaker 1: their defense. And and I I really I saw Buffalo
Speaker 1: essentially two games this year, the Thanksgiving game that they
Speaker 1: had at Dallas and then that Sunday night game they
Speaker 1: had at Pittsburgh. I thought they were really for row
Speaker 1: for you know, road contest. I thought they were really
Speaker 1: really impressive and pulling out both of those victories. So
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be They're not gonna shy away from
Speaker 1: being on the road in a noisy place and all
Speaker 1: that in Houston. Yeah, And like I said, I would
Speaker 1: watch it if I could. I'm just gonna be a
Speaker 1: little busy. But I mean, you know, Micah Hyde, the
Speaker 1: defensive players that they have there. It's a good defense
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott has as well, and seeing who pulls
Speaker 1: through it, that's gonna be interesting to watch, all right,
Speaker 1: Sunday Vikings at Saints and then Seahawks at Eagles. Obviously,
Speaker 1: these are the games that will determine Green Bay's opponent.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Minnesota going into the Super
Speaker 1: an interesting playoff rivalry Here we go back to the
Speaker 1: two thousand nine NFC title game at the Superdome and
Speaker 1: then that divisional round game a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: at US Bank Stadium. UM one going to over time,
Speaker 1: the other one coming down to the miracle play on
Speaker 1: the on the last play of the fourth quarter. So
Speaker 1: these two teams meet again in January. Here we go.
Speaker 1: It's like honorary division rivals almost the way that this
Speaker 1: has worked out with those two. The angle I love
Speaker 1: about this game is that Mike Zimmer said it earlier
Speaker 1: this week. Everybody's just giving the Vikings no chance to
Speaker 1: win this game. Yeah, the narrative is the same. There's
Speaker 1: no there's no way they can go into New Orleans
Speaker 1: and beat the Saints. But teams have this year, and
Speaker 1: some pretty average teams have done it. So and Minnesota
Speaker 1: is a team that they rested their guys, they took
Speaker 1: Week seventeen as a bye week. They're trying to get healthy,
Speaker 1: obviously with some key guys Dalvin Cook, Eric Kendricks, all
Speaker 1: of that. UM, I think This is going to be
Speaker 1: a really really interesting football game. Yeah, And I just
Speaker 1: the one chance I think Minnesota really has in this
Speaker 1: thing is if their defense plays well, they limit the
Speaker 1: underneath passing game and and don't allow Elvin Kamar to
Speaker 1: get going early. And then defensively, you know, all right,
Speaker 1: say offensively on their set of things, how does Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins look against the Saints defense? Because you know, I
Speaker 1: think Delvin Cook is good enough even against a good
Speaker 1: run front, He's going to be able to get his yards.
Speaker 1: What do they do off of that? Can they get
Speaker 1: the play action going? Can they do that inside the
Speaker 1: super Dome? There's a lot to like about that matchup. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I think about the Minnesota defense, we saw them
Speaker 1: get worn down in the second half against the Packers
Speaker 1: in that Monday night game in Week sixteen. They do
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys on that defense who have
Speaker 1: been around a while. They're not young players anymore. But
Speaker 1: they were able to kind of take the week off
Speaker 1: in Week seventeen, you know, rest up, recharge. I think
Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense will, Uh, they're counting on looking like the
Speaker 1: defense they planned on being all along Seattle at Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: This is actually a regular season rematch Seattle one at
Speaker 1: Lincoln Financial Field earlier this season. I think both teams
Speaker 1: in a way, kind of in a different place right now,
Speaker 1: though certainly the Eagles are with the way they finished
Speaker 1: the regular season knocking off the Cowboys than getting the
Speaker 1: Week seventeen victory they needed to it into the postseason,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles at nine and seven, they're that team.
Speaker 1: We're saying, hey, it is a brand new slate. Here
Speaker 1: we go. Let's see if we can make another run
Speaker 1: like they did a couple of years ago. And it
Speaker 1: has to be on Russell Russell Wilson's shoulders. It really does.
