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Speaker 1: Special guests, g Herbo. It's time for that Big Facts.
Speaker 1: What's going on with everybody? Everybody good? Everybody good on
Speaker 1: this fine day. That's what that's what up? Herbro? Man?
Speaker 1: You you were like one of the most requested, if
Speaker 1: not the most requested guests for Big Facts, So welcome.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. To look forward to that
Speaker 1: conversation myself. I ain't gonna requested, are you if you're
Speaker 1: a fan fan of the show like you. So that's
Speaker 1: the coaching man, I asked you, Man, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: wanted to pull up. I ain't never really like requesting
Speaker 1: myself to go on those ships. I ain't gonna that,
Speaker 1: Big Bro, I tell you. I used to tell him
Speaker 1: like myself, like, man, I need to do that ship. Man,
Speaker 1: come we do? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, new project going crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Congratulations on that. What's on
Speaker 1: Herbo mind to day? Man? Today? Man, I'm just chilling, man.
Speaker 1: I just want to pick my son up right now?
Speaker 1: Something that evo this ship? Okay, you know I not
Speaker 1: coming to in line. I'll really be hanging out for
Speaker 1: real unless I win my son and ship. So I
Speaker 1: just put up right here because that's the home team,
Speaker 1: you know, and PU up right here. What's the spot
Speaker 1: should be working with when you're in the eight time ship?
Speaker 1: Couple of cold, cop of cold? Right, shout the rugs.
Speaker 1: They got everything up there, man Ni took old bucket right,
Speaker 1: they got the white boy in place. Now they do
Speaker 1: whatever right right? Yeah? Yeah, that's all it too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: running up him a couple of dollars now, I know
Speaker 1: exactly what we're talking about. Two pie boyshit too boy.
Speaker 1: Recently you showed a lot of loves Nicki minajh who
Speaker 1: gave you, I guess, your first big co sign of
Speaker 1: feature and you were saying ship like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, she harder than a lot of male rappers
Speaker 1: and all that ship and also that I guess that
Speaker 1: you know a feature from Nicki Minaj's Life Change And
Speaker 1: who else do you think outside of Nicki Minaj has
Speaker 1: like that life changing feature ability? Um Drake for yeah drake,
Speaker 1: UM should a couple of artists. It just depend on
Speaker 1: like what you do with and how you do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Whole that could be a
Speaker 1: life change situation. A lot of people like Meet the
Speaker 1: Future thug, A lot of that ship could change your life.
Speaker 1: It just depends on how you position you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying the record for real, but yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like the right coach in the right coach sine
Speaker 1: and definitely take you all the way over the top
Speaker 1: for show and then do you see yourself in the
Speaker 1: space of blessing maybe some other Chicago artists or other
Speaker 1: people too, because you kind of in that situation too.
Speaker 1: Jehr wo get you that coach sign. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, for sure. It's a bunch of
Speaker 1: artists like and it's really not down yourself down like
Speaker 1: Savage one of them artists that you can coach you
Speaker 1: and take you over the top. Um. I feel like
Speaker 1: I could do it too though. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: definitely one of them artists that could. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I did it be photo, you know, like
Speaker 1: not is with just a feature just a coaching Like
Speaker 1: a lot of artists are coming out of Chicago. I
Speaker 1: would like CoA sing or play their music and laughing ship,
Speaker 1: and then it was just really like pipe their whole movement,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I feel like it's
Speaker 1: really like that's just one part of it. Though. You
Speaker 1: gotta have the talent for sure, though, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You gotta have the talent people. The people
Speaker 1: gotta funk with your movements. So I feel like CoA sage,
Speaker 1: that's just that's easy. If if my fucking real and
Speaker 1: they're gonna rock with you, we don't really cost no money.
Speaker 1: Like I don't really be trying to do it like
Speaker 1: just coaching somebody ship or play somebody ship to kind
Speaker 1: of position myself to benefit off this ship, you know,
Speaker 1: so I'll really be funking with it. Like a lot
Speaker 1: of times, like my team and home, these people around
Speaker 1: me like, man, you've got to stop doing that. But
Speaker 1: it's like for what ship, And I'm just showing love.
Speaker 1: I want to see niggas win, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's what you really do it. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: times I didn't actually wanted to sound artists and play
Speaker 1: their ship and then then signing them and I ain't
Speaker 1: never had no bad blood and no ill feelings, and
Speaker 1: then towards them, you know, I just I funked with it.
Speaker 1: I genuinely funk with it. So you was doing something
Speaker 1: right to even make me want to playoff, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's what it's about for real. So
Speaker 1: when you drive PTSD that was like your first top
Speaker 1: ten entry and then now that you drop debuted at
Speaker 1: number five on the list, So how do what do
Speaker 1: you feel like is your growth from the ptsd s
Speaker 1: in the well really from welcome to Phase I landed
Speaker 1: to the PTSDs and like, what do you think? How
Speaker 1: do you think you evolved from then to now? Really
Speaker 1: it's just I feel like I just stayed solid through anything,
Speaker 1: you know, because when I dropped my first project, well
Speaker 1: from the phase on land, I was like seventeen years
Speaker 1: old like that. Yeah, I was young at hill, but
Speaker 1: I was really like in the streets more so than anything,
Speaker 1: you know. So I like, it's a lot of ship
Speaker 1: that comes in the like behind the scenes of the industry,
Speaker 1: a lot of adversity and a lot of ships you
Speaker 1: gotta overcome, especially being independent. I've been independent the whole time.
Speaker 1: I've been an artist, so I had I felt like
Speaker 1: I took the long route, you know. Yeah, the more
Speaker 1: I've been through ship and overcame and I grew as
Speaker 1: a man. You know what I'm saying that the more
Speaker 1: I grew as a man, I grew as an artist.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that was really the difference, and
Speaker 1: it reflected through my music. I never had like one record,
Speaker 1: a big record that just blew me up and turned
Speaker 1: me to this big style overnight, and no ship like that.
Speaker 1: You know. I always just did good business and just
Speaker 1: whether the storm because I go through a lot of
Speaker 1: ship behind closed doors, like in the industry, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, whether it's just ironing out you know,
Speaker 1: ship on internally with my business. Really Like one of
Speaker 1: the toughest things I did, though, was leaving the streets
Speaker 1: for real and just chasing only music, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like separating myself from a lot of ship,
Speaker 1: a lot of negative ship, a lot of my homies,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And and they had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with like no bad blood and none. I
Speaker 1: just felt like I was so deep in the streets,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't really grow stayed in my same environment,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be where I'm at right now today. So
Speaker 1: I had to take a real step back from like
Speaker 1: everything you know, and and my music grew Like that
Speaker 1: was around the time I dropped a Humble Beasts, which
Speaker 1: is my first album, and I felt like I grew
Speaker 1: as an artist, like my music mature the ship like that,
Speaker 1: So just them different transitions. Then I had a son
Speaker 1: around that time, and I just started to grow. And
Speaker 1: I feel like my music the more I grow, you
Speaker 1: could tell through my music, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I feel like I go through a lot of like
Speaker 1: dark ship behind closed door that I don't really talk
Speaker 1: about on the internet, you know, ship like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I just locked myself in
Speaker 1: the studio like when I'd be stretched out and going
Speaker 1: through ship. I just isolate myself from anything and go
Speaker 1: to the studio every day and just put it in
Speaker 1: my music. That ship like a former therapy for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I feel like every
Speaker 1: time I do that, I just blossom through music, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And with with two five, I
Speaker 1: went through like a lot of ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. My little brother, dad and Jane weary. I
Speaker 1: was just falling back from that. I had a baby,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Another son I just head
Speaker 1: and made, so like just getting into that transition of
Speaker 1: my life, you know what I'm saying. With like they
Speaker 1: could be stressing it facing trauma and still having to
Speaker 1: go home and be a boyfriend and be a father
Speaker 1: and be a son and an artist and all this.
Speaker 1: You gotta put on a certain face for everybody in
Speaker 1: the world, but behind closed doors could be really like
Speaker 1: selling a weight, like realistic. So I like, I'll just
Speaker 1: be trying to not let that ship rub off on nobody.
Speaker 1: Like I don't want my girl to be feeling the
Speaker 1: pain on feeling that day, or my mom or my
Speaker 1: kids and all that. So in order to do so,
Speaker 1: I gotta like make a sacrifice and take that time
Speaker 1: away from them until I get myself together, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then the only thing that makes
Speaker 1: me feel good is doing music. So I feel like
Speaker 1: that's why my music reflect that, you know so much,
Speaker 1: So like all the stuff that you were going through
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that you've been through, like from
Speaker 1: growing up and even that you still go through as
Speaker 1: an adult. Was that kind of like the catalyst that
Speaker 1: made you start the swerving through stress last year? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did that because when I go back home, I'll
Speaker 1: be seeing it like I see myself and my homies
Speaker 1: and ship like and so much like in so many
Speaker 1: of the kids that I interact with on the day
Speaker 1: to day. You know what I'm saying. Like I used
Speaker 1: to listen to nobody. I've been rapping so I was
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, you know. So I've been on my
Speaker 1: same team, my same being a partner, my same manager,
Speaker 1: all of sixteen years old. I always had like good
Speaker 1: solid people around me, but I still deal what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do. You know what I'm saying. I had
Speaker 1: my partner, I had and they is invested in me.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid sixteen years or I was
Speaker 1: still in the streets like dugging, I could have died.
