WEBVTT - Southeast Division Preview: Hawks and Heat

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of The Heat Check, we finish our

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Conference preview with the IKEA of Divisions, the Southeast

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<v Speaker 1>Division worse than the IKEA of Divisions actually like IKEA's

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<v Speaker 1>coffee tables. You know, they try to pretend like there would,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually just made out of cardboard that's been

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<v Speaker 1>like disintegrated and packed into like some glue form. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it is the IKEA Divisions. We're looking at Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Look, Orlando,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Washington Wizards. We also have a great interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Kurt Healing from NBC Sports to prepare you for

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<v Speaker 1>all the things about the new season. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>loaded show. Welcome, let's get into it. William drop that

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<v Speaker 1>generic gas beat that should be reh honest breaking down

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<v Speaker 1>all the biggest NBA storylines heat Check. The Heat Check

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<v Speaker 1>was just a CRA's the best podcast covering all the

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<v Speaker 1>drama around the association. Our final preview Southeast Division. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to say last, but not least. We saved the

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<v Speaker 1>best for last, but we didn't. I waited as long

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<v Speaker 1>as I possibly could to talk about this shitty ass division.

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<v Speaker 1>The yellow starburst of NBA divisions is the Southeast. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the candy corn in the Halloween Bowl, whereas like

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants this shit. It's sticking to everything else. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't get rid of it. They put it on sale

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<v Speaker 1>for nine to nine cents for an entire pound at

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<v Speaker 1>your local Fred Myers. But we're gonna get into it

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<v Speaker 1>anyway because there's still NBA teams here that we have

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<v Speaker 1>to cover. That's how much I love you. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about other things the tea, like the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Bulls players meeting only first game of the season has

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<v Speaker 1>to get waxed by the Okase thunder. But no, no, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>we must fulfill our commitments, and we start with the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Hawks. Key additions. They get Kobe Buffin in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft out of Michigan. They get Patty Mills from free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>What is Patty Mills doing there? By the way, what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck? Why? First of all, aren't you ready to retire?

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<v Speaker 1>And second of all, why do you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>with that dog shit organization? Subtractions. John Collins Finally, he's

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<v Speaker 1>been in the news trade rumors so long. Finally happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets himself into a better situation. Congratulations to John Collins. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we move forward about the Hawks. So though last year

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawks imploded, they fired their coach of the deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>they went out and hired a coach midway through the

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<v Speaker 1>season in Quinn Snyder for so much money, all the money. Spectacularly,

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<v Speaker 1>also fired their GM, hired a whole new front office.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember then they tried to say the GM wasn't really fired,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just in an advisory role. Now I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they fired him and he just kept him on site

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<v Speaker 1>on step. Yeah, Travis Schlank. Now he's working for the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Wizards, part of the same same sort of umbrella,

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<v Speaker 1>yellow starburst. But we'll move forward. The explanation of hiring

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn Snyder and then not waiting out the year was

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<v Speaker 1>just so that Snyder could assess, he could wait and

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<v Speaker 1>see what he had. He could get a head start

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<v Speaker 1>for this season. And he found out pretty early that

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<v Speaker 1>this old John Collins Trey Young thing it's not working.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never gonna work. John Collins doesn't like Trey Young.

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<v Speaker 1>So this summer they sent out John Collins the Utah

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz for Rudy Gay and his second round pick. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>they were at one point I refusing to trade John

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<v Speaker 1>Collins unless they got multiple first round picks for him

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<v Speaker 1>back That was a real article. Those were the real

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<v Speaker 1>news rumors. Sounds like they couldn't get that first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick for him, and now they got a dirty muffin

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<v Speaker 1>which was Rudy Gay and his second round pick. They

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<v Speaker 1>turned down much better packages for him in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I like where John Collins landed for a team that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty trash. Last year, the Hawks didn't really do much.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still trying to roll out this whole Dejontey Murray

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<v Speaker 1>and Trey Young experiments. I preferred to Jontay Murray. They

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<v Speaker 1>add Patty Mills and Kobe Buffkin. Neither are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very much factors. This team is going to fall

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<v Speaker 1>again on whether Dejonte and Trey could play together. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, honestly. I like DeAndre Hunter a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not sure honestly if this roster makes any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>They refused to extend Sidik Bay, which they traded for,

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<v Speaker 1>which means he's probably getting moved at the deadline or

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<v Speaker 1>they'll lose him for nothing. We're looking at a starting

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<v Speaker 1>five of Clint Capella, who looked horrible in their opening game.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been rumored to be traded for the last sixteen months,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Young, de Jontey Murray just signed an extension, DeAndre

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<v Speaker 1>hurt Hunter, and bog Don Bogdanovic. Does anybody think that

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<v Speaker 1>this team is gonna win their division? No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a team that went to the Eastern Conference finals. Does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone actually like this team? The Washington Wizards circle Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>on their calendars, like, yep, that's the game. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>game we low manage stars for. That's the game we

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<v Speaker 1>low manage Jordan Pool for. They're gonna probably win forty

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<v Speaker 1>forty two games. They're gonna be a playing team as

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<v Speaker 1>like a twelve seed? Was it seven, eight, nine, ten?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a ten seed? Ten seed? It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>so many damn teams get in. This is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of team really is like wins the NBA in season

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<v Speaker 1>tournament and they just call that season his success because

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<v Speaker 1>the owner's son is now running the team, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know how that whole thing goes. And then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have another mediocres to season and Quinn Snyder will have

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<v Speaker 1>to decide whether Trey Young can be on this team

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<v Speaker 1>any longer in order for them to move on and succeed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he'll get to the point where he

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<v Speaker 1>realizes maybe he's been the problem the whole time. We

