1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's one of the stronger drafts in 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: a while, certainly better than last years. It is not 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback heavy draft. We've got one star quarterback at 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: the top. Todd McShay does this for a living at 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: McShay thirteen's the Twitter account college football analyst, draft guy 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: known for a long time, so you know, listen there. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: New England went bad to good very quickly, based on 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: coaching hires and the ascension of Drake May who was 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: already in How I mean if you look at Clint Kubiak, 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: who doesn't have Vrabels, you know, pedigree, yet could be great. 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, Brock Bauers, Ashton, Jen Colton Milder comes back. 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: Defense are they were banged up, but they've they've Max 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Crosby's obviously elite. Let's just talk about the offense. Is 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza a good fit for Clint Kubiak? Donald was, 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they're the same kind of player. Is 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: Kubiak and Mendoza? Does that work? Immediately? 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: To you? It works? 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 4: I mean, I think we should start with the jumping 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: off point. And I hope we've we've learned from from 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 4: the Sam Donald situation, Like, talent is talent, right, And 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: and I really like Fernando Mendoza. He's tall, he's six' 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: five two, Twenty he's got mobility for his, size he's 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: got a lot of energy on the, ball and he's. 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: Smart but he's not if we're talking, Physically he's not 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: some of the guys we've seen in the last few. 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: Drafts he's Not, caleb he's Not, jayden he's Not, Drake, 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: yeah not even Cam. 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: Ward so. 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: There's that to, unpack, Right and then the other part 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 4: is what you're asking here is the. 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: FIT i think he can be a good. FIT i, 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: mean you, know. 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: With, kubiak you're talking about kind of his touch in 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five on The shanahan, system right outside, zone play, 42 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: action right on the, move, bootlegs you, know getting the ball. 43 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 4: Out they want to be physical and run the, ball 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: and they've got the running back to do. It they've 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: got to improve their offensive, Line they've you, know there's 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: some things that have to fall into. PLACE i think 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: off of play, actions Where mendoza does a lot of 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: really good. Work now it's an adjustment to you, know 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: the play action off the outside zone versus kind of 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: THE rpo stuff he was doing In. 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: Indiana but. 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: BOTH i, mean he's used To, kubiak a quarterback who 53 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: can be over, Aggressive, yeah and he was able to manage. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: That In Sam, Donald you'll, say, well during the regular 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: season he, Didn't, yeah but in the playoffs he. Did 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: and you could See Sam donald continue to grow and, 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: develop and he had his best game of his career 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: the second to last outing in THE Nfc championship. 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Game SO i think you'll see a lot of. 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: That and it's the same thing WHEN i watch his 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: tape at Cal. MENDOZAS i loved him AND i was 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: kind of the first on the train and he could 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 4: be a first round, pick BUT i also recognize it's 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: just far too many turnover worthy. 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: Plays, yeah eyes. 66 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: Drop when that initial pressure comes and there's this little 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: quarter count of panic in his game still has. That 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: but What signetti and that whole staff or in niendo 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: was able to do is bottle up make his reads. 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: Easier if the you, know let's read the cornerback on 71 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: this two by two and let's make a. Decision if 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: it's not, there we could take off and. Run but 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 4: we're not going to get in a position where we're 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: asking you to sit in the, pocket go through read 75 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: after read after, read and allow yourself to get into 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: some old. Habits so koube actually gonna pick up where 77 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: they left. Off If mendoza's in fact the, pick. 78 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah is there? HERE i mean outside Of. Mendoza usually 79 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: the rule is for the top fifteen, picks just take 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: the best guy on the. Board there's about fifteen special 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: players every, draft and then you, know if they're a 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: vain unless you've already got your, tackles take the. Tackle 83 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: if he's the best. Guy is there a definitive second best. 84 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: Player here's your mock. Draft you Have, reese who is 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: a remarkable linebacker At Ohio. State David bailey's really. GOOD i, 86 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: MEAN i Mean Ruben, BANK i Like Jeremiah. LOVE i 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: don't think he's a second. Pick is there to YOU 88 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a definitive gotta take him at number. 