Speaker 1: I went to jail any date, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't really thinking about nothing but myself. It's
Speaker 1: nothing nobody could have told me or could have gave
Speaker 1: me no advice that just would have made me leading
Speaker 1: streets because that's all I wanted to do. I love
Speaker 1: it so we're saying that I'm trying to say, like,
Speaker 1: kids don't really listen until it's either somebody gonna have
Speaker 1: to show them that they really care enough to make
Speaker 1: them want to have another alternative. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you could telling oh, no, you go dad, go
Speaker 1: to jail in the streets. Everybody know that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like everybody knows what they up against
Speaker 1: when they really in it and putting themselves in these
Speaker 1: environments and in the lane of fire every day. But
Speaker 1: what's your alternative? You can't have no kid like or
Speaker 1: a grown man, nobody. You can't have nobody who this
Speaker 1: all they know you want them to change their life
Speaker 1: around the blink of an average Right, You're trying trying
Speaker 1: to tell a nigger like no, this this You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like, even though I had talent
Speaker 1: and I was doing music the whole time, and I
Speaker 1: felt like I could make it, but the only thing
Speaker 1: that I felt was working for me was being in
Speaker 1: the streets. I felt the safest in the streets. I
Speaker 1: felt like I was the most It was the most
Speaker 1: beneficial for me. That was the only way I knew
Speaker 1: how to make some money. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I want making money off wrap when I was
Speaker 1: seventeen years old for real, Like it wasn't enough for
Speaker 1: me to just dedicate myself straight to it and swerting
Speaker 1: through stress. Idea that because I feel like kids listen
Speaker 1: to me, especially in Chicago, like because they know I
Speaker 1: really come from that, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: already made a name for myself in the streets before
Speaker 1: I was like this big artist, So a lot of
Speaker 1: people really know me out there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So for me to be able to come back and
Speaker 1: they see, I got ship that's tangible, I got property
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I got to school in Chicago, and I'm
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, and they seeing me like then
Speaker 1: it's possible. And I'm telling them like now I only
Speaker 1: want to come back and motivate you because I was once.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you could do the same ship.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't went to the jails and ship
Speaker 1: like that, and a lot of time, like I just
Speaker 1: look at the kids, they don't really listen to nobody.
Speaker 1: And then I come and talk to him and then
Speaker 1: they had to like one time this kid told me like, man,
Speaker 1: I got juvenile life, and as soon as I get
Speaker 1: out of jail, I'm going right right to the joint. Man,
Speaker 1: they ain't no hope for me. And I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: what they want you to think. They really want you
Speaker 1: to feel like it's no way for you to ever
Speaker 1: overcome any of the ship you're going through. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That that's why I started that initiative.
Speaker 1: If you feel me, because it ain't just about me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go I name my son ESSs
Speaker 1: Man after my block. I don't want to go back
Speaker 1: to my hood if I can't bring my kids over there,
Speaker 1: if I can't make that ship good enough for me
Speaker 1: to be able to stand out there, and I have
Speaker 1: to carry no gun when I'm thirty five forty years
Speaker 1: old and ain't when I'm doing this ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And it's about putting the resources back
Speaker 1: into it, putting the resources back into the community. I
Speaker 1: know rappers, I know NBA players, I know engineers. Like
Speaker 1: that's why the building we got we're gonna turn into
Speaker 1: a multi media facility because it's like nigger got the resources,
Speaker 1: we got everything that we could put back into the community.
Speaker 1: I could have my homeies. Are you fucking me? Let's
Speaker 1: go back and just talk to these kids about engineering.
Speaker 1: To talk to these kids about the ends and outs,
Speaker 1: going to play pro basketball or college basketball on the
Speaker 1: high level, or you know, just produce production, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: whatever your specialty, whatever your specialty is, just go back
Speaker 1: and just not even just showing them how to do it,
Speaker 1: but just letting them see and feel. You like, that
Speaker 1: ship a different feeling from seeing somebody on the internet
Speaker 1: and then being right in front of you and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh damn, it's a real nigga too. He actually a
Speaker 1: real person. Like people really looking at us and feel
Speaker 1: like we superheroes because we're on the internet and we
Speaker 1: get you know, we regular people. Like if you go
Speaker 1: and have a regular conversation with somebody, that ship could
Speaker 1: really change their life. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: I learned that just off experience. You feel me. So
Speaker 1: that's why that ship like just as important as the
Speaker 1: music to me. For what was that one moment, oh,
Speaker 1: one thing that happened to made you feel like I
Speaker 1: can do this ship? Um Man, I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 1: really and I ain't even just saying like on the
Speaker 1: other ship. Like really, when when Nikki flew me to
Speaker 1: l A, like she actually flew me to l A
Speaker 1: for real and just hit me in the studio over
Speaker 1: there and like telling me like, no, I only reached
Speaker 1: out to you because I funk with you, like I
Speaker 1: really like your flows and all this ship. That ship
Speaker 1: inspired me to make this song. And I'm like me,
Speaker 1: that ship really tricked me out. So when I did
Speaker 1: the song with the ship came out like a success
Speaker 1: for real. And then she brought me out for summer
Speaker 1: jam and I'm going back home and it's like my
Speaker 1: whole world changed a little bit because I was still
Speaker 1: in the streets. Don't get me wrong, but like just
Speaker 1: the reaction I get from people just made me feel
Speaker 1: like it inspired me to feel like I know, I
Speaker 1: gotta do this ship. I gotta do it no for real,
Speaker 1: Like everywhere I went, like everything anybody interacted with, the
Speaker 1: reaction was different. Like the police are treat me different,
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship. Like I used to get breaks
Speaker 1: from the police didn't want to lock me up no more.
Speaker 1: They asked me all type of goofy asked questions. He
Speaker 1: was so nicknas, I asked some fanship you know, so
Speaker 1: it kind of like it made me feel like I
Speaker 1: don't really feel like I was there yet, but I'm
Speaker 1: like these people really acknowledging me, like I could really
Speaker 1: get there, you know what I'm saying. And that was
Speaker 1: a lot that it was definitely like a game changing
Speaker 1: for me. Like and I always was like humble and modest.
Speaker 1: I never really lived at no moment, so I wasn't
Speaker 1: even tripping, like I felt good about having a song.
Speaker 1: But when I went back on North and to go
Speaker 1: right back into the same environments you feel, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But it's just the reaction that I got from people
Speaker 1: going to the studio, people are really teping, like no,
Speaker 1: you were stopped, but made you just say fun that
Speaker 1: I gotta leave. I gotta leave to sit. Man, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna allow I was getting too much trouble bro
Speaker 1: I was like going to jail and getting the chasing
Speaker 1: and ship with the police all the time, like every
Speaker 1: day though, like every single day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I'm like, man, I can't do it
Speaker 1: for real. Like I was probably like nineteen going on
Speaker 1: twenty years old, and I had just bought my mama house.
Speaker 1: I bought my mama house in the suburbs, and I
Speaker 1: was still like just in the streets for real. So
Speaker 1: I go outside, I gotta travel thirty minutes just to
Speaker 1: get to my hood because my mama lives so fine.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, well, I don't even having to go. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't even driving thirty minutes to go being some boyshit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I really like, as
Speaker 1: soon as I get over there, police locking, niggers up,
Speaker 1: I'm getting the hash to be chases and all types
Speaker 1: of crazy ship and I ain't like it was just
Speaker 1: one last little situation where I'm like, I can't keep
Speaker 1: doing this ship. I know for a fact if I
Speaker 1: just keep on like just putting myself in these environments
Speaker 1: and these situations, I know for a fact, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just I'm gonna go to gym, I'm just not
Speaker 1: gonna like this ship gonna be bad. You know, you
Speaker 1: know you had that dark cloud over your head. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. The show. I ain't gonna laughing. And
Speaker 1: I was saying in my head, like, man, I can't
Speaker 1: keep on just ignoring my blessing for real like nigger
Speaker 1: catching blessing every day, every single day, like every single day,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, hell, all this sho don't work
Speaker 1: like that. This ship chance, this ship ain't changed because
Speaker 1: I ain't fenna be just keep coming outside and feeling
Speaker 1: like I'm the lucky one. Like I'm just not going
Speaker 1: to jail or getting shot. No ship because I'm lucky. Damn.
Speaker 1: What's some ship that when you sit by yourself, you
Speaker 1: just get depressed about like, um, thinking about my little
Speaker 1: brother though, right go that right now. He passed away
Speaker 1: in January. January. I'll be thinking about him a lot
Speaker 1: because that ship wasn't really for him. I ain't a
Speaker 1: lot Like sometimes I'll be feeling like a nigga did
Speaker 1: something to him just to hurt me. Yeah, that should
Speaker 1: be like fucking me up a lot. Yeah, ready, that'd
Speaker 1: be the most ship though, you know what I'm ship
Speaker 1: how shaking? I don't know. I was drinking a lot.
Speaker 1: I went into like a slump, like a real like
Speaker 1: just emotional slump, just drinking all day. And they're going
Speaker 1: to the studio drink and drink and drink and drinking
Speaker 1: because like I can't smoke no more. And that's what
Speaker 1: I That's what I do. I'm a smoker. So it's
Speaker 1: like I just felt like I needed some stuff and
Speaker 1: to like balance because I'm angry. You know how you
Speaker 1: go through some shing and you'd be like everything just
Speaker 1: makes you think about it, like Nigga smile and laugh
Speaker 1: having fun. You like, what the funk I'm having phone?
Speaker 1: You know that's fun? Up when you gotta think like that,
Speaker 1: like you can't even really smile and enjoy yourself because
Speaker 1: you're like, what I got to smile about? And I
Speaker 1: got everything and to smile about. Nigga really blessed, you know,
Speaker 1: So just thinking about that, should I have to like
Speaker 1: lead a house three four in the morning, go right,
Speaker 1: just to get that shot out of me? Because like,
Speaker 1: you know, being around my girls, like she understands, but
Speaker 1: as a man, like I just feel like as a man, bro,
Speaker 1: you can't really even complain about and that's that's not
Speaker 1: good either, Like you can't really complain about your situation
Speaker 1: or complain about being stressed out, because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I feel like, don't nobody really like
Speaker 1: you the man? You know you're supposed to be stress
Speaker 1: you out? You gotta let it O gotta let it out.
