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Speaker 1: He just he's just impatient and wants a deal and

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Speaker 1: wants to and look, there's still a part of Zelensky

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Speaker 1: that he views as somehow part of his first impeachment.

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Speaker 1: And so that is something that I don't think Trump's

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Speaker 1: ever going to drop, which is why it's He's so

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Speaker 1: easily brought back on sort of the pro Putin side

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Speaker 1: of things. Whenever somebody gets there, get get gets there,

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Speaker 1: uh get gets sort of into that, you know, gets

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Speaker 1: their claws back into him on that side of things, right,

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Speaker 1: it appears that Steve Woodcoff is a pretty easy mark

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Speaker 1: for the Russians. They always seem to get the best

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Speaker 1: possible version of what they're trying to get across, at

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Speaker 1: times even better than they thought they could get. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. But I'm skeptical that this deal is that

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Speaker 1: this one that that that the US is now shopping

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Speaker 1: to the Russians, that has a lot more security guarantees

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Speaker 1: for Ukraine, that probably doesn't eliminate the possibility that Ukraine

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Speaker 1: can join NATO. I can't imagine Ukraine agreeing to anything

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Speaker 1: that would limit where they could get their security guarantees from.

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be if you told me that

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Speaker 1: you know, they've tried. Zelenski shows up in mar A

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Speaker 1: Lago for Thanksgiving dinner and they have a great relationship.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean we get anywhere there on the long

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Speaker 1: term on this front. Until Putin is convinced he can't

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Speaker 1: win this militarily, I don't think we're going to see

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Speaker 1: us he's fire, And right now Putin still thinks that

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Speaker 1: he can. He said, here's the thing, there's no Yes,

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Speaker 1: they hold elections, but you know there's no pressure for

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Speaker 1: him to get something done before he's quote turned out right.

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Speaker 1: Putin will play a longer game. I do think that

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Speaker 1: he knows Trump is a lame doc and that he

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Speaker 1: probably only has one more year to sort of take

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Speaker 1: advantage of the fact that this is going to be

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Speaker 1: the most I don't want to say the most pro

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Speaker 1: Putin president you could have, but certainly the least oppositional

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Speaker 1: to Putin that you're going to have, whoever the next

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Speaker 1: president is, unless it's JdE Vance. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: going to have somebody as soft on Putin as you

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Speaker 1: have a Trump. And Putin is smart enough to know

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Speaker 1: this and know that his window is closing. So does

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Speaker 1: does he see you know? At one point and this

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Speaker 1: is a this is going to be a question of

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Speaker 1: whether Rubyo, Vance and Trump can all get into the

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Speaker 1: same on the same page on this. But there might

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Speaker 1: be a window where they can make Putin think the

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Speaker 1: best deal you're ever going to get from an American

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Speaker 1: president is the one that's on the table at some point.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't take this, Trump becomes less powerful,

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Speaker 1: has less ability to get this through and you get

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Speaker 1: to the point where a z Lenski or Ukraine would

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Speaker 1: rather make the bet to see who the next president is.

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Speaker 1: And then there's one other aspect to this deal. It's

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Speaker 1: possible that Trump is so retreated from what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We do provide valuable intelligence still to the Ukrainians, but

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Speaker 1: we're not providing that many weapons anymore. There's sort of

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Speaker 1: an indirect way that we're providing weapons of Ukraine, give it,

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Speaker 1: sell it to NATO. NATO then sells it to Ukraine, right,

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Speaker 1: and some sort of or the EU gives it or

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Speaker 1: sells it to Ukraine. But frankly, it's Europe that is

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Speaker 1: providing a lion's share of the military support for Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: So it isn't clear how much leverage Trump actually has

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Speaker 1: over Zelenski. There's I think perceived leverage that he has

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Speaker 1: in Zelenski does not want an antagonistic relationship with Trump.

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Speaker 1: But given how little we're now supporting the Ukrainians beyond intelligence,

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Speaker 1: I think there's an open question of really how much

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Speaker 1: leverage does Trump have. Trump had real leverage on net Yahoo,

496
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Speaker 1: he could force him to sign that deal. He does

497
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Speaker 1: not have the same kind of leverage at the moment,

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Speaker 1: because he's chosen to take that leverage away right by

499
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Speaker 1: pulling back. You know, most of what's being sent over

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Speaker 1: to Ukraine directly from the United States, our deals that

501
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Speaker 1: Biden cut, and they're just fulfilling the rest of those deals.

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Speaker 1: So I think that also will contribute to whether there's

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Speaker 1: you know, whether frankly, the United States is the proper

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Speaker 1: mediator here at this point, or whether it's going to

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Speaker 1: be the Europeans that are going to have to be

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Speaker 1: the chief negotiating sort of mediator here, or maybe it's Turkey, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, in that respect, So I think it's I

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Speaker 1: think we ought to be a bit skeptical of any

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Speaker 1: deal coming together. One other thing, by the way, we're

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Speaker 1: noticing with this debate about this peace deal, right, Vance

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512
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Speaker 1: have been the point people getting this very Russia centric

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Speaker 1: deal that has since been rejected. Now you've got sort

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Speaker 1: of Marko Rubio working with the Europeans getting a bit

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Speaker 1: more of a Ukrainian centric So we're starting to see