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: Two if you're asking me the first of, ALL i 90 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: think it's the best prospect in this class Is Rvell. 91 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: Reese but he is a. Projection he's six,' four two. 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: Forty five he's one of those guys like he's gonna 93 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 4: if he works out At the combine Or At ohio State's, 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: pro day it's going to get a lot. Of attention 95 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: he was a one year Starter At ohio state after 96 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: come backing up two guys that will wind UP being 97 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: nfl guys playing in a rotation in twenty. Twenty four 98 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: his ability to cover and play sideline, to sideline the power, 99 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: he has the length. He has it's unique man for 100 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: an off. Ball linebacker but what you're doing is you're 101 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: projecting him as An. Edge now is it the same 102 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: career Arc As. MICHAEL parsons i think people forget he 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: was an off ball linebacker until injuries Happened with dallas as, 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: a rookie and then he becomes the edge that we 105 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: all know. And LOVE now i could see a. Similar 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: arc he's just not developed as an. Edge rusher if 107 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: you're asking me the best player in, this DRAFT though i. 108 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: Think it's a. 109 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: Different question Prospect is reese Player Is, jeremiah love but 110 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: he's a running back coming Out Of. 111 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: NOTRE dame i think it's just a Stud. 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: Oh man you think ABOUT like, nfl films right. 113 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: With the music going with that camera view. 114 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: From behind the defense is they're running like a freight 115 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 4: train and it's like this combination of like poetry and 116 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 4: beauty with the music, going behind but also like just's 117 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: like devastation of running. 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: Through tacklers That's What jeremiah. 119 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 4: Love is he's got this like kind of the weave in, 120 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: and out the. Contact balance you see that long run 121 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: obviously the college playoffs a. 122 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: Year ago he's got all. 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: The tools whether you're going back To Like eric dickerson or, 124 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: you know Like The, emmett smith but he's Faster. Than 125 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: emmitt if you Go To, jean robinson like he's that caliber, 126 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: of talent Most teams i've, talked to if he's, not 127 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 4: one he's two or three on. 128 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: Their board, problem, is again he's a. 129 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: Running back so maybe he Falls To kansas city and 130 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: becomes a treasure there For the chiefs, at nine or 131 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: Maybe the saints one pick earlier. 132 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: At, eight, yeah boys he's we agree. 133 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: WITH that. 134 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: I could there are certain. TEAMS here i Mean the 135 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: jets could try DOWN and i mean they need, multiple 136 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Players Whereas kansas city needs a. Specific player, You Know. 137 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee giants could you See the giants? Trading down LIKE 138 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: if i said, to you this team specifically trades up, 139 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: or down what's a trade that seems feasible. 140 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: To you here's the deal with, This, Draft, colin right 141 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: it is a really, good draft and it's a lot 142 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: better than some people may think. 143 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: Because the quarterback class. 144 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: Isn't great so everyone's already talking about twenty twenty seven 145 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: On The white house lawn and how special that group's 146 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: going to Be with Arch And julian Saying And dante 147 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: More And brendan soresby and all these. Other, quarterbacks right 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: this group is really talented at positions that matter that 149 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: we're reminded of In The, super bowl, like, edge interior, 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: defensive line. Offensive tackle the wide receiver group. Is outstanding 151 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: even though there's not Maybe A calvin johnson in. This 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: class is there are four GUYS that i Think are 153 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: day one impact starters in. The League In carnel Tate From, 154 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: ohio state McKay LEMON From, Us Siege Jordan Tyson, arizona 155 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 4: State And denzel Boston. 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: From washington but the issue is if. 157 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: You're trying to, trade Back and i'll be intrigued to 158 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: See Does Tom brady kubiak do they Look at mendoza 159 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: and say he's absolutely? The guy or do we want 160 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: to trade out of this spot To a jets organization 161 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: that might want to move Up or, cleveland potentially do 162 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: we want to trade out of this spot when we 163 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: get closer to the draft and load up four. Next 164 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: year that's going to be one storyline. To fall the, 165 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: OTHER is i don't know outside who's. TRADING up i 166 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: can get a similar level or caliber offensive tackle or 167 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: edge or wide receiver or cornerback like later in the 168 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: first early in the second IS maybe i can get 169 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: and pick eight. 