Speaker 1: I do that. I feel like I do that, and
Speaker 1: I grieve on my own time because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, she and my bills ain't gonna stop coming.
Speaker 1: My kid ain't gonna stop crying when you need milk,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My girl ain't gonna stop
Speaker 1: wanting attention and affection and ship like that. But like
Speaker 1: how you're gonna be able to get her at if
Speaker 1: you can't even get to yourself, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: get anybody there. So I just feel like I got
Speaker 1: to isolate myself to get that ship out and then
Speaker 1: come back and be the man I'm supposed to be,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But that was probably like
Speaker 1: one of my biggest heartbreaks for real though, Like even
Speaker 1: being in the streets, I then lost a lot of
Speaker 1: ship bro a lot that felt a lot of pain.
Speaker 1: But just that right there just made me feel like, damn,
Speaker 1: how important is like to have a right female? Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's super important for show because you know, you know,
Speaker 1: big broke, because it's like a woman don't really understand because,
Speaker 1: like I said, you're not gonna tell them everything. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna tell him that when you leave this house,
Speaker 1: you gotta go swell with sharks, and you gotta go
Speaker 1: broke all these bad deals and go hang around niggers.
Speaker 1: They're really like, love you, but don't love you for really.
Speaker 1: You gotta come back home. You want to feel peace.
Speaker 1: You want to steal your woman being there for you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got that. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I definitely got that. And it's important to
Speaker 1: play a big part of that. Make you want to
Speaker 1: go out and hustle so you can just bring it
Speaker 1: right back to hook, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: a lot of times women don't really understand that you
Speaker 1: gotta do that, so you gotta tell them a little bit.
Speaker 1: So you gotta tell them what you're up against when
Speaker 1: you leave a house. But just if they're not nurturing
Speaker 1: on their own, they had never really get it, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, No matter what you tell
Speaker 1: or how much you try to think, for you getting
Speaker 1: the question, I got a question didn't even answer. She's
Speaker 1: like if she ain't really got it, it's nothing you
Speaker 1: could do to tell her to make her want to.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, make you feel good when
Speaker 1: you get home. She just gotta want to be that
Speaker 1: person for you important though. I ain't gonna lie though.
Speaker 1: It's like, and that's so funny you're saying that just
Speaker 1: being around, Like, yeah, that's that's my girl. We you know,
Speaker 1: we affectionate, but it's like we are you talk ship
Speaker 1: were cool same way, Like growing in the house with
Speaker 1: your sister like that for real. So it's like, so
Speaker 1: with having a girl and with also having like a
Speaker 1: child with somebody else that you used to be involved
Speaker 1: in prior to your current relationship, how do you balance
Speaker 1: like the relationship between your current girlfriend and your child's mother,
Speaker 1: Like what advice would you give to niggas, like as
Speaker 1: to how to be able to bring a happy medium
Speaker 1: to the middle and make everybody get along. For the
Speaker 1: most part, you just gotta be the man. You know.
Speaker 1: You can't take nothing personal, especially like women emotions, because
Speaker 1: women gonna be like like ocean, women gonna say what
Speaker 1: they feel and a man gonna say what you mean?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like you gotta
Speaker 1: think about that. Like, even when you emotionally want to
Speaker 1: say something, you gotta take a step back think about
Speaker 1: it like, no, hell no, it's cool. You ain't wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't vault you for how you feel, to fault
Speaker 1: you for how you feel. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the game, it's all about ship, being a family for real.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, regardless of the fact, regardless
Speaker 1: if I'm with my baby mama not, that's still my
Speaker 1: family because that's my son mama. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In the family i'm building, it's my family because it's
Speaker 1: the family I'm building, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's all about just
Speaker 1: being a family. And I feel like if you're if
Speaker 1: you're a real nigg and you can do right by
Speaker 1: your kids, it's nothing no woman gonna be able to
Speaker 1: do a safe for real. They're gonna like unless you're
Speaker 1: playing with the emotions, you're still as you're transparent about everything,
Speaker 1: really them, you can't funk them. You can't play with
Speaker 1: the emotions at all, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: you just gotta do right by your kids though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it ain't a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: You're a growth. It ain't got to be no personal
Speaker 1: relationship or nothing like that. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if you're gonna stand on your job and
Speaker 1: your business as a man to take care of your kids,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna never do now you that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like, all right, we could
Speaker 1: be friends, and we don't got to be friends. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's my job and
Speaker 1: I'm just do it to you know, I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: best of my ability, and it shouldn't really be no
Speaker 1: drama after that. For real, how hard how hard it
Speaker 1: being you're just like a young nig in this ship
Speaker 1: and to get the respect that you're trying to get,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, How hard is that? That's
Speaker 1: probably the toughest ship. For real, that's the toughest part
Speaker 1: because it's like right now in the world we live in,
Speaker 1: people respect like look, they respect look money and same
Speaker 1: actual over like over actual respect. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that, I feel like being a real nigga, you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna never really get the respect that you deserve
Speaker 1: with the respect that you feel you need because it
Speaker 1: ain't a lot of people like that that's gonna understand
Speaker 1: the way you're moving and gonna get respect youself being
Speaker 1: solid because niggas ain't solid and you know that, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. How do a nigga void
Speaker 1: like being in the in the in the jury competition
Speaker 1: like nigga's buy what they want to buy? But you
Speaker 1: know sometimes when a new watch come again, got it
Speaker 1: exactly if you do? How do a nigga void that
Speaker 1: type ship? You gotta like see you gotta avoid that
Speaker 1: just back, like you gotta just be solid, like ain't
Speaker 1: no competition for real. You gotta have your own style
Speaker 1: and not be no competition because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's it depends on what type of nigga
Speaker 1: you is. I know, I come from literally nothing like
Speaker 1: I'm from the real lie trenches. I'm a real street nigga.
Speaker 1: I ain't even probaly supposed to be here for real,
Speaker 1: but I'm supposed to be here because I worked to
Speaker 1: be here so and ruined my man. I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be in it, but what I was up against, I
Speaker 1: ain't supposed to be here. So when you think about
Speaker 1: ship like that, it's like, who is to tell me
Speaker 1: that I ain't winning? Because I ain't got this watch
Speaker 1: or this cop. My mamma got a million dollar house.
Speaker 1: I got a multimillion dollar house. I get six cars.
Speaker 1: Say I watch this tend million change. Like how they're
Speaker 1: gonna tell me that I ain't winning because I ain't
Speaker 1: got the same amount of ship he got. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you got this, this is what you
Speaker 1: here in the music because that ship, like nigga saying
Speaker 1: that ship, that's real ship. It is real ship. Because
Speaker 1: it's like nigga, look at you like, oh, you ain't
Speaker 1: doing this. You ain't doing that because you ain't this way,
Speaker 1: and the nigga tell you that that ain't got none
Speaker 1: of this ship. You know what I'm saying, Like nigga,
Speaker 1: who got everything and you're still a real nigger, but
Speaker 1: you got everything. You're not gonna look at the nigga
Speaker 1: like I don't know. I can't fun with him because
Speaker 1: he ain't got what I got. Sometimes you just need
Speaker 1: to get around certain people to position yourself to have.
Speaker 1: Like everybody got their own time. It might take you
Speaker 1: five teen years to be able to afford whatever you want,
Speaker 1: but at least I go forward some ship, I go
Speaker 1: do what I want to do. When I want to
Speaker 1: do it. You know what I'm saying. It shi a
Speaker 1: real competition though, like a nigga look at you like
Speaker 1: you ain't that nigga, or they ain't gonna respect you
Speaker 1: because you ain't gonna do this this then the third
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's like, shoot, all I did was keep
Speaker 1: it solid. I didn't took care of myself, my mama,
Speaker 1: all my my homies in position to go in like
Speaker 1: I ain't the only one with no watch. All my
Speaker 1: niggas got watches, change cars, all this ship, you know,
Speaker 1: so I could go have every other paddock richer meal.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's all it's
Speaker 1: three four other millionaires with me right now that could
Speaker 1: pick the tablet right now and pay for this ship.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times people like they want to
Speaker 1: position their selves higher than their position other people. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I ain't never really been one
Speaker 1: of the people, you know, And I think that's why
Speaker 1: I just it take me longer and take people longer
Speaker 1: to get up on my ship, and they're like, funk
Speaker 1: with it, because I ain't trying to make you funk
Speaker 1: with it. You know what I'm saying, it's just this
Speaker 1: ship for who. What's fun? So like if you had
Speaker 1: to pick yeah, you know that don't sell itself? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. Just chill past this ship out
Speaker 1: the Who. It's fold and they're gonna come back for
Speaker 1: They're gonna advertise it for you. But if you had
Speaker 1: to pick like five people to go on the Chicago
Speaker 1: rap rushmore, who would they be? Um for Chicago to
Speaker 1: be Social? Juice World, Polo and myself the old name
Speaker 1: I do, I do. I ain't gonna lie. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's what we're doing now, it's a little different,
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna it is it is it is.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. But see I have to do
Speaker 1: too because if I did another one straight over. I
Speaker 1: just feel like I feel like the wave and what
Speaker 1: we're doing for like music in Chicago different. Man, Like
Speaker 1: Nigga's like, I ain't trying to knock nobody or no
Speaker 1: none of the old heads. But Nigga's just respecting this
Speaker 1: ship a lot a lot more right now, what we're doing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that, I just know that
Speaker 1: because I love hip hop, I always like it was
Speaker 1: a young nigger in the mix. I've been like outside
Speaker 1: ten twelve years old, Like I was always somebody like
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood all through the East Side, so I
Speaker 1: was able to like see this ship for myself. Like
Speaker 1: you know, so I didn't seen Kayanne person when I
Speaker 1: was a kid. I hadn't seen bumped Ja in person
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Twister, like he really, like
Speaker 1: know my uncle the reason why even start rapping in
Speaker 1: the first place. You know, my uncle passed away. His
Speaker 1: name is kay Tone, but Twister know him personally, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, And like the aura everything
Speaker 1: was different, Like I ain't gonna I've never really been
Speaker 1: starstruck seeing no rapper in Chicago until I've seen Bump Jake.