Speaker 1: Watching all of that San Francisco game and seeing what
Speaker 1: they're dealing with right now in their backfield, I think
Speaker 1: Homer has a little bit explosiveness that can help them. Certainly,
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch showed he still had some hops on the
Speaker 1: goal line. But let's be honest, Mike, this is going
Speaker 1: to be up to Russell Wilson, a guy this team,
Speaker 1: as long as they can go with the injuries that
Speaker 1: they've had a weather and how this season has played
Speaker 1: out for them, it has to be him. He has
Speaker 1: to play well for them to go far in this postseason.
Speaker 1: As far as the Eagles are concerned, it's funny. I
Speaker 1: think Carson Wentz is about as underrated as you can
Speaker 1: get for a guy that was a top pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just feel like he doesn't quite get the respect
Speaker 1: he deserves for how he's really pulled Philadelphia through this season.
Speaker 1: And and this is interesting because he wasn't a part
Speaker 1: of the playoff run from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Obviously this is all so this is this is Carson
Speaker 1: went introducing himself to the playoff world, so to speak.
Speaker 1: And it's and that, like I said, with Wilson having
Speaker 1: a kind of guide Seattle through the injuries they've had
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I mean, the Eagles offense has had as
Speaker 1: bad a luck as any team in the NFL this season,
Speaker 1: specifically at the receiver position. Jordan Howard sounds like he's
Speaker 1: getting healthy again. Thought could be potentially in the cards
Speaker 1: for them. I thought before his injury he was playing
Speaker 1: really well, was getting into a groove, had sort of
Speaker 1: solidified himself as the number one back. Certainly Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: is there as well. It's gonna be a good matchup
Speaker 1: because I think it's gonna be tough for both of
Speaker 1: these teams to mount a big run because of just
Speaker 1: how banged up they've been. But I think they both
Speaker 1: showed a lot of grit these last weeks of the
Speaker 1: season to put themselves in a position right now to
Speaker 1: have this opportunity. Well, I will be sitting there at
Speaker 1: my house on Sunday with my computer open, because if
Speaker 1: New Orleans wins, I'll be quickly writing something to put
Speaker 1: up on our site that the Saints are coming to
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. And if the Vikings win, then I'll be
Speaker 1: ready for when the Seahawks Eagles game ends to get
Speaker 1: that story up on the website as to h the
Speaker 1: Packers next opponent it but it should be a fun
Speaker 1: weekend of football. Hey, what's up with the a f
Speaker 1: C on Saturday and NFC on Sunday? People have been
Speaker 1: asking me about that. Yeah, I I answered. I answered
Speaker 1: a question. I answered a question in inbox about this.
Speaker 1: I think it started. I think it kind of started
Speaker 1: with the fact that because the league knew the NFC
Speaker 1: West loser from that Sunday night game in week seventeen
Speaker 1: was going to have to travel cross country essentially to Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: they gave Philadelphia the late Sunday afternoon slot. They gave
Speaker 1: him the latest possible slot to be fair to those
Speaker 1: two NFC West teams that got flexed into that Sunday
Speaker 1: night game. So from you know, but then from there,
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it just has to do with with aiming for the
Speaker 1: ratings and whatnot, and so they wanted the way the
Speaker 1: way things fell with the Saints, the Saints not getting
Speaker 1: the first round by and playing in the opening round
Speaker 1: that then they wanted the Patriots in the Saturday night
Speaker 1: slot for for the ratings and whatnot. I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that's just kind of how it happened, but
Speaker 1: it is. It is a little odd to do to
Speaker 1: have the conferences on separate days instead of kind of
Speaker 1: the mix and match deal. Keep it fun, Yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: be a fun weekend, ye all right. Well, with that,
Speaker 1: we will call it a wrap on this edition of
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