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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb stops by for good twenty thirty minute chats

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Speaker 1: win over the Miami Heat. You know, my takeaway is

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Speaker 1: I felt like Boston was the better team. Every single

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Speaker 1: one of their starters got a vote for All Defense.

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Speaker 1: They did something well. Miami doesn't do anything particularly well.

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Speaker 1: They're a very good defensive team, but Tyler Hero's not,

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Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson's not. They don't have a second real score.

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Speaker 1: A lot of this success has built on playing well

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Speaker 1: at home. Great coach, excellent culture, and Jimmy Butler's a

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Speaker 1: complete baller, but in the end, they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: dependable second score, and once Tyler, hero six Man of

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Speaker 1: the Year, has a groin issue, it felt like the

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Speaker 1: team never had the offensive firepower. I thought Friday as

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Speaker 1: an eight and a half eight point favorite, Boston losing

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Speaker 1: think it points out what Boston is. They're not a

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Speaker 1: great team. As I was watching this tonight, when Boston

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Speaker 1: goes on their runs, great teams Jordan's Bulls, the Showtime Lakers,

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Speaker 1: the shot co Be Lakers, the Durant Warriors, the Heatles.

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Speaker 1: When great teams go on these NBA runs sixteen to

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Speaker 1: five point lead becomes twenty, you know Boston can dominate

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Speaker 1: you because they're so capable defensively. They can dominate you

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Speaker 1: for seven minutes over half a quarter, and they go

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Speaker 1: on to tend two run Because if Tatum's not hot,

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Speaker 1: you have to depend on Jalen Brown. Marcus Smart was

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Speaker 1: very good offensively in this game, but that's a dicey proposition.

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Speaker 1: He's a great defensive player. He's a hit and miss

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Speaker 1: Tonight and in Game two. Boston wins the game and

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Speaker 1: have four against the Warriors. And that's why Golden State

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Speaker 1: likely wins the series. They just have far more players

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Speaker 1: capable of dropping twenty to twenty four points. But Boston's

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Speaker 1: one of those teams. They're not a team. They're a

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Speaker 1: good team. They do something really well defensive lead, they're very,

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Speaker 1: the NBA. I think the phoenix and blowouts. Once you

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Speaker 1: get to the postseason, better coaching, better teams. You know,

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Speaker 1: Boston can win games, they can control games, but it

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Speaker 1: It's not a score, especially when Robert Williams is on

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Speaker 1: he's not a great offensive player. He's just he's just

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Speaker 1: Marcus Smart to give him buckets, right, that's what they need.

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Speaker 1: really a telling part of who's going to win playoff

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Speaker 1: I'm still shocked Ball lost game six. Lowry looks washed,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's got an inflammation. They can't have certain you can't

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Speaker 1: pretty good job. They were clearly hunting Max Strews. They're late.

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Speaker 1: The way Boston plays is basically the way that almost

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Speaker 1: is really about are you coachable? Do you care? You know,

425
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Speaker 1: it felt like when I was growing up, like if

426
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Speaker 1: you were the big guy, you were just in the

427
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: league and you were a center, and the small guys

428
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: didn't shoot, they distributed, and then it was a couple

429
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: of wing guys. It feels like everybody now and defend

430
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: multiple positions. Everybody can kind of shoot. The international guys

431
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: are now not soft, the domestic guys are more skilled.

432
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Speaker 1: It's it's and I think what I mean, I'm just

433
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: throwing this out there. Um, it's just a glut of

434
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: really athletic everybody's a little harder, everybody's a little more skilled,

435
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: and the difference is coachability and toughness, like you're the

436
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: small school guys comes and it's it's honestly, it's a

437
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: really good because what's changed with Boston is you know, yeah,

438
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if Brad's ever said it publicly.

439
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: I know he said it privately that those guys just

440
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: stop listening to him. You know, I think the Gordon

441
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: Hayward thing didn't work out well in that locker room. Um,

442
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Brown was a tough one for a

443
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: while to coach. Um. But first you gotta credit Emay

444
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: coming in. He's a he's that, he's that same kind

445
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: of guy, right like Portland State made it to the league,

446
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: right then starts out bottom of the bottom of the

447
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: pecking order. It works as way up as an assistant

448
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: to becoming a head coach. But those guys credit Boston.