Speaker 1: How about when I was leaving school one time, like
Speaker 1: he hopped out and just stay movement and what they
Speaker 1: was doing. I don't know, maybe just being a street nigger.
Speaker 1: He ain't really like he was just I feel like
Speaker 1: bump he out, he don't about you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he out, he hustling, bump doing him. Uh. But like
Speaker 1: just when I've seen when I was a kid, that
Speaker 1: ship just I ain't never really been stopped struck for real,
Speaker 1: and then I've seen yeah again. I was like, stop
Speaker 1: struggle a little bit, and your head said something to
Speaker 1: me like, man, you gotta stop letting the nigga steal
Speaker 1: your staff. And I'm like, damn, I don't even think
Speaker 1: he knew who I was feeling me, but he knew
Speaker 1: who I was, you know what I'm saying, But I
Speaker 1: just feel like music right now in Chicago, we could
Speaker 1: really do some way different than it's ever been done
Speaker 1: if we just come together, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We gotta come together, Like how y'all doing out here?
Speaker 1: But what do you think the process of it is?
Speaker 1: Just leaving all of all the bush it alone? Man,
Speaker 1: so much street ship in Chicago or like niggas would
Speaker 1: be cool, but you ain't be as cool as you
Speaker 1: want to be because you know a nigga or yo,
Speaker 1: y'all cousins into it, Like my cousin and my homie
Speaker 1: could possibly potentially be in the same room, and I
Speaker 1: know these niggas going so they see each other, gonna
Speaker 1: try to kill each other no matter if I'm here,
Speaker 1: who he hears she here? They here? Like we gotta
Speaker 1: do like position niggas well, like it ain't even worked it,
Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day on Blood Get Ship,
Speaker 1: I know for show like that ships, it's unforgivable, as
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's unforgivable. And I was
Speaker 1: like that. I was the same nigga. But when you
Speaker 1: got kids and you got five ten millions into your account,
Speaker 1: you ain't finished. Just go shoot a nigga broad day,
Speaker 1: Like right now, You're not going that no matter how
Speaker 1: you feel, how angry, how much you got about that.
Speaker 1: So you gotta put niggas in position. You gotta how
Speaker 1: opportunity with niggas is really getting money and they don't
Speaker 1: even got like that mentality. What I ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to lose, you know, I don't gonna how angry is
Speaker 1: how much you're a real street nigga and the killer
Speaker 1: for show, they're gonna think twice before they just go
Speaker 1: put theirselves in the line of fire if you actually
Speaker 1: got something going on for yourself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we can't be selfish. We gotta really, like everybody
Speaker 1: who got some type of money, opportunity resources, put that
Speaker 1: ship back in Chicago so we could get some money
Speaker 1: flowing out here Like that's the difference between Chicago and Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Niggas getting money and nigga ain't even gotta wrap. You
Speaker 1: ain't never heard of wrap from this nigga. He got
Speaker 1: every change, every watch you got called all this ship
Speaker 1: because niggas is getting money out there. That's what they
Speaker 1: focused on. Money, Like nigga Chicago, wake up. Just want
Speaker 1: to kill and don't want to get no money. We
Speaker 1: gotta make a nigga not want to do nothing but
Speaker 1: get some money. Like when the niggas feel money though,
Speaker 1: and they see what to do for you, that's what
Speaker 1: they're donna want to do. How big you think? What
Speaker 1: what part do you think? The music playing that ship
Speaker 1: well and played a big part of it because growing
Speaker 1: up in our way we're here in Chicago was so
Speaker 1: like big and there was so many niggas wrapping and
Speaker 1: not understanding what they're doing. Like you here, niggas, they
Speaker 1: came up solid. That was real life, real niggas. That
Speaker 1: was rapping and living what they're saying. But it's a
Speaker 1: lot of ship. Like what we did with rapping hat
Speaker 1: transferred to other places and ship like that. People rapping
Speaker 1: about ship that they really not ain't living, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So rap played a big part in
Speaker 1: it because how we came up. Nigga's talking about this
Speaker 1: niggahood and this nigga did nigg and this, this, this
Speaker 1: and the third. But it's like you don't even really
Speaker 1: feel like that, you know what I'm saying, Like a
Speaker 1: lot of times and then it just sounds good, like
Speaker 1: a nigga see you, and you will see a nigga
Speaker 1: you on tour with, or nigga you rapping about and
Speaker 1: your eyes just telling nigga you skared. So now they're
Speaker 1: gonna really try what I'm saying, they're gonna eat you
Speaker 1: because you're not even really like that. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, they don't make you cool or
Speaker 1: not cool. If a nigga, no the rap rap about
Speaker 1: something that make you cool that you really you think
Speaker 1: that should have worked with what's going on. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, certain it's like
Speaker 1: it's a respect thing, you know what I'm saying. Certain nigga,
Speaker 1: like a real nigga. Like if I see a nigga,
Speaker 1: niggas wrapped about me all the time, and I'll be
Speaker 1: seeing niggas but I ain't rap about you. You said
Speaker 1: something about me, so I see you and you're supposed
Speaker 1: to try me immediately, and I want you to for real,
Speaker 1: but you're not, though you know you're not. I'm saying
Speaker 1: somebody to go rap about just say being a kid,
Speaker 1: go rap about God damn school, yeah or anything. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll work because it's a lot of people that go
Speaker 1: to school. But it's but and the ain't not a
Speaker 1: lot of wrappers that ain't nobody did it though for real, Like,
Speaker 1: a't nobody there that ship for real, ain't not in
Speaker 1: in the city for real. Like it will work to
Speaker 1: a certain extent, but I feel like, ain't nobody gonna
Speaker 1: coast it because everybody think they're supposed to wrap about
Speaker 1: some other ship that they're not really living. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day that it ain't doing nothing
Speaker 1: but a get niggs killed for real, ain't doing number
Speaker 1: get nigga is killed. So it's like you could win
Speaker 1: just being like a cool, smooth, wavy nigger. But it's
Speaker 1: like what you in itfol Like, is you trying to
Speaker 1: win just being you or you're trying to be the
Speaker 1: biggest nigga about being something that you ain't. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest nigga being something you ain't. You
Speaker 1: could say that from the point of being the nigga
Speaker 1: that you said you is right. But the person that's
Speaker 1: looking at this ship's entertainment, Yeah, you're right. The person
Speaker 1: that's looking at this ship entertainment. And I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. But that go to say, this ship ain't
Speaker 1: for everybody. You got a fan words for you like,
Speaker 1: but actually work for some of these niggas will be
Speaker 1: lying it do work for something? Is that be lying?
Speaker 1: But then it's like it worked on the internet and
Speaker 1: what you think. But niggas don't be happy for real
Speaker 1: because no you But but maybe they don't be broke. No, no,
Speaker 1: they don't. Don't they don't they need me to change
Speaker 1: their life. Okay, but not now. I get what you're
Speaker 1: saying told them, and I'm not disagreeing. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is a nigga nobody and nigga could be sending his
Speaker 1: mama basement and make a hot as song saying goddamn,
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do to a nigga? Yea that ship
Speaker 1: blow up one song, change his life? Yeah, that ship
Speaker 1: changes like now he able to take care for take
Speaker 1: here his feminine ship. But you don't create a real problem,
Speaker 1: like a real problem. But nigga feels like ship. I've
Speaker 1: just been see him broke, I had this problem in
Speaker 1: his money. Didn't be broke? Yeah, with no problem. Yeah, sir,
Speaker 1: iggas don't feel like that. But then there's certain niggas
Speaker 1: that's like ship down. They when they do it, they
Speaker 1: regret even doing it because the problems that come with
Speaker 1: show for show, the problems of trouble come with it,
Speaker 1: like niggas looking for you that you don't even like.
Speaker 1: You can't even protect yourself. You gotta go isolate yourself.
Speaker 1: And then it's like nigga when they feel like that,
Speaker 1: they're go on a real slump. They don't even want
Speaker 1: to make music no more. Do nothing. Now you got
Speaker 1: all these bills and everybody depending on you, and you
Speaker 1: ain't got no other way to make no money because
Speaker 1: you don't even want to make You don't want to
Speaker 1: come out side, you want to go to the studio.
Speaker 1: You don wanta do no shows because nigga's on your west.
Speaker 1: So but everybody that bit your ass ship and go
Speaker 1: all the way with it. Yeah, the well though, and
Speaker 1: the nigger't do that, I respect them more. Gonna take
Speaker 1: everything that comes with the ship that you created, saying
Speaker 1: don't start something that bit up, No, don't start nothing.