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: Or twelve so that's going to. BE interesting i don't 171 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: know if there's gonna be a lot of movement in 172 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: the first round. 173 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: This, year yeah the, YOU know i look At ty 174 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Simpson at BAMA and i do think he has a pretty. 175 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Good Arm but i've always believed you've got to have a. 176 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: Wow Trade now THAT'S why i Missed On kyler MURRAY 177 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: because i thought he had a wow ELUSIVENESS and i 178 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: thought because of a, baseball player, the sliding, the elusiveness the. 179 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: QUICK release i, was, like oh that's a loose and 180 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: he hasn't, been THAT so i missed. ON that i 181 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: thought he would. BE better i thought his trajectory was 182 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: up and then STUFF that i didn't. KNOW about i 183 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Look At toddy Simpson and, i'm, like boy they had 184 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: a great, offensive coach they had great. Wide receivers they 185 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: couldn't run, the ball so he, you know he had an. 186 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Unbalanced offense what is the trait with Him that todd, 187 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: McShay goes that's a. Franchise guy is it the? 188 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: Arm strength it's not a. 189 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: Physical trait and he's got two strikes, against, him RIGHT 190 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: because i do believe in what's the physical trait, that's excellent, 191 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: that's different and he doesn't have the. Physical trait the 192 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: other part is the, fifteen, starts man It is. It's 193 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: real we've talked about it before on, this show like 194 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: there are a couple guys who are superhuman that have 195 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: twenty five starts that are great in. The League patrick 196 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 4: Mahomes And josh allen he's Not That bryce young will 197 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: see the verdicts still out played really well down the stretch, 198 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 4: this year and you see some positive things he's in 199 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: that like twenty eight twenty nine starts coming out. Of 200 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: college everyone else is like thirty four starts. Or more 201 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: and so those are two strikes. Right there THE thing 202 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 4: i will Say with Tye and i'm probably more on 203 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: board With ty simpson than a lot of. Other people 204 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: if you go BACK and i can't wait for coaches to, 205 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: get involved OC's, quarterback coaches head coaches that are. Offensive 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: minded you watch the first nine games of, The season 207 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: bendoz was. Really Good ty simpson was the best quarterback in, 208 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: college football processing ball, out anticipation had Receivers As ryan 209 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: williams is supposed to be as Good As jeremiah Love At. 210 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: Ohio state drops he's got like the yips man like. 211 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: He disappeared so He's Got, jeremy bernard who's a really. 212 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: Good player is his only reliable consistent for a while, 213 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: RUN game i think they finished like one hundred and 214 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: twenty six, or one. 215 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: Like how? 216 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: Is? 217 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: That alabama and then they've they've, faced venables rent venables. 218 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: Defensive minded the head Coach, for oklahoma and they were able, To, 219 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: show okay here's how you beat. 220 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 3: His protections So. 221 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: Now i'm behind, the line and everyone after that followed 222 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: and you know fell in. 223 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: Suit On now i'm behind a line that's not. 224 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: Protecting, Me great i'm, BANGED up i don't have a, 225 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: run game and my best wide receiver has decided. To 226 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: disappear i'm, telling you this guy's got something. In him, 227 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: Coach's son dad's been, a life lifelong coach. Eighteen years 228 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: he's been the head Coach At Middle. Tennessee state. He's 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: different he's different than some of those, other young immature 230 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: guys that have come out with the fewer than. Twenty 231 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: STARTS so i could see him being the exception to. 232 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: The RULE but i don't know that it's gonna BE 233 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: like i think with McVeigh with one Year, behind stafford, 234 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: let's say in that offensive system with a co coach his, 235 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: SON'S mind i think that. 236 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: COULD work i put him at thirteen in this. 237 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: Mock draft as of, RIGHT now i don't think that that's, 238 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: Gonna happen but wait. For it like Too many i've 239 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: been doing this two and a. 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GONNA work i really, like HIM but 268 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: I always i, JUST thought i, mean, size arm, athletic, ability, 269 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: Leadership toughness like it's just too, many things too many boxes. 