1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, things got a bit 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: chippy when the pads were put on for the second time. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: MJ believes that's good to see here in training camp. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: He'll explain why. Cliff Kingsbury explains the difference between Andy 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Isabella and Rondel Moore, some interesting comments made by the 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: head coach about the wide receiver position and the depth there. First, 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: though it is officially official, football is back and it's 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: not going anywhere until next February. It's Cardinals Cover two, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: Episode four fifty, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Grigolew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot Com, 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to catch at 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: a touch down DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. 15 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: So we didn't talk about this before the show, but 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: I can guarantee Bird Gang, I know exactly what MJ 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: was doing last night Thursday. As we talk here Friday, You, 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: sir or at home on the couch in front of 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: your very large screen TV and wats the Hall of 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Fame game between the Cowboys and Steelers because football now 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: is officially back, and I always looked for the Hall 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: of Fame, you know, inductions and you know different you 23 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: know stories that are being told and it's nice to 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: see this class. You know. Obviously you get a first 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: time first ballot Hall of Famer like Peyton Manning and 26 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: you know guys like John Lynch had to wait for 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: a while. So yeah, it's always you know, not so 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: much the game, it's just the festivities. And you know, 29 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: if you want to fast forward five or six years 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: from now, when Larry Fitzgerald decides to hang it up, 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals likely play in the Hall of Fame game because 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, you look at you know, a guy like 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Drew Pryerson going and then Alan Fanaka and Bill Kawer 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: and then last year Troy Polamalo. So they try to 35 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: sync up teams to where they go in the Hall 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: of Fame. So I'd anticipate, you know, fast forwarding for 37 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: five or six years from now, depending on what Larry 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: decides to do, they'll play in that game. And you know, 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals played there with Kevin Cobb. That was 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: five preseason games. Now they reduce it. But the Cowboys 41 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: are going to be here coming up this Friday, no 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, no Ben Roethlisberger. You know, everyone's wondering to 43 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: see what how Nigi Harris is going to play. And 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: Tom untold the players all week, you know, don't try 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: to be here. I'll take what the defense gives you. 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Fall forward, don't fall backwards on running plays. And you know, 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: he had a nice little run there, and I think 48 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: he's going to be a big part of their offense. 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: So you know, and you know it's going to be 50 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: curious to see how the Cardinals approached the preseason. Of 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: course we'll try to find out more. I would think 52 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: just I've been hold anything, just guessing, you know me 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: that first preseason gave them home a couple of possessions. 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: You score, get them out of there. You know, against 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I think you got to play at least 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: a half, and then that third one. You probably want 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: to look at your young players. So I don't know 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: if they'll ever do that, going to the locker room 59 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: and come out in the third quarter of getting the 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: ball because that's something that they're gonna have to figure 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: out going into the season. So it's that time of 62 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: the year, and you know, you're throwing a couple of 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: college games at the end of August here, and we 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: got football every Saturday and Sunday pretty much until mid February, 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: mid February more NFL towards the end, but then the 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: bull season, et cetera. So a great time to be 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: a football fan. Yeah, the first preseason game in the 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: books the Cardinals will have there is one week from 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Friday when the Cowboys come to town. By the way, 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers did win the Hall of Fame game. I 71 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: didn't watch a lot of it, but and I think 72 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: that game now has just become part of an entire 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: weekend of celebrations. It's I wouldn't say it's an afterthought. 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: It does mean something to those young players, but the 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: star players, if you will, those that do travel to Canton, 76 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: it's not for them. And if you do make a 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: weekend out of it, the game becomes parts of the weekend. 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: You're not just going for the game and that's it. 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: It's the entire four or five days that week. Yeah, 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even know who won the game, and you know, 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: you know, I hope the Cardinals. You know, you're trying 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: to evaluate players, but you know, a lot of situational football. 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: You'd like to get your kicker out there. Maybe you 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: get a game winning kicks, so next time it happens 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: in a real game. But obviously got to avoid injury. 86 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: So I think that, you know, And then the Chiefs, 87 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a good matchup. Again, how much 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna show them homes in their offense. And I 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: just think these are really good matchups going into the season. 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: So you know, hopefully next year the Cardinals will have 91 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: a joint practice, maybe syncing up with one of the 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: teams they play in the on the road in the preseason. 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Next year they'll be on the road in the preseason 94 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: least two games wanted home, considering year two at home 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: in one on the road in New Orleans. Now the 96 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals could have some situational football playouts. Here at State 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium is where we come to you here for 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals training camp powered by Cox as the Red and 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: White practice is this Saturday, August seventh, one thirty to 100 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: three o'clock and it's the end to the longest week 101 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: of training camp, six consecutive days of practice. You'll hear 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: from uner Michael Bidwell and head coach Cliff Kingsbury. They'll 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: address the crowd beforehand. You'll see the Pro Bowl jersey 104 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: presentation that's become a part of the Red and White practice. 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Just exactly how much more we'll see on Saturday as 106 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: opposed to these previous days of training camp. I know, 107 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: goal line situation, two minute, four minute offense, that might 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: all be on the table. It's just it's not a scrimmage. 109 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: It's still a practice, and you still want to be careful. 