Speaker 1: Then just like you created this problem for all these niggas,
Speaker 1: you've got niggas actually killing each other, and now you
Speaker 1: know where to be found, you know where to be
Speaker 1: found at all, you know what I'm saying, Or it
Speaker 1: ain't even gotta be nothing to do with like being
Speaker 1: in the mix or contributing to the war. Try to
Speaker 1: clear that ship up before I get too messy and
Speaker 1: niggers really started dying and too much blood gets spit. Well,
Speaker 1: you can't come back from it. Go try to clear
Speaker 1: that ship up in some way if you can, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that, And you ain't lying through
Speaker 1: the music rap music, that's just just that made it
Speaker 1: so fucked up young in general, where like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't even come back from the It's damn they impossible
Speaker 1: for real, because because if you if you if you
Speaker 1: say god that, if you come on an interview right
Speaker 1: there and say, well you know what till my ops
Speaker 1: ain't got no problem. Your family were like, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you're straight, what do you do a delemma law? It
Speaker 1: is you could really want to in your heart feel
Speaker 1: like I want to change, but I'm really sick of
Speaker 1: this ship. But then you lose your fans. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you do? I think you get other fans. Thought,
Speaker 1: I think you get other fans. You can get other
Speaker 1: fans and everybody. But you ain't gonna You're gonna as
Speaker 1: big as you probably would lose nothing, nobody trying to nothing.
Speaker 1: But then again, it's like you just said, you gotta
Speaker 1: take it. No, don't forget what you say. Make one point.
Speaker 1: You gotta take anything that come with this ship. Even
Speaker 1: if like I didn't change my I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: start no ship today. But it's like if you got
Speaker 1: a problem with me for what happened five teen years ago,
Speaker 1: I just gotta take what come with that. It is
Speaker 1: what it is, and that never goes away. People got
Speaker 1: problem with you that you don't even know. People got problems.
Speaker 1: People wake up and make you their problem. Mother, wake
Speaker 1: up and yeah, that nigga hurt was still right here
Speaker 1: if he if he picked up the phone, I'll beat this. Well,
Speaker 1: I do that. But that's why you gotta just stay
Speaker 1: aggressive and stay like what you want because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're gonna have them type of problems.
Speaker 1: So it's like I can't just say fucking I don't
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with nothing, no more like I
Speaker 1: don't want no trouble. But it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it if it comes to me. I
Speaker 1: got to ship. I ain't got no choice. And what
Speaker 1: do how do you win do it? How do this ship?
Speaker 1: Like one of the brands I respect, I was for
Speaker 1: to say Snoop Dogg bro because he came from gangster
Speaker 1: ship Grow grow here. He was a tour with oh
Speaker 1: dead in jail. He supposed to be able to do
Speaker 1: this the whole ship. It's only gonna be hand for
Speaker 1: the niggas. Maybe four five niggas. That's the last mean
Speaker 1: all that ain't got no man, I got niggas. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm trying when he ain't got to worry
Speaker 1: about all that dumb ship. This is it's about the younger.
Speaker 1: How did they get turned in on the niggas? Possible?
Speaker 1: We gotta have to try to live as long as impossible,
Speaker 1: and it is impossible for real because he's not lying though.
Speaker 1: No matter what even if you guys like certain niggas
Speaker 1: that's so deep in the streets. That's really that's on
Speaker 1: some real nigga shipped too and getting money now, like
Speaker 1: they even though it's automatic smoke when we see each other,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But niggas respect you just
Speaker 1: because of who you is and what you did. Like
Speaker 1: and I feel like I got that in Chicago, Like
Speaker 1: a nigga respect me for showing nigger gonna see me,
Speaker 1: and damn they're like not out of fear nothing, just
Speaker 1: think twice before they even go act off imposts and
Speaker 1: try to do something to me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I built that kind of respect for myself. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like Big Bro just said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a nigga just wake up mad at
Speaker 1: the world for no reason. They just want to do
Speaker 1: something to you. Funk. All that on't respect nothing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go crash out right then. So here is almost
Speaker 1: impossible to avoid that. But the first step is to
Speaker 1: move We agree that hell yeah, that's what I did,
Speaker 1: but that don't work for everybody, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like because exactly brought in like like He's like this,
Speaker 1: just like he's family here. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Whatever you go, it's feminine us exactly. But when you
Speaker 1: coming to you ain't making no noise how you're gonna move.
Speaker 1: You're gonna move for what And just had the same
Speaker 1: problems that you're here in Chicago. You better all just
Speaker 1: standing from where you're from. And he just hit it
Speaker 1: right on the head like I moved because I was
Speaker 1: on the mission, while like I'm just finished, separate myself
Speaker 1: from this right here and just come out here and
Speaker 1: just focus on going to the studio, going to the career.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I know I
Speaker 1: still got love in l A because I funk with
Speaker 1: niggas that love and l A you know what I'm saying, disrespected,
Speaker 1: And I know I got love in Atlanta because I
Speaker 1: I funk with nigga's the same way. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been going to l Asis sixteen, seventeen years old, eighteen
Speaker 1: coming right back going in Atlanta the same way. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm so. I met south Side when I
Speaker 1: was seventeen years old, had been my brother, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I've been coming out here fucking
Speaker 1: with with Brother and fucking with Savage now for them
Speaker 1: in three or four years now you feel me. So
Speaker 1: it's like I just you gotta know what you're up
Speaker 1: against at the end of the day. Like you could
Speaker 1: go move to l A and then I'll even do
Speaker 1: is have to be for a bunch of l A
Speaker 1: niggers ain't moving the right way. You know. I didn't
Speaker 1: take the same energy with you. No, you didn't take
Speaker 1: the same energy that you can't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta show love at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: That's what it's about, showing love. But I don't know
Speaker 1: it just gotta be in you like you always just
Speaker 1: gotta be like all the energy around you just gotta
Speaker 1: be like funk with him, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like just it just gotta be on you that you
Speaker 1: gotta be in you for really, you just gotta feel it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the solution, No, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: Actually got me thinking too though, because how you how
Speaker 1: you just explained it. It really just let me know
Speaker 1: the ship bigger than one person, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'll be feeling like I could make a difference. But
Speaker 1: then just talking ahead that's why I wanted to come.
Speaker 1: But keep doing that though, yeah he can, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: definitely keep doing it. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's like, that's why you gotta have a conversation with
Speaker 1: like real niggas who understanding that thing outside the box,
Speaker 1: because I ain't never really think about ship the way
Speaker 1: Big Broth placing it right now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it should be damned impossible for real. So it's like,
Speaker 1: take an army to make this ship better, and money
Speaker 1: don't solve it. Hell no worse, make it worse for sure,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get into the wrong nigga. And when
Speaker 1: you create a movement, even bro this ship just so
Speaker 1: because you can create a movement and try to goddamn
Speaker 1: just just like anything else, uh Mar Luther King create
Speaker 1: the movement, then the movement hating at you the face him.
Speaker 1: We've been if we create we all ship, we went
Speaker 1: don't with bank with everybody with who it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a nigger. So were mad that g Herbal is the
Speaker 1: face of this. Yeah he's doing a great job about movement.
Speaker 1: He cann be doing a great job at this ship.
Speaker 1: He'd be like why he got all the weight, He
Speaker 1: just chosen one and then that could turn into real
Speaker 1: not to get because he gonna poison tell other niggers
Speaker 1: to feel how he feels, and that once it's written,
Speaker 1: when it's poisoned internal, it's like it's damn impossible to
Speaker 1: fix that ship too. He's not lying though, like not
Speaker 1: to get to preaching that hundreds of years to get
Speaker 1: all the hate, Like yeah, you got an outlet, that's what.
Speaker 1: So as he said that that was my first only
Speaker 1: ship I could think of, you got, you got, you
Speaker 1: gotta start hit the weeding ship. Let's go coming up.
Speaker 1: No listen, but even but even even Snoop said, Brian
Speaker 1: never have a murder case till I made murder was
Speaker 1: the Hey. So getting back to some big faceship manifest
Speaker 1: that speaking that ship, you manifesting and you're creating that energy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's said that. He said that ship
Speaker 1: and then the Greatest Club. So it's like you manifest
Speaker 1: that ship. Start talking about some money and some women
Speaker 1: and some mother you know what I'm saying, Like, no,
Speaker 1: you ain't laying though, Nigga definitely be like nigga, Nigga
Speaker 1: man in his mouth that ship when you're speaking about
Speaker 1: certain ships. Yea, yeah, that song is very powerful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of chat going around about collaborations. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I saw some online by a little Baby
Speaker 1: Polo G like those are manifested become a reality, you think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they should for Shore, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: especially Baby, especially me and Baby. Ship that's long overdue. Bro,
Speaker 1: I pretty much started together, right Yeah. Yeah, Um, for Shore,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna uh and ship. I think Baby like
Speaker 1: he won't to Wrap for real. But it's like Nigga
Speaker 1: just making so much money doing other ship, he ain't
Speaker 1: really driven about Wrap, you know what saying, Like they
Speaker 1: you gotta really just motivate him to get in the
Speaker 1: studio and go lock in for a month two months
Speaker 1: and just about him knowing how to rap and and
Speaker 1: loving that ship because that's what he that's the reason
Speaker 1: he even in the industry in the first place. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna fall back a little with it like that,
Speaker 1: Like that's what I need to do. Just go I
Speaker 1: had nothing to do. Just go lock in with Bro,
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna make some hard ass ship
Speaker 1: for real. But that nigga and not really thinking about
Speaker 1: rap because ship he's making so much money. Ship bro,
Speaker 1: he on some mobile ship right now. N I ain't
Speaker 1: even thinking about wrap it all for real? Who need
Speaker 1: to coming out of Chicago at Chicago? Um? I funk
Speaker 1: with with Flat and Ari Hard um DCG going crazy
Speaker 1: Maler brother forty, he going crazy from my hood A
Speaker 1: small little brother. Um he turned shot the next for show.
