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You know the reason why 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: we personally, you know, invested our time, energy resources into Ghana. 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: We just felt Gona had a few things that was 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: in his favor. A it's safe, right, that's important. So 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: from a security standpoint, you want to go to a 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: country that you actually feel safe. And this is just 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: anywhere in the world, right, So we've been all over 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: the map and you know, you kind of know when 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: you're in dangerous areas and you kind of know when 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: you're in the area that's you know, you. 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: Feel comfortable in. 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: So ghan is a safe country and it has stable 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: government and that's important too. Unfortunately, especially in Africa, you know, 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: government has been a major issue and that's for a 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: variety of different reasons. But be'st neither here nor there. 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: But you know, gan is one of these countries that 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: has you know, transitions of power. Right, they don't have 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: like military coups happening in every three years, so that's important. 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: Like, you know, you invest. 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: Somewhere, you want you want to know that there's that 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: at least you know that there's never gonna be a 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: perfect government, but at least there's no you know, simple 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: unrest that happens every other week. Right, that's something that 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: is not sustainable for investment, especially for foreign investment, because 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: you don't know what's going on. 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: So that works in his favor. 62 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: But you like talk about your transition as far as 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: you know, an American going to Ghana even though you're 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: from Ghana originally, but like because you know, the healthcare 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: system all of that kind of just walking through your 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: personal experiences. 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, my experience. 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: It's interesting because I sometimes tell people you get you 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: get the culture shocked twice, right, Because I was born 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: in the US and then I moved to Ghana when 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: I was seven, Right, there was an adjustment. Even though 72 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: I was Guinean by blood, there was an adjustment and 73 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: just being American and now trying to plug into the 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: to the Guinean kind of school system. And then I 75 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: came back to the US for college, there was an adjustment. 76 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: And then going back to Ghana. You don't realize like 77 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: how much you kind of evolved doing your formative years. 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: But it was an adjustment to start out, but tremendous 79 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: amount of opportunity because you know kameit touched on the 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: business environment. I actually moved back to Ghana in twenty 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 4: nineteen to join a small holding company and at the time, 82 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: like you know, we. 83 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: Had three restaurants in our portfolio. 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: Right fast forward to today, you know, five five six 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: years later, we have upwards of one hundred and fifty 86 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: where one of the largest franchisees for Pinkberry across the world. 87 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: Right, and this is just in Ghana. 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: And so very quickly I was able to kind of 89 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 4: adjust to the dynamics of working and living in Ghana 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: because although our institutions are nascent processes work, if you 91 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: want to set up a company, there's a structure that 92 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: you can follow to be able to do that, people 93 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: to support and assist you all across the board. 94 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: And then you know, from quality of. 95 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: Life life standpoint, like quality of life in Ghana is 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: really high, especially if you're you know, someone of middle 97 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: income upper upper middle class, Like there's certain things you 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: can have access to. You have, you know, additional support, 99 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: whether it's you know, nanny's at home to kind of. 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: Support with upkeep. The healthcare infrastructure is really strong. 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: We invest the significant amounts of money the government private 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: sector into enhancing our healthcare systems. 103 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: When you look at Ghana from kind. 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 4: Of a social perspective, like everyone talks about dirty December 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: and like the year we go to party, but the 106 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: social scene extends beyond that, right there's movie theaters and 107 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: golf courses and pickleball and all these nice kind of 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: restaurants that you can partake in. And then on the 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: cultural side, you know, there's a whole bunch of natural 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: kind of whether you want to go on hikes, or 111 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: you want to go to the the Cacum forests, or 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 4: you want to go to the Cape Coast castles, or 113 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: you want to partake in in like a cultural dance trope. 114 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: There's just so much richness to Ghana from a social 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: standpoint that even goes beyond just you know, the parties 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: that a lot of people will see on Instagram. And 117 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 4: so for me, it was like that range just allowed 118 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 4: me to kind of plug back in and really start 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: to assimilate again. And I think you know, when people 120 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: are thinking about Ghana as a place, can I live here? 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Right? 122 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: Like everything from our healthcare to education system, Like right now, 123 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: from a tech standpoint, you got a lot of people 124 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: working remotely out in Ghana because quality of internet is there, right. 125 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: We have five G Internet in Ghana too. 126 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: There's Elon Musk Starlink that you can plug in too, 127 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: just to make sure you have access to your Zoom 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 4: meetings and Microsoft teams. 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: And so I think it's one of the things where. 130 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: Like people feel like Africa can be distant in daunting, 131 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: but stay connected to folks who've been there. Come as 132 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: a tourist first, and you'll see that it's it's a 133 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: high quality of life that you can easily assimilate well to. 134 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: We talk about talk about your your specific journey as 135 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: far as, like you said, you're one of the biggest franchise, 136 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: you had one of the biggest you know. 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: Food change in Ghana and the whole probably continent. 138 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: So talk about like just talk about that as far 139 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: as your entrepreneurial journey going there, Like what was the 140 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: steps that you took to get up and run in 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: like kind. 142 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: Of walking through that. Yeah. 143 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: So my thought process was I've always known that I 144 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: was an entrepreneur at heart, you know. 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: I was I was a kid in middle school in 146 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: high school who you know, would sell back in Ghana. 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: I would buy all. 148 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: These us for roll ups, rice, Chrispy Trees, all these 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: snacks and sell it to my classmates. 150 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: So I've always had that entrepreneurial spirit. 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 4: And so when I was started to think about going 152 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: back to Ghana, you know, my preference was to do 153 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: it through what's called entrepreneurship through acquisition. So I found 154 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: a partner who had set up kind of a food business. 155 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: They only had three locations at the time, and just 156 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: started working together as partners and we said, hey, we 157 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: want to stay opportunistic, right, and our thesis was literally 158 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: gone as a very nascent market with a lot of opportunity. 159 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: Sixty percent of our population is under the age of 160 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: twenty five and the middle class is growing at an 161 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: unprecedented rate, and so we knew people will always need food. 162 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: So we started off in food service and really trying 163 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: to scale kind of what is you know, quick service 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: fast casual restaurants, And our thesis was, hey, we would 165 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: get some of these Western brands and learn their processes 166 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: and then implement it to scale up some of our 167 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: local brands. And so now we have both, Right, we 168 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: have the franchise for Burger King and Pinkberry, but we 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: also have local brands and Domain Foods and Chickenman and 170 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: selectively are are the largest restaurant operator in Ghana. But 171 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: we've continued to stay opportunistic and now have a presence 172 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: in actually fourteen different African countries covering food service. We 173 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: also do financial services where you provide kind of small 174 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: business financing for people at the bottom of the pyramid. 175 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: We have a gaming platform that effectively provides software for 176 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,479 Speaker 4: media houses to run raffles. So we actually partnered with 177 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: Alvin and Kwame to run one of our raffles kind 178 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: of through their media house, and then and then real estate, 179 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 4: so both commercial and residential, and so partner with Alvin 180 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 4: and Kwame on Sambra to do to do on the 181 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: residential side and then on the commercial side. We also 182 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 4: have a bunch of properties in Tanzania, and so it's 183 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 4: been interesting to kind of first come to Ghana but 184 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: realize that the opportunity for growth extends beyond just Ghana 185 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: and taking that risk going. 186 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: To some of these other different markets, so across. 187 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: West Africa, East Africa, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, we're in Malawi, Mozambique, 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: Sierra Leone, we're working on Senego and Guinea. 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