449
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: They've shown that, they've shown the ability be coachable. Yeah.

450
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Marcus Mark called called both of them

451
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: out early in the year for being selfish not playing defense,

452
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: and you know what, they're less selfish and they're playing defense.

453
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: Not Jason TAM's not a great defender, he's not Michael

454
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: Cooper locking dude's down, but he's he's palatable. And Jalen

455
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: Brown's a good toil plus defender and much more of

456
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: a willing pass or. They're trusting their teammates more. And

457
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: then Golden State, I think that's the that's the whole thing.

458
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: You have a coach who they like, Um, who who

459
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: has created a style in a system and a culture

460
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: that fits them. But you also have superstars who are

461
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: just different. Male Clay rides his ebike to work, right, right,

462
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: All these other dudes are hopping out of Lambo's doing

463
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: the doing the catwalk in some ridiculous outfit, wearing a

464
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: skirt into the arena, and Clay's coming in on an

465
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Speaker 1: ebike and you know, in steps wearing his sweats and

466
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 1: some you know, he might as well be wearing hoop shorts,

467
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, and a hoodie coming in, just just going

468
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: into hoop. Right. So I do think culture coachability and

469
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,239
Speaker 1: the coaches themselves and what they've been able to, what

470
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: they were able to do, and you know, you know,

471
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, like, please don't tell me you need

472
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: head coaching experience. Teamy doesn't have it, Steve Kurt didn't

473
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: have it. He never coached in his life. Right, Either,

474
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: you can relate to those guys, You can put him

475
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: in a system, You can create a staff that knows

476
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: what you don't know, or you can't. And then you

477
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: have to have the players. But you have to have

478
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: the players play in a way which is conducive to

479
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: him and then they basically have to buy in. And

480
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: the Boston guys coach build is a big thing. Those

481
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: guys bought into email. It wasn't right away, like, let's

482
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: not they struggle. First half of season was a disaster,

483
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: right bad, not good. But at some point there was

484
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: a tipping and I think it was when Marcus called

485
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: him out, you know, And look, Marcus isn't for everybody.

486
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: But I said this, and I don't know if you agreed.

487
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: You look at any great team, they all have that

488
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: one guy who he's just an asshole. But you have

489
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: you have to have a one asshole policy, right, Like

490
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: you can have multiple guys, but that's that one guy

491
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: who everybody, somebody on their team wants to fight him

492
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: every game. That's Marcus Smart, that's Draymond Green. Like there's

493
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: no great team that doesn't have at least one and

494
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: some other guys kind of take on that, take on

495
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: that kind of personality. But they're willing to take the booze,

496
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: They're willing to take the elbows, They're willing to dive

497
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: on the floor, They're willing to get called out for flopping.

498
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: They're willing to start a fight with somebody, you know,

499
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: their game's not pretty, but they just kind of and

500
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart as that guy. He's their Draymond Green. He

501
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: just Scoors a little bit better. He's obvious a little

502
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: bit smaller, but I think that that stirs the drink,

503
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: and he started to drink for that team when they

504
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: were bad, and obviously now when he can score. And

505
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: let's not forget the biggest play he made in the

506
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: playoffs was to pass against the Nets Game one, when

507
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: everybody in the world thought he was gonna shoot. He

508
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: shot baked and throw it to Tatum cutting right, and

509
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: that's that kind of end of the series in game one.