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Speaker 1: the real split, Right, there's a Rubio wing, there's a

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Speaker 1: van swing, perhaps Vance and Rubio are partnership that continues

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Speaker 1: forward in twenty twenty eight. Who knows. And I think

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Speaker 1: that that's the other thing that has happened, and I

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Speaker 1: think is why I'm skeptical Trump has any chance of

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Speaker 1: bringing of sort of keeping this coalition from fracturing. At

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Speaker 1: the moment, I think you have a whole bunch of folks,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Marjorie Taylor Green, whether it's Ted Cruz, whether

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Speaker 1: it's JD. Vance, whether it's Marco Rubio, who are all

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Speaker 1: starting to think about life post Trump and seeing what

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Speaker 1: part of the Trump coalition can they best appeal to.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're starting to see some of those

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Speaker 1: lines start to develop. And that's yet another sign of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Right that you've got more people focused

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Speaker 1: seven and twenty twenty eight, You've got more Republicans thinking

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six isn't going to be a good year

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Speaker 1: get a job and then maybe run for office again

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Speaker 1: in twenty seven or twenty eight. But the point is

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Speaker 1: So this fracturing is starting. You're starting to see It's

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Speaker 1: you're starting to see more cracks, and I suspect more

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Speaker 1: you know, with family and Thanksgiving, we'll come out over

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Speaker 1: you should show up to my house with a pie.

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Speaker 1: I will demand that. In fact, I prefer a pie

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Speaker 1: little more into the pies. Frankly, I'd rather get if

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Speaker 1: you're going to make me eat sugar, I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: a nice piece of pie than have that sugar hidden

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Speaker 1: an alcohol. Right. But I tease, but I do. I

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Speaker 1: you my top five list of the five things you've

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Speaker 1: got that I think you have to have at a

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner to be satisfied. Number one is a turkey

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Speaker 1: that isn't a roast turkey, whether it's smoke turkey, whether

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Speaker 1: it's fried turkey. At the Chuck Todd Thanksgiving, you get

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Speaker 1: all three bright the way we do roasted, we do fried,

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Speaker 1: and we do smoke. Because I want I want a variety, or,

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Speaker 1: as my son says, we're doing everything. We can to

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Speaker 1: make turkey taste like chicken. He's not wrong about that,

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Speaker 1: but you've got to provide more than just the traditional

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Speaker 1: turkey if you're not providing another type of turkey, particularly

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Speaker 1: fried or smoked in particular, and frankly, bonus points if

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Speaker 1: you're a Thanksgiving that wants to add in a brisket

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Speaker 1: or maybe even a ham. If that's your that's your choice.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't we stuck with turkey for a while.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to do turkey. I've taken turkey off

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Speaker 1: my winter holiday menu, if you will. So that's number one.

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Speaker 1: Number two. Macaroni and cheese cast role. I'm sorry, it is.

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Speaker 1: It is an important staple. If you don't have it,

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Speaker 1: you're you know now. To me, it is it is,

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Speaker 1: I must have. It is not a nice to have.

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Speaker 1: And I think there was a time when I was

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Speaker 1: kid's Oh that's the kid's plate. And now there's so

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Speaker 1: many better ways. I do one that uses all sorts

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Speaker 1: of gourmet cheeses, and I really actually bake it. This

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Speaker 1: a box mac and cheese. I want I want a

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Speaker 1: real uh, I want a real attempt where you where

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Speaker 1: you mixed your cheeses and your pasta and you put

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Speaker 1: some effort into it. Don't don't give me any powdered

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Speaker 1: cheese on that. So you got to have a diversity

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Speaker 1: of type turkey. You gotta have your mac and cheese.

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Speaker 1: Number three is a sweet potato castrole of some sort,

642
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: and it's got to have marshmallows. If you don't have marshmallows,

643
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: what's the point of sweet potatoes? Right, and go all in.

644
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: It should feel like a dessert, Okay, it should be deserty.

645
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: The most deserty, the more deserty, the better, I might argue.

646
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: You know. In fact, I realized I might like sweet

647
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: potato pie more than pumpkin pie. Although I will tell

648
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: you the best time to have pumpkin pie, and it's

649
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: not after Thanksgiving dinner. I'll tell you in a minute. Again,

650
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: these are just my rules, but certainly if you invite

651
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: me to your Thanksgiving I'm going to judge you on

652
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: whether you have these items. So there you go, right,

653
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: your sweet potato castle very deserty, all right. I don't

654
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: just want sweet potatoes. I want it. I want a

655
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: lot of marshmallows. I want some brown sugar. I want

656
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: some pecans, right, and I'm I don't care if they're

657
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: pecans or pecans right, meaning I don't care how you

658
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: pronounce it. Number four, And this is an important one

659
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: because I have dropped the ball on this over the

660
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: last few Thanksgiving. A green bean mushroom castrole. And you

661
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: know what I want the can. This is one I

662
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: said no to powdered cheese. I do want Campbell's creama

663
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: mushroom soup concentrate. You want that out of the can

664
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: mushroom soup, because let's be honest, you don't have time

665
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: to make a fun scratch cream of mushroom soup. But

666
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: that cream of mushroom you know, now, you know you've

667
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: got a diversity of adults there. You might want to

668
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: get the lower salt version of the cream of mushroom soup,

669
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: all right, because it does get sometimes canned soup can

670
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: be a little too salty. So I'm not gonna do that.