270 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Get checked where were You on donald when he was 271 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: it Was man Overboard In. 272 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: NEW york. 273 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: I have a show that's twice, a Week The, midhay, 274 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: show right And on monday We released mocked, Two POINTS 275 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: so i didn't really get. 276 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: INTO it i haven't had my bleep you tour like 277 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: you've like you've been able to Have. 278 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: WITH saymdarnald, i mean he was in my MIND and 279 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: i put IT like i planted that Flag on donald 280 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 4: in a class that obviously had a lot of talented 281 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: Quarterbacks Including, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield josh rosen at, the 282 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: Time And. Lamar, JACKSON right i saw Something in SAM 283 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: that i thought. 284 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: Was special, the creativity, the. 285 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: Arm enough mobility in the, pocket AGGRESSIVENESS and i, knew 286 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: this the turnovers were, an ISSUE but i thought it 287 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: the right, you, know coach the, right way with the right, 288 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: supporting cast we could see something like we're. Seeing now 289 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: and was he brilliant In The? Super, bowl no but 290 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: he was brilliant and got him there. 291 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: IN The nfc. Championship GAME and. 292 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: I all here's, the Thing and i'm gonna go on 293 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: a tangent here. Real quickly two things came. To mind, 294 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: is one, stay like stay true to. Your evaluation it's about. 295 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: The talent but also you got to figure out, what 296 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: here and you got to figure out what's here the 297 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: mind and, like that, that toughness. 298 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: The heart, all THAT and i saw all those Things. 299 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: In sam the other THING is i get so tired 300 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: of listening to people around draft, season, saying well if 301 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: you tell me where, He goes i'll tell you how 302 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 4: he's going. To be, you know we don't put enough 303 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: emphasis on the on where, he lands and more too 304 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: much emphasis on. 305 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: The player it ain't, my, job man talent up here and, down. 306 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: There And sam darnold was the best player in that 307 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: class in. My, Opinion Now josh allen has developed MORE 308 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: than i thought, he Would and lamar has developed MORE 309 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: than i thought. 310 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: He would all three are. 311 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: Phenomenal players So, it's BAKER but i always saw This 312 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: in sam and so this is my little chance, TO 313 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: like i haven't gotten any fruit baskets or like apology 314 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: letters in the mail from the media or from like 315 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: all the people that were just ripping me During his 316 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: Jets and. 317 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: Panthers' Day so i'm waiting on. Those, coups, yeah YEAH well. 318 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't i wouldn't hold. Your breath. 319 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: No not we know how works from. 320 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: The ringer, todd McShay great scene you butt his always love, 321 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: your insights. 322 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: All, RIGHT man i. Appreciate it talk to. 323 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: You, soon yeah it's uh the rvil recent, interesting player, 324 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: you know like he's what he's going to do IN 325 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: the nfl he may not be currently. Doing now THAT 326 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: was I like Bane. From miami like that game. JUST 327 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: translates i think both Those early Miami guys hurricanes are 328 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Really good. Day One carnell tate's, another one Really good. 329 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: Day one but it's a. Good draft, good receivers, good 330 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: tackles good, edge RUSHERS and I think I. Like mendoza 331 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: he wasn't the best quarterback in college football in the. 332 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: First month he wasn't in the first month. Or two 333 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: he was in the last two. THREE months i think 334 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot of that is his ability to improve and 335 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: be coachable and listen. And lead and he's not going 336 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: to wow you with his, athletics stuff but he seemed 337 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: big and athletic and coachable and a leader and tough and, 338 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: gets POPPED and i. LIKE him i think he's. Ready 339 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: good he may not BE an a, plus PLUS but 340 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: I think mendelsa's a, really good really really good high end. 341 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: QUARTERBACK Prospect j mack with. The news. 342 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: Turn on. The news this is The Herd. 343 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 8: Line news so we haven't talked about, Your Guy. 344 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 9: Caleb williams it's been like two weeks the Same of. 345 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 9: DARNALD LoveFest i Wonder if caleb is not feeling. The love, 346 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 9: but man what a good season he Had Under. Ben 347 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 9: johnson just tremendous Upside for Caleb And ben, johnson, Together well. 348 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 8: Bear's LEGEND. 