510
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: So but I think coachability is big, and I think

511
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: toughness is big, and then you have to add that

512
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: one guy who can take all the take all the

513
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: grief from the opposing fans and the opposing team. Well,

514
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: we were talking. I was at a party tonight, like

515
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: you're a party. I was at a party and one

516
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: of the kids said, he asked me, He said, is

517
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart a top thirty five player? And I said,

518
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: because he was played when he's offensively, when he has

519
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: good offensive nights, he's really a valuable player. And we

520
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: were saying, you know, we all know the top six

521
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: seven players, but if you count like the ability to

522
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: call out players, and Marcus now has been in a

523
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: lot of playoff games with these guys, and when he

524
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: almost made he got fouled by I think it was

525
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler underneath and he tried to flip it up

526
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: and it almost went in. And I'm like, when he

527
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: came into this league, Doug, that's those first two years, man,

528
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: he was rough from the perimeter, Like it was rough,

529
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: and You're like, is this Ricky Rubio with defense? Like

530
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: he just will never shoot the ball. But I watched

531
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart and I'm like, there are nights like he

532
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: feels like he's kind of the heartbeat of the team

533
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: for them. Well, here's here's the here's the here's the question.

534
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: To you have, Okay, Kyrie Irving is a better basketball

535
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: player by far, right, in arguably, in arguably, but who

536
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: would you rather have in your point Marcus Smart? Absolutely

537
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: not even close? Right, So it's the that's the problem

538
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: with the rankings is you know, it's like I saw

539
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: I saw Nick Wrights rankings, right, and he's got a

540
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that scored a lot of points. George Gervin,

541
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: George Gerb never won shit, you know, Kara, he didn't

542
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: never won anything, right, Like I want somebody who wants

543
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: to who can win. There's a week, there's a score

544
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Every basketball game has a scoreboard. That's who. That's how

545
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: you actually decide who's better. And it's not because he's

546
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: an Oklahoma mistake guy. It's because he's Marcus Smart. Like

547
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: that's the guy on my pup tent. Right, same thing

548
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: with Draymond Green. Like Draymond Green can't shoot. You know,

549
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: he hit three in that last series, right, and he

550
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I can't believe I forgot

551
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Draymond actually ever shoots the basketball. Yeah. But and I

552
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: don't think if Draymond, if you say, hey Draymond, let's

553
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: give you the max contract, put him on your own team, Like,

554
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they win. I don't think it's great.

555
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: But in that role, that's the old star in that role,

556
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: he is it replaced. He's a Hall of Fame player

557
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: in that role. And he can't shoot, he can't score

558
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: in the post. Right. He's a good pastor, but he's

559
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: made a better pastor because you give him so much

560
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: space because he can't shoot, and he can defend all

561
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: five positions. He's willing to take all the greef from

562
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: any any opposing team doesn't care. Right, those guys are irreplaceable,

563
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: So are they in reality? A top thirty five player.

564
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Like if you're play on one on one or if

565
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: you need to get a and you need guys to

566
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: get buckets. Tallet's not underestimated, right. You need a guy

567
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: who's just like, hey, dude, that's what Miami just does.

568
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Needs one more like bucket getter that can play a

569
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: little bit of defense, but not top thirty five in

570
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: terms of talent. But I would much rather have that

571
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: guy because not just on a Wednesday night in Minneapolis,

572
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: is he gonna come up and play when I'm not

573
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: sure if Kyrie is, but that toughness, that fifty balls

574
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: he gets him, you know, and then he finds a

575
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: way to make a damn shot when you need to

576
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: make a shot. Yeah, And those are he's not a

577
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: top thirty five player, but he's a top thirty five competitor.

578
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: And those are the guys who likes you winning more games.

579
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: And I thought that's the whole object of the deal,

580
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, whin ugly is better than losing pretty any

581
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: day of the week. All Right, finally, two minutes, Darvin

582
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Ham Lakers, how's it land for you? It lands like

583
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: a win for the old guard a little bit, right,

584
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: Like the easy thing would have been to do, like,

585
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: let's just hire somebody Lebron's happy with and see what

586
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: we can do. You know, I mean, Darwin's a respected dude.

