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Speaker 6: Talking Tuesday, everybody. It is we sixteen of the NFL season,
Speaker 6: and of course the Cowboys coming off that loss against Buffalo.
Speaker 6: Everybody's still a little bit down about that.
Speaker 5: I get it, I get it. It won. But all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, yeah, all of a sudden, I feel
Speaker 5: a little bit better about it after what happened on
Speaker 5: Monday Night football.
Speaker 6: We've got isaiahs standback, Nick Harris, not Josh Rodriguez today,
Speaker 6: he's on Friday.
Speaker 5: We have John Machoda today j EM's back in the building.
Speaker 6: Chris Beam is back in the building as well. In
Speaker 6: the back running everything. John, I want to get your
Speaker 6: thoughts on what happened in Buffalo.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, man, I'm just listening to Jerry on the radio,
Speaker 7: and we got the Jerry that was, I don't want
Speaker 7: to say making excuses, but he was not the Jerry
Speaker 7: Jones that was ripping the team. And I guess as
Speaker 7: the owner and general manager he has to do that
Speaker 7: in this point. But he could have come out and
Speaker 7: ripped the team and it would have been totally worthy
Speaker 7: of it. It's not that loss in Buffalo. That isn't
Speaker 7: the thing. You can lose a close game that is
Speaker 7: a good football team and not be surprised if they
Speaker 7: make a deep run in the playoffs. I really do
Speaker 7: think that is a much better team, and the record says
Speaker 7: it's the thirty one to three midway through the fourth quarter.
Speaker 7: You're too good of a team for any team in
Speaker 7: the NFL to do that to you in their place,
Speaker 7: at your place wherever. That's the part that you know. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you can be happy that Seattle just beat the Eagles
Speaker 7: and all that, and hey, you can be happy that
Speaker 7: the Eagles look like they got some serious problems going on,
Speaker 7: But you've got some issues of your own. To to
Speaker 7: have the run defense play as poorly as it did,
Speaker 7: for this offense to have as many weapons as they
Speaker 7: have to not be able to put together a drive,
Speaker 7: whether we're talking before half coming out of the half,
Speaker 7: it just doesn't give you a lot of strong feelings
Speaker 7: of all right, if this team goes on the road
Speaker 7: in the playoffs, that they can win consecutive road games,
Speaker 7: which has been the thing that we've felt for the
Speaker 7: last couple of years. I know I have at least
Speaker 7: so yes, while it is three consecutive playoff appearances in
Speaker 7: a row, that's great. This is obviously one of the
Speaker 7: best teams in the NFL. There's no arguing that. There's
Speaker 7: no question is one of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 7: But the goal for this team is to make a
Speaker 7: run to the super Bowl. And when you have performances
Speaker 7: like that one, you have performances like the forty nine
Speaker 7: Ers game, and even that Arizona won, to a certain extent, it.
Speaker 5: Makes you.
Speaker 7: It makes you think, well, why why won't this happen
Speaker 7: in the playoffs? Why won't this happen in January if
Speaker 7: they go on the road. And like I said, there's
Speaker 7: a lot of people that are probably looking at like, well,
Speaker 7: they're just San Francisco. That's the only team you have
Speaker 7: to worry about.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 7: You play like that, you can lose at Philly, even
Speaker 7: as bad Phillies playing run out. You can lose at Detroit.
Speaker 7: I don't think you can lose.
Speaker 5: In the FIRS.
Speaker 7: I don't think they'd lose in the first round. I
Speaker 7: really don't. I don't. I don't think that they'll have
Speaker 7: any problem with if they don't win the division and
Speaker 7: they yeah, and they open against NMC South. But but
Speaker 7: there was just things that happened in that game where
Speaker 7: they can lose a game like that, and you can
Speaker 7: you can be like, I get it, but to play
Speaker 7: the way that they played, you know, there's just so
Speaker 7: many levels to it that it was just it was
Speaker 7: just very very disappointing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you mentioned Jerry didn't really rip the team, and
Speaker 8: definitely not. There was a moment though where he kind
Speaker 8: of challenged the coaching staff a little bit on the
Speaker 8: on the fan this morning, and he said, it's your
Speaker 8: fault talk about the coaching staff. It's your fault that
Speaker 8: you know that the Cowboys are on this pedestal. Now
Speaker 8: you got to live up to that point every week,
Speaker 8: and wherever you go out and you lay an egg
Speaker 8: like that to Buffalo, it doesn't live up to what
Speaker 8: you've you've accomplished to this point basically is the words
Speaker 8: he was trying to put together in the Jerry way.
Speaker 2: So I think that's a that's a valid point.
Speaker 8: But I I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 8: and we talked about it so much yesterday, it just
Speaker 8: kind of came down to fit physicalness, of physicality, discipline,
Speaker 8: all those kinds of things.
Speaker 2: So we'll see it get corrected this week.
Speaker 7: Maybe they're just parts of that game where you're just like,
Speaker 7: it felt like how much longer do they have to play?
Speaker 7: How many more quarters would have to be played in
Speaker 7: this game before they started playing the way that they're
Speaker 7: spot Like, was it going to be six quarters?
Speaker 2: Eight quarters?
Speaker 7: It just felt like you were just like watching the
Speaker 7: same thing over and over again, where you could almost
Speaker 7: be like, oh, let's go see if they put out
Speaker 7: any more food in the press box here, because I
Speaker 7: already know what's going on here. That's that's not gonna
Speaker 7: change Joey back see you guys, Like, I mean, it
Speaker 7: just was like what is going on here?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 7: Like again, and I do think Buffalo is a good team,
Speaker 7: but they're not that good. They're not that good like
Speaker 7: hold you to thirty one three midway through the fourth quarter.
Speaker 7: They're not in that level. When Josh Allen isn't even
Speaker 7: throwing for one hundred yards, I mean, what do we
Speaker 7: let's I mean.
Speaker 5: Well, even we talked about this a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 6: Mike greg Olsen was talking about how this is a
Speaker 6: team that's never had the running game, not while Josh
Speaker 6: Allen's there. They've never had that consistent running game. And
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden they're running all over Dallas
Speaker 6: and so yeah, it was it was a change of mentality.
Speaker 6: We previewed Josh Allen all the way through. They didn't
Speaker 6: get Josh Allen, they got James Cook and that's kind
Speaker 6: of what ended up happening. And Jerry was asked about
Speaker 6: that directly on the fan. Credit to Sean and rj
Speaker 6: H for asking the question. Bobby there too, but they
Speaker 6: asked it as as really as bluntly as possible. Do
Speaker 6: you think it's a problem that you got out physicaled
Speaker 6: by Buffalo, and he said, basically, you gotta change. You
Speaker 6: gotta be more physical, and you got to make tackles.
Speaker 6: You got to do all the fundamental things. And it's
Speaker 6: kind of like what you said initially is he wasn't
Speaker 6: giving complete excuses, but he was also saying, okay, like,
Speaker 6: this isn't the defense that we've seen in the past.
Speaker 5: You just got to play better than what you did
Speaker 5: on Sunday. I don't agree. I could tell. I could
Speaker 5: see the face. Yeah, I don't agree.
Speaker 9: This is the defense that you've seen in the past
Speaker 9: and it hasn't changed. Unfortunately, we've talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 9: We don't have to, you know, recap it. But this,
Speaker 9: this is a really good defense as long as they
Speaker 9: don't play a physical team that is persistent to run
Speaker 9: and running the ball.