349 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 9: Brian r lacker love what he Saw, from caleb adding 350 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 9: that he should Be. 351 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 8: In chicago's future for the next. TWENTY years i think 352 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 8: that's a. Little rich but we did pull together some. 353 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 9: Stats here colin in the last, Fifteen starts Caleb And 354 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 9: ben johnson eleven, and four two fifty five yards. Per 355 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 9: game look at the touchdown. Interception ratio he. 356 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: Was exceptional and. 357 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 8: You can only say they're just scratching. The surface this is. 358 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: Year one we believe YOU and I believe seattle And 359 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: the rams were the two best teams in. The, LEAGUE 360 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: yeah I think chicago's got an argument with about four 361 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: other teams depending On the Sunday With. Caleb williams Growth is. 362 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Chicago third they Gave THE ram i Mean. The, rams remember, 363 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: no penalties, no turnovers didn't drop. A PASS maybe i 364 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: may have had. One penalty rams played Perfect. In chicago 365 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: you know In green, bay again they last time they 366 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: beat They Beat. Green bay you start if you start 367 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: looking at the third best team in, this league you, can, Say, 368 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh Philadelphia ben johnson's a, Better coach caleb's a better 369 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: Quarterback then Jalen Hurts, NICK ceriani i don't Think that 370 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: caleb will. 371 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 8: Be better is? 372 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 9: He? 373 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 1: Better, no god go look at the numbers he can 374 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: throw over. The middle he. CAN see i don't think 375 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: it's wild To Say caleb williams is on our. Short 376 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: LIST if i said to You. By Thanksgiving caleb williams top. 377 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: Five quarterback that's not a reach. THAT feel i thought 378 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: four are. 379 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 8: Basically, cemented right we would agree. 380 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: That Makes it we're a just been open. 381 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 9: IT was i thought It was hurts After The SUPER 382 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 9: bowl mvp when he. Was great some People Thought jayden 383 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 9: Daniels justin herbert's always been. 384 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: The lad having new Information on jayden he struggles to. 385 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: Stay healthy that's. New information he got hurt. Last Year 386 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: who i've been hurt? First year? Ringed, UP yeah, i 387 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: mean so there's new Information On. Jalen hurts he's not 388 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: great in. The room he really struggles seeing. The field 389 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: there's new Information On kyler murray a couple of, years 390 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: ago he's not. 391 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: Really. 392 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: ALL yeah, i mean so this IDEA that i get 393 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: new information and don't change. My opinion if you're, a 394 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: pilot there's a lightning storm twenty eight, miles out you 395 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: want to go around it or right. Through it you get. 396 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 9: NEW information i got new information On. The patriots they 397 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 9: stink against. Good teams well that's some bridge too far. 398 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 9: For you, all right let's go to the. 399 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: Next. 400 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 8: STORY colin i love. 401 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 9: This, Preface okay So the seahawks entered the season as 402 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 9: a massive sixty to one underdog to Win The, super 403 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 9: bowl so our staff found out out The Newest super 404 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 9: bowl odds for, next Season super bowl. Sixty, one now 405 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 9: obviously we have the draft and. Free agency here are 406 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: The Top super. Bowl odds Rams and seahawks are tied 407 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 9: for The Best super bowl odds, next year followed By 408 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 9: the bills. NO surprise I think patriots are way. Too 409 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 9: high eagles are, up there And. THE ravens i don't 410 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 9: know what they're. Doing there here's. MY thing a year 411 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 9: ago at, this TIME if i had, told, You, hey 412 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 9: seahawks you gotta bet, on them don't Win The, super 413 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 9: bowl you would have last and you did, like Them 414 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 9: so colin, For me i'm. 415 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 8: Looking, at okay so who are some Long. 416 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 9: Shots chargers that's not a. BAD one i don't know if, 417 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 9: their Defense losing minter is. 418 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: Going to be. OUT either i don't think their defense 419 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: will be. AS good i think their offense will be. 420 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: Significantly better they have a ton of. Cap space they 421 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: really like The Receiver, trey harris the tackles come. BACK 422 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: UPGRADED oc i Think the chargers Are. The, Seahawks okay. 423 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 8: I'm gonna give. 424 00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 5: You. 425 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 9: One now just remember if anybody Had said seattle a, year. 426 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 8: Ago you had been the, Come On, sam. 427 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 9: Darnold the viking just, kipt him kicked him to. 428 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: The, Curb right, I'm, Ready. 