587
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: He's a good dude. He is he's like emay he'll

588
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: because he's as big as he is, he can look

589
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: you right in the eye. I again, I don't know

590
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: if he's the captain of the Titanic. This whole idea

591
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: of Russell Westbrook was used the way you're going to

592
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: reinvent Russell Westbrook. Right, he's the most stubborn player in

593
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: the league. Well it's not just that, like like it

594
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: just if we take Carmelo Anthony right, Like Carmelo Anthony

595
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: was out of the league and he reinvented himself in

596
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: this three point shooter, which is great for him. But

597
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Portling got worse, right, the Lakers were even worse. And

598
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: if I have nothing, I have no fun. I mean, like, look,

599
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: he has created a niche for himself, and at least

600
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: Carmelo is well liked, like Russell Westbrook was a bad

601
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: teammate last year. So I don't know what. I don't

602
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: know what you do with that state Burger Now, if

603
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: they can figure out a way to get him off

604
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: their roster, he's got a chance. But I like it

605
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: for it's not the classic cliche, get the retread. I

606
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: like Doc, but I don't know how Doc would have

607
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: fixed this thing. It's a new ideas, fresh ideas. He's

608
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: a respected dude, he's been around the league, he's in Milwaukee.

609
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: He understand stood what they created in Milwaukee. But I

610
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: don't think he's tied to any sort of book of

611
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: way to do it. I like it, but I think

612
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: it's a win for Rambus and a win for that

613
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: kind of old guard that they want everybody over and

614
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: decide this is what we're gonna do. I don't know.

615
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I think feels like a mess, you know, it just does.

616
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like that house. It feels

617
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: like that house where you're like, you know, it could

618
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: have been really amazing, right, somebody somebody got a house,

619
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: perfect location right, and a great big old footprint and

620
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: they came in, and then all of a sudden, the

621
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: guy who's doing it got this other contractor, and then

622
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: another contractor and then another contractor, and there's all these

623
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: different styles. You're like, what is the theme here? It's

624
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: not fung shui. They shoot it up. There's different styles, like,

625
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, and so then you

626
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: look at it like it's something. So that's what they got, right,

627
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: You got like Lebron, but he's thirty eight. Got Anythony Davis?

628
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: Is anybody gonna tell him to get his ass in

629
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: shape and start eating right and taking care of his body?

630
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. What are you gonna do with Westbrook?

631
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: A You're gonna take on John wall Right? Is that

632
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: really gonna happen? I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

633
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean maybe they can fix it. But and and

634
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: everybody's got blood in their hands, right, Polinka Blinka could

635
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: have had Lowry didn't do it, obviously, could have had Caruso.

636
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: Caruso would have taken less and that was a disaster.

637
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: And me, he screwed that thing up. But then Lebron

638
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: with the Westbrook thing and having to have Carmelo, like

639
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: that's bad. So I like the idea of Darvin him,

640
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: but I kind of think he's the newest contractor and

641
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: he walks in, he's like it's Lebron, but it's you know,

642
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: end of the road. Like here's the question. They just

643
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: did this with Kobe Bryant. Are they really going to

644
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: go like, hey, let's just ride this thing out with

645
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Are they gonna give him a new deal?

646
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna ride it out? Like we know how it ends.

647
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't end well, never ends well. I know, right,

648
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: it just doesn't not in the NBA. It's not like

649
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: it sound like football, where Payton Manning cannot throw a football,

650
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: take the second half of the season off and come

651
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: in and the defense carries you to a champions like

652
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: you can't. Like Lebron has to have the ball to

653
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: be Lebron, I don't know. And he's only given you

654
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: fifty six games a year the last three years, so

655
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: like that's what he is. Yeah, we have to come

656
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: to terms with you know. It's like Kurt Schilling once

657
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: told me. He said, at the end of his career,

658
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: he goes, I had twelve great fastballs and I wasn't

659
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: going to throw him in the first three innings, so

660
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: he like, I just kept those for punch outs in

661
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: the sixth, Like that's what I had left. And it's

662
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: like Lebron's got about fifty games a year now in

663
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: the regular season. Well that would be great if Anthony

664
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: Davis gave you more than sixty, right, So like you

665
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: just who's gonna score when Lebron an a d year out,

666
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: Like you just you're just gonna lose twenty games next

667
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: year because of that. Well the other part two it

668
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: is okay. So I think that was the thinking with Westbrook,

669
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: which is like, hey, when Lebrons not playing, Westbrook kind

670
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: of takes over heat carry us. Well one, not that

671
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: guy anymore. Right, he's had four knee surgeries. He doesn't

672
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: defend nearly like his reputation. His shooting got worse, I

673
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: mean just incredibly erratic, and it was it was tough,

674
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: but also like they're gonna have to recreate that team again.