Speaker 6: Is that because they were built on speed and not physicality.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're built on a pass rush. Absolutely. So I mean,
Speaker 9: is there's no secret here. I mean, this is the
Speaker 9: reason why. And again, coming off yesterdays show of You
Speaker 9: Guys and listen, we kept bringing up the fact that
Speaker 9: you needed to have another version of Jonathan Hankins because he.
Speaker 5: Was not the only problem.
Speaker 9: But psychologically, what that does to your entire defense in
Speaker 9: terms of their confidence against the run is everything. And yes,
Speaker 9: you're missing his presence on the inside. Yes, you got
Speaker 9: beat up on the outside as well in terms of
Speaker 9: your defensive ends getting getting reached and linebackers coming and
Speaker 9: getting reached and getting power drive into the ground. But
Speaker 9: teams that can run the ball and are persistent in
Speaker 9: running the ball have never had a problem against Dallas,
Speaker 9: And I would love to hear a team that did.
Speaker 9: Washington when they were persistent a couple years ago. Did it,
Speaker 9: Minnesota did it? Forty nine ers did it, Arizona did it.
Speaker 9: We're talking about the top teams. Obviously I went back
Speaker 9: a couple of years, but let's go back to this year, right.
Speaker 9: I brought up to the stat yesterday of the top
Speaker 9: seven teams rushing teams in the NFL, Dallas has lost
Speaker 9: to three of them in the top five that remain.
Speaker 9: Detroit in Miami as second in number four. You're going
Speaker 9: to see more. What are you going to do to
Speaker 9: address it?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: It's definitely not going to be personnel, So it has
Speaker 9: to be an approach. You're going to ask your guys
Speaker 9: to do something that they haven't done against teams that
Speaker 9: are going to be persistent and are very successful in
Speaker 9: running the ball. So how are you going to change?
Speaker 9: What are you going to do? Because you can't change
Speaker 9: your personnel. You got to change your mentality and your
Speaker 9: approach to how you're going to take this on because
Speaker 9: you're going to see more and the teams that you're
Speaker 9: about to face do it better than the teams that
Speaker 9: you've played yet.
Speaker 5: It's part of it.
Speaker 6: And I mean, like you said, personnel wise, is not
Speaker 6: gonna happen until Jonathan Hankins comes back.
Speaker 5: With that being said, are there any updates news and notes? Yeah,
Speaker 5: Jonathan Hankins news.
Speaker 8: And notes wise, there's nothing new on Jonathan Hankins. It's
Speaker 8: kind of the same going into this week is as
Speaker 8: it was last week. Just kind of seeing how the
Speaker 8: week progresses, and you know, maybe it'll be more of
Speaker 8: a Thursday, Friday, Saturday determination. As far as where he'll go,
Speaker 8: this is just my hunch feeling. I don't think he
Speaker 8: goes on Sunday. Whenever the injury happened, we were expecting
Speaker 8: two to four weeks. I think it's going to take
Speaker 8: at least the two full weeks and if you ask me,
Speaker 8: I keep him out the rest of the regular season honestly,
Speaker 8: and just make sure he's ready for the playoffs. That
Speaker 8: definitely does hurt their run defense causes whenever you look
Speaker 8: at Miami and Detroit and what they can put together
Speaker 8: from a run gay perspective. So you're gonna have to
Speaker 8: figure out what to do there, But you also you
Speaker 8: also need him for the playoffs, and you need him
Speaker 8: healthy for the playoffs. As far as Zach Martin, Jerry
Speaker 8: was asked about it on the fan this morning my
Speaker 8: McCarthy yesterday. They're going through rehab this week. There seems
Speaker 8: to be optimism there that he's gonna play on Sunday,
Speaker 8: and we're talking about Zach Martin here. I don't think
Speaker 8: a thigh bruis or a quad is going to keep
Speaker 8: him out now. That is that is dependent on if
Speaker 8: he can be as strong as possible with that. With
Speaker 8: that quad, he's got to be able to put the
Speaker 8: strength together for it. That's what kept him out of
Speaker 8: the Buffalo game. Whenever they took him to the Blue
Speaker 8: Medical ten. He says it wasn't firing as far as
Speaker 8: giving him strength and you know, being.
Speaker 2: Able to plant on it.
Speaker 8: So that's gonna be the biggest thing when we're looking
Speaker 8: at it again Thursday, Friday, Saturday. But my hunch feeling
Speaker 8: is that he does play on Sunday. Okay, quad contusion,
Speaker 8: suck man, what's have you ever had a quad confusion?
Speaker 9: I've had a quad contusion, but not to the level
Speaker 9: of some of the guys that I've played with. And
Speaker 9: what when you when he talks about again, I can't
Speaker 9: speak to his particular back and speak to situations that
Speaker 9: I've seen and been around. That quad contusion. What happens
Speaker 9: is you have you have such a blow to your
Speaker 9: quad that it instantly swells up and pretty much that
Speaker 9: nerve gets trauma to it to the point where it
Speaker 9: can no longer fire right. Your brain is telling your
Speaker 9: leg to do something and it's not hearing what it
Speaker 9: has to say because that nerve is not having free
Speaker 9: free flow right and have.
Speaker 5: The ability to free flow.
Speaker 9: So that's why he said it's not firing, like, it's
Speaker 9: not doing what I'm telling it to do, right, And
Speaker 9: that quad contusion, depending on the severity. Most times, what
Speaker 9: I've seen is you have to sleep with your knee bent.
Speaker 9: You literally have to sleep with your knee bent. There's
Speaker 9: a whole contraption that bends your knee because what happens
Speaker 9: is as soon as your scar tissue starts binding down
Speaker 9: on your muscles, if your leg is straight, if you're
Speaker 9: sleeping with your legs straight, when your body's healing at
Speaker 9: night time, now all of a sudden, your your muscles
Speaker 9: will not move, your tendons will not move because that
Speaker 9: scar tissue is binding it down, and it's so much
Speaker 9: harder to come back from a quad contusion whenever you
Speaker 9: don't take that proper approach. This training staff is more
Speaker 9: than capable. Of these guys are knowledgeable as any staff
Speaker 9: in the league. So I know they're doing everything possible
Speaker 9: to get Zach back. But that injury, even though I
Speaker 9: know people are looking at him like that, doesn't look
Speaker 9: like much.
Speaker 5: That quakingitution just sucks.
Speaker 7: Usually Jerry's the one that's most positive about injury, so
Speaker 7: it was kind of interesting to see a flip where
Speaker 7: Zach is real positive after the game. Mike McCarthy was
Speaker 7: positive after a game and then positive yesterday, and then
Speaker 7: Jerry today said he didn't know, so that was kind
Speaker 7: of surprise. I agree with you, though, I think he plays, Yeah.
Speaker 5: You think he goes. You think Jonathan Hankins does not go?
Speaker 2: Correct, Okay, that's my guess.
Speaker 5: There's your injury.
Speaker 6: And I'm sure there's going to be a longer injury
Speaker 6: or report tomorrow whenever they're back on the practice field,
Speaker 6: because there were a couple of guys that played through
Speaker 6: some things in Buffalo.
Speaker 7: Is the only one that's of note, like of notable
Speaker 7: injury type. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I'll say this, Malie Cooker is very needed in this
Speaker 8: Miami game, and we'll talk about it more this week.
Speaker 8: But you have to keep everything underneath against this team.
Speaker 8: If you let anything out over the top, that's what
Speaker 8: this offense becomes the most dangerous offense in the NFL.
Speaker 8: That's what happened in that seventy point out burst against
Speaker 8: the Broncos. So you need Mollie Cooker as that single
Speaker 8: hot guy that can keep everything underneath.