110 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: You want to respect your teammates. You don't want to 111 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: get hurt out there. Yet I would hope that there 112 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: is some physicality. Do believe, without knowing anything, that the 113 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: pads will be on for the third time this week, 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: And as Buddha Baker alluded to when he addressed the 115 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: media on Friday, don't expect him to get a lot 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: of reps. So there could be several veterans with days 117 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: off or limited team activity, maybe just some individual work. 118 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: But the red and White practice is something that I 119 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: know fans always look forward to. Yeah, and for them 120 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: it's really a little bit of address rehearsal. I mean 121 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: they're going to be in full pads. They won't be 122 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: in their full uniforms from you know, a game day standpoint, 123 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: but next time they step on the field, you know 124 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna play. So I would think they're gonna put 125 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: the offense and defense out there and you know, get 126 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the crowd into it, whether it's an interception. Again, they 127 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: get paid. On the other side, it'd be nice to 128 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: see the Cardinals offense put on the field and score points. 129 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: But then you gotta get these young guys in there, 130 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: and that's Zaban Collins. You gotta get the rookie class. 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not opposed to guys that are first second 132 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: year players. Andy Isabella needs reps. E Sean Johnson needs 133 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: rep you know, Benjamin Jonathan war guys that you know, 134 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: we are not household names, so to speak, but if 135 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: some injuries occur at those positions, they're the next man up, 136 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta get you know how I 137 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: feel about reps, reps, reps reps in Buddha Baker made 138 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: it very clear today there's nothing nothing to average about 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: this team. In practice. 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Thursday 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: full padded practice and there was some reps between outside 150 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: linebackers and tight ends, inside linebackers and running backs as 151 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: far as not blitz pick up but past protection. And 152 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I'll say this MJ. Things got a little chippy on Thursday. 153 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Tempers flared a little bit. Marcus Golden had to be 154 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: calmed down as he had words for the tight ends 155 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: when they were doing those drills. I think it was 156 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Darrell Daniels who Golden got tangled up with. Max Williams 157 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: ended up playing peacemaker. I think though probably to be expected. 158 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: On day eight of camp. Talking about Thursday, I know 159 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: and speaking with you following that practice, you said it 160 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: was a good sign that something like that happened. Now again, 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: it was much ado about nothing at the end of 162 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: the day help me back exactly. Maybe maybe a little 163 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: bit of a grab or a tug, but there were 164 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: no punches thrown. There wasn't not a full scale brawl 165 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: like there was with the Giants in New York. But 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: when you are together for two weeks and you're going 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: head to head and you're competing for a roster spot, 168 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: things are going to happen. Now, at the end of 169 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: the day, your teammates and everything is okay, But in 170 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: that particular moment, especially when you're doing dealing with Marcus Golden, 171 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: who was always amped up, Yeah, you're you're gonna get 172 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: a little hot sometimes. Yeah. And you know Adrian Wilson, 173 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: anytime they were able to put the pads on in 174 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: training camp, he would lay out a running back coming 175 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: through the hall and kind of set the tone. You 176 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: can't do that now. I thought their first padded practice 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: was average because it would kind of slow play. You 178 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: go from the ramp up, you're in shells or spiders 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: and helmets and shorts, and then all of a sudden, 180 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: you put the pads on and then some of these 181 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: young players, undrafted free ads, don't know how to practice 182 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: or trying to make a name for themselves, and it's like, 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: slow down, you're gonna get some reps. So that that's 184 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: that's when padded practice. And I thought yesterday was much better. 185 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: U I saw a little bit more physicality, a little 186 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: bit more animation where they were kind of feeling themselves 187 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: around when they are on pads on Tuesday. And what 188 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: it shows you when there are words exchange or guys 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: get upset, One they care and two they're looking to 190 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: win their individual one on one match just because at 191 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's what football is. Can 192 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: you beat the guy across from you? And that sometimes 193 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: wasn't always the case last season. There needed to be 194 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: some help. But if you can hold your end, and 195 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: I do think that the tight ends for the most part, 196 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: did hold their own. Now, Chandler Jones was not on 197 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: the field, he was given a veteran days off, a 198 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: veteran day off. The running backs specifically, you know, Benjamin 199 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: looked very, very solid as far as making sure those 200 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: inside linebackers did not get by them towards the quarterback. 201 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: So again it's gonna happen. I do like to see 202 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: it's and I know you were glad that it happened 203 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: at least it's and I'm actually maybe even a little 204 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: surprised that it didn't happen sooner. And here in training camp. Yeah, 205 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear coming up next week. We're tired of 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: hitting the same guy in front of us. And they've 207 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: done a nice job kind of rotating. You know, Benjamin 208 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: has gotten first team reps. Sometimes you'll see a guy 209 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: like Marco Wilson and Dark Quest and are getting first 210 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: team reps, especially if Malcolm Butler's it wasn't practicing. So 211 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: I like the fact that, you know, and some guys 212 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: are getting more reps because of flexibility, Like you know 213 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: Josh Jones right now, he's getting a lot ton of 214 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: reps at right guard. And you look at Marco Wilson, 215 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: he could play inside and outside. Dark House Knar can 216 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: play inside and outside. Chase Whittaker can play inside and outside. 217 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: So I like the fact that you know, they got 218 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: some flexibility. And that's going to be when it comes 219 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to a numbers game. How much can you do on 220 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: game day and will you be active? Now as far 221 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: as the reps at wide receiver Andy Isabelle, I think 222 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: had his best day on Thursday. Now Bird ganger Gainers 223 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: talk a lot about Thursday's practice. Friday's practice, the day 224 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: before the Red and White practice, it was more of 225 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: a walk through. It was half speed him, Butther dealing 226 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: with a maintenance issue, was not on the field. According 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: to head coach Cliff Kings, Barry rondel Moore dealing with 228 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: a minor issue as well. He exited the practice field 229 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: midway through Thursday's practice. So there is I wouldn't say 230 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: an issue at the wide receiver position, but there is 231 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: certainly a position that I would say is in flux. 232 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: Talking about the wide receiver position, DeAndre Hopkins, given a 233 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: veteran's day off on Thursday, was out there on Friday. 