675
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: They keep every year, there's like eight nine new guys.

676
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: So again we started talking about the Boston Celtics and

677
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: how they've been here before, Like, yes, they're really really young,

678
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: but Tatum has been in the Eastern Conference Finals before.

679
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: Marcus smart. You know, they everybody but what Grant Williams

680
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: and Robert Williams has has been there been in Boston

681
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs, not in the NBA finals before.

682
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: So they have culture there, right, And yes, Jordan Pool

683
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: is new to this, and Andrew Wiggins has new this,

684
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: but they have culture there, you know the heat. They

685
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: have culture there. You have guys that are that have

686
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: been around for a while. That's why they keep you down,

687
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: as has them in the uniform, not because he can play,

688
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: because they need those consistent voices. You know, hard it

689
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: is to do that when your star is not gonna

690
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: play eighty two, your other star is not gonna play

691
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: eighty two, and the guy that plays eighty two is

692
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: hard to play with. And then everybody else is new.

693
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: So you're like, well, we're just gonna We're just gonna

694
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: do the lake away. What's the lake Away changes every year?

695
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: I know, you know. So it's it's it's hard, It's

696
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna be really hard. And then the West should be better, right,

697
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray should be back. I would guess Dallas to

698
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: be better. Um uh, you know, I think I think

699
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: there's some other I think New Orleans is coming on strong. Yeah,

700
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think that the Clippers will be back

701
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: next year, so they could be better and still be

702
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: down at the bottom of the West, and then you

703
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: got to fight your way through the playoffs. I don't

704
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't see it. Let me see it, got label.

705
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: We'll go back to your party, your kids party. Uh yeah,

706
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: it's my basketball team. Where in a tournament this week?

707
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Go join? No, listen, it's okay. You come down to

708
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Newport Beach, you tweet out that you had lunch, and

709
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: then I text you like, hey, bro, how about a

710
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: heads up? Like, oh, it's just in and out, Like

711
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: come on, man, you know I literally live a probably

712
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: an ebike ride ebike. Have you gotten your ebike yet? Well? Um,

713
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: I have two ebikes in Utah because we have space.

714
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: So they're unbelievable. They're unbelievable. I mean, yes, space. Everybody

715
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: you live in like sam Monica, Redwood Palisades, whatever, all

716
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: the where the rich people live. Everybody else in the

717
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: beach towns has EBIs. It's like a like you go

718
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: down to the beach and you look and you're like,

719
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: there's one hundred thousand dollars ebike. T It's crazy. That's

720
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: the industry. We should have gotten in on you're selling hamburgers.

721
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: We should have been selling ebikes like five years. And

722
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: I know that. I'll tell you this, like Anna and

723
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: I and she's not somebody that would bike a lot

724
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: those things. You can bike for two hours on an

725
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: ee bike. Just just have the greatest two because they're mopits.

726
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: They're cool mopens, right. We all know the moped joke, though,

727
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: what do I'll tell it off air not you know,

728
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: I know it's your podcast, but we all know there's

729
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: plenty of moped jokes. They're like really cool mopens that

730
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: everybody loves now, yes, and you can pedal and you

731
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: can do some get a little exercise with them. They're amazing.

732
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: How do you How are you not ahead of that industry?

733
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: You've been ahead of all the other ones. How'd you know?

734
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: I didn't get the text. I didn't get the text

735
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: from calhard like we need to get it. We need

736
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: to start an ebyke heard eby by the way, I

737
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: will say this is I don't understand NFTs and I know,

738
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: and I've had people explain it to me and go like, no,

739
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: still don't get it, dude. Web three, I get cryptocurrency,

740
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: but it's still unregulated currency. I'm not in on it.

741
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: I understand the metaverse. I want no part of it,

742
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: but I will. I will say this when I went.

743
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: I went with Anne for eight nine days in Italy,

744
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: and I said, I'm happiest when my life is simple.