Speaker 5: That's completely huge.
Speaker 7: So yeah, kind a surprise though that he didn't play.
Speaker 7: I think yeah, it was like more of a day
Speaker 7: of thing where that was like, all right, well he's
Speaker 7: not gonna be able to go. I think most people
Speaker 7: felt in the building that he had a chance to
Speaker 7: play in that game. So I'm thinking because of that,
Speaker 7: then he's probably got a really good chance to to
Speaker 7: don back and play in Miami.
Speaker 5: That's a good thing.
Speaker 6: Hopefully without a setback this week, and he stays clean
Speaker 6: through practice, and then you're able to do that. Moving
Speaker 6: into Sunday, all right, I gave Nick Harriuss a call
Speaker 6: last night. I had to get on the phone. I
Speaker 6: was on my way back from a basketball game, and
Speaker 6: I had to had to get on the phone line
Speaker 6: the significance of Seattle's win last night. Congratulations to the
Speaker 6: city of Seattle. They were two for two. One In
Speaker 6: terms of helping Dallas, there.
Speaker 5: Were two for two.
Speaker 7: He he reps all of Seattle.
Speaker 5: Yes, he does.
Speaker 7: We want to congratulate you know this in your city.
Speaker 6: The Seahawks helped the Cowboys cracking lose to the Stars.
Speaker 5: It was great Stars. It was over time. He stole
Speaker 5: the point. But let's talk about what was that? Two points? No,
Speaker 5: it's one no points in terms of the standings. If
Speaker 5: you win, you get two points. If you win and
Speaker 5: if you lose an overtime you get a point. It's
Speaker 5: hockey talk.
Speaker 7: How could you how could you not know that?
Speaker 5: Gosh, come on now, geez all right, No, that was
Speaker 5: just funny.
Speaker 6: Watch we scored two points points whatever.
Speaker 5: All right, I want to talk through playoff scenarios. We
Speaker 5: talked through this.
Speaker 6: Last night, because the Seattle win does have significance over
Speaker 6: the Eagles anyways. It has significance because it brings back
Speaker 6: the tie breakers.
Speaker 5: A couple of tie breakers in favor of the Cowboys
Speaker 5: are released even with the Eagles. Here are the.
Speaker 6: Top five tie breakers in terms of the NFL playoffs
Speaker 6: seeding and how it lines up. Number one has head
Speaker 6: to head. Number two is wins and losses within the division.
Speaker 6: Number three is wins and losses against common opponents, and
Speaker 6: then four wins and losses versus the conference five strength
Speaker 6: of victory. In this specific scenario, right now, if the
Speaker 6: season ended, the Cowboys are certainly the leader. But it's
Speaker 6: only for now because of the vision, because they have
Speaker 6: that number two spot at the moment. But then, of
Speaker 6: course Philly can take that back, and then it goes
Speaker 6: all the way down to number five strength of victory.
Speaker 6: We probably won't have to go further than strength of victory.
Speaker 6: That's going to be the deciding factor if it all
Speaker 6: ends up, even in those first four tiebreakers, right, now
Speaker 6: the Cowboys own division, but if Philly wins out, they
Speaker 6: would take back those or at least be tied in
Speaker 6: the first four tie breakers and go all the way
Speaker 6: down the strength of victory.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so both teams right now are at ten and four.
Speaker 8: If they both finish at thirteen and four, the Philadelphia
Speaker 8: Eagles win.
Speaker 2: An NFC East.
Speaker 8: I want to throw out one misconception that going back
Speaker 8: and forth with a lot of pea on Twitter last
Speaker 8: night healthily because there's a lot of confusion there, but
Speaker 8: it was it was healthy talk. Point differential is not
Speaker 8: a tiebreaker, so there's there was a couple of people.
Speaker 5: That it does not play in the strength of victory either.
Speaker 8: Yes, and so there were a couple of people that
Speaker 8: were like, oh, the Cowboys are leading the NFC East
Speaker 8: because they beat the Eagles by more than the Eagle. No,
Speaker 8: that's that's not a thing. So basically, we ran through
Speaker 8: it all and I'm going to kind of summarize it
Speaker 8: as easily as possible here. If the Cowboys go three
Speaker 8: and oh down the stretch, they will need the Eagles
Speaker 8: to lose one game regardless. If the Cowboys go two
Speaker 8: and one down the stretch with a loss to either
Speaker 8: Miami or Detroit, they will still need the Eagles to
Speaker 8: just lose one game. So basically, the Cowboys can afford
Speaker 8: to lose to either Miami or Detroit and still need
Speaker 8: the same result.
Speaker 9: So it doesn't matter which one you lose to, It
Speaker 9: does not matter, does not matter as long as you
Speaker 9: beat Washington.
Speaker 8: We alt beat Washington because that's a divisional game. The
Speaker 8: divisional tie break comes first, so you have to win
Speaker 8: that Washington game. But if the Eagles were to lose
Speaker 8: to they have three games left, Giants, Cardinals, Giants. They'll
Speaker 8: lose to any of those three games, and the Cowboys
Speaker 8: beat Washington and one of Miami and Detroit, and the
Speaker 8: Cowboys won the division.
Speaker 2: So there's there's a lane there.
Speaker 8: Granted, the Eagles are playing really two bad teams and
Speaker 8: three games basically right, three bad teams, So you're hoping
Speaker 8: for a little bit of help there.
Speaker 2: I was talking with Kyle last night, and I.
Speaker 8: Think the best case scenario is you have the Giants
Speaker 8: going into Philadelphia this week, maybe they just get wrong
Speaker 8: a little bit, figure out some things, and then they
Speaker 8: get them at home in a.
Speaker 2: Couple of weeks.
Speaker 8: That's that's probably your best opportunity and then yeah, you're
Speaker 8: looking at Tommy DeVito or Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 2: So we'll see there.
Speaker 8: The Cardinals also have been playing better since Kyler has
Speaker 8: been back. They've looked, they've looked better. Their defense is
Speaker 8: still you know what's the word. They're acceptable at times,
Speaker 8: but if you get an Eagles loss in one of
Speaker 8: those games, then you're talking. But you have to beat
Speaker 8: one of Miami or Detroit and that's that's that's test number.
Speaker 9: What is your level of confidence in the remaining three
Speaker 9: games for the Eagles?
Speaker 8: For the Eagles, I mean, if I'm gonna if I'm
Speaker 8: gonna guess they go three and oh and it's.
Speaker 5: That's kind of the way it is. Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: so too.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not very high that you would get
Speaker 6: some help anyways, and hopefully it happens. And then it
Speaker 6: comes down to that strength of victory. And that's where
Speaker 6: it gets confusing. Right now, the Cowboys have a significant
Speaker 6: margin to make up in terms of strength of victory.
Speaker 5: I believe we went through it last night.
Speaker 6: You're not mathematically eliminated if strength of victory comes into play,
Speaker 6: but you would basically need if then this is this
Speaker 6: is the only scenario where both teams win out Cowboys Eagles.
Speaker 6: You would need everything to go your way. You would
Speaker 6: need every non common opponent that the Eagles didn't play.
Speaker 5: Or didn't beat to lose.
Speaker 9: And then you've got it a chance there and went
Speaker 9: So you went out, right, So say you went out,
Speaker 9: you win the division.
Speaker 5: Okay, you're still number two behind San Francisco. What then?
Speaker 5: What then?