429 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 9: Okay so looking at, cheap quarterback ok, with upside cheap quarterback, 430 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 9: with upside, amazing defense great defensive coordinator who is in, 431 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 9: high demand and they're sixty to one, Right now and 432 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 9: that's that's that's That's In. Minnesota vikings oh. 433 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: Come, ON see i knew. You do WHY wouldn't I? 434 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: Say denver denver's not sixty. To one they're gonna be 435 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: one of. 436 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 8: The favorites we know the favorite is. 437 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: A good bet. To me, cheap quarterback, great coach excellent. 438 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: Pass rush denver is Gonna, Be really i'm. 439 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 8: Just gonna remind you who just Made The. Super Bowl. 440 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 8: Drake may, After Last drake may's, Rookie. 441 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 9: Here nobody would have said that's THE team. I, Think, 442 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 9: so well if. 443 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: You're going to give me a, long shot what Are? 444 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 9: The bears bears are not a. Long, shot broncos by, 445 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 9: the way are. Eighteen hundred that's not a Longest. The 446 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 9: bears it's sixty. 447 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: To, one okay well your bet BET's. An outlier This 448 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: The bears bears are twenty five. To, One oh I'm 449 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna i'm gonna bet, a LOT and i don't hate that. 450 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: TWENTY five i can get twenty five to one Of. The, 451 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: bears yeah, you know you know my son's got another year. 452 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: OF college i think it's time to roll the five. 453 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: To nine take it the bet you. 454 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 8: Sell some jet Skis By bears. 455 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: Bears at twenty five to one is, a, Bargain. 456 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 9: Right, but again so you you Stop at viking sixty. 457 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 8: To, one right you JUST said. 458 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put a nickel. 459 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 8: On, That Okay ryan flores is Back. In minnesota it 460 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 8: was A. 461 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: QUARTERBACKH jj i Think. MAYBE aaron I Think. AARON rodgers 462 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: I don't I. 463 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 8: Want jj you'll he'll. Be fine KEVIN o'conne. 464 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: I Bet aaron rodgers To the vikings on. ANY platfor, 465 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean. 466 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 8: I'll take, Your money i'll book, Your action. 467 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: I'll get final stories TO. 468 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 9: The, nba listen this should Have Been first hour Story 469 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 9: Called This Is Spicy. Last Night james Harden and Darius Not, 470 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 9: Arius Garlett james Harden And donovan mitchell went off And 471 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 9: beat Jokic, in denver a, great win a monster. Fourth, 472 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 9: Quarter listen Hardin and mitchell all of a sudden is a. 473 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 9: Dynamic backcourt you can, stop one but you can't. 474 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 8: Stop. 475 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 9: Both colin after, The Game donovan mitchell talked About integrating 476 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 9: harden into. The offense. 477 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 7: Found something that he likes when they playing the offense 478 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 7: him at jam be Phenomenal Obviously, sam jayale and then, it's. 479 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: Tough, you know. To pick do you? 480 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 7: Guard him do you? Guard me do you Help? Off, 481 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 7: sam like there's so many. Different things jayleen hits a 482 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 7: bigger top of. The key jay's getting as FLOOR as 483 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 7: i come Down through ja. In love like there's so 484 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 7: many different things that we found and we still, haven't 485 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 7: practiced which is hooping off fives, Right now like you 486 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 7: Know what, i'm saying just figuring. 487 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 8: IT out I Like. DONOVAN mitchell i think this. 488 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: Is sick they won. BY two i don't Think the 489 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: nuggets are a great. 490 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 9: Defensive backgrounds they Don't Have aaron, gordon still but that's a. 491 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 8: Great win. 492 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 9: NUGGETS finser i rate at the coach for Not playing. 493 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 9: Yokich more he's on like still a minute. 494 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: That he just came off. An, injury yeah well you can. 495 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 8: Get two points that Leniency. 496 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: To, austin also it's you're not You don't how do 497 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: you scout guys that haven't. Played together this is one 498 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Of these denver's like we have to watch them play 499 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: because we don't know what they want. 500 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 8: To do so give me your top three In the east. 501 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Right Now Detroit Celtics. 502 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 9: KNICKS interesting i don't know what's going On With. Jason 503 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 9: tatum there's so much chatter that he may come back, 504 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 9: thirty GAMES but i hope he doesn't. Force IT but 505 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 9: i Think the calves are a danger in a seven. 506 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 9: Game series give me the caves over the Phone For. 507 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: James hardens you felt For the calves. LAST year i did. 508 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: Never fall they were. 509 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 8: NUMBER one, I know. 510 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: I know they were a. Good TEAM yeah I. 511 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 8: Got knicks calves in the. Conference Finals, No. 512 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 9: Pistons, no pistons fools gold, My, Friend, SORRY kate i. 513 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Like, HIM yeah i don't buy that. At all They Defend. 