671
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: Get those crispy onion rings of some sort, those crispy

672
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: fried onions. My god, it's just no reason to make

673
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: it from scratch. You can buy those, but you don't

674
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: have those crispy onion things on there, then you're not

675
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: doing the green bean castrole, right. And then the fifth thing,

676
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: and this is the most This is very important. It's

677
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: not the most important. The most important is having an

678
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: alternative to your turkey, to your roasted turkey. I'm not

679
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: saying you can not have one, but you better have

680
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: an alternative fried. I always fry a turkey, smoked brisket,

681
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: you name it. You gotta have an alternativent. But the fifth

682
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: thing leftover pumpkin pie with coffee the next morning. I

683
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: think pumpkin pie is the single best breakfast leftover pie

684
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: to have. I think you do that well. A little

685
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: bit of the extra whipped cream that you hopefully made

686
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: the night before, you made for Thanksgiving dessert night. But

687
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: you know you're almost too stuffed to eat dessert. You

688
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: know you'll have you might have a half a piece

689
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: of pie after that, you know, after the everybody leaves,

690
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: and you might have a little something. But you're pretty stuff.

691
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: But I'm trust me. Piece of pumpkin pie that's been

692
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: chilled in the refrigerator that Friday morning, throw a little

693
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: whipped cream on it. Get your coffee out. Forget any

694
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice, Lotte. That's the best way to enjoy your

695
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: pumpkin and your coffee. And you have it so aparly

696
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: like a real American, right, you don't have it in

697
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: some sort of fancy conglomerate high there. Anyway, I'm being

698
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: a little snarky about real American But why not. Why

699
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: can't I have a little fun. So there it is.

700
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: There's your top five. The five must have to truly

701
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: have what I would say is the correct Thanksgiving and

702
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: certainly my checklist of a successful Thanksgiving meal. All right,

703
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: So with my authoritarian views on Thanksgiving out of the

704
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: way and having a little fun with that top five,

705
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: let's let me give you a quick preview of the

706
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: college football weekend. Let me just tell you this. First

707
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: of all, I am going to the pit game. Looks

708
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: like I'm going to the pit game. My University of

709
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Miami daughter has been on me on this, so we're

710
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: certainly we are making plans to make that happen. It

711
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: is a three and a half hour drive. We've already

712
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: mapped out the drive. This is the same day trip

713
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: noon kickoff, get up early Saturday night morning. You know

714
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: it's doable it all. It all depends on some sort

715
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: of you know, we got other visitors to juggle and

716
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: all of that thing, so I may be witnessed there too.

717
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: As my daughter said, could be the last game of

718
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the year for Miami. Obviously, we hope it is not.

719
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: And no, some bullshit pop Tarts Bowl is not that

720
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: interesting to me. I have no interest in it. I

721
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: have no interest in any Bowl game that has not counts. Okay,

722
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I am out on those, at least this year for

723
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the nursery of Miami. But let me tell you what

724
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not going to sit here and predict this,

725
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: and I sort of I think I hinted at you before,

726
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: but I given how little chaos we got last weekend, right,

727
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: there were no major upsets. The top fourteen ranked teams

728
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: all won. Right, there was literally nothing changes. Well you

729
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: know it's the top fourteen teams won. But the let

730
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: me just paint you a scenario that is not an

731
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: unrealistic scenario that after Saturday night is over, we could

732
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: have the following teams be ten and two. Okay, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.

733
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: We could have twelve, ten, and two teams. And this

734
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: is none of this is unrealistic. Ole Miss, they lose

735
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: to Mississippi State, If Utah wins, they're ten and two.

736
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: If Georgia Tech beats Georgia, they're both ten and two. Miami,

737
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: if they beat Pit they're tenant two. If Michigan bets

738
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State, they're tenant two. If Texas Tech loses this week,

739
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: they're ten and two. If BYU loses their ten and two.

740
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: If Oregon loses to Washington, not an insignificant idea, they

741
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: could be tenant two. If Vandy beats Tennessee, they would

742
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: be tenant two. If UVA wins, they would be ten

743
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and two. If Alabama beats Auburn, they will be ten

744
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: and two. And if Notre Dame wins, they'll be ten

745
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: and two. That is your true chaos scenario for the

746
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: in that way. And I'm not saying you're going to

747
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: have all of those ten and two teams, but I'll

748
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: just say this, I smell a lot of questionable games.

749
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: So let me start with Ole Miss. Mississippi State. We're

750
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: going to get that on Friday. Here's a real question.