Speaker 1: Mala cousin a little what he definitely got a crazy
Speaker 1: little move Mala cousin he Um, he just got out
Speaker 1: of jail. He just be the quadruple murder. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: just got out of that ship. Know a fan? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How that ship go? Bro? Like you got that? Like
Speaker 1: he just beat a tuw This ship different. That's crazy
Speaker 1: for real though, Like that ship right there just take
Speaker 1: you over the top. Some negative, funked up ash like
Speaker 1: damn just a jail for murder pipe Yeah exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: They seeing DONA even labels look at it like they
Speaker 1: don't vote them to ask you what's the story? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the story? Like, what's the game? Like what we're
Speaker 1: selling exactly every time what we said, Like I'm a
Speaker 1: passionate ropper, ain't trying to hit it. But you ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing, you ain't lying, and that's I think that's
Speaker 1: what really takes you over the top. Door like this
Speaker 1: um man, it's his nigger name name seven five seven
Speaker 1: month o. He from the rack too, though I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna funk with him. It's music hard. I funk with
Speaker 1: short um he's going crazy. And let me see who
Speaker 1: else going crazy? Direct man, damn it some other little
Speaker 1: shortiest too. I can't even think them though right now,
Speaker 1: Like I forgot their name, but they're going crazy. Know
Speaker 1: I can't anything. Um be hell yeah. LaMelo three six
Speaker 1: five she from the hood. LaMelo, she from my hood
Speaker 1: to a girl wrap her ass off. I ain't gonna last.
Speaker 1: She ross fun, I really need. I'm gonna just do
Speaker 1: some ship with her just because because she's going to
Speaker 1: crazy and she's from my hood, so I gotta do
Speaker 1: some ship with her. Pipe up for show she was doing,
Speaker 1: like going to the hood club in Chicago doing it
Speaker 1: like like if you had a concert. I ain't gonna lie,
Speaker 1: you know, it's so crazy, Like I just hit my hope.
Speaker 1: My DJ. It is my brother, my real DJ, and
Speaker 1: my producer. He just um booked me to do some
Speaker 1: ship in Chicago for the fourth and everybody telling me like,
Speaker 1: don't go, don't go, and ain't worth it, like everybody
Speaker 1: like every every day, somebody takes me, don't go to
Speaker 1: that ship. Man funk that ship, and I wanted me
Speaker 1: to go. But I was in Chicago on the fourth.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just popping this ship real quick, you know.
Speaker 1: But it's just me. I think different because I don't
Speaker 1: know I'll be want to show love. That's where I
Speaker 1: come from, So I feel like I gotta move a
Speaker 1: certain way. Don't get me wrong, you know what. I
Speaker 1: definitely gotta calculate my steps. But if I can't do that,
Speaker 1: what I'm doing for I'm out here trying to motivate
Speaker 1: the trenches and I don't want to go. I can't go.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. So it's like I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: put myself in the lane of fire, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: even thinking about that, you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: always thinking about the the worst possible outcome. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm prepared for what I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about it. I know it's possible. Every time I walk
Speaker 1: into environment, I'm thinking about that. For show, but I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about what I'm gonna do to get home, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get home. I'm going home, so hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I still went, though I ain't gonna I just want
Speaker 1: this because I wanted to feel it. It was cool.
Speaker 1: I ain't like that ship was treacherous though. Soon as
Speaker 1: I walked in, I just felt like, oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: when I do ship like that, I'd be showing love,
Speaker 1: but I'd be in that bitch mug and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to see everything that's going on, everything in the crowd.
Speaker 1: I want to see your energy. I want to see
Speaker 1: if you look at me like I'm looking at you
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and I'm gonna show love,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I don't know. And then
Speaker 1: I thought about it, like if I got to do that,
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't even be at that ship for real,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I think about it different,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I felt a little hell yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: but I just know the circumstances, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So even though I went, I just went just because
Speaker 1: I wanted them to look. I feel like, oh it hurt,
Speaker 1: gonna still come back to the city, and show love.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day is certain shot.
Speaker 1: I just gotta do it right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like certain like ship like that. I probably can't go
Speaker 1: to no ship like that no more because it's too
Speaker 1: out of outgrown it that I don't need to do
Speaker 1: that no more. But at least I did it just
Speaker 1: so you know, you can't see I ain't do it.
Speaker 1: You can't say so next time if I get booked
Speaker 1: to Chicago, I gotta a book. That's the bigger ship.
Speaker 1: I can't do that no more, you know, because if
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to do that and be
Speaker 1: on pointing mug niggas, I don't even need to goergy
Speaker 1: and I I don't even be thinking like when I
Speaker 1: go do other ship in the other clubs, I ain't
Speaker 1: going there like that. But then she cordo on mug
Speaker 1: and I just want to know, like, no, I'm still
Speaker 1: like the same niggas at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: But I don't even want to have to do that
Speaker 1: for real because that energy, if I got to come
Speaker 1: in there with that energy, I don't need that ship
Speaker 1: gonna possibly happen. You know what I'm saying that it
Speaker 1: will possibly happen just because I'm not mugg because I
Speaker 1: wanted nigger to feel like I'm tough on mugging, because
Speaker 1: I'm really on point trying to be aware of months
Speaker 1: around it. You know what I'm saying that niggas get
Speaker 1: mad for anything your music. Come on, you could be
Speaker 1: wrapping your ship and feel like you're wrapping and that
Speaker 1: didn't happened. Like now, I didn't been in concerts and
Speaker 1: seeing niggas looking like in previous concerts and ship like
Speaker 1: seeing niggas looking because I'm seeing certain words, and I
Speaker 1: guess they want to feel like I really mean it
Speaker 1: or feel like I'm talking to them with some ship,
Speaker 1: and I like, idn't really seeing that, like damn, And
Speaker 1: at certain times I didn't really look mug right back
Speaker 1: at niggas and I felt like I'm wrapping time, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta stop doing that. I can't even
Speaker 1: like now, I don't even pay attending to the crowd.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. You could have did anything
Speaker 1: here but rap what you would have did, Oh, I
Speaker 1: would have went to hoop. I would have tried to
Speaker 1: play D one basketball and then to try to go
Speaker 1: to the league. Man, I ain't gonnallowed the streets. If
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have really like stared over to the streets
Speaker 1: and I really dedicated myself to basketball all four years
Speaker 1: of high school, I would have probably I could have
Speaker 1: probably did something. But I rapped, Okay, after you chose rapping,
Speaker 1: and if that ship would have became lucrative for you
Speaker 1: what you did, shit, probably I would have did. I
Speaker 1: would have definitely funked around and there, like real estate.
Speaker 1: Just stay in Chicago, because my daddy do real estate,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I would have learned
Speaker 1: that under him, you know, because if I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: just been in the streets and just saying fun it
Speaker 1: for real, like I ain't gonna allowers, so like just
Speaker 1: caught up in my neighborhood and ship going on around. Now,
Speaker 1: if I would have choose the good rape, I would
Speaker 1: have did real estate. But if I would have stayed me,
Speaker 1: I always just been in the hood, just thugging the
Speaker 1: whole time, you know what I'm saying. Probably just had
Speaker 1: a hundred thousands some ship like that, been one of them,
Speaker 1: next a couple hundred thousands in my hood and just
Speaker 1: out there just taking whatever come with that ship. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. If rap ain't working, I was
Speaker 1: just still stuck in my old ways and ain't thinking
Speaker 1: no positive way to make it out. That ship still
Speaker 1: be in the streets for real. You know a moment
Speaker 1: where you feel like man, this hell yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what really made me like focus on't just wrap
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like some ship happn't and
Speaker 1: like I said, motherfucker thing gotten the chase or some
Speaker 1: crazy ship like that, and niggas wind up shooting at
Speaker 1: me all type of ship. I'm like, man, funk this ship,
Speaker 1: well that ship over. You know what I'm I was
Speaker 1: making money off music already, you know, so I'm like,
Speaker 1: well as I'm even what I'm saying and make you
Speaker 1: say funk wrapped like uh not for real? Like hell no,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie like it did those certain like
Speaker 1: cause I ain't gonna like want like getting frustrated with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you will get frustrated with some ship when you see,
Speaker 1: like like you said earlier, like nigga don't really get
Speaker 1: your respect, you feel like you deserve you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's just the internet, I think with
Speaker 1: the Internet when you get tricked off of paying and
Speaker 1: chied to the Internet, and what the fans say that
Speaker 1: to make you be like man, because I didn't say that,
Speaker 1: but photo like, man, funk this ship. I ain't even
Speaker 1: gonna keep on trying to prove myself and doing this ship.
Speaker 1: But it's like just being a real nigger. Who are
Speaker 1: you proving yourself too? At the end of the day
Speaker 1: like these I had to really realize, like man, these
Speaker 1: fans gonna hate you today, love you tomorrow. I didn't
Speaker 1: hate you again, you know what I'm saying. And once
Speaker 1: I figured that out, it just motivated me to want
Speaker 1: to keep rapping, you know what I'm saying. But like
Speaker 1: the industry and you feel like you ain't you gotta
Speaker 1: chase a record, feel like you gotta be bigger than
Speaker 1: a certain person, like you know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: what they try to make you do. Like even your
Speaker 1: so called fans, you would be on your own ship,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I get bored, I'll read my comments and
Speaker 1: ship like that, and the fans they would be like
Speaker 1: comparing you to other rappers and ship compare you to
Speaker 1: this person. Oh yeah, you need a song him or
Speaker 1: you need a record like this and all you're falling
Speaker 1: off that ship trash and then see it and then
Speaker 1: like if you ain't got thick skin, that should really
Speaker 1: make you want to give up. You gotta be, you
Speaker 1: gotta be like hell, no, I know, I'm are at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like I know, like you know,
Speaker 1: and like it was a time while I wasn't traveling,
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing those shows and nothing. This is before
Speaker 1: the pandemic. I had got stuck in Chicago for like
Speaker 1: ten months fighting the case. My judge and let me travel.
