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Speaker 1: Welcome In Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: I am in Israel, buck is in Miami.

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Speaker 1: The geographic distance is wide, but my goodness, we have

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Speaker 1: a lot to dive into today as the fallout of

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Speaker 1: the Daniel Penny verdict continues, but also the United Healthcare

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Speaker 1: CEO murder now that they have this lunatic in prison,

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Speaker 1: the number of women out there that are in love

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Speaker 1: with him is crazy. And the overall attempt which has

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Speaker 1: become quite common now to try to analogize these two

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Speaker 1: situations and suggest that they are in any way reflective

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Speaker 1: of one another. To me, Bucket feels like it's only

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Speaker 1: growing here. And we had a discussion yesterday, and I

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Speaker 1: understand that there are many people that are fired up

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Speaker 1: about the healthcare system in America, and it is extremely frustrating,

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Speaker 1: and it is extremely inefficient, and there are lots of

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Speaker 1: things that everyone out there has had as an issue

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Speaker 1: at some point in time in their family. But you

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Speaker 1: can't kill CEO because you don't like the United States

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Speaker 1: healthcare system. And the fact that people out there are saying, oh, look,

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Speaker 1: in one case, vigilante justice is rewarded with Daniel Penny,

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Speaker 1: and in the other case, Oh my goodness, they're not

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Speaker 1: giving any justification to the killer here. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: that this argument could even occur, or that people buck

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Speaker 1: with functional brains could even attempt to analogize these to me,

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Speaker 1: as in most life, most of life, and most of

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Speaker 1: the criminal justice system. Frankly, it comes down to intent.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Penny's goal that day was to go safely take

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Speaker 1: a subway ride. He felt compelled to act to try

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Speaker 1: to protect his passengers around him. The killer of the

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Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO plotted in cold blood to kill a

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Speaker 1: man who'd never done anything to him directly and had

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Speaker 1: committed no crimes.

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Speaker 3: I got to say, Clay Penny's attitude, his perspective on

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Speaker 3: this is pretty remarkable. This is cut one. He's telling

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Speaker 3: everybody after this acquittal. You know, usually well, it's always

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Speaker 3: the case that the process is the punishment with a

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Speaker 3: criminal prosecution, right You're you don't ever want to be

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Speaker 3: criminally prosecuted. But Penny seems to have no bitterness about it.

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Speaker 3: He says, a trade off I would make again to

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Speaker 3: step in and defend people play cut one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not a confrontational person. I don't really

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Speaker 4: extend myself. I think this type of thing is very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: All this attention in line mind is very uncomfortable, and

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Speaker 4: I would prefer without it. I didn't want any type

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Speaker 4: of attention or praise or and I still don't the

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Speaker 4: guilt I would have felt if someone did get hurt,

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Speaker 4: if if he did do what he was threatening to do,

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Speaker 4: would never be able to live with myself. And I'll

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Speaker 4: take a million court appearances and people calling me names

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Speaker 4: and people hating me just to keep one of those

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Speaker 4: people from getting hurt or killed.

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Speaker 3: Clay, this is what a code is. When you talk

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Speaker 3: about a man who has a code of honor, a

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Speaker 3: code of ethics, it is more important to me to

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Speaker 3: achieve a moral end than it is to avoid suffering

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Speaker 3: or to avoid the negative consequences of the state. So

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Speaker 3: I think Penny has acquitted himself after his acquittal in

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Speaker 3: these interviews in a remarkable way. And beyond that, I

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Speaker 3: would just say this, Clay, if Penny had done this,

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Speaker 3: we haven't talked about this yet. I'm wondering if you agree.

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Speaker 3: If Penny had done this in the summer of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: he's sitting in prison right now because oh I think

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Speaker 3: you're right, you know, because people have woken up. They've

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Speaker 3: realized that the big problem is not systemic racism, in fact,

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Speaker 3: at the hands of police. The big problem for millions

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Speaker 3: and millions of Americans is not being safe on their streets,

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Speaker 3: on the subways, you know, walking in front of their homes,

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Speaker 2: We've seen all the videos. Enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: The fever's broken, the woke fever has broken. And here's

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Speaker 1: what I would say about the subway incident in particular,

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Speaker 1: the City of New York failed Daniel Penny and they

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Speaker 1: failed Jordan Neely.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of.

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Speaker 1: People out there who want to say, oh, Jordan Neely

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Speaker 1: is the victim. Daniel Penny's the bad guy. Some people

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Speaker 1: want to say, oh, Daniel Penny's a hero, Jordan Neely

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Speaker 1: is the is the awful villain I gotta take here.

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Speaker 1: I think the City of New York is the villain here,

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Speaker 1: because the City of New York had arrested Jordan Neely

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Speaker 1: for violent incidents that definitely sprang from his mental illness.

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Speaker 1: I think the number is forty two times. This is

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Speaker 1: a guy who socked a sixty seven year old woman

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Speaker 1: knows this guy who could have gone blind in one eye.

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Speaker 1: When you when you shatter somebody's orbital bone, it is

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Speaker 1: to do to an elderly woman. Yeah, sixty seven year

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Speaker 1: old woman is often a grandma. I mean, we're not

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Speaker 1: talking about somebody who was a threat to him, but

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Speaker 1: he was a threat to himself and he was a

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Speaker 1: threat to others, and they let him out on the

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Speaker 1: had to act that day in his mind, and a

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Speaker 1: New York City failed. This was and is to me

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Speaker 1: on New York City, and then New York City doubled

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Speaker 1: their failure by deciding they needed to put Daniel Penny

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Speaker 1: on trial and try to imprison him. So not only

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Speaker 1: did they create the toxic circumstances of this situation. If

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Speaker 1: Jordan Neely's family wants to sue somebody, they should sue

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Speaker 1: the state of New York and the City of New

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Speaker 1: York because they failed to take a violent criminal off

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Speaker 1: the streets and someone who was mentally ill. Can we

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Speaker 1: bring back you want to talk about things that we

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Speaker 1: need to bring back, can we bring back insane asylums?

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Speaker 1: I mean a huge portion a violent crime in this

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Speaker 1: country is directly connected to mental illness. And we basically

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Speaker 1: have decided nobody needs to be put in a mental

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Speaker 3: This may or may not shock you, Clay, but you

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Speaker 3: know who very much agrees with some of this analysis.

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Speaker 3: Mourning Joe Scarborough himself, this is cut. He is attacked.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, his fellow Democrat lunatics were passing insane laws

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Speaker 3: about homelessness, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Play four.

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Speaker 5: Middle health system in this country is just grossly insufficient.

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Speaker 5: Whether you're talking about New York, whether you're talking about Florida,

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Speaker 5: whether you're talking about California. You have people walking around

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Speaker 5: on the streets that have mental health issues.

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Speaker 2: And the fact.

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Speaker 5: That some progressives have said, basically, well, we're just you know,

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Speaker 5: let's pass laws that allow homelessness.

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Speaker 6: All.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you look in San Francisco, you look at Los Angeles.

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Speaker 7: As we've said all along and reve and I've said

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Speaker 7: all along, there's nothing compassionate about that. Now, there's nothing

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Speaker 7: progressive about that, leaving people with mental health problems on

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Speaker 3: No, by the way, this is a total reversal, a

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Speaker 3: rejection of Democrat dogma for certainly the last decade and

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Speaker 3: maybe the last you know, several decades, going back to

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Speaker 3: the Giuliani crime miracle of New York. Clay, just like

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Speaker 3: with so many things Democrats, whether it's oh, the real

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Speaker 3: problem with violence in this country is white cops against

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Speaker 3: young black men. That is a lie. It's actually incredibly rare.

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Speaker 3: And the real problem with the violence is criminals shooting

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Speaker 3: each other, and disproportionately their minority young men shooting minority

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Speaker 3: young men. Put that aside for a moment, Clay here,

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Speaker 3: they like to make everybody think that homelessness is caused

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Speaker 3: by healthcare denials followed by bankruptcy. Somebody couldn't hit the

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Speaker 3: mortgage payment, Somebody all of a sudden ran a little

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Speaker 3: too much on their credit card bills. Anybody with any

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Speaker 3: experience dealing with and I mean in a institutional way, right,

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Speaker 3: like trying to help you know, I had a grandfather

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Speaker 3: who is involved with the Coalition for Shelter for you know,

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Speaker 3: many many many years in New York. Anybody who spent

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Speaker 3: extreme mental health issues and extreme drug addiction issues, either

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Speaker 3: ninety percent of the homeless, you see. And they keep saying,

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Speaker 3: don't punish people for these things by taking away their freedom,

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Speaker 3: But they're taking away the freedom of other people to.

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Speaker 2: Walk the streets safely.

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Speaker 3: Then this is what By the way, the Jordan Neely,

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Speaker 3: he was given a safe place to sleep, food, a

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Speaker 3: think it was fourteen days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw eleven days. But you're right.

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Speaker 1: They tried to get him off the streets. And this

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Speaker 1: is where again I grew with JEFH. Scarborough. We got

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Speaker 1: to bring back in some way mental institutions. Remember when

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've read the studies because I was fascinated

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Speaker 1: call them insane asylums back in the day. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, Daniel Penny also ripped New York because he said,

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Speaker 1: I think some degree of what I said, which is

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Speaker 1: the City of New York's failure, is what created the

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Speaker 1: conflict between Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny. That never needed

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Speaker 4: How does it serve them to hurt you just political gain?

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Speaker 4: I mean, these are their policies that are and I

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Speaker 4: don't mean to get political. I don't really want to

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Speaker 4: But I mean these these are their policies that I've

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Speaker 1: I think he's right here, Buck. I think your point

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Speaker 1: is a good one. If Jordan Neely did this exact

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Speaker 1: same thing in the summer of twenty twenty, I think

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Speaker 1: he would have gotten convicted in the fall of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: So this is.

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Speaker 1: Strong evidence that there is a rejection and repudiation of

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Speaker 1: New York City policies. And I would just hammer this

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Speaker 1: home if Jordan Neely couldn't get convicted in New York City,

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Speaker 1: if in fact a jury there would unanimously agree that

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Speaker 1: his actions were justified. I'm not sure there is a

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Speaker 1: single jurisdiction in all of America right now where Daniel

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Speaker 1: Penny could have been convicted. You know, he's not getting

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Speaker 1: convicted in Nashville, Tennessee, where I live, or my own

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Speaker 1: to your point, he wouldn't even be prosecuted.

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Speaker 2: He wouldn't even get charged.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but the fact that they couldn't even get a

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Speaker 1: conviction there. He wouldn't be prosecuted in most jurisdictions based

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Speaker 1: on the evidence here. But the fact they couldn't even

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Speaker 1: get a conviction there. Maybe Washington, DC you could get it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think you could get it there because

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Speaker 1: I've ridden the Metro in the subway there, and there's

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Speaker 1: that same fear now in DC that didn't used to

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Speaker 3: I Clay, I mean, I I've written subway thousands of

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Speaker 3: times over my life. I used to ride the subway

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Speaker 3: even before the pandemic. I was on the subway four

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Speaker 2: And the stuff that you started.

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Speaker 3: To see in the New York City subway in a

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Speaker 3: post Bloomberg era because of Deblasio, because of the end

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Speaker 3: question part. They do that on purpose. They always, you know,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show, Hope everybody

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Speaker 1: There is there any woman who can defend women finding

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Speaker 1: How in the world did he get recognized? At an Altoona,

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Speaker 9: When the shooter I'm assumed was the shooter who they

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Speaker 3: Can I just say that this is not an unusual

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Speaker 2: You know it.

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Speaker 3: It's somebody sees somebody the gas station and the facial

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Speaker 3: When you say lived experience, you're a leftist. This is

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Speaker 1: This was almost like an insanity style defense. The reason

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Speaker 3: This guy's a terrorist, right, I mean we use the

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Speaker 2: Luigi as well. So Luigi making a comeback.

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Speaker 3: This guy committed a high profile murder in the furtherance

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Speaker 3: I mean this is terror one oh one is And

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Speaker 3: about healthcare. So, you know, as a society, I think

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Speaker 3: we have to be very cognizant of What this guy

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Speaker 3: to think that they're apparently much higher than they really are.

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Speaker 3: But put that aside. What this guy wanted is everyone

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Speaker 3: to sit around and say, what's really the legacy of Obamacare?

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Speaker 3: What's really better about Canada system than ours or not?

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Speaker 3: Like he actually wanted that to happen, and it is happening.

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Speaker 3: And when terrorists get their way, I think we should

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Speaker 3: all be very cautious about the trajectory of what we're discussing.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think he wants the trial, of course,

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Speaker 3: like he wants to make the case in the courtroom

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Speaker 3: of a dramatic fashion about his actions, which ties in

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Speaker 3: and by the way. Daniel Sickles, here's something people didn't expect.

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Speaker 3: Killed his wife's lover eighteen fifty nine, then became a

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Speaker 3: general in the Civil War. Argued that he was one

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Speaker 1: That's a crazy story. Eighteen fifty nine. He was one

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Speaker 1: of the first people to get away with the insanity defense.

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Speaker 1: He committed a murder, said that he was temporarily insane.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you can use it officially as

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Speaker 1: a defense in New York State. Maybe somebody who's listening

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Speaker 1: to us is an expert on New York penal law.

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Speaker 1: Some states have specifically disallowed it. But every crime requires

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Speaker 1: typically two parts, the act and the intent to commit

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Speaker 1: the act. When you are temporarily insane, you do not

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Speaker 1: have the mental faculty to intend to commit the act.

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Speaker 1: That's how you get away with doing something like that.

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Speaker 1: One other aspect to your buck that I think is significant.

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Speaker 1: The guy who was killed Brian Thompson. He is a

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Speaker 1: from a working class family, state school education. He pulled

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Speaker 1: himself up by his proverbial bootstraps. This kid twenty six

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Speaker 1: year old Luigi is the definition of white privilege. Went

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Speaker 1: to Gilman High School forty thousand dollars a year. It's

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Speaker 1: the elite prep school of Baltimore, double ivy league degrees.

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Speaker 1: Family is very wealthy. Isn't it interesting when the white

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Speaker 1: privilege mantra is just completely abandoned. This guy is the

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Speaker 1: definition of white privilege, and I would argue defending him

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Speaker 1: is a furtherance of his entire life where everything has

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Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you from years of being in

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Speaker 3: the CIA's kind of terrorism center, Clay and having access

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Speaker 3: to the literature and the training that they give analysts,

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Speaker 3: poverty does not cause radicalism. And if you look historically,

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Speaker 3: it is often the case that the most extreme radicals

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Speaker 3: around with the nom de guere of the engineer because

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Speaker 3: they studied engineering, because that's very popular in the Middle

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Speaker 3: East as a degree. So I'm just saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is also a reminder for.

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Speaker 2: People that it is the.

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Speaker 3: Progressive elites in a society who can often be the

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why is because they have

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Speaker 1: the intellectual ability and also they're well educated in some sense,

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Speaker 3: And they're disconnected from I mean, there's the there's a

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Speaker 3: how do I feed myself in my family?

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Speaker 2: How do I provide? How do I when?

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Speaker 3: When you can sit around and just think deep thoughts, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: But for people who go down a path of radicalization,

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Clay in Buck.

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Speaker 3: We got our friend Sean Parnell with us now combat veteran,

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Speaker 3: all around badass American patriot, host of the Battleground podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Clay and Buck Network, which is doing phenomenal numbers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all for listening in.

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Speaker 3: Sean does a great show, and Sean appreciate you being

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Speaker 3: with us here. Uh you me, Clay. We all have

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Speaker 3: one thing in common other than being dashingly handsome, and

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Speaker 3: that is we are all friends of Pete Hegseth and

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Speaker 3: are hoping that he is able to take the reins

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Speaker 3: of Secretary of Defense. You know you're a warfighter, a

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Speaker 3: true combat veteran. I wrote a great book about an

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Speaker 3: outlaw platoon, which I have read every word of and

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to give you the floor to speak

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Speaker 3: about not just you know, get yeah, you're pro Pete.

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Speaker 2: We're pro Pete.

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Speaker 3: But from the warfighter perspective, I'm seeing so many special

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Speaker 3: operations guys, so many guys with many combat tours in Iraq,

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Speaker 3: Afghanistan and elsewhere, who were saying, we've got to give

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Speaker 3: this shot to Pete, We've got to put him in

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Speaker 3: the role. Why is that, you know, Pete's a war fighter?

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Speaker 3: I mean, plain and simple. I mean I've known Pete

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Speaker 3: Haigseth buck Clay for a very long time. I mean

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Speaker 3: we were both in the infantry around the same time together,

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Speaker 3: and we worked at Concerned Veterans for America during the

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Speaker 3: exact same time period that these supposed fake allegations, all

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Speaker 3: this stuff happened in the New Yorker. And you know

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Speaker 3: what I know about Pete, and what has been true

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Speaker 3: about Pete for a very long time, guys, is that

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Speaker 3: he has a deep, abiding love of the war fighters.

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Speaker 3: He appreciates the people who are in the trenches, who

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Speaker 3: are on the front lines, front towards enemy. He appreciates

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Speaker 3: the people who do the heavy lifting in the military,

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Speaker 3: and that doesn't necessarily mean he's certainly not talking about

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Speaker 3: the people with stars on their shoulders, but the actual warfighters.

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Speaker 6: And you know what's I think so brilliant about the

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Speaker 6: hag Seth pick here is that he is an outsider.

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Speaker 6: He's somebody that thinks outside the box. Having worked with

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Speaker 6: him before, he is very, very reform minded, and he

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Speaker 6: understands the issues both of the Pentagon in the military.

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Speaker 6: And he knows what it feels like to have a

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Speaker 6: bullet cracked by his head, so that matters too. But

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Speaker 6: he understands these policy issues in a very deep and

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Speaker 6: substantive way, and I think that bodes well for his

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Speaker 6: prospects through the confirmation process and when eventually he gets

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Speaker 6: confirmed in a Secretary of Defense. So all of these

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Speaker 6: things are great things, But beyond all of that, I

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Speaker 6: just love the guy. He's a good man, he's a

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Speaker 6: good he's got a great family, and I think he'll

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Speaker 1: I want to dive in with you because I saw

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Speaker 1: you tweeting about this and we just talked about it

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago. West Point, the Public Affairs

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Speaker 1: Group or whoever they are tried to undercut Pete heg

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Speaker 1: Seth's nomination by reaching out to media and saying, not

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Speaker 1: only is Pete Hegseth lying about getting into West Point,

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Speaker 1: he never even applied, And then Hegseth posted the letter

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Speaker 1: of admission that he received on social media. I'm good

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Speaker 1: for him that he still has it, because you know

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Speaker 1: not that I got admitted that many places. But I

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Speaker 1: have no idea what happened to any of my admission's letters.

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Speaker 1: I got rejected a lot of places for law school too,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know what happened to those either.

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Speaker 1: But what's going on here, like Sean, he would theoretically

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Speaker 1: be in charge of the United States Military Academy, Democrat, Republican,

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Speaker 1: whatever else it is, is the fact that they tried

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Speaker 1: to sabotage him. Somebody needs to get fired here. We

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Speaker 1: need an investigation into what happened.

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Speaker 6: And this is precisely why you need somebody like Pete

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Speaker 6: because these are once venerated institutions, the Department of Defense,

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Speaker 6: the Pentagon, the US Military Academy at west Point, they

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Speaker 6: have been infested with these radical leftists and key positions

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Speaker 6: for quite some time now. I'm not talking about everybody

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Speaker 6: in the Pentagon or at the United States Military Academy.

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Speaker 6: I'm not painting with broad strokes here, but the folks,

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Speaker 6: there are lots of decision makers in these in West

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Speaker 6: Point that are radical leftists, that put the radical leftist

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Speaker 6: States Military Academy. And you described it perfectly, Clay. This

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Speaker 6: was somebody at West Point trying to undermine an incoming

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Speaker 6: president elect's pick for Secretary of Defense, who would theoretically

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Speaker 6: be in charge of West Point, to try to tank

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Speaker 6: his nomination. That was the motivation behind this. And ironically enough,

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Speaker 6: this is precisely why we need an outsider and a

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Speaker 6: guy like Pete to root out this radical leftist infestation

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Speaker 6: at the Pentagon and other at the Pentagon. Uh and

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Speaker 6: and and focus the mission of the United States mission

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Speaker 6: of the United States Military on lethality first, last and

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Speaker 6: always get us back to our war fighting mission. Get

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Speaker 6: rid of all the dei stuff, get all the get

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Speaker 6: rid of all the pronoun stuff, get out, get rid

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Speaker 6: of all the stuff that is a distraction to the

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Speaker 6: war fighter, and focus on the mission. And in the

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Speaker 6: case of West Point, the mission is raising up officers

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Speaker 6: who embody duty, honor, country, uh service, selfless service, sacrifice,

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Speaker 6: not focused on tanking political nominations.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Sean Parnell, Battleground is his podcast on the

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Speaker 2: Sean.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk politics for a second here. I mean we

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Speaker 3: kind of were in a sense, right they're trying to

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Speaker 3: block people political reasons, but you know, more in the

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Speaker 3: on the electoral politics side of things. We were just

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Speaker 3: discussing Pennsylvania. Amazing work, Scott Presler, bit did your home

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Speaker 3: state delivered? We got a great new senator coming in

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Speaker 3: with Dave McCormick. Fetterman.

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Speaker 9: You're familiar.

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Speaker 3: You ran for Congress, right, you know that the deal

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Speaker 3: the political landscape in Pennsylvania very well. Fetterman is saying

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Speaker 3: a lot of sensible stuff, and people get sometimes a

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Speaker 3: little mad at those like me who will just say,

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Speaker 3: look what he said is good. I don't know, is

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Speaker 3: this is he not? Do you think he's actually changing

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Speaker 3: the way he views things or is this just a gamut?

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Speaker 3: Is this just something that he's doing because he sees

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Speaker 3: where the political winds are blowing, Like, how would you

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Speaker 3: assess this, because he's definitely not saying the woke stuff

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Speaker 3: these days.

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Speaker 6: He definitely, I'll just say this, definitely sees the way

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Speaker 6: that the political wins are are blowing and knows that

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Speaker 6: he has election and election coming up in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: And just do the simple math. From twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 6: hundred and fifty thousand more registered Democrats than Republicans. In

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, that number is three hundred thousand in change,

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Speaker 6: so still a lot more Democrats than Republicans. But look,

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Speaker 6: Republicans just won the state up and down the ballot,

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Speaker 6: a clean sweep of Republicans in Pennsylvania in twenty four

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Speaker 6: So in another four years, I mean, this state could

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Speaker 6: be even Republican Democrats and that makes the state very,

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Speaker 6: very tough for him. So John Fetterman is going to

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Speaker 6: have to do some things to reach across the aisle,

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Speaker 6: give conservatives some you know, quote unquote wins while simultaneously

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Speaker 6: voting the way that the Democrat Party wants him to vote.

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Speaker 6: And to me, that's the key differentiator. Don't listen to

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Speaker 6: the things that John Fetterman says, like he says some

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Speaker 6: cool catch stuff that conservatives like to latch onto, but

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Speaker 6: watch how he votes. A good example of this is Israel.

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Speaker 6: He waives the Israeli flag all the time, but he

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Speaker 6: votes against aid for Israel in the Senate over and

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Speaker 6: over and over again. So you can't in many cases

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Speaker 6: listen to how the Democrats talk. You have to watch

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Speaker 6: how he votes. So Buck and Clay, if he votes

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Speaker 6: starts voting with the Republicans, then I'll take him a

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Speaker 6: heck of a lot more serious than the way he

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Speaker 6: is now. But the last thing I'll say about John

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Speaker 6: Fetterman is this, and I'll give him a compliment. John

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Speaker 6: Fetterman is one of the few elected officials, especially now

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Speaker 6: on the Democrats side of the aisle, who seemed totally

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Speaker 6: out of touch with reality on most things. But John

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Speaker 6: Fetterman really truly does understand Pennsylvania, and so I will

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Speaker 6: give him credit for that, and for that for that

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Speaker 6: reason alone, it makes him a very formidable politician. And

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Speaker 6: so the fact that he's this forward thinking, sees the numbers,

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Speaker 6: sees that the state is trending right. The fact that

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Speaker 6: he's already thinking about this in twenty four for a

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Speaker 6: cycle in twenty eight just gives you a sense that

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Speaker 6: he does have some political strategy up up here. He

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Speaker 6: does understand the state, he understands the demographics, and so

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Speaker 6: makes him formidable, and Republicans should not take him for granted.

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Speaker 1: Sean, I know we're four years out from a major election,

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Speaker 1: but how durable do you think the new calculus, the

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Speaker 1: new math is for Pennsylvania. You mentioned that you think

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Speaker 1: the state is tilting red. Trump one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: thousand vote win in the state of Pennsylvania. It was close,

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Speaker 1: but it was a major statement win. How much of

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Speaker 1: that is Trump and how much of that is the

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Speaker 1: overall trajectory of Pennsylvania moving in a Republican direction.

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Speaker 6: Well, so a lot of this is Trump, and I

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Speaker 6: think part of our job moving forward in the Commonwealth

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Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania is is try to present deserve this crazy

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Speaker 6: coalition cross section of people that only show up for Trump.

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Speaker 2: Our job moving forward.

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Speaker 6: Is to figure out how to get those people to

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Speaker 6: the ballot box each and every cycle, not just in midterms,

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Speaker 6: but in off cycles as well. Consider this all the

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Speaker 6: work that we did with early votes in mail in

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Speaker 6: ballots this cycle. Dave McCormick, he won twenty seven counties

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Speaker 6: in vote cast by mail. Of the sixty seven counties

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Speaker 6: in Pennsylvania, McCormick won twenty seven. Doctor Oz in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty two won two. But in those twenty seven counties

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Speaker 6: that Dave McCormick won, his margin of victory was twenty

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Speaker 6: one thousand mail in votes. That was greater than a

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Speaker 6: statewide margin of victory. So what we did in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 6: in addition to President Trump just being very strong at

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Speaker 6: the top of the ticket, what we did for Dave

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Speaker 6: McCormick and Republicans down ballot was literally the difference. And

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Speaker 6: so you don't see the same dynamic playing out in Wisconsin, Nevada,

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Speaker 6: Arizona and other places, but what we did in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: And so we're going to.

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Speaker 6: Have to focus on all of the you know, hey,

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Speaker 6: vote by mail early vote operation, continue banging the drum

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Speaker 6: on voter registration, getting low prop voters to the polls,

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Speaker 6: and continuing to cobble together this very eclectic coalition that

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Speaker 6: Trump brings to the table, because that is the base

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Speaker 6: of our party now and we've got to serve them.

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Speaker 3: Well, what are you hitting on? Battleground Podcast this week, Sean.

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Speaker 6: We're going to talk about Pete's confirmation process, actually all

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Speaker 6: of President Trump's cabinet nominees, and the fact that it's

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Speaker 6: very rare for cabinet nominees to be voted down by

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Speaker 6: Democrats or Republicans, but we've let the media gaslight us

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Speaker 6: into believing that that's possible this cycle. So we're going

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Speaker 6: to go to the politics on all of that. So

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Speaker 6: we're Monday through Friday on the Clay and Buck podcast Network.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, guys, very grateful to be there,

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Speaker 6: So thank you both very much for the platform.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for making us look good by building a

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Speaker 2: We appreciate that. Yeah, well, it's an honor to be

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Speaker 2: with you, guys. Thank you, Sean.

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Speaker 8: Research News and Politics, but also a little comic relief,

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Speaker 8: Clay Travis at buck Sexton. Find them on the free

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Speaker 8: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. We are

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Speaker 8: here with the Speaker of the Knesset in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk with him. He's got all of

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Speaker 1: his guitars arrayed here. We were just talking about his

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Speaker 1: needs to come to Nashville and visit at some point. Amir, Ohanna,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you, mister speaker. And we have had

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Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the United States, on the

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Speaker 1: program several times.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot that I.

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Speaker 1: Want to dive into with you on but let's start

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Speaker 1: with the major issues that are going on in Israel

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Speaker 1: right now and how the United States can help Israel

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Speaker 1: in many of the issues that it's dealing with, and

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Speaker 1: in particular, how the new president can help Israel with

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Speaker 1: many of the issues that it's dealing with. President Trump

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Speaker 1: made a strong statement about the importance of the hostages

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Speaker 1: being able to be returned. It's now been over four

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty days since the October seventh terror attack.

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Speaker 1: What did you see as the impact of President Trump's statement?

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Speaker 1: And how impactful is the President of the United States,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the president elect in your mind to being

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Speaker 1: able to bring those hostages back.

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Speaker 2: How impactful can he be?

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Clay, It's very good to be with you.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for having me on your show and on

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Speaker 10: such a special day because we just hosted the President

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Speaker 10: of Paraguay, Santiago Pena, that came to announce to the

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Speaker 10: people of Israel that he is reopening the Paraguayan embassy

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Speaker 10: in Jerusalem, following the footsteps of President Trump. So, yes,

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Speaker 10: based on the first tenure of President Trump, I believe

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Speaker 10: we are about to experience the golden age of the

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Speaker 10: relations between the United States of America and Israel. We

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Speaker 10: see the team, may I say, the dream team that

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Speaker 10: President Trump is assembling regarding Israel. I was just talking

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Speaker 10: about guitars with my friend Mike.

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Speaker 2: Hackabi, the next ambassador.

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Speaker 10: Next ambassador in Israel, which is also a guitarist, who

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Speaker 10: is also a guitarist, and we're gonna jam some sessions together.

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Speaker 10: And yes, I think that it is a very very

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Speaker 10: important thing that the relations between the two leaders, between

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Speaker 10: Prime Minister Taniao and President of the United States, President Trump,

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Speaker 10: will be as good as possible. And this is the case.

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Speaker 10: These are two leaders that knows each other for decades,

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Speaker 10: and so I believe that it's going to be very meaningful.

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Speaker 10: The powerful statement that you have just mentioned is exactly

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Speaker 10: what was needed. It was very powerful and it was

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Speaker 10: very impactful in the entire Middle East because in order

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Speaker 10: to bring Hamas to release the hostages, we need both

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Speaker 10: military pressure and diplomatic pressure. And some of the statements

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Speaker 10: that we heard throughout the last year from leaders, for instance,

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Speaker 10: Israel should cease fire immediately, we should stop shipping weapons

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Speaker 10: to Israel, we should embargo Israel, we should recognize a

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Speaker 10: Palestinian state, which is very clearly a reward for the

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Speaker 10: atrocities of October seventh, were very very counterproductive in that field.

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Speaker 10: They had no Hamas listening to that is saying, okay,

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Speaker 10: all we need is just to hang on long enough

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Speaker 10: until the world will stop is from coming after us.

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Speaker 10: So the statement of President elector Trump was very meaningful,

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Speaker 10: very powerful, very important and brilliant.

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Speaker 1: How closely did you watch the American election election night?

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Speaker 1: In particular, we have been told that if Israel could vote,

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Speaker 1: if everybody in Israel could vote, Trump would have won

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Speaker 1: a massive landslide victory inside of this country. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that that is true? And do you think most

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Speaker 1: Israelis were rooting for Trump to win? What was the

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Speaker 1: reaction you saw on election night to his victory?

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Speaker 2: Here In just.

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Speaker 10: Four years of his first tenure, President Trump kicked out

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Speaker 10: the Pilo, the Palestini Liberation Organization out of DC. He

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Speaker 10: backed off the harmful Iran dial He recognized Israeli sovereignty

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Speaker 10: over the Golan Heights, he recognized Israeli sovereignty over in Jerusalem,

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Speaker 10: and did what he said is going to do, moved

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Speaker 10: the American Embassy to Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1: What's the impact before we go into the election for

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Speaker 1: people out there who may not understand, what is the

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Speaker 1: impact of the embassy, the American Embassy being in Jerusalem,

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Speaker 1: for the Israeli people and for the American people.

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Speaker 10: I think most of our listeners are Evangelical Christians, which

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Speaker 10: we cherish the friendship and the brotherhood with them very

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Speaker 10: very much. They know what Jerusalem means to the Jewish people.

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Speaker 10: For two thousand years, one hundred generations of Jews from

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Speaker 10: all over the globe have dreamed and yearned and prayed

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Speaker 10: to the same thing, next year in Jerusalem, next year

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Speaker 10: in Jerusalem. Two thousand years. Imagine that we have never

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Speaker 10: forgotten the Promised Land and our spiritual capital of Jerusalem.

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Speaker 10: And President Trump came and say this year in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 10: And this was very very powerful, very meaningful for us

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Speaker 10: as Jews and for us as Israelis, and we hope

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Speaker 10: that many more will follow the footsteps of President Trump

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Speaker 10: as president. Penny, I just did today.

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Speaker 1: The reaction to Trump's victory. It seems that Israelis were

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Speaker 1: very happy. Would you agree that if Israelis could have voted,

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Speaker 1: they would have wanted Trump to win. And if so,

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Speaker 1: you just laid out all those things that he did

872
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Speaker 1: that are positive. What could he do going forward to

873
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Speaker 1: also further the relationship and make it even better?

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Speaker 10: The polls show exactly what you have just said. Of course,

875
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 10: as a symbol of a state, I cannot take sides.

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Speaker 10: We must remain and maintain our relations with America on

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Speaker 10: the bipartisan level. We need to be able to work

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Speaker 10: with whoever it is that the American people elects as president,

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Speaker 10: and so we have throughout the years. But as I said,

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Speaker 10: as I mentioned, President Trump was a great friend and

881
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Speaker 10: still is a great friend for the of Israel. So

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Speaker 10: we are very happy to be able to work with him.

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Speaker 10: Of course, at this time we are still in war.

884
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Speaker 10: We can use everymo. We don't ask anyone to fight

885
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Speaker 10: our belts. We don't need boots on the ground. We

886
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 10: will do our belts, and we pay very heavy prices

887
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 10: for that. We lose our troops and soldiers and servicemen

888
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 10: almost every day. But we do need am O and

889
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Speaker 10: we hope that we can get as much as possible.

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Speaker 10: And we do need America's back, which President Trump has

891
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Speaker 10: proven that we will have his back and America's back.

892
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Speaker 10: America is not only an important state, it is the

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Speaker 10: leader of the free world, if you will light onto

894
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Speaker 10: the nations. This is how we consider America and America's leadership.

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Speaker 10: And I think the mere message that America stands by

896
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Speaker 10: Israel does wonders to deter our enemies, and there are

897
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Speaker 10: many many around us.

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Speaker 1: What's the impact of ASAD being out in Syria, both

899
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Speaker 1: on Iran, on Israel and the larger Middle East? What's

900
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Speaker 1: the best result there so far as you can see

901
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Speaker 1: right now in the very early days, as Syria has

902
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Speaker 1: new leaders, so.

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Speaker 10: We are cautiously observing what's happening in Syria and even

904
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Speaker 10: taking action to defend Israeli civilians. Of course, ASAD was

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Speaker 10: a part of the axis of evil that Iran was

906
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Speaker 10: trying to build in order to surround us and suffocate

907
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 10: the State of Israel. And now it's gone. Syria is

908
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 10: no longer Syria, the Asad regime has fallen. So these

909
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 10: are good news because our greatest enemy is Iran, and

910
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 10: whatever weakens not Iran, let me be mostly the Ietola

911
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 10: regime of Iran, because amongst the people of Run we

912
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 10: have great relations. We used to have great relations before

913
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Speaker 10: seventy nine, but then came the Ietology and change everything.

914
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Speaker 10: And they have a plan to destroy the state of

915
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Speaker 10: Israel by the year twenty forty. This is their plan

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Speaker 10: and they have done actions to promote that plan. But

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Speaker 10: gladly they have found our resistance and we have crippled Gizabala,

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Speaker 10: one of the maybe the largest their organizations in the world,

919
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Speaker 10: in the world, definitely in the Middle East, severely, leadership, ammunition, personnel, everything,

920
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Speaker 10: and it is much weaker than it used to be.

921
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Speaker 10: We've crippled from us almost completely. So Iran's plan is

922
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Speaker 10: being foiled by Israeli forces and brave troops and this

923
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Speaker 10: is continue to be This will continue to be the

924
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Speaker 10: case until we return the one hundred hostages that are

925
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Speaker 10: still being held in captivity in Gaza Bajamas. We are

926
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Speaker 10: going to continue until we return the tens of thousands

927
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Speaker 10: of these placed civilians to their homes up north safely,

928
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Speaker 10: and it will continue until we can assure we can

929
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Speaker 10: provide a better future for the following generations at both

930
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Speaker 10: sides of the fence.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we got a lot of parents and

932
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Speaker 1: grandparents and also college kids that listen to this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you saw the protests on American college campuses.

934
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Speaker 1: I know that got a great deal of attention here

935
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Speaker 1: from Columbia and New York City all the way to

936
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Speaker 1: UCLA across the country in Los Angeles. What would you

937
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Speaker 1: tell American college kids who were showing up and supporting

938
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Speaker 1: the Palestinians Hamas in the wake of October seventh that

939
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: they don't know or don't hear that maybe their parents

940
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Speaker 1: and grandparents should be telling them, and if they're the

941
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Speaker 1: college kids listening right now, that they should know.

942
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Speaker 10: First of all, I want to command Congresswoman at least

943
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Speaker 10: a panic yes soon to be an ambassador American ambassador

944
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Speaker 10: at the UN. I hosted her here in the Knesset

945
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Speaker 10: a few months ago, commanding her for the way she

946
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Speaker 10: handled the leadership of the Ivy League of those colleges

947
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Speaker 10: that did not refused to deal with anti Semitism in

948
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Speaker 10: their colleges in their campuses. I'll be honest. We hoped

949
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Speaker 10: that anti Semitism is a measure of the past. Yes,

950
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Speaker 10: we thought that once we have a state of our own,

951
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 10: it will gradually diminish and disappear. But October seventh, of course,

952
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 10: has proven us wrong. Not only we see a rise

953
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 10: of anti Semitism, we see an explosion of antisemitism since

954
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 10: October seventh, which is very sad, very unfortunate, but something

955
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 10: that we will need to deal with. We consider is

956
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 10: Well not only as a state for the Israelies, but

957
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 10: the state for the Jewish people, and so thus we

958
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 10: consider the Knesset as a parliament not only for the

959
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 10: Israeliti people, but for the Jewish people. We are in

960
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 10: touch with our Jewish communities throughout the world, with the

961
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Speaker 10: leaders of those countries throughout the world where you have

962
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 10: Jewish communities, and demanding that they will handle anti Semitism.

963
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Speaker 10: But let me tell you, Clay, do you know when

964
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 10: did we experience the peak of Israel's popularity that was

965
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 10: following the nineteen sixty seven war. We were triumphant in

966
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 10: nineteen sixty seven, and the world loves winners, so we

967
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 10: shall continue to fight until we.

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Speaker 2: Win evangelical support. You mentioned it.

969
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Speaker 1: There are lots of Christians that want to see Israel succeed, thrive,

970
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: and be safe. How important is the support of American

971
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Jews and also American Christians in Israel's ability to defend

972
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: itself and frankly even continue to exist.

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00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 10: Extremely important, which is why we maintain and strengthening the

974
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Speaker 10: relations between the State of Israel and America American leaders

975
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Speaker 10: religious leaders. Now, look, Clai, I'm not the most religious

976
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 10: member of Knesset here, I have to be honest, but

977
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 10: I have a huge amount of respect to my tradition

978
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 10: and history and to the story of my people that

979
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 10: is being told in the book of books in the

980
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 10: Holy Bible. When I read the story of my people

981
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 10: and I find that more than eighty percent of the

982
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 10: locations that are stated as the land of Israel are

983
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 10: located in Judaea and Samaria, or what some would refer

984
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 10: to as the West Bank, it is then that I

985
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 10: understand that the roots of my people, that the places

986
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 10: where our ancestors walked on the face of this earth

987
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 10: and the Hebrew language was first heard, are in Judaan Samaria.

988
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 10: So this notion, this foil idea of a two state

989
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 10: solution as something that will bring peace has no grounds.

990
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 10: I don't support it. I think I represent the majority

991
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 10: of Israelis that do not support it, and I think

992
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 10: that the what President Trump brought with him in his

993
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 10: first tenure was amazing. We have managed to expand the

994
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 10: circle of peace, not with one, not with two, but

995
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 10: with four Arab countries, without giving up LANs, without evacuating Judaan, Samaria,

996
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 10: peace for peace.

997
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: Are you optimistic that there can be further peace accords

998
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: in the next four years of the Trump administration, maybe

999
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: including Saudi Arabia Ultimately.

1000
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 10: I was fortunate enough to walk through the trails of Faaza,

1001
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 10: the Kibotsima and the Gaza envelope with Jared Kushner and

1002
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 10: Ivanka Yes last a few months ago, and I was

1003
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 10: very impressed, very talented, very smart, and I know that

1004
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 10: he was orchestrating the Abraham Cords. And I hope that

1005
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 10: we can, indeed, and I believe that we can indeed

1006
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 10: expand the circle of peace. You mentioned Saudi Arabia the

1007
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 10: biggest Arab or at least one of the most important

1008
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 10: Arab countries throughout the world, and you're absolutely right. Iran

1009
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 10: is very concerned about the expansion of the circle of

1010
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 10: peace between Israel and Arab countries and America, and so

1011
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 10: it tried to stop it. I believe by now, Clay,

1012
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 10: I think it would be safe to say that as

1013
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 10: devastated we are and traumatized by the events of October seventh,

1014
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 10: that will never heal. This scar will go with us

1015
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 10: for generations. Our enemies realizes they did the big mistake,

1016
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 10: huge mistake.

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Speaker 2: I know what.

1018
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: A lot of people are not traveling now, but in

1019
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: the wake of October seventh, there are a lot of

1020
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: people struggling all over the country in many different facets.

1021
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: One of them is usually Israel has a huge tourism industry.

1022
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: Tons of people come in. We have had an opportunity

1023
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: to see how beautiful this country is. When people start

1024
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: the flights are all returning. What would you say they

1025
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: should see if they come to Israel? And do you

1026
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: think they would find it to be a welcoming place.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, it's a warm, welcoming place, definitely. To Americans. Is

1028
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 10: a very small country and it's just a short visit.

1029
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 10: You get to see old and you you get to

1030
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 10: walk in the footsteps of Jesus Christ. If you go

1031
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 10: through the tunnels undereath the Western Wall in Jerusalem, and

1032
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 10: of course Tel Aviv with it's great restaurants in Jerusalem.

1033
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 10: So this is what you do when you come to Israel.

1034
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, sir. I know how busy you are.

1035
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Speaker 2: Good luck.

1036
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Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of battles still to fight,

1037
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: but I know Donald Trump is going to have a

1038
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: great partnership and a lot of our listeners are looking

1039
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: forward to peace prosperity around the world for Amael and

1040
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: the United State.

1041
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Speaker 2: Thankk you, sir, Thank you.

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1043
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