234 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: AJ Green now has missed the past a couple of 235 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: practices three to be specific. He has not been on 236 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: the field again. We don't know the extent or even 237 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: what the injuries are. So there is some rosters shuffling 238 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: as far as those last wide receivers. A team made 239 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: another roster move on Friday, letting go Isaac Whitney and 240 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: signing Aleva Hipho. Another kind of smaller wide receiver, but 241 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: someone who can return kicks, whether that's kickoffs or punts, 242 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: and that to me, you know, you know who the 243 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: four or five guys, or let's just say we know 244 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: who the four wide receivers are going to be. The 245 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: question becomes who because who is number five? Who is 246 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: number six? Yeah, I don't know if it's in flux. 247 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I know what you're saying again, these guys 248 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: wanting to be on the field, But you know it's 249 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: kind of plus minus here where Andy Isabella, Jojo Ward, 250 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: Keyshawn Johnson are getting more reps. I do. I would 251 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: agree with you, Andy Isabella, besides the two touchdowns, and 252 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: Andy's gonn a chance to play inside and outside, and 253 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's more probably before the necessity, the 254 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: team has got to have a log jam at the 255 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: slop position. So yeah, you prefer to have these guys 256 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: out there. But you know, at least these guys are 257 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: getting reps, and I gotta see I think we're gonna 258 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: see Andy Isabella a ton of the preseason. Now, how 259 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: many times is it Colt McCoy or is it Chris 260 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: Straveler throwing the ball to him? Because I don't know 261 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: how much the starters are going to play, but it's 262 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: all you can ask for his opportunities. And Jojo Ward 263 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: he's another guy that's flash. You know. I just think 264 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: the Cardinals feel like they need extra bodies and that's 265 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: why they're making a shuffle at the bottom of the 266 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: roster bringing in the receivers. But hopefully everyone's going to go. 267 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: But I like the fact that hop was back out 268 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: there today and one thing that we learned about hop 269 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: he's not giving up reps to rookies. No, he is 270 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: not going to give up his spot. If he will now, 271 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: he'll share his spot with an AJ Green. He's made 272 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: that perfectly clear. As far as that conversation happening between 273 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: those two veterans, and that I think that shows the 274 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: respect factor between these two. But if there is a 275 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: route or a play that Hopkins believes Green is better at, 276 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: or vice versa, then they'll have that communication and then 277 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: relay that to Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah, and 278 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: Kingsbury was asked, you know, he's heard about it, but 279 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: they didn't have to get his permission that he said 280 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: that's on much respect kind of what you hit on 281 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: right there for each other, knowing, you know, and maybe 282 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: in this situation, if he's drawn the second or third corner, 283 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: maybe he's a better And if you move Hopkins around 284 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: and teams playing his own, maybe he's going to draw 285 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: the second or third corner. So I like the fact 286 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: that you know, on the side, these guys are already 287 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: thinking about that stuff. And we know hop lined up 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: eighty two percent of the time. That's the most since 289 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: they've been keeping that stat since twenty fourteen. I don't 290 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: know if that number is going to change. And that's 291 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: really the air raid offense in college. You get the 292 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: X receiver, you put them on the outside, and then 293 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: because of the hash marks, you can go bunches on 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: the right. But you're looking for that number one corner 295 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: covering number one wide receiver, or on the other side 296 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: you can have the third or four fifth string cornerback 297 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: covering you know, you're number two and three years not 298 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL, But that's what they're looking for matchups. 299 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: And I think it's going to happen on game day. 300 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: This is a conversation that is going to happen on Sunday. Hey, 301 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: what did you see on this particular coverage. You know, 302 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: I think I can get away with this against this defender. 303 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: I think you might be better in this position with 304 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: regards to this play. And that's where you run a 305 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: play on the first half and all of a sudden 306 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: you see something like I think, if we just tweaked 307 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: it a little bit, let's run it again in the 308 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, which we think can be a much bigger play, 309 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you found something. It's 310 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: just it's those conversations here in training camp that matter 311 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: when the regular season begins. Yeah, I mean, and there's 312 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna be situations where you know, you break the huddle 313 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: pre snap read and all of a sudden they change 314 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: the defense. So I like the fact that you know, 315 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing a little bit pre snap motion and I 316 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: think we have lived to see what Sean mcvagh can 317 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: do with at that offense and Kyle Shanny and obviously 318 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: from a distance Andy read with Patrick Mahomes. So again, 319 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: how you break the huddle changes the formations, and that's 320 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: where the Cardinals are looking to get matchups. But it's 321 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: all going to be predicated on protection up front and 322 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: being able to run the football because you know, we 323 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: can talk about Chase Edmons. I know he's gonna be 324 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: the you know, sharing carries and touches with James Connor, 325 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: but he's very good in the passing game. I mean literally, 326 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: you can go for wide and have him in the 327 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: backfield and if nobody's open, a little dump off five 328 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: yard catch becomes a sixteen yard pickup or something. So 329 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: Chase and probably last year I think you and I 330 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: would say he was the third best receiver right correct, 331 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: and statistically speaking, he was, But I do think that 332 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: that is an advantage that he has over at James Connor. 