751
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: When Florida State lost its starting quarterback, the ESPN Invitational

752
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Committee decided they didn't want to invite Florida State. They

753
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: for some reason decided winning the conference without Jordan Travis

754
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: shutting out Louisville wasn't enough. It is really an inexplicable

755
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: decision and only explained by ESPN's desire to just put

756
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: on a more entertain what they thought would be a

757
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: more entertaining football team, rather than the most worthy who

758
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: earned it on the field. This is the beginning of

759
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: their decision on the field. And by the way, I

760
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: see you, Kirk kurb Street, I see you claiming he says,

761
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: the longer a season goes on, the less head to

762
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: head matters. He is already setting up this narrative that

763
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame should get in over Miami, regardless of the

764
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: fact that Notre Dame doesn't have a single victory over

765
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: a top twenty five team unless Pitt gets ranked into

766
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: the top twenty five this week, because guess what USC

767
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: is going to be out. Maybe Pitt gets put into

768
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: the top twenty five, but they don't have any top

769
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: twenty five wins, and that is still to me a

770
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: should be a problem, and for any other team not

771
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: named Notre Dame, it would be a problem. But I

772
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: see what you're doing there, mister Herbstreet, by setting up

773
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: this narrative that somehow head to head should be less

774
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: and no other sport is head to head. Ever, less

775
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: head to head is usually the number one tiebreaker you have. Okay,

776
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: but I'm going to get off of that. But in

777
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: all seriousness, here's a question for you. If Ole Miss

778
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: loses to Mississippi State and Lane Kiffin announces on Saturday

779
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: that he's going to be the next coach of LSU,

780
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: does Old Miss get treated by this committee the way

781
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: Florida State was treated when they lost their quarterback. Hey,

782
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: you don't have like at the end of the day,

783
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: if this is if this is a TV show. My

784
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: friend mister Cornheiser likes to say this is a TV show,

785
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: this is not. You know, you're not worried about the

786
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: ethics of whether the most deserving teams are getting in there.

787
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: It's all about putting together your TV show. Well, isn't

788
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin the star of Ole Miss? Can you I

789
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: challenge you non Ole Miss fans to name me three

790
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: players on Old Mess. Trust me, I'm a college football

791
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: obsessive fan, and I know there's the kid that was

792
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: quarterback at a D two school. I can't remember his name.

793
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart was the quarterback last year, but I don't

794
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: remember the guy this year. The point is Lane Kiffin's

795
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: the star. If Lane Kiffin's not going to be coaching,

796
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: is that enough to actually plus a lost in Mississippi State?

797
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Does Ole Miss get dropped out completely? I don't think

798
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: that's an a crazy idea. Let me get you to

799
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: the Georgia Tech Georgia game. On one hand, this game

800
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: is meaningless. It certainly doesn't matter for Georgia. George's in

801
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: the playoff no matter what. But if Georgia Tech wins

802
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: a game they almost won last year and went to

803
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: what seven thousand overtimes? If Georgia Tech wins this came

804
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: in their ten and two, it's suddenly of the ten

805
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: and two teams, the only the only other team with

806
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: a win over George's Alabama. Trust me, as a Miami fan,

807
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: this has to be really nervous. He went over Georgia

808
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: by Georgia Tech might be better then Miami's went over

809
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Just something to think about on the Georgia

810
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: Tech front. Then, of course there's the Miami situation. How

811
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: about Michigan beating Ohio State ten and two. Michigan that

812
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: beats Ohio State, they're a lot for the playoff? Right? Well?

813
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: Whose spot did they take? Yet another spot that I'm

814
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: worried about. Put it this way, I'm worried about U

815
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: of M taking um spot on that one b YU

816
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: in Texas Tech? Are they the Big twelve not going

817
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: to get two teams? And what happens if b YU

818
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: beats Texas Tech in the in the Big Twelve title game?

819
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: That's that's obviously a next week problem. We still have

820
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: it this week problem and nothing again, nothing should surprise

821
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: you this week. And that's why Washington defeating Oregon does

822
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: this drop? How much you know Oregon doesn't have? If

823
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: they lose to Washington, there's gonna be real questions. Has

824
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: Oregon beaten anybody? They lost Indiana? If USC is not

825
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: considered a top twenty five team, and they may not

826
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: be after this week, their victory over Penn State, isn't aging? Well?

827
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: Is Oregon going to be suddenly especially if Michigan wins

828
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: and there's a decision made by this committee, they don't

829
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: you know? And then so that you've got Notre Dame,

830
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: You've got Miami. You know, is Oregon on the outside

831
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: looking in? And does that become problematic to them? Just

832
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: something to think about there. Vanderbilt, if they beat Tennessee,

833
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: they don't have great wins, but their losses are not

834
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: bad either. Right, they have the Alabama loss. I think

835
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: they have a Texas loss that was pretty close. I

836
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: think they need an Old Miss loss that had to

837
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: be considered. And if you told me Old Miss without

838
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: Lane Kevin versus Diego Pavia with Vandy, I think again,

839
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: if you're just making a TV show, you're gonna put

840
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia. Vandy's the Diego Pavia h Vandy team in

841
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: over the lane, Kiffen lists Old Miss rebels. Just something

842
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: to think about. And then finally, I want to close

843
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: with this. I know that we're just assuming Notre Dame

844
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: beats Stanford, but Notre Dame plays Stanford all the every

845
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: year Stanford cares about this game. Andrew Luck is the

846
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: general manager there. He sort of also appears to be

847
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: the guy that helps motivate these players at times. He

848
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: got them all fired up for that Cow game. I

849
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: let's just say that, I look, do I think if

850
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: they played ten times. Seven of those times Notre Dame

851
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: wins by five touchdowns or more. Yes, but we all

852
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: know this weird last game of the season business. Stanford's

853
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. This is the lat for some players

854
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: on Stanford will be the last time they ever played football,

855
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: and you just never know. And again there's this sort

856
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: of Stanford pride, there's sort of a bit of an