Speaker 1: So I probably missed like at least like three millions
Speaker 1: just shows because I couldn't go nowhere like for ten
Speaker 1: eleven months for real and big as looks. I missed rolling,
Speaker 1: all the rolling alouds, all that ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I was like I was making music,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't dropping it because my ship wasn't like
Speaker 1: my brand wasn't where I needed to be anywhere. I
Speaker 1: feel like my ship would have flopped. The fall just
Speaker 1: dropped in the middle of that. So I had to
Speaker 1: overcome that ship. And while I'm overcoming it, that was
Speaker 1: when I'm reading the comments and seeing like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this nigga falling off that ain't there. You can't do ship.
Speaker 1: So that ship kind of did had me like wanted
Speaker 1: to give up for real, and like I'm like I
Speaker 1: can't though, so I just kept going the studio. This
Speaker 1: is right before PTSD dropped. That's what I was working on.
Speaker 1: That ship was like tough for me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, cause I wasn't making no money on
Speaker 1: the road. All I had was my ascillary money. So
Speaker 1: if I wasn't really like independent of my business wasn't
Speaker 1: set up the way it was, I would have been
Speaker 1: fucked up for real. Like I wouldn't have been really
Speaker 1: seeing no money, you know what I'm saying, because a
Speaker 1: lot of times artists don't really see no money unless
Speaker 1: they're doing shows and ship like that. You know. So
Speaker 1: I was spending a lot of money just being in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, man, I I had moved out my career.
Speaker 1: All I had was my mama career, my mama house.
Speaker 1: So I was staying downtown to hotels and I'm telling myself,
Speaker 1: like I'm not baying O'Connor because I'm not getting stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to get comfortable. Hell, like often
Speaker 1: just spend all this money in hotels and say, funck it.
Speaker 1: So I'm spending a lot of money, but I ain't
Speaker 1: making no money, you know what I'm saying. I'm going
Speaker 1: to the studio and it's like I went into a
Speaker 1: real slump and I'm like, man, this ship frustrated really
Speaker 1: made me like I feel like damn, I had to
Speaker 1: question myself, Like man, this ship really for the work
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I'm saying. Just just knowing that,
Speaker 1: and like if mother really paying attention, that ship just
Speaker 1: inspired them to not give up because you would go
Speaker 1: through them slumps where you really questioning yourself and you're
Speaker 1: seeing everything else around the world moving but you and
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, man, this ship getting ugly? Is it
Speaker 1: over with from me? Am I gonna? Like? Am I
Speaker 1: really fenna be a story like one of them artists
Speaker 1: that just did this and ain't do nothing else. Um.
Speaker 1: When I actually finished my album, like when I was
Speaker 1: in the studio listening to my ship complete, and I
Speaker 1: felt like and this ship hard like I know if
Speaker 1: to when the world hear it? Like I got that
Speaker 1: confidence listening to my mute, like man, when the world
Speaker 1: hear this ship that I know they're gonna have to respect,
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to co sign it. Like my whole
Speaker 1: album when I heard and it was complete and I
Speaker 1: turned it in and I was I heard, Like right
Speaker 1: before my album dropped in February, I had one last
Speaker 1: court date and I was betting on if I was
Speaker 1: gonna have to ship go sit down for my last
Speaker 1: gun chart, if I was gonna have to sit down,
Speaker 1: or if the judgs gonna throw it out and lift
Speaker 1: my trap. So I was betting on that and I
Speaker 1: just heard like half spirits like man, I'm gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be good. When they lifted the ship,
Speaker 1: like probably the end of January, right before I dropped
Speaker 1: my ship, it just gave me a breath of fresh air,
Speaker 1: Like all right, my ship in the drip, I could
Speaker 1: move around, I could go tour. So I went straight
Speaker 1: to l A and move back out there. Already had
Speaker 1: the crib in l A. But I just when I
Speaker 1: was that ship was just sitting for like a yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I had moved went back
Speaker 1: to my carib and when I dropped my ship ship,
Speaker 1: it was like that it ain't never happened. Like it's
Speaker 1: like you know, when you go through them dark times
Speaker 1: and ship and then you get to the finish line,
Speaker 1: it just it makes you strong. I feel like that
Speaker 1: ship ain't never really happened. For it, you forget about it.
Speaker 1: It was like a breath of fresh air. So I
Speaker 1: had to, like I had to go through that to know. Like, man,
Speaker 1: it's always like at the end of the tunnel, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take whatever conde this ship now, Like
Speaker 1: whatever frustrations or whatever like adversity that come with this ship,
Speaker 1: you just gotta take it and just leaning towards it.
Speaker 1: That's what I did the whole time, just leaning towards like, man,
Speaker 1: fucking I'm gonna get through this ship. And I got
Speaker 1: through it. What's what's the biggest key you think to
Speaker 1: being successful as an independent artist, because a lot of
Speaker 1: people can kind of like, man, they and the Finnish
Speaker 1: it too hard. The money some of the keys though, Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a good internal like business, you gotta
Speaker 1: have good internal structure, like I got partnership, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm signing with Republic with Label Services and in Grus
Speaker 1: with District. You're not signed to him, but you yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I just we just partnered in Universal right now, so
Speaker 1: I feel and it's the it's the truth. You know,
Speaker 1: anybody could contest to it. Who actually know, If I
Speaker 1: didn't have a good internal business set up already, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't work for me, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: as far as my release schedule, the way I released music,
Speaker 1: the way I gotta package my ship and and have
Speaker 1: it bundled to deliver to them, because all I supposed
Speaker 1: to really do is deliver and then they just amplify
Speaker 1: that ship and make it what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: But you gotta have a good business set up internally
Speaker 1: to like make sure your ship is structured the right way.
Speaker 1: So you could go and get it's independent, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, situation, or you could go partner and
Speaker 1: have deals with like these big companies that's just gonna
Speaker 1: make your ship, you know, reach the people that are
Speaker 1: supposed to reach, you know what I'm saying. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to spend money, that's the first thing. Though.
Speaker 1: I got to spend money. Though, you gotta be willing
Speaker 1: to spend money. And no, I'm spending money for my ship.
Speaker 1: So if you're spending a couple hundred thousand dollars on
Speaker 1: marketing and you feel like, damn, I should have bought
Speaker 1: a Richard. I posted about the Richard you loss already.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta understand, like, all right, Shire,
Speaker 1: you're balling in itself. That is balling. If I'm able
Speaker 1: to go spend a million dollars, a half a million
Speaker 1: dollars whatever right then on the spot to make sure
Speaker 1: my ship, dude's supposed to do ship. You can't hear me.
Speaker 1: I ain't boss stuff. I ain't gotta have no Richard,
Speaker 1: none of that ship. You know what, I'm able to
Speaker 1: put my money right back into myself and then the
Speaker 1: profit come later. So I might spend my liquid cash,
Speaker 1: put a couple of million into my ship and then ship.
Speaker 1: Nigger just really waiting. You're making a sacrifice, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You put your money back into your
Speaker 1: ship and waiting to see what it's gonna do. And
Speaker 1: at the end of the day away like the digital
Speaker 1: ship and all this ship set up, you can actually
Speaker 1: see your analytics. You know what I'm saying, that what
Speaker 1: you projected to do and how much money you projected
Speaker 1: to make out and seeing it with my own ass.
Speaker 1: So if you believe in your ship and you know that,
Speaker 1: why not spend some money and you know you're projected
Speaker 1: to make this, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It's kind of like I on the
Speaker 1: music industry really like the streets at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if you know how to hustle a little bit,
Speaker 1: you kind of could get it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you know how to hustle and spend money on yourself,
Speaker 1: it's like investing in your trap in a sense. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When you're investing your trap ship,
Speaker 1: it's gonna blossom. You're gonna make profit, you know. So
Speaker 1: we're independent. It's just all about understanding, like you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to put in the most work. You know, you
Speaker 1: gotta pay for your own videos, you gotta pay for
Speaker 1: your own marketing, and then you could partner with you know,
Speaker 1: the label marketing or a certain marketing and merchandise companies
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But you gotta figure that out internally,
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna figure out your merch ideas your
Speaker 1: what you gotta do for your shows as far as
Speaker 1: or you know what, You gotta partner with people. When
Speaker 1: you're independent, you gotta already put the work in and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to shoot these videos. I'm gonna promote
Speaker 1: this single or I ain't gonna promote a single with all.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna turn my project in and let it
Speaker 1: do what to do. And they gotta trust to you
Speaker 1: to know, like, damn, ain't he got a single, but ship,
Speaker 1: we're gonna steal funk with it because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's gonna do this, this and this, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's a long way though. It's like
Speaker 1: you're taking the stairs. You're not taking the elevator. You're saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta grow a little by a little being an
Speaker 1: independent artist. But that's all they care about at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. As long as you're not doing
Speaker 1: this and you're doing this, you ain't got to grow
Speaker 1: this like this way, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: could just do this and they're gonna still funk with
Speaker 1: you because they're making money and you're making money and
Speaker 1: you're doing all the hard work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like you're just delivering some ship. They're gonna work,
Speaker 1: but all the hard work, you're willing to do that
Speaker 1: yourself within your team, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: with being independent, you gotta work like that. And you
Speaker 1: feel me, what's the funk? Look competent, what's the first
Speaker 1: what's the what's the but what's the what's the first
Speaker 1: team member you think you need to help? Because people
Speaker 1: artists always I need manager. I need to manage their manager.