Speaker 6: You would be playing probably Seattle or Green Bay or
Speaker 6: Los Angeles or Minnesota. You would play the seventh seed
Speaker 6: in the wildcard round at at and T Stadium, and then.
Speaker 8: More importantly you get Philadelphia at home in the divisional
Speaker 8: round or another team.
Speaker 6: But yeah, you would avoid San Francisco until the conference
Speaker 6: title game. That would be the prize of winning the
Speaker 6: division and getting to that second seed San Francs.
Speaker 5: You avoid San Fran till till the till the I mean,
Speaker 5: that's why I want you to lay it out. The
Speaker 5: goal is to San Fran.
Speaker 7: I think though, if they were to lose to the Lions,
Speaker 7: though I think the Lions could and then the Lions
Speaker 7: went out, I think they would get the two correct.
Speaker 6: We're saying that if they are the two seed, if
Speaker 6: they yeah, there's there's scenarios where the Lions would take
Speaker 6: the two seed from the Cowboys and they would be
Speaker 6: the three seed or the four seed even if they win,
Speaker 6: probably not the four seed, it's probably or three if
Speaker 6: they win the Vision.
Speaker 5: But if they are the two seed, that's your prize.
Speaker 6: Is you wouldn't see San Francisco until the NFC title game.
Speaker 6: And if you don't see San Francisco, that means you
Speaker 6: host the NFC.
Speaker 5: That's what the people needed to hear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I mean there's if you're the second seed
Speaker 6: and you win the or excuse me, if you're the
Speaker 6: NFC East champions, there's a pretty good chance you're the
Speaker 6: second seed unless you lose that Detroit game and then
Speaker 6: Philly loses one of those down the.
Speaker 5: Stretch because never losing with Jimmy Johnson game. You would
Speaker 5: never lose Jimmy Johnson game or at home. I mean
Speaker 5: the way they played in Arlington.
Speaker 8: I just worry about uh. Nate Newton just texted us
Speaker 8: man just win man double.
Speaker 7: You did sound like you were doing election coverage where
Speaker 7: you're like, now there is said county could get When
Speaker 7: you said there was a lane, the first thing I
Speaker 7: thought of it was like that, see if Corneck can
Speaker 7: be like, no, technically there's a path.
Speaker 2: There's a path for Trump.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Caden Gates, one of our producers here, does a fantastic job.
Speaker 8: I was kind of answer one of his questions on
Speaker 8: Twitter yesterday, kind of getting some clarity as far as
Speaker 8: strength of victory.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? So that means you take all
Speaker 2: the teams that the Cowboys have beat all season.
Speaker 5: College football playoffs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and you calculate their win percentage, and that
Speaker 8: win percentage for Philadelphia is significantly higher than it is
Speaker 8: for Dallas. Right now, it's not mathematically impossible for Dallas
Speaker 8: to make up that stretch. What I mean, It's not
Speaker 8: gonna happen. Like it simply, it's not gonna happen. I
Speaker 8: kind of broke it down and I said, this is
Speaker 8: about a ninety percent chance that tiebreaker would go to Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: You would need a lot of things to happen.
Speaker 6: You would need maybe even bigger than that. It may
Speaker 6: be more like ninety five. Yeah, for Sam, it's pretty
Speaker 6: heavily in favor of Philly.
Speaker 8: You would need the Jets, the Chargers, the Panthers, and
Speaker 8: the Seahawks to win like basically went out and those Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 8: that's the non common opponent that you beat, And then
Speaker 8: you would also need Buffalo KC. And there were a
Speaker 8: couple of other really good teams to lose, and it's
Speaker 8: just like, we're not gonna.
Speaker 2: Look at this anymore.
Speaker 8: So, yeah, that's that's what the strength of victory is,
Speaker 8: that fifth tiebreaker.
Speaker 2: Things are getting confusing, but hey, that's uh, I guess
Speaker 2: that's a good.
Speaker 5: Problem, some predicament that you place yourself in.
Speaker 6: It is, And yeah, it also is a byproduct of
Speaker 6: Seattle winning last night because initially common opponent wouldn't have
Speaker 6: been in favor of Dallas, and by virtue of that
Speaker 6: conference would have been out of play by a game
Speaker 6: as well. You would have needed Philly to love something
Speaker 6: significant down the stretch in order for you to.
Speaker 5: To even be in this conversation.
Speaker 6: So Seattle in that game winning drive last night makes
Speaker 6: this all relevant.
Speaker 9: Dara asked this question, what would have happened if you
Speaker 9: would have won your last game.
Speaker 6: It would have been in a really good spot, really good.
Speaker 6: Then you would control your destiny.
Speaker 5: The rest of the way is what happened.
Speaker 7: But you say that like it was close. Nothing about
Speaker 7: that game, are you like?
Speaker 9: That's why I was surprised that you said that they
Speaker 9: that they the Buffalo's not that good?
Speaker 7: Who said that you?
Speaker 2: He did say that, Yeah, he did love it. He
Speaker 2: said they a way better than.
Speaker 5: Run that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, to win the Super I never.
Speaker 5: Not that good to beat them thirty one to.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, not that good.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's what thirty one.
Speaker 2: He say that you were not yet fell is good
Speaker 2: enough to beat them?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just happened. It did happen. Well, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: the points.
Speaker 7: I can't even see her. These goalposts are just moving everywhere.
Speaker 2: It's just focus.
Speaker 5: I want to argument or do we just will say
Speaker 5: that they're not good and no team is good enough
Speaker 5: to beat them like that, and then it just happened.
Speaker 6: Listen, you're trying to argue with the guy who doesn't
Speaker 6: know the difference between goals and points.
Speaker 5: He just doesn't know this.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, matter good. I didn't say it couldn't.
Speaker 7: It shouldn't obviously could because it didn't. And it also Francisco,
Speaker 7: San Francisco, I would love it. We'll bet everything you
Speaker 7: want to.
Speaker 6: I was about to say, it's like if you run
Speaker 6: about winning mode right now, roll roll all right. When
Speaker 6: we come back, Chris Beam is gonna mute Isaiah's mike
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Speaker 6: Isaiah had his coffee this morning, You can tell I didn't.
Speaker 9: I did not have my coffee this morre. But I
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Speaker 5: Three hundred milliground. What if I had another one in here?
Speaker 5: We down it again. I don't need it today. There's
Speaker 5: not one in there. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: If that's gonna happy to get my wife page. Oh gosh, man,
Speaker 6: all right, we've got some calls to take insurance.
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Speaker 6: Give us a call. First off, we've got Gary in
Speaker 6: New Mexico. You're on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Gary. What's going on?
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, thank you for breaking down that whole tie
Speaker 14: breaking procedure. I've tried to do that last night after
Speaker 14: the game and got a really bad headache. Now, back
Speaker 14: in the day, net point differential was a tiebreaker. The
Speaker 14: Cowboys actually lost a division on that back of nineteen eighty.
Speaker 14: But now they got rid of that and said.
Speaker 15: Strength and victory.
Speaker 14: This all goes back to losing at Arizona.
Speaker 5: It does.
Speaker 14: If they would have took care of business against Arizona,
Speaker 14: this wouldn't even be a conversation. I don't have a
Speaker 14: problem within losing at Buffalo. I mean the way they
Speaker 14: lost you out, but I think most people had that
Speaker 14: as a loss when the season started. That's a good
Speaker 14: football team that was very desperate Dallas wasn't going to
Speaker 14: win nine straight to close out the year, so I
Speaker 14: don't really have a problem with the Buffalo loss. And
Speaker 14: here's the bub line. If the Cowboys are gonna break
Speaker 14: this twenty five year curse of not getting to a
Speaker 14: super Bowl, they're gonna just have to overcome some stuff
Speaker 14: and do things that people don't think they can do.