857
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: academic rivalry with Notre Dame. At times, I'm just saying

858
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm not as convinced. I certainly am not going to

859
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: be touching this game financially in either direction, because the

860
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: uncertainty would concern me in the same way that Alabama

861
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: should be at Auburn and the Iron Bowl. But my god,

862
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: my son's first memory in college football is the infamous

863
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: kick six. You know, he distinctly remembers just the pandemonium

864
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: that my wife and I had, and we didn't even

865
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: care about the outcome. We sort of root for Auburn

866
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: because we've got family members that went to Auburn and

867
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: root for Auburn, and we're if you're going to make

868
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: us pick between Auburn and Alabama, We're going to root

869
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: for Auburn each time. But it was just such an

870
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: amazing thing, something you've never seen before and probably will

871
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: never see in another thirty years. In the same way

872
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: that anything can happen in that game. Just trust me,

873
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: don't be shocked if anything can happen in that Notre

874
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Dame Stanford game. You may be saying, maybe Chuck just

875
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: wants this to happen because a Notre Dame loss would

876
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: be so helpful to Miami. You know, I'm not saying

877
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I certainly would be smiling if

878
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: it happened. I'm just being realistic here. If I didn't

879
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: care so much, I will tell you this, all these

880
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: ten and two teams hurt Miami's chances. Trust me, I

881
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: don't want more ten and two teams. I want fewer

882
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: ten and two teams. But the amount of potential chaos

883
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: we have and we get twelve ten and two teams

884
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: that don't include the teams that we know are already

885
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: going to be in the playoff Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia,

886
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: uh and UH. I guess at text A and M

887
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: so you already sort of so you're gonna have essentially

888
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: six spots because you have these other conferenceats, you're gonna

889
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: six spots, twelve ten and two teams vying for six slots.

890
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: Put it this way, the big ten idea of twenty

891
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: four teams in the playoff will suddenly be a lot

892
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: more interesting, uh and a lot more accommodating. So there

893
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: you go. I am sort of prepared for chaos this weekend.

894
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: And hell, I actually somehow think Miami's going to end

895
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: up in the a SEC title game, and it was

896
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: it will absolve the ESPN executives from that from the

897
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: horrible decision that they clearly want to make, and it

898
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: will be decided on the field between a Miami and SUMU.

899
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: But I can tell you what I feel like is

900
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: coming in my tot household is that I have my

901
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: two kids schools playing against each other in the ACC

902
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: title game. Because that is, if Miami beats Pitt, SMU

903
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: beats Cal, and Duke and Virginia both lose, then I

904
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: think it's Miami and SMU. SMU loses to Cal and

905
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: UVA and Duke lose two. That's where I'm not sure

906
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: how this plays out at may end up being Miami

907
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: and Georgia Tech. Not one hundred percent sure on that one,

908
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: but I'm not betting on that three way outcome. I

909
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: have this sneaking suspicion that if Miamian's up in this

910
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: acc title game, it's going to end up being a

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00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:41,520
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Speaker 1: All right. So with that, let me sneak in a

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Speaker 1: few questions. Ask Chuck. First question comes from Dan Dear Chuck.

941
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: If AI becomes capable of taking over nearly every job,

942
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't that include the roles held by CEO billionaires as well?

943
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: What would an economic reckoning in that scenario look like?

944
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: Does AI present a threat to capitalism if it eliminates

945
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: upward mobility, and if upward mobility disappears, could we see

946
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: a resurgence of communism or some other economic model. Dan,

947
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I've seen more and more stories

948
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: about how actually the job, that the job of CEO

949
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: would actually be best suited to be taken over by AI,

950
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: because you would you you would, you would want pros

951
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: and co and every decision and that if you just

952
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: a if a CEO. And apparently more CEOs are using

953
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: AI to help them in the decision making process on

954
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: tough decisions. So the more you use it, yeah, I

955
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: mean at that point, you know, look at how many

956
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: we're hearing this that football coaches are using AI, Baseball

957
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: teams are using AI to make decisions on certain scenarios.

958
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: You probably don't want to know how many high school

959
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: football coaches might be using artificial intelligence to decide whether

960
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth and three depending on

961
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: where they are in a certain situation. So I continue,

962
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: I know where you're going here, and I think that

963
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: I hear you. But here's just can I here's a

964
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: question that I think we all forget when it comes

965
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: to AI. Where's these large language models going to get

966
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: their new information? Do we think that there's no new

967
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: Is there a point where they don't? A large language

968
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: model needs no new information to come up with new information.