Speaker 1: But I'll be like, the manager ain't just gonna solve
Speaker 1: your problems. If you ain't got nothing going on, they
Speaker 1: can't manage it. So I always tell people, man, get
Speaker 1: your a lawyer and the engineer first. That's me, you
Speaker 1: know But what you definitely have a lawyer automatically you
Speaker 1: have a lawyer, and that's a good setup to a
Speaker 1: lawyer engineer. And you should have a PR or publicist
Speaker 1: and and then the manager come after that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if you've got a good PR,
Speaker 1: good publicist, I feel like that's kind of like having
Speaker 1: a manager in itself. You know what I'm saying, They're
Speaker 1: gonna get you the looks that you need. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and a lot of times, like a
Speaker 1: manager is somebody who's gonna go hustle for you. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, You're gonna go hustle for you. But
Speaker 1: if you don't got the right manager that's gone get
Speaker 1: you the right looks, you just it's like you're hustling backwards.
Speaker 1: You're just getting all this ship and then you're hustling
Speaker 1: just you don't even know where you're going. And did
Speaker 1: all this ship and been in every city and made
Speaker 1: some money, but your brand ain't grown at all, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you gotta have, like I
Speaker 1: feel like, you need a publicist or a pr that's
Speaker 1: gonna get you the right looks and get you the
Speaker 1: right brand and ship, and they're gonna ask you what
Speaker 1: you look what you're trying to like accomplish within yourself
Speaker 1: and this amount of time, and when you do that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna go out and try to get it. And
Speaker 1: if they're not getting it at least you see you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. With a manager, you ain't really
Speaker 1: seeing that because they just bring you money. I got
Speaker 1: this opportunity, I got this, this this so they could
Speaker 1: be eating but your brand I growing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, especially being independent. You need that. So if
Speaker 1: there were three things that you could make sure that
Speaker 1: your son's understood about life, what would they be, Um,
Speaker 1: it will be one that ship the world crew Ain't
Speaker 1: nothing gonna come to you, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like, I'm tough on my kids a
Speaker 1: little bit, like on the internet, that might look like
Speaker 1: I'm just you know what I'm saying, But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I want my kids, especially with
Speaker 1: them being boys, they gotta have like ferociousness, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: with them, especially with them being my kids, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna get no break. And you heard them something you
Speaker 1: had this ship easy, They're gonna try to knock them
Speaker 1: right on the app So you gotta have like you
Speaker 1: gotta be prepared for that. You gotta have thick skin
Speaker 1: for that, you know what I'm saying. That's one thing too,
Speaker 1: it would be you gotta you gotta be a hard worker,
Speaker 1: like you gotta really go hustle. Because I could have
Speaker 1: all this ship and I could give it to you,
Speaker 1: but I want my kids to be able to take
Speaker 1: what I get them and another level. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's what you gotta learn that early.
Speaker 1: Like I want to be. I don't know how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it, but it's some way or all the
Speaker 1: big ship that my kids get in life, I want
Speaker 1: them to have to like work for and not necessarily
Speaker 1: work and go make money, just just like put in
Speaker 1: some kind of there's some type of effort to make
Speaker 1: me proud to want to give you this ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying That you can have a Ferrari
Speaker 1: at sixteen if you do that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if you're just working and you're not on know lazy ship,
Speaker 1: because you got it, And that's one thing that I want,
Speaker 1: like and that that scared me, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, being somebody that got money and able to
Speaker 1: do so much for their kids, like you get comfortable, really,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, and you want to
Speaker 1: give your kids the world because I worked hard for
Speaker 1: this ship. So I want to be at the spoiler.
Speaker 1: But it's like how do you It's a certain way
Speaker 1: you gotta do it, and I ain't found that balance yet,
Speaker 1: Like how do I spoil my kids without making them
Speaker 1: spoil you know what I'm saying. And uh, the last
Speaker 1: thing will be uh to respect women for sure, disrespect women, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I feel like we're doing that.
Speaker 1: If you respect women, it to just take you a
Speaker 1: long way. You know what I'm saying. That we've gotta
Speaker 1: be just just your woman. I feel like you just
Speaker 1: get blessings in life just respect the way years. So uh,
Speaker 1: definitely teach them that, you know, because nowadays like shep
Speaker 1: kids just ain't being gonna respect pet you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And seeing that, you know, like the Internet,
Speaker 1: that makes you definitely like not respect women. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I feel like those three things. Once
Speaker 1: you got that, once you got like discipline and like
Speaker 1: ferociousness to understand that the world this against you already,
Speaker 1: like and not being afraid of that and just willing
Speaker 1: to go conquer it, and you gotta hustle, and you
Speaker 1: got like if you respect women, ship, you've got self respect.
Speaker 1: Didn't know what I'm saying, Like, you ain't gonna let
Speaker 1: nobody disrespect you just because respect you got for like women,
Speaker 1: and then the people raised you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So I feel like you got them three man, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be good for sure. And then another thing to
Speaker 1: that I always ask people like when they're here, is
Speaker 1: if you could pick like one or two things that
Speaker 1: you've never done in your life that you want to do,
Speaker 1: like on like some bucket list type ship before you die.
Speaker 1: Like what would they be one on? For me? Probably
Speaker 1: jump off an airplane. I don't or I want to
Speaker 1: do some ship like that jump off a plane. And
Speaker 1: I'm scared of that ship though. I'm scared of it,
Speaker 1: like you're fighting your fears type ship. I'm scared of
Speaker 1: that type of ships. But I want to do it though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like even like when I
Speaker 1: see it on TV and movies and ship that should
Speaker 1: be looking fun, Why don't literally jump by the silver
Speaker 1: when they gotta let I want to jump? See that's
Speaker 1: what I want to do. Don't go right? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you ain't lying. I want to jump by myself though,
Speaker 1: after you learn how to do it. Yeah, now that
Speaker 1: would be just my luck. I do that ship thinking
Speaker 1: fun with some ship. Man, I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: ain't thinking about it like that. Yeah, now you got
Speaker 1: you gotta have a professional got to be a woman
Speaker 1: or something telling man, let me get a girl ship.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it like that? The second should I
Speaker 1: do on my bucket list? Uh, after I jump off
Speaker 1: a plane, man, it'll be like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: want to go somewhere like some monumental ship like see
Speaker 1: one of the one of the one of the Wonders
Speaker 1: of the like that. You know, like I don't really travel,
Speaker 1: like I never as long as I've still been like
Speaker 1: making money and should have been an artist, I ain't
Speaker 1: really travel only been like three countries probably that I've
Speaker 1: been in Jamaica that one time. Well I've been twice.
Speaker 1: I went with Baby Bro went to Jamaica before, I've
Speaker 1: been in Canada, and I've been h Mexico in London
Speaker 1: with Juice World. That was it. Yeah, hell yeah that
Speaker 1: ship was like then was some of the best times
Speaker 1: I hear in my life. But just doing that, I
Speaker 1: want to travel, like I ain't gonna like I want
Speaker 1: to take some time. Well I'm just traveling just me
Speaker 1: and my girl and my kids and ship, just some
Speaker 1: ship like that, you know what I'm saying. Like my family,
Speaker 1: my mom would take my mama to go do see
Speaker 1: some ship like that. That's what I really want to do,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't a lie. That's why I'd be hustling
Speaker 1: like real hard right now because I want to just
Speaker 1: take like a real year man. Not to disappoint my fans,
Speaker 1: and I'm probably gonna still put music out, but I
Speaker 1: want to just take a y'all to do whatever I
Speaker 1: want to do because I've been working too hard for
Speaker 1: too long. I've been doing this ship then in ten years,
Speaker 1: and I need to hill a little bit. Yeah, Geerbo,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, my brother, Congratulations on your new projects.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But continue final words for
Speaker 1: the Big Fact supporters, Yeah, man, for Big Facts. You know,
Speaker 1: I only I wanted to come here personally, and you know,
Speaker 1: because the ship, the ship we kick and we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk on here, I don't be able to talk about
Speaker 1: you know. So I feel like other blogs and other
Speaker 1: like not even blogs, just other podcasts and other outlets.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Media outlets, you come on,
Speaker 1: They're not gonna really like pick your brain and make
Speaker 1: you say some ship. They want to motivate or inspire
Speaker 1: somebody else, you know, exactly. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to come here so I could be
Speaker 1: able to talk about stuff from a real one, like
Speaker 1: from get a woman perspective, from Jade talking to you,
Speaker 1: scream your joke perspective, talk to big bro, because I
Speaker 1: know like big brothers like here a real nigga, he
Speaker 1: real niggas. You know what I'm saying that That's why
Speaker 1: I do it. I want to motivate the streets for real.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, to motivate anybody that's listening,
Speaker 1: even if you're not in the streets, just motivate you
Speaker 1: to want to do something. You know what I'm saying that,
Speaker 1: That's why I really wanted to come on here so
Speaker 1: I can talk about that type of That's why I
Speaker 1: said this ship the culture, bro. We need, like we
Speaker 1: need more people to come on and like talk about
Speaker 1: ship like that. That's gonna help somebody do something. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like all that other ship don't
Speaker 1: really be about nothing for real, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And and just understanding that and knowing it, and when
Speaker 1: you're seeing it from the outside looking in, you feel
Speaker 1: it and make you want to like like brick Ros
Speaker 1: just saying like man, here niggers, here this and see
Speaker 1: this would be like now here often to keep going
Speaker 1: ship herb did, Herbo did Funk all that other ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, life gonna be hard. They're gonna put like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pressure on everybody who's doing something, no
Speaker 1: matter if you're an artist or athlete, whatever you're doing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when you're leaning towards
Speaker 1: the pressure, you're gonna overcome it, you know. And I
Speaker 1: feel like you're only gonna hear ship like that on
Speaker 1: Big Facts. You aren't gonna beble to talk about ship
Speaker 1: like that on Hell. You know what I'm saying. So
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