745
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: And it was walking, drinking wine, eating and laughing. We

746
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: have I told her we were flying back like we

747
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: have so many new things in America. The downside to

748
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: being such a tech leader. I got thirty passwords, nine codes.

749
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, you go to Europe and they're just they

750
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: get up at nine, they have long lunches, everybody's happy.

751
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: It's like the quality of life. It's just a simpler way.

752
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think we're just too complicated. There's just too

753
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: much shit. Yeah. The only problem with it is I'm

754
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: not sure if our jobs would exist in those cultures, right,

755
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: they would not. Like they talk about soccer a lot,

756
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: but I don't think anybody makes a make talking about soccer.

757
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: There's no is there a soccer podcast network in Europe

758
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: that's just killing it, don't think so? And they love it,

759
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: so I hear you. But I do appreciate all the

760
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: stuff that we have are also devices where we can

761
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: send you all of our nons sense talk about the

762
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: sports that we love and the ebytes that we bought,

763
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: and then the NFTs that we don't understand, right like this, Actually,

764
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: so you're right, but we wouldn't be us and have

765
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: the ability to just chill if we didn't live in

766
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: the States and make what you make a little bit

767
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: different level than me. But we didn't make what we make.

768
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: As for the NFT thing, like, I don't understand this

769
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: idea of selling it's a one of one, Like, all right,

770
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: congratulate like that what I don't get the metaverse? The

771
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: metaverse has unlimited resources, unlimited space, so by real estate,

772
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, the whole idea of real estate

773
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: is there's a limited amount of space in beach towns

774
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: right in California. Right, so if you have that, we

775
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: own that. It's tangible. In the metaverse right now, there's

776
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: an amount of space. But then they're going to create

777
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: more space. Well how do I know that? Because my

778
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: iPhone now has like is it one t right? It

779
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: used to be gigabytes Now it's a triggabyte or something

780
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: like that or whatever it is. They just create some

781
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: new chip that has more space. So yeah, I'm out

782
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: on that stuff. And I know people are gonna get

783
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: rich and tell us so were idiots on all this stuff.

784
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: But I can get rich on something that I have

785
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: to be able to understand, so I can explain something. Yeah,

786
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: I got rich on something, or I lost money on something,

787
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: but let me tell you why I got rich I

788
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: lost money. Yeah, I mean, first of all, the whole

789
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: thing about getting rich, I'm not going to retire that

790
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: early because I'll be honest with you. Days or long.

791
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: I sleep seven hours a day. I always use I

792
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: always use this theory. I work out for an hour,

793
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: I read for an hour and a half, I sleep

794
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: for seven. Let's say I eat for two I'm at

795
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: like ten twelve hours. If I didn't work, what do

796
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: I do for the other twelve Well that's why we

797
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: have the greatest jobs ever. I know we always talk

798
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: about sports and stikes ses, what do we What would

799
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: you do? I don't know. I had that. I had

800
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: a I had like twenty months, was it? It was

801
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: like five months between ESPN and CBS when I had Yeah,

802
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: I had a non compete. I was a mess. I

803
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I went and did cross fit

804
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: and the guy kept calling me Mark. So then I

805
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: started writing my name down It's Mark. For a while,

806
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what to do with myself. This

807
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: is my outlet. My job is my eye. So yeah,

808
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean I don't understand those people are like, mom,

809
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: my job doesn't define me mine does. I like to

810
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: talk and I like to talk about sports and sometimes

811
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: with their livestops. Yeah yeah, I mean it's and it's

812
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: funny is if I if I didn't do this, I

813
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: like sports too, but I wouldn't watch as much sports.

814
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: There are times I'll watch a college football game knowing

815
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: I got to talk about this, I wouldn't watch the

816
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: red zone. I picked two games and watch them. So no,

817
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: I there's no way you wouldn't watch the red zone.

818
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: Red zones created for people like us. We got that eight,

819
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: We got that functioning add where you're like, I can't

820
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: watch this one. I literally Sunday, I sit there with

821
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: a notepad and I'm like, I know, I wouldn't do that.