514 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 8: James horden you know what he's going. 515 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: TO do i do not get the whistle and Complain 516 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: j mack with. 517 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: The news well that's, the news and thanks for Stopping 518 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: The Herd. Line, news. 519 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Wow the's a lot going, On Today nick Wright and 520 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: todd McShay and it's just the shows are. 521 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: Flying by be sure to catch live Editions Of the 522 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: herd weekdays. At noon easter not a. Im, Pacific. 523 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: Well clint kubiak just took over As the raiders' latest. 524 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: Head coach we've seen this year a team that rarely replaces, 525 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: a Coach The pittsburgh Steelers hire, mike McCarthy and a 526 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: team that regularly Does the raiders choose an offensive Guy 527 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Replacing antonio pears Or A, pete carroll And Here's. Clint kubiak. 528 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 5: The main thing is is this is no, ordinary job, 529 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 5: you know this is this Is the Sober, and black 530 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 5: this Is. The raiders this is a historic Franchise on 531 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 5: it's something That That i'm i'm very excited. Excited for, 532 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 5: you know when you say commitment, to excellence can you 533 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: look at the walls? Around here you look at the 534 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 5: players on this wall and there's. A history there's a 535 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 5: History of Hall of fame, players here there's a History 536 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 5: Of super bowls and that's what the ultimate. Goal is 537 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 5: but you have to be about to work if you 538 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 5: want to. 539 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: Get. 540 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: THERE yeah, i mean if they were in an, EASIER 541 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: division i could see them doubling their. Wins easily this 542 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: is the first time in a long time between, the 543 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: quarterback the Offensive. Coach bowers They'll Get colton. Miller back 544 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: they were all banged up. Last year aston gent draft another. 545 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Running back, you know we talked about Maybe A. Rashid sahed, 546 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: you know can they go out and get a. DEEP 547 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: threat i think they need a. Volume receiver But, the, 548 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: raiders again if they were IN The nfc SOUTH Or, 549 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: AFC south i say they could win. TEN games i 550 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: don't know if. THEY'RE there I like mendoz a lot 551 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: so SPYTECH. THE gm i think you got a. Shot 552 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: here he's an. Impressive, guy, immediately Though The sam darnold 553 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: is now going to fall off of The. Flat earth 554 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: everybody is now bailing On Their. Sam DARNALD and i, 555 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: said this the AFC's got the, best quarterbacks the NFC's 556 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: got the. Best rosters but what do we Do With 557 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: sam donald IN? The, nfc now you tell me who 558 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: would you take at quarterback over the next. Three Years 559 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: nick wright came on two hours ago and addressed that. 560 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 10: Real question if the question, IS hey nfc quarterbacks you 561 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 10: want for the next three to. Five years stafford's out. 562 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 10: Of it and then it, became LIKE would i Rather 563 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 10: have Donald? OR hurtz i would Rather. Have DONALD would 564 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 10: i Rather have Donald? OR purty i would Rather. Have 565 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 10: donald dak is A. QUESTION dak I think dak has, 566 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 10: shown More but dak has never had anything close TO 567 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 10: The nfc. Championship game donald just had and. He's older 568 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 10: so then It becomes donald against the, Younger guys Donald. 569 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 8: Or golf that's a coin flipped. 570 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 10: To me and then the Younger, Guys, Caleb Jayden jordan 571 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 10: love who's about his age but feels youngs didn't play 572 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 10: Much like so those are. 573 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: ALL debates, i mean if you Look at Dak, And 574 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: donald donald has a, better Arm and donald's, MORE athletic 575 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: i Would, take DONALD and i, Like that but WHAT 576 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: do i talk? About, Traits well donald's got a bigger Arm, 577 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: than Dak and donald's, more Athletic and donald have doesn't 578 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: have as, many injuries SO and i, Like THAT but 579 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: i mean the last month of, playoff, FOOTBALL well I 580 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: mean donald has a. Great, team well you weren't saying 581 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: that when the. Season started you Weren't saying donald could 582 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Win The, super bowl so. THEY'RE there, I Mean caleb 583 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: williams has a stronger Arm than donald and is, MORE 584 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: athletic i think you, can say and that tells you 585 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: How great. Caleb Is josh allen's probably got. More horsepower 586 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys with, more horsepower not, a 587 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: lot not a Lot. Than donald, he's, big strong, moves 588 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: arm he got big, time Talent Not, josh Allen Not. 589 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Caleb williams but then he's in a class, of that, 590 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: you know Maybe not mahomes when we started at four, 591 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: Or five and then, you're, like, no no he is 592 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: better than most of. These, Guys well, Jalen hurts jalen's 593 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: not as good in, the Pocket and jalen doesn't have 594 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: the Arm Of. Sam darnold so he's a really. Good 595 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: player it is interesting though people are already immediately. Discrediting, 596 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: him well he didn't do much in the. Big, game, 597 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: well yeah He's Losing, Clint kubiak could we just Admit 598 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: since november, twenty seventh of what twenty, twenty two when 599 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: he was Benched, by carolina, came back got the. Starting 600 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: job from that, point forward he's he's got the highest 601 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: winning percentage in the league with Four, Teams Carolina, sand Francisco, Of. 602 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota seattle it's a lot, of coaches a lot, of 603 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: coordinators a lot. OF teammates I thought christian McCaffrey said 604 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: it this week At The. Super, BOWL jmac i don't 605 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: know if you. 606 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: Heard that. 607 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: Christian, McCaffrey said i've played with. Him twice my first, takeaway, 608 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: is dude that's one of the Best players i've ever. 609 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: Played with and he Played With. Luke, keikley yeah. Heard 610 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: it what was your response. 611 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 9: TO well I mean i also heard him come on 612 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 9: our show and Gas Up rock. 613 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 8: PARTY greatly i think. 614 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: HE defended i wouldn't say he. WENT overboard i. 615 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 8: GET it i wish my wife loved me as much as. 616 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: You Love. 617 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 8: SAM darnold, i, Know goodness grace all. 618 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: STOP here, I mean i've gonna maybe a, little overboard 619 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: maybe not put Up The super Bowl, ODDS again i 620 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: thought that were. VERY accurate i Think the chargers are 621 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: going To, move denver And the chargers feel like top six. 622 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: Or seven They've Got. New england but. 623 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 9: The value colin is in teams that did not make 624 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 9: the Playoffs aka Seattle And new. 625 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: England Like the ravens, to ME and i. Like it 626 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: rookie Head coach lamar wants a. New contract that's Not 627 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: A super. Bowl team they don't have a lot of 628 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: good players on. That rosters they Had Six, pro, bowlers 629 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: okay and what's gonna happen? Next year are they all 630 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: going to? 631 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 8: BE back, I Mean. 632 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Hile hamilton will be one or two standouts. 633 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 8: On defense. That's it are you sure they Had Six? Pro? 634 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 9: Bowlers, eric sorry? Time Out pro bowl. Doesn't Matter shaduur 635 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 9: sanders is In The. 636 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: Pro, bowl well just because chaduer made it doesn't mean. 637 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 8: It DOESN'T but, i Mean the patriots couldn't have anybody 638 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 8: In The. Pro Bowl the broncos couldn't because of their. 639 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 8: Playoff game SO. 640 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 9: Like i, i'm not let's not Go To. 641 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 8: PRO bowl. I don't i just don't Think the ravens 642 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 8: have a. 643 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: Talented roster ravens League high oh? My Bad Nine pro? Bowl, 644 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: nine okay you've got him Being. The titans they've Got 645 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: Nine pro. 646 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 8: BOWL ya, i, mean okay they're Not. THE titans i 647 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 8: just don't THINK they're. 648 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't have A Pro The pro bowl now is 649 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: just isn't it some like competition. Or something. 650 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 8: It's nonsense, come on well we. 651 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 9: Know? 652 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: That, yeah Yeah These super? Bowl odds where Are? The 653 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: bears where Are? The broncos where Are? 654 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: The? 655 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Chargers that, to me those are. THE three i would 656 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: take those All Over new England? And bold where Are? 657 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 8: The Vikings New? 658 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: York giants one hundred? To, one wow there's one. 659 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 8: For you Love. The giants you said they're doubling their win. 660 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: Total from four. TO eight i Didn't Say john harball 661 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: like he split the Down and. I'M serious i Ain't 662 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: the bears at twenty five. TO one i don't hate that. 663 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: The division your kids don't. Need college they could easily 664 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: do a. Vocational school don't go crazy on a five. Two, 665 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: nine yeah you lot of good jobs down. The block 666 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: kids need to work hard. These days what. 667 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 8: Are the jaguars with, Your Guy? Liam? 668 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: Cullen interesting see. 669 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: You tomorrow the hurt