969
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: You sure I'm going here? I know it sounds like

970
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: it sounds overly meta and what I'm describing, But you

971
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: know it's like, you know, could AI take over journalism? Okay,

972
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: but don't you need the live person to observe something

973
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: new happening and report on it. Like in order for

974
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: a large language model to get more information, somebody has

975
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: got to be providing this information. And I know that

976
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: there's this idea that what we're going to have a

977
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: large language models are going to create new information based

978
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: on old information and then consume that new information and

979
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: then make that their new information. I know it sounds

980
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: it's probably making it's making my head hurt trying to

981
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: describe what I just did. It's probably just made your

982
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: head hurt hearing it. So while I I understand the

983
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: point you're making, this is where I really think that

984
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: that there are limits here to AI. And here's the

985
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: thing I mean, look at the look what Elon Musk

986
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: may be doing all of us a favor. The fact

987
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: that he programmed his AI to claim that Elon Musk

988
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: is like the superhuman, you know, the best athlete, the

989
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: best intelligence, the best dresser, the best sex fiend, whatever

990
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: it is. Right, Groc says, Elon Musk is the perfect

991
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: human specimen. I don't know. I look at a sort

992
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: of a weird looking dude, so I don't think we've

993
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: perfected anything. He's got a weird personality, so he's I

994
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's the ideal of any version of the

995
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: human being human species, because I don't think there is

996
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: such thing as an ideal. Right, one person's ideal is

997
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: another person's problem. But the point is the fact that

998
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: he programmed his AI to come up with those answers,

999
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: in some ways is reassuring because it should send the

1000
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: message that hey, AI doesn't have all the answers, and

1001
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: that you're still going to want the human elm. And

1002
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: this is where I go back to something man. The

1003
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: human species has survived quite a long time in this planet.

1004
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: And if you don't think the human species isn't going

1005
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: to fight for its own existence over some frickin robots,

1006
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: then you really underestimate the human species. Darwin didn't and

1007
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either. Dan next question comes from Chad hey Check.

1008
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: I am an Army civil affairs officer, and during a

1009
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: recent union discussion, I argue that World War One, not

1010
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: World War Two, has been more impactful in today's global conflict,

1011
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: from the Middle East to Ukraine. Americans often view wars

1012
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: through a narrow, US centric lens, but World War One's

1013
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: legacy is everywhere. I recommend the First World War by

1014
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: John Keegan and Martin Gilbert and the podcast World War

1015
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: One Not So Quiet on the Western Front. One last question,

1016
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: has Trump given license for racist and misogynists to become

1017
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: more overt? And how do we move forward when so

1018
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: many feel emboldened by his example? Well, I certainly think

1019
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: that we're in a moment where they think, to answer

1020
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: your last question, where there's you're not going to, quote

1021
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: unquote get canceled for expressing these forms. But you know,

1022
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: all I would say is to these folks that express

1023
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: this racism and narcissism, good luck breeding, good luck mating.

1024
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: You know you're not going to find many mates out

1025
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: there that want to breed with racist and misogynists. So

1026
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that just believes that, particularly

1027
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: the women of society in general, are just not going

1028
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: to want to date these misogynists, if you will. So

1029
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: maybe I'm being a little Pollyannish on this, but I

1030
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of think that I appreciate people self iding as

1031
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: racist and misogynists because I know who I want nothing

1032
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: to do with, and I think they do this for

1033
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot of folks. So I do think that while

1034
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: they think that they've gotten stationed, because you know, Trump

1035
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: has insisted that certain of these people, you know, you

1036
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: give them a second chance or a third chance or

1037
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: a fourth chance, or you know, you pardon them or whatever.

1038
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: I guess I don't. I don't fully I don't fully

1039
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: believe that that. Like I kind of think we're gonna

1040
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: actually turn hard against these folks in the post Trump era.

1041
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: I do. Hey, I have a couple more though. I

1042
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: have a couple more recommendations on the World War One

1043
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: front that I wanted to share. I promised you a

1044
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: few others. I'm gonna have a more formal version in

1045
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: my substack next week. I took this week off of substack,

1046
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: but there's a set of podcasts that a friend alerted

1047
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: me to and I've started them and it's really good.

1048
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: It's called Empire, and they did one on the East

1049
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: India Company and it's a pretty long set of episodes.

1050
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: And then they also that was its first season they

1051
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: did on the British Empire in India and the second

1052
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: season is on the Ottoman Empire. So people were asking

1053
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: me about a good podcast on the Ottoman Empire, the

1054
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: Empire podcast series, and again if you look up Empire,

1055
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: East India Company and the second seasons on the Ottoman Empire,

1056
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: you can take a look at that. I'll have these

1057
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: links in my substack next week. And then of course

1058
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: Dan Carlin's hardcore history. He's done this, He's done a

1059
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: variety of episodes on various various parts of the Ottoman Empire.

1060
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: I would recommend I feel like the Dan Carlin stuff

1061
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: has always been pretty thorough and presents opposing points of

1062
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: view and when there's some disagreement on historical analysis. So

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Speaker 1: I've I've been fairly pleased with his work over the years.

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Speaker 1: As well. Again, I'm going to have a more concrete

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Speaker 1: set of recommendations. I'm going to take a look at

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Speaker 1: these as well from Chad and curate a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff. Three or four books that are worth reading,

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Speaker 1: and three or four podcasts that are worth listening to.

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Speaker 1: Next question comes from Chris k from Evil South Carolina.

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, the an Apple bomb interview was grounding.

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Speaker 1: It was a good reminder of things that may not

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Speaker 1: have the nation's attention. My question, I'm sitting here watching

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Speaker 1: Pitt throttle Georgia Tech. Is it possible that teams would

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Speaker 1: play down against Notre Dame? If so, what does that

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Speaker 1: mean for the program? Will they be forced into a conference?