822
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: If I didn't do this, I wouldn't have a notepad

823
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: and write notes for hours. Maybe not a notepad, but

824
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: you still, it's the best. It's the best, Like you're

825
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: actually making me jones for football while I'm watching it.

826
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: That was a great bass. That was a really good bat.

827
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: I don't know a great basketball game. That was a

828
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: really good Oh, it was fun. It was great. You know,

829
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: did you think Miami was gonna win? Did you think

830
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: Minami was gonna win? No? I thought Friday night was

831
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: one of the shocking outcome. I mean, first of all,

832
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: when Dallas beat Phoenix by fifty, You're like, what what

833
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: the f is that? But that was amazing. They had

834
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: twenty seven at a half. I mean you imagine going

835
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: to the locker room and look at the statue, like,

836
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: but the fact that Boston a great home team, eight

837
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite, and I never felt they

838
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: were gonna win that game. They were down like eight seven,

839
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: six five, and they just couldn't make stops. And I'm like, yeah,

840
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Mimmy's a better team. That was a jaw dropping outcome.

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Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself, but yet today, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have bet today because the series is to schizophrenic.

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Speaker 1: But I did feel very early, like I always feel

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Speaker 1: like if if Boston's if Marcus Smart gets into the

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Speaker 1: offense early, he tends to be a momentum player. He's

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Speaker 1: not gifted offensively. If he gets into it early, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be really good tonight. And generally he's not

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Speaker 1: one of these guys that would go three quarters not

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Speaker 1: scoring in a big fourth, like if he's if he's activated,

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Speaker 1: he's into it for the game, I know. But they

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Speaker 1: just at the end there, they're missing layups and getting

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Speaker 1: shots blocked and then giving up layups the other and

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Speaker 1: then Strews throwing that big three, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: holy crap, they're gonna they're gonna win this game. I thought.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was one of those classics there. I

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Speaker 1: thought Miami was gonna win. I thought the whole time

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Speaker 1: they're keeping him, you know, as long as you keep

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Speaker 1: him nine ten points away. And then you're watching and

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Speaker 1: like with a minute and fifty or something to go,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, Miami's not like trapping, they're not pressuring,

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Speaker 1: they're just playing. You forget, like NBA games are so long.

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Speaker 1: I though that was last It's like the last three

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Speaker 1: outs against the Yankees, those last two minutes against a

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Speaker 1: really good team on the road at it is so

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Speaker 1: hard to just just figure out a way to but

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler hits that shot, and we're having a completely

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Speaker 1: different conversation about him. Um, I'm not superstar, Jimmy. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm an idiot because he's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I think he's awesome. He's a really good player. But

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Speaker 1: like we do this like a guy's the best player

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Speaker 1: on a team that doesn't have offense. We're like, wow,

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Speaker 1: he's amazing, Like all right, he's if you watch the

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Speaker 1: whole year, is a really good place. He has competitive grades, yes,

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Speaker 1: competitive grade yes, But I'm not taking ahead of Durant,

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Speaker 1: not taking ahead of Yokis, not taking ahead of him beat,

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Speaker 1: not taking ahead of Luca. I'm not taking him ahead

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Speaker 1: of Jannis. I'm not taking him ahead of Tatum. I

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Speaker 1: don't take him ahead of Tatum. Tatum's I think Tatum's younger.

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Speaker 1: I think I have I think I have eight seven

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Speaker 1: years of Tatum's prime. I feel like with Jimmy that

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Speaker 1: that knee. Yeah, I mean, if they want to play, well,

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Speaker 1: he's been in the league for a long time and yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know he's yeah, he's really really good, really good.

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Speaker 1: But we just throw out these superstar things all the time,

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Speaker 1: like you know to take him out of staff, No chance. Um,

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Speaker 1: I might take him out of Lillard. Yeah, I see.

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Speaker 1: It probably won't as a size because literally can't. He's

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Speaker 1: not a plus defender. No, no, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's that was. It was fun. So we've

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Speaker 1: had a lot of weird NBA stuff. Hopefully we have

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Speaker 1: like six or seven good finals games that'd be fun.

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