Speaker 14: Bottom line is, you're gonna have to beat Philadelphia and
Speaker 14: San Francisco in the playoffs, and you're gonna have to
Speaker 14: be one of them on the road, maybe both of
Speaker 14: them on the road, and great teams have to do
Speaker 14: great things. And there's nothing that says they can do
Speaker 14: that based on what we've seen so far. But we
Speaker 14: know they have talent, and it only takes once. It
Speaker 14: takes the bounce of the ball one way or the other.
Speaker 14: One big play here, one big play there, and then
Speaker 14: you get over the hump. And I think I'm not
Speaker 14: giving up on them yet. I'm I'm not ready to
Speaker 14: give up on them yet. Let's see how it plays out.
Speaker 14: This is a good football team three straight years in
Speaker 14: the playoffs. That hasn't happened since I was in college.
Speaker 14: So I think we need to remember that three straight
Speaker 14: ten win seasons. That hasn't happened since I was in college.
Speaker 14: So let's appreciate what we got. Let's left the season
Speaker 14: finish out, let them get back on a roll, let
Speaker 14: them regroup, Let's see what happens in January. But you're
Speaker 14: gonna have to overcome some stuff if.
Speaker 5: You want to be a champion, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6: Gary, Thank you for the call. Great points all the
Speaker 6: way across the board. And I think the number one
Speaker 6: thing here is, yes, Arizona, that loss is going to
Speaker 6: haunt you. And the only time that that's going to
Speaker 6: get negated is if Arizona does the same thing to
Speaker 6: Philadelphia and then it helps you out significantly. However, even then,
Speaker 6: if you have the win over Arizona, you don't have
Speaker 6: to worry about it. Then that one we knew when
Speaker 6: it came down that that was going to be a
Speaker 6: big loss on the road. As far as overcoming adversity,
Speaker 6: do you think this team's good enough to do.
Speaker 2: So at home?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: On the road? I had to see it first.
Speaker 8: You know that you can't point to a road win
Speaker 8: this season that would give you confidence going on the
Speaker 8: road in the playoffs. Yea, Until then, you know, we'll
Speaker 8: just have to see. Since McCarthy has been hired. We
Speaker 8: were kind of talking about it in the press, Fox
Speaker 8: and Buffalo. You can really only point to two regular
Speaker 8: season road victories that give you confidence in this team
Speaker 8: being a road team. Soda victory from last season and
Speaker 8: then the victory in New England a couple of years
Speaker 8: ago and overtime where CD had to walk off. You
Speaker 8: could throw in that. I had a couple of people
Speaker 8: DM me about this. You could throw in the Tampa
Speaker 8: Bay win in the wildcard round last year, but the
Speaker 8: Cowboys were favored in that game. Yeah, I guess it
Speaker 8: was Tom Brady. Yes, it was a Tampa Bay team
Speaker 8: that's won a Super Bowl, but that team was struggling
Speaker 8: going into the playoffs and the Cowboys were favored in
Speaker 8: that game. So I don't necessarily consider that a big
Speaker 8: road win as a playoff road win. Absolutely, But that's
Speaker 8: besides the point. I don't feel good about this team
Speaker 8: going on the road. If they were at home, they
Speaker 8: could win the NFC. If they had every playoff game
Speaker 8: at home, they could win the NFC.
Speaker 2: But it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 7: So I completely agree with you, and I thought that
Speaker 7: was a really good call. Yeah, he had a lot
Speaker 7: of good points, and I completely agree with him. The
Speaker 7: entire time I've covered the team, I've thought that, well, there,
Speaker 7: if it ain't rough, it ain't right. There ain't ain't
Speaker 7: there ain't gonna be some easy path to winning a championship.
Speaker 7: It just doesn't happen. I mean, I can't even think
Speaker 7: of a team that just I don't know. There's probably
Speaker 7: some most Brady Patriots teams, but outside of that, like
Speaker 7: almost everybody has to go through something. So I completely
Speaker 7: agree on that. The one part though, that I don't
Speaker 7: not that I disagree with I don't care about is
Speaker 7: I don't care about the Arizona game. Like that doesn't
Speaker 7: mean to me, because who are you chasing. You're chasing
Speaker 7: the Eagles and you're chasing the forty nine ers. They
Speaker 7: have those losses too, The Eagles lost to the Jets.
Speaker 7: You don't think that, like their fans sit there and
Speaker 7: look at that one that three game stretch that the
Speaker 7: Niners lost three in a row. I mean we're talking Cleveland, Minnesota, Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: I mean they look at that too. So every team
Speaker 7: is going to have that in a seventeen game season,
Speaker 7: You're not just gonna go down and be like, all right,
Speaker 7: who we favored against? That should be a win. That
Speaker 7: should be a win that you're gonna have a game.
Speaker 7: If it wouldn't have been Arizona would have been something else.
Speaker 7: I think the way they played against Arizona was disheartening.
Speaker 7: But then the part that really stot out from the
Speaker 7: call that hit home for me is I can't remember
Speaker 7: how we phrased it exactly, but it was about how
Speaker 7: you know something has to happen, like a big play
Speaker 7: or whatever in those games. And that is the feeling
Speaker 7: I was talking about when I was watching that Buffalo
Speaker 7: game where I was like, well, that's not happening, like nothing.
Speaker 7: And I felt the same way against San Francisco too,
Speaker 7: where you're just like, where is this spark gonna come from?
Speaker 7: And you just don't get a feeling like it's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: I remember I turned to you, I turned to you
Speaker 7: in the press box, I go, I think this is
Speaker 7: a drive Bland pick six right here. Can you just
Speaker 7: imagine if that would have happened right there, how much
Speaker 7: of a game changing like turn of events that that
Speaker 7: would have been or a big Micah Parson stripsack or
Speaker 7: something like that, or heck, just Brandon Cooks getting behind
Speaker 7: the defense, Dad hitting them. Like I just didn't feel
Speaker 7: like as that game went on, it really was in
Speaker 7: my head, I was like, how many quarters? How many
Speaker 7: quarters do you have to play before like one of
Speaker 7: those will happen? Because it just felt like it wasn't
Speaker 7: gonna it wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 8: I could be wrong, but I can't point to one
Speaker 8: play that was like big if you looked at it,
Speaker 8: if you just take it out and put it in
Speaker 8: a vacuum, I can't put I can't put point to one.
Speaker 7: The closest one that was.
Speaker 2: A good play.
Speaker 7: The closest one was was the Dac deep ball the
Speaker 7: Cooks at the beginning. Yeah, if they had that, maybe
Speaker 7: things are different. And then also the other one I
Speaker 7: will say is potentially if they get the FuMB pot
Speaker 7: that that maybe maybe that spark something. But outside of that,
Speaker 7: there weren't many plays where I was like, man, they're
Speaker 7: just on the cusp of just flipping this thing.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 6: Uh, let's go to our second call AJ in Miami.
Speaker 6: It is Miami Dolphins Week. AJ, You're on talking Cowboys
Speaker 6: what's going on going on? Guys.
Speaker 16: We're gonna be at the game this week.
Speaker 5: So hopefully we get to the juve there we go.