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Speaker 1: I love this. I love that I've got an audience

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Speaker 1: that's willing to absorb an Apple bomb and then ask

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Speaker 1: me about Pitt Georgia Tech. This is why I love

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Speaker 1: this new world of media. Look, I think it does

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Speaker 1: especially Here's what I will say. As popular as Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame might be with ESPN executives for TV ratings purposes,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that the other people on that committee,

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Speaker 1: coming from the power for Conferences, know what a pain

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Speaker 1: in the ass. Conference games are conference road games against

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Speaker 1: whether if you're in the SEC, it's never easy playing.

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Speaker 1: I know Misssippi State's doesn't look like they're a tough

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Speaker 1: team to play. It's never easy to play with that

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Speaker 1: goddamn cow bell ringing in your right and in the ACC.

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01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: Trust me, it sucks to play in the cold weather

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Speaker 1: in Boston when you're playing Boston College and I hate

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Speaker 1: playing on that horrible surface, that horrible turf up in BC.

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Speaker 1: Or ask SMU what it's like to play in Winston

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: Salem to play Wake Forest. So again, these may be

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Speaker 1: places that you think are cake walks, but when you're

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Speaker 1: playing these folks every year and these conference road games,

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Speaker 1: they're pain in the ass. And the fact is it

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Speaker 1: is true that Pitt didn't play their best players that

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Speaker 1: were questionable on health in that Notre dameing game saved

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Speaker 1: them for Georgia Tech because they have a path to

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff just through the ACC. They were

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Speaker 1: never going to get an at large bid, so they

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Speaker 1: knew what they were doing and their coach was probably right,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get more of this. For instance, does

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Speaker 1: Georgia need the Georgia Tech win? You know, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can say it's you know, wouldn't be great for Georgia's recruiting.

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Speaker 1: George is not going to be recruiting problems. If you're Georgia,

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Speaker 1: how seriously do you take this game? And frankly, if

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Speaker 1: you know you're in the college football playoff if you're

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Speaker 1: in the SEC, if you're Texas A and M, how

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Speaker 1: seriously do you take the Texas game? So you're going

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01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 1: to have some of that, but until Notre Dame doesn't

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Speaker 1: make the playoff because of the fact that they have

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Speaker 1: teams that essentially took the Notre Dame week off. Right,

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01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: Navy did it and they rested players and instead saved

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Speaker 1: them for the week later. And Pitt Now you might

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Speaker 1: think nobody who ever did that before against Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: That's true, but conferences have never mattered more in the

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Speaker 1: path to the playoff, so I and now that conferences.

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Speaker 1: So Miami just had to cancel a series with South

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Speaker 1: Carolina because both the SEC and the ACC went to

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Speaker 1: a mandatory nine conference games and ten Power four games.

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Speaker 1: What that really means is, so South Carolina already has

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Speaker 1: an out of conference home and home with Clemson that

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Speaker 1: they play every year, and they were going to do

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Speaker 1: a second game for a home and home over the

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Speaker 1: next two years with Miami. Well, with these with both

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Speaker 1: the SEC going to a night eighth conference game and

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Speaker 1: the ACC agreed to a ninth conference game, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to have as many of these cross conference games,

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Speaker 1: so it's actually gonna be harder for Notre Dame. I

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Speaker 1: think to schedule in general. You know, Miami wants to

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Speaker 1: is going to try to schedule Notre Dame as much

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Speaker 1: as possible. But I do think that Notre Dame in

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Speaker 1: order to schedule teams, especially with the mandatory ninth conference game,

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Speaker 1: that all these conferences are going to frankly because ESPN

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Speaker 1: and Fox want want more of that content for them.

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Speaker 1: That could be the trigger to force Notre Dame into

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Speaker 1: a conference. Next question comes from Lisa V. He says, hey, check,

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Speaker 1: please pursue the Qatar Air Force base that is going

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Speaker 1: to be built in Mountain Home, Idaho. Huh, I live

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Speaker 1: in Idaho, and I have seen news coverage on this

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Speaker 1: and have seen nothing on the national news. I've watched

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Speaker 1: you for years and believe you're the one to blow

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Speaker 1: this up. Lisa V. Thank you for that. I will

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Speaker 1: look into it. I will admit that seemed I cannot

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Speaker 1: imagine we are letting a foreign country built a base

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Speaker 1: on our soil. That would be a bit unusual and

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01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: would be pretty bad politics. And I would say this

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Speaker 1: if we did do it, the last place I would

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Speaker 1: expect Katar to do. This would be an Idaho where

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Speaker 1: they would I think be even less welcome. I say

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Speaker 1: that meaning I don't think we would want any foreign

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Speaker 1: power there, but I think I don't think Idaho would

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Speaker 1: be a place for that. If you did it, if

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Speaker 1: you told me Puerto Rico or why you know, one

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Speaker 1: of our something in the Pacific of the Atlantic, I

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Speaker 1: guess you could come up with a scenario. And certainly

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Speaker 1: we've done stuff with the UK and with sort of

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Speaker 1: near you know, sort of close in allies, but this

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Speaker 1: would be something else. So I have got to take

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Speaker 1: a look at what that's about, and I will get

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Speaker 1: back to you. I appreciate the question, and then finally

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Speaker 1: do this one more question from Judd in Montreal. I

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Speaker 1: just my daughter and wife just took a trip to

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Speaker 1: Montreal the time there. Hello check Love, you're on biased

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: historical perspective to the current political chaos. Well appreciate you noticing,

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Speaker 1: and thank you. Would you please find a guest to

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Speaker 1: explore the paradox between the recent Supreme Court ruling that

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Speaker 1: the president is immune for prosecution on official acts with

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Speaker 1: the take care clause of the US Constitution our Article two,

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Speaker 1: section three, clause four that the president quote shall take

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Speaker 1: care that the laws be faithfully executed versus all the

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Speaker 1: administration's federal court losses. Thanks, that's a very good topic.