333 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: Not that counter can't do it, but Edmonds is just 334 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: a little bit better at it. And with regards to 335 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: the priests nap motion, whether it's a running back moving 336 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: out of the backfield and in lining up his wide 337 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: receiver or coming across the line of scrimmage going in motion, 338 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: you know, are we seeing more of it in training 339 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: camp because our eyes are looking forward because of the 340 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: staff that you just alluded to, And was this always 341 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: the case last training camp? It just never materialized during 342 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: the regular season or did he just didn't you know, 343 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: because I don't think they wanted to put too much 344 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: on Chase's plate and obviously Drake, you know, when they 345 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: made the trade look really good, and then he was 346 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: trying to get the you know, hit the big hole 347 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: or get the big play, and that wasn't happening. So 348 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination to have better talent around 349 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and they feel like the protections up front, 350 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: so now you can kind of do some gadget plays, 351 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: and I gotta think Rondall Moore fits that. So you 352 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: could see Rondoll Moore and chasing the backfield together where 353 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: Chase goes out and then more becomes that gadget guy. 354 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: And we know they've tried that with Christian Kirk and 355 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: Indy Isabella over the years. But again, Rondel Moore is 356 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: going to be a weapon for this team and you 357 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: can't double everyone. Cardinals Training Camp powered by Cox As 358 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: we come to you here from State Farm Stadium and 359 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: our home away from home. I really love Law three 360 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: oh one. M Jam. 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We spoke in our most recent episode 378 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: a lot about the wide receivers and the raps and 379 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk not being on the field. He has returned 380 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: it a little bit more on Friday than he did 381 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: on Thursday, so that was good to see, and you 382 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: talked about it, Andy Isabella and Keyshawn Johnson taking advantage 383 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: of the day off given to DeAndre Hopkins and the 384 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: fact that aj Green has not been on the practice 385 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: field for the past couple of days. A couple of 386 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: points on this one Isabella's score on a touchdown on 387 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: a play Thursday that I know UMG have been wanting 388 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: to see more of, and that's Kyler Murray stepping up 389 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: in the pocket, eluding the outside rush, rolling right and 390 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: then throwing on the run and it was a strike 391 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: to Isabella for a score. Johnson had a nice over 392 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: the shoulder catch during one on one coverage. So those 393 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: two receivers, they are the back end of that depth chart. 394 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: I do think are making progress here, and we've tangible 395 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: evidence that they're making progress. And one of the things 396 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing the throw from eleven to nineteen yards. We 397 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: know we've always mentioned this, at least since the end 398 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: of the season when I was able to gather to 399 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: stat Kyler Murray and Aaron Rodgers head fourteen throws over 400 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: forty yards. Kyler Murray's numbers dip, completion percentage, quarterback rating 401 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: dips from eleven to nineteen. And now the fact that 402 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson trying to create that you where you can 403 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: step up in the pocket. You have to find you know, 404 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: you have to find lanes if you want to make 405 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: a tight throw or slant passed quickly, but the fact 406 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: that Isabella was in running the route and he hit 407 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: him in stride that goes a long way, and that 408 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: they always talk about yak yards after catch, but he 409 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: was able to get into the end zone. So I 410 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: like that because the eleven to nineteen to me is 411 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: the money downs. That's where you earn your money and 412 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: then you get in the red zone. You know, that's 413 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: where you got to score touchdowns versus vehicles. But I 414 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: do see an improvement from eleven to nineteen yards again, 415 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: intermediate routes YAK after that yards after catch. There was 416 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: another play Murray had a great downhill pass to Max 417 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: Williams with Isaiah Simmons and covers. The ball was thrown perfectly, 418 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: and that's another one of those eleven to nineteen yard 419 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: throws that Williams turned into twenty five thirty thirty five yards. 420 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: And that's something we did not see a lot of 421 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: last season, no, And that's something that you know clearly 422 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: if they can stay healthy at that wide receiver position 423 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: and you throw in Edmunds and Max Williams and l Daniels, 424 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: to me, those are easy throws for Kyler Murray and 425 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: just right over the middle. And you know, for the 426 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: most party, I mean Max Williams seems like he has 427 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: good hands. Now, if you got a safety rolyningback, there's 428 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: over there turning to chop at the ball, it could 429 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: come out to roll. Daniels is a guy that once 430 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: he catches the ball, he's big to bring down. So 431 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna have plenty of options when it comes to that. 432 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: But the intermediate stuff, that's where you move the chains, 433 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: and that's where you try to get it in the 434 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: red zone. Now, you and I had a conversation during 435 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: practice and you stopped me and said, let's wait until 436 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: the show. Head coach Cliff Kingsbury on Thursday was asked 437 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: specifically about Isabella and More did he see them as 438 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: vying for the same roster spot. He does not believe 439 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: that they're vying for the same roster spot. In fact, 440 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: he believes that they are different receivers. Isabella can play outside, inside, 441 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: while More quote is more of an inside guy, punt returner, 442 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: kick returner, trick play guy, get the ball to him 443 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: in space as many ways as you can. End quote. 444 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: I heard that MJ and I heard what Kingsbury and 445 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals said two years prior about Andy Isabella inside 446 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: outside punt returner, kick returner, gadget play guy. So I 447 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: do think that they are very similar wide receivers. Are 448 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: they buying for the same roster spot? I don't believe so, 449 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: although it is certainly something to pay attention to after 450 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: those first four, because we know Hop is in, we 451 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: know Green is in, we know Kirk is in, and 452 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: we know Rondel moris in. That's four. If you keep six, 453 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: two open spots. If you keep seven as they did 454 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, now you've got three open slots. Now, 455 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: Kingsbury brought that up as well as far as how 456 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: many receivers they'll keep. He brought up the numbers five 457 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: or six. I do think it might be more of 458 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: the ladder. But when you've got now what seven eight 459 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: guys buying for two spots, how do you figure out 460 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: who that number fifth and sixth receiver are going to be? 461 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: Because those two one is going to have to be 462 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: active on game day. Okay, we can go back and 463 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: look at the quotes. We know how excited Kingsbury was 464 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: in the flight plan when they drafted Isabella. But they 465 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: got you know Bryman Murphy prior to that, and then 466 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: Kylin Murray, so they thought that now again he went 467 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: to UMass, he played very well in those SEC games. 