Speaker 16: But I've been agreeing with Isaiah since day one. Kerry
Speaker 16: Jones is not stilled that cash in our defense mean
Speaker 16: he's Jonathan Hankins. Last year I think was fand aid
Speaker 16: to the problem. We need fucking did ys and this
Speaker 16: has always been the problem with the Cowboys defense. We
Speaker 16: can't stop the run. I think Jan Gwinns deserves and
Speaker 16: heat sometimes because every time of our office he does
Speaker 16: like look lost for me personally, and I still have
Speaker 16: facing Mazie, but he doesn't freak of the problem this year.
Speaker 16: At our whole point and drafting is why are we
Speaker 16: drafting Mazie? If this is our year, this is our year,
Speaker 16: then why are we so folks about bringing in another
Speaker 16: pieces of tackles? That was my whole problem. I don't
Speaker 16: understand it. I haven't understand it. And the fact that
Speaker 16: we didn't trade for defensive tack is I think is
Speaker 16: the most concerned problem and also just a fact on
Speaker 16: top of it. I think dan Quinn's gonna say next year.
Speaker 16: I don't think he did. I think he has a
Speaker 16: good young boar defense in the Cowboys, and I don't
Speaker 16: think he's gonna leave the Charlotte, the Raiders or the Chargers.
Speaker 16: I just don't think it's gonna happen. And that's what
Speaker 16: I kind of what you guys talk about and see
Speaker 16: kind of how you feel about that.
Speaker 6: Thank you for the call, a j thank you for
Speaker 6: using clean language all the way through as well.
Speaker 5: Isaiah, what you what you got on that one? You
Speaker 5: didn't You didn't agree with that final point? Did you?
Speaker 5: Dan Quin sticking around? Yeah, we're gonna wait on the
Speaker 5: off season on that one. Yeah, we're gonna have plenty
Speaker 5: of thoughts. We'll have plenty of time.
Speaker 2: I don't think a is completely wrong there.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's completely wrong.
Speaker 9: But some jobs are just very difficult to turn down,
Speaker 9: sure when they pretty much have the same pieces in place.
Speaker 5: I mean, I also just lost sixty three fourteen. Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: leadership matter.
Speaker 7: About the Chargers. Yeah, you think you're going defense defense
Speaker 7: back to back coaches.
Speaker 5: That's what I said. I said that in the studio
Speaker 5: the other day whenever he was talking about I.
Speaker 2: Think there's a couple of jobs holding out.
Speaker 9: For and one one coach made it to a Super
Speaker 9: Bowl one coach, you were hopeful.
Speaker 7: I'm not. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm just
Speaker 7: saying there's patterns in the NFL where I can change.
Speaker 9: I hear you, But yeah, all right, I don't disagree
Speaker 9: with him on the defensive front. Obviously. I'm over here
Speaker 9: to city. I've been relatively quiet today because I've been
Speaker 9: watching film and I'm trying to figure out what Dallas
Speaker 9: is going to do to stop Miami's offense. I just
Speaker 9: can't stop thinking about it. I know we have two
Speaker 9: days to talk about it, but.
Speaker 2: I have a solution that I think could work.
Speaker 17: Points shootout shootout with Miami. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this offense
Speaker 17: is capable. I don't think you're you're looking at me
Speaker 17: like a it's an impossible task. This offense is capable.
Speaker 17: And you look at that my Miami defense. It's capable.
Speaker 17: You could, you could, you could put up points against
Speaker 17: that defense.
Speaker 8: They don't do anything that challenges Dallas that they haven't
Speaker 8: seen already.
Speaker 2: It's it's good. Yeah, get ready for a forty two
Speaker 2: thirty five type game.
Speaker 7: You say that, but last time they saw Vic Fangio defense,
Speaker 7: he'd liked to tell everybody after the game that they
Speaker 7: had the blue blueprint when he was with the Broncos.
Speaker 7: There that's the last time they faced Vic Fangio. It's
Speaker 7: honestly my biggest storyline that I'm looking forward to going
Speaker 7: into this game to see how what that is because
Speaker 7: there was a lot of history between Fangio and and
Speaker 7: and McCarthy, Green Bay, Chicago and stuff like that. They
Speaker 7: know each other very well, so it is going to
Speaker 7: be interesting for the last.
Speaker 2: Something about it this week?
Speaker 5: You think jam.
Speaker 2: I will Yeah, there you go, there you go, jam.
Speaker 5: Afraid I want to Yeah, I want to ask that question.
Speaker 6: I want I want John to get in there and
Speaker 6: we're gonna talk, We're gonna clip it, and then we're
Speaker 6: gonna play it on the show.
Speaker 5: To face the Blueprint. Yeah, that's the question.
Speaker 7: You gotta just like, well.
Speaker 5: All right, we've Mike in New York. You're on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: What's going on, Mike, what's going on? Guys?
Speaker 18: You know, we've been talking to this about this for weeks.
Speaker 18: We we just get to plan the penalties. I understand
Speaker 18: that it was a little better in this game, but
Speaker 18: come on, it's it's it's it's killing me.
Speaker 6: It's killing them, Isaiah. That's the penalties that you keep
Speaker 6: talking about.
Speaker 5: You wanted to They're they're going It's good to hear
Speaker 5: from you, Mike. They're going down now.
Speaker 9: I think that the penalties that were called outside of
Speaker 9: the Sam Williams one was trash.
Speaker 5: I think the curse penalty was trash.
Speaker 9: I think that the the law penalty was trash, like
Speaker 9: peer compost like.
Speaker 5: It was awful, and it changed the tight of the game.
Speaker 6: It really trashes Shattle's cracking the NHL teams.
Speaker 9: Okay, we'll be back, but you know, those were terrible calls,
Speaker 9: and the severity of those calls in those.
Speaker 5: Moments were severe.
Speaker 9: They were severe, and it changed how potentially how the
Speaker 9: outcome of the game would have been.
Speaker 5: It really did.
Speaker 9: But they happen, and you have to no matter how
Speaker 9: bad those situations were, you have to try to find
Speaker 9: a way to overcome it. Until your point, there was nothing,
Speaker 9: There was no mojo moment. There wasn't even any mojo
Speaker 9: to have a moment in that game on either side
Speaker 9: of the ball to really make you feel as if
Speaker 9: they had an opportunity to overcome that adversity. And that's
Speaker 9: what the you know, the previous caller was talking about
Speaker 9: in terms of they have to overcome some things if
Speaker 9: they want to be great, if they want to ascend
Speaker 9: to to the super Bowl once again, they have to
Speaker 9: overcome some of these things. Things are not going to
Speaker 9: go your way. You're going to get some trash calls.
Speaker 9: You're gonna get a little bit of hometown favorite, you know,
Speaker 9: favoritism from them, from the from the referees, and you know,
Speaker 9: you know, you don't get the fumble call. You know
Speaker 9: it should have been a fumble. It wasn't a fumble. Okay,
Speaker 9: it sucks. Okay, let's go out.
Speaker 5: There and do it again. Like that has to be
Speaker 5: your mindset. It can't be.
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that they were run around complaining, but
Speaker 9: like that, your mind can't go to that. Your mind
Speaker 9: has to immediately go to, all right, who's gonna be
Speaker 9: the next one to make that happen again, so that
Speaker 9: they can't so they can't take it away from us.
Speaker 9: You have to be anxious in that regard. So, yeah,
Speaker 9: you're going to have to overcome some things and it
Speaker 9: starts again. You know, it just resets. You just played
Speaker 9: a really good Buffalo team. We've been waiting on this
Speaker 9: part of the season all year long. When the season
Speaker 9: came out, you knew the schedule came out, You knew
Speaker 9: what this was gonna be about. You knew it regardless
Speaker 9: of all the different scenarios, playoff implications, like you knew
Speaker 9: that you were gonna be fighting for playoff spots at
Speaker 9: this time of the year against the toughest opponents.