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<v Speaker 1>move forward another team in this division. My vote for

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<v Speaker 1>the team that had the absolutely worst off season by far,

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<v Speaker 1>by far was the Miami Heat. How do you go

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<v Speaker 1>to the finals and still have the worst off season

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<v Speaker 1>of anyone? Love their draft picks, Haimi Hawkez love him,

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<v Speaker 1>you end up getting Thomas Bryant. Don't hate it, Josh Richardson,

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<v Speaker 1>you pick him up. That's terrible, John. I might be

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<v Speaker 1>the leader of the Josh Richardson dis fan club, like

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<v Speaker 1>the non fan club like. I don't hate him as

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<v Speaker 1>a person. He is not a piece. Though he is

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<v Speaker 1>not a piece. I would have rather they got Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>than Josh Richardson. That's not a lie. They lose Max Struz,

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<v Speaker 1>who by the way, had seven threes for the Caves

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<v Speaker 1>the other night, just loading up buckets after buckets. They

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<v Speaker 1>lose Gabe Vincent. They lose Victor Oladipa. They were just waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew they were getting Damian Lillar, didn't they. They

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<v Speaker 1>just knew they were getting Dame. They thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting Bradley Beal for a song. This team could have

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<v Speaker 1>had Dame brad Beal, Jimmy Butler, bam Adebayo. Jesus, what

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<v Speaker 1>are they doing? Pat Riley? Pat Riley, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to say other than he just doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend money. He's done, he's decided, like the Chicago Bulls,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna put together a good product and in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs we'll see. But I'm not gonna go into the

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<v Speaker 1>luxury tags for a thirty something star who's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>like sixty five million dollars next year. They lost out

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<v Speaker 1>on Bradley Beal, who was his first choice, was going

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<v Speaker 1>to Miami. Even this week. Something came out where he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I thought it was a done deal, and

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, they did not want to make a move.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the no trade clause, Bradley, It's the no trade clause,

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<v Speaker 1>and they dragged their feet. No clue what happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened. You know what happened, pat Riley. Happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to basically get another star for free and

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<v Speaker 1>have Bradley Beal wave his no trade clause, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Burele goes to Phoenix for basically nothing. Literally, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was like what how many? Like a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of second round picks? And Beale is still like, how

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<v Speaker 1>did I end up in Phoenix? I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>this happened. It wasn't even on my board. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even register as a team for me to go to. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they lose Dame because they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>make a real offer. What did that leave them thinking

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they could get into the Drew Holiday Sweepstakes? But

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<v Speaker 1>by then it was like Portland's I don't call us

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<v Speaker 1>lose our number. Then now they're thinking maybe they can

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<v Speaker 1>get into the Heart and Sweep steaks because Harden is

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<v Speaker 1>now opening up the possibilities of trade partners for Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wants to compete, doesn't matter if he's in La.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a disaster. Their backup plan, Kelly Oubre went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Sixers. Then Jannis, who was their backup, backup, backup plan,

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<v Speaker 1>just signed a massive three year extension. All they can

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<v Speaker 1>hope for now is Joel Embiid. That's it. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>pat Riley is coming to a close of what he's

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<v Speaker 1>willing to do in terms of his aggressiveness. They find

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<v Speaker 1>these guys out of the bottom of the barrel. They

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<v Speaker 1>want these role players who can contribute with very little

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<v Speaker 1>money attached to them, and that helps them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with their financial situation. That's fine, but ultimately that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to do when you are a championship

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<v Speaker 1>caliber franchise. He's a junk ball pitcher now, pat Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>his command has failed. The Heat were three minutes from

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<v Speaker 1>getting bounced last year in the player and then what

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<v Speaker 1>do they do? They said, well, well, just instead of

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<v Speaker 1>using that data to make our decision, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>use the data that's less likely, which is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we went to the finals and then you lose

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<v Speaker 1>two guys that were on the team that were key contributors.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I like about this team? Obviously Jimmy Butler,

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<v Speaker 1>He's fucking beast. He's one of my favorite players in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. I love bam Adebayo. Those two are enough

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<v Speaker 1>to do a lot for you in a postseason. Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>hero is an absolute bucket. He's like the white Anthony Simons.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be able to get your buckets from

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<v Speaker 1>the perimeter. He's going to probably have a chip on

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<v Speaker 1>his shoulder and Chuck I don't know eighteen times a game.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been rumored to be in every trade Miami's ever had. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>he deleted Miami from his Instagram. Remember, at one point

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<v Speaker 1>this beach could probably revenge season for Tyler Hero. Duncan

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson I think is back into the rotation. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they hate him less because he proved himself when Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Hero was out. In the playoffs, they're starting guards though,

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<v Speaker 1>are Kyle Lowry and Caleb Martin. This is a bad team, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a bad team. This is the same team

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<v Speaker 1>as last year, only worse. If Heimi Hawkaz doesn't produce

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<v Speaker 1>or Nikola Yovich, who was a healthy scratch last night

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't produce ah and they don't make the playoffs, I

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<v Speaker 1>would not be shocked if they don't make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone else except for Atlanta got better in their division

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<v Speaker 1>and they got worse. It's Mas school, folks. They are

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<v Speaker 1>taking a downturn. The biggest asset that the Heat have

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously Eric Spolstra. He continues to make gold out

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<v Speaker 1>of garbage, so I would be also not shocked if

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<v Speaker 1>they made the finals again. Best case scenario is playing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you never know what's gonna happen when you get

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Butler in the postseason, the heat though, or a

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<v Speaker 1>team in decline. I am not ruining for them. I

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<v Speaker 1>do not feel like they are a team that you

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<v Speaker 1>can believe in, and pat Riley must take the blame.