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Speaker 1: I just that is that is a fair point. I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to see what some of my legal experts would

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Speaker 1: have to say on that. I have an interview I

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Speaker 1: did with one of my favorite legal experts, Sarah Iskert,

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Speaker 1: who works for The Dispatch. We didn't get into that

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Speaker 1: specific issue because I've already taped it. But if we hadn't,

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Speaker 1: I would have gotten into that. But I will, I

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Speaker 1: promise I will. I will get a better answer to

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Speaker 1: this question because I don't have Look, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think Trump really knows the Constitution. Okay, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he really knows it. He certainly doesn't,

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Speaker 1: you know. You know, give me a member of Congress

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Speaker 1: that carries around a pocket constitution any day of the week.

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Speaker 1: I love those guys, whether they're the left or the right,

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Speaker 1: because they look at it, they care, and it means

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Speaker 1: that they want everything to be seen as constitutional. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say, I don't think Donald Trump's ever been caught

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Speaker 1: with a pocket Constitution in his coat pocket. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think he views that at all. But let's remember

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Speaker 1: there are I do think there's it is it is

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Speaker 1: still quite difficult. I go back to something that the

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Speaker 1: founders understood about prosecuting a president and how you hold

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Speaker 1: a president accountable. That the only place to do it

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Speaker 1: was with a jury of his peers, and that is

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Speaker 1: the United States Senate. And if you're frustrated by this disconsion,

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Speaker 1: I would argue that your frustration should be focused on

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Speaker 1: one Mitch McConnell, because he made the decision that somehow

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01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: you couldn't convict somebody after they were out of office.

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Speaker 1: That's was his rationale for not voting to convict. He didn't.

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Speaker 1: He implied that the case had been proven that Trump

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Speaker 1: had violated the Constitution and certainly, certainly, and if he

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Speaker 1: were in office, would be he would have voted to convict.

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Speaker 1: But that's why we ended up with this ruling. And

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Speaker 1: that's why we ended up in this scenario is because

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Speaker 1: the US Senate, which was what the founder's thought, was

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Speaker 1: the best possible place you could have this, because no

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Speaker 1: matter where you're going to do it, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be very difficult, as we've now learned. Ultimately, I give

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Speaker 1: the founder's credit. I think they're right. I think it

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Speaker 1: was the best venue, and it was the one venue

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Speaker 1: that all this belonged. And this is where I might

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Speaker 1: argue that the Biden Justice Apartment, you know, probably should

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Speaker 1: have pursued cases against a whole bunch of other people,

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Speaker 1: but maybe had accepted the premise that when the impeachment

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Speaker 1: conviction didn't stick didn't happen, that there was no you know,

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Speaker 1: if you couldn't get it done in the Senate, how

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Speaker 1: you were expecting to get it done under the normal

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Speaker 1: rule of law. So it's easy to say now, given

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Speaker 1: the circumstances that we are in, but I think that

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Speaker 1: that should have been that should have been more of

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Speaker 1: a of a of a warning to the Biden Justice

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Speaker 1: Department about how hard pursuing these cases were going to be.

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Speaker 1: All Right with that, I hope you enjoy your Thanksgiving weekend.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy all the football. If you don't

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Speaker 1: care about football, I'm not going to apologize because you

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Speaker 1: can fast throw it through all my football talk. I

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Speaker 1: have been heartened by the folks that say I never

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Speaker 1: cared about college football, but you've made me care. That

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Speaker 1: makes me happy because I do find I just think

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Speaker 1: college football. Look, I like the NFL. I love the NFL,

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Speaker 1: but college football is different, right. It just it's weirdly

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Speaker 1: more personal. And because it's more personal, it's more emotional,

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Speaker 1: and you know, there's something about I know that they're

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Speaker 1: more professional now than they've ever been, but there's still kids,

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Speaker 1: and you know, no matter how much money at twenty

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Speaker 1: year old's making, there's still got the you know, they

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01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: still may over. You know, you don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. There's still an unpredictability sometimes just based on

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Speaker 1: how old these kids are. And yes, I'm because I'm

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Speaker 1: a middle aged fifty something, I'm going to call them kids.

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Speaker 1: That add the volatility to it, which is why the

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Speaker 1: best team doesn't always win on any given Saturday, or

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Speaker 1: any given Friday, or any given Thursday, as we're going

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Speaker 1: to have this week. So anyway, there's a reason why

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Speaker 1: I love college football so much, and it's because while

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01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: it is weirdly predictable from sixty thousand feet from week

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Speaker 1: to week, it is incredibly unpredictable and a blast to follow.

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Speaker 1: So that enjoy the most quintessential American holiday that there is,

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Speaker 1: and the one that I think we have made a

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Speaker 1: holiday that best represents what America wants to be. I'll

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Speaker 1: see in forty eight hours.