Speaker 5: Facts, regardless of records.
Speaker 9: Buffalo Beasts, okay, dog on Miami freaking track meat okay,
Speaker 9: get ready, lace them up, getting the ice bass, do
Speaker 9: whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be running your hamstrings. Better be nice, nice
Speaker 5: and warmed up. Okay. And then Detroit they're gonna got
Speaker 5: to beat you up.
Speaker 9: You think Dan Campbell didn't just watch that game and
Speaker 9: then go back and watch the San Francisco game. Was
Speaker 9: in the Arizona games, like, oh yeah, yeah, physical, that's
Speaker 9: what we do. Yeah, knee caps, yeah, bite them off
Speaker 9: just like we just like they put Zeke.
Speaker 5: On his forehead last year. You can just spake more
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 9: So you're about to face two different challenges over the
Speaker 9: next few weeks, and then you got to close out Washington.
Speaker 9: So I mean, this is what it's about you learn
Speaker 9: about yourself. You really learn about yourself.
Speaker 5: And I think that they have to.
Speaker 9: Hopefully they took a hard look in the mirror after
Speaker 9: this most recent week, and what they saw, Okay, this
Speaker 9: is like it is like cool runnings.
Speaker 5: You know, when we made them look in the mirror,
Speaker 5: what do you see? All right?
Speaker 9: Hopefully they saw something that has that they've already seen before.
Speaker 9: And now you say, Okay, our approach to this can't
Speaker 9: be the same. It can't be the same. We have
Speaker 9: to change. We know we have a problem in our
Speaker 9: rush defense and these teams are going to be persistent
Speaker 9: in their rushing attack. What are we going to do
Speaker 9: to ensure that it doesn't happen again? And Miami presents
Speaker 9: a huge problem because I can't play single high.
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 9: I literally can't play single high. But I can't play
Speaker 9: too high either, So what the heck do I do?
Speaker 9: That's the challenge with Miami because if you want to
Speaker 9: go single high and play man and man coverage like
Speaker 9: you do ninety percent of the time, you don't have
Speaker 9: the guys to run with him.
Speaker 5: You legit don't have the guys run with them.
Speaker 2: I was just about to say you can't run man.
Speaker 5: No, you can't run man.
Speaker 9: But if you go too high, you're playing against his
Speaker 9: second best running team in the league.
Speaker 2: It's tough, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So like, so, like, what is your approach?
Speaker 7: Like they're undefeated or something.
Speaker 9: It's not about this about what I'm seeing on film.
Speaker 9: It's about what I'm seeing on film. I already started
Speaker 9: early because I knew there's a lot of offense to digest.
Speaker 5: Which games you did you watch?
Speaker 9: I'm only on the Tennessee game right now. Okay, that's
Speaker 9: only again I've watched so far. But like they are
Speaker 9: zero and three against teams above five hunts.
Speaker 2: I hear you.
Speaker 5: I hear you.
Speaker 8: If they're kept underneath and Tua is forced to go
Speaker 8: away from his first read, things get difficult for them.
Speaker 8: That that's that's the solution there, and then defensively, will.
Speaker 5: Keeping them underneath?
Speaker 8: I don't think so, because I Tua has not been
Speaker 8: playing well in the last few weeks. Fact, and if
Speaker 8: you can keep him underneath, and it's about keeping him underneath,
Speaker 8: not really because the weapons will get over the top.
Speaker 2: It's about keeping Tua underneath.
Speaker 9: I'm more concerned with the mind of the Cowboys, Like
Speaker 9: I'm dead serious, Like their ability to overcome big plays.
Speaker 9: Seattle game proved a lot to me because they were
Speaker 9: able to overcome the.
Speaker 5: DK Metcalf play. Yeah, the seventy three they were able
Speaker 5: to overcome that.
Speaker 3: That was huge.
Speaker 7: But in terms of got a factor in that, this
Speaker 7: team's been really good after a loss, Like you can't
Speaker 7: just sit here there and take that, Hey, what we
Speaker 7: saw against Buffalo and what we saw against San Francesco's
Speaker 7: gonna be the same here. You're just gonna see there's
Speaker 7: just like little things that like, yes, the score is
Speaker 7: thirty one to ten and thirty one to three, but
Speaker 7: it's little things of just like how you could just
Speaker 7: tell Buffalo wanted that game more absolutely, just like you
Speaker 7: could tell the Cowboys wanted that game a lot more
Speaker 7: than the Eagles did the week before that absolutly three
Speaker 7: fumble recoveries, like there was just like you're just playing
Speaker 7: the just that that little bit of advicense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mindset.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying is I'm worried about their.
Speaker 9: Mindset and the way that they overcame Seattle. That Seattle's
Speaker 9: one big play. There's gonna be multiple plays like that
Speaker 9: most likely. Yeah, So how do you bounce back? Do
Speaker 9: you bounce back multiple times within one game? That's my question.
Speaker 9: I think they've done against Seattle. Seattle did that was
Speaker 9: that game? That game was back and forth all the
Speaker 9: way through. There were big plays on both sides of it.
Speaker 6: I mean you think about the pass interference penalty, the
Speaker 6: Jackson Smith and Jigbu in the end zone, and then
Speaker 6: they score off of the next play, and then there's
Speaker 6: all these different elements to it as well. They bounce
Speaker 6: back at a game like that previously, but that was
Speaker 6: at home. Now you got to do it on the road.
Speaker 7: The Cowboys did not like it. Back to bad games
Speaker 7: since yeah, twenty twenty one when they obviously that COVID
Speaker 7: was going on, where Amari Cooper was out when they
Speaker 7: lost the Kansas City and then the Raiders in overtime
Speaker 7: on Thanksgiving. So speaking, I got to give them the
Speaker 7: benefit of the doubt for that. It's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I don't take that statistic into into account.
Speaker 5: I really don't.
Speaker 7: I mean, you have to at least a little bit, Okay, I.
Speaker 9: Can't a little bit in terms there's history there but
Speaker 9: I look at matchups. Yeah, that's what I care about. Sure,
Speaker 9: I care about matchups. I hear about the pass and
Speaker 9: auto stuff, but I'm looking at matchups. So if you're
Speaker 9: gonna play man to man primarily, even if he plays
Speaker 9: seventy percent man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, how so, what I'm saying is that I agree
Speaker 7: with where you're coming from. It is a bad matchup
Speaker 7: and it would not surprise me if the Dolphins win.
Speaker 7: What I'm saying, though, is you will not see that
Speaker 7: same thing that we saw. It's Butffler's sampasi.
Speaker 5: I agree with you.
Speaker 6: I agree with you. All Right, we got to take
Speaker 6: our second break. When we come back, we've got one
Speaker 6: more phone call, and we've got a draft question on
Speaker 6: the horizon.
Speaker 5: We've got some draft insight.
Speaker 6: When we come back with more from talking cowboys, don't
Speaker 6: let me find out.
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Speaker 6: Back here on Talking Cowboys. This portion of the show
Speaker 6: is brought to you by Quaker Oats. We've got Isaiah
Speaker 6: stand back, John Machoda, Nick Harris and Chris Beam.
Speaker 5: In the back. You have your oaths. I did. I
Speaker 5: had my oats this morning as always.
Speaker 6: All right, Uh, we got a question from the six '
Speaker 6: oh one Kyle who is a power five, three hundred
Speaker 6: pound defensive tackle to watch in the college bowl games.
Speaker 6: I don't know how many you're going to get to
Speaker 6: watch the college bowl games. Let me be real, if
Speaker 6: they are first round, second round talents, they're probably not
Speaker 6: going to play in the bowl games. I will say,
Speaker 6: if you want to go back and watch some guys,
Speaker 6: I've got three names for you, Mason Smith out of LSU,
Speaker 6: Leonard Taylor from Miami, and then the one guy I
Speaker 6: think you would really want to take a look at,
Speaker 6: plays down the road down I thirty five in Austin
Speaker 6: to Andre Sweat.
Speaker 5: He'll play in the bowl game.
Speaker 6: So there you go. There's the one that I've got
Speaker 6: to keep an eye on. Six foot four, three and
Speaker 6: sixty two pounds defensive tackle who stepped up in a
Speaker 6: big way as a senior, and man, he is a
Speaker 6: fun watch and he is going to absolutely wreck Washington.
Speaker 6: Wreck Washington, and he's going to be a He's going
Speaker 6: to be a wrecking ball himself.
Speaker 5: I don't know if Washington's going to lose that game, forget.
Speaker 6: I think Washington might win that game because I love
Speaker 6: Michael Pennix but junior.
Speaker 5: Yes, but to and Andre Sweat as a dog.
Speaker 8: It's not the only Day two defensive tackle that Texas
Speaker 8: has too. They have Byron Murphy from De Soto. It
Speaker 8: looks like he's gonna come out early and play. He's
Speaker 8: a junior, but it looks like he'll come out and
Speaker 8: participate in the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: He got an invite as a junior.
Speaker 5: Nice, So that's.
Speaker 8: Another one to keep an eye on. You also got
Speaker 8: Chris Jenkins on Michigan that'll be playing in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: I didn't I left him out on purpose. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: didn't want to talk a Michigan tackle.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm a little I'm still id that. Oh my god.
Speaker 7: You're not supposed to defensive taco as well.
Speaker 5: Damn, that's true. That's true. You're not supposed to scout
Speaker 5: the helmet. You're supposed to scout the player.
Speaker 2: They also have a defensive end named Burrito.
Speaker 5: That is it. No, I got it. I was like,
Speaker 5: no way, Yeah, I was gullible on that one. Sorry.
Speaker 7: I wonder what major college football program has been the
Speaker 7: biggest disappointment for the Cowboys in terms of drafting.
Speaker 5: And that you you'd have to go all the way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I mean right now, recently it's
Speaker 6: been Michigan.
Speaker 5: Uh, I would.
Speaker 8: Have to like pull Mickey Specknola away for like three
Speaker 8: hours and we have to dive through draft classes all
Speaker 8: the way back to like when the drafts.
Speaker 6: Did you say, LSU has there been really? I mean,
Speaker 6: I know de Moone Clark's playing well now.
Speaker 5: But like I well can flip it.
Speaker 7: What's been the best?
Speaker 6: Uh, that's a good one. Alabama's been pretty good recently.
Speaker 2: So we're here.
Speaker 6: These oats college scouting that's about say, NFL Draft isn't
Speaker 6: your thing? You just tell that you tell us which
Speaker 6: players we go find. I tell you what I see,
Speaker 6: tell you what you want, and then we go.
Speaker 8: I tell you what has been going to the Cowboys
Speaker 8: group of five scouting. Typically when they go for a
Speaker 8: group of five guys, they hit they recently.
Speaker 6: So yeah, first one that comes to mind there is
Speaker 6: the Ron Blant Smith Tyler Smith. All right, Brian in
Speaker 6: Kansas City, you're on Talking Cowboys our final call today, Brian.
Speaker 5: What's going on? Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning.
Speaker 15: You know, so they made a big deal in the
Speaker 15: broadcast of uh, the differential of Dak's rating between home
Speaker 15: and away, and obviously our record kind of reflects that.
Speaker 15: I'm just wondering. From a guy a guy, I'm just
Speaker 15: a fan. You know what Brian brought us would call
Speaker 15: Joe and flower mound. You know, I'm the guy that
Speaker 15: you know, I watch a TV broadcast. I don't go
Speaker 15: back and watch all the scouting tapes and the all
Speaker 15: twenty two. Can you guys pick up any difference? What
Speaker 15: does he do that's so different? They said his difference
Speaker 15: was something in the neighborhood of thirty five points and
Speaker 15: it was the biggest difference in the NFL. And I'll
Speaker 15: hang up and listen, y'all have a great day.
Speaker 5: What do you think?
Speaker 9: Yeah, one twenty two point five versus eighty eight point eight,
Speaker 9: and that was going into the game, That was going
Speaker 9: into the Yeah, I don't know. I don't have an
Speaker 9: answer for you.
Speaker 7: I think he just in a routine at home.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's when he wakes up, who
Speaker 7: he's with, the rout he takes to the stadium, to
Speaker 7: what he does in the locker room before, to where
Speaker 7: he warms up to just knowing where he has to
Speaker 7: go I just think that his routine at home is
Speaker 7: he's got it down, and I think that because of that,
Speaker 7: I think maybe that on the road, it just it
Speaker 7: just takes you a little bit out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 7: And maybe that factors in there, because it's been tough
Speaker 7: to even just come up with an answer why the
Speaker 7: whole team has been so good at home. I mean,
Speaker 7: let's be honest.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, so we've asked that question almost after
Speaker 6: every home yek, what's the difference here?
Speaker 7: Thought about it a little bit last night, you know,
Speaker 7: watching Seattle, like there's just everybody knows about that home
Speaker 7: field advantage that Seattle has, and they've had it for
Speaker 7: a long period of time. That really just hasn't been
Speaker 7: the case in Dallas, and all of a sudden, it
Speaker 7: just like at home, they're just they play with so
Speaker 7: much more confidence and energy as well. So I don't know,
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, and then once you have that, the
Speaker 7: crowd feeds into it and everything adds to it. But
Speaker 7: even on the crowd thing, if you make enough plays
Speaker 7: and you're a Dallas cowboy on the road, you will
Speaker 7: hear the crowd. Yep, they bring fans everywhere, So I
Speaker 7: don't know, I just think he's more comfortable in his
Speaker 7: home setting. I guess that's the only thing I come
Speaker 7: up with.
Speaker 8: Yeah, why not, right, the way they've been playing at home,
Speaker 8: So I'm with it.
Speaker 5: I'm with it as well. All right.
Speaker 6: That does it for us here on a Talking Tuesday.
Speaker 6: Appreciate all the calls from you Talking Cowboys Nation.
Speaker 5: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna break.
Speaker 6: Down the Cowboys def events versus that speed of the
Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins offense and what that Week sixteen matchup is
Speaker 6: gonna look like.
Speaker 5: Uh oh oh, We've got.
Speaker 6: A little showdown Texas Washington. We'll see how this goes
Speaker 6: down the stretch. There was one from Abe in the
Speaker 6: seven oh two. He said, uh, Texas will win the Natty.
Speaker 5: That's interesting. Some hot sauce on it, that's what he said.
Speaker 5: Are we it's.
Speaker 2: Already made that, But you gotta think of something else,
Speaker 2: be original, somebody, so.
Speaker 5: One of my boys. Anyway, we don't have time to
Speaker 5: go all right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's get out of here for Isaiah's stanback for
Speaker 6: John mitshow to Nick Harris, Chris Beam in the backup,
Speaker 6: Kyle Yeomen saying, so long from Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: We'll see you tomorrow.
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