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Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Welcome into another episode of the Two

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Speaker 1: Minute Drill podcast, presented by Nerd Walin play Smart, finance Harder.

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Speaker 1: I'm jj Stankowitz, joined again every Friday by Colts dot

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Speaker 1: Com writer Amanda Foster. As we are giving you all

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Speaker 1: of the last minute news notes and observations we have

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Speaker 1: before the Colts head to sconsin for a date with

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Speaker 1: the Packers at lambeau Field. We'll have injury updates and

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Speaker 1: the most interesting things we learned from the Colts locker

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Speaker 1: room this week. Let's get the podcast started, all right, Amanda.

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Speaker 1: Quite a few injury updates we have on Friday. Only

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Speaker 1: one player ruled out, though, safety Julian Blackman. He has

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Speaker 1: a shoulder injury. He will be out Chainstike and did

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Speaker 1: say he doesn't think it's gonna be a long term thing.

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Speaker 1: The Colts secondary already depleted this week, Juju, Brent's going

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Speaker 1: on ir This is one where I hate to say, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can manage it based on the opponent.

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Speaker 1: But as we're recording the the Packers have not yet

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Speaker 1: ruled out Jordan Love. I'm sure he did.

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Speaker 2: I saw on Twitter right before we hopped in here

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Speaker 2: that he was once again not practicing too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's not practicing today, so you would assume he's

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Speaker 1: not going to play. Maybe it's a little bit of gamesmanship,

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Speaker 1: but if you were. We're recording this now, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: by the time someone listens to this, you'll know what

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Speaker 1: Jordan love status is. Yeah, so you're going into it

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Speaker 1: thinking it's going to be Malik Willis. He's a guy

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Speaker 1: who's you know, struggled to throw the ball in his

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Speaker 1: career that you know, you obviously want all your players

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Speaker 1: out there, but hopefully if there's a game for Jillian

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Speaker 1: Blackman to miss, maybe it's this one against green Bay,

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Speaker 1: just with the the potential not guaranteed, potential deficiencies green

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Speaker 2: Have, right, and obviously you never want to go into

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Speaker 2: a game missing any of your starters. But kind of

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Speaker 2: like you said, if you're looking at the colts overall schedule,

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, the offenses that they're going to be facing,

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Speaker 2: and you compare that with what we are thinking might

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Speaker 2: happen in Green Bay, Like you said, this is one

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Speaker 2: where it will probably be easier to manage than a

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Speaker 2: couple weeks down the line. Later on in the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so again, we'll see how long Blackman is out.

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Speaker 1: Shanstikeen did say it's the same shoulder he injured last

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Speaker 1: year that wound him up, putting him on IR toward

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. So maybe the most encouraging

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Speaker 1: thing on Friday, Amanda, was that DeForest Buckner was not

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Speaker 1: ruled out. Yep, he's a back injury he's been dealing with,

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Speaker 1: but you know, he talked in the locker room on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: he said he probably would be a game time decision.

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Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen on Friday sounded pretty optimistic, yep, that Buckner

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Speaker 1: could give it a go. And there's good reason here, Amanda.

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Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner in his career has missed one game due

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Speaker 1: to injury, and that came in twenty sixteen when he

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Speaker 1: was a rookie with the forty nine ers. So I

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Speaker 1: think the vibe on Buckner is that he probably can go.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, look, if there's any player on this

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Speaker 1: team who can play without practicing, it's DeForest Buckner, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no lack of confidence in him from anybody

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Speaker 2: anywhere in this organization. And then, like you said, for

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Speaker 2: a good reason, and I saw him briefly in the

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Speaker 2: I think looks to be on the positive side for him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean he is. He is someone who's regimen

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Speaker 1: where he's healthy is remarkable. So you know, hopefully he's

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Speaker 1: able to go again, probably more of a game time decision.

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Speaker 1: You hope that everything checks out. He's okay on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had a second half in week one,

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Speaker 1: those efforts, literally and figuratively, literally and figuratively. One other,

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Speaker 1: one other guy here, Josh Downs. Sounds like he's going

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Speaker 1: last week. You had a long talk with Adie Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, one hundred percent, and kind of with the

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Speaker 2: There's so much depth in the wide receiver room that

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Speaker 2: And Reggie talked about that with us earlier this week,

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Speaker 2: He talked about this with me a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 2: And there's no lack of confidence in him that they're

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Speaker 2: much in the preseason and training camp. Something that I

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Speaker 2: he's always nervous for every football game he plays on.

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Speaker 2: He was like, oh, yeah, Even like when I was

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Speaker 2: like that. And a lot of that for him is

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Speaker 2: because football is so unpredicted that you can prepare as

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Speaker 2: And so I asked him, It's like, does that kind

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Speaker 2: you kind of miss some of these opportunities. You don't

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Speaker 2: really know what's happening. He was like, yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: I thought that mentality says a lot about his approach

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Speaker 2: as a rookie, and Reggie was talking about this. He

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Speaker 2: say that obviously, Adie Mitchell is not being a professional,

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Speaker 2: but that wasn't as much of the storyline around him,

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Speaker 2: goes back to this wide receiver room and how much

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Speaker 2: and none of that has changed despite you know, if

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Speaker 2: that's he's going into Green Bay with the exact same

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I like the thing that Ad mentioned

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to be that negative voice in my

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks here, yep. And Reggie Wayne got asked about that,

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Speaker 1: and Reggie goes, well, I wouldn't let him right right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But like you know, sometimes sometimes you do get players

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Speaker 1: a bad sign. If you're leader of that room is

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Speaker 1: But that still happens sometimes in the NFL and Nadie

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to a certain extent. It's understandable in a way

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Speaker 2: where we're all human. Everybody wants to have your own

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Speaker 1: And just understanding too. Like he's going to keep getting

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Speaker 2: So and then they'll keep going, and I'll hop br

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Speaker 1: This goes back to the thing I keep thinking after

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Speaker 1: it's our only chance in the game. For Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: They've gone multiple that are laid out in that playbook

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Speaker 1: So Adie Mitchell is gonna get plenty more opportunities as

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Speaker 1: A couple other injury updates here, quit he pay not

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Speaker 1: You know, he talked to us in the locker room

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Speaker 1: So you know he'll go out there and play for

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Speaker 1: the Colts on Sunday, make his season debut. Spencer Schrader

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Speaker 1: But you know it's Mackay's job and he's back in

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Speaker 1: it this week. All right. Just some other interesting conversations

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Speaker 1: I had not just with Alec Pierce, both with Reggie

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Speaker 1: Wayne where and I wrote this on Colts dot com.

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Speaker 1: It was all about the other catch that Alec Pierce made.

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Speaker 2: Because nobody other than you writing about it, nobody just

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Speaker 1: So that stemmed from a conversation I had with Bill Brooks,

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Speaker 1: which is where most of my ideas come from. Right,

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Speaker 1: is like, hey, Bill, I want to ask you about that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Right?

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Speaker 1: Because Bill obviously played in the league. He you know,

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