468 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: But here's a guy that went to Purdue, played in 469 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: the spread offense, and his two eighteen numbers are off 470 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: the charts. I mean he led the country and basically 471 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: yardage and receptions and yards per catch. So yeah, I 472 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: don't think there's a similar skill set. The only thing 473 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: they're similar I think is speed and maybe size. But 474 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: the fact is that Andy Isabella hasn't lived up to it. Now. 475 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: We've only seen Rondel Moore for a few months, so 476 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: he's got a long ways to go. And I say 477 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: tempered sometimes because there's no pass rush. You know, Darren 478 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: Urban sent a video out of him getting a touchdow 479 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: on Charles Washington. Well that's what the Cardinals are looking for. 480 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: You're looking for his safety on that matchup, but normally 481 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: you're going to see a corner on him. So I'll 482 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: temper it. But I just look at they gave opportunities 483 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: to Andy Isabella and Christian Kirk to return punts and 484 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: kicks and they failed. Whether it was the protection or 485 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, their head was spinning, at least for Isabella, 486 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: because you know, when you're catching a punt, the balls 487 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: in the air a little bit longer, and guys are 488 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: coming down the field like a like a like you know, 489 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: horses or deers are, and they're just right on you 490 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: and a little bit different. So they both didn't pass 491 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: the eye test. We'll see if he passed the eye test. 492 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: But the fact is now he's more of a slot guy, 493 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: and that's where I think Cliff can go four wide. 494 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kirk, rondel Moore, Green and Hopkins into where 495 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: you can play to their strengths. Now you can also 496 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: put Isabella out there on the outside because he may 497 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: draw the fourth corner, and we know that he has 498 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: the ability. So I think, you know, I know, it's 499 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: Cliffs saying it's always a numbers game. If they keep 500 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: four running backs on the roster, and maybe Eno Benjamin's 501 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: the fourth afterward and Connor and Edmunds, you dress three 502 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: on game day. If they keep three tight ends, we'll 503 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: see if they add one, or they're gonna stash a 504 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: couple of guys in a practice squad. You may go 505 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: into the game with two tight ends. So now you 506 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: can go into the game. They keep six on the roster. 507 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Five will be active on game day. So and right 508 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: now people want to say, well, why don't they trade? 509 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: I saw his field yates and he was hypothetical, So 510 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: I'll give him suggested trades for every single team. Yeah, 511 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: and he had the Cardinals trading Andy Isabella for Nikhil Harry. 512 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: First of all, that's not going to happen. And if 513 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm the Cardinals, I'm not trading Andy Isabella. He provides depth, 514 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: he's got something you can't teach, but he's got to 515 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: be productive on game day. So it's I mean he 516 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: could be in Honestly, he can be in sweats the 517 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: whole season, and that's I think you don't want to see, 518 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: especially out of his second round pick. That to me, 519 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: if you're inactive, I'll see and long, but you're just 520 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: there for depth. That's to your points. That's a failure 521 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals part as far as recognizing what Andy 522 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Isabella could do on Sundays because we haven't seen it. 523 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: What But I also think considering Kirk's hit and miss, 524 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: staying healthy, andre Aj Green staying healthy. I mean we 525 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: can sit here today and say Chase Emmons and James 526 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Conner are gonna play seventeen games, so there's gonna be 527 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: it's a longer season now and we get to the 528 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: bye week where they at So I do think you're 529 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna it wouldn't surprise me if Joejoe Award and the 530 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals could bring in another receiver. I think they're gonna 531 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: have two or three on the practice squad, but injuries occur, 532 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: so you better have at least six guys that have 533 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: some NFL experience. Well with Isabella and Keishawn Johnson, are 534 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: you better off with those two or are you better 535 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: off with a Joejoe Award? Are you better off with 536 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: a Greg Dorts, who they just added and certainly has 537 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: the ability to return kicks? And Antoine Wesley, I know 538 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: certain flashed early in training camp. We haven't seen him 539 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: on the field for whatever reason the past couple of days. 540 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: But the reason I all keep bringing up Antoine Wesley 541 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: is because of his height. He's six foot four. They 542 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: don't have another six foot four wide receiver outside of 543 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: aj Green. This team, for whatever reason, loves the under 544 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: six foot wide receiver. What's wrong with a six three, 545 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: six four guy? And if you don't always have that 546 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: four wide set, then you can get away with not 547 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: having an extra slot guy run three wide with another 548 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: tie it end or another running back. And it's going 549 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: to become who is available and active and who does 550 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator Assistant head coach Jeff Rogers trust as 551 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: far as special teams, Keyshawn Johnson is working more as 552 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: far as a gunner, have seen Andy Abella work as 553 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: a gunner, and he's still trying to feel kicks. I 554 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: don't think Isabella is going to be back there for 555 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: punts or kickoffs. They've tried that, they've seen what it is, 556 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: they don't like what it looks like. I think that's 557 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: no longer a case. That just might be a case 558 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: of emergency break glass situation. But I like I am 559 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: hesitant to say Andy Isabella has a spot on this 560 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: roster as we speak here on Friday, August sixth. Yeah, 561 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go the other out. And the reason 562 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: why they had these small receivers is just because when 563 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: you got when you got guys sixty three, sixty four, 564 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: they kind of lumber down the field. Even though I've 565 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: been impressed with aj Green's speed here you know, getting 566 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: around the corner, get the fifty fifty balls. But those 567 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: those small guys, that's kind of what the offense is. 568 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: You look at John Brown, Cole Beasley, you look at 569 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 1: Cde Lamb, you look at Amari Cooper. So you have 570 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: to have those guys because some of these corners are 571 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: six feet tall now and it's tough to get press 572 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: coverage at the line of scrimmage. You know, ideally you 573 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: like they have six three, six, four six five tight ends. 574 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Now for Wesley at this point, I gotta think he's 575 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: going to be a practice squad option. Yeah, just because, 576 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: as we talked about earlier on Cardinals Cover two presented 577 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: by Hunday, probably partner of the arrows the Cardinals, your 578 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: best ability is availability, and he has not been available 579 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Again, head coach Cliff Kingsbury has chosen 580 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: not to be forthcoming with injuries. He does not have 581 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: to be here in the preseason or in training camp. Yes, 582 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: that will change once the regular season rolls around. But 583 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: this wide receiver position, and let's hope that you know, 584 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: the conversations that you have in training camp are always 585 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: about the backups, the depth at certain positions. It's hardly 586 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: ever about the starters. Yeah, you'd like to see them 587 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: on the field and do well, but you find the 588 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: depth in training camp and then hopefully you never get 589 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: to use it come the regular season. And that's why 590 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: a lot of this and MJ, we might not never 591 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: have another discussion about Andy Isabella, Kishawn Johnson, or Antoine 592 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Wesley the rest of the regular season. And if that's 593 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 1: the case, that means Hop has been healthy, Grain has 594 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: been healthy, Kirk has been healthy, and Rondel Moore has 595 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: been healthy. And those are your four wide receivers that 596 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: you can count on. Add the tight end position, add 597 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: the running backs. Now you've got your weapons that Kyler 598 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: Murray can throw too. It's what happens when those guys 599 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: aren't available, whether it's for injury or for COVID nineteen protocols. 600 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: And then to your point, where is the depth coming from? 601 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: Do you keep someone on the active roster or do 602 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: you try to slide someone onto the practice squad? Yeah, 603 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: and that's where I think Jonathan Ward and possibly you 604 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: know Benjamin again, if he makes it to fifty three 605 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: and they keep four and dress three on game day, 606 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: we know Jonathan Warred's going to be involved in all 607 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: the special teams and he looks really good as a 608 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: running back. Kind of got a little skill set of 609 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: Chase and Connor. So yeah, I mean, that's that's what 610 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: it becomes. But I don't know if people are focusing 611 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: so much. You know, only three preseason games, but seventeen 612 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: games schedule mean a lot of guys have a hard 613 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: time staying healthy from fourteen games fifteen games, so there's 614 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: no guarantee. And you know, Kyler Murray has been banged 615 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: up the last couple of years playing a sixteen game schedule. 616 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: Now it's going to be a seventeen game schedule, so 617 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have depth and you better make 618 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: sure you have some guys that can plug and play. 619 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Now that's you know, the production will go down, But 620 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: don't go in there and be an empty chair, because 621 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: they are going to count on you. And that's the 622 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: beauty of these these young players getting a ton of 623 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: reps on Saturday and then hopefully in the preseason because 624 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: the next time they play Craig, the lights gonna be 625 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: bright and the game is gonna be a lot faster 626 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: than it's been in training camp. And one of those 627 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: opportunities does come during the Red and White practice on Saturday, 628 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: August seventh, one thirty to three here at State Farm Stadium. 629 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: Fans in attendance, the bright lights, the entire pregame pageantry 630 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: more like a dress rehearsal, if you will, and hopefully 631 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: these guys that we talk about, as far as those 632 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: second and third teamers, do take a step up. One 633 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: player that I do want to touch on certainly has 634 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: made progress, and that is running back Eno Benjamin, who 635 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: did on Thursday receive some first team reps. Gordy the 636 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: head coach Cla Kingsbury quote, I can't tell you how 637 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: far he's come from training camp to now, and he 638 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: mentioned being Benjamin's work in pass protection and special teams, 639 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: and then out of this, I'm excited to watch him 640 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: in preseason end quote. If you know Benjamin, who did 641 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: not have a preseason last season, is able to show 642 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: what the coaches have seen in the offseason and here 643 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: in training camp, then there might be a way for 644 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: him to either force their hand and carry four running 645 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: backs or slide past a Jonathan Ward and be that 646 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: number three running back if that's the number at the 647 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: end of the day, that that is what they keep. 648 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: As far as the fifty three man roster is concerned. Yeah, 649 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: I just think Ward, based on being an undrafted free agent, 650 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: really virtual offseason, no preseason games any You know, you 651 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: got to give that guy a lot of credit. It's 652 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: a great story, and you know, unless you know performs 653 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: now again, if he's going against second and third stringers, 654 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: he can't control that. But some of those guys will 655 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: not be on the roster. So I have a hard 656 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: time thinking as of today what I've seen that he's 657 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: going to be able to overtake Jonathan Ward. But I 658 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: like it that he's in a good spot where last year, 659 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, clearly he didn't play on teams, so he's 660 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: probably running the scout team. But now you know he's 661 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: going to get a ton of time and he's really 662 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: one player away from being active on game day. He's 663 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: running the ball well, he's catching the ball well, he's 664 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: held up in pass protection as we mentioned, and also 665 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: getting more work on special teams and that last part 666 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: the special team's aspect. And maybe it was because there 667 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: was not an offseason for him to be a part of, 668 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: so whever he just couldn't show case what his abilities 669 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: are in that aspect because if you are that third 670 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: running back active on game day, you might not see 671 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: a single carry, but you will see snaps on the 672 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: field on special teams. Two things stick out for me 673 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: on Benjamin just watching the first couple days of practice 674 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: to two seats confident and comfortable. And for those listening, 675 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: if you can apply that in your daily life. When 676 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: you become comfortable and confident, you have a lot of confidence. 677 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: You can go in there and say I can do 678 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: what he can do. Maybe I'm not getting the same opportunities, 679 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: but being confident and comfortable makes you more relaxes as 680 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: a player. And now I just go out there and 681 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: let my skill set do the talking. We all want 682 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: to see him succeed because we've watched him at Arizona State, 683 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: just down the road from the complex in Tampe and 684 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: now hopefully this is the year we get to see 685 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: him on Sundays. It's he was put along with that 686 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: entire rookie class MJ. They were put in difficult circumstances 687 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: and maybe that and that reason alone is why you 688 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: know Benjamin was a spectator last seas well. We always 689 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: talk about Craig. I mean even for Isaiah Simmons, and 690 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm beating the dead drum here because 691 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: I said, give this guy an entire offseason and give 692 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: him three preseason games, and you're gonna see the fruits 693 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: of the labor there. This is where ENO's gonna have 694 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: to flash. I mean, so He's got every opportunity. And listen, 695 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: James Connor's on a one year deal. They're not the 696 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: same back, but you can also make the case if 697 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan Moore continues to evolve, he could be your backup 698 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: next year. We know teams don't like paying big money, 699 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, you know, Benjamin becomes your 700 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: third bound back. Now you got He's very similar to 701 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: Chase size wise, and maybe it doesn't have the same 702 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, catching ability, even though he's good in press protection. 703 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: But he's kind of a you know, maybe a one 704 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: bee when it comes to Chase head where Jonathan awards 705 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: like one bee both on Connor and Edmunds. But Connor's 706 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: on a one year daily plays well enough, you know 707 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals going to extend him. Chase obviously is 708 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: a guy that I think we'll get a contract extension. 709 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: So ENO's in a good spot. It's just got to 710 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: be patient, easy for me to say when a player 711 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: wants to play bird Gang. If you like what you hear, 712 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: subscribe to Airs on a Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 713 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: Google Podcasts, and Stitcher. Listening to your favorite shows on 714 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: the go like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rays, The 715 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red se Report. Of course this show Cardinals covered 716 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: two and coming soon the Dave Pash Podcast debuting Guest eleventh. 717 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: Visitasy Cardinals dot com Slash podcast for more information. A 718 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: couple of other points to make here about Cardinals training 719 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: camp powered by Cox. The officials have been here since 720 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: Thursday referee Bill Vinovich and his crew. Vinovich reffed Super 721 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty four, which saw the Chiefs beat the forty 722 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: nine Ers. I did see Ivanovich speak with Kingsbury before 723 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Thursday's practice. They'll be here through Saturday's red and white practice, 724 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: and it was telling that during Thursday's padded practice a 725 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: lot more flags thrown up in the air, and according 726 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: to Kingsbury, that was by design. He wanted the officials 727 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: to call the game or their team periods if you will, tight, 728 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: because he is making it a huge point of emphasis 729 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: as far as penalties are concerned, and we've seen it. 730 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: If you commit a penalty, you're off the field for 731 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: at least one snap and it is being hammered home daily. 732 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: I would say hourly, if you will see in the 733 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: team meetings as well. But and if you're out here 734 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: for the run hye practice on Saturday, there might be 735 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: some laundry on the field, But just know that that 736 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: is by design. Any little thing. And we know you 737 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: can call a penalty on every single play in the 738 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: National Football League, but any little thing. These officials have 739 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: been told, blow your whistle, throw the flag and explain why. 740 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: So we can get this taken care of. The most 741 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: penalized team of all of last season, the Arizona Cardinals, 742 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: can't happen this year. And it's been a point of 743 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: emphasis in the offseasons to put a point of emphasis 744 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: and their team meeting when they address the team moving forward, 745 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: and you talk to any player day, Kyler Murray is 746 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: probably the first one that brings it up. The little 747 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: things are going to come back to Hanna, so they 748 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: have in the past, and that's where you got to 749 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: cut out. So I like it, and Cliff knows that 750 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: you can't be the most penalized team. I mean, you know, 751 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: we know he's a player's coach, really doesn't think a 752 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: whole lot of drama. But you know what, at the 753 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: end of the day, if your team's not winning and 754 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: because of stall drives and pre and post nap penalties, 755 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: that has to come on the players initially, but ultimately 756 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: it comes from the head coach discipline. That's why you 757 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: look at New England less or the least penalized team 758 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: in the league. And maybe you're saying, well, the officials 759 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: don't want to you know, upset Bill Belichick. Look at 760 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: the teams that are in the playoffs and look how 761 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: many penalties they have. They don't beat themselves. Yeah, well 762 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: said some housecleaning items. As far as where players are 763 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: when they're knots on the football field, and how much 764 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: longer do we have to wait to see them on 765 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: the football field? JJ Watt is yet to practice. I 766 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: have zero as I point to, I have zero concern 767 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: about him. Jordan Phillips, coach, was asked about him and 768 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: according to Kingsbury, Phillips's expected back quote in the near future. 769 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: What does that mean? I don't know, but he's missed 770 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: six straight practices, and that is someone the Cardinals, MJ 771 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: we're counting on. I'm along that defensive line, the JJ Watt, 772 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: with the Zach Allen and Richard Lawrence and like he 773 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: foted to that is a big piece to this puzzle 774 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: that I want to see in uniform. Yeah, and I 775 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: don't know how much he's going to play in the preseason. 776 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: You just you know. Obviously he was doing some gasters 777 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: with Corey Peters a couple of days ago. But again, 778 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 1: you got to get into football shape. And that's gonna 779 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: be Now. He's not gonna play every snap, but he's 780 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: penciled in to be the starter. I mean, and they 781 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: went out and gave reward him with a nice contract. 782 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give him a mulligan for last year. 783 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: So I want to I want to see a productive 784 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips because they need him just like they need 785 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks. They need these guys and that's the reason 786 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: why they're still on the roster. So ideally, you'd like 787 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: to have a nice little rotation with Zack Allen, j 788 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: J Watt, Jordan Phillips and then he's throw in the 789 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, Xavier Williams, like he foe to Richard Lawrence's 790 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: and then Corey Peters. That's the rotation you want, but 791 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: he's a big fixture when it comes to the outside. 792 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: Trying to set the asual out Chandler Jones, Marcus Golden 793 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: Connard to get to the quarterback so again, and I 794 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: don't know how much she's going to play in the preseason, 795 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: but I want to make sure he's practicing before they 796 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: go into the regular season at the end of the day, 797 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully he can play all seventeen games. Based on 798 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: his history, that would be, you know, really important for 799 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: his career in Arizona. Again, he plays a physical position, 800 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: so if he plays fourteen or fifteen, and if it 801 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: happens early versus late where he can give you something 802 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, sign me up for it. But I 803 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: prefer all seventeen games. But that's just me thinking out loud. 804 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: The other player we received an updates on Friday, Brian Winters, 805 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: who we projected to be the starting right guard, has 806 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: been out for several days and according to Kingsbury, we'll 807 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: be back before the season gets started. That certainly stood 808 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: out to me that comments we're talking about another five 809 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: six weeks, so Brian Winters was signed in the offseason 810 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: as competition for that right guard spot with Josh Jones 811 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: and Max Garcia. Now Garcia is working a lot more 812 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: at the center position to be the backup to Rodney Hudson. 813 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: Justin Murray also in that mix, but he has missed 814 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: the past couple of practices as well. Three in facts 815 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: and now Josh Jones, who was drafted as a tackle 816 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: in the third round, is seeing a lot and I 817 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: mean a lot of first team reps at right guard 818 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: to where once again, your best ability is availability Josh Jones. 819 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: Right now, if you're handicapping this race at right guard, 820 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: Josh Jones is in the lead, MJ. And he is 821 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: by far in the lead. And I still think, you know, 822 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: he got his feet wet last year, maybe sixty one 823 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: offensive snaps, coming in as an extra blocker and then 824 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: also getting a chance to play on some of the 825 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: special teams. You know, I still think he's got a 826 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: waste to go. But they're really excited about his upside 827 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: and the fact that he can play four different positions, 828 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: both guards now and then both tackle spots. You know, 829 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: I gotta think right now, with Beecham on the right side, 830 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: and if you know, Winners isn't able to return at 831 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: a high level, He's got to get back into football shape. 832 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: Then Josh Jones will start, and I would think Justin 833 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: Murray will be your swing tackle. I mean, that's just 834 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: the way it is right now. And then you mentioned 835 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: Max Garcia. But you know one one guy that we 836 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: were told today watching practice by one of the scouts's 837 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: Josh Miles. Josh Miles, you just think he's kind of 838 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: an afterthought. You got your future left tackle. You know, 839 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: obviously in Dj Humphries. You know they moved on from 840 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: one a month Billiard. But Josh Miles is turning some 841 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: heads and that would be a pleasant surprise because we 842 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: always talk about the top eight and we know they're 843 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: going to have a couple of guys in the practice squad, 844 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: but really this camps about development. Clearly, they're really well 845 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: at left guard, left tackles, center, right guards kind of 846 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: wide open, and right tackle. But it'd be nice to 847 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: see Josh Miles be part of the future. But right now, 848 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: Josh Jones looked like he could be the guy, and 849 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: you know, Winners would be your first guy in if 850 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: something happened. I just got to wait and see because 851 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: going in Winners was getting the majority of the reps 852 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: and eventually he probably would have got a day off 853 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: veteran guy. But we'll see when he returns, because if 854 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: he's going to be ready for the opener, and you 855 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: got to think he's gonna have to start practicing, maybe 856 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: after that third preseason game and they can alternate to 857 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: see who's the best and what did I say at 858 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, Kugler's playing the best five guys. 859 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: Regardless of where you were drafted, how you got here, 860 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: it's what you've done in camp to he feels comfortable 861 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: and then worst case, you'll be a backup. By the way, 862 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: Miles part of that twenty nineteen draft class, seventh round 863 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: selection out of Morgan, States, six foot five, three hundred 864 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: twenty five pounds, and someone that's is turning heads at 865 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: least amongst those that it matters the most, and that's 866 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, that's the scouting department, to where maybe 867 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: it's not the active roster, but he is found a 868 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: home and someone that they think they can develop. So maybe, 869 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: if not in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, he 870 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: becomes one of those guys. And you know I followed 871 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: up and said, could he play right tackle more of 872 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: a left tackle? Right tackles more where you're going to 873 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: run the ball, and usually that defensive line or outside 874 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: linebackers a little bit more bigger and more physical where 875 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: you get the legitimate pass rusher on the left side, 876 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: better feet, and get to the quarterback quicker. So you 877 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: can never have enough depth. And hopefully Humphreys can stay 878 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: healthy and continue what he's done because he should have 879 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl and hopefully he's in on some 880 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: of these NFC All Pro lists. Yeah, well, knock on 881 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: wood on that that Humphrey does take that next marble. Yeah, 882 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: I know it's marble. Okay, I gotta find somewhat found it. 883 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: So we're all good, Burgame. That is good to know 884 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: here on this Friday, our first, by the way, football Friday, 885 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna claim it right now, and football Friday because 886 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: the preseason is upon us. We had our first Hall 887 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: of Fame game on Thursday. So yes, it is a 888 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: foot ball Friday. What about a fitz Friday? Who how 889 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: quickly they forget? So Cardinals, all three games are on 890 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: a Friday. No, the Saints game is on a Saturday, 891 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: my birthday. Oh is that a hint? No Augusta. Over 892 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: the years, it's happened either practiced, So no worries. I 893 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: don't have no plans that go out after the show. 894 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: We'll have to see about that. On that note for 895 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: a game, let's put a lid on this edition of 896 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyunday, probably partner of the 897 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer, 898 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: Jim I'm a hundred for Mike Jarecki. I'm Greg Rio Loup. 